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Speaker 1: to advance to Super Bowl fifty six by knocking off

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Speaker 1: coming up by broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins me as

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Speaker 1: we discuss what the Bengals must do to cut down

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Speaker 1: on the sacks after surrendering nine last week. My one

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Speaker 1: done so five times in the past. Evan Washburn will

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Speaker 1: Who Day Nation rocks And speaking of lap he's up

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Speaker 1: first on this edition of the podcast. Lap On the

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Speaker 1: one hand, the Bengals just beat the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: three and a half weeks ago. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are hosting they Z Championship game for the

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Speaker 1: the Bengals as a huge underdog this week despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that they have a recent win over this opponent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think going to Arrowhead is tough, you know. I

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Speaker 1: tough place to play. Like you said, this is the

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Speaker 1: fourth straight AFC game championship game they're hosting to the

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Speaker 1: last three Super Bowls. They they've gone to their seven

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they think they had issues communicating and

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Speaker 1: But the thing is at least having experience that they

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Speaker 1: They worked all week in practice with you know, pumping

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Speaker 1: get away with doing the things that he does, and

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Speaker 1: his franchise did it. Whatever it is you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. He's just a playmaker. He's a ball player.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll look it up now. But how did

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State do when you played for the Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: he was with Texas Tech? I could say this for

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Speaker 1: all confidence. Never lost to him still, So yeah, you

434
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: gotta keep that streak alive. I gotta stay undefeated against him.

435
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: I like the way you think we're visiting with Trey Flowers.

436
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: Stanley Morgan has been dealing with a hamstring injury, and

437
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Speaker 1: last week you replaced him as the gunner in punt

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Speaker 1: coverage and made two great tackles in the second half

439
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Speaker 1: in that win in Tennessee. This job is not for everybody.

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Speaker 1: What makes a great gunner just the mindset. You gotta

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Speaker 1: prepare yourself. You know you're you're on the field, run

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Speaker 1: as fast as you can. But you're such an impact

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Speaker 1: on the game, you know. It's it's such a splash play.

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Speaker 1: If you kick, get and make a tackle, a good tackle,

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Speaker 1: it's just such a splash player. You just it's how

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Speaker 1: you approach it. A lot of people would say in

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Speaker 1: my position, you know, I was a starter and coming

448
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Speaker 1: to special teams. A lot of people wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: do it, but like I said, any row you put

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Speaker 1: in front of me, I just I just love playing football,

451
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. That was actually my first tackle

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Speaker 1: ever as a gunner, so we celebrated that, and Stan

453
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Speaker 1: was probably way more, way more lit than I was.

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Speaker 1: If you see him on the sideline, he's going crazy.

455
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: And how was Darren Simmons, Because Darren obviously sets the

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Speaker 1: bar very high, and to have you step in under

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Speaker 1: those circumstances and make two big plays, I'm sure he

458
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Speaker 1: had to be thrilled. He finally telling me good, not

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Speaker 1: just something good. So we're taking baby steps at that.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I can get another one this week. We're chatting

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Speaker 1: to trade flowers. It's not easy changing teams mid season.

462
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Speaker 1: What was the biggest challenge for you? Definitely the terminology.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got here, it's just Seattle. We're kind

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Speaker 1: of like a cover We're really they were really a

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Speaker 1: Cover three team my whole life. So when I got here,

466
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Speaker 1: it's more quarters and rolling the safeties around and knowing

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Speaker 1: where the front is and being so multiple. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you really gotta study this stuff. Did you

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Speaker 1: know any of your current teammates or coaches, or were

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Speaker 1: you like the new kid at school. I knew Jesse

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Speaker 1: just from the combine. We played safety together. Oh not together,

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Speaker 1: but we came out together. So he was always somebody

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Speaker 1: I kept up with. And I remember Rob Livingston from

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Speaker 1: the combine. That's about it. Other than that, it was

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Speaker 1: all new faces for me. Last thing for Bengals cornerback

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Speaker 1: Trey Flowers. I gotta make a statement. I want you

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Speaker 1: to react. You are one win from going to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What's your reaction when you hear that final

479
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: four and it's so doable. We just gotta go bus,

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Speaker 1: It's so doable. Make the plays in front of you, dog, stress, cool,

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Speaker 1: com and collected. We will be in a super Bowl. Trey,

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Speaker 1: You've been an outstanding acquisition. You're playing a great role

