WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 012321 ft. Ramses Ja, Q. Ward & Atllas 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.480 Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. I'my host Ramsy's job. 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.640 They called me q Warden. That just so happens to 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:12.200 be my actual name, Ramses. What's up whatever? Everything, Big week. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:13.320 Massive week. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:14.320 We made it. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.200 Oh man, I know he was worried for a while. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.280 I was waiting to exhale. Yeah, man, Like like Angela Bassett, 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:25.320 I was waiting. 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:29.480 Oh man, so uh yeah man. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:30.960 Uh. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:39.360 The inauguration of America's forty sixth president along with the 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.000 star of the show the first there was multiple stars. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.120 Well you know the main star I'm talking about Kamala Harris. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.720 Ok. Yeah, because our former first Lady was a star 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.560 as well. Oh yeah, she saw she was doing. I 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.240 don't know if you saw what she was doing, but 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:56.680 she was a star as well. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.120 Yeah yeah, absolutely, So you know, uh, I definitely want 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:07.520 to uh shout out a couple of people just because 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.440 they work really hard to make it happen, and I 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.920 know they're listening to us today. So I wanted to say, 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:18.160 uh congratulations to uh doctor Kimilla Westenberg. I want to 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:25.199 say congratulations to Janelle Wood. Those two, you know, first 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.160 and foremost, because they work really hard out in the 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.119 streets along with everyone else. But those are close friends 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.160 of the show that we're really concerned about, you know, 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.360 the inauguration taking place and everything, and they work really 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.959 hard to see that coming to fruition. So your efforts 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:45.319 are appreciated by us younger folks, and we appreciate you 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:50.960 and thank you so much. But in the studio we 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.480 have a very special guest. Now I'm gonna tell a 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.280 little story here. So, as many of you know, our 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.080 show is based in Phoenix, and we live in Phoenix. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.360 And for those of you that have followed my story 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.720 for any length of time, you know that you know 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:14.200 I started in radio in two thousand and five. Well, 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.840 once upon a time there was a friend of mine. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:24.960 His name was Bootleg keV. What was Iskev? You feel me? So, Kevin? 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.560 I met keV when he was three years old. I 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.440 was seven. So we grew up together. That's my little 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.720 brother forever. And once upon a time we came across 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:40.520 a CD, right, and this CD was by a guy 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.959 named Atlas, and the name of the song was called 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:50.760 Hood Famous. Now, the reason that that stood out to 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:55.080 Kevin Bootleg keV at the time, he might have been thirteen, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.280 maybe twelve thirteen somewhere. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:56.480 Now. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.760 The reason he loved that city so much is because 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:09.280 that CD represented an independent album, you know, or single. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:13.120 I think we I had a single, but it was independent. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.840 It was independent music being pressed on the streets of Phoenix, Arizona. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.399 Kevin loved he turned me onto it, and the song 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.600 was Dope wod famous. I still I still know the melody, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:28.760 I still know bars. So that getting getting our hands 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.919 on that piece of music really inspired me and Kevin 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.080 to really make a go at the music industry and 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.760 hopefully one day having music pay our bills, which is 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.400 how we ended up getting into radio and getting up 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.000 into DJing and so forth. But you know, that was 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.480 kind of part of the nexus, was coming across that CD. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:54.040 So the man behind that that music, Atlas, you know, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.560 as these things go, he ended up becoming a real 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.400 good friend of mine and becoming a real good friend 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.440 of Civics. So this is, you know, maybe we're knocking 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:10.360 on twenty years later, right. The thing is, Atlas, you know, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.040 grew up as we all we all have, and Atlas 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:19.080 had a little boy, and Atlas's little boy is making 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.040 noise too, and we are very very fortunate to have 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.200 Atlas's son, not. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.279 A little boy, any not at all, any man. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.360 But Atlas's son is with us in the studio, and 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.760 his name is Atlas. How you doing, brother? Doing you? 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.480 I'm great man? They got that powerful voice. Listen all right, man, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.919 I like that. And you're not just in here to 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.360 hang out with us. You're in here for a very 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.479 special reason because well, first I want to talk about 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.560 your dad because I think that helps frame sort of 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.680 what you're doing. Okay, so I know your dad is 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.760 really into education. Obviously, the Million Dollar Teacher Project is 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.760 one of the sponsors for Civic Cipher. Not only that, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:09.800 Atlas is very influential when it comes to the black agenda. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.719 He's a he's a very powerful voice in at least 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.200 in the city where we live. But now that he 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.600 has a national stage with a million Dollar Teacher Project, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:23.280 his voice carries even further. And he absolutely is motivated 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.520 to see obviously, you know, a better world for all people. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.320 But you know, he, like many of us and many 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.960 people listening to my voice right now, recognize that there's 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:39.679 there are special issues and and there are more there's 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.960 more immediate threats if you will or or hindrances to 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:48.640 progress that are present in the black community. So growing 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:53.520 up with a father like that, you know, it's it 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.720 makes perfect sense to me that you would end up, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.240 you know, exactly the way you are. So anyway, you're 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:04.000 here to talk to us today about SEED. Yes, so 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.160 so let's talk to the people. What SEED. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.360 So initially SEED stands for Students Engaged in Ethical Donations, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.279 And so what SEED is It is the first youth 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.800 giving circle within Arizona. But I'm pretty sure, well we're 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.640 all pretty sure, that is the first all black youth 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.080 given circle within the United States, maybe even the world. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.960 And so essentially what that is is, you know, it's 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.360 a bunch of African American males from the ages of 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:35.960 sixteen to twenty one, and they all pitched together through 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:40.520 donations from like from within the organization and external donations 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.320 from people who support is just based off word of 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.880 mouth or whatever the case may be. And we use that, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.120 we use those funds and we disperse it back into 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:53.160 the community. We give out grants and other types of 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.520 financial support towards organizations that are either student led or 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.920 student based within within Arizona. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.440 So that to me sounds like a scholarship, is it 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.440 is a scholarship or is it more than a scholarship. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.800 I wouldn't say it's a well, I guess you kind 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.680 of say it is like like a scholarship in a way. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.800 The whole process kind of goes with the organization kind 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.120 of presenting to us what they would exactly use the 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.120 funds for some of like an application for a scholarship, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.680 and then you know, we'll grant them the scholarship money. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.440 So yeah, so so so it's a it's a fund 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:35.520 that you'll use to support like businesses or efforts or 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:42.120 undertakings or all the above. And then you know what, 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.560 why why did you feel like this was important? Why 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:50.760 did you create seed? So? I created seed because, you know, seeing. