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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that both to next Jobia Brek Beiers.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 4: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's the fight week of all fight weeks, and

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow is going to join me at this plush

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Speaker 5: Residence Inn in less than forty eight hours.

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Speaker 6: Great to have you with us.

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Speaker 5: Monday, July five, twenty twenty one, Episode three oh seven

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Speaker 5: of the Anak and Florian Podcast. We're coast to coast today.

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow's in the Carolinas. We will not tell you

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Speaker 5: if it is north or south. So I'm here in

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Speaker 5: Las Vegas Hurricane Elsa. As you know, Ken Flow has

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Speaker 5: been downgraded to a tropical storm. But the UFC did

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Speaker 5: not want to take any chances with the Floridians, the

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Speaker 5: Florida based at leets and personnel. So I flew out

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Speaker 5: here yesterday July fourth, and I'm hunkering down here at

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Speaker 5: the Residence End for fourteen days.

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Speaker 6: My man, here we go.

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Speaker 3: John. We don't want you to be so comfortable sleeping

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Speaker 3: in your bed, you know, having all your comforts at home.

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Speaker 3: We got to keep you alert and hungry for this show. Kid.

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Speaker 3: This is a big one. Let's go.

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Speaker 6: That's the truth.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to start cutting weight as soon as we

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Speaker 5: get off of this fine program. So a couple of

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Speaker 5: things I want to get into in headlines. Just some

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Speaker 5: news breaking between last Monday when we did our Q

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Speaker 5: and A and this Monday. So I want to get

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Speaker 5: into seedl Goan and Derek Lewis the interim heavyweight title booking.

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Speaker 5: Also some thoughts on the main event coming up here

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Speaker 5: in headlines. And then of course anybody who has been

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Speaker 5: dying to see Ken Flow in the Venom Fight kid

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Speaker 5: gets their opportunity this weekend. You know, they fit pretty

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Speaker 5: snug can Flow. So I don't know what size they

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Speaker 5: have for you, maybe medium or lodge, but uh, I

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Speaker 5: got you a Patriots T shirt. By the way, I

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Speaker 5: have some gifts for your son, Archer. I got you

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Speaker 5: a Patriots T shirt. I got you a large. It

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Speaker 5: says like number one Dad on the back or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But thinking that that you could shrink it, right, because

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Speaker 5: if I buy you a medium, you probably wash it.

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Speaker 5: And then you can never dry it because it won't

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Speaker 5: fit the right way. So I brought you large. It

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Speaker 5: looks like a goddamn tablecloth, so it's way too fuck John,

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Speaker 5: These are these.

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Speaker 3: Are all euphemisms for you saying you've I'm a little

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Speaker 3: chubbier than I was before. Uh, and I'm most likely

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Speaker 3: at large to maybe actual large. So that's it.

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Speaker 5: Well, if I didn't laugh at the rub of your joke,

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Speaker 5: it's because you cut out for a minute.

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Speaker 2: So sorry.

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Speaker 6: We have gifts.

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Speaker 5: We have gifts for you when you get here, and

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Speaker 5: only one of the gifts, by the way, is optional

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Speaker 5: for you to take home. Because I brought you some

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Speaker 5: antikind flooring podcasts. Why why am I like giving away

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Speaker 5: everything that I gave away? So I got you some

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Speaker 5: anicin floring podcast monogrammed egg weights. I have them with

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Speaker 5: you with me. I think three, either the two pound

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Speaker 6: You know I do, all right?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely here for.

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Speaker 6: She will a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 5: So, as many of you know, my eldest daughter, Riley,

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Speaker 5: and she's going for three and a half weeks, right,

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Speaker 5: And part of what they try to do, at least

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Speaker 6: Can I please talk to Tatum, who is her younger sister.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna fucking literally flood my house

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Speaker 6: And like like what do you do? You know, like

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Speaker 6: you gotta stick it out, you know, but what do

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Speaker 2: That is tough.

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Speaker 3: That that that definitely will pull out the heart strings,

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Speaker 3: you know, leaving home for the first time. I mean

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm certainly not gonna force her to go

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Speaker 5: You know the next phone call, right is going to

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Speaker 5: But uh, I always said to my wife, and I

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Speaker 5: And boy was I wrong on that. But uh, man

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Speaker 5: So all right, So the UFC announced an interim UFC

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Speaker 5: Heavyweight Championship fight between seatle Ghan and Derek the Blackbeast

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Speaker 6: So Francis and Ghanu.

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Speaker 5: It took thirteen UFC fights to finally become the UFC

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Speaker 5: the promotion unceremoniously or otherwise is having an interim UFC

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Speaker 5: Heavyweight Championship fight now. Certainly other champions have been extended

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Speaker 5: a much longer leash. Right, we could talk about Thug

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Speaker 5: I don't know the inner workings of the communication between

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Speaker 3: So it's tough, you know. I think these are kind

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Speaker 3: You know, Derek Lewis fight.

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Speaker 5: Dustin Poorier is now a slight favorite in this fight,

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Speaker 3: I think he still has that hunger. He has improved

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Speaker 5: And I know the Hall of Fame conversation can fall

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Speaker 5: have two different cases in Tony Ferguson and Dustin Poorier, right,

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Speaker 6: Go look at the first McGregor loss.

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Speaker 5: You know, reels off four more wins than the main

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Speaker 5: As I was studying this fight, this thematically just kept

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Speaker 5: it's like, what about Dustin, Like, is this dude with

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Speaker 5: So, when you were in the prime of your career,

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Speaker 3: I think that's the case as well, John, from what

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Speaker 3: And I think that, Yeah, I think he's so comfortable,

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Speaker 5: Right, Like if Domina Cruz had released his footwork videos

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Speaker 6: Right, But now he.

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Speaker 5: There may be no more dangerous round one fighter in

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Speaker 3: I do think he can. Listen, I think there's a

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Speaker 3: bring it to you. However, he's got to let it

436
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 3: come more organically, and he's got to be more of

437
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: a counter striking sniper. That's when he gets his knockouts,

438
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 3: not when he's out there forcing just trying to unload

439
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 3: on you combination after combination.

440
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 5: Prior to the rematch on Fight Island in January, just

441
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 5: to back up your point, Dustin Poier sat down and

442
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 5: said to us that Conor McGregor is the best counter

443
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 5: striker in the UFC, you know.

444
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: No question about it. He gets in, he just gets

445
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: out of your he's pursuing, but he allows you to throw.

446
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: He gets out of the way. That hey lands same

447
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 3: thing against Eddie. I mean, do you look. The level

448
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 3: of counter striking that he showed against Eddie Alvarez is

449
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: something you will rarely, if ever see at the UFC level.

450
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: Connor shows a counter striking that is extremely, extremely rare

451
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 3: in mixed martial arts. If he could be that guy,

452
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: and remember that he is that guy, that he could

453
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Speaker 3: have a great night against Dustin Purrier.

454
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Speaker 5: Looks like sixty five percent of the bets thus far,

455
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 5: and this is a broad generalization, but sixty five percent

456
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 5: of the bets thus far have been on Dustin Poorier.

457
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 5: So when I sent the odds out to our show

458
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Speaker 5: last week, Connor was favored, and now Dustin Poria interesting

459
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Speaker 5: the betting favorite, which I find to be pretty interesting

460
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 5: as well. But I do feel like there are a

461
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 5: lot of lazy takes on the Connor McGregor side out there.

462
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 5: And Dan Lambert, I believe I watched an interview he

463
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Speaker 5: did recently where he just talked about how underrated Connor

464
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 5: McGregor is because we make so much of the man,

465
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: the myth, the legend, everything that encompasses the total package

466
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Speaker 5: that is Connor McGregor that Dan Lambert believes that we

467
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 5: underrate him as a fighter. But in terms of that

468
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 5: second fight, I don't know how long ago, and I

469
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 5: guess for you with the steel trap memory, it doesn't

470
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 5: really matter. But two weeks ago I went back and

471
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 5: watched that second meeting between Dustin and Connor, and like

472
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 5: Connor won the first round. I mean, yeah, he got

473
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Speaker 5: taken down at an end, but he landed the better

474
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 5: shots he was very close to landing a seminal blow.

475
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 5: So those who suggest that you know, Connor is so

476
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 5: up against it seven months after losing the fight, like, dude,

477
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 5: he won the fucking first round, like you know.

478
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: Right, right, absolutely, absolutely, these are adjustments that can be made.

479
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: These are things that he can change and switch up

480
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 3: quite easily. And this is not to take away from

481
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: what Dustin Porriy did, because Dustin can certainly make adjustments

482
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: as well. I think that's what makes this fight so

483
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: unpredictable and so tough to call. I can't wait for it, man.

484
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 5: So Connor McGregor's UFC debut is April sixth, twenty thirteen,

485
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 5: in Sweden, a couple weeks before my daughter Tatum was born,

486
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 5: so I did not go on the trip, but thank

487
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 5: god Kenflow was there to scream at the top of

488
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 5: his lungs. This is why everybody's been talking about Connor McGregor,

489
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 5: and that SoundBite obviously has lived on in infamy, but

490
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 5: it will be very exciting when they locked the door

491
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 5: behind these two guys real quickly in terms of Connor

492
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 5: McGregor's legacy. That's why he's back, right, He's not back

493
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 5: for I mean, he'll cash the check, as we said repeatedly,

494
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: but he's back for legacy. And as it stands right now, Kenny,

495
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: he is one and two at one hundred and fifty

496
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 5: five pounds in the UFC, and we're Connor McGregor to

497
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 5: lose this weekend and fall to one in three in

498
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 5: the weight class that many of us believed he would

499
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 5: do his best work. I mean, that would be pretty stunning.

500
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 5: And I don't know, man, I don't know how much

501
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 5: you think this result this weekend is going to tell

502
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: you about like where Connor stacks up with the elite fighters.

503
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 5: Right now, there's always pressure. A lot of fighters say

504
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 5: every fight in the UFC is must win. But could

505
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 5: you imagine if next week we're sitting here doing the

506
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: show and Connor's one and three at fifty five in

507
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 5: the UFC and completely out of the championship mix. I mean,

508
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, It's crazy to me, like this

509
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: is his weight class and he just hasn't really been

510
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 5: able to get untracked at fifty five for whatever reason.

511
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 3: One hundred percent I'll say this, I think that it

512
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 3: is kind of coming at an interesting time that you know,

513
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: when the time that he should be fighting at one

514
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: hundred thy five pounds. He fought an absolute animal and

515
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: habiit Mamoga metof a terrible stylistic matchup. There will always

516
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: be a terrible stylistic matchup for him. So he may

517
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: have lost to the greatest hundred and forty five pounder

518
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: of all time, but I do think that he also

519
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 3: it also came at a time when he was also

520
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 3: a multi millionaire, and he got there extremely quickly. His

521
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: stardom right, his ability to attract as as a major

522
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 3: athlete as a major personality is both his strength and

523
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 3: his weakness. And I think that going from being you know,

524
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: a kid who's trying to make it from Crumblin to

525
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: being a superstar in a very short amount of time

526
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: and then a multi multi millionaire, where now you know

527
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: you're being you know, driven to practice in you know

528
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: a Rolls Royce or you know having bodyguards or not

529
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: able to go anywhere, or you know, going from you

530
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: know a rusty old gym to a brand new facility

531
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: that you've built yourself. You know, these are all things

532
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: that can play with you a little bit. And this

533
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: doesn't include you know, the hundreds of millions of dollars

534
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: that he's made off of his whiskey brand. All that

535
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: this is, this is a really tough thing to deal with,

536
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: you know, in a lot of ways, more money, more problems, right,

537
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: So I think that getting that passion back, I think

538
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: is a difficult thing. We will find out either, uh

539
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 3: to two ways this fight can go. He goes out

540
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: there and he wins quickly against Dustin Poorie, that won't

541
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: tell us if if Connor McGregor is back, If he

542
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: goes five hard rounds and it is a ward and

543
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: he wins in a battle of attrition and will in heart,

544
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: then that Connor McGregor is back, you know, And that

545
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: could be the case. You know, maybe he wins and

546
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: he still has that and we just don't know about it.

547
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: But to me, that Connor McGregor that defeated Chad Mendez,

548
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: that guy that brutally cut down one hundred and forty

549
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: five pounds, that had to travel travel cross country, I

550
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: believe to do it, go do interviews at ESPN and

551
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: Bristol and come back to Vegas to fight amidst that

552
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: horrible weight cut in that torn acl that torn me.

553
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: And he still won and he was he was getting

554
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: beat up and he kept, you know, getting back to

555
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: his feet and walking forward. If that dude shows up,

556
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 3: then every one hundred thty five pounder is in big trouble.

557
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just.

558
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: Don't know if that's going to be the guy that up.

559
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: And you're right, like, granted, Chad Mendez did not have

560
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 5: a full training campus. Stylistically, that was the right matchup

561
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 5: at the time. He had a torncl He's going coast

562
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: to coast and I understand, And Danny gave said, you know,

563
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 5: I'm not a guy that needs an extra little push,

564
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: but certainly Danny Gay's son Bam has provided whatever extra

565
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 5: little push. But generally speaking, if you can wait to

566
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 5: procreate until your fighting career is over, I strongly recommend that.

567
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: I just don't think having a bunch of babies around

568
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: if you're a man who feels any guilt, self inflicted

569
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: or otherwise, to contribute as a parent to your young children.

570
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: I can't even imagine what it's like as a mixed

571
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: martial arts athlete.

572
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 6: You know, I feel awful, just be in a way.

573
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: I'm not even fighting, so I can't even imagine the

574
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 5: sacrifice that all the fighters have to make. And I

575
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: do believe it can take away some of that primal

576
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: quality a little bit that helped a lot of these

577
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: guys along the way. So plenty more on that coming

578
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 5: up in the main event challenge, Cody. I understand you

579
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 5: have a question from last week on this fight from

580
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 5: one of our viewers Triggs Magoo John. What are you

581
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 5: expecting to be different in McGregor Poier three? Do you

582
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 5: think both men will have a vault game plan? So,

583
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 5: I think Dustin has a pretty good idea of what

584
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: he is going to do. I don't think that he's

585
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 5: gonna get away from throwing the calfkick, as he has

586
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: sort of intimated leading up to this fight. Dustin has

587
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: also intimated that he thinks Connor is gonna throw some

588
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 5: calf kicks.