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Speaker 1: on this team right now. Congratulations on your success. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time, all right, thank you. So I did

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Speaker 1: look up the games where Trey Flowers played for Oklahoma

486
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Speaker 1: State and Patrick Mahomes played for Texas Tech. Not only

487
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Speaker 1: did the Cowboys win all three, but Trey is also

488
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Speaker 1: two and oh in the NFL against Mahomes with one

489
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Speaker 1: win in Seattle, and this year's win in Cincinnati, Flowers

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Speaker 1: teams haven't dominated on defense. Mahomes has led his team

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Speaker 1: to at least thirty one points in every matchup. But

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Speaker 1: we'll see if Tray can make it six wins in

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Speaker 1: six tries this Sunday. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented

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Speaker 1: the biggest events all season long, including Super Bowl fifty six.

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Speaker 1: Now time to get an interesting perspective on Sunday's matchup

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Speaker 1: from a guy who will be standing on the field

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City this Sunday. He was on the field

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Speaker 1: interviewing Joe Burrow moments after last week's thrilling victory in Tennessee,

501
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Speaker 1: and he'll be on the sidelines again this Sunday for CBS.

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Speaker 1: It is great to visit with Evan Washburn. Evan, you've

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Speaker 1: done games at just about every venue in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure is Arrowhead the loudest venue in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: And describe what that sound is like from the sideline.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question, Dan, and great to be with

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Speaker 1: you here. And I would say Seattle is the loudest

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Speaker 1: in the sense that there's I think it's the acoustics

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Speaker 1: of the stadium where you feel this ringing in your

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Speaker 1: ear the entire game. But Kansas City and Arrowheads specifically,

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Speaker 1: I would say when it peaks is probably the loudest.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's such a just a large space in

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Speaker 1: the way that it's constructed, kind of that old school

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Speaker 1: field where it's all inclose, where the sound does reverberate

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Speaker 1: all around. I can't imagine trying to call plays in

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Speaker 1: it or get any sense of communication from the sideline verbally.

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Speaker 1: So it's right there with Seattle for sure, and in

518
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Speaker 1: just an unbelievable atmosphere. But it's more the waves, I

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00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: would say of noise at Arrowhead and Seattle is just

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Speaker 1: one constant blast into your senses. Well, Tennessee might not

521
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Speaker 1: have been that noisy last week, but it was certainly loud.

522
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Speaker 1: The Bengals were able to handle it. You were at

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Speaker 1: field level, which stood out about the Bengals victory for

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Speaker 1: you so much. I mean, it was kind of an

525
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: odd game. I mean, you were there, you're calling it.

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Speaker 1: It didn't have the feel of what ended up being

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Speaker 1: a last second type game with the obviously the McPherson

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Speaker 1: kick to win it and really thinking, man, we might

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Speaker 1: be heading overtime here at one point. But the way

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: both teams were playing it wasn't the prettiest of games. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the sacks that the Bengals were allowing and then the

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Speaker 1: turnovers that the Titans were having. Each team was almost

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Speaker 1: trying to find a way to lose the game before

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Speaker 1: they found a way to win it. What struck me though,

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Speaker 1: from the Bengals sideline was just the calm and there

536
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: was no panic, even when Joe just kept getting hit

537
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: or they weren't moving the ball the way they liked to,

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Speaker 1: especially through the air. I just was struck by the fact,

539
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: because you're often over there looking for that moment where

540
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: it can be a galvanizing one where everyone's come together

541
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Speaker 1: to sort of figure this thing out, or that moment

542
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: of panic and frustration. There was neither. It was It

543
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: was business as usual, and I think that speaks to

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Speaker 1: the poise that this team has. At this point, we're

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Speaker 1: chatting with Evan Washburn from CBS. You've interviewed Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: after several Bengals victories this year, and I know you've

547
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Speaker 1: interacted with him before those games as well. What impresses

548
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: you most about Joe Burrow just how comfortable he is

549
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: in his own skin. For I mean a relatively young guy.

