1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by the one and only 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Wes Hodkuitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. The subject on everybody's mind 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: now a couple of days removed from the great comeback 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: over the Bears is what is the status of Aaron Rodgers. 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: And in this segment we'll call the Aaron Rodgers Update, 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: it's actually the Aaron Rodgers non update because Mike McCarthy 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: on Monday didn't have all the injury information. They're still 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly what the situation is with 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Rogers and that knee. So it's going to be a 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: wait and see type of thing all week long the 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: way it sounds, Yeah, and we'll we'll get a better 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: feel for how Rogers is feeling. I'm guessing on Wednesday, 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: that's typically been the data in the regular season, which 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: he addresses the media. Uh, and we'll see what his 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: participation is going to be. Like Mike McCarthy mentioned, you know, 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser, probably regardless of what however, Sunday and Folds 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: will probably take a lot of work this week, take 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: a lot of reps. Maybe some of that trickles down 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: to Tim Boyle as well. We'll see. But that being said, 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: it seems to me, Mike everybody obviously wants to rush 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: to conclusions. They want to know everything now the minute 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: that they want to know it. The one thing I 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: would caution people to do because I saw some people 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: taking what McCarthy had said on Monday, and you know, 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: saying this is a red flag. If you know anything 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy the way he handles this thing. He's 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: not giving injury report on Monday. So regardless of how 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: this week plays out or whether or not Rogers plays 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday, it's not going to be based upon the 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: information that Mike McCarthy has on Monday, the day after 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the game. It's gonna be after seeing where this whole 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: week takes them. Certainly, Rodgers made his voice known after 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: the game he fully intends to play against Minnesota, but 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: there certainly is a bigger picture in play as well. 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: I think the biggest positive you can draw from this 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: is the fact that he did finish that game and 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: he was able to run back out on the field. 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: That at least I would hope you would think would 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: alleviate some of the long term concerns. But certainly it's 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: about making sure that Aaron Rodgers is healthy for a 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: full fifteen weeks the rest of the season. Yeah, and 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to put the card before the horse here, 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: but this is kind of looking to me like one 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: of those weeks where the quarterback may not practice at all, 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: or if he practices, it could be very little, and 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: then the Packers will just decide as things get close 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: to game time whether or not he goes. There was 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: an incident, a similar incidence, I meant to say, back 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, his first year as a starter, 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: he had a shoulder injury. Packers had the Atlanta Falcons 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: coming here to lambeau Field. Rogers really didn't practice during 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: the week, and they took him down to the Hudson 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Center on Sunday morning before they needed to make the 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: final decision as to whether he would be active or 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: inactive for the game. They had him throw some asses 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, you know, good to go. Now. 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: The Packers ended up not winning that game. It was 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: a close game. Whatever. It was ten years ago, but 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: but even back then, Aaron Rodgers went out and gave 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: his team a chance to win when he didn't even 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: practice right, And if correct me, if I'm wrong, Mike, 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: was he doubtful for that game? I'm trying to remember. 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I feel like his designation might have even been doubtful 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: because I think that's one of only like two instances 67 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: over the last you know, ten twelve years where that's 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: actually happened where he guys played after that designation. Be 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: that as it may. Uh, Yeah, Rogers is gonna do 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: whatever he can to be out there. Certainly, we know this. 71 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: It's well documented. He's the most competitive player in that 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: locker room, if not the planet. So he's gonna want 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to be there. He's gonna want to rally the troops 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: like he did in the second half. But again, there 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: is a big, bigger picture in play, and when they 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: go through Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and even into that final 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: practice on Saturday, and the things the Packers do to 78 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: get ready for game time, those are all factors are 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: going to have to take an account before they get 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: to you know, Sunday afternoon. 