589
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 6: We'll see, we'll see.

590
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 5: I think Connor has to address that weapon. Can he

591
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: namely just not have the leg be there. But I

592
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: do think that you're gonna see Dustin Poorier be a

593
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 5: little bit more measured. Early on in the fight. He

594
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 5: did go for a takedown about a minute in, So

595
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 5: I do believe that you're gonna see, not that he'll

596
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: be getting on his bicycle, but I do believe that

597
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 5: you'll see a little bit more of a measured approach

598
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 5: from Dustin Poorier early on in terms of adjustments on

599
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: the McGregor side. Kenny, given how big a factor that

600
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: calfkick was in that second meeting, is that something that

601
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: you think they need to address, Like right out of

602
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 5: the choot.

603
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: He better have he better have a couple things you

604
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: know when you want and I think we talked about

605
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: this on the podcast post that second fight, but the

606
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: wide are your bases right with as you're as your

607
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: legs get wider, the lower to the ground you're going

608
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: to be. That means you can generate more power from

609
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: the floor. That you'll see a lot of boxers who

610
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: like to hit hard, they'll sit right. That's where they say,

611
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: sit down in your punches. You lower your stance so

612
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 3: you can generate more power. The problem is when you

613
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: lower your stance and you get better stability to the floor,

614
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: you can't move as well.

615
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 7: Right.

616
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: The lower we get to the floor, you know, the

617
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: closer we are to the floor, but we don't get

618
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: as much speed right with our movement. So for him,

619
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: he's going it's probably going to be a fundamental change

620
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: in his stance. He's gonna have to be a little

621
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: bit more upright, He's gonna have to be a little

622
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: bit more bouncy to get in and get out. He's

623
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: gonna have to faint his way in way more than

624
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: he did against dust In the first time out, and

625
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: it's going to be more leg and hip fates. The

626
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: first time he was low to the ground, he was

627
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: kind of just creeping his way in. You're putting so

628
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: much weight on that leg, which means it's going to

629
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: be difficult for you to remove that leg. And if

630
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: it's difficult for you to remove that leg, Dustin Poier

631
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: is going to kick that leg. So there's so it's

632
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: a fascinating matchup. The approach is going to be amazing,

633
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: So really curious to see how that goes down.

634
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it is interesting too in terms of Pourrier's commitment, right,

635
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: and just all the trust and faith he has in

636
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 5: his training partners and the strategy and the game plan, right,

637
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: even when he had some compromising moments in that first round.

638
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 5: If you go back and watch the minute of round one,

639
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: you know, any chance he gets to just touch that

640
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: meat on that calf, you know, And there were three

641
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: or four times he landed towards the end of round

642
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: one and went right back to the well at the.

643
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 6: Beginning round two.

644
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 5: And he's just very disciplined, he stays the course, he's

645
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 5: exceedingly accurate. The right hand that sort of ended the fight.

646
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: I mean, man did not miss. So very excited to

647
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: see how it plays out obviously here in about five sleeps.

648
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 5: And I would also submit the fight Island atmosphere is

649
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: so surreal, right even though we had a few fans

650
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Speaker 5: in the building that I do think it stands to

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Speaker 5: reason that Connor and Dustin both could be could be

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Speaker 5: lifted up by this crowd and making the walk at

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Speaker 5: Team Mobile arena with a bunch of fans, It's just

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Speaker 5: going to be a much more normal fight setting. And

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Speaker 5: I think in particular when it comes to Connor McGregor,

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Speaker 5: that is something that could pay dividends. All right, So

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Speaker 5: I bought two Ray Longo minute t shirts and as

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Speaker 5: soon as I wear one, Ray Longo is not taking

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Speaker 5: his call.

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Speaker 6: So we're going to get to the pronunciation of the week.

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Speaker 6: We're going to make our picks.

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Speaker 5: In the main event challenge, and then we will try

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Speaker 5: to catch up with Ray Longo over the course of

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Speaker 5: the next forty five minutes. But Cody Marrow is our

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Speaker 5: executive producer and he is charged with trying to improve

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Speaker 5: his record of three and five in the pronunciation of

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Speaker 5: the week. This middleweight faces Trevin Giles this weekend in

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Speaker 5: a prelim fight on ESPN.

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Speaker 6: He is want to zero in.

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Speaker 5: The UFC and as of five days ago, Cody, nice

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Speaker 5: to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 6: I could not pronounce this man's name. This one's pretty difficult.

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Speaker 5: I think if you don't have the benefit of listening

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Speaker 5: to the file, good morning, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, And no I didn't listen to the file.

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Speaker 6: So you're not supposed to well good, I think, what

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Speaker 6: do you got?

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Speaker 4: This man's South African and so I think that's probably

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Speaker 4: why a lot of people get tripped up.

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Speaker 9: Trickis du place cease, drake is still knocks duplas. Come

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Speaker 9: on again, Drake us still knocks dupless.

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Speaker 6: C, du place c du plus c.

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Speaker 5: So we emphasize the last syllable, and it is dracus.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, when you butcher the first name, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Drake is still knocks duplas.

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Speaker 6: That's tricis.

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Speaker 7: Drake is still knocks du place.

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Speaker 2: That's tricks.

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Speaker 5: I voiced it as Dracus. Maybe I'm going to get

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Speaker 5: a call from uh well that we need to revoice.

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Speaker 4: It's due place Cee. I got that wrong, so all right,

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Speaker 4: and you want to know why I got wrong?

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Speaker 3: Hang on.

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Speaker 8: So I did not read the.

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Speaker 4: File or listening to the file, as is evident by

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Speaker 4: my terrible pronunciation.

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Speaker 8: But I went and watched.

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Speaker 4: South African cricket of a guy whose name is duplesis

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Speaker 4: play cricket. He actually got hit and has like brain

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Speaker 4: damage now, but I went and did the research.

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Speaker 6: So all right, sorry, well, I appreciate your contribution.

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Speaker 5: And again, if the listenership wants to lift you up

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Speaker 5: and uh and give you the win here, I have

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Speaker 5: no problem if they want to chime in cancel, let's

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Speaker 5: a no for me anyh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what is he like a French South

707
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Speaker 3: Africa dud dude? Plus see what's that? That was next

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Speaker 3: level hard dude.

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Speaker 4: That's what I get because I did the research. But

710
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Speaker 4: I sent John a family name meaning and it said

711
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Speaker 4: that it was like a French Huguenot name because it's

712
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Speaker 4: South African and so.

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Speaker 8: Like I just overthought it.

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Speaker 3: Man, this will.

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Speaker 4: Just buy a shirt, you don't you don't have to

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Speaker 4: argue for me, just buy shirts.

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Speaker 6: Funny because I'm trying to find something on my phone.

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Speaker 5: But my my daughter, Riley's middle name is Kate, but

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Speaker 5: it is short for Kazumiaida, which is a Polish name,

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Speaker 5: I believe, And so Riley looked up Kazumiida to find

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Speaker 5: out what her middle name meant. And and I can't

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Speaker 5: find it on my phone right now. But it's pretty morbid.

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Speaker 5: You can look it up. It's like it's not a

724
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Speaker 5: nice thing, but I can't find it on my phone

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Speaker 5: right now, So.

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Speaker 6: I digress, all right.

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Speaker 5: get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge.

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Speaker 6: Time is most.

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Speaker 2: Thy hi face fight?

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Speaker 6: How do you everything possible to.

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Speaker 1: Win the main event challenge to John Nnick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Podcast, all right, nothing quite like a main event challenge

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Speaker 5: during a Connor McGregor led pay per view fight week.

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Speaker 5: As we welcome in the Duck, Ian Parker on social media,

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Speaker 5: he is at Ian Parker m M. And I think

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Speaker 5: the best thing that happens to you is when we

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Speaker 5: give you a week off and we bring in one

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Speaker 5: of our great listeners to make picks. Because the avalanche

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Speaker 5: of support from the Anakim Florian podcast listeners is legitimate

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Speaker 5: for the duck.

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Speaker 6: I hope you feel that love.

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Speaker 8: I do. I do feel the love. It's funny whenever

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00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 8: I'm not on though, I get like a tweet or

777
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Speaker 8: something like, yo, did you get fired?

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00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: You quit?

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Speaker 8: Like what's going on?

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Speaker 3: I said no?

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Speaker 8: I said, Look, sometimes I get the week off. Sometimes

782
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 8: other people got to jump in. You know, they get

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Speaker 8: very they get very concerned my fellow ducklings, so they

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Speaker 8: don't want to see listen. They don't they don't like

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Speaker 8: for a week. Yeah, that sounded a really weird people

786
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Speaker 8: that I said that, But they don't like when I

787
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Speaker 8: leave for a week and then Kenny wins four to one.

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Speaker 8: That's just right, I think, Coacher bro.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's good to see you, and we have no

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Speaker 5: fewer than eight selections today at is UFC two sixty

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Speaker 5: four Pourier versus McGregor three as the UFC returns to

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Speaker 5: Tmobile Arena with fans for the first time since March

793
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty, and the first fight for US is

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00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 5: going to be a featherweight and it will feature Can

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Speaker 5: Flow in the red corner of Ryan Hall wearing a

796
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Speaker 5: Venom fight kit. But Ryan Hall is a plus one

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Speaker 5: eighty underdog here Ian against the undefeated minus two thirty

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00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 5: favorite Ilia. Kenny, I can assure you is not going

799
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Speaker 5: to tell us what they're gonna do or what they

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00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 5: need to do to hand Topodia his first loss. But

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Speaker 5: obviously this is a significant challenge for Team hall Ian.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with you.

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00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 5: Topoitia, some would say, prohibitively favored here against the dust

804
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 5: bar perfect in the UFC.

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00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 6: Ryan Hall, how do he handicap this one?

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Speaker 8: Oh man, I'm sorry, Kenny, Look this is so awkward

807
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 8: because this is your guy and cornered.

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00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

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Speaker 8: Look, I when I heard this matchup, I thought this

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Speaker 8: was a very bizarre one for Ryan Hall. To be honest,

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Speaker 8: I'm guessing due to the lack of opponents, people don't

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00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 8: want to fight him. Someone was willing to step off

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00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 8: a young guy who's a prospect. I just think that

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00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 8: Toporia is too much of an athlete physically gifted in

815
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 8: this situation. I don't think he should be this heavy

816
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 8: as a favorite. I find that to be a little

817
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 8: bizarre being what Ryan Hall has done, and it clearly

818
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 8: shows hall striking has come a long way to match

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 8: that wizardry on the ground. But I like to Pouria

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00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 8: here on a betting standpoint too high to bed it straight,

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Speaker 8: especially with Hall being so unpredicted predictable. I do think

822
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 8: to Porrio, though, we'll be able to shut that down.

823
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Speaker 8: So I'm gonna go with him here and I'll allow

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Speaker 8: Kenny to do the underdog and hopefully you win.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 8: I'll root for your guy one hundred percent, Kenny.

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Speaker 5: I'd imagine there are a lot of striking improvements that

828
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Speaker 5: Ryan Hall has made. He's talked in the past two

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Speaker 5: about just the standing grappling improvements that he's made in

830
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Speaker 5: clint situations and the like. He has one of the

831
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: craziest career resumes of all time. Pro debut and six

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Speaker 5: right which he lost and then he went like six

833
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: years before his second pro fight, but he's won eight

834
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Speaker 5: professional fights in a row, undefeated in the UFC, had

835
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Speaker 5: that exhibition loss on the Ultimate Fighter to Saul Rodgers,

836
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Speaker 5: which was a two round decision, But both of these

837
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Speaker 5: guys Kenny undefeated in the UFC. Something's got to give.

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00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: I know you're back in your guy, but what can

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Speaker 5: you tell us about what's in front of Ryan Hall

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Speaker 5: this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen. I think that Ilia is a legitimate problem

842
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: for a lot of people at one hundred and forty

843
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: five pounds, and wouldn't be surprised to see him sitting

844
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Speaker 3: in the top ten, top five at some point in

845
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: his career and potentially be a champion. I do think

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00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: he is that talented. He's a black belt in Brazilian jitsu.

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00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: He's an excellent wrestler, he's an excellent striker. There are

848
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: no known weaknesses in my opinion from him. I think

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00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: that he's a guy that loves to move forward and

850
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: loves to pressure, and you know, we've worked very hard,

851
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: very diligently, and trying to deal with all those problems

852
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: that he's going to present. I think that it's been

853
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: a little while since since Ryan has been in the octagon.

854
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: I think that is a great thing and also a

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00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: not a great thing, you know, for a lot of

856
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Speaker 3: people who haven't been able to see Ryan. But you know,

857
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: injuries aside. Ryan has been training throughout and I think

858
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: he's going to be able to show a lot of

859
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: those improvements.

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Speaker 5: I am going to be so fucking distracted with Kenny

861
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 5: in the corner. My boss is listened to this show,

862
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: so hopefully they'll hear that and give me a long

863
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 5: releaseh But I'm just gonna have all eyes on fucking

864
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Speaker 5: Ken Flow in a goddamn corner.

865
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Speaker 8: Yeah, in the corner. If you keep talking like this.

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Speaker 5: Right right, all right, next fight, Ian, We'll have you

867
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: lead off on this one. But rest asshirt. Ken Flow

868
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 5: is going to lead a lot of these fights down

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Speaker 5: the stretch at Welter. Wait, how about this one? Michelle

870
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: Padata minus one seventy seven. Nico Price in the room

871
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 5: next door right now, plus one forty thirteenth UFC start

872
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 5: for the thirty one year old father of five, Nico Price, who.

873
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 6: Is must see television.