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.160 My dad as you mentioned, you know, growing up around 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.480 him and him being very for the people, it was 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.080 just naturally just to be, you know, be bestowed into me. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.560 And so throughout, like my childhood, I have always been 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.920 you know, doing things such as like community service hours 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.840 or my eye sorry, were I'm at like a food bank, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.560 you know, like donating food and packaging and food packages 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.760 and stuff like that. But you know, as I grew 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.560 older and I kind of got a more maturest tense 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.200 of the world. I kind of noticed that even though 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.120 the work that I was doing was good and was 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.320 you know, beneficial, it was on a small scale. And 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.680 so I kind of realized that there are initiatives out 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.600 there that are kind of pursuing change and are doing 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.960 things to enable change, but may not have the necessary 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.680 funds to do so. So so instead of you know, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.679 meetaking on the task myself of just you know, going 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.800 out every Sunday it's like, to a homeless shelter and 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.960 feeding those people. I realize, especially with my dad having 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.880 his own nonprofit, that you know, money definitely goes a 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.319 long way with nonprofits and other like justice type organizations, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.360 and so so the whole premise behind it was just 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:02.120 understanding that, you know, instead of me, you know, personally 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.640 being out in the field doing it, I mean in 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.440 a group of guys, can just be in the background, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.440 be behind the curtains and just run the show like 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.400 that and you know, just kind of make our influence 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.600 be felt within the community just by just my giving 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:18.359 out the grants. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.400 You are an inspiring person. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:21.160 Thank you. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.320 I try my best. How old are you nineteen? Hu? 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.600 You are leaps and bounds ahead of where I was 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.040 at nineteen young man. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:35.959 So listen on this show. We very much believe in 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.880 community service. No people that listen to us, obviously, you know, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.000 will be able to make that connection just because of 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.640 the format of the program here. But Q and I 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.800 we actually have a nonprofit and we've we've had we've 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.280 put on an event for ten years now something like that. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.400 This September will be year nine. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.319 Nine years okay, okay, so knocking on ten years. We're 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:06.959 pretty close. And our nonprofit is called the Change Society, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.440 and we do an event monthly when it's you know, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:16.680 when it's safe, called Hashtag Lunchbag. So you know, that's 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.280 something that we're really proud of. I think that we 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.600 had an estimation that we had fed like some like 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.120 fifty thousand people or something in total. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.280 In the organization that we that were partnered with Living 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.920 through Giving based out of Los Angeles, California shops to 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.560 my boy AJ who founded and started Hashtag Lunchbag through 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.640 our national and global partners, were well over a million 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:41.679 people fed. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:46.880 Right, So you know, this is something that's kind of 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:51.959 been in our hearts. But I will say that if 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:56.840 we started when we were nineteen man, that's a whole 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.520 other level. So, I mean, I know that this is 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.600 our first I'm sitting down together, but I will say 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.559 that I'm proud of you. So how do you see 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:11.720 seed growing? Like, what's you know, the growth potential for 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:12.520 this project. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:17.160 Yeah, So within the first five years, I do want 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.520 to stay local and just kind of build our kind 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.640 of reputation around the community within Arizona. But immediately after 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.440 that fifth year, right into the sixth year, I do 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.760 want to start branching out towards you know, other states, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:33.559 because there are there are other organizations that operate that 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.400 there are others, sorry, there are other giving circles out 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:40.480 there that would be eager to really connect with us 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.959 and really any given circle, and so definitely just building 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.240 our network and our connections globally it would definitely be 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.640 the next step. And that's perfect because you know, I'm 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.000 only nineteen, and so I'll have two to three, two 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.400 to three years left within the organization before I. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.560 Have to move on. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.959 And so within those two to three years, I can 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.679 start working in and d of manifesting, but in those 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.359 connections outside of Arizona. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.280 Okay, very good, And I'm guessing that your your dad 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:08.240 helped you make Seed. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.880 Yeah, so, so I'm a co founder of the other 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.040 co founder, Jaden. He wasn't able to make it tonight, 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.720 but both of our dads, they really helped us with 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:18.800 the origination of Seed. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:24.720 Awesome. Now, just just so we're like a little bit 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.160 more familiar outside of Seed. You know, what, what do 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.680 you do? What are you involved in? Yeah? 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.960 So, I am currently a sophomore at a s U, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.800 a major in architecture in real estate with a minor 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.480 in business, and. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:39.600 So there's that. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.320 I'm also I'm involved in Greek life. I'm the vice 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:47.680 president of membership for my fraternity, Sagmata Gamma at a SU, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.199 one of the best chapters on campus. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.760 And besides that kind of just school work. You know, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:55.280 I'm kind of. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.800 Into YouTube, so I I somewhat have a YouTube channel 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:02.559 going on work out things like that. But that's about it. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.160 Well, let's you know, let's let's let's make sure that 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.080 we plug you the right way. We gotta, we got 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:08.959 a full show to do, so if you will hang 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:10.760 out with us, but let's let's let's plug you the 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.120 right way. So where can people go to find out 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.160 more about Seed? And where can people go to find 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.200 out about you, like your YouTube and so for sure. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.800 So for Seed, I'm assuming you need donation support all 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.559 that sort of stuff too, So make sure you ask 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.360 for it because you know, we got to ask for it. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.800 If you need money, hey, now's the time, thank you. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.320 So So for Seed, we only have an Instagram right now. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.000 It is Seed Philanthropy, that's it. Within that Instagram account, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.560 you'll be able to see all of our members, will 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.400 be able to keep up with us, keep updates with 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.679 who we're supporting and things like that. And within our Instagram, 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.480 within our bio, we have the link to our website. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.760 Uh it's a zreap dot org slash Seed. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.520 And through that link you'll be able to give us 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.600 donations or you can actually sign up and become a 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.599 member if you are someone that you know will be 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:01.280 interested in Seed. And for me person only, my instagram 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.920 is at Soldier's World and my YouTube is kmet Soldia. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.240 Yeah okay, and don't forget money. Money is what we 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:15.400 need to part with if we're gonna empower and support 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.200 properly these sorts of initiatives. We have to invest in 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.400 the change and the changes that we want to see. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.480 So ATLAS is heeries asking for your support. You hear 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.440 my voice, you hear his voice one more time. Where 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:28.160 can they find it? 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.560 You can find you can find out a nation link 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.600 or members sign up link at azreap dot org, slash 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.800 seed and anything really helps. It needed to be two 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.240 thousand dollars, even though we would love two thousand dollars. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.840 It could be twenty dollars. A foundain around ten dollars, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.240 five dollars. Regardless of what it is. It doesn't go 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.520 into my pockets and the members pockets goes right back 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.400 into the community and we put it towards the great cause. 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.880 And that that Instagram one more time was what seed 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.240 philanthropy and just straight out no underscore, is no numbers 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:54.800 or anything like that. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.840 So at seed Philanthropy on Instagragram. Okay, so you heard 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.120 it again philanthropy. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.920 Okay. I hope you all paying attention to how polished 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:06.880 this young man is. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.280 And he's doing his thing. Man, I like this is 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.280 our first time sitting together. I'm proud of you. I'm 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.200 very proud of you. Please keep going man. That that 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:14.160 makes my heart. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.040 Hap If I find the time machine, I'm taking that 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:21.640 lists with me back to. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:26.400 I need friends like you. So yeah, once again, if 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.120 you're if you're just tuning in the civic scipher, I'm 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.240 the host ramsas. Yeah, they called me q ward and uh, 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.200 another thing that we wanted to talk about. You don't 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.000 mind hanging out with us today. Another thing we wanted 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.560 to talk about was this week. So one of the 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.120 I want I want to start because I want to. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.280 I want to, you know, I want you Q to 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.600 talk to me about the inauguration because I didn't get 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.040 to see it, and this is our first time kind 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:59.160 of going over. But I do want to say this. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.240 This will be the last time I may a man, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.760 this name a man, God is with me. If I 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.960 if nothing else happens, this would be the last time 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:15.480 I say it on purpose. Okay, I work in media. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.320 I've worked in media since I graduated from college. I 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:23.320 worked in media for sixteen years now, been on the 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:28.880 radio that long. We have a responsibility to you know, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.920 to the truth. We have responsibility to report, you know, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.000 even though I've worked in hip hop formats and you know, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.000 done that sort of a thing. You know, when you 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.680 have a platform and your voice, you know, reaches lots 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.960 of people. You there's a fundamental responsibility there. We're all 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:49.440 in agreement there, yes, yes, But also with that comes 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.920 the acknowledgment that there's some power you can you can 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.160 shape the narrative. It can be true, but you can 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.840 put your own spin on it. Yes, and they think 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.320 that we can see that happening in all media formats. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.440 So far be it from me to tell anyone else 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.600 how to do what it is that they do. You know, 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.560 to have a platform and to have a boy stick 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.840 carries and people that tune in every week, that's a gift. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.040 It's not one that I take lightly. But for me, 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:21.320 for this show, I think that this will be the 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:27.040 last time that I talk about Donald Trump unless something 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.320 else crazy happens. I feel like giving power to that 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:41.679 evil continues to drag his name into our Now is 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.439 our future. This is the future that we hope for, 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.879 So I'm calling it. This is the future. So we 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.239 don't need the past, especially that part of it in 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.760 the future. Now, I recognize that was something we had 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.760 to grow through, you know, everything in context, But in 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.480 terms of just picking on them, you know, I'm not 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.600 a buzzard, so you know that's dead. I'm gonna let 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.760 that be it. But with that said, where we are 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:11.680 right now, we have to understand what happened to fully 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.879 appreciate what's happening or what has happened at the inauguration. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.639 So this is my commitment for those of you that 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.320 follow me on Facebook. You might have seen me talk 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.359 about that earlier in the week or however it goes. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.280 But yeah, I think that, you know, there's a lot 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.560 of us that, you know, really feel like that past 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:38.480 administration was toxic. That's put it. And you know, I 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.920 you know, I broke my own rules, you know, because 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.320 I said, you know, you know, we got to everything, 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.240 you know, in moderation and context. You know, you're not 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.680 supposed to block people just because they have different political 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.639 opinions from you. You have to teach them, you have 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.520 to grow with them. They're still your brothers and your sisters, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.919 your countrymen. You have to share, you know, you have 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.600 to share time in space with these people. You go 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.399 out like that, but it's not a block like four 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:00.800 or five people already to speak. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.000 So, but and we talked about this on the show. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.440 You were not blocking those people because they voted Republican 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.960 and you voted Democrat. That because we have a lot 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.840 of friends over our entire adult lives that have done that, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.320 and it hasn't been an issue because we just had 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.720 differences in political beliefs. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.560 Yeah, this was different, very different. 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.280 And if you can't acknowledge that this was different, it's 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.080 because there's something in yourself that you're ashamed to admit, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.359 so you rather fight with us on it. This was 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.879 not about politics. This is about basic human decency, humanity, 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.600 and bigotry and racism. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.000 And I think that we said it best when we 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:47.840 had that episode that you know, in this instance and 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.399 in all instances, but you know, your politics is a 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.440 reflection of your morals and your character, you know, and 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.520 they don't have to necessarily be in alignment with mind, 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.400 but if they stand in contrast to mine, if direct, yeah, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.359 if if your if your political ideology is rooted in 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.360 my subjugation or the subjugation of my brothers and sisters 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.760 from you know, of of Mexican descent or whatever. You know, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:17.760 we could we could slice this five one hundred ways, 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.440 then you know, I think that that's a reflection of 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.840 your character. And so yes, my block block button absolutely works, 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.120 and I had the chance to exercise it a few 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.000 times this week, but well, that said, that's enough empowering 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.879 the past. I would like to know what your thoughts 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:34.120 were the inauguration. 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:42.160 Q Ward, Hmm, I had some unexpected joy today. Talk 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.480 to me so and and there might be some people 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.760 that share this opinion, but I know that I was not. 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.840 I didn't jump up and down when Joe Biden became 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:53.520 the candidate who I was gonna have to do. 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.040 I don't think that was what he was for, you 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:55.600 know what I mean. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:21:00.439 And I've been very much against and I didn't realize 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:04.080 it until today. You know, once again watching another inauguration, 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.680 but this time for the first time as a father 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:16.639 with both of my mixed children. It was just a 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.119 different experience than I expected. I did not expect to 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:24.520 be overjoyed today because in the year of George Floyd, 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.960 there's some discouraging truths in the idea that as the 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.840 world was watching, as the microscope was on us, and 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:39.160 as we were garnering levels of empathy and participation from 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.080 our allies that in my lifetime I had not seen before, 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:54.879 I was kind of disappointed that there's some parts of 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.800 my mind that say this is as good as it's 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:01.040 gonna get, and this isn't good enough, Like the most 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.639 sympathy you get from your mom, from your girlfriend, from 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.200 your friends, or like right after you just got beat up, right, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.600 your girlfriend hugs you, tie your mom put some ice 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:12.200 on it, gonna make your favorite meal, you know what 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.919 I mean? Like the people that care about you. And 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:17.879 that was funny by the mean it to be. But 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.479 when you're sick, when you're down, when you're at the bottom, 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.480 the people that care give you the most sympathy. You know, 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:28.840 I had meningitis years ago. The most I got messages 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.719 from people that I realized they love me because of 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:38.359 how they responded to me being in peril. George Floyd's 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:44.439 murder and the visual of him being murdered caused a 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:48.600 lot of people who otherwise have made excuses or justified 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:53.000 or whatever their reasoning was, to respond in a different way. 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.560 And that's why you might have saw the largest global 0:22:55.560 --> 0:23:01.000 civil rights movement ever right that his was a catalyst 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:05.600 for that. However, you look around today, you look around 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:13.480 to you know, a couple of Wednesdays ago, and you're like, wow, 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.920 even as you continue to see our brothers and sisters 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:22.320 being shot and murdered and beat for looking like us, 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:27.159 And that being the reason. Something in me said, man, like, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.320 even after that, this is still like, it's still this 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:37.040 because it doesn't get better. Like once I got back healthy, 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.800 I wasn't getting the same amount of text I wasn't 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.919 getting the same amount of phone calls. Of course you were, 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:47.919 but you know that that that as people see you 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.719 recharge and get back strong, it's like, okay, good now. 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.680 So soon as we start smiling and start walking back 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:57.560 up right, Oh they're good now. That sympathy, that empathy, 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:02.399 that participation, those allies they fade, and it's like, man, 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.800 in the year of George Floyd, like the summer of 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:11.600 George Floyd just having passed. You know, this inauguration just 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:16.240 having passed, and our first the first black woman to 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.639 hold office in the White House, the first woman to 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.600 hold office in the White House was a black woman. 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.399 Super powerful. As I'm holding my mixed black daughter in 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.400 my arms, I'm feeling real, real proud dad as I'm 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.879 watching that. But I was prepared to be discouraged by 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:37.960 all these things. And then Joe started talking, and Joe 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:43.800 started saying things, please forgive me. The President started saying things, 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.560 I'll never call you Joe again. President Biden, if you're 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.919 hearing me, President Biden started to say the things that 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.359 our nation absolutely needed to hear, but that I was 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.400 certain that I didn't want to hear right about working 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.719 together with them, about unifying about you know, let's and 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.200 I'm like, what's would this meet me in the middle stuff? 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.960 They just showed us year after year, month after month, 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.320 week after week, day after day. They don't care about us. 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:18.080 They rather see us die than disrupt, than to make 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.160 life inconvenient for them. Why are we going to such 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.240 lengths to extend these olive branches and work with these 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:30.280 people who fourteen sixteen days ago would have tried to 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:35.159 kill you if they could actively right, Except I realized 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:37.639 as he kept saying it, it wasn't just like a 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.640 part of his speech, This is how this man really 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:44.680 feels that that's what we need. The opposite of Donald 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.000 Trump would not have been for President Biden to say 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:54.560 the exact same things, except on our side, to have 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.200 that same divisive rhetoric, to set, to have that same 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.879 us against them mentality that I wanted him to have. 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.480 I wanted him to be juiced up and ready for 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:07.359 as much smoke as possible until I realized I was 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:11.960 being a hypocrite. I was just like those people who 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.000 in their minds justifiably stormed the Capitol because they were 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.840 being wronged. I was essentially saying, well, no, we should 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:24.720 storm the Capitol now because we were wronged. And President 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:29.320 Biden is saying over and over again, like we should 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:35.399 all be done with that mess, that nonsense, and that toxicity, 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:40.440 because there is no way forward, not together. If he 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.720 kept that same energy, just with the other point of view, 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.919 four years later, we'd still be sitting in the same spot. Ye, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:52.159 So you know, and then our sister showed out, you know, 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:58.639 Vice President Harris showed out, you know, our former first lady, 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:03.560 our forever first lady, Michelle Obama. She showed out, bro. 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:05.879 And then I want to make sure I'm saying this 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:13.480 young lady's name correctly, because Amanda Gorman, the brilliant poet 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:18.679 laureate who did the inaugural poem today, showed out. So 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:23.000 these brilliant queens again. As I'm holding my little girl, 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.320 I was overjoyed. I drove over here singing. Wasn't no 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.000 music in my car, and I wasn't singing out loud, 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.840 but I was rocking like I drove to the studio 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:39.600 in that same spirit, carrying that same energy, because we 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.400 discourage ourselves from being happy because we're waiting on another 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.480 shoot fall. I don't even get too excited because I've 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.960 heard a lot of he's just like every other politician talk. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.080 I've heard a lot of you know, all of the 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.800 things on his agenda won't be done. Of course they won't. 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.159 That's how our government has always worked, Let's be honest 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.280 about that. But having the right ideals, even if you 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.880 can't execute the plant, wanting to unite us and push 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.840 us all forward for the better of everybody is how 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.040 you're supposed to feel. Whether or not you're full of 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.080 busted or whether or not you're able to carry out 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.879 every bullet point on your agenda. The intention matters, the 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:20.640 desire to matters. A Yeah, it was. The whole thing 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.000 was very very positive, full of joy, full of love, 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:28.119 and full of the energy to unite us. I'm hoping 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:32.320 that he doesn't get the same pushback that I wanted 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:36.560 him to give them before I started watching the inauguration. 