1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Hi. 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: are going to be talking about the hottest thing on 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the Internet right now, which is Liam Neeson and Pam 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Anderson's relationship, a recall on energy drinks that were accidentally 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: filled with vodka, the world's oldest baby, how silicon breast 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: i plants could cause heart disease, and what happens if 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: you're in the middle of taking a test and someone 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: suddenly goes into cardiac arrest. All that and more on 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: today's episode. All right, let's start with Liam Neeson. So 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: he's you know, what's amazing about this story actually was 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: that I think there's certain subjects rarely, like we could say, 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, it was like the Coldplay video thing. Yeah, 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: now it's like this, Pam Anderson and Liam Newsen, like 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: everyone is happy about this. 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Of course they are. Let's get into it and then 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: we'll talk about what Yeah, Okay, he's been in the 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: press a lot in general because Naked Gun just came 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: out and Pamela Anderson's in that movie too, and this 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: news story has come out that after the death of 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: his wife, Natasha Richardson, he apparently wrote makeup artist Sandy 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: Littner and thank you note for doing such a great 24 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: job on her funeral makeup. 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah that's I mean, that was really shocking when she died. 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean personally, I was very devastated because she's 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: in the parent trap. 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: She's the mom. 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: She was like my favorite actress everything. 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: When I was a getting kid. 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: I thought she was Princess Diana when I was a 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: little kid because they looked exactly the same. And her 33 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: death was really shocking everybody. It was similar to how 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Bob said, it died too, right. 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm going to bring this up in my 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: lecture at Crime Con. Actually, but Natasha Richardson, she was 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: for those of you who forget or are unfamiliar with 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: her death, she was skiing and she fell and it 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: hit her head. So the first the first problem was 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: that she wasn't wearing a helmet, which I put when 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: we wrote the celebrity death to section years ago. On 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: her I did mention, how I mean, obviously wearing a 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: helmet does not look cute with the outfit, right, but 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: like you have to you have to wear a helmet 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: when you're doing something like that. So she fell and 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: hit her head, and they came and examined her right 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: away and suggested that she go to the hospital. But 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: she felt fine, and all of a sudden she started 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, she was fine for a while, and then 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: she started having a really bad headache. And because they 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: were so far away from a local trauma center, she 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: was not able to be brought to the hospital in time, 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: and she ended up dying from a brain bleed. And 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: if she would have went to the hospital as soon 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: as she hit her head at the advice of the paramedics, 56 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: she would likely still be alive today. I'm actually surprised 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: that it's not required that trauma centers have to be 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: near ski resorts, because don't you think they often have accidents, 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: and when there are accidents, they are typically a little catastrophic, 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: meaning people breaking limbs or having severe concussion. Well, it 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: seemed that she was at first. This happened in Canada, 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: so that's I mean, everything's so spread apart there, you know, 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: because it's just so big up there, and they were 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: two hours by car from a trauma center, so I 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm sure that they do medical flights or 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: something like that. I'm not sure how that works, but 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: she I mean, yeah, I guess if you need a 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: cute medical attention, that could be a problem. But something 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: something like a head injury like that where you have 70 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: to have blood evacuate from your skull, you definitely want 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: to be at a place that's used to doing something 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: like that. So she had an epidoral bleed. So what 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: happened is that this is a bleed that occurs above 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: the dora mater, which is the covering that covers your brain. 75 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: It's like a thick, fibrous kind of blanket that covers 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: your brain. And when the blood vessel is injured during 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: the fall. In most cases, if that vessel, for example, 78 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: is severed, like in I don't know, if you get 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: in a car accident you hit your head in that 80 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: sweet spot, you usually bleed to death pretty quickly because 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: that's an artery and when arteries are severed, every single 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: time your heart beats, the blood pours out right. But 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: in your skull, your brain is already filling up so 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: much of the space, so there's not much more space 85 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: for blood to go. And what happens is that this 86 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: clot starts getting bigger and bigger bigger, and starts pressing 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: down on your brain, and it could push your brain 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: down so much that it goes to the respiratory centers 89 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: of the brain and starts turning off your ability for 90 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: your brain to make your lungs work to function. So 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: with her, she must not have had a super serious 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: tear because she took hours to die. In fact, she 93 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: was finally brought to the hospital and was alive for 94 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: two days. They were able to at least keep her 95 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: alive for two days until she finally died from it. 