1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent. Welcome to untraditionally, Laala. Hello, 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: my love, it is Lala Kent. Welcome back to untraditionally, Lala. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I am here with oh, one of my most favorite housewives, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: and I consider you a friend through the Bravo Universe. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Christ Heather Debro or Heather Page Kent. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: Is I like to call you? Don't you love that 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: we both have the last name of Kent Okay? 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Is that your real last name? And you're you were raised? 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: You're Jewish? 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Right? 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: So is Kent a Jewish name? 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: No? So the original name was Kestenbaum and then it 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: was changed. But I am Kent Okay. So it's a 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 3: made up name, but it's mine. I didn't make it up. 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: But there was another Heather Kent in Saga and so 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: you can't copy names. That's why when you see actors 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: and they have similar names, but they put an initial 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: in the middle or something. You can't have the same name. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: Every name in Screen Actors Guild has to be unique. 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Are you my middle name which I used to use 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: in high school? Anyway, like Heather Page? 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Can it's a good name, it's a great name. 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: I oh, No, I threatened Terry sometimes if we're arguing that, 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to it. What do you 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: guys argue about? When I watch you on TV? 26 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is like the perfect this is the 27 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: perfect couple from my perspective. And I grew up in 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: like a very traditional household. My parents were married until 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: the time my dad passed away. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: And now mine too. 31 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: So you've seen was it a healthy relationship thing you saw? 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: Not? 33 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: Really? 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: No, So when you met Terry, Like, how did you 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: know that he was going to be the one that 36 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: you were? Like, this is so real that I'm willing 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: to sign a contract with you. 38 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: I didn't and that I just think that's crazy. Like 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: marriage is a leap of faith and you could do 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: the best you can, but you don't know, no, and 41 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: you are you going to grow together or are you 42 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: going to grow apart? What's what challenges are you going 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: to face in your life? You don't know. You can 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: only do the best you can. 45 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: When you're in an argument. Do you raise your voice 46 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: ever at all? 47 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm not surprise. I don't know if that's surprising. I'm 48 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: not a big yeller. Have I ever yelled? Yes? We 49 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: don't The good news is we don't fight about real things, thankfully, 50 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: we don't have these deep seated problems, or we don't 51 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: fight about money, we don't fight about I don't know 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: what else do people fight about. I don't know. 53 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: I haven't been in a relationship, or really. 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: We don't have anything that's like this deep seated, terrible 55 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: anything we fight about nonsense. But look, we've been together 56 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: twenty nine years, a long time. It is a long time. 57 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: It is a lifetime. And you have what I say 58 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: is like you have good days, bad days, good years, 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: bad years, which is true. But like I will tell you, 60 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: for instance, and anyone that listens to our podcast between 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: us knows this that we were sort of arguing for 62 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: two weeks and it started I don't even remember what 63 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: the original argument was about, but the argument was not 64 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: good and it kept going and it just like we 65 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: were irritating each other and he pissed me off, and 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: then we were like, we don't silent treatment, right, but 67 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: it was polite. 68 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Okay, for like two weeks. 69 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: That's a long time. It was a long time. And 70 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: we had to go to a wedding and we were 71 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: away for the weekend and it was really and you 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: know what sucks. He is my best friend. And so 73 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: when I am pissed at him and I want to 74 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: talk to someone about whatever it is, I'm annoyed that 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: then I can't call him right how amazing though it's feeling. 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: But I will tell you, so we we did make 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: up and we got on the other side of it. 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: And that was a very intense, drawn out, daytime, sober conversation. 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: I like to say that, because never have important conversations 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: when you're tired, when there's alcohol on board, you know, 81 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: anything like that. Right. So, but here's the thing it was, 82 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: it's so good now that I said to him the 83 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: other day, I go, look, we had this bad weekend 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: and then we have to go to this wedding and 85 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: all these things go. I hated this, I hated that. 86 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: I hated these two weeks. But I will tell you 87 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm okay with it because of where it brought us 88 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: right now. Wow, And I totally mean that. 89 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Well I feel And again, I haven't been in a 90 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: committed relationship in quite some time, and I can't even 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: pinpoint like the last time I was in like a healthy, 92 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: productive relationship. But I do know that when you have 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: those arguments if you can learn something on the other side, 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: then that is the key to longevity in the relationship 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: when you be cause you have although you're in a 96 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: traditional marriage and family unit, you have a very untraditional life. 