874
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 5: I think the same can be said for the consummate

875
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 5: showman Michelle Pareta. Thirty seventh professional fight for the twenty

876
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: seven year old Michelle Patata. A couple of UFC wins

877
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 5: for him late in twenty twenty, Ian to give him

878
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 5: some momentum coming in about a two to one favorite

879
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 5: for Padata. Any value on Nico Price and ultimately, Ian,

880
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 5: which way are you going?

881
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 8: Is he really in the room next to you? Can

882
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 8: he hear this right now? I Likengo. He's a cool guy,

883
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 8: he's fun, He's a character. I think this is a

884
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 8: terrible matchup for him. I think Pereta, a focused one,

885
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 8: a disciplined one who doesn't do the circa sole a nonsense,

886
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 8: is legitimately can be a top five guy in this division.

887
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 8: His size is both these guys are big of the division,

888
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 8: but he carries it a little bit differently. His striking

889
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 8: is very precise and he's a BlackBelt resilive jiu jitsu.

890
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 8: If you know and his card, you'll I mean, we

891
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 8: finally saw in that last fight. I like that we

892
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 8: saw three rounds out of him. He didn't get tired,

893
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 8: and Chaos Williams pushes pushes forward. You see what Chaos

894
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 8: can do in a three round fight. You know, Niko

895
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 8: is a wild guy, but sometimes too comfortable on his back,

896
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 8: willing to throw crazy stuff to compromise his position. I

897
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 8: like Parreeta here. I thought he was going to be

898
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 8: a heavier favorite. I actually think he's in one of

899
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 8: the better plays in the night betwise value. People might

900
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 8: think I'm crazy for saying that. I think that if

901
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 8: he's composed and disciplined and doesn't act like a huge

902
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 8: a hole with the flips, he's so dangerous and I'm

903
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 8: going that way.

904
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: I think you set that up well, Ian, and I

905
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: think everything that you say kind of dovetails with what

906
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: Pareta said leading into his last two fights in terms

907
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: of discipline. Coming to Vegas, leaning on the UFCPI Patata

908
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: Kenny wants to prove to Dana White and Shawn Shelby

909
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: and the fan base that he can actually have some

910
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 5: staying power and not just be an entertainer. And I

911
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 5: would also point to that Chaos Williams fight right the

912
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 5: two takedowns late. I mean he had plenty left in

913
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 5: the tank, and I thought he had a dominant third

914
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 5: round there. Kenny, what do you think about Patata here

915
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 5: about minus one eighty against Nico the hybrid price?

916
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: You know, to me, the odds look right. I think

917
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: that Padata is the favorite for a reason. Not a

918
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: whole lot of disagreement here with what Ian said. I

919
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: think that it's Padata's fight to lose. I think he's

920
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: the better fighter here. I do think that Nico is dangerous,

921
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: has some power, has the ability to maybe grind out

922
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: around here and there. Is he going to be able

923
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: to do that against Padata enough to where he can

924
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: get a decision win? I don't think so. I think

925
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: that Padata is such a gifted striker and he's one

926
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: of the one of the elite. I think, in my mind,

927
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: I think this is one of those fights that you know,

928
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: given what Nico has done and seeing how dangerous he

929
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: can be, if he makes it look easy here and

930
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: is able to win with relative ease, then I think

931
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: the Skuy's limit for a Potta.

932
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 6: This card is so good, right I.

933
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: You look at this batch of these ESPN prelims, and

934
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: that brings us to the feature to preliminary contest Carlos Condit,

935
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 5: Max Griffin, Ken Flow.

936
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 6: Well have you lead here?

937
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 5: Max Griffin minus one ninety the natural Born Killer Carlos

938
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: Condit plus one fifty. So Max Griffin is five and

939
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 5: six in the UFC. He's thirty five years old. But

940
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: yet when I watch him fight at times, I feel

941
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: like he's a guy who looks like he could make

942
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 5: a run if he put it all together. He's got

943
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: two straight wins and obviously getting a huge matchup and

944
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 5: fight here in the fan favorite and former interim champ

945
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: Carlos Condit, Kenny Florian Griffin Condit, Who do you have?

946
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is a tough one for me. I think

947
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: that both of these guys have been pretty inconsistent to

948
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: what we've seen from them. It's hard to tell what

949
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: Carlo's Condit is going to show up. For me, I

950
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: think that he's a guy who has a tremendous amount

951
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: of talent. I think that if his footwork is on uh,

952
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: he should be able to win this fight. It's a

953
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: close one. I think Griffin for me, probably has more firepower,

954
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: and I think Condits is probably the better overall grapper grappler,

955
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 3: perhaps Griffin is the better wrestler here. So this is

956
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: this is a close one that could go a few

957
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: different ways. You can argue that Griffin is the fresher fighter,

958
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, years wise, but I don't know. I think

959
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: that you know, condit's been fighting a long time. But

960
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: I do think, you know, his last performance showed some promise.

961
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: I do think that you know, he started to get

962
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: his bearings back a little bit and we're seeing some

963
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: flashes of brilliance for him. I'll go with Carlos Condit here.

964
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 5: Cantler likes Carlos Cottt plus one fifty. When you see

965
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 5: me look at my phone, just know it's either something

966
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: going on with my kids or so. I had to

967
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 5: come out here early. So I was supposed to go

968
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: to the eye doctor today. Now, I don't know if

969
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: you guys care about this or not, right I literally

970
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: these contacts are fucking bleeding my eyes right now. So

971
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get contact lenses overnighted to last.

972
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 8: Even though you had contacts. That's a new one, form,

973
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 8: MELI I am.

974
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of contacts make my eyes red too, John,

975
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 4: That's fine.

976
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 5: Well, no, but so I've been wearing these for like yeah, right, Hey,

977
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: I haven't even been to the goddamn dispensary yet. Okay,

978
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 5: but my eyes are bleeding because these lenses I've been

979
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: wearing for three weeks and they're two week lenses.

980
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 6: So I was just trying to coordinate.

981
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get my wife to send lenses to

982
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: one of my coworkers in Vegas. And that's why I was.

983
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 5: I was listening, but I wasn't looking all right. Content

984
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: plus one fifty for Ken Chloean, what do you think?

985
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't love that play. I understand why, you know.

986
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 8: I also think Kenny's friends with a lot of guys

987
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 8: that he was fighting with, and Kenny is one of

988
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 8: the smarter ones that got out before. Listen, Kenny, I

989
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 8: love you, bro. I know exactly what you're doing over there.

990
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 8: I get it.

991
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: You know.

992
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 8: Here, here's the thing with con It's hard for me

993
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 8: to really gauge where he's at when going four losses

994
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 8: in a row, beating a Court McGee who didn't throw

995
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 8: more than three strikes, beating a Matt Brown that was

996
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 8: very hesitant in that fight. You know, Matt Brown didn't

997
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 8: throw a lot in his last fight. He landed that

998
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 8: one punch to knock out Lima. I just think a

999
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 8: guy in Griffin here is going to be too much pressure,

1000
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 8: too much output, too much of a pace. And with

1001
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 8: the wrestling grappling, Kenny's right, you know, Carlos comments to

1002
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 8: better jiu jitsu practitioner, better grappler, But when he gets

1003
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 8: placed on his back because of that, that's kind of

1004
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 8: also his achilles heel. He likes to sit there. He

1005
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 8: doesn't really throw up too many submissions, you know, He's

1006
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 8: just comfortable not getting submitted. And Griffin has no problem

1007
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 8: sitting in the guard and controlling and raining down punches

1008
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 8: and strikes. I like Griffin here, I don't love it

1009
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 8: because he also makes a lot of mistakes in his fights,

1010
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 8: getting a little too over zealous with some of his

1011
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 8: wild throws and punches. But if he fights smart and

1012
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 8: another guy who, if he stays disciplined, is a really

1013
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 8: still a good prospect, even though he's been around for

1014
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 8: a bit. So I'll go with Griffin here.

1015
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 5: Max Griffin did just welcome a baby boy, Tyrus Jacks

1016
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 5: Griffin on February twenty seventh, but he slept during training

1017
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: camp when we talked to him a fighter meeting here

1018
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: in a couple days, all right, at bantamweight guys Sean

1019
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 5: O'Malley I in huge price here minus eight thirty five.

1020
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 6: Of course he was to face Lewis Smoca.

1021
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 5: Instead he fights the new Englander, the short notice UFC

1022
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: newcomer Chris Motino, who is plus five twenty five, stepping

1023
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 5: up here for the staff infected Hawaiian Smoka and making

1024
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 5: his debut as a huge underdog against Shaan O'Malley, who

1025
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 5: is thirteen and one and coming off a knockout of

1026
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 5: Thomas Almeida earlier this year at UFC to sixty IP,

1027
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 5: who do you have?

1028
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 8: I was really hoping Morob was going to take that

1029
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 8: replacement fight. They would give him a little Phil Dawes treatment.

1030
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 8: Morob goes in, wins, no damage, still fights Marl Morice

1031
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 8: in a couple of months. To me, that would have

1032
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 8: been the right play Listen, this division has so much depth.

1033
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 8: Looking at these looking at these rankings, O'Malley, what is

1034
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 8: a fifteen? It's kind of crazy, But again he's fighting

1035
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 8: someone a newcomer. I think this is a very weird

1036
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 8: fight to accept. I don't see what he gains from

1037
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 8: this unless he gets like a crazy knockout in ten seconds.

1038
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 8: You got to pick him in this fight. He's been

1039
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 8: training this whole time. I don't know what this other

1040
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 8: guy has, you know, on such short notice, So I'll

1041
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 8: go Malley. But hey, I'll root for an upset here.

1042
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 8: That would be quite a storyline.

1043
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean Ken Flow. The regional film is

1044
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: out there on Chris Motino. I think he's two and

1045
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: two under the CES banner over his last four, but

1046
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 5: he has won two in a row. What are your

1047
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: thoughts on what's in front of Sean O'Malley this weekend?

1048
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I think that for Sean, this is a

1049
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: fight that he should most likely win, and win pretty easily.

1050
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: I think that Sean Sean is definitely a very talented striker.

1051
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: He's a very good fighter, and I think he'll most

1052
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: likely look very good in this one.

1053
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 5: All right, you guys have my focus Now My context

1054
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: are being overnighted to our UFC producer Mike. There we go,

1055
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: all is well, that ends well, but I just had

1056
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 5: to we need John to see. I'm telling you, I'm

1057
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 5: so nervous right, I'm literally having nightmares about waking up

1058
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 5: and having to wear glasses on television.

1059
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 6: All right, big ques, what's.

1060
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: That fall River picking against fall Rive? Kid?

1061
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 4: You guys better not show your faces around Boston anytime soon, telling.

1062
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 5: You fucking fall River's fine as t shatre As. I

1063
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: always tell her. If t Shatoris breaks through and wins

1064
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 5: the title, we're claiming her born in fall River. All right,

1065
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: big fight here for the women at bandam waight top

1066
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 5: five contenders A rain A Aldonna minus one twenty five.

1067
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: Yana Kunitskaya is the even money underdog at plus one hundred,

1068
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 5: and I think Yana really seems to be coming into

1069
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: her own two straight wins four or five since she

1070
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 5: fought Cyborg for the title at featherweight in her UFC debut.

1071
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 5: Al Donna came up short Ian as you well know

1072
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 5: when she stepped up a level against Holly Holm over

1073
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 5: five rounds last October. Here all Donna is favored IP.

1074
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: What do you think about this one at one hundred

1075
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 5: and thirty five pounds.

1076
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 8: I like I ran at Donna here, I really do.

1077
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 8: I still think she's a solid prospect, you know, one

1078
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 8: of the better strikers in the division. Like in pure boxing,

1079
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 8: we've seen her on the ground, so Yanna, it's pretty

1080
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 8: much clear, stay off the cage, don't let her clench

1081
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 8: her else she's gonna hold you there and dirty box

1082
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 8: you for the entire fight and do nothing else because

1083
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 8: and that's what she's good at, and that's okay, Like

1084
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 8: I understand it. You know, against some of these other

1085
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 8: fighters with less experience, she's been able to implement that

1086
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 8: plan and do really well. I just don't think against

1087
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 8: al Donna she's going to get too close. I think

1088
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 8: al Donna knows how to use her jab, she knows

1089
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 8: how to really keep the distance, and I think she'll

1090
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 8: be able to do that for at least two rounds

1091
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 8: and get the win. My only concern is that the

1092
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 8: first round that she gets clenched up, because she won't

1093
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 8: be a sweat and she'll be held there and she'll

1094
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 8: have to come back. But we've seen her do it before.

1095
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 8: I think she's gonna be the way better striker. I

1096
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 8: like her in this one. I'm surprised the odds are

1097
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 8: this low. I think it's kind of a gift, to

1098
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 8: be honest, I would have had her at minus one

1099
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 8: sixty five. So I like.

1100
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: Arena a donnad here all right, sounds like a straight

1101
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: way drawn al Donna for Ian Parker Kenny, what do

1102
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 5: you have on this one?

1103
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like al Donna as well. I think that

1104
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: she's the better striker for sure. I think that's where

1105
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: she needs to keep it. Utilize that reach keeper on

1106
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: the outside, pepper from the outside, don't get over confident

1107
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: because Kanitsky is very tough and will not go away easily.

1108
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, if she could, you know, defend that clinch,

1109
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: stop the takedowns. I like al Donna here. I was

1110
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: a little disappointed with al Donna's last performance against Hallwy Holme,

1111
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: but I think it was certainly a fight where she

1112
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 3: learned a lot. Holme looked fantastic. So yeah, I like

1113
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: all Donna here.

1114
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 5: And ultimately we're trying to win money for the listeners

1115
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: and the viewers, right Like, I'm not giving you an

1116
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: opinion on this fight, but I would just tell the listenership,

1117
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 5: like if ken Flow and Ian both land on a

1118
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: side that's like minus one twenty five and there's some

1119
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 5: sort of conviction, Like I'm literally pausing the fucking podcast

1120
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: and going to Batana right now, So we'll see if

1121
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: that number stays in that minus one twenty five range

1122
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 5: at clothes sorry at heavyweight. Very curious to see where

1123
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 5: you guys are going to fall here. Ken Flow will

1124
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 5: lead it off with you. Ty to Ivasa is the

1125
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 5: favorite minus one forty three against Greg Hardy, who comes

1126
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: back at plus one point fifteen. Hardy stopped by Mark

1127
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 5: Sheen Tabora his last time out. That was December of

1128
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 5: twenty twenty. The shoey Vasa. Ty to Evasa has won

1129
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: two in a row after that three fight skid. I

1130
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: like this matchup. I like the timing of it for

1131
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 5: both guys. Kenny, who do you think emerges ty to

1132
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: Evasa or the Prince of War Greg Hart? I think

1133
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: both are capable of finishing the fight.