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming she had surgery to try to evacuate 97 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: the clop but the damage was already done by the 98 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: time she got there. So that's why I really think 99 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: that just because of how long it took her to 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: get this severe headache, I think that if she went 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: to the hospital right away, there would definitely have been 102 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: a chance for her to survive. And what's really sad 103 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: about it is, at the time of her death, she 104 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: had two little kids, right, and she was married to 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Liam Neeson and apparently he hasn't dated since she died. 106 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shocked by that, especially because he was 107 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: kind of known to have a bunch of star set 108 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: of relationships, including Barber Streis and Brookshields, Helen Buren, and 109 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: Janis Dickinson, who will get to in a minute. But 110 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: I think that, like everybody's just so excited that he's 111 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: with Pamela Anderson because they are fifteen years apart in age, 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: but it is seemingly more age appropriate. He's in his 113 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: early seventies. Oftentimes you see men in their early seventies 114 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: dating twenty or thirty year olds. She's fifty eight, So 115 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: I think in Hollywood that's still considered an age appropriate relationship. 116 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: You know, she's been through the ringer with everything that 117 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: happened with Tommy Lee and everything that happened with the 118 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: sex tape scandal, the show coming out pam and Tommy 119 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: and her not liking that her writing her memoir and 120 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: how that so deeply affected her. So I think it's 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: really cool to see that they got really close on 122 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: the set of the movie and now they're dating, and 123 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: I think it's really cute. 124 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: It is so cute, and it's so cute that he 125 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: didn't date anyone. Like to me, I'm like, Okay, he 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: really like loved his wife and was traumatized by that. 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, and apparently like he did a post with 128 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: her and Natasha Richardson's sister, like what is all for 129 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: the relationship apparently, which also is a really good sign 130 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: because he's obviously been dad to these kids who are 131 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: now grown ups theyeather my age. Yeah, and like, I 132 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: mean just focused on his career and his children and 133 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: his family. But he deserves to have love too, and 134 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: she's the best person to do it with. Now let's 135 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: talk about the article that came out with Janis Dickenson. 136 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I was saying when Ozzy Osbourne died, 137 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: Like these these articles always have the surface about these 138 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: totally rare. 139 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone keeps coming out of the woodwork. 140 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, So now that he's all been all 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: up in the news and everything, jan Is Dickenson had 142 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: apparently said that he has the biggest penis she's ever 143 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: seen and equated it to an evy on bottle. 144 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, good for Pam. Well, I think that he beyond bottle. 145 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: That's nice. I mean, like, who, like what would make 146 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: her think? Like you know what, like I have to 147 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: just put this out there. 148 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, an interesting development. I think Jana Is Dickens and 149 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: is hilarious for Sage, and she doubled down on it too. 150 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: She said it, I guess for the first time in 151 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and five. They had dated really briefly or 152 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: maybe just hooked up in the late eighties early nineties, 153 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: and then she doubled down on it, saying it was 154 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: indeed the biggest she's ever seen. So that's good for 155 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: Pam and Pam it seems like everybody's fully in support 156 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: of this. Andy Cohen, who was also really close to 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: Natasha Richardson, was so excited about it. He had them 158 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: both on Watch What Happens Live last week and it 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: was really cute to see them interact with each other. 160 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: And I just think it's really nice and everybody's for it, 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: and hopefully they've you know, had love again after both 162 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: kind of going through traumatic things on their own. 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, let me say a side note to Tom uh. 164 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Pamela Anderson's boys are like very handsome. 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: They are very cute. 166 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see Liam Neeson's kids. I actually 167 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: wanted to look them up to see what they look 168 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: like if they look like Natasha, But her sons are 169 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: like really handsome. 170 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean I mean they're from beautiful, very good. 171 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: I know, it's just it's just a side note. 172 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: She like, we need to remember too that like she 173 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: she had plastic surgery at some point, but before she did, 174 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: she was drop dead gorgeous. I mean, this is what 175 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: people like. She was hired as a model without having 176 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: all the fillers and everything. 