WEBVTT - Can humans start an earthquake? 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.880 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:07.360 It's ready. Are you welcome to you Stuff you Should 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:14.400 Know from house Stuff works dot com. This episode of 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.120 Stuff you Should Know is brought to you by Go 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.640 to Meeting. We all have to meet, but the average 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.040 cost of a single business trip is one thousand dollars. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.720 With just one click, you can save time and money 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.439 and have your meetings online with affordable and easy to 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.960 use Go to Meeting. 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I'm sure in the future will just keep 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.640 roll rotating. It's like the wheel of time. All right. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.640 I just Josh and Chuck has a ring that I enjoy. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:18.480 How about Chosh, Chuck and Matt? Yeah, with special guest 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:23.240 producer Matt. Jerry's not here to spank us when we air, no, 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.520 which means we can get away with a lot of stuff. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.480 Although I think we're self regulating these days. Yeah, we're 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:34.040 doing pretty well. Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Uh, Chuck, Yes, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.959 you want to get into it. You remember the earthquake 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.240 in May of two thousand and eight in China, Sechuan Province. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:46.319 killed like eighty thou people, I think, right? Seven point nine, Yes, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.320 the old Richter scale, right, how we pronounced it, That's 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.360 how you spoke to German. I just thought it'd be 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.920 funny if we mispronounced like even things that everybody knows, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.880 because we have a reputation for mispronouncing difficult things. All right, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.640 let's start doing it the Richter scale. Okay, well the 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:07.000 on the Richter scale, squail, can we do that? Uh 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.840 it hit? What did you say at seven point nine? Yeah? Thereabouts, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.560 and like I said, killed lady thousand people was an enormous, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:17.640 horrific earthquake, and um, very quickly, you know. I remember 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.519 MPR was there because they were like covering the Olympics, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.440 so everybody went to Sechua instead because it was right 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.040 before the Olympics. Right, we were here, We were here. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.920 But MPR did like a month of coverage on this earthquake, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.799 like everybody was talking about it. One thing that flew 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.239 under the radar that at least my radar, was that 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.040 there were and still our allegations that the earthquake was 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.079 actually um man made, at least hastened by a man 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:49.160 made structure, specifically the you're pointing at me, the zipping 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:54.760 zip zipping poo damn, something like that, pooping poo. Yeah, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.360 that's something like that. Yeah, flee below my radar too. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.320 I had no idea about this. Did you see that? 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.880 Like on a certain there's like tons of articles on it. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:06.120 They just got no play. Yeah. So, um, what we're 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:12.160 talking about is something that's called reservoir induced seismicity, Yes, right, 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.280 and to a certain degree in due size, misicity to 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.079 a greater extent. I don't know what you just said. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.440 Not only reservoirs I got a couple of other nuggets. Yeah, chuck, chuck, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.440 dug up some other man made earthquake phenomena. Right, Um, 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.800 but let's well, let's start with reservoir and du seismicity, right, 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.880 or let's start with damns. How about that? Well, that's 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.840 a good place to start. Or should we start with earthquakes? Actually, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.760 if you want to know about earthquakes, go listen to 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.840 our How Earthquakes Work podcast, which is pretty good. Did 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.760 we do that? Yeah? Yeah, I'm getting old. Days are 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.080 just kind of melting together. I was honestly thinking we 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.840 should do one on earthquakes. Yeah, we already did, remember 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.280 the s waves? Oh yeah, yeah, sure, alright, So, um, 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.720 we'll talk about dams instead. These things are, um, well, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.520 dams are getting bigger and bigger. Is our engineering prowess? Uh? 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.640 Is not ours? But humaniter is getting better and better 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.680 and our needs are growing. Right, So I think constructing 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.560 a dam in the first place, what you're doing is 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.200 you're just putting a wall up in front of a 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.640 river and letting the water back. Fell right, pretty easy. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.640 But by doing this number one, you're changing um, the 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:29.280 river hydrology downstream e g. The people downstream are in 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.520 big trouble. Um. But you're also you have to take 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.640 into account the area around um the dam, what was 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.600 normally once just dry land with a river running through it, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.200 and probably some villages. You know Lake lan Ear. I 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.800 think there's no natural lake in Georgia. They're all man 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.160 made it from what I understand. That's what I understand too. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.040 But Lake Lanear specifically has a town beneath it. And 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:59.080 when the um, when the reservoir lowers, decreases. Uh, you 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.240 can see a gulf have any sixth time popping up 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.640 out of it? Have you ever seen that? It's creepy? 