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Speaker 2: I'm not just speaking to them.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea exactly what they tell their guys

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Speaker 2: They know what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: They're very their veteran players, they're they're they're one of

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Speaker 2: There has to be a level.

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Speaker 3: There's an incredible competitive drive and toughness like that first

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Speaker 3: And if you think that's hard, Christians thinking himself, I'll

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Speaker 2: You know. And there's still that I'm going to show

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Speaker 3: So not on is he a great a tension of tail?

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Speaker 3: He freaking works his tail off and everything every single

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Speaker 3: Christian I said, Man, we're gonna have to these guys. Man,

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Speaker 3: We'll do the best we can. But I was being positive,

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Speaker 2: He was so fired up.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I agree, coach, and you can see his

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I was just kind of giving you

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Speaker 2: So it's not it's not fake, it's legit.

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Speaker 3: It's just who he is. It oozes out of him,

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Speaker 3: talk forever about Christian McCaffrey because he's one. He's like

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Speaker 3: I said, he's almost one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: Monday night, I didn't get to watch it. I know

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Speaker 2: Who was Peyton or Christian? Of course he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because those two guys right there, there are two

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Speaker 3: it's it's outstanding. It's really cool. Did no idea, I know,

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Speaker 3: I just knew he was a good player. Carolina played

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Speaker 2: I didn't know Christian, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I coached with Denny at I coached with Denny

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was there with Jack Alway for one then that

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Speaker 3: I kept in touch with Denny and the guys that

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Speaker 2: The next year he hired me with the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, guys, appreciate it.