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: She was discovered on a jumbo tron at like a 178 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: game in Canada, and. 179 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: Then she became the Bats Girl, and then she started 180 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: working for a Playboy. I mean, her memoir is really good. 181 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: I read it a couple of years ago when or 182 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: whenever it came out, maybe it was last summer or 183 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: the summer before. It's very good. Her documentary is very 184 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: good that follows up. I did think that show Pam 185 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: and Tommy was good, even though it really upset her 186 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: that they were telling her story. But I did think 187 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: it really shined a good light on her and didn't 188 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: make her look, you know, bad, like everybody of course 189 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: made her the villain in that story when she did 190 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: nothing wrong. So I think this lady's really gone through it, 191 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: and hopefully this is think about that. That would upset 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: me too if someone was just like, oh, you're still 193 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: alive and I'm going to make a movie about your 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: side of the story like that. 195 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: That's like not cool. No, definitely enough people. I guess 196 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: people do that all the time with books and stuff 197 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: like that. Like it's just I could understand that you 198 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: would feel visibly upset about that. 199 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: Well, this is like you know, that show The Crown 200 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: was incredible. And then Megan Markle was like, if you 201 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: say anything about us, I'm gonna sue you Netflix. And 202 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, oh, like you wish you were a 203 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: character on a show that had all these awards. Get 204 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: a life. Okay, let's go on this next one. So 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: the FDA is issued a warning after Celsius energy drink 206 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,239 Speaker 2: cans were accidentally filled with vodka. 207 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: It's more alarming, like how this happened. 208 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: I feel like there had to be some major break 209 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: in whoever was checking at the plant, like wherever they 210 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: are filling these things and canning them, because don't you 211 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: think this would happen all the time. They're trying to 212 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: blame the packaging supplier for sending the wrong cans to 213 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: High Noon, who accidentally filled the Celsius cans. 214 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: With their vodka product. 215 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: And now they've had to recall all these cans of 216 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: Celsius and high Noon because they got filled with the 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: wrong drinks. 218 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: So I'm really curious how they figured this out. 219 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I just want to say, the 220 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: packaging doesn't look anything. They're not even similar looking. So 221 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: nobody at the high Noon plant was like, these aren't 222 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: our cans. 223 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: They look I don't know that it's I don't know 224 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: that that's how it works. Like listen, I'm just and 225 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea how these things work. I'm just 226 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: gonna give you an example of my only experience with this. Remember, 227 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: I went on, like you know, in Pennsylvania you could 228 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: go on a tour of the Herze potato chip factory. Yes, 229 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: And I went there and I was surprised that in 230 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: one room they were packaging tostitos. That's what they're called, right, 231 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: the chips that are one room was toastedos on one machine, 232 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: and then like on the other side of the room 233 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: there was another machine that had packaging from Wegmans that 234 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: was the same kind of chips, tortilla chips. And I 235 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: was just like, wow, this is weird. Is this just 236 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the same kind of chips that go into each bag? 237 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: And you just pay more for whatever's on the bag. Yeah, 238 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: But like the people that work at Hers, I assume 239 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: just get the delivery of the packages and they put 240 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: it on the machine and start doing it. So it's 241 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: like and Hers is a different situation. Like these canning companies. 242 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: They might have huge warehouses that do soda and all 243 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: this other stuff too, Like the workers just get what 244 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: they're supposed to get and like fill it. It might 245 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: not just be like specifically for that one brand, you 246 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's what I'm trying to say. 247 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: Wrong shipments can happen all the time. I don't know 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: what happened. I'm just curious, like, did it get discovered 249 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: after someone purchased it and figured it out? Is that 250 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: when it got discovered? I don't know, But. 251 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: Well it got distributed because they're saying. 252 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Exactly, So that's what I'm thinking. Like someone called them 253 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: and was just like okay, like I just drank your 254 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: product and it has vaka in it and I'm like 255 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: feeling it. 256 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, So it's that the products were shipped to retailers 257 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: in Florida to New York, Ohio, South Carolina, Virginia, and 258 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: Wisconsin between July twenty first and July twenty third, So 259 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: the astro Vibe Blue Jazz Blue Ras flavor of Celsius 260 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: has been recalled, as well as High Nun's Beach Variety packs. 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: So my question is, we know the vodka is in 262 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: the Celsius cans, but did the Celsius get put in 263 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: the High Noon can? 264 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, but the High Noon is saying that they're recalled, 265 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: but they're safe to drink, which I'm kind of like, 266 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: what about people with heart with heart conditions and stuff exactly, Like, yeah, 267 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: it's it's safe to drink, except that it's an energy 268 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: drink that you probably don't want if you have a 269 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: heart condition. And obviously, like children shouldn't be drinking the 270 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: energy drinks either, But I know sometimes not sometimes, every 271 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: single time we go on a road trip, Gabe always 272 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: buys the disgusting red bull. I can't even stand the 273 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: smell of it. It's just just so gross, but he 274 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: drinks it because like we have to drive ten hours 275 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. But like people do that, right, you get 276 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: it at the comedience store. Like what if you're drinking 277 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: that and then all of a sudden you feel like 278 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: a buzz? Well, yeah, I mean, I wonder if that's 279 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, listen, they have like four point 280 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: five percent alcohol in them, which is equivalent to like 281 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: less than a beer. Right, It's it's not a lot. 282 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: And I could say I've drank high nuons before, but 283 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: they don't taste anything like what an energy drink would take. 284 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I guess they taste so similarly. 