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A couple of things left 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: over somewhat from the discussion of Sunday Night's big victory 92 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: by the Packers. There's been a lot of talk, obviously 93 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: of Clay Matthews roughing the passer call on the initial 94 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: fourth down when the Bears were trailing there by a 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: point late in the game. He's taken responsibility for it. 96 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: He knows he shouldn't have done it. Um, Mike McCarthy said, hey, 97 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: we have to be smarter there. Everybody knows it was 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: it was a bad play. The larger concern from my standpoint, 99 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: is that the Packers had three roughing the passer penalties 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: in this game. Now, I thought the one on mat Views. 101 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: Even though Clay said after the game he thought, well, 102 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: maybe in past years that's a warning they're flagging it. 103 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: This year, I thought his quite frankly, was pretty obvious. 104 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: The ones that were called on Wilkerson and Perry earlier 105 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: in the game, especially the one on Wilkerson, to me, 106 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: I thought was really really questionable. I I I'm telling 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: you Wes that, you know, we talked a lot about 108 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: the helmet rule and all this other kind of stuff 109 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: and the flags that were flying in the preseason. If 110 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: those types of plays like Wilkerson had, if those are 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: going to be called roughing the passer all season long 112 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL, Boy, these pass rushers, they they better 113 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: be on their toes. You really have to watch out 114 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: because those fifteen yard penalties are costly. They are, and 115 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: it is it's it's a tough situation to be in because, 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, we even mentioned, you know, on 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: yesterday's show, the percentages of you know how a drive 118 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: and the likelihood of scoring increases exponentially if you end 119 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: up having a giving up a personal foul on a play. 120 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: It's like an expulsive play. It's it's fifteen yards, it's 121 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: an ad matic first down. It's it's it's a big 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: time shift. So this is where I've obviously, you know, 123 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: taken some caution going into the season because you just 124 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: aren't quite sure exactly how sensitive we're going to get 125 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and being able to protect them. Certainly, as 126 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: I've talked about ad nauseum at the end of last season, 127 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, I always felt the Anthony Barr hit, those 128 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: are things you want to take out just because there's 129 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: no reason for a quarterback to get hit like that, 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: there's no reason to drive them to the turf. But 131 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately that as I've said from all along, it's either 132 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: black or white. It seems like a lot with these 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: these rules, there's never room for interpretation, there's never gray area. 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: So I don't understand why it's so difficult trying to 135 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: take something that's just as blatant as like the Davante 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Adams hit last year from Danny Trevathan and trying to 137 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: eliminate that without grouping a bunch of other penalties into that. Now, 138 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: that's a really good point, that is, and I think, 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: what's I think what's going on here, at least what 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: what I what I think should be going on. But 141 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: what seems to be going on in terms of carrying 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: a little too far is I think the standard in 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: some ways that the officials are using with all these 144 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: calls is was the contact avoidable? Because yeah, could Mohammed 145 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Wilkerson have avoided hitting the quarterback there? Yeah he could 146 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: have been it hit it very hard, you know. And 147 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: I thought same thing with Perry to a certain extent. 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: But again, if that's if that's the standard standard you're using, 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people are asking, well, why 150 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: wasn't the putting the body weight on the quarterback flag 151 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: when Rogers got hurt? I think that. I think the collision, 152 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: everything that happened on that play was was you know, 153 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: so awkward to an extent that the officials didn't think 154 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: it was avoidable. So I can understand that being the standard, 155 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: But I totally get what you're saying as well, that 156 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: it's it's grouping in a lot of other calls that 157 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: just because it was avoidable, Well, does it really need 158 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: to be a fifteen yard penalty? Yeah? And here's here's 159 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the other issue I have with it. My can and 160 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: and I understand what the leak's trying to do. You 161 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: don't want anyone to get hurt in terms of quarterback 162 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: play if it's unnecessary. But my big is the reason 163 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: I always bring up the bar thing, and it's certainly 164 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: because I don't have as much examples to look at 165 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: the entire NFL. There was some of them, I know, 166 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: uh in these last week and across the NFL. Wasn't 167 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: just in this Green Bay game. But I still think 168 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: there's a difference between driving your body on a sack 169 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: and doing it to a quarterback once the ball has 170 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: left his hand. And and I get that technically it's 171 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in a precarious situation, but one seems over 172 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: exaggerated to me than another one that could just be 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: a football play and a guy playing to the whistle. 