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: You have four children, which I cannot believe you told 98 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: me not to have any more kids. 99 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Why did you say that? 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: Why did you say that my kids are might listen, No, 101 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: I mean I'm joking sort of. It's just it's a lot. 102 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: Children are a lot of work, and raising them is challenging, 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: and you know, they're different. I mean I started with 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: twins and I had never even held a baby before, 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: so two was like ten, right, And then I had 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: a third, so I had three hundred three and that 107 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: was insane. And then a surprise one four years after her. 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: So I had four kids in seven years. It was 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: just it was a lot. And also, you know who 110 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: I was as a person while I'm raising these kids. 111 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: And Terry and I were talking about this last night, 112 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: but it was like, you know, my youngest Ace is 113 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: seven years younger than the twins. 114 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: So do you find that that's a ginormous gap or 115 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: do they have things in common? 116 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: You're noticing how they get older, They're close. 117 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: Yes, And I told them when they were younger, because 118 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: there are certain stages where it's like, oh, this is 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: so frustrating. They're bigger, they don't want to do the 120 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: little kid things anymore. The little kid wants to do 121 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: the big kid things. That there's definitely some difficulties with that, 122 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: but you get through it. But I told them this 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet, But I said, when the last of 124 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: you is twenty one, you're all the same age, Yeah, 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: because you're all adults totally, so it will be fine. 126 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: But I mean with four, not all of them get along. 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 3: I grew up with one sister. It was just the 128 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: two of us. We had to get along. Do you 129 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: get along? 130 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Now? 131 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: We do, but it's like, you know, we alway said, 132 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't it be nice to have a conversational third, just 133 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 3: someone like a mediator kind of or yeah, tiebreak or 134 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: whatever it was. Yeah, but you know that wasn't in 135 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: the cards for me. With four, they don't always get along, 136 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: but like as they get older they do, Right, this 137 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: is so great. So we have a group chat with 138 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: the six of us and everyone sends pictures and you know, 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 3: I just landed or let me show you the cat 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: or you know, whatever it is, and it's really cute. 141 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: I found out yesterday that my four kids have their 142 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: own private group chat without us. That's amazing. I love it. 143 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: I love that makes you. 144 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 3: So happy because that is the goal is for them 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: to have their own independent relationships outside of us totally. 146 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: And that actually is one of my biggest fears in 147 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: thinking that I want to expand further beyond just the 148 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: two is you don't know, there's so many people. I know, 149 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: I come from Utah, so big families are like a 150 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: diamond doesn't and there's always one, two, three of the 151 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: kids who are like, we don't speak to them, we 152 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: don't acknowledge that they exist. 153 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: And I'm like, that is my biggest fear. 154 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: I know we have people in our family, not siblings 155 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: but like cousins, right that not my generation, but like 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: the parents that they stop talking to each other completely. Yeah, well, 157 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: it happens all the time. I cannot imagine I would 158 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: tell you that. And you're such an involved mom. I'm 159 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: sure you're the same way, but like you have to. 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: You promote relationships between them. You create memories, right and 161 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: you know, holidays and birthdays and it doesn't have to 162 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: be you know, the over the top. That's not what 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: I mean. I just mean, whatever your traditions are, totally 164 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: do with your kids, and they carry that with them 165 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: and it gives them a shared experience that no one 166 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: else has right but them. And if you are communicative 167 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: with them and you're open with them, they will always 168 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: come back to you and always come back to each other. 169 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: I agree with that, unless one's like a crazy asshole. 170 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes rogue. You're like, where the fuck did 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: this and come from? That can happen right because we 172 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: have no control? 173 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: Yes, don't you have assholes in your family? 174 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't talk to I mean I just talked to 175 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: my immediate family. There you go like I've written off cousins, 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: aunts and uncles. 177 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Why all when you got famous. 