550
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Speaker 1: I know he's been on a big stage here, whether

551
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Speaker 1: it was in his time at LSU winning the Heisman

552
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Speaker 1: and all that comes with that, and then being the

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Speaker 1: number one pick. But it's been a unique couple of

554
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Speaker 1: years in terms of coverage. I mean, we're doing most

555
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Speaker 1: things on Zoom. There hasn't been as much face to

556
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Speaker 1: face when it comes to the media and the players,

557
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Speaker 1: and I think that that's for some rookies, given him,

558
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Speaker 1: you know, an insulated feel, So it's almost been easier

559
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Speaker 1: than maybe rookies in the past or young guys in

560
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: the past, and whatever scenario it's been with Joe, whether

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Speaker 1: it's like this on Zoom or in person we're doing

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Speaker 1: a interview for the NFL today or in those postgame moments,

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Speaker 1: I've always been struck by just his comfort to be

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Speaker 1: himself and be authentic and look, he's thinking about what

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Speaker 1: he's saying, because he knows he carries a lot of weight,

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Speaker 1: not just in that city and in that locker room,

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Speaker 1: but nationally. But he handles it well, and I just

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Speaker 1: appreciate what appears to be a really genuine guy. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to Sunday's matchup, beginning with Bengals defense versus

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Speaker 1: Chiefs offense. Patrick Mahomes and company. They've scored forty two

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Speaker 1: points in each of their two playoff games. How on

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Speaker 1: God's Green earths does the Bengals defense slow down Kansas

573
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: City offense? Well, I think slow down Dan's probably the

574
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: proper term. We're just kind of relatively keep in check

575
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: and it's really key moments, and I think that's what

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00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: we saw Sunday night against Buffalo. Buffalo's defense has been

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Speaker 1: fantastic all year long. Statistically, we know the best in

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Speaker 1: the league, and they played well over the course of

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Speaker 1: much of the first three quarters and a half, and

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Speaker 1: then down the stretch is when they got exposed a bit.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's really where if you're a

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Speaker 1: Bengals defense and Lui and Rumo and just that the

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00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: leaders on that side of the ball, it's it's recognizing

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Speaker 1: time and situation and when it's a pivotal third down

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00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: or a fourth down or the red zone, finding those

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Speaker 1: moments and making sure that that's where they're matching what

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's bringing in terms of their explosive nature, and

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00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: it starts with Travis Kelsey and Tyree Hill. But to

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: think you're going to completely neutralize them at this point

590
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: it is probably a fool's errand, but matching them in

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Speaker 1: those key moments, I think it is one place to start,

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Speaker 1: but it's going to be an immense challenge, and I

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00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: think there's so many ways to approach it. We've seen

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Speaker 1: different defenses, and I do think that if you force

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Speaker 1: Kansas City to be patient over the course of four quarters,

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily going to mean you hold them in check,

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Speaker 1: but at least it's death by a thousand papercuts and

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Speaker 1: not just gashing you left and right. Let's flip to

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. The Bengals scored thirty

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Speaker 1: four on the Chase back on January second, Burrow through

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Speaker 1: four touch passes, three of them to Jamar Chase. What

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Speaker 1: do you see is some of the keys for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals offense in the rematch. Well, the thing I've been

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Speaker 1: really impressed with when it comes to Cincinnati and their

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00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: approach offensively is their ability to one have a plan

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Speaker 1: but then be quick to pivot if they feel like

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00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: that's not being effective. We even saw that Saturday where

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Speaker 1: to start that third quarter, it was clear, Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: commit to the run game. Let's give Joe Mixon a

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Speaker 1: real taste here because we're just not seeing success through

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Speaker 1: the air because we can't keep these defenders off Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: So look, if you can have the same type of

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Speaker 1: success with Jamar Chase, then absolutely, I would think that

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Speaker 1: that would be priority number one. But it's going to

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Speaker 1: be priority number one defensively for Kansas City. So to me,

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Speaker 1: it's not so much what the initial plan is, it's

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Speaker 1: what's planned B and c. And that's what's really impressed

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Speaker 1: me about Brian Callahan, Zach Taylor, and Joe coming together

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Speaker 1: and never sensing to have any sort of panic when

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Speaker 1: they're forced to adjust, whether it be in the first

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Speaker 1: quarter or in the second half. I'm not sure anybody

622
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Speaker 1: honestly expected the Bengals this year to be one win

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Speaker 1: away from the Super Bowl. Do you see this as

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Speaker 1: the start of something special in Cincinnati? Absolutely. I don't

625
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: see why you wouldn't because it's not necessarily I mean,

626
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Speaker 1: we're seeing it a little bit right now with Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what they did last year was unbelievable. It

628
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: was Hollywood. Like, you bring in Tom Brady, you bring

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Speaker 1: in a bunch of pieces that he wants that fit in,