174 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Because as we know, Mike from you know right now 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: the last ten years, the window for a defensive player 176 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: to hit a quarterback it's getting smaller and smaller. You 177 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: can't go too low, you can't go too high pad 178 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: through it exactly. I mean, you basically just have the 179 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: abdomen area to go after. So you know just as 180 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: well as I do, if you're going after the meat 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: of a human being because of that being basically their 182 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: core and their center of gravity. You're putting in a 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: little more forced than you would if you're trying to 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: get him at the legs or going higher on them. 185 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a really tough pickle. The lead's 186 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: gonna be be in this year because it looks like 187 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: we're not going to get any answers until afterwards. I 188 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: guess if you're Mike Petton, you know, Jerry Montgomery and 189 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: these defensive coaches, you just got to teach the right 190 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: technique and keep your fingers crossed the refs, you know, 191 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: don't throw the flag. I feel for defenders a little 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: bit in these situations because how silly is a defender 193 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna look if he's bearing down on the quarterback and 194 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: that quarterback pump fakes like Aaron Rodgers has done many times, 195 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of quarterbacks do that quarterback pump fakes, 196 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: And so the guy pulls up thinking, well, if he's 197 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball, I'm gonna get flagged. But 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: then it's a pump fake and he tucks the ball 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: and runs and takes off and then you missed the 200 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: second didn't even get any contact on him at all. 201 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: That that's the position that defensive players are in because 202 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: they don't know if the quarterback is going to throw 203 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: the ball or not. And um when to me anyway, 204 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: at least when contact after the throw, I thought the 205 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: Matthews one should have been flagged. But if the contact 206 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: after the throw is not egregious, I think you just 207 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: I think you just have to say, Okay, he wasn't 208 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: trying to hurt him. He wasn't trying to do anything. Yeah, 209 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: there was some contact, but let's just play out. Yeah, 210 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that's tough because it is it's it's sort of that 211 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: where you draw the line there, and certainly he didn't 212 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: drive through his back or anything when he saw the 213 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: ball go out. But at the same time, if you're 214 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: in that position, the ball is gone. You just got 215 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: to try to let up. The analogy I keep using 216 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: when I talk to some of my friends and also 217 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: some other reporters about this is not necessarily the Matthews one, 218 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: but some of these other, you know, issues that guys 219 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: are running into. To me, it's almost like you're driving 220 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: on the highway and you don't know where the stop 221 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: sign is gonna get put up, and trying to get 222 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: that automobile to stop because dude, this game is played 223 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: at a thousand miles per hour. These guys, some guys 224 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: on a given week, they're playing for their jobs, they're 225 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: playing for their careers, they're playing for a role in 226 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: the defense. They're gonna play hard. So it's just trying 227 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: to fix as equal dollars in those contracts. That the 228 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: bottom line. So, I mean that's the challenge. And you know, 229 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna have a huge sample size after 230 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: this year to go off of and we'll see what 231 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: they determine. Yeah, well, anytime you have a big comeback 232 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: victory like the Packers had, there are unsung heroes along 233 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: the way. And we got a little bit of a 234 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: hint at who one of those unsung heroes might have 235 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: been for the Packers on Sunday Night, especially on the 236 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and that's the young safety 237 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: Kentroll Bryce Mike McCarthy. Without necessarily being prompted, per Se 238 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: said that Bryce was one of the defensive players who 239 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: graded out the highest when the coaches graded the film. Uh, 240 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: you know they they they basically score every play on 241 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: different things technique, assignment, you know, execution, result, all