178 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: No, they're the way that my dad was treated because 179 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: he decided to not be a Mormon anymore, and he 180 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: was looked at as the black sheep. And I just thought, 181 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm really funny about religion just due to where I 182 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: come from and what I've seen. I'm raising my kids 183 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: spiritual and introducing them to all sorts of religions and 184 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: n higher power so that one day they can grow 185 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: up and say this resonates with me. 186 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to take this on. 187 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: What I saw was my dad, who left the church 188 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: before I was even born. He was twenty two years old, 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: met my mom and that he was just like the 190 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: black sheep of the family. And I just thought how 191 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: wild it was that we could preach you know, this, 192 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: this arm that's off of Christianity with love and acceptance. Yeah, 193 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: because my dad is choosing a different faith than you guys. 194 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,239 Speaker 2: It was a lot of battle. 195 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Life acceptance exactly. 196 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: It's really the door out of the door. I just 197 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: found that it didn't really make sense. So I only 198 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: speak with my immediate family, my brother's, my mom. But 199 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you the untraditional aspect of your life. 200 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: You have four kids, some of which identify with the 201 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: queer community. When those conversations happened, was there anything that 202 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: you experienced when you were growing up with your parents 203 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: where you said, I'm not going to do that. 204 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: This is how I'm going to rock it with my kid. 205 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: You probably maybe had this experience because I don't know. 206 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: I know your dad had left the church, but I 207 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: don't know how his upbringing affected his parenting style. But 208 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: I grew up with very nineteen fifties parents, okay, and 209 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: they talked about nothing. Everything was swept on the under 210 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: the rug. My sister and I didn't know what a 211 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: period was. I thought I was dying, I mean truly 212 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: like crazy. And then even when I got it, you 213 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't let me wear tampons. I don't know why those 214 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: were like taboo. I just steal them from my aunt's house. 215 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: Swear to you, so crazy, and I thought it's so crazy. 216 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: I am the polar opposite. I have Diary of the Mouth. 217 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: I will tell you everything. I don't have any deep 218 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: seated secrets, like I like to share information. I talk 219 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: for a living, and that was never going to be 220 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: in the cards for me. And I'm married to a 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: doctor right who there is nothing taboo and everything is biology, 222 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: right And so we never sat down and said we're 223 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: going to raise orchids this. Yes, we never did that. 224 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: We probably should have, but we didn't. And I just 225 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: think that we're both of the minds that we've created 226 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: this really open family. I mean, like even to the 227 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 3: point where, okay, we're not like naked people. I don't 228 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: to say, like we're walking around the house all naked 229 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: in front of the kids all the time. But there 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: was never like a weird don't come in right, you 231 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying totally that kind of attitude. It 232 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: was always just everything has always been okay, and anything 233 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: the children want to talk about it has always been okay. 234 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: So there was never sort of a defining moment like 235 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: we need to have a talk. It just it was. 236 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: It was Yeah. And even though listen, they share a 237 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: lot with fans, sometimes too much, too much, too much. Yeah, 238 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: I don't really want to know everything. 239 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: You know what, though, now that I'm a parent, I 240 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: just think because my dad leaving the church, you would think, 241 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: and my mom coming from a very Christian household and 242 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: her being raised to sweep everything under the rug, what 243 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: will the neighbors think? 244 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: Yes, we don't want to know, so let's just keep 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: the pretty picture. 246 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I think when I entered the mix started having a voice, 247 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: my mom was very thrown off by it. I think 248 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: I broke the cycle. I think my brother broke the 249 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: cycle of like, it's okay to talk about struggles, and 250 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: it's okay for me to be on a reality show 251 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: where I talk about some real shit, because what's the 252 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: worst thing that's going to happen. Someone could relate to you. 253 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Someone might say you're fucked up. 254 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: Oh big fucking deal. Wait, write I need to know 255 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: this because when I joined Housewives, my family was so 256 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: mean to me, really horrible. 257 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Wow, yours wasn't. They did not watch the show, which 258 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: I was thrilled about. But like my mom and dad said, 259 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to watch the show because I know 260 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: exactly who you are because you're like this at home. 261 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: So you told you took your top off under a waterfall, excellent, 262 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: You've done that with your friends many times. 263 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: You were talking about blowjobs. 