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:43.640 Well, the good news is that, you know, as divisive 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:51.360 as the previous administration was and really galvanized a lot 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:57.520 of us, you know, a lot of US independence of course, 0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:02.080 liberals and conservatives, even you know, the Lincoln was it 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.000 the Lincoln project or whatever. There's a bunch of Republicans 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.280 that were like, Yo, this dude is not he does 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:11.959 not represent Republican ideals. So we're voting against him, or 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.040 we're voting so that he can you know, we can 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:20.080 unseat him. You know, galvanized us got us all on 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.240 the same page, and you know, you know, here we are, 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.400 so you know, it's amazing what we can accomplish when 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:33.520 we do come together. And you know, another result of 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:40.120 that is that you know, now there's a democratic leaning 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.160 House of Representatives as well as a Democratic leaning Senate, 0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.000 so that's all three major branches. Or there's still the 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:54.040 Supreme Court. But you know there's ways around that too, 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.000 if people wanted to really get in there and do 0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:00.440 the most, which is something that I probably wouldn't do 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.920 if I was in that place, because you know, that's 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.320 just such a scary thing to have gone through as 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:11.800 a country, just to know that these people that you know, 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:14.320 a lot of people are going to take issue with 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:15.880 what I'm about to say, but I'm gonna say it. 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:21.000 How I say it, These people that bless their heart, 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.760 are given to fear. They think that the world, their 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.040 world is changing, that they're they're going to lose or somehow, 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.840 you know, they think the world is as black and 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.080 white as it is in their mind. If you do this, 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.240 then this, if you do that, then that everything else 0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.200 is just what it is, and that static world to 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:46.880 them makes sense. And you know this, the previous administration 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.040 was able to speak to their fears and so forth 0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:55.600 and tap into that fear and rile them up against 0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:02.880 decency nor you know, like standard. You know, their countrymen, 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.280 you know, and you just gave them everything that they needed. 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.560 And so, you know, I've said it before on the show. 0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.440 I do feel bad for the people that kind of 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:18.040 fell into that. I know how now that I'm older, 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.600 now that I've traveled the country, I've talked to these people. 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:20.760 You know. 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.200 Obviously, in order to be in this position, you know, 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.160 I can't just be in here like yeah, so this 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.600 is my way and that's the way it is. Well, 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.520 I can, but that's not really the right way to 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.200 do this type of show, you know. So you know, 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.320 I was holding a little bit of space for forgiveness 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.280 and there's a seat at the table for people that 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.160 don't agree with me, provided that we can all be respectful. 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.760 But you know, this previous administration, it's like getting out 0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.160 of an abusive relationship, you know what I mean. It's 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:50.160 like we're like, ooh, you know, just anything that's not 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:56.680 that so absolutely, but you know, and it was important 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.800 that we recorded the show today. You know, normally we've 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.560 card to show you know, at airtime, but we had to. 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.160 Record it today just be I reached out and I'm like, listen, 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.920 I just first of all, I had I saw a 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:14.600 movie yesterday that had me in my emotional space, like 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.760 I saw it for the third time yesterday, by the way, 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.360 I called you and told you that, and then after 0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:23.000 how I was feeling after I watched the inauguration, I'm like, bro, 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.000 we got to talk, like now I need I need 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:30.720 a microphone on like earlier. So so forgive like two 0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.120 hours ago, so forgive the delay. 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.280 In receiving this message. But but yeah, that brings me 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.400 to the you know, the next part of it, which, 0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.080 by the way, for you just tuning in side from 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:42.560 me host rams. 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.840 Yeah, they called me q ward and shout out to 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.000 our esteemed guest, like, I might start looking up to 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.000 this kid, and he's a full decade and some change 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:55.040 younger than me, the young scholar, mister Atlas. 0:32:55.200 --> 0:33:00.640 Yes, sir, but well before we move on, because I 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.160 do want to talk about the movie. In fact, that's 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.520 part of the reason why we hite me to sit 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.480 down today. Atlas. Did you get a chance to take 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.600 anything in from the inauguration? It is? You know? 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.400 Yeah, so sadly had class today, so I wasn't able 0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:16.840 to watch the full thing, but I was able to 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.400 see a few highlights and all that, and my initial takeaways, 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.960 I'm really not like a huge like politics guy. I 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.720 do find it important, but like you won't see me 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.080 like watching CNNN like twenty four to seven or anything 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:28.440 like that. 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:29.760 You gotta go to school. 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.680 Yeah, but one of my main one of my main 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.040 takeaways from that was definitely seeing Kamala Harris up there, 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.760 just because I guess for me personal that kind of 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.600 cemented the idea that at this point or at this rate, 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:48.200 really anything as possible, like for our people. I really 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.880 hope that you know, my younger sister, my younger cousins, 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.880 they probably weren't watching, but hopefully they see her when 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.240 they get older as an example that, you know what, 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.280 growing up in the world where people say you really 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.440 can't do anything, you can't do this, you can't do that, 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.320 they see your as an example as well, they're all wrong. 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:05.640 You can do whatever you put your mind to. 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:11.480 And definitely seeing Kamala Harris up on stage like slidified 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.799 the idea that not even that but kind of just 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:19.719 you know, strengthen the notions of like enabling us as 0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:25.160 a people. Like Kamala Harris is a product of you know, 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.239 Martin Luther King and all of our grandparents fighting like 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.920 for our rights way back in the day. Kamala Harris 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.360 is a product of even the horrible things are happening 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.160 before then and that lead up to today. 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:37.600 And Kambla. 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.160 Harris is in a way not to like rag about seed, 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.719 but like kam La Harris kind of like slies the 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.319 idea of seed actually being a thing, you know, just 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.480 like you wouldn't expect, you know, a nineteen year old 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.839 African American, you know, college kid to do something like this, 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.319 or even a high schooler in a co founder doing 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.239 something like this, but I mean against all odds and 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.680 in the world where we are marginalized. You know, they're 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.879 still trying to find a way to actually make their 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.840 voice heard and make their impact it that they want to. 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:15.240 So I found that part about it specifically powerful. 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.960 A couple of things, Uh, you should always brag about Seed. 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.000 This this is the place for that. 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:26.080 Almost y'all say that. If you don't brag about Seed, 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.120 we're going to. We absolutely should. We're very proud of you. 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:32.279 Absolutely, Which one more time, how can people support see 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:33.840 where can they find that more information? Right now? 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.759 We only have an Instagram account. It is at Seed 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.839 Philanthropy on Instagram. There is no underscores, no numbers, nothing 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.600 like that, just Seed straight out. Our website is as 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.920 reap dot org slash Seed. On that website, you can 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.719 either donate to us anything helps, or you can become 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.120 a member if you know a cousin, a nephew, a 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.160 son that you feel would be a good fit for 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.200 the program or you feel like he would benefit a 0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.680 lot for the program. We're always taking new members. So 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.040 that is as reap dot org slash Seed for our website, 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.800 and see Philanthrope on Instagram for our actual account. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:09.640 Absolutely, and the main thing that Seed is in need 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:14.080 of is money invest in the future, all right, so 0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.799 especially that kind of future. Yeah, that's that's what we're 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:23.799 talking about. So shifting gears a little bit. Qward, you 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:29.120 wanted me to watch a movie because I have sons. 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:34.040 Let's talk about this movie, yes please, let's so. The 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:44.440 name of the movie is American Skin. And I recognize 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.480 that maybe some folks haven't seen it yet. I know 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.960 it's not a new movie, but the way that the 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.240 world is right now. 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.839 Actually it wasn't festivals a little bit ago, but it's 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.120 new to the normal, the normal viewer or consumer just 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:00.600 few days ago. 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.360 Okay, so but I'm saying like, it's not like today's 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.440 the days like you know, so some people might have 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:06.080 already been able to. 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:10.879 Go yes, I'm yes, yes, yes so, but there's a. 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:12.680 Lot of people that may not have been able to 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.920 watch it yet. So I'm gonna do my best to 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.319 tell you what the movie's about without giving away any spoilers. 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:29.040 But basically, it is a story. This is a work 0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:37.840 of fiction, and it chronicles it's like documentary style filming, 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:44.400 but it chronicles a man who was pulled over for 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:50.000 a traffic stop. He had his fourteen year old son 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.920 in the car with him. I have a fifteen year 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:54.560 old son, So this is why Q wanted me to 0:37:54.560 --> 0:38:03.359 watch it. And like I cried like probably like six 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.839 times during the movie. So this is tough, man, because 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:07.319 you know, you can see a lot of stuff and 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.520 you you know, anyway, so it's a traffic stop. You know, 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.480 we all know the story. Traffic stop. You know, you 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.399 gotta reach in the glove box, you know, do this, 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.880 and the third officer gets scared. A little kid ends 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.439 up getting shot. So this man sees his son get 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:26.319 shot in the street, and you know everything that comes 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:31.279 after that. Uh, the city is looking to you know, 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.760 or rather the people are looking to get a conviction, 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:41.680 like a murder conviction from you know this, this child's murder, at. 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.240 The very least to have charges brought against the officer 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:46.360 who murdered the young man. 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:53.520 Right, And when that doesn't happen, the father ultimately this 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.160 this I'm giving you the real quick and dirty version 0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:57.839 of the movie. You really have to watch it again, 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:02.479 American Skin. But after the the verdict comes back and 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.920 that the officer won't be charged, the father decides that 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:14.399 he's going to take the police hostage, and he does 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:21.480 it he actually does it, and then he liberates temporarily 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.160 at least some folks in the jail that are on 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:32.879 the premises and conducts a fair trial. And the prisoners 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.120 and you know, some normal folks that happen to be 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.080 at the police station at the time. They serve as 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:43.680 the jury. The officer who shot his son is the accused, 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.360 and another police officer defends that officer, you know, working 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:52.840 as a lawyer, and you know, they have a secondary trial, 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.680 and you know, the rest of the story plays out, 0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:01.879 and so what we end up seeing is what that 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:06.160 looks like from both sides. And one thing that I 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:12.240 thought was very important about this movie is that it 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.200 really if you don't know what it's like to live 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:21.960 in fear of the police, it helps you to see 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.880 what life is like living in fear of the police. 0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.239 If you don't know what it's like to feel like 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.960 you have no voice at the table, you know, you 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.120 just have to kind of take everything on the chin, 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.200 you know, it helps to explain what that's like. You know, 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:39.960 a lot of people they feel like they can talk 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.959 back to the police. A lot of people feel like, well, 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.000 I'm entitled to my dignity. That's not something that black 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:51.160 people have, you know, as standard in this country, dignity 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.080 goes right out the window. What do you need, officer? Okay, 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:58.120 you want me to you know what did Dave Chappelle say, 0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.960 spread my cheeks and lift my sack? Yes, sir, you know, 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:08.640 because it's a matter of life and death. But this 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.879 movie kind of helps, you know, provide a window into 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.040 what that experience is like. But another thing this movie 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:21.319 does is it gives a voice to the officers. And 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.080 you know, no matter what your persuasion is, you know, 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.600 on this side of the argument of black lives matter 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.239 versus blue lives matter, as if there was such a 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:34.200 thing perpetuated by us on our end, the black lives matter, folks. 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:41.440 For those who are unclear, you know, it helps to 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:49.920 know what it is that the officers go through as well. 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:54.080 One thing that I will say, and you know you 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:58.080 know me. You listen to me every week, and if 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.440 you don't, you probably know me any but you might 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.040 know me from TV or something else. But you know 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.600 I'm a good person. But one thing that I'll never 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.160 not be as black. If you've ever seen you've seen 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.120 my hair, and that speaks volumes. I got a big 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:15.640 ol'd afro so to my babies, And that's that's deliberate. 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.160 You know, I wear it on TVs, on the billboards, 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.640 on the magazines, everywhere I go, except for that one 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.960 time when I had it straightened. You didn't like that. 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.280 Yeah, you're just walking the Princey Kravitz. 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:32.839 But again, it's important to know that, you know, there's 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.879 there's another side to this. There are people who they 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.799 do wake up, they put on a uniform, they you know, 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.399 go out there and they feel like what they're doing 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.160 is making the difference. Their job is to protect the 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:50.760 good guys from the bad guys, as it were. They 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.360 you know, you can't see the forest from the trees, 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.920 so it's very difficult to see a broken system when 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.600 you're in it and it appears to be working from 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:06.560 your vantage point. Your motivation therefore is to defend it 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:11.080 because it's you know, this person was bad, that person 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.719 was bad. This is a casualty. That's the cost of 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.279 this thing that we're doing. In fact, they talked about 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:21.080 that in the film. You know, there's this opinion that 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.680 you know, the in the movie, it explores it that 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:29.200 black people are constantly reaching for things to spin a 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.440 narrative to make everyone else the problem except for black people. 