1134
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: I do think Hardy obviously with his firepower, you know,

1135
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: could hurt touy Vasa. But if tuiy Vasa throws his

1136
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: best shot, I think he knocks out Greg Hardy. If

1137
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: Greg Hardy throws his best shot, he maybe knocks out

1138
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: Tai Toyvasa. You know, tooy Vasa just has a chin

1139
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: from hell. I think that you know, he's he looks

1140
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: lighter on his feet to me, he's throwing more weapons.

1141
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: He's not just forcing a knockout. It seems like he's

1142
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: more patient, he's more comfortable in the octagon. He's maturing

1143
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: despite drinking beer out of weird people's shoes, right and

1144
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: stinky shoes. He is maturing. So I like to bossa here,

1145
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 3: I think I think he wins this here. But whoever

1146
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: wins this, and however this plays out, it's gonna be

1147
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: an exciting fight. I think there's no other way this

1148
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 3: thing goes down. But it being a kind of a

1149
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: sloby knocker.

1150
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 5: So many of our listeners know, I've done a shoey

1151
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 5: vasa or a shoey on the air on the Anakin

1152
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 5: Flooring podcast, But like it was my own spit and

1153
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 5: my own shoe, right, Like someone else's fucking loogie in

1154
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 5: someone else's shoe that they do fungus.

1155
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: Fungus ringworm filled shoe.

1156
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, at like and they've been wearing it to a

1157
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 5: UFC live event, right, so if they tailgated first, right, Ian?

1158
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I know none of us are big drinkers

1159
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 5: per se in this room, but I don't know someone

1160
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 5: else is spitting in someone else's shoe.

1161
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 6: That's a no for me.

1162
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't really drink at all, let alone. Why,

1163
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't. I don't know why this is.

1164
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 8: I don't know why this is like a cool thing.

1165
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 8: I'm so confused, Like me, it is just gross, Like

1166
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 8: if you're in college and you're hammerred and gotta eat

1167
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 8: like a jar of mao and do something stupid, Like

1168
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 8: all right, you can blame it on that, but like,

1169
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 8: can you just like wait and have it out of

1170
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 8: the glass or drink out of the bottle like a

1171
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 8: random person shoe like you even forget COVID, Like it's.

1172
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 6: Just I don't guess.

1173
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 5: Did you guys see yesterday at the Nathan's Hot Dog

1174
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 5: Eating Contest, they had the inaugural chugging champion.

1175
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 8: The lemonade.

1176
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: Yes, the lemonade.

1177
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: Dude brow for putting down a gallon of lemon Like nothing, dude, Look.

1178
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 8: But he looks like he's a lot for the winter.

1179
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 8: He's a big boy. He's a big boy. They practice that.

1180
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: There's a lot of course, And I do think that

1181
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: if you show up to a chugging competition having like

1182
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: run five miles dehydrated, I mean you could put down

1183
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: some liquid, no doubt. But man, if you haven't seen it,

1184
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: it's on my Twitter feed. Go watch this dude put

1185
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: down a gallon of lemonade, like.

1186
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 3: Shout to Joey Chestnut too.

1187
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 6: By the way, seventy six hot dogs.

1188
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 5: I can't watch that over fifty thousand milligrams of sodium.

1189
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 8: Howling out we're concerned about the sodium. To me, it's

1190
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 8: eating more than like two hot dogs in the heat

1191
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 8: with nothing. I'll just it's so nasty.

1192
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 5: Toilet I want to I'm curious what doctor Florian feels about.

1193
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 6: All of this.

1194
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 5: Can't be great for your long term health. I and

1195
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: I don't believe you gave us a pick on Tooey

1196
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 5: Boss and Greg Hardy.

1197
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 6: Yet who do you have and.

1198
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 8: Again a chance I'll go uh, I'm more excited about

1199
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 8: this lemonade hot dog combo. But I like TUIs Vasa here.

1200
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 8: I I just think that what he is doing lately,

1201
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 8: like at Aka, you know, new gym training's taking it seriously.

1202
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 8: He's not just going in there playing rocking soccer robots,

1203
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 8: you know. I think he just has more elements and

1204
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 8: levels to his game than Hardy, does, you know? Between

1205
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 8: the clinch and as long as he could just stay

1206
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 8: away from the power of Hardy, which he could also

1207
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 8: take a shot, I do think he gets it done.

1208
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 8: I like toui vasa.

1209
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 5: I do think as we hit the midpoint of twenty

1210
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: twenty one and we are still without a punishment for

1211
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 5: the main event challenge, I do think that whoever loses

1212
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 5: between you two should have to shave their beard. But

1213
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 5: if you guys are not willing, then maybe we'll do

1214
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 5: some sort of chugging competition. But Ken full like that beard.

1215
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess it depends on your TV schedule. Ian,

1216
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 5: would you be willing to shave your beard if you lost?

1217
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: All?

1218
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 7: Right?

1219
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 6: Say no more?

1220
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 8: I mean, well, hold on, no, no, no, I should say

1221
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 8: yes because I'm not going to lose.

1222
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 6: Right, you got to say it. I like, I.

1223
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 8: Cleaned this up for TV, so does Kenny. But I'm

1224
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 8: not losing. So look, I'll shave my eyebrows. I'll shave

1225
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 8: my beard. Kenny shaved your eyebrows.

1226
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no eyebrows. If I have a little break

1227
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: in the television schedule, and you know, I would do it.

1228
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that my loved ones around me without beard.

1229
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 8: But I have like a fat face even when I'm skinny,

1230
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 8: Like he's got a skinny face.

1231
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 3: Oh I look, we I look weird now without with that,

1232
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: but it's like shaving cream in a straight raisor on

1233
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: your face, like we're not trimming it. Yeah, no, exactly.

1234
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, at some point in time we're going to

1235
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: have to figure out astonishment here.

1236
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 6: But it is seventy six to sixty all right.

1237
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 5: Co main event two former World welterweight title challenges. Fourth

1238
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 5: ranks Stephen wonder Boy Thompson minus one fifty five, second

1239
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 5: ranked Gilbert daren Yo Burns's plus one twenty five seventeen

1240
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: UFC appearance for both men, one of them is eleven

1241
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 5: to four and one, the other is twelve and four.

1242
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 5: The betting line has been bouncing around a little bit

1243
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 5: on DraftKings, so you may want to selectively fire here.

1244
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 5: Thompson was minus one eighty six gnawed all that long ago.

1245
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 5: As of this taping, Kenny, he is minus one fifty

1246
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 5: five Gilbert Burns coming off the title loss to Kamara Ousman.

1247
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: Thompson has won two in a row.

1248
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 5: He is thirty eight years old, but has looked out

1249
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: standing of late comin event.

1250
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 6: Burns Thompson ken flow. Who do you have?

1251
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I wouldn't want to be fighting Gilbert Burns

1252
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: coming off that loss against Uzman. I think that Gilbert

1253
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: Burns will be fired up. I think he chose the

1254
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: one and only training partner, the best training partner you

1255
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: can hire and bring into camp, and that's Raymond Daniels.

1256
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: I've worked with Raymond. He's a brilliant karate fighter, one

1257
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: of the best strikers on the planet. That's the kind

1258
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: of guy you need if you want to beat a

1259
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. Now can he do it? Is

1260
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: it enough to do it in a short amount of time?

1261
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. The good thing for Gilbert Burns is

1262
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: that he's not a one trick pony. He's not just

1263
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 3: a striker, and he's not just a jiu jitsu guy.

1264
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: These days, he has knockout power in his hands. We've

1265
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: seen that he does have solid takedowns. He has some

1266
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: of the best jiu jitsu in that division, and he's

1267
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 3: got a great great training partners. He's got a great camp. However,

1268
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: one doesn't just beat Steven WonderBoy Thompson in one training camp.

1269
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: You need probably seven training camps and training for Steven

1270
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: wonder Boy Thompson. Unfortunately, I think can he sure will he?

1271
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. I think Stephen

1272
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: wonder Boy Thompson wins this with his footwork, his ability

1273
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: to get in and get out. He's such a tricky

1274
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: guy to deal with. It's one thing to train for it,

1275
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: it's another thing to see it happening live for real

1276
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: at Steven WonderBoy Thompson speed in front of your face.

1277
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: So I think that wonder Boy wins this. I still

1278
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: think he has it. I still think he's the only

1279
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: striker who could potentially beat Uzman. That's my opinion. So

1280
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: I love, I love the fight, but I do think

1281
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: that wonder Boy wins a decision against Gilbert.

1282
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 5: All right, Stephen wonder Boy Thompson by decision. And obviously

1283
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 5: I'm in South Florida with Gilbert Burns. I work out

1284
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 5: with his strength and conditioning coaches. Notice I didn't use

1285
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: the verb train. I don't train with those guys. I

1286
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: work out with them. Okay, let's be clear. But as

1287
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 5: much as I love Raymond Daniels like to me, I

1288
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: think Gilbert needs a floor fight. Like as powerful as

1289
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 5: he is, I think he needs to pursue a floor

1290
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Speaker 5: fight at all costs. You guys are the experts, not me,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know, man. I just think Stephen WonderBoy

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Speaker 5: Thompson is a challenge unlike any other in this sport.

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Speaker 5: And I agree largely with a lot of what Ken

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Speaker 5: Flow said. Certainly, Gilbert Burns is a five tool player,

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 5: and do you think he has enough to get past

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Speaker 5: wonder Boy this week?

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Speaker 8: I actually don't like this matchup following the Usmann fight,

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Speaker 8: to be honest. I just think that wonder boys takedown

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01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 8: defense is so underrated and so improved over the years.

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Speaker 8: And I think he's just a smart fighter who trains

1301
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Speaker 8: really well. He stays in shape year round, you know,

1302
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Speaker 8: and his striking is very unpredictable. Second and none, Raymond

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 8: DALs is phenomenal, But the Kenny's point training with it

1304
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 8: for X amount of weeks and compared to someone who's

1305
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Speaker 8: been actually implementing that style for years, it's like night

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Speaker 8: and day. You know, it's for me. WonderBoy, the way

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Speaker 8: he fights, he's not looking for the knockout. If it

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Speaker 8: comes within his flow of strikes, that's how it does.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't force it. I think that's Gilbert's problem. I

1310
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 8: think he comes in like a bowl. He forces it,

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Speaker 8: and that's what kind of gets him gassed a little

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Speaker 8: bit too, Like if he doesn't land that knockout, he

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Speaker 8: gets picked apart, you know, and he has to get

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Speaker 8: this fight to the floor. If he doesn't put Wonder

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Speaker 8: Boy in his back, he loses straight up. I grew

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Speaker 8: with Kenny here. I think it's wonder Boy.

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Speaker 5: By decision, all right, both guys like Steven Wonder Boy

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Speaker 5: Thompson by decision. And again, the price at least on

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01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 5: DraftKings sportsbook right now a lot better than it was

1320
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Speaker 5: about forty eight hours ago. And I do think divisionally speaking, right,

1321
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Speaker 5: I know Kamara Usman a times has called out Michael Kiesa,

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01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 5: you know, he wanted that Jorge mosfiinal rematch, and Wonder

1323
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 5: Boy kind of understood that he was going to have

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 5: to take a fight. But if Stephen Wonder Boy Thompson

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 5: wins this fight, with respect to to Colby Covington and

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Speaker 5: Leon Edwards, I think that the fight that a lot

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01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 5: of fans are going to be interested to see.

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Speaker 6: To Kenny's point, is Ousman and.

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Speaker 5: Steve I'm you know, all right, main event at UFC

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Speaker 5: two sixty four. Ian, I'm gonna have you lead here.

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Speaker 5: Dustin Pourier minus one thirty Connor McGregor plus one oh eight.

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 5: Huge legacy fight for both men and of course for

1333
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor, as we mentioned off the top of the show,

1334
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Speaker 5: trying to avoid going to one and three at one

1335
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five pounds in the UFC. A win

1336
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 5: is going to set up a championship opportunity Ian for

1337
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 5: both guys. I would think against the undisputed king Charles

1338
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 5: du bronx Oli of Era, a lot of.

1339
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 6: Pressure on both men.

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 5: Seven months after their second meeting, Ian Parker died to

1341
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 5: know who you think in too main event and ultimately

1342
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Speaker 5: how they get it?

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Speaker 8: Cody, would you mind just replaying my breakdown from the

1344
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 8: last fight so it could save me the time because

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Speaker 8: I'm doing the exact same thing here. I think it's

1346
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 8: Justin Poorier, I do. I think it's Dustin Pooria. I

1347
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 8: don't really see why that changes. Connor's posting pictures and

1348
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 8: videos of riding a bike in the street and flexing

1349
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 8: means nothing. That's what he does. I don't think they've

1350
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Speaker 8: brought anybody in to challenge.

1351
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Speaker 7: Him in the gym.

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Speaker 8: I think it's been Connor's biggest problem having Dylan Dannis

1353
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 8: there as his jiu jitsu coach. Fine, but who is

1354
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 8: there that's a better striker in that camp? Wit when

1355
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 8: excuse me?

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Speaker 4: I excuse me, Ian Artum Lobof, Like, can we just

1357
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 4: not disrespect to go on this podcast?

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Speaker 6: That's all I have to say. I love I.