those 242 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: kinds of things and Kentroll Bryce graded out awfully high. 243 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: A very good sign for the Packers here because you 244 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: didn't really know necessarily going into the season, him coming 245 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: off of the injury from the year before, Josh Jones, 246 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: being a young guy, still trying to find his way, 247 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: what the Packers were going to do at that's lot um. 248 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Bryce turned in a pretty good ball game. Here's what 249 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: I love about Kentroll Brice too. He has if if 250 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: he ever had a chance to deal with him or 251 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: talk with him, he has a really cool personality in 252 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: terms of like you can tell why he probably fit 253 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: in it like Louisiana Tech or somebody schools that aren't 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: like big FPS schools, because he just is sort of 255 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: this I'd like to do my job and then I'd 256 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: like to leave. And it's not that he doesn't want 257 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: to do interviews. But what was interesting is he was 258 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: aware of what McCarthy said at the podium and saying 259 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: he was a top graded defensive player, and there was 260 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: this horde of media that we're talking to two Sean 261 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Kaiser in the locker room and Bryce goes to his 262 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: locker changes and tries to sneak through the back door 263 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: and myself and Jason will the end up stopping him. 264 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: As much as he appreciated the praise, the way that 265 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: he's wired, he would have been just fine going about 266 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: his day and I'll see on Wednesday and we'll start 267 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: for week two. But that's not the world we live in, 268 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: and he understands that. And I think, you know, there 269 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: is a lot of emotion evolved in this though for him, 270 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: he did injure his ankle last year, he did see 271 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: his season end, and then he suffered another injury in 272 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: training camp that he got carted off for and luckily 273 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: for him, was able to avoid a significant um you know, 274 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: kind of a you know, I don't want to call 275 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: it a relapse or an aggravation, but whatever the case, 276 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: may be a scare. And not only was he able 277 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: to go out there and start play every single defensive snap, 278 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: all seventy of them. If you watch the game, kentroll, 279 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: Bryce played pretty well. I mentioned that an unscripted on Monday, 280 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: even before McCarthy talked about this. He just was really consistent, Mike, 281 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: and he's such a big hitter, and that's the reason 282 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: why I think a lot of people he's gotten on 283 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: their radars. But Kentroll Bryce knows, as we just talked 284 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: about in this last segment, that can't be your game anymore. 285 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: You have to evolve. You can be aggressive, you can 286 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: be assertive, but you have to play within your discipline 287 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: and your technique. I thought he did a terrific job 288 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: of that in this game. And if he keeps putting 289 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: performances together like that where he's in that center field position, 290 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: allowing Clinton Dicks to roam a little more. Clinton Dick 291 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: said it, this group could be special and Kentroll Bryce 292 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: is a big part of that. Yeah. Well, the thing 293 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: that stood out to me when he came on the 294 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: scene as an undrafted rookie, aside from obviously the big 295 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: hits when he was getting in the games, but his 296 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: speed was very, very impressive. Now, it's only been one game, 297 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: it's only been one game so far this season, but 298 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: if that ankle injury and the subsequent surgery and everything 299 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: he had to go through last year to get back 300 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: this year, if that hasn't compromised his speed at all, 301 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: We'll see, because he's going to be tested by some 302 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: other guys in this league aside from just the Bears. 303 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: But if that speed of his hasn't been compromised at 304 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: all because of what he went through injury wise. That's 305 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: a heck of a good sign for him and and 306 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: this Packers defense. I remember talking to Xavier Woods, who 307 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: was his basically his running mate at Louisiana Tech, at 308 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Combine in two thousand seventeen, and I had 309 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: him by myself and we were and I was taught, 310 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: asking him about Bryce, and you know, he almost talked 311 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: with this sort of the smile the entire time, because 312 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, Bryce really he'd been sort of a situational guy, 313 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: played on special teams, one of five guys to make 314 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the rosters, an undrafted rookie, but people really didn't know 315 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: much about him in Woods sort of had this mentality. 