285 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: They taste so differently, but you wouldn't know that unless 286 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: you had both. Right, So, like let's say you had 287 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: a high Noon for the first time, you might not 288 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: realize it's an energy drink versus the drink and vice versa. 289 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: But the lot codes are listed online, so I advise 290 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: you go check those and make sure if you've bought 291 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: any of these drinks in between this time, and just kiss. 292 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: You if you brought the high Noon in a cooler 293 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to the beach to sit there all day and like 294 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: get drunk and you drank like three or four of 295 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: them and didn't get anything. 296 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: Or you had a heart attack because you just drank 297 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: for any exact exactly what happened to me. So I 298 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 299 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: Like, no, it's interesting because like a lot of like 300 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: in hindsight, we could look and be like, oh, i'd 301 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: be able to tell the difference. But if you're drinking 302 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: what it says is in the can, wouldn't you just 303 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: be like I don't know why. I'm just like not 304 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: getting drunk at all. I just don't feel it, but 305 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: like my heart's about to pound out of my chest. 306 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Like that's why I'm really curious, like how it got discovered. 307 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Did someone drink for them and go to the emergency 308 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: room with like heart palputations and a caffeine overdose, or 309 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: did someone crash their car because they thought they were 310 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: drinking and energy drink and it was really vogue. I 311 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: don't know. 312 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: So even last week, I feel like it was on Thursday. 313 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: I have two coffees every single day. I have one 314 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: right when I wake up, and then I have one 315 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: in the early afternoon, and then I have my early 316 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: afternoon one. And I texted Rickie and I was like, 317 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I can run around the neighborhood twenty 318 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: five times. It was that gross, you know, I explain it, 319 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: and this sounds idiotic, Like your blood is hard, like 320 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: everything just stiffens in your body and your heart's pounding. 321 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: That's how I feel when I have like a caffeine overdose. 322 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: It is the grossest feeling in the world. It hasn't 323 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: happened to me in so long, but I just imagine 324 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: drinking a couple of these, thinking it's just a vodka drink, 325 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: and then you're just all of a sudden, like, what 326 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: is wrong with me? What is happening? This is the 327 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: worst feeling ever. 328 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 329 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: This sucks for anybody that had to go through it. 330 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Wait, so let me tell you the funniest meme that 331 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: I've been seeing going around like for this. It's like 332 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: it's like from the original Willy Wonka in the Chocolate 333 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: Factory movie from like the seventies or eighties whenever that 334 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: came out, and it's Charlie Bucket holding up the Golden ticket, 335 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: and it's like me hoping that I get the Celsius 336 00:17:52,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: with the vocket. It's like so funny. 337 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: This episode is brought to you by the Grossroom. 338 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Guys. We did hul Cogan death to section this week. 339 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what we're gonna do next week. The 340 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: celebrities have been dropping like flies around here, so maybe 341 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: somebody will die this week. If not, we might do 342 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: some stories that we've had on the back burner for 343 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: The Grossroom Live. We did an hour episode but I 344 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: guess we call it an episode last week, and we 345 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: talked about lots of different things that are going on 346 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: in the Grossroom and just anything that members want to 347 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: talk about. But we also talked about that horrible story 348 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: of that couple that got murdered in front of their children, 349 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: as well as the sarrogacy scandal I guess you would say, 350 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: or the loophole in the sarrogacy that a sex offender 351 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: was able to create a child through sarrogacy and is 352 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: now a parent and was able to bypass all that. 353 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: So check that out in the Grossroom. 354 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Head over to the Grossroom dot com now to sign up. 355 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: Okay, this is a cool story. 356 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: So the world's oldest baby has been born after a 357 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: couple adopted an embryo that was frozen in nineteen ninety 358 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: four and now the baby was just born on July 359 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: twenty sixth. 360 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Another good meme that's been going around is just like, 361 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: imagine that you could have had a cool childhood growing 362 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: up in the nineties and now you were born into 363 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: this this kid's this kid should be your age. 364 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this this embryo does have a thirty year 365 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: old sister. So the history behind this was that embryo 366 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: was originally created in nineteen ninety four to a couple. 