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Speaker 1: the defense does what it does, and you win a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and anyone would take that. But those are

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00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: not sustainable, whether it be due to contract age, where

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00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: a player is in their career. When you look at

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Speaker 1: what Cincinnati has, I mean, it's an incredibly young team. Defensively,

635
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: you've already locked up, whether it be contract actually or otherwise,

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00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: some of your anchors. And then offensively you've got all

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00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: these young guys on rookie deals. So there's no reason why,

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00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: at least for the next let's say three to four years,

639
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: you can't keep this group together. And then the staff

640
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: has some real continuity. I know, the assistance and coordinators

641
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: starting to get some head coaching looks, but Zach Taylor,

642
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: to me, has complete command on what he wants on

643
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: that staff. So absolutely, this to me is that the

644
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: picture of sustainability at least in that I would say

645
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: three to five year window, because anything beyond that in

646
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: the NFL is probably not achievable. Just the way that

647
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: the rules are constructed As I mentioned off the top,

648
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: you interviewed Joe moments after the victory last week. I

649
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: hope you are doing the same thing this coming Sunday. Even.

650
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Have a great game this weekend. Yeah,

651
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: you too, and congrats on the run. I've really enjoyed

652
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: covering this team and look forward to doing again on Sunday.

653
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: Even will be one of three sideline reporters for EBS

654
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday with Jim Nanson Tony Romo in the broadcast booth. Finally,

655
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: it's time for this week's No the Faux segment. Adam Tisher,

656
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: who covers the Chiefs or ESPN, joined lapping me this

657
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: week on the Bengals Game Plan Show. One of the

658
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: things that interests me about this matchup is what the

659
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs will do after having so much trouble defending Jamar

660
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: Chase in the first meeting back on January second. Obviously

661
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: they're going to make changes. Do you think it'll be

662
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: major changes or will the Chiefs basically do what they

663
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: do with some minor adjustments. I think they'll they'll change

664
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: significantly what they did because obviously it didn't work. You know,

665
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: that was one of the best wide receiver games in

666
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, So they got to do

667
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: something different. I suspect it will be different. You know,

668
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's instructive to look at what happened the Chiefs

669
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: did against the Bills the other day. They they really

670
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: shut down Stefan Diggs. He was not productive at all

671
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: in the game. And yet you know, the Bills had

672
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: just too much for the Chiefs to to keep down.

673
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: And so Gabriel Davis had the two hundred yard game

674
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: and a bunch of four touchdowns. So, um, you know, hey,

675
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs shut down Chase, you know Stee Higgins

676
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: going to go off or Boyd or you know, Joe Mixon.

677
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe you know, the Chiefs are

678
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: just not capable of keeping it all down and the

679
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: way they like. So I'm gonna be interesting to see

680
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: what they do. But I gotta believe they're gonna change

681
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: tactics quite a bit. On the flip side of it,

682
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: um Hill and Kelsey combined for eleven catches, which is

683
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: a number that Chase had at him, but they had

684
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: two hundred and one fewer yards when they only combined

685
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: for sixty five yards and Chase had two sixty six.

686
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: So the Bengals were able to hold down both of

687
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: those guys, which surprised me. I thought, maybe, you know,

688
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: control one, but control both. And they had no receiver

689
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: game more than the fifty three yards that Harteman had

690
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: on that one big play that he had had a

691
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: fifty three yards reception. What are the coaches? What was

692
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: their comment or what was their reaction to the way

693
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals handled that passing attack in the first matchup. Yeah,

694
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: it was kind of an interesting game that the Chiefs

695
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: had that day, So particularly in the second half, Bengals

696
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: did a really nice job not shutting down just those

697
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: two guys, but everybody. Really. The Chiefs really had nothing

698
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: going offensively in the second half, So you know, I

699
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: did do The Chiefs will make their adjustments and do

700
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: what they're going to try to do. Hard to predict,

701
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: you know what the Chiefs soil will do differently. I mean,

702
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm not in on their coaching meetings, but they'll they'll

703
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: try to figure some things out for sure. Yeah. Adam

704
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: TiSER from ESPN is our guest. Not much as being

705
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: made of this here in Cincinnati for obvious reasons, but

706
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: penalties were a major factor in the bengals favor in

707
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: that first meeting. They were the pass interference penalties. At

708
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: the end of the game in the end zone, there

709
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: was a penalty on a kickoff return touchdown that got