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Speaker 8: COO cool, great, you know what. I'm taking Connor because

1360
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Speaker 8: of Cody. Look, I just like I said, the calf kicks,

1361
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Speaker 8: the combinations, and Dustin has now felt Connor's power. He

1362
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 8: knows what he's got to do, he's got to stay

1363
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 8: away from and he can mix in the takedowns. Connor

1364
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 8: can try and play the mind games. Oh, let's box,

1365
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Speaker 8: Let's see who it is. Dustin's like, listen, this is

1366
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 8: m m A. This is why I'm the better fighter.

1367
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 8: I think if Dustin wins championship, I think if Connor wins,

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 8: I don't think Connor fights all of Aristell. I don't

1369
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 8: think Connor wants that fight. I think if Connor wins,

1370
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 8: I think he maybe wants the maybe like a mas

1371
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 8: Vidal or some sort of like legend, bigger pay fight.

1372
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 8: But for me, Dustin wins gets a title shot, Connor

1373
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 8: loses Nate Diaz trilogy, and there it is uh man,

1374
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 8: I don't think Dustin gets it done a round two though,

1375
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 8: I'll give Connor a little bit more on that one.

1376
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say round three t k O by Dustin.

1377
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 5: All Right, Ian Parker likes Dustin Pourier by round three

1378
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 5: t KO you can't flow your mic?

1379
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 6: Is hot?

1380
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 7: Kid?

1381
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 6: What do you have?

1382
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Listen, It's wouldn't be a huge surprise if Dustin

1383
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: wins this fight. I think that for me, I think

1384
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: I struggle with is it me wanting to see, you know,

1385
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: vintage Connor, the creative Connor, the Marshall artist, Connor McGregor.

1386
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: Is that too far gone? I don't know. I would

1387
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: like to think that it's not. I would like to

1388
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: think that Connor McGregor is coming back because he still

1389
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: wants to fight, and he genuinely has that passion and

1390
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: he wants to right the wrong. When you look at

1391
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: his last fight, as we talked about earlier in the show,

1392
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: this wasn't a situation where Connor just got his ass kick.

1393
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: He was winning this fight. This is no disrespect to

1394
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: Dustin Poorier. Dustin Poier is the more consistent fighter. He's

1395
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: the guy that you can rely on that he will

1396
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: fight to the death no matter what. He is the

1397
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: guy that you can know that he put in that

1398
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 3: work for a training camp. So it seems contradictory that

1399
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: I'm going with Connor McGregor here. But Connor McGregor is

1400
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: the more talented fighter. He is the more talented striker.

1401
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: He is the guy who has more weapons on the

1402
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: feet if he uses them, if he has learned from

1403
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: his last fight against Dustin Poirier. I assume that he has.

1404
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: I would like to think that he has, and I

1405
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: would like to think that when the going gets tough,

1406
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: that that old Connor McGregor shows up and decides to

1407
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: fight to the death or to fight to the very

1408
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: end and not give up like he did against Chad Mendez.

1409
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 3: So I think it's not going to be an easy effort,

1410
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: but I do think that Connor McGregor gets it done.

1411
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: I will go with Connor McGregor by third round TKO wow.

1412
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: Because and the other thing is, you know, how many

1413
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: times do you get Connor McGregor at an underdog against

1414
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: a guy who you know he matches up well against.

1415
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: You know, listen, and again, Dustin is going to be

1416
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 3: a tough out, and I think he's the more consistent guy,

1417
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: but Connor at underdog odds, I'm gonna go for it.

1418
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 5: No, I can understand that line of thinking. I I

1419
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 5: do have an inkling as to who I think is

1420
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 5: gonna win the fight. Obviously, because I'm calling it, I'm

1421
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 5: not gonna share it. But I just can't get past

1422
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 5: this number that if Dustin Pourier wins this fight, he'll

1423
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 5: have twelve UFC.

1424
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 6: Lightweight wins to McGregor's won.

1425
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 5: Like, I know Connor is the former first simultaneous double chant,

1426
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 5: but like, we need to put some respect on Dustin

1427
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 5: Poier's name when it comes to this Hall of Fame discussion.

1428
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 5: And you can be sure I'll do my part on

1429
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 5: the broadcast this weekend if he is able to get

1430
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 5: it done. All right, on social media, you can find

1431
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 5: the duck at Ian Parker MMA, and I have a

1432
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 5: surprise for you this weekend. I have special duck sucks. Okay,

1433
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 5: let me go grab them real quick.

1434
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: Hang on, I can't wait to see these things, all right.

1435
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 6: So here's so.

1436
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 5: Because I'm gonna see Kenny for the first time in

1437
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 5: two years, so I bought these as a present for Ian. Okay,

1438
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: see the duck tack right, So, and I was gonna

1439
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 5: give these to Kenny to give to Ian because you

1440
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 5: guys will probably see each other before I do. But

1441
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 5: then I thought, maybe I'll surprise Ee and I'll wear

1442
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 5: these on Friday on UFC Live and I'll shout them

1443
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 5: out in my Instagram story.

1444
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 6: So I don't know, can you.

1445
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 8: Wear them on your hands during the broadcast?

1446
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 6: Well?

1447
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 5: Either way, just know that I bought these as a

1448
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 5: tribute to my boy, and I will wear them this

1449
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 5: weekend in your honor, and then I'll wash them and

1450
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 5: give him to Ken phone you can have that you, Yeah, exactly, Ip.

1451
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 5: I liked the little cameo there by Ryder Parker. Thanks

1452
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 5: for the time today, and we're turning and burning next

1453
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 5: Monday for Tiago Boys s and Islama Kashev.

1454
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Speaker 6: So enjoy the pay per view.

1455
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 5: Uh, don't be a stranger, don't be afraid to text

1456
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 5: me and we'll talk to you next week.

1457
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: You got the man, see it all right?

1458
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 5: Ian Parker with the main event challenge? Yeah, I can

1459
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 5: see why you went Connor man, I really can't, you know.

1460
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 6: Very interesting to.

1461
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 5: See how the main event plays out and one guy

1462
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Speaker 5: who obviously will have some thoughts on this is odds

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Speaker 5: Shark's Joe Osborne.

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Speaker 6: Let us get to the pic to click.

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Speaker 1: Time now for the pic to click.

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Speaker 2: All I have to do is bet on the winner

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Speaker 2: and I'll never remember.

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Speaker 5: forget the second s. His energy is infectious. His hair

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Speaker 5: looks really good today too.

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Speaker 6: By the way. On social media Twitter, JT f o

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Speaker 6: The Great Joel Osborne.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, Good morning fellas. It's hard to compete with

1484
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Speaker 10: Kenny in the hair department, but thankfully Yeah discovered it

1485
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 10: makes me look pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it. Thank you for the compliment, John, I

1487
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Speaker 2: appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: You do not look like a father of young children. Look,

1489
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 5: it's a big weekend, as you see. I'm already here

1490
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 5: in Vegas because of that hurricane threat in Florida, so

1491
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 5: we're ready to go. I know you've got some thoughts

1492
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 5: on the top three fights, so I want in with

1493
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 5: the main event.

1494
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 6: And these odds have bounced around a little bit.

1495
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 5: I know when I first reached out to you, actually

1496
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 5: about ten days ago, it looked like Connor McGregor was

1497
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 5: a slight favorite. Now in most spots, at least where

1498
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 5: I look, Dustin Poorier is a slight favorite. What can

1499
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 5: you tell us about this main event and ultimately where

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Speaker 5: your action may fall.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's close, right, and I am a little

1502
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 10: bit surprised with the line movement here, but you can really.

1503
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: Make a great case for either guy.

1504
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 10: For McGregor, the situation is kind of similar to the

1505
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 10: Nate Diaz fights and that you know that first DS fight,

1506
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 10: he seemed to underestimate him and that really backfire.

1507
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: He ends up getting finished in the second round.

1508
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,440
Speaker 10: And I think he did underestimate Poorier back in January.

1509
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 10: You know, it seemed like he just thought it was

1510
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 10: a foregone conclusion that he was just going to walk

1511
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 10: right through him. Ends up getting finished in the second round.

1512
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 10: He did, however, bounce back really good for the second

1513
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 10: DS fight, came out with a great game plan, ends

1514
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 10: up picking up the w So there's some similarities there

1515
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 10: in terms of the situation. Also, if you pick McGregor

1516
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 10: in this fight in January, those same reasons still very

1517
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 10: much much exists coming into this fight. McGregor still one

1518
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 10: of the best offensive fighters in the spot. Poorier is

1519
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 10: a guy who does tend to get hit a lot, right,

1520
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 10: and we do see him in these firefights. So those reasons,

1521
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 10: you know, you can make a really good case for

1522
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 10: Connor McGregor.

1523
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: As for Dustin Poorier, he's just a couple.

1524
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 10: Of months removed from becoming the first man to ever

1525
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 10: finished McGregor by strikes. He's also on a great role here, guys.

1526
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 10: He's only lost once in the last five years. The

1527
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 10: guy he lost to the lightweight goat Habib, so there's

1528
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 10: no shame in that. And the most important reason and

1529
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 10: the reason why I'm picking Dustin Pourier here is because

1530
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 10: he is the.

1531
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: Much more durable fighter.

1532
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 10: You know, we've seen them in their time and time

1533
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 10: again face adversity in the cage, have his backup against

1534
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 10: the wall and still being able to perform at a

1535
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 10: very high level when hurt. I don't think he can

1536
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 10: say that about Connor McGregor. There's not a whole lot

1537
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 10: of recent examples of that. You can look at, maybe

1538
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 10: the Chad Mendez fight, maybe maybe parts of the DS

1539
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 10: two fight to be fair, But for Connor, it seems

1540
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 10: like a fight needs to go to an exact blueprint

1541
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 10: for him to win. And I don't think Poree is

1542
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 10: going to fall into that blueprint, you know.

1543
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: And there's this.

1544
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 10: Narrative floating around rich Man can't fight. I do buy

1545
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 10: into that a little bit. And what I mean by that,

1546
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 10: I don't think Connor is going to be any less motivated.

1547
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 10: I don't think he's going to try any less hard.

1548
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 10: But I do think when his back's up against the cage,

1549
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 10: maybe he's a little hurt, maybe he's a little tired.

1550
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 10: It does make it a little bit easier to give

1551
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 10: in and foold, like we did see in the second

1552
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 10: round of their fight back in January. And Guys, I

1553
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 10: say all this as one of the biggest conn McGregor fans.

1554
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 10: The ll take my job out of it, take the

1555
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 10: betting out of it. Connor McGregor is my second favorite

1556
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 10: fighter of all time GSP number one. I am Canadian

1557
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 10: after all, but you got to look at this stuff

1558
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 10: in hindsight. Right outside of the one hundred and forty

1559
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 10: five pound wait class, Conor McGregor is a five hundred fighter.

1560
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 10: He's just three and three and he was finished on

1561
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 10: three occasions. And I do think he's ultimately was hurt

1562
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 10: when he left the sport at his absolute peak after

1563
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 10: that masterpiece against Eddie Alvarez. He left the sport to

1564
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 10: fight Floyd Mayweather, and he had a ton of inactivity

1565
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 10: in what are supposed to be the prime years of

1566
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 10: an athlete's career, right, So I think that that's hurting him.

1567
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 10: Like I said, though still one of the best offensive

1568
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 10: fighters in the sport. So how do I think it's

1569
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 10: going to play out? One big takeaway from that first fight?

1570
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 10: Of course, I think we'll see some calf kicks again.

1571
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 10: Dustin's going to test that out again. But how easy

1572
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 10: did that takedown come for Dustin Poarier in the opening

1573
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 10: round of the fight. So I do think maybe he

1574
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 10: does come out with a wrestling heavy game plan at

1575
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 10: least early on, to try to win McGregor sucks some

1576
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 10: gas out of him a little bit. And you know

1577
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 10: one thing I don't like about McGregor. I am such

1578
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 10: a big fan, but he comes out like he's trying

1579
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 10: to tease Parier a little bit, like first one to

1580
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 10: shoots a dusty bitch or something like that was I think.

1581
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 10: But he put out it's not a boxing match, Connor.

1582
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 10: Why would Dustin make it easy for you and just

1583
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 10: stand there and box with you?

1584
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1585
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 10: So I could see Poorier, you know, the first round

1586
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 10: at least going wrestling heavy, try to tire McGregor, because

1587
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 10: what do we always say about McGregor, It's like Francis

1588
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 10: and Gano. If you can get out of the first

1589
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 10: round with him, you know, then your chance is improved.

1590
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 10: So I do think that is the case. I won't

1591
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 10: be surprised if McGregor wins. Like I said, it's very close,

1592
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 10: but I think there's more evidence to back the Diamond

1593
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 10: in this one. I like them a lot more as

1594
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 10: an underdog, though.

1595
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,879
Speaker 3: Joe a delicious appetizer. Right before that fight, Gilbert Burns

1596
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 3: taking on a very tough Steven wonder Boy Thompson. Both

1597
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 3: Ian and I picked wonder Boy. How are you picking

1598
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 3: this one?

1599
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, very tough fight, right, and I absolutely do lean WonderBoy.

1600
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: To get the w here.

1601
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 10: But my best bet for this fight would be for

1602
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 10: it to go to decision, which you can get at

1603
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 10: minus one ten pretty good odds. And wonder Boy obviously

1604
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 10: a very unique style, right, and that style tends.

1605
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: To dictate the pace of the fights that he's in.

1606
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 10: And this is the seven of his last eight fights

1607
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 10: going to decision, including five five round fights, and the

1608
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 10: one fight that didn't go to the decision was when

1609
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 10: he got KOed by Anthony Pettis.

1610
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: And if you look at guy what the guys have

1611
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: done since.

1612
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 10: That fight, that looks like just a gigantic outlier in

1613
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 10: Wonder Boy's career, right.

1614
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: So I do think we're in for a long fight.

1615
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 10: I will be very interested to see what Burns' strategy

1616
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 10: is coming into this one. I do expect a feeling

1617
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 10: out process like we do tend to see and Wonder

1618
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 10: Boy fights that's going to chew up some clock. I

1619
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 10: think you would expect Burns to go for some takedowns here,

1620
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 10: and he hasn't been very successful with his takedowns in

1621
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 10: recent fights.

1622
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: Really just three for fourteen his last four fights.