367 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: They ended up getting four embryos in total, and they 368 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: had one which resulted in a daughter who is also 369 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: now the mother of a ten year old herself, so 370 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: that's kind of cool. So they divorced and the mother 371 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: was awarded custody of the embryos. She eventually found out 372 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 2: about this embryo adoption program went forward with that. So 373 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 2: now this couple had adopted that embryo and they had 374 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: their transfer day last November, and now they have. 375 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Given birth to the baby. So this baby is born 376 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: and is now already an uncle to a ten year old. Yeah, basically, 377 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: it's so weird. It's like this story is so just 378 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: like really hard to process. So this is a question 379 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: that I want to ask you. They the husband, her 380 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: and the husband got divorced, right, yeah, and she won 381 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: custody of embryos, which is just weird to think of 382 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: because they are humans. Which now it's a human, So 383 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: this guy now has another kid walking around that. I mean, 384 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: like he didn't have any say over if that was 385 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: going to be made into another human or not. I 386 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I feel about that. 387 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: That would have had to been discussed in the custody 388 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: agreement because when you go through IVF, there is so 389 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: much paperwork attached to it with what happens to the 390 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: embryos and what's to happen if you have leftovers and 391 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: how long they keep them. I mean, you have to 392 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: pay for them to be in storage. 393 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: But if the wife had costody all the embryos, then 394 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: like in my opinion, like the guy, the actual like 395 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: DNA father wouldn't have been involved at all. Yeah, he 396 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: would have had. 397 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: I mean, he would have had the sign off that 398 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: she could do whatever she wanted with them. Because there 399 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: was a really uh like not high profile necessarily because 400 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how much is well known information, but 401 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: I've talked about it on here before with Sophia and Vigara, 402 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: the actress, her and her ex husband had some embryos 403 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: and after they got divorced, he had wanted to go 404 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: forward and have them with either by himself or with 405 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: his new wife or girlfriend or whatever, and she did 406 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: not want that, and then they ended up going to 407 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: court over it, and the embers were destroyed as a result, 408 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: so you have. 409 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: To that's I mean, I don't blame her for that 410 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: at all. No, I mean you. 411 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: When you go through this process, there is so much 412 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: paperwork involved detailing exactly what happens in pretty much every 413 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: single scenario. 414 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: So it's actually kind of weird that, Like I could 415 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: see in a normal person that you would want to 416 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: do something like that because IVF is so expensive, But 417 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: when you're a person that's multi millionaires, it don't you 418 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: think it's a little weird that he got he I 419 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: believe they only got divorced because she didn't didn't she 420 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: like not want to have kids or something. 421 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 2: Well, that was with Jomayan Janella, who was her husband 422 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: after him her second husband, oh okay, maybe her third. 423 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: I don't know it was that break up. I'm not 424 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: that same guy. 425 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm mixing up husbands then, No, But regardless, like like, 426 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: why would why would someone want to have a baby 427 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: of the X? 428 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's like you've already gone through it 429 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: all and it's expensive. I don't know what this guy 430 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: was trying to do. I think in some and I'm 431 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: not saying this is what he was doing. I think 432 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: in some cases it could be nefarious, like you want 433 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: to go forward and have this baby and then go 434 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: after the other parent for child support. 435 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: But that's why they cover it all, and that just 436 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: like creepy, Like I'm not over this person. I don't know, 437 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: Like it's like I'm sir. Money isn't an object with 438 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: these people. I mean, I understand, like whatever ibfs, like 439 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars or forty thousand dollars a pop or 440 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is, but like that's that's like four one 441 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: hundred dollars sauce, you know what I mean. 442 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: Like it's just yeah, I don't really yeah, I don't 443 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: really know. But I think the point of this story 444 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: is it's kind of coming up about how there's a 445 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: lot of I don't know if this is the right word, 446 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: but like I don't want to say waste necessarily because 447 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: I don't their they're lives, right, But there's a lot 448 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: of embryos that aren't able to be implanted in people 449 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: and they end up getting destroyed. So I guess they're 450 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: really encouraging people to have extra embryos to try to 451 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: put them up for adoption so they at least come 452 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: to fruition and they're not just destroyed. So I can 453 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: see that. But at the same time, not everybody going 454 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: through it is going to be comfortable with their biological 455 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: child going to somebody else. 456 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know someone that's in a situation like 457 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: that that there's extra embryos and but but like that 458 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: also puts into account that their children would have full 459 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: biological siblings somewhere else, and that might put complexity into 460 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: the child's life. I mean, that could be a great 461 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: thing to find out that you have a sibling later 462 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: in life, or even to know about it your whole life, 463 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: but it also it adds complexity, and well, I'm wonderful 464 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: might not want to induce that. 465 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: I wonder about it with twenty three and me right 466 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: when these tests start coming out and you start