710
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: wiped out. Is it the Chiefs feeling and I'm not

711
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: saying that they thought the calls were bad calls or

712
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: anything like that, but is it their feeling that if

713
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: they eliminate the mistakes, they're the better team and they

714
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: win the game. Well, I mean, yeah, they were. They

715
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: were certainly weren't happy with the refereeing. Andy Reid was

716
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: pretty clear about that after the game. He was pretty

717
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: clear that he thought some of those calls, at least

718
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: on their defensive backs were not very good ones. So, um,

719
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: but I know the Bengals were unhappy with some things

720
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: that day in terms of the refereeing as well. So

721
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: that thing, that stuff tends to even out. But you know, hey,

722
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: you know the one play that you know really kind

723
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: of well, there were there were a few of them,

724
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: but one of the players that really seemed to determine

725
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: that game was that when the Chiefs had that kickoff

726
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: return called back, and they were not happy with that

727
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: um penalty as well. So hey. But you know the Chiefs,

728
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: particularly on defense, they use their hands a lot. I mean,

729
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: maybe that's kind of what they do. They're um, you know,

730
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: they they get penalty. They have games like that at

731
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: from time to time because, uh, you know, the type

732
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: of coverage they have. They play a lot of press

733
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: and guys need to use their hands and they get

734
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: caught in the cookie jars sometimes. So who's to say

735
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: that won't be it, there won't be a game for them,

736
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: uh like that this weekend. I mean, they avoided those

737
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: kinds of penalties for the most part against the Bills,

738
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: but maybe they're due. You know when you when you

739
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: look at it, the uh the Chiefs, they've run the

740
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: ball decently. I mean people kind of sleep on their

741
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: running game, and that that's what they got untracked against

742
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals. The Bengks that you have to give up

743
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: something if you're gonna play coverage like they did against

744
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: all those great receivers. And the Chiefs rush for one

745
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five yards averaging six point seven per

746
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: and rush for a couple of touchdowns. In the playoffs,

747
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: they're killing people, you know. In the two games they've

748
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: got one hundred and forty four yards, rushing to the

749
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: opposition eighty two and a half plus sixty one and

750
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: a half yards, and they're averaging five point nine and

751
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: rush to the opponents three point eight plus two point one.

752
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: So you can't fall asleep on their running game as well, right, Well, yeah,

753
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, particularly if teams are going to

754
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: play two deep safeties, just insist on that, and she's

755
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: going to run the ball some and probably have some success.

756
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: And that's what certainly what the Bills did. And the

757
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: other thing you can't ignore is that Pat Mahomes role

758
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: in all this. I mean, he did a nice job,

759
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: particularly last week against the Bills, but he does it

760
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: generally a nice job of picking and choosing his spots

761
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I mean, none of these called runs,

762
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: but he'll scramble out and get your big play and

763
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: did that number of times against the Bills, So you know,

764
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: that's part of their rushing stats obviously as well. So

765
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: that's something that the Bengals have to look for this

766
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: time around. We're visiting with Adam Tisher from ESPN, who

767
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: covers the Chiefs. I'm always interested in kind of a

768
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: big storyline in the opposing city before a game of

769
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: this magnitude. What are a couple of kind of the

770
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: big themes that that you are looking at and Chiefs

771
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: fans are talking about with the Bengals coming to town

772
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Well, maybe to me, it's maybe more than

773
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: some of the intangible stuff. You know, the Chiefs had

774
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: to dig real deep. They had to dig very deep,

775
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: um to beat the Bills. I mean that game was

776
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: intense from start. It wasn't just intense at the end.

777
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: It was just intense all game long. And uh so

778
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: what kind of can they come back with that, you know,

779
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: a similar energy this week? You know, I wonder about that.

780
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, they they've been pretty good under Andy Reid

781
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: generally speaking, and you know, having their mind on the

782
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: task at hand each week and and and coming out

783
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: and giving an honest effort every week. Um, but they've

784
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: never had to dig this deep. I don't think, you know,

785
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: to win a game. So you know, hey, hey, can

786
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: they can they muster up what it's going to take

787
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: for another game like that again this week? And with

788
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: the Bengals, I sort of wonder a little bit about,

789
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, what the stage is going to be like

790
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: for them? You know, the Chiefs are the veterans in

791
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: this scenario, and they've done it before and they've been

792
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: there and know what this is all about, and the

793
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Bengals don't. And um so I wonder about that a

794
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Although it looks like to me Joe Burrow

795
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: is kind of one of those guys who has it

796
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: figured out, you know that he u the rest of

797
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: the team's going to follow him and and follow his lead.