1623
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 10: Overall, wonder Boys takedown defense pretty good seventy eight percent

1624
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 10: in the UFC, and failed takedown attempts tend to chew

1625
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 10: up some clock, right, So I hope to see these

1626
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 10: guys pressing up against the.

1627
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: Cage a little bit. So, yeah, I do.

1628
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 10: I do think we're in for a bit of a

1629
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 10: longer fight. Iileen WonderBoy. I just think he's a difficult

1630
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 10: puzzle to figure out there. But I do see that

1631
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 10: one going to decision minus one.

1632
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: Ten I think is a pretty good better.

1633
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 5: I like that. I like that Joe Modus won ten

1634
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 5: for Gilbert Burns and Stephen water Boy Thompson to go

1635
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 5: the distance, which means you wouldn't have to pick a winner,

1636
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 5: just the fight would.

1637
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 6: Have to oh fifteen, all right.

1638
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 5: One fight that really intrigues me is in the heavyweight division,

1639
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 5: featured down here on pay per view. Greg Hardy Slide

1640
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 5: underdog plus one fifteen or so against tie to Vasa.

1641
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 6: Will you have action on this by show?

1642
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1643
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 10: I like Tuivasa here coming to this one. I'm not

1644
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 10: going to come out to make a case for him

1645
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 10: competing for a title anytime soon, but this is almost more.

1646
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: Of a fate of Greg Hardy.

1647
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 10: Greg Hardy, you know, a ton of talent, a ton

1648
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 10: of raw athleticism.

1649
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: But not a whole lot of evolution here.

1650
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 10: And Hurdy is successful when he is able to overwhelm

1651
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 10: an opponent, and the opponents that he's been able to

1652
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 10: overwhelm are guys that haven't had a whole lot of

1653
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 10: success in the UFC. You take a look at his

1654
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 10: wins Maury screen. He's one and four in his last

1655
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 10: five fights, the Castro, three straight losses, one Adams no

1656
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 10: longer in the UFC at the three straight losses, and

1657
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 10: Smoley a cough, sorry, I don't know if that's but

1658
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,879
Speaker 10: all in three in the UFC, finished all three times.

1659
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: So when he's in there with a more experienced.

1660
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 10: Fighter, he gets in situations that he doesn't know how

1661
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 10: to get out of.

1662
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 2: Right, and Tuivasa a very durable guy.

1663
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 10: I think he can weather that storm in the first

1664
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 10: round and he can avoid being overwhelmed by Hardy. I

1665
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 10: do like the momentum that two Ebossa is coming into

1666
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 10: this fight with two straight first round victories, has four

1667
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 10: total finishes in the UFC. So yeah, Hardy when he

1668
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 10: goes to that next level. He tends not to be

1669
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 10: very impressive, and I do think Touibasa is a step

1670
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 10: up the ladder for him coming into this fight.

1671
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 5: A lot of our experts pretty bullish on Ti to

1672
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 5: Evasa this weekend. Final question for me in terms of

1673
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 5: weathering the storm. This is just a selfish parent in question.

1674
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 5: But I know you have young children, yes, Like what

1675
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 5: time do you wake up in the Eastern Standard times

1676
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 5: on a pay per view Saturday, so you're able to

1677
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 5: be awake when Connor walks at like twelve thirty am Eastern?

1678
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh dude.

1679
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 10: So I got a deal with my wife where typically

1680
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 10: we do this every weekend, whether it's a UFC pay

1681
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 10: per view weekend or not, where I wake up one

1682
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 10: of the.

1683
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: Days and she wakes up the other. So she'll wake up,

1684
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: She'll wake up.

1685
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 10: I'll wake up on the Saturdays, which means I'm usually

1686
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 10: up at like seven am.

1687
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: So that means it's a cup of coffee.

1688
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 10: And a Monster energy drink day for me, right, And

1689
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 10: usually when we have a big fight, like I could

1690
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 10: sleep three hours an hour the night before Connor McGregor fight,

1691
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 10: and I'm just on the edge of my seat with

1692
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 10: my heart feeding right, just see adrenaline. I always sleep

1693
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 10: absolutely fucking horribly after a big UFC.

1694
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: Too, right, So I'll be sleeping in on Sunday. Pretty

1695
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 2: good arrangement here at home.

1696
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 10: So that's what I would recommend to the out there

1697
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 10: who might be in a similar situation.

1698
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 5: All right, Well, if you want to fade or follow

1699
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 5: or just ingest his insight on social media at Jtfoz

1700
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 5: at Paper Chaser, Joe the Great Joe Osborne, wouldn't be

1701
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 5: a wouldn't be a pay per view week without your buddy.

1702
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 5: Enjoy the fights this weekend and we will talk to

1703
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 5: you in about three weeks.

1704
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 10: Great guys, thanks again for having me on. Good luck

1705
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 10: to you, and good luck to all the.

1706
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: Listeners out there.

1707
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 6: Thank you, buddy. How about that hair on Joe Osborne today?

1708
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 6: Having kids?

1709
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 3: Looking good?

1710
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 7: Man?

1711
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 6: I mean sometimes he wears a hat with us, but

1712
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 6: he looks good. Uh today?

1713
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 4: Who?

1714
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 6: All right?

1715
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 5: So a lot of people were wondering if Ray Longo

1716
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 5: was going to join us today. We did a Q

1717
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 5: and A yesterday or last week. I should say, God,

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01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 5: I'm all over the God damn joy did a Q

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 5: and A last week.

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Speaker 6: Longo was not a part of it.

1721
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 5: But this is one of the bigger shows we do

1722
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 5: in advance of a pay per view of this magnitude.

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01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 6: Let's get to the Ray Longo.

1724
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: Man, is now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

1725
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: I want a punch a hole in this fuck?

1726
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: That's what the Ray long Minute. John nik and Kenny

1727
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: Florian podcast.

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01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 11: Yay that befourth of July. That screwed me over again? Well,

1729
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 11: I thought you were doing a Q.

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01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 7: And A.

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: I was last week.

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 6: Well I'm a little uh aga off guard.

1733
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 7: Do you like?

1734
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 11: Let me say, Oh, man, I see Ray long Faces

1735
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 11: all over the place.

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01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 5: Then yeah, so your basi and it's great to have

1737
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 5: Ray Longa with us. So he bought a T shirt

1738
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 5: at Anti Floran podcast dot com, the Ray long Face

1739
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 5: shirt that says punch a hole in his shirt. By

1740
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 5: the way, what, how how late did you go to

1741
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 5: bed last night?

1742
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 11: Late?

1743
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1744
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 11: I wish somebody would have told me I would have

1745
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 11: been I would have definitely been there at eleven.

1746
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 6: No, I apologize for so.

1747
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 5: The reason I didn't text you yesterday is that, as

1748
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 5: you can see, I'm in Vegas. The UFC scrat yet

1749
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 5: met Vegas early because of Hurricane Elsa. So I was

1750
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 5: scrambling to just get out here, so I didn't text

1751
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 5: you yesterday in the usual slot, but essentially for the

1752
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 5: last three hundred mondays or so, we've gone eleven am Eastern,

1753
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 5: So the.

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01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 7: Last time I remember, we were doing six o'clock.

1755
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1756
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 6: So, well, you look great.

1757
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 5: I mean, as always, I don't know how good your

1758
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 5: skin looks, so but yeah, So I got my Ray

1759
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 5: Longo minute T shirts and I'm just going to wear

1760
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: these around Vegas and just promote.

1761
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 6: The hell out of you as oh wow, right, nice?

1762
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 5: All right, so we're getting you at the end of

1763
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 5: the show as opposed to the beginning. So at this

1764
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 5: point in time, we've talked a lot about Dustin and Connor.

1765
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 5: But as we sit here about five days out, I

1766
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 5: just sort of want to get your thoughts on on

1767
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: this fight. You could certainly give us a prediction if

1768
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 5: you want. But interesting circumstance that we went essentially seven

1769
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 5: years between meetings one and two, and now we have

1770
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 5: like six or seven months between meetings two and three.

1771
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 5: So what are your thoughts on Connor and Dustin and

1772
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 5: what might be different than what we saw back in January.

1773
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 11: Uh, you know, you bring up a good point I

1774
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 11: mean seven years right. I mean at once seven years ago,

1775
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 11: Connor was way more hungry a fighter, right, I mean

1776
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 11: he was on his way up. And I think that

1777
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 11: you know, it happens, it goes almost goes back to

1778
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 11: maybe because I did pick Connor to win the last

1779
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 11: fight and he didn't. But it's almost like the Marvin

1780
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 11: Haglers saying, you know, it's hard to get up and

1781
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 11: jog it six in the morning when it's two degrees

1782
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 11: out right, So I.

1783
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 7: Mean he did on his way up. Man.

1784
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 11: You know the guy was you have that drive and

1785
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 11: that dedication, that motivation, you know, everything else. And you

1786
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 11: know he's had a couple of losses in between that time.

1787
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 11: And I think that's what you're saying, Like he look,

1788
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 11: he knows the adjustments he has to make to win

1789
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 11: this fight. I'm not sure he could do it. You know,

1790
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 11: I don't know who I'm picking in this fight, but

1791
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 11: I'm leaning towards Dustin. I think he's now has his number.

1792
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 11: And uh, you know, you look there there was there

1793
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 11: were exchanges. Dustin got hit so that he could get

1794
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 11: he could get thrown out of there too.

1795
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 6: You know, oh we are ready to go today. I

1796
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 6: don't know.

1797
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get to today, but.

1798
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 3: He's trying to do a show. Leave him alone.

1799
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 11: I can't even put on silent because it somehow still

1800
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 11: goes through to the computer. But uh, but you know

1801
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 11: what I'm saying, like so kind of knows the adjustments

1802
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 11: he has to make, and I'm sure he's going to

1803
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 11: make some adjustments.

1804
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 7: It's I don't know if it's going to be enough.

1805
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 11: I mean, Dustin's got a great gas tank that's probably

1806
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 11: never gonna be there for Conna, you know what I mean,

1807
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 11: no matter what, because he you know, it'd be a

1808
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 11: little better, it should be at fifty five.

1809
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 7: But man, it's going to be a tough one. Man.

1810
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 11: He I think he's got to get him out early

1811
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 11: or that fight gets it looks the same as it

1812
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 11: did last.

1813
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:47,799
Speaker 6: Time, Kenny.

1814
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 5: So much has been made of this whole silk sheets garbage, right,

1815
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 5: And I don't mean it's garbage when Ray brings it up, right.

1816
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 5: But Connor has all the money in the world, and

1817
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 5: by coming back, he put his mm A legacy, not

1818
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 5: in Jeopardy per se, right, But you come back the

1819
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 5: way he has and there's a lot of risks, all

1820
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 5: of a sudden you come back, you lose two fights

1821
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 5: to Dustin Poier, like it effectively changes your legacy forever.

1822
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying that I don't buy into the

1823
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 5: silk sheets stuff at all, but like, like, where is

1824
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 5: it quantifiable? Like in training when they want him to

1825
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 5: do another round and he just doesn't feel like it

1826
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 5: because my indicator suggests that he is working exceedingly hard

1827
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 5: and that the hunger remains.

1828
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 6: Like I just don't wholly buy into this narrative.

1829
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 11: I like that first just yeah, his home the remains,

1830
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 11: but it remains in the Whiskey company. You know, there's

1831
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 11: a lot going on, John, That's a lot of money

1832
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 11: to have thrown at you. That's silk sheets. Analogy isn't

1833
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 11: just about that. It's about the whole you know, becoming

1834
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 11: softer thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, I think

1835
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 11: you're mentally you're still there. You want that, you know,

1836
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 11: you're a fighter, that's a given. But are you doing

1837
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 11: the same things you would do and that got you there?

1838
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 11: That's the question. Forget about the silk sheets. Are you

1839
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 11: doing the same things you were doing to get you there?

1840
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 11: And I'm saying with all the things he's got going

1841
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 11: on in the lawsuits and the whiskey companies, the money

1842
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 11: being thrown at me. Now he has a kid, he

1843
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 11: has different responsibilities. That's what it means. It's not just

1844
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 11: you know, getting up and doing your own work. It

1845
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 11: there's a whole combination of things that I think we

1846
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 11: could we could point out a lot of cases of that,

1847
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:28,719
Speaker 11: but I'm.

1848
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 7: Sorry, it just had done on my head.

1849
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 3: No. Absolutely, and I think, you know, besides Ray's point,

1850
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: and I guess I'll go a little bit further on it,

1851
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 3: I think he's absolutely correct. I think that it is

1852
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 3: a very different dynamic preparing for a fight when you

1853
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 3: have all of those things around you than you did

1854
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: when you were first starting the hunger and all those

1855
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: things is just a different deal. I think that Connor

1856
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 3: wants to train for fights. I think he wants to

1857
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 3: train hard for fights. I think where that dynamic reveals

1858
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 3: it self is when you are getting beaten down and

1859
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 3: you start to go, wait a sec. I got a

1860
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 3: really comfortable bed, and I got a real comfortable private

1861
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 3: plane that I can go back to, and I got

1862
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 3: a yacht waiting for me, and I got all these

1863
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: other things waiting for Like, uh, I don't have to

1864
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 3: do this. Oh yeah, whereas if you're like, this is

1865
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 3: my only way out. Yeah, it's a very different thing. Right,

1866
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 3: It's the same thing if I drop you off in

1867
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 3: the middle of the ocean. The Graces used to use

1868
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: this analogy all the time. If I drop you off

1869
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: in the middle of the ocean and I say, hey,

1870
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't know if I'm coming back right,

1871
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 3: your willingness to give up, it's going to be very different.

1872
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: If I go I'll be back in ten hours, You're

1873
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,839
Speaker 3: gonna do everything, possibly because so that willingness to survive,

1874
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: that willingness to know that you're going to be saved

1875
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: and you have something waiting for you is very different.