revealing 467 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: all these infidelities that happened over the last couple of 468 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: decades that were never previously revealed. But this adds that 469 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: extra level of complex like, oh, no, I had extra 470 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: embryos and I wanted to donate them, so you do 471 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: have a full blooded sibling out there. But I did 472 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: the right thing. There was no fair or anything like that. 473 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: But it's I mean, we're just gonna see this with 474 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: IVF over time. It's I think IVF is such a 475 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: hot topic right now, and it's kind of hard to 476 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: believe that it first happened in the late seventies. I 477 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: have a hard time even computing that it's that far back, 478 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: and to see that a baby that was frozen or 479 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: I guess people a lot of people working in the 480 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: field don't want you to call an embryo a baby 481 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: because it's not like a fully developed baby, so I 482 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: shouldn't use that terminology. To see an embryo developed from 483 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four and come to fruition in twenty twenty 484 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: five is kind of insane scientifically, and it's really awesome 485 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: that they're even able to do that, it really is. 486 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: It's just like it's I just can't really wrap my 487 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: brain around around it. It's all. It's just kind of 488 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: weird to think. I mean, I guess every per and 489 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: that goes through IVF, though to some extent, unless you're 490 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: getting the thing put in you right away, is like 491 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: you're kind of messing with the dates of when it 492 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: would actually it was supposed to be born, when it 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: was created kind of thing. 494 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's there's fresh and frozen transfers, so I 495 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: actually think most people go through frozen transfers, so at 496 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: some point that embryo is frozen. And yeah, you are 497 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: just not on the same timeline because I think even 498 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: after you do the retrieval and the time it takes 499 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: for the embryos to develop, you're just still off course 500 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: from when it would happen naturally. And then people can 501 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: get you know, I've seen stories where people get like 502 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: fifteen embryos or something crazy off of one yield. So 503 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: then they're just kind of sitting there. Yeah, and you 504 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: have to I wonder if this woman you have to 505 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: pay for the storage for them every year, So like 506 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: I wonder if this woman was paying the storage fee 507 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: every singing a lot. I think it's a couple hundred 508 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: dollars a year. I mean, that's not cheap for a 509 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: lot of people. I guess it's just I mean, this 510 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: isn't even anywhere on the same level. But like when 511 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: I had the kids breast milk in the freezer, right like, 512 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: even when they were totally off of it, I still 513 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: had some left and it was in the freezer and 514 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 2: I just was like, I can't throw this out, Like 515 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: I didn't throw it out for like years because I 516 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: was like, I feel weird throwing this out, like it's 517 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: the same it's it's the same kind of thing, Like 518 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: you're you're gonna pay for it, because it's not even 519 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. It's on a totally different level. 520 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: But like if you don't pay for it, they're gonna 521 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: get destroyed, right, So like you have to do it, yeah, 522 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: because you like in the paperwork, it addresses every possible scenario, 523 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: like what happens if you don't pay, like if you 524 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: can send to them being donated or whatever like that. 525 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: So I do think it's cool because the couple that 526 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: ended up adopting the embryo had been trying for seven years. 527 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: So it's definitely a nice story to see because I 528 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: can't even imagine how terrific that is, just like that's 529 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: such an incredibly long time to be going through something 530 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: like that. 531 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Jeez. 532 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about this study with breast 533 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: implants and heart disease. 534 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: All right, So this is a study. It's not really 535 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: unnecessarily a study, but it's a case report that I 536 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: came across that I wanted to share with you. Guys. 537 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: It was done in the Journal of American College and Cardiology. 538 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Case reports a fifty year old woman. She presented with 539 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: symptomatic sinoatrial node dysfunction. So that sinoatriol or SA node 540 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: is considered to be like the natural pacemaker of the heart, 541 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: and when there is a problem with that, it could 542 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: give you an atypical heartbeat, or an irregular heartbeat, or 543 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: an a arrhythmia. So they started working her up to 544 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: see exactly like what was causing her to have this, 545 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: and during the work up they found out that she 546 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: had silicone breast implants that were had leaked. And not 547 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: only did it get within her lymph no tissue that 548 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: they buy up seed and saw underneath of the microscope. 549 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: They were able to see this material under the microscope 550 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: that was foreign material consistent with silicone, but also it 551 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: was within the heart muscle as well. And it's the 552 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: first described case of this happening. But I just thought 553 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of cool to tell you guys about. 