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.000 And the film discusses that, you know, and for those 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.600 of us that know, for those of us who have 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.960 been educated, for those of us who know our history 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.200 and understand how things came to be. You know, we 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.560 didn't just click on in nineteen ninety or nineteen eighty 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.520 five or whenever we were born. We've done the research 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.680 and we've seen that the world was not always like this, 0:43:53.800 --> 0:44:00.239 That things like mass incarceration, things that were perpetuated or 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:05.120 initiated by our own government that have disproportionately affected black people, 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:09.319 from housing to you know, from the thirteenth Amendment to 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:14.439 redlining to you know, crack in the eighties and and 0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.279 you know, mass incarceration and so forth, and know the 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.640 history of it, the things that were done to black 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:24.120 people specifically, you know, those are things there were. There 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.880 were things discussing the movie that made me want to 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:27.560 throw up in my mouth. But I needed to hear 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:32.080 them because I understand now, and I did, but you know, 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:38.360 to see the dramatization of it that people really feel 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.319 that way. People these people have no idea, they really 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.520 do think, Okay, you guys are just horrible people, and 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.640 if you stop being horrible people, then all these problems 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:50.839 will stop happening, which is exceptionally short sighted, but it's 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.600 fair if that's all you know. And and the thing 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.280 is if you come to the table with a little 0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.239 bit of compassion as a black man, and you understand, Okay, 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.120 my brother doesn't know as much as I do. My 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.360 Caucasian brother doesn't know as much as I do. And 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.520 there was a Hispanic man in the movie too, and 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.160 he was super cop. He was like copped out. Did 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.920 you see the part, right, I'm a spoilerst he. 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.280 Was Mississippi State trooper cop. 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.640 Yeah, like that. Okay, for those of you to listen 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.239 to the show, you might get that reference when me 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:20.719 and Q got pulled over Mississippi. 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.600 But and you have to warn people if you're gonna 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.360 spoil a movie they haven't seen. You got it, Like, okay, 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:27.600 I'll just I'll just speak around it. But there's a 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:32.120 scene where this this Hispanic officer talks to an inmate 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:38.320 who is also Hispanic, right, and the inmate was speaking 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.400 Spanish and my Spanish no subtitles too, that's important. 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.080 None. You could not hear what he what you couldn't. 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.360 If you don't speak Spanish, you can't understand. Fortunately, I 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.759 can speak a little bit of Spanish, so I go betto. 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.479 I understood a little bit about what he was saying, right, 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.880 But it didn't matter because the tone never lost as cool. 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.200 And you see the officer gets so upset and so 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.120 riled up. He's like, you think you're better than me, 0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.400 this and that and the other. And so this movie 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:11.359 really tackles how two people can be in the same 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:15.320 race and on two different sides of the same issue, 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:21.520 which speaks to the institutional nature of the racism, not 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:26.120 the racism per se. Right, you know, this is not 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.440 spoiling anything. But the captain of the police force was black, 0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.359 and so a lot of the officers felt like, well, 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.960 the captain's black, so we can't it's impossible for us 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:36.960 to be racist. We work with this guy every day, 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.760 We love this guy, you know what I mean. And 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.839 you can see that there is a disconnect between you know, 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:50.239 them living their life and the real world, the real 0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:53.000 people that are affected by the decisions that they make, 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.800 you know. And so this film did an excellent job 0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:04.680 of telling a story beginning and from both sides. Now 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:11.760 obviously the film. It's it's it's written and directed by 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:16.960 a black person, So that's going to be present in 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:18.960 the film. You're going to you're gonna see that. It's 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.040 it's a it's from a black perspective, and it's a 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.080 black story. We all know that. We we see it 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:29.320 played out on on CNN and on our cell phones 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.920 every few weeks when someone else is murdered in the streets, 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.000 and those are just the stories we hear about. But 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:40.680 it speaks to the fear that this country has when 0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:45.800 interacting with black people, black men especially. There's just fear there, 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.040 you know, And even though there's nothing to be afraid of, 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:54.759 it's just built into the conversation. So people can make 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:59.880 decisions based on a fear that's rooted in racism. And 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.880 these people don't see the connection from their behavior to racism, 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.920 but those of us on this side can absolutely see it. 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:08.680 There's no reason to be afraid. I'm a man with 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.200 a beating heart, same as you. I want to go 0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:13.600 home to my babies, you know, and you get to 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.440 go home to your babies. And so this isn't just 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.600 an endorsement of the film, although that is definitely that 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.719 you should definitely watch American Skin. I don't know if 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.719 it's free yet, but pay for it. Support support this man. 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.319 He made the movie himself. I think it was directed or. 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.560 Produce, written, directed, and starring Nate Parker. 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:38.960 Okay, Spike Lee. 0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:45.719 Spike Lee's definitely one of the one of the producers. Please, 0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:46.520 I don't want to cut you off. 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.160 No no, no no. So so here is where I 0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:57.000 want to shift because my understanding is that this film 0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:05.520 has received some There's been an issue with how how 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.640 the film has been received, and I think you can 0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:08.200 speak to that. 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.560 So before speaking to that, I want to kind of 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:17.040 piggyback off of what you said. Again, this is civic 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:22.959 Cipher with the esteemed Ramsey's job. 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:24.000 Oh thank you. 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:27.680 They called me q Ward and that just so happens 0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.799 to be the name my mama gave me. My mom 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.400 is typically in here watching this. I'm surprised that she's not. 0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.319 At some point, I'm sure she will be because she 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.160 be on Ramsey's case. And I got my young scholar 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:40.759 over here at Las say what's up to the. 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.080 People it's going on? Atlas Hopkins. 0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:48.400 The idea that they fear us, bro I'm I know 0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:52.319 how I behave when I'm afraid. Yeah, and I know 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.640 how we were treated by those officers in the middle 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.680 of the night in Mississippi on the side of the highway. 0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.080 That was one time in our life. That's all the time. 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.839 That's not how I treat people when I'm afraid of them. Yeah, 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:04.799 you get what I'm saying. I think fear is a 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:09.920 very convenient excuse to explain why you just killed something, Right, 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.000 I was afraid that it was gonna kill me, So 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.160 it's not justified. But I know how, Like I'm afraid 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:20.280 of my mother, I know how I stealed. I'm super grown. 0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:23.640 I'm scared her if her tone twitch a little bit, 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:29.160 I'm scared, like literally physically afraid, right, So I know 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:33.480 how fear causes me to respond. Sure, And they don't 0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:37.240 respond to us like they're afraid of us. They respond 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:41.680 to us like they're intolerable, like they're fed up, Like 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:46.480 the way exterminators treat rodents and you call the exterminator 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:48.360 that come to your house. They're not afraid of them. 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.920 They're going to get rid of them without prejudiced. Wow, 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.480 that's how they treat us, not like they're scared of us. 