1876
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 3: And like Ray said, you know what, seven years ago,

1877
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 3: I don't think Rihanna was calling them. I don't think

1878
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 3: you know, Christiano Ronaldo and Messi and all these other

1879
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 3: people were hitting them up left and right and asking

1880
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: him if he wants to go to the club, or

1881
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: you know, if Lamborghini's giving him a call to see

1882
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 3: if he wants to be a brand ambassador. You know,

1883
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: it's a totally different deal. You know, you think about

1884
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 3: the amount of interviews Joe Blow does, and the amount

1885
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 3: of interviews that Connor McGregor does.

1886
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 7: You think about.

1887
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: Who hits you up when you're nobody and who hits

1888
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: you up when you're famous. How many invites you get

1889
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 3: when you're a nobody and how many invites you get

1890
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 3: when you're the biggest athlete on the planet. It's a

1891
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 3: totally different thing. How do you shut this off? Can

1892
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: you shut up? It's possible, It's not.

1893
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 11: Easy a hundred. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's

1894
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 11: not the saying, it's what goes along. It's just the

1895
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 11: analogy and that there's a million things. You're on your

1896
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 11: way to training. Like Kenny says, again, Lamborghini calls up,

1897
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 11: they go, we got a million dollar deal for you. You're

1898
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 11: cool in your trains and going, look, man, I just

1899
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 11: got a call.

1900
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 7: I gotta get a dude. It sets a vibe that

1901
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 7: then even your train is probably start going what am

1902
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 7: I doing? You know what I mean?

1903
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 11: Like I'm sitting here like a schmunk and you know

1904
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 11: this guy's running around making deals, which is great.

1905
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then at the same time, in twenty four hours,

1906
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 3: you can make a million dollars for showing up and

1907
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 3: signing autographs.

1908
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 11: You're like, exactly, but you know, yeah, but if you

1909
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 11: think that's the same as when you're coming up and

1910
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 11: you're just doing anything, and you know, you know, I remember,

1911
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 11: like you know, we took that fight with Sakarro, with

1912
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 11: Widman man.

1913
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 7: I had my daughter come down to the gym at

1914
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 7: ten at night so.

1915
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 11: I could give him a work because we just got

1916
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 11: the news and we had to get going.

1917
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 7: We had like two weeks or whatever.

1918
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 3: I mean.

1919
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 11: She came down babysat as little girl. She was probably

1920
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 11: a year old, two years old. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1921
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 11: that's not happening now, you know what I mean. Also,

1922
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 11: what does it do is gonna make that'll watch the kid?

1923
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 7: That's why.

1924
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, what is it?

1925
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1926
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 3: Right? And what does it do for you mentally?

1927
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 7: Right?

1928
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 3: When you go from being able to train in silence,

1929
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 3: to train comfortably no one's trying to bother you to

1930
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 3: you can't walk anywhere, and if you are walking somewhere,

1931
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Speaker 3: everyone's trying to shake your hand and tell you how

1932
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Speaker 3: great you are. And I don't care who you are, right,

1933
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 3: and what kind of you know, still trap you have

1934
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 3: for a mile? Right, you're gonna start to believe that

1935
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 3: ship and everyone says that, you know, your shit doesn't stink,

1936
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Speaker 3: You're the greatest thing ever, and oh my god, you're

1937
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 3: a god and all this stuff. You start to believe it.

1938
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 3: And that's where over confidence and come into play. Whereas

1939
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: before you're like, hey, I know I could be beat.

1940
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 3: I know I'm coming up. I know what a sticky

1941
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 3: Jim feels like. You know, all those things play a

1942
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 3: dynamic that that is that is difficult to deal with it.

1943
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 11: I couldn't agree more. It's the truth. That's why I

1944
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 11: say he wins this fight, I'll be super impressed, super

1945
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 11: impressed with that win, because this is what he has

1946
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 11: to deal with, even that thing on ESPN when he

1947
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 11: came out of the whole the restaurant and you shadow,

1948
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 11: But this guy did a great job. He wrote the

1949
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 11: book on how to brand yourself. He really did. If

1950
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 11: you have the skill set, and he had the skill

1951
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 11: set to back it up, and he did a great job.

1952
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 11: You know, I've grown to really you know, light that

1953
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 11: end of it, you know, but the fighting and now

1954
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 11: and again, you could you could answer this question easy.

1955
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 11: All you got to do is talk to those coaches

1956
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 11: and get an honest conversation, they will one hundred, but

1957
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 11: they know what's going on about the only people that

1958
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 11: probably know, But they know what's going on.

1959
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 7: And I'm not sure fantastic, you know what I mean, Like.

1960
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 5: In some footage here of Connor McGregor just mobbed by

1961
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 5: fans leaving the restaurant. But I'm not sure that we

1962
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 5: can draw analogies in our own lives, right, because all

1963
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 5: three of us are public figures to whatever degree.

1964
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Speaker 6: Right.

1965
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 5: But I listened to a podcast Kenny did recently where

1966
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 5: he said something like I still have to work, you know,

1967
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 5: and we all still have to work. But I think

1968
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 5: back to two thousand and three. I'm living in an

1969
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 5: apartment in Newton, Massachusetts. My rent is six hundred bucks

1970
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 5: a month, and I couldn't pay my rent. And I

1971
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 5: call my dad, who I don't really have a great

1972
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 5: relationship with. But I'm like, hey, man, like I can't

1973
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 5: pay my rent. He's like, dude, I don't want to

1974
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 5: tell you. I might have like a savings bond from

1975
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 5: your bar Mitzvah from nineteen ninety one that I can

1976
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 5: send you found a savings bond, and that's how I

1977
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 5: paid my rent.

1978
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 6: It was only eighteen years ago.

1979
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 5: But for me, like procedurally in terms of my work

1980
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 5: ethic or my fighter cards are like my process hasn't

1981
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 5: changed at all. But I think part of it is

1982
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 5: because I have to go earn this job and earn

1983
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 5: this paycheck every week, whereas he.

1984
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 6: He doesn't need to be doing this.

1985
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 5: And that's I think why a lot of us are

1986
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 5: so impressed that he's doing this. Because he's back for legacy,

1987
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 5: Like he's paid lots more scalps on his MMA resume period.

1988
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 6: That's why he's back.

1989
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, he might want him, but is he willing to

1990
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 11: work for him? Is the way he did at the beginning?

1991
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 11: That's the question. And listen, I agree, I agree with you,

1992
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 11: but you know, I think even just talking about Matt

1993
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 11: Marvin Haglou said that dude, that guy fourteen title defenses,

1994
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 11: what was it? The guy was insane, steady Eddy, same

1995
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 11: guy every fight. That guy was amazing when you look back,

1996
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 11: and I really highly recommend that four Kings documentary that's

1997
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 11: on Showtime now, absolutely phenomenal. That was a golden era

1998
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 11: of boxing. There's a lot to be learned from each

1999
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 11: one of those guys. Man who stuck around too long

2000
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 11: who did. And yeah, it was a great, great guy

2001
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 11: documentary series.

2002
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 7: It really was. That's a I really everybody should watch that.

2003
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 6: Can't flow your muteed my men.

2004
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 3: And another lesson from that, you know, Marvin Hagler used

2005
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 3: to go over to Provincetown. He go to pe Town,

2006
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: right the very tip of the cape, to go and train.

2007
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: He would go isolate himself for everyone, everyone in anyone right,

2008
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 3: That's where he would go to do his hardcore training

2009
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 3: camps with the Petronelli brothers out of Brockton. And you know,

2010
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: a good sign is that Connor has done that here.

2011
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,839
Speaker 3: He has brought his whole team, he has isolated himself,

2012
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 3: he has has really worked hard on trying his best

2013
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 3: to basically cancel out that noise. So that is a

2014
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: good sign. John and I agree, he doesn't have to

2015
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: do this. The fact that he's coming back to fight

2016
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 3: is a good sign in my mind. But when the

2017
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 3: going gets tough, that's where we're going to find out

2018
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 3: what Connor is. And if conn like Ray I was

2019
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 3: saying earlier, if we see Connor go five hard rounds

2020
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 3: and get a win. Even if he loses and he

2021
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 3: goes hard, he fights through all those things, then Connor

2022
01:31:59,360 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 3: is back.

2023
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 11: He's a winner. I agree with Kenny hundred percent. It's

2024
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 11: not about winning a losing. It's about showing up. And

2025
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 11: if he does that, he's a winner, and he'll he'll

2026
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 11: be way more popular win or lose. He really will be.

2027
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 11: It's not a I've seen. Look, I remember Matt losing.

2028
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 11: He got more fans with a loss. You know, it's

2029
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 11: about the effort you put in, right, nobody wants that's it.

2030
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 11: Kenny's one hundred percent right. We see that guy and

2031
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 11: we'll be able to tell that's a different animal, you

2032
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 11: know what I mean, And that'll be people will appreciate that.

2033
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 5: Joe Osborne just touched on sort of the lost developmental

2034
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 5: time for Connor McGregor during the prime of his career

2035
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 5: when he went to box Floyd Mayweather, And we can't

2036
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 5: necessarily quantify that Kenny, right, But with Pourier, we absolutely can't.

2037
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 5: He has left no stone unturned for fifteen years, right,

2038
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 5: there haven't been There hasn't been a stretch of six

2039
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 5: weeks where he hasn't been working to try to improve

2040
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 5: himself as a mixed martial artist in all discipline. Bringing

2041
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 5: it I mean dude, like even the boxing work he

2042
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 5: does with Dian Davis like and Pourier would realize success

2043
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 5: in a professional boxing.

2044
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 6: Ground like he would.

2045
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 3: That matters, you know.

2046
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 5: And so I just think for Connor there were huge

2047
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 5: pockets not of inactivity per se. But he hasn't been

2048
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 5: hell bent and tunnel focused on improving his mixed martial

2049
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 5: arts game for every minute of the last ten years

2050
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 5: the way the guys he's competing against in theory have

2051
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 5: been doing.

2052
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 6: So, I don't know, well, and again.

2053
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 11: You can't give Dustin enough credit for how he persevered

2054
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 11: and all the fights he's had, and he's still looking

2055
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 11: great and he's he's steady Eddy, He's going to show up,

2056
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 11: you know what I mean. So he's definitely showing up.

2057
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 11: That's a tough one, man, you know, because again I

2058
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 11: picked Connor to win the last time. This time he's

2059
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 11: got to make some adjustments. But those adjustments I think

2060
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 11: at this point in his career might it might be

2061
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 11: asking too much.

2062
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 7: I don't know, all.

2063
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 5: Right, Two other things on UFC two sixty four that

2064
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 5: I want to get to. So Sugar Shan O'Malley needed

2065
01:33:56,160 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 5: an opponent. Lewis Smolka had staff infection, and I know

2066
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 5: Sean O'Malley has talked at times about wanting to maybe

2067
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 5: fight opponents based upon what he's being paid, that if

2068
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 5: you want me to fight Domina Cruz, then rip up

2069
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 5: my contract and pay me something that is more commensurate

2070
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 5: with fighting a former two time UFC Bandamway champion. But

2071
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 5: I was very encouraged when Shan O'Malley called out Ricky

2072
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 5: Simone to step in, because Ricky Simone had thrown his

2073
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 5: name in the hat, not unlike your guy Morob Dwalash

2074
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 5: Willie had. Now, I don't think any of us expected

2075
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 5: him to fight Morob, and of course Morob has the

2076
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 5: Marl and but Ice fight already on the schedule, and

2077
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 5: I don't believe Ricky Simone had a fight. But I

2078
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 5: just wanted to get your thoughts on how that all

2079
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 5: played out. Simone throwing his hat into the mix, but

2080
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 5: then when he seemingly gets the fight, can't make weight

2081
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 5: and now they settle on a regional guy out of

2082
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 5: New England and Chris Motino.

2083
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 6: Any thoughts on how it played out for Uh O'Malley.

2084
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 11: Uh Man, I would have loved to have seen the

2085
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 11: Simone fight.

2086
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 7: I could tell you that. I mean, that would be

2087
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 7: a great fight.

2088
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 11: I mean, now he's fighting an unknown, so, uh.

2089
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 7: May you bring up the money thing in the contract

2090
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 7: you want to go? I mean, can you blame the guy?

2091
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 11: But at this stage of his career, I think he

2092
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 11: should be fighting and let the chips full where they are.

2093
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 11: They seem to have worked out for a lot of

2094
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 11: other people that had talent and had charisma and had

2095
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 11: you know, a side show like he has, so uh,

2096
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 11: if you really believe in yourself, I think at this

2097
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 11: stage he had to go for.

2098
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 7: It fighting an unknown.

2099
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 11: I don't think he's going to do one thing for

2100
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 11: him that that's risky. You know that that's really because

2101
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 11: even if he doesn't get rid of this guy right away,

2102
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 11: see it's almost the opposite of con if he goes

2103
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 11: five hard rounds, but if this guy goes three rounds,

2104
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 11: would an unknown and it's you know, kind of close,

2105
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 11: it's going to be a negative on him.

2106
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 7: So that stuff that it's that.

2107
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 11: The contract stuff is really tough though, man, if that's

2108
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 11: what he's thinking. But I would have loved to have

2109
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 11: seen a Ricky Simone fight, and obviously I would have

2110
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 11: loved to have seen him a rop fight, but I

2111
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 11: didn't think that was I was he's got to concentrate.

2112
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 7: On Maulin and that's what he gets.

2113
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 5: Not expect O'Malley to the land on the name Ricky Simone, Right,

2114
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 5: I was super impressed that he was willing to fight

2115
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 5: Ricky Simon, but Ken Flo sometimes I feel like O'Malley

2116
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 5: can't win because he calls for the Simone fight and

2117
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 5: then everybody says, yeah, he knows Ricky Simone is out

2118
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 5: of shape and that's why he wants to fight, and

2119
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 5: it's like, well, hey, man, like Simon is still an

2120
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 5: offensive force and I think stylistically an interesting if not

2121
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 5: super challenging matchup for Sean O'Malley. So to me, I

2122
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 5: was very much encouraged that that Sean called out Ricky

2123
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 5: even though Simone wasn't able to h to make the walk,

2124
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 5: you know.