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.760 That is creepy. That's why. Also they can never find 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.200 somebody who dies in likely near because they get caught 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.920 up in like power lines or in a convenience store 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:15.400 or something like that. Shopping yeah, under the water, shopping dead. Yeah. Um. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.760 But around this area and what was what used to 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.600 be dry land, there's also dirt and rock and oftentimes 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.000 mountains sometimes fall lines. Because you want to use the 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.160 natural geography of the area to hold this water. Right. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.120 You ever been to the Hoover Dam. I haven't. I've 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.920 flown over it. Does that count. I got a good 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.160 gander of it at like ten thousand feet. Yeah, if 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:39.680 you ever go this is I mean a lot of 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.360 people drive over the Hoover Dam, or they stand on 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.920 the edge of the Hoover Dam, like Bob Will suggests. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.560 But I suggest that if you're there, take the time 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.599 to pay the dough it's like, I don't know how 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.520 much it is tin bucks and go down and take 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.320 the tour. Wow. It's my only my only tip tip 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.719 of the day. I've seen it on the TV. It's 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.200 really cool looking and you can stand there and rbl 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:01.800 at it, but when you get down on the guts 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.320 of it is when you're really like whoa. Yeah. So 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.159 it's a marvel of engineering, absolutely right, And like I said, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:12.280 it utilizes the surrounding geography to hold the water. Um. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.360 But when you do this, you're applying a lot of 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.839 water that didn't used to be there to the surrounding 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.440 same mountains. Yea, And all of a sudden you have 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.200 something that we call landslides, right, yes, And that's what's 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.960 usually you think of. You don't think of earthquakes when 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.840 you think of um, that kind of activity. You think 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.440 of landslides. You want to tell them about the Italian 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.240 landslide because you love to do the accents, but do 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.120 it in a really somber tone. Well there, I'm not 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.280 gonna do it an Italian accent. But it is one 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.200 of the deadliest in history and it was in northern 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:48.000 Italy and sixty three and it killed people. An entire 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.719 village is wiped out when four hundred million cubic yards 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.800 of mountain rock fell into the reservoir. I'm not going 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:02.440 to pronounce that the v damn. Yeah, it looks French. Yeah, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.880 well it's in the Alp so it's close to France. Yeah, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.840 and it basically created a tidal wave eight hundred and 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.320 fifty six ft tall, right, So this um four hundred 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.960 million cubic yards of rock goes into the reservoir, just 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.800 places all that water. And yeah, the the wave I read, 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.800 this wave that was generated by it crested over the 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.240 top of the damn. It washer than that. It was 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.200 twenty It was equal to a twenty eight story building. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.760 Imagine that on top of the damn and it just 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.840 came down crazy and washed villages away. You're you're just 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.320 sitting there in Italy and sixty three enjoining your grappa, 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.360 having a good time. Not for long now, but apparently 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.400 it took full two minutes to get down there to 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.960 wipe out the village. How long two minutes from what 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:55.000 I read, that's like the MUDs like in Guatemala, no warning. No, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.520 And there's also some in China that apparently have been 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.200 pretty disastrous thanks to it. A damn there, the three 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.320 gorgeous damn, which is pretty famous. Dam it's on the 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.800 Yanks River, right, Yeah, they were kind of worried about 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.160 that one. Yeah, and they kind of should be from 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.680 what I understand. Uh As whenever just about any time 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.960 they raise or lower the um the reservoir or when 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.720 they initially filled it, landslide started happening. And there was 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.800 one in two thousand seven that buried a bus. I 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.040 guess it just kind of caught him unawares. What a 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:29.000 horrific death to be buried in a bus, but well, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.760 to be buried alive in any way, but bus would 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.439 probably be badly bus You ever taking a bus trip? Yes, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.080 I would not want to bury a bus trip, Nor 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.960 would I because you're like, I can't believe I'm surrounded 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.400 by these people while I'm alive, you know. Yeah, not 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.640 to make light of it. No, when to come across 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.760 as insensitive. No, so chuck. Um, these are just landslides 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.679 we're talking about. That's that's a totally different you know, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:58.160 destabilizing the dirt that holds up mountain rock is totally 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.640 different from an earthquake. Right. Indeed, so how do we 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:06.920 get to uh, the reservoir induced seizedmicity? How do we 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.080 how do we get to a dam creating an earthquake? Well, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.679 in the case of the one in China, um, the 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.760 Zipping Poo dam. It's fifty stories tall. It can store 