554 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: So do you think that everybody with breast implants is 555 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: at risk of this or this is just a really 556 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: unusual sn I just think I think they think that 557 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: it's an unusual scenario. One of the things that they 558 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: were bringing up was was basically, you know, if you 559 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: do have breast implants, it can trigger inflammatory syndromes, and 560 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: in this case, it's that's been described before in other 561 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: parts of the body, but it just was interesting that 562 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 2: it affected the heart as well in this woman. So 563 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: they took the silicone breast implants out and they she 564 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: didn't get really much better until they put her on 565 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: some high dosage immune drugs as well as steroids, and 566 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: that was able to kind of get it a little 567 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: bit under control. Sorry, I just lost my train of 568 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: thought I was thinking about because she's pretty young, being 569 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: only fifty years old, so I wouldn't think, you know, 570 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 2: just thinking about breast implants and things like that. I 571 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: believe that the ones that were really known to leak 572 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: came out well before this woman was of age to 573 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: get breast implants. So I'm just curious of what kind 574 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: of particular implant because that was a really big thing 575 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: back in the seventies and eighties with leaking silicone breast implants, 576 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: which is why, like speaking of Pam Anderson in this episode, 577 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 2: I feel like she always had Remember there was this 578 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: period of time with the breast implants that everyone was 579 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: getting sale and they just had this very like like 580 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: water balloon look to them. They just didn't really look 581 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: very natural and stuff because everybody was so scared of silicone. 582 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: But then they switched over to a better kind of silicon. 583 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: So she's just in a like a weird age group. 584 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: To be having something like this. But I don't know 585 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: if she had them in this country or whatever. I 586 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: don't know any of that, but it's just curious, and 587 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the we wrote a whole entire in the 588 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: Grosser Room, a high profile dissection on silicone breast implant 589 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: illness or just breast implant illness in general, and how 590 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: it's not really recognized for the most part by the 591 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: medical community, but there's just so many people who swear 592 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: that they're having problems with them. And there's definitely been 593 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: document case documentation in some cases of lymphoma's associated with 594 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: some I believe, I don't know if it was implants 595 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: or tissue expanders, but regardless that, that's like a really 596 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: interesting read. We went through all of the different associations 597 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: and case studies of people that were claiming to have 598 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: breast implant on this. 599 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: All right, Let's wrap up with this story, which is insane. 600 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: During the bar exam, a graduate went into our favorite 601 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: term cardiac arrest while the test was going on, and 602 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: they did not stop the test. 603 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: All right, So, I don't know I could go both 604 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: ways on this. I guess it was. Is the bar 605 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: exam two days? It seems like it was two days, 606 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: and it was at the end of the second day 607 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: of the test. 608 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: It was before the lunch break. They said it happened 609 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: minutes before the lunch break, which is why they're justifying 610 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: not stopping the test. But the people taking the test 611 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: are arguing, how am I supposed to concentrate when they're 612 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: trying to revive a woman that's having a medical emergency 613 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: in front of me. 614 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: This is the thing, though, when you take a test 615 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: like the bar Exam, it's like it's a big deal, 616 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: studying for months, all of that stuff, and it's very 617 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: regulated as far as how many minutes people get to 618 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: sit there. There's just like all these regulations for it. 619 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: So if you go and stop the test on the 620 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: second day in the middle of the day, when there's 621 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: only half of a day left to take the test, 622 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: then every single person there would have to retake the 623 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: test over again. They're not going to let you just 624 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: like finish another day that part. 625 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: No, I think they should have stopped the test. If 626 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: it was only a couple minutes out, they should have 627 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: stopped it when she shared having the episode and said, 628 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody leave and come back after lunch, and then they 629 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: should have added those minutes on the end of that 630 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: second half of the day and gave everybody like an 631 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: hour or two to calm down instead of trying to 632 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: work through the rest of the part they were on 633 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: while this woman's like getting revived next to them. 634 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: How are you possibly supposed to pay attention. 635 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: And ar you? 636 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: I understand that, but guess what, Like I look at 637 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: it like if this let's pretend this was doctors taking 638 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: a medical board, right and they were saying the same thing. 639 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like, well, guess what. In real 640 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: life when you're a doctor, prepare to be frazzled, Prepare 641 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: to have things thrown at you that you have to 642 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: think on your feet and be like, oh my god, 643 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: I have to ignore this totally crazy thing that's happening 644 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: right now and like focus on my job. The same 645 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: could be said about lawyers, right, Like that chick that 646 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: was a public defender that got called to be Brian 647 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: Coberger's lawyer and had to deal with him every single day, 648 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: and the nightmare she probably has every single night because 649 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: she's seen the autopsy pictures and like looked at that 650 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: guy's eyes and everything else. Like you have to be 651 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: kind of like mentally stronger than to let that side 652 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: noise that doesn't even affect you or your life at all, 653 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: to get in the way of you like concentrating on 654 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: your test. 655 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think if somebody had a medical emergency 656 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: in the middle of the courtroom, they would stop court 657 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: and put everybody on recess. 