2125
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 11: So, I don't know, Yeah, he's a he's in a

2126
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 11: weird spot because everybody, you know, he's got so much

2127
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 11: hype behind him.

2128
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 7: Everybody wants to attack him.

2129
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 11: And you know, if if you were developing a guy,

2130
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 11: this is a good fight for him, you know what

2131
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,799
Speaker 11: I mean? How many fights does O'Malley have in the UFC.

2132
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 5: I can look it up for I mean, he's thirteen

2133
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 5: and one overall, maybe five or six, you.

2134
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 3: Know, five, So he's a.

2135
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 11: He's good man, he's a talented kid, so he's the

2136
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 11: fights he gets are going to be very important, you know,

2137
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 11: in his growing process, you know what I mean, Like in.

2138
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 5: The UFC for Sugar Shan O'Malley, who I don't believe

2139
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 5: is ranked.

2140
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 11: Right now, I got that saying. You know, cream always

2141
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 11: rises to the top. You know, you can't stop. Nobody

2142
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 11: was stopping Connor on the way up. It just was

2143
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 11: in the cards, man.

2144
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

2145
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Speaker 11: And if this kid's the real deal, nobody will stop him.

2146
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 11: But he's already been.

2147
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 7: Stopped, you know what I mean. That's the problem.

2148
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 11: So he's got he's got a long way to go,

2149
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 11: but he is super talented. He's got the height, he's

2150
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 11: got you know, his boxing skills look awesome to me,

2151
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 11: so I definitely like him. But this fight, seeing him

2152
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 11: fight a guy, you know, from a newcomer, I don't

2153
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 11: think it was a good move.

2154
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 5: And the Lewis Smoker fight didn't make a whole lot

2155
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 5: of sense to me, Essentially fighting a blown up flyweight skilled,

2156
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 5: no doubt about it, UFC credentialed, but fighting blown up

2157
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 5: flyweight when trying to chase the bantam weight time just

2158
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 5: didn't make a whole lot of sense. And that's why

2159
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 5: I got so excited at the possibility of a fight

2160
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 5: between him and Ricky Simone.

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Speaker 6: All right, we'll get you out of here.

2162
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 5: On this ray, a couple of guys who you really like,

2163
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 5: WB Stephen Waterer, Boy Thompson taking on Gilberg Gerino Burns.

2164
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 5: I'd imagine you feel like this is a pretty good

2165
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 5: matchup for wonder Boy. What do you think about the

2166
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 5: co main event?

2167
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 11: Yes, I think it's gonna be Uh. He's gonna do

2168
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 11: the same thing he always does. You know, you're going

2169
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 11: to kee him on the outside. He's going to pick

2170
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 11: him apart. I think it'll be similar to the Luca fight,

2171
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 11: but I think he'll get Burns.

2172
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 7: Out of the Yeah.

2173
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 5: All right, man, Well, uh, I think that's about all

2174
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 5: I have for you. What do you got going on

2175
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 5: this week? I'm sorry that we're not going to see

2176
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 5: you in Vegas. Ken Flow and I are are actually

2177
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 5: going to get to see each other for the first

2178
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 5: time in like three years because he's out here to

2179
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 5: corner Ryan hall Oh.

2180
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 7: Wow, well Ben right who's fighting.

2181
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 3: And he's fighting Ilia Topouria. Undefeated kid who trains out

2182
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 3: of Spain. He's a Georgian kid, tough fighter. Yeah, and

2183
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 3: they finally made this cool. Guys, finally got a fight

2184
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 3: another one thing or another man blood tests. Yeah. Anyways,

2185
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 3: we're good, We're ready.

2186
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 7: Goody, good luck with.

2187
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 3: That man, thank you.

2188
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it man.

2189
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 11: I mean, I mean I wish I was there because

2190
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 11: I think extra rounds is going to be there too.

2191
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 6: Wow, I did that and show it.

2192
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 7: I don't even know. But but anyway, I got.

2193
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 11: A kid, Austin Hallick fighting and I hope there's nobody

2194
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 11: else fighting this Saturday. He's an amateur, but it'll be

2195
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 11: his first MMA fight and he's been helping to all

2196
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 11: the pros. He's a young kid, maybe twenty years old,

2197
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 11: and he looks absolutely phenomenal. So I'm psyched on that.

2198
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 11: And then we'll sit down and we'll watch the big

2199
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 11: big fight cord UFC.

2200
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 5: But Bump, well, you look good. You look lean and

2201
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 5: me and you look like you had a nice Fourth

2202
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 5: of July. Thanks for the birthday text. By the way,

2203
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 5: do you see the nice post Kenny Florin help me

2204
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:48,520
Speaker 5: on Instagram?

2205
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 6: So nice. My wife was like, man, that Kenny post

2206
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 6: was really.

2207
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 7: I hope I did. I at least comment on it.

2208
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 5: Let me say so, now you missed my birthday completely,

2209
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 5: not night you see. You know, Britney Palmer's birthday is

2210
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 5: big news for Joe Rogan. Hey, that's just total poll.

2211
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 5: That's just where I stand. I'm not on the list

2212
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 5: of people who get a birthday shout out from the.

2213
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 7: Speak to you last year. Listen, I'm getting old, man.

2214
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 7: My brain is absolutely.

2215
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 6: Friday, quite all right.

2216
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 5: And when you get to bring closer to fifty than thirty,

2217
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 5: you actually hope that people that people forget. But hey,

2218
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 5: it's great to see you, and we'll be We'll be

2219
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 5: back next Monday. I'll be I'll be sitting at the

2220
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 5: same goddamn residence in oh Wait.

2221
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 7: Is the quarantine still the same same deal?

2222
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 6: I don't know about the quarantine.

2223
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 5: I can tell you that for vaccinated individuals, we don't

2224
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 5: have to test well really, so we.

2225
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 3: Don't need what I hear, we don't even need to

2226
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 3: wear a mask, is what I'm hearing.

2227
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:54,879
Speaker 7: No, man, how.

2228
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 11: How diligent are they looking at whether or not those

2229
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 11: uh those cards for real or not?

2230
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 6: Do they have Nation cards?

2231
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 7: Do have an expert on that? Or can you show me?

2232
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 3: It's like it's just like a cardboard thing with someone's

2233
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 3: signature on. I you know, it's nothing.

2234
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 11: If I if I werew a piece of paper with

2235
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 11: my wife signing off saying I was vaccinated, you think

2236
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 11: that would be okay?

2237
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 12: Or yeah, it's a it's a note from your parent

2238
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 12: for while you missed homeworkers, right, yeah, but wouldn't that

2239
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 12: be something if if we're still quarantined on Friday night

2240
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 12: before doing a show at twenty thousand people at Teamobile

2241
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 12: Arena on Saturday.

2242
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 5: But I think I think we're free and clear. Well, hey,

2243
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,640
Speaker 5: thanks for thanks for taking the call today. Sorry that

2244
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 5: I didn't give you more notice, but always want to

2245
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 5: see your shining face.

2246
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 7: Go through that whole thing again.

2247
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 11: We've been doing the show at eleven o'clock for three

2248
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 11: ye yeah, well you.

2249
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 6: Know it's our three hundred and seven episode. You know

2250
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 6: it's usually Monday at eleven a m. Eastern.

2251
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 7: But what happened? Listen? I was sitting here at my computer,

2252
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 7: my thumb up my ears.

2253
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 5: Last week, I tell you I said, I texted you

2254
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 5: in advance of the show saying that, hey, we're just

2255
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 5: doing a Q and A with the fans.

2256
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 6: We won't need you today.

2257
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 7: You didn't say we won't need you, said we're doing

2258
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 7: a Q and A. I thought I was involved. I

2259
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 7: was sitting here with my popcorn. I had a cup

2260
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 7: of tea with me. I was waiting, areus you know questions?

2261
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 6: I got that was the case. I'm gonna say.

2262
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 7: I'm sending you on you man birthday.

2263
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

2264
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:28,600
Speaker 7: I might have released the dogs.

2265
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 5: Maybe my communication could have been more clear, but I

2266
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 5: said this was at eight eleven am. Okay, Monday, Hey

2267
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 5: just a heads up, no show today. We're just doing

2268
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 5: a thirty minute Q and A. And you wrote, okay, thanks.

2269
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:44,719
Speaker 7: Today.

2270
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 3: So you thought it was a Q and ah. Oh,

2271
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 3: no show, but I'm going to be a part of

2272
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 3: the QA.

2273
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 7: That'd be a part of Q and A.

2274
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 11: And then one of my guys told me, I guess

2275
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 11: you got fucked again.

2276
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 7: That's what I heard when I got the gym.

2277
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 11: I guess you got fucked over again. This guy's trying

2278
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 11: about his birthday. I'm sitting here with the computer waiting

2279
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 11: to get a question I'm looking at a blank screen.

2280
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 3: You think that you get you get.

2281
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 8: The nerve on this guy in.

2282
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 7: Your heart when you say that, you get a little

2283
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 7: pain in your.

2284
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 6: Heart doesn't volumes.

2285
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 5: I'm wearing your fucking name on my shirt all around

2286
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 5: Las Vegas today.

2287
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 7: You'll get right.

2288
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 3: You must. At least it doesn't matter. You weren't you

2289
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 3: weren't being a part of the show. You were working

2290
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 3: on that tan at least every day this week.

2291
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,839
Speaker 11: Look at that thing he's getting. He's getting a belated

2292
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 11: birthday late. I feel absolutely horrible.

2293
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 5: Hey, I was bringing up our researcher, Tom's your bassie though,

2294
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 5: wearing the T shirt punch a hole in his chest

2295
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 5: right and florent podcast dot com. So he's at a

2296
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 5: Bars Noble on my birthday incidentally, on July third, and

2297
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 5: he said somebody came up to him, was like, that's

2298
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 5: an Anakim Floring podcast shirt.

2299
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 6: I listened to those guys every week.

2300
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 5: Was like, wow, I didn't expect you to recognize the

2301
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 5: T shirt so quickly they just went on sale, and

2302
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 5: he was He just looked at him and said, Ray Long.

2303
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 5: Of course, New York legend Barnes and Noble in Brooklyn,

2304
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 5: New York.

2305
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 11: So uh yeah, there's a lot of guys just buying

2306
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 11: those shirts, young guys, just so they go out to

2307
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 11: all they're getting laid a lot easier.

2308
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 7: Now, Seriously, that's.

2309
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 4: What I heard.

2310
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 11: I heard one of my guys d I I've been

2311
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 11: late in the month.

2312
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 6: I'm just glad.

2313
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 3: I've already ordered my, my, My, it's gonna be a

2314
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 3: fluorescent green Lamborghini is the one that I've picked out.

2315
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 3: With all the Ray Longo merchandise we've been selling, I

2316
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 3: got mine already picked out.

2317
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 11: Thank you, Ray, You guys, you guys that are let

2318
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 11: me tell you something.

2319
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 7: You know what that's saying with friends like you who

2320
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 7: needs enemies.

2321
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's sure.

2322
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 7: I think I'm going to go to look at it.

2323
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 3: I'll give you a ride, and I'll give you a

2324
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 3: ride in it one day. How's that? Maybe?

2325
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 7: You know what, when I see a wax it for you,

2326
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 7: just for you.

2327
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 5: I vowed to be better about the communication here too,

2328
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 5: for we're definitely going to send you a check. And

2329
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 5: one thing I say, in total seriousness right here, Ray,

2330
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 5: your T shirt with punched a hole in his chest is.

2331
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 6: Far and away the best seller on the website.

2332
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, to be sort of a

2333
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 5: shot at me, and I mean the album cover, the

2334
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 5: Antik and Florian podcast with us mean mugging with the

2335
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 5: parental advisory explicit content. Those have sold exceedingly well as well.

2336
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 5: But the ray Longo merch Uh sells better than anything

2337
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 5: with our names on it.

2338
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 7: Jenny, I got to get an account and to ordit

2339
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 7: this whole process.

2340
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're good.

2341
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 7: We're good.

2342
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 3: I got to clean up the books a little bit

2343
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 3: if I gotta.

2344
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 11: I got a good forensic account. He'll be over there

2345
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 11: next week. Well you're in Vegas. They'll be ripping apart

2346
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 11: your house. Look at you in trouble.

2347
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for your myriad contributions to the show, and

2348
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 5: we'll talk to you next week.

2349
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 7: All right.

2350
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 11: I wish I was a bad right as I feel

2351
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 11: I feel left out again these I guys.

2352
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 6: We'll do a show when we're all in person together.

2353
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 7: Yeah. I'm starting to feel in the Grudney dangerfield on

2354
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 7: this show. Yeah, I get no respect.

2355
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 4: We'll just fly We'll fly right down to Florida for

2356
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 4: the PFL playoffs, so we'll get the whole band we go.

2357
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 11: Yeah there there we go, all right, guys, listen man,

2358
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 11: enjoy the rest of the weekend.

2359
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 7: I love you guys, and I love you too, brother.

2360
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 3: Make it easy for me, right bye, right.

2361
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 6: Ray long ago.

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Speaker 5: you do so. Subscribe to us too, if you would

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Speaker 5: be so kind, and we'll see you for UFC two

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Speaker 5: sixty four. I've got a lot of content coming your

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Speaker 5: way this week, some DraftKings stuff. Hoping to launch our

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Speaker 5: first anecdotes with DraftKings this week. We also we'll have

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Speaker 5: UFC Live for you on Friday, and I believe we're

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Speaker 5: going two full hours on ESPN and not ESPN two,

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow, you're you're fine out Wednesday, so I'll see

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Speaker 5: in a couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, sir man, I can't wait. Been too long.

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Speaker 6: All the best to Ryan Hall against Ilia to Pudia.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to our guest Joe Osborne, Ian Parker Ray

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Speaker 5: Longer our executive producer. The best in the business is

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Speaker 5: Cody Merrow with that for Ken Flow John and saying

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Speaker 5: so long for this week.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy the pay per view.

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Speaker 5: Thank you all for listening, for subscribing, for watching until

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Speaker 5: next week. Don't text and drive ye later.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 13: I am doctor George Hesus Messa, a clinical psychologist and

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