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.040 Like if we went on a safari in Africa. We 0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.759 was in a truck with no road, no bars, no 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:06.400 and a lion walked up and we were afraid. You 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.920 know what I'm saying. Fear is different. Yeah, I think 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:13.360 that's just a very very convenient excuse for them to 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:18.840 justify the attempt at extermination. And that might sound like 0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:23.480 extreme language, but watch the videos that get posted every 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:28.040 few days. Right, it's hard to fear the man running 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:32.600 away from you, or hard to explain that that's fear. 0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.640 If you've seen a trailer for this movie American Skin 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:43.040 written directed starring Nate Parker. When you watch the trailer, 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:46.920 even in the trailer you see that his son is 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:51.600 retreating from the officer, it's hard to tell me that 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.120 you were scared of that kid. Besides the fact that 0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.040 he was fourteen, Besides the fact that you already know 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:58.759 that it's a cell phone and not a gun, because 0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:00.239 he tried to say he might have been reached for 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.240 a gun, but you already know it's not. Besides those 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:08.399 obvious truths, he's retreating from you. So it's very very 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:12.560 hard to convince me that that was out of fear. Right, 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:17.880 your job is to protect and serve. But who like 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:23.480 in this country, our military and our police are voluntary. 0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:27.319 People are not drafted into these positions, right, So if 0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:29.880 you sign up to protect and serve, it's to protect 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:34.320 and serve the citizens, not yourself and each other. Because 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.520 you hear that as justification too. I wanted to make 0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.360 it home to my family. And those officers are in 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:41.200 such a dangerous job. They signed up for that job, 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:45.600 their lives on the line to protect ours is the 0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.799 whole point. So you're gonna murder me so that you 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:54.400 can go home. I'm unarmed on my phone. You're the 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:59.320 trained officer with the weapon, so kind of miss me 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.319 a little bit with your fear. You were asking me 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.640 about the way that the movie was rated and received. 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.719 I'm sorry for that ramp, but can I get the 0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:10.960 fear stuff? 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:13.840 So, so talk about the ratings, how how it was received? 0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:14.319 What's up? 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:19.359 So all right, I'll speak on it well first, then 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:26.640 if I'm gonna talk, I'm gonna say this, fear super convenient, 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.240 But you're absolutely right, cute, it doesn't tell the whole story. 0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:34.840 Fear with a gun, Fear plus a gun plus a 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:42.600 lack of respect for black life, a lack of empathy. Sure, 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.880 and you know, I think that a lot of times 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:51.200 there's you you become like to a to a man 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.760 with a hammer, the world becomes a nail or everything 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:55.680 in the world becomes a nail or something like that. 0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.000 If you end up telling yourself a story that every 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:02.680 body needs to obey you because you're the authority. As 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:05.719 soon as people don't do things exactly the way that 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:12.400 you want, then you know, you end up your ego 0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.560 is bruised and you need to prove a point or 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.160 whatever the story is, and you just end up being bullies. 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:19.319 And that's what it is, and people pay with their 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.920 lives because you have a god complex and a gun. 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.200 So this is something that we do know and it's 0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:28.160 it's more than fear, but it's very much rooted in 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:31.080 that because you don't grab your gun until you're afraid 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.640 generally speak, or until you feel disrespected, you know what 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:40.480 I mean, unless when you arrived as the exterminator, you 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:44.239 get okay, you arrived with the intent to exterminate. Now 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:47.600 let me say this before we get out of here. 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.279 I need about forty five seconds to speak on that 0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:54.520 rady before we get out of here. 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:58.160 Two course, that's what we're gonna talk about. But I 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.840 saw a video today. This It was from Tucson, Arizona, 0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:06.440 and there was a woman who walked into a Low's 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.960 Ventana Canyon Resort in Tucson. I actually been to this place. 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.759 She walked in and sat down in the lobby and 0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:15.080 there was a lady, white lady next to her who 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:18.279 didn't like her sitting there, so asked her to move. 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:20.439 You know. It was a little bit of back and forth, 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:23.240 but nothing crazy. The woman got up, walked to another table, 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.680 sat at the other table. The woman was still upset 0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:29.040 because the black lady didn't leave, so she called the police. 0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.000 The police came, took the black lady out in handcuffs 0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.279 and no point. The whole time. You can see on 0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:38.840 the video the white woman, she's older at Karen, screaming, belligerent. 0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.040 She's been drinking, of course, she's been hanging out down 0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:42.759 or whatever. Just didn't like the fact that there was 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:45.799 a black woman and there spoiling her fun. Police came 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:50.400 and they take the black woman away. And the crazy 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.000 part about it is the police were there asking what happened, 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:59.160 or asking witnesses everything, what's happening. Somehow these police were 0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.399 convinced that this black woman was the instigator, this black 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.480 woman was the threat needed to be handcuffed and then 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.640 escorted away. It's been the night in jail. So with 0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:09.239 any luck, I'll be able to get her on the 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:12.080 show so she can tell her story. But in the meantime, 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.520 we don't rock with Low's Montana Canyon Resort in Tucson. 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:20.320 And if you do, then you're supporting racist administration, racist staff, 0:56:20.360 --> 0:56:23.359 and racist behavior. And I think that that very much 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:27.880 speaks to this culture of fear that surrounds black people 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:34.320 that is oftentimes the genets or the nexus of these 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.080 behaviors that end up being so drastic, you know, taken 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:42.160 on by the police and ultimately criminal justice system, which 0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.279 is why this film was so important. The thing is, 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:48.080 this film is the sort of thing that I want 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:49.759 to make sure that we support. I want people to 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.040 watch it, I want people to talk about it, because 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:54.080 these are things that can happen in your world, on 0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:56.960 your time, you know, at your comfort level, and then 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.240 you can have a conversation about it with your friends. 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.160 The thing is, the reason this film needs your help 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:05.719 is because we've found that there's some people working against 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:08.880 the way that the film's being rated, So in brief, 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:10.080 what does that look like you? 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.800 So, I'm sure you guys are familiar with the movie 0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:20.760 rating website Rotten Tomatoes. I have to, in full disclosure, 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:24.520 admit that typically when I'm looking to see what movie 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.920 I want to see next, the Rotten Tomato score kind 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:29.920 of gives me an idea of whether or not I'm 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:33.160 going to invest my money in my time and seeing 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:37.760 said film, and the Rotten Tomato scores for the movie 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:43.800 American Skin were and are bad per the critics on 0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:47.320 the website, It's an incredible moment, except the movie isn't 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:50.920 just good, like, oh, that was cool, the movie's amazing. 0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.880 So then I was confused, So I go on to 0:57:53.960 --> 0:58:01.200 Rotten Tomatoes. Thirteen white men review this movie. No women, 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:11.280 no minorities. Watch the movie American Skin, so on Amazon, Prime, iTunes, 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.280 a bunch of different streaming services have it, but you 0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:18.080 have to buy it. So support this movie. See this movie. 0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:22.040 It's important and it's powerful, and then go to Rotten 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.560 Tomatos and rate it that part and. 0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.960 With that said, we'll get out of here. So be 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.760 sure to check out the website civiccipher dot com to 0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.960 recap this and any previous shows. Of course, you can donate. 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.440 We need your donations. The show is growing all the time, 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:38.840 the growth opportunities we can take advantage of them with 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:42.400 your support fiscal support. 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