658 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't matter. We're not talking about that. 659 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: We're just talking about in general, like side things that 660 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: happened to you. 661 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: That so totally, But like seeing autopsy pictures is a 662 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: lot different than like seeing somebody possibly die right in 663 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: front of you while you're like in the middle of 664 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: a high stress test in general, So like, yeah, you 665 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: could see both. 666 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: You're a different person. Like you go to the Maryland 667 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: House on a road trip and see someone have a 668 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: heart attack in front of you, and it ruins your vacation, 669 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: Like it. 670 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 2: Didn't ruin my vacation. I just said, I don't want 671 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: to go back there again. 672 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like you get really affected by things, 673 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: and like you work around death. 674 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: It's different, Like not all lawyers are with criminal cases. 675 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: A lot of them work in like construction laws. So 676 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: she just her heart just I'm just saying it's jarring 677 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 2: as a lay person seeing a person medical episode. 678 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: Listen, this is what they this is what they should do. 679 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: They shouldn't either, I mean I do. I do disagree 680 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: with the fact that they should have just been like, 681 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: nothing to see here, let's go on. The test must 682 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: go on, right, Like they should have said to people, like, listen, 683 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to retake the test, 684 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: you can. 685 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm I don't think they need to retake the whole test. 686 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying they should. If it was ten minutes before lunch, 687 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: they should have said, go to lunch right now while 688 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: we handle this, and we're gonna add ten minutes on 689 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: the second half of the day. 690 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were they could have possibly been in 691 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: the middle of a section of a test. 692 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a special circumstance. Like I don't 693 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: think they need to retake the entire test. I think 694 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: they just needed to like let them leave and not 695 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: watch her be real in the middle of the room. 696 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: They could have given her some privacy. It's made them 697 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: sit there. 698 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: With you just because I know, like just because I've 699 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: taken a test like this, especially for for my certification 700 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's just so it's so regulated 701 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: and just to think like you would leave in the 702 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: middle of it and go back like I don't. I 703 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: don't really know what to say, because also none of 704 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: these people are going to be complaining when they get 705 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: their bar results back if they passed, but if they didn't, 706 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: then they're going to be like, no, I want that 707 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: number or rate. I don't. I don't know, Like it's 708 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: just it's kind of an unforeseen circumstance and no matter 709 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: what they did, is like just sucks. I mean, most 710 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: of the time people don't drop dead in the middle 711 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: of taking a test. 712 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: Like that, Like they should be given a pardon if 713 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: they passed, to redo it without penalty, because I think 714 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: you're only allowed to take it like twice and if 715 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: you don't pass, Oh. 716 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely they definitely should in that case. And 717 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: is it is it like a pass foul test or 718 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: is it based upon a score like is it better 719 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: if you get a higher score. I don't really know. 720 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: It Isn't it a score like EL would say one 721 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 2: to seventy nine? 722 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: Well you, yeah, but that might just be you need 723 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: a certain score to ensure you're gonna pass. 724 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're graded like A through F 725 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: But I think if you're over a certain number, then 726 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: you've passed. But if you're under, then you It's just 727 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: it's just like a very unusual circumstance. 728 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: It is. 729 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: But I don't know, Like I don't think, yeah, I 730 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: just think they could have maybe been like, you don't 731 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: need to sit here and watch this woman be resuscitated 732 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: by e a mess while you're in the middle of 733 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: taking this test that's defining your future. You can just 734 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: leave a couple of minutes earlier, go out of the 735 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 2: room and come back or something. I don't know. Okay, guys, 736 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 2: we are going to be at Crime Con from September 737 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 2: fifth to the seventh and Denver, Colorado. Please leave reviews 738 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 2: for us on Apple or Spotify, and if you have 739 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: a story for us, please submit it to stories at 740 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: Mothernosdeath dot com. 741 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: Say, guys, thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. 742 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant. 743 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy 744 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: and pathology education. 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