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.160 more than one billion cubic meters of water from the 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.040 min Jong River. So all of a sudden you have 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.199 a regular river and then all of a sudden it 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.480 weighs you know, a billion cubic meters more. Well, that's 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.360 not a weight, but you know what I mean. So 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.559 that's gonna create some a lot more pressure on the 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.120 ground beneath it. Right, there's a fault line there, then 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.000 you're in big trouble. Yeah, and um, we don't really 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.439 know whether there are fault lines there. Um, when we're 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.120 constructing dams. It turns out, apparently there is a survey 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.400 in n by the World Bank that found that forty 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.839 nine projects, like more than three quarters of them that 0:09:54.920 --> 0:10:00.400 were surveyed all had unexpected geology geological activity, right, And 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.760 apparently it costs millions of millions to do a survey 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:07.800 of an area and you may find that, yeah, there's 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.760 a fault line there that we didn't know about. So 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.599 companies who build damns oftentimes don't want to know that 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.680 whether or not there's a fault line there. I've seen 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.400 that that not a lot of research goes in well, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:18.880 I don't want to say not a lot of research, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:24.320 but many times not enough research goes into the underground situations. Right. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.719 And for the three gorgeous um damn there were there. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.000 Actually it's built over two fault lines and they're just 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.080 waiting for this thing to blow apparently, Yeah, and they 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.599 said it might be a big one too. So with 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.040 the two thousand and eight earthquake, China kind of got 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.440 into this issue of reservoir induce seismicity, and it's already 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.200 kind of cloudy. It's kind of one of those um walks, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.640 like a duck scenarios, because you have um, you have 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.360 increased seismic activity in areas as reservoirs are being filled, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:59.440 you have um earthquakes that that people weren't expecting, right obviously, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:04.839 but even geologists weren't expecting seismologists um with an epicenter 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.959 under the dam. Right, So it's like, yes, damns are 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.480 creating earthquakes, um. But again there's a lot of money 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.520 at stake. If people become more aware of r I s, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.800 which is what people in the NO call it, then 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:24.640 people who live downstream from a dam are gonna want 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.960 their houses earthquake proof, which is gonna raise the costs 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.000 through the roof. And they're not gonna do that, right, 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.640 And like I said, with China now and it's it's 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.280 become obviously scated even further. Yeah, because in a case 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.560 of China, there's probably a lot of houses that need 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.080 to be retrofitted. Well, not just that the the government's 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.760 politically in the hot seat right now and the earthquake 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.120 in two thousand and eight, they tried to distance themselves 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.040 because it was a government project. And building a damn 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.720 in and of itself is it's a very utilitarian pursuit. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.360 If a dam can create an earthquake and kill people 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.920 or their landslides, and that kills people because you're helping, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.800 you know, x number of people, Like the Zipping Pooh 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:11.360 dam generates like sixty kilowatts kilowatt hours of electricity. Oh yeah, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.079 sure you do. But at the same time, so it's 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.920 kind of like, Okay, well there's a bus full of 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.160 people that just got buried, but we have all this electricity. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:21.679 So when you throw that in, when you throw the 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.520 money in and then um, paper in the journal, uh, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.559 the Journal of Environmental Law and Litigation. Do you get 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.079 that it sounds like a it does? It concluded that 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.840 people in other countries who were um affected by reservoir 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.160 and in due seismicity from American built dams had legal 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:47.680 grounds to see those people in the US for damages. Basically, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:48.959 there's a lot of people out there who are like 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.839 rs doesn't exist, but it does. Yeah, uh. And you 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.400 know it's not just the water pressure sitting on top 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.640 of these plates that can cause it. What also happens 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.040 is the water seeps down in there and fills up 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.720 all the little cracks. And if there's way more water 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.600 doing this, then that can cause uh, fractures to become 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.760 larger or to shift around, and that you know, that 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.520 might be one of the reasons to right. And it 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.520 also lubricates, it doesn't it. It goes down to these 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.400 faulans because you think about it, like you have tectonic plates, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.800 you have fault lines where the earth is basically sitting 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.160 like just on the tiniest ledge of one plate over another, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.840 and if you get some water in there and loop 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.600 it up, then they slip and you have an earthquake. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.679 It's called poor pressure, my friend. It's poor pressure is 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.880 the fluid pressure in the pores and the fractures of 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.599 the rocks, and um the acts against the weight of 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.960 the rocks. So when poor pressure is low, the imbalance 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.040 of what they call it in situ earth. Have you 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.439 ever heard that phrase? Uh doesn't mean like um stable 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.920 bedrock or something like that sort of it's Latin egg. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.319 It can mean a bunch of different things, but in 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.880 case of the Earth, it means uh. In the place 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.760 is in water or oil that hasn't been extracted yet 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.959 oh yeah, yeah yeah, or gas. Let's say, whatever is 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.040 down there, any kind of natural earth. UM. So the 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.480 imbalance of the institute earth stresses UH will cause the 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.319 occasional earthquake. And if the poor pressure is increased, then 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.360 it takes a lot less of an imbalance for these 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.880 to get out of whack. And one of the reasons 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.680 that that might happen is if you inject something into 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.640 the subsurface, or if you extract something from the subsurface, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:34.760 like maybe oil or water or gas. Yea. And that 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.360 all made sense because I've I've often posed the question 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.920 does the earth need it's oil, Like, you know, we're 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.240 extracting oil, but maybe it has a really vital function 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.000 down there, maybe it's a lubricant. I kind of found 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.920 out that that wasn't necessarily true that you know, if 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.520 we pull out all the oil from me, well, we 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.000 can't pull out all the oil. I think it leaves 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.360 about a third they they leave at least a third 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.720 in all reservoirs because we just don't have the technology 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:03.320 to get But what I what I gathered from researching 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.320 this a little bit today is that it doesn't necessarily 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.280 it's such a small amount still compared to the density 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.240 of the earth that these like small empty pockets might 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.160 make things move around and cause like some minor tremors, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.280 But it's not like we're going to have the big 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.480 one one day if we tap the oil out of 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.160 the earth. But we also use like water injection technology 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.120 to BINGO and that can cause an earthquake, right, Yeah, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.120 and that's when you you inject like steam or water 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.560 or c O two to either move the oil around 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.720 or heat it up make it more viscous, and that 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.480 means it will flow to a channel where it's easier 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.960 to tap it. Or they do that for water wells too, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.400 to make water more readily available. I think there were 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.320 some earthquakes and surprising earthquakes in Colorado in the nineties 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.760 that had to do with natural gas drilling. Yeah. Well, 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.480 you know the other thing they do is they inject 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.600 waste water into the earth. I did not know that. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.960 I didn't either. I always wondered where it went. Well, 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.440 a lot of they read assume we were all drinking it. Well, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.160 I think it's a certain amount we do, but there's 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.840 way more wastewater than there are mouths to drink it. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.680 So evidently they'll drill down into the earth and inject. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.320 They'll supposedly clean it. They supposedly they clean it. Yeah, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.520 I've never witnessed it. But why would they lie? Why 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.080 would they lie? I don't know. I mean, who would 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.120 lie when money is at stakes? So they inject the 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.960 waste water back into the earth. And that's you know, 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.840 hasn't create any problems thus far. Yeah, yet, who knows. Uh, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.000 there was I remember we talked about like carbon sequestration. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.960 Uh once were we were talking about taking C O two, remember, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.400 capturing it from smoke stacks and then putting it into 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.640 the and we were wondering, like, what what effect is 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.280 that going to have? Who knows? Probably well, we'll all 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.920 find out what when we do hit the big ones 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.560 from removing oil and then injecting like carbon c O 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.280 two into the earth, what happens. So many of these 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.320 studies are all like, O, don't no, it's not doing anything. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.920 But like I'm of the belief that holding a cell 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.879 phone up to your brain it's gonna cause some damage. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.399 Another saying no, it doesn't. But we haven't studied anyone 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.840 who's done it for thirty years every day, right, Yeah, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.840 it's a good point. And then I found like a 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.000 little computer, you know, I know it's like d d 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:17.880 D D D d D. I think we're gonna see 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.680 some fallout from that in about years. Brother, you know, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.040 conger over it stuff. Mom never told you wrote it? Uh? 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.760 An article on cell phones making a sterile, keep it 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.280 in your pocket, yeah, next to the boys. Yeah, I 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.280 don't want to do that, so chuck. One more thing. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.960 We should say very specifically that even though people it 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:43.359 seems like there is a consensus that r S does exist, right, yes, um, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.080 and there's a lot of people who want to downplay it. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.480 Like the Chinese pointed out that prior to this earthquake 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.760 that the in in such Uan in two thousand and eight, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.320 the biggest r a S linked earthquake happened in nineteen 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:01.359 sixty seven in India and it was like six point 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.040 five and they point that that was the biggest ever 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.399 that was induced by a dam. So we're not entirely 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:13.360 certain how how how big these things can be UM 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.399 or how how much dams can contribute. But again, we 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.840 don't really know what we're doing building dams either do 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.640 we mining too that can cause them? And I also 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.960 read that UM building construction like that tower in Taipei, 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.480 that that caused some minor earthquakes because it was so big. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.280 That's gotta put hair on your chest if you're the 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.720 project manager of of of a project that causes earthquakes. Yeah, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.960 and we should also point out lastly dams can't create 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.040 earthquakes all by themselves. They have to be a bunch 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.600 of factors present. Like it has to be built on 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.800 a fault line. It has to be huge. The dam, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.840 I think, has to be at least a hundred meters 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.120 high to create earthquakes that really register. But pretty much 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.040 anytime you build a dam like around a fault line, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.000 seismic a activity increases as you fill it up. So 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.520 it's gonna happen. Yeah, we're not anti damn. We should 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:11.320 point that out. We love damns. Yeah, I guess that's it, right, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.280 I think, so, I won't have anything else. All right, Well, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.159 if you want to read a little more about this 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:21.920 and see some gripping pictures, you can type in humans 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.639 and earthquakes. I think that'll probably bring this article up right. Probably, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:30.040 So this episode of stuff you should know. It's brought 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.920 to you by go to Meeting the affordable way to 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.200 meet with clients and colleagues for your free thirty day trial. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:41.440 Is it go to meeting dot com slash stuff And 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.119 this is a short one, chucklin't it. Yeah, I have 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.879 some stuff to inject here at the end, and to 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.359 our subsurface, we have some announcements about New York, right 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.480 and T shirts. Yeah, New York. You know we're going 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.159 to New York. We're gonna like throw our hat and 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.679 do a little twirl in the middle of Times Square 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.840 because we've made it a for all. Um, we're gonna 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.600 be at the Knitting Factory. We're having a stuff you 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.959 should know meet and greet, happy fans, happy hour, come 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.239 hang out with us. Um, you pay for your own 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.760 drinks or whatever, but we're not charging anything to get in. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.399 We may or may not be wearing shirts. Uh. And 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.800 it's gonna be at the Knitting Factory. We're gonna have 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.320 shirt We're gonna have T shirts. We can go ahead 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.760 and say that that's right, we are. We're gonna have 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.040 shirts stuff you should know. T shirts the very first 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.040 ones and Josh designed it. That's how awesome. Oh go on, Yeah, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.200 it's pretty cool. Anyway. That's at the Knitting Factory in 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:38.400 Brooklyn on Monday, June seven, from five thirty seven thirty right, Yes, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.080 and a concert will follow in the main space, sponsored 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.760 by The Onion newspaper. Who are buddies now? And I 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.320 think that's like ten or twelve bucks if you want 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:47.959 to get into that and we'll be hanging out all night, 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.879 so yes, we'll be there. Um And then Wednesday, June nine, 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:56.320 we're doing an all star team trivia, yes, featuring us, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.199 Joe Randazzo, who is the editor of The Onion and End, 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:05.440 and a couple of other famous type nerdy famous people 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.480 that are funny. But we can't commit to those just 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.400 yet because we don't want to disappoint you in case 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.159 they don't show up. I guess we should tell them 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.440 where it is, right, You don't think they should just 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:18.360 like drive around New York looking for it. Uh? Yes, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.000 it's at the Bellhouse, Josh, and that is in Brooklyn, 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.960 New York. And um, it goes from seven to nine 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.520 as as trivia start to seven. Doors at six thirty, 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.040 So show up early and rub elbows with us and 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:34.160 uh drink an adult beverage with us and trivia starts 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.560 at seven. Is game on for the next two hours 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.720 and should be a really fun time right on, Chuck 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.720 sounds good, huh. And we'll also put this on the 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.480 Facebook page to just so people know. And if you're 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.720 not um a fan of ours, or if you don't 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.920 like our fan page on Facebook, go check it out. 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.360 It's um, we're on there a lot, and actually Chuck 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.480 is just killing it well talking to people. He walks 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.440