316 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: And I don't remember all the quotes he gave me 317 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: on the top, but he just said, you know, they 318 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: don't people really don't understand how good this guy can 319 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: be in terms of just you know, he's more than 320 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: just a hitter. There's more to his game. And it 321 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons why those two were so 322 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: successful together. And now Woods is having success. I believe 323 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: in Dallas in the NFL, Bryce has all the intangibles 324 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you look. For sure, he wasn't a top of the 325 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: radar prospect, but he was right from the get go 326 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: pretty much seen as one of the gems of that 327 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent class. And and certainly him being able 328 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: to step into those huge shoes of Morgan Burnett at 329 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: safety next to ha Clinton Dicks, and the fact that 330 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: kind of like Geronimo Allison a little bit going into 331 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Alison's number three spot there. He didn't really leave 332 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: much doubt throughout the offseason program. He showed that he's 333 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: a guy that he's not just a dime coverage, you know, 334 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: safety like he was last year. He's a guy that 335 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: could play all three downs. Yeah, and it was great 336 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: to see him come back so quickly from that training 337 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: camp injury, which at the time you're looking at it going, 338 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: oh boy, it's gonna be another injury, you know, significant 339 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: injury for kentro Bryce turned out not to be honest 340 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: with you, Mike, I obviously, David tr you got carted 341 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: off too during family Night, turned out to be fine 342 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: with the ankle. In my seven years, I don't remember 343 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: too many instances where player has been carted off the 344 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: field and he ends up being able to come back 345 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: in about a week. Sometimes it isn't surgical, sometimes it 346 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: isn't season ending. But very rarely is it something where 347 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, he's back out at the practice field. 348 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark last year. Maybe it was one example, the 349 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: hily miss. Yeah, that might have been the all timer. 350 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Does that look like that? Looked? Josh Boyd bad like 351 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: significant injury end of the year into the off season, 352 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: and Clark ended up being fine. Fortunately, Packers keep counting 353 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: their lucky stars there. All right, let's hope um quickly 354 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: before we go, um, just an update on worth things stand. 355 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: In the NFC North Monday Night football, the Detroit Lions 356 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: take one on the Chin and Matt Patricia's head coaching debut. 357 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: They start the game with a pick six. Sam Donald's 358 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: first NFL path goes the wrong direction. But after that, 359 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: the young rookie from the New York Jets dominated that 360 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: football game in a lot of ways, and the Jets 361 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: in big so. The Lions and Bears both oh and one, 362 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: the Packers and Vikings both one and oh and Week 363 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: two Packers Vikings at lambeau Field. It's the the early 364 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: shot at the driver's seat. I guess you say it was, 365 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and that was really something to see Stafford 366 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: struggle the way he did against the Jets defense. It 367 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: was four interceptions, forty seven point nine passer rating in 368 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: that contest. But this, let's be honest, Mike, regardless of 369 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, I think everybody is sort of you know, earmarked, 370 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: the Packers and Vikings as far as the krumdalea creme 371 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: in this division at least going into the season. And 372 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: and again I said an inbox last week, I never 373 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: view any Week one game is like a season defining game. 374 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: I still don't because so much can happen. But the 375 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: Packers do have a lot of momentum going into this. Again, 376 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: we have to see how Aaron Rodgers does, but how 377 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: he is with his prognosis. But that's a huge leap 378 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: being able to come back. Emotionally, we know it's a 379 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: game of swings. Things can turn at any single moment. 380 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: That that is going to be a huge contest at 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Even though the Airs Sunday Night Football a 382 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: hundred season was a big game, this is one that 383 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: does have implications down the line because it's very rare 384 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: that you get to division games at home to start 385 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: the season. I'm sure the Packers will be ready for it. 386 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: It's only gonna be one team in the NFC North too. 387 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: And oh after two weeks and it's the winner at 388 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Lambeufield on Sunday afternoon. So with that we'll call it 389 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 390 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team all 391 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: week long on Packers dot com on Twitter, He's at 392 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: west hot I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the 393 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, See you next time.