798
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: And he's not the guy I'm necessarily worried about for

799
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals in that regard. So, just just a couple

800
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: of intangible things that may or may not have a

801
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: fact a role in Sunday Sunday's game. Yeah, I guess

802
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: the old adage sometimes it's good that guys don't know

803
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: what they don't know. We'll find out because I'll tell

804
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: you what experience. I think playoff experience counts. You know,

805
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: I remember the first playoff game I played in and

806
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: not knowing what I you know, you don't know what

807
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: you don't know, and I know it was a lot

808
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: better in the second and third playoff game I played

809
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: in after after experiencing it the first time. But what

810
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: about Matthew, do you think Tyron Matthew, you didn't practice

811
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: today with the concussion. Have you heard anything about you know,

812
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: every every player tolerates concussions differently. Have you heard anything

813
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: about the severity of the concussion and how Tyron Matthew

814
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: is tolerating that concussion. Yeah, the Chiefs seem to be

815
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: encouraged that he's going to be able to play on Sunday,

816
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean they sometimes you hear these

817
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: things that it turned out to be wrong, but they

818
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: seem to be encouraged that he's going to play on Sunday,

819
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I mean, you know, he's a guy

820
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: who keeps his head in the playbook no matter whether

821
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: he's practicing or not. So I feel like he would

822
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: be okay if there's going to be a case where

823
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs would be okay playing a guy who didn't

824
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: practice all week as long as he's cleared by Sunday.

825
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs would play him on Sunday again

826
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: as long as he's cleared, even if he doesn't practice.

827
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, they still have a couple of practice days

828
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: left this week, so we'll we'll see. But my sense

829
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: is right now that he's going to be ready to go, Adam.

830
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: My final question is a simple one about Patrick Mahomes.

831
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: You've been watching him and covering him for a few

832
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: years now. What impresses you most about Patrick MAHOMESH just

833
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: there's no um, there's no situation that seems to get

834
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: him flustered. You know. He he just seems to um

835
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: find a way out of a tough situation, no matter what,

836
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: whether it's with a no look throw or or a

837
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: sidearm throw, or or a jump pass that he had

838
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: to throw a touchdown pass and a jump pass the

839
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: other night. Um, you know it just his resourcefulness. I

840
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: guess to answer the question, he just seems to have

841
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: a almost always have a h an answer for everything,

842
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: and that that's kind of it's you don't see that

843
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: with guys who are as young as he is. It's

844
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: really been remarkable. He's it's like he came into the

845
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: league like a ten year veteran. It really is. I mean,

846
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: it's just just uh there there really hasn't been to

847
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: wasn't any growing or learning curve for him. He just

848
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: came out first gamey three three touchdown passes, his second

849
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: game in three six touchdown passes, and you know, while

850
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the numbers haven't been quite like that for the most

851
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: part lately, he still he still got it for sure.

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Speaker 1: My final question is always on the all important and

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Speaker 1: third phase of things that des get mentioned, special teams.

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Speaker 1: Dave Tobb like the Bengals Darren Simmons, same title, Uh,

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, assistant head coach. These guys are valuable guys,

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Speaker 1: top special teams. His punt return team third in the

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Speaker 1: NFL IS punt coverage team, first in the NFL IS

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Speaker 1: kickoff return team, ninth in the nfl IS kickoff coverage team,

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Speaker 1: fifth in the NFL all of them, top ten, three

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Speaker 1: of them, top five the hidden yards. How big a deal?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's something to talk about, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. The Chiefs, dude, generally speaking, a nice job

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Speaker 1: on special teams. You know, they pretty solid from week

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Speaker 1: to week. It's it's really remarkable how they've they've they've

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Speaker 1: managed that over the years since any Reids been their coach.

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Speaker 1: And Dave Tobe does a nice job, you know, coaching

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Speaker 1: the guys. So yeah, it is, Uh, it could be

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Speaker 1: a factor because you know, the Chiefs do a nice

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Speaker 1: job on special teams. And and I'm not just talking

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Speaker 1: about necessarily big plays. I'm just talking about just just

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Speaker 1: being solid across the board and so, but it's something

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Speaker 1: to look for on Sunday for sure. Thanks to Adam

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