264 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: Well, we've heard a lot about the blowjob and we 265 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: don't really want to so I just everything like you. 266 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: It's not like we were all walking around naked, but 267 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: it was very much not. 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: Like ah, close the door, like right, It. 269 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Was very much inside of the household, which later on 270 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: I think I broke the cycle with my mom and 271 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: her knowing like it's okay for people to know when 272 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: we're struggling. 273 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: My family's still not okay with it. That struggles. It's 274 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: so weird, like God forbid someone needed to go to 275 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: therapy or it was all very like yeah, no, you'll 276 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: be fine. 277 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: So do you worry, Like, so your dad passed away, 278 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: I think a year before. 279 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: My dad passed two years ago. Okay, so like twenty seventeen. 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: That's a not a math, Lola. 281 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm the worst at math. By the way, do you. 282 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Ever feel guilty discussing your upbringing? 283 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: So this season on the show, I actually talk about 284 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: my dad a little bit. Yeah, and you'll see I 285 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: can't give it away. But in the upcoming episodes, yeah, 286 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: I have sort of a cathartic moment about my dad. 287 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: So I never talked about it because first of all, 288 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: I was ingrained to never talk about the family. God 289 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: forbids someone would think anything was untoward or what the 290 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: truth was or what I mean. Okay, who cares? But fine, 291 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: I'm like you the same way. But it's not my 292 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: story to tell. And I never wanted to be ungrateful 293 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: to my dad, you know, because he may not have 294 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: been like this warm fight. He wasn't terry right, but 295 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: he did the best he could and he was from 296 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: a different generation also, he was a product of his 297 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: environment also, so I never wanted to do that. But 298 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: like after he passed away, and I never even thought 299 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: to consciously do it. But this season on the show 300 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: it came up. 301 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: We've seen the episode where you say that Tamra's outbursts 302 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: remind you a lot of your dad. Yeah, was were 303 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: you nervous to talk about that? 304 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: Like ye admitting like my dad would have outbursts. 305 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: I wasn't nervous to talk about it for myself. I 306 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: was nervous to talk about it for my mom. And 307 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: so when I talk about him, and you'll see what happens. 308 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: But I just don't ever want to do something to 309 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: hurt her, right, and so I could be a lot 310 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: more vocal about it, but I wouldn't do that. Yeah, 311 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: Like I can talk to you about this right now 312 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: because she won't listen to your show. 313 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: Well that's rude. 314 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry she doesn't listen to mine. Just telling you 315 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: she won't even see a Google alert or an article 316 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: or anything. But like if it's I would hate to 317 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: her for to see a headline that had my name 318 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: in it that she would see or something. I just 319 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: feel bad. 320 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: I completely understood. 321 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: Someday when she is not around, I can talk about 322 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: a lot of things, but I still I think would 323 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: be I don't know, more respectful because I know it 324 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: would bother her so much because she is that way. 325 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the. 326 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: Same with your kids. You're going to see because your 327 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: kids are so young and they're on TV. But when 328 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: they start to get older and you realize you can't 329 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: tell their stories for them. It's cute when they're little, 330 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: it's not a big deal, but once they start being 331 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: vocal about things, you have to take a step back 332 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: and go, Okay, well, how do I manage this? 333 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Heather, You've just put another thing in 334 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: my mind to keep me up at night. 335 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh No, I do relate because when I was writing 336 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: my book years ago, I was like, this is the 337 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: time to really talk about the things that I saw 338 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: in my household and the things that I wish my 339 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: parents would have navigated differently in front of us, which 340 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: was in two thousand and eight, the recession that hit 341 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: my dad was in real estate development, and it hit 342 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: him hard, and because of his financial choices, where we 343 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: went from living We did not live how you guys live, 344 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: but we lived a beautiful life. We did not go without. 345 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: And it went from we're not going without too, we 346 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: could lose the house, we may not be able to eat, 347 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: and they're God for my mother, who was a working 348 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: woman from the time she could work, and she was 349 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: the plan B. And because I saw arguments that very 350 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: much had to do with money and frustration on my 351 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: mom's behalf, I go into situations very differently. I have 352 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: a very strange relationship with money. I am constantly thinking 353 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: about a plan B my house that I'm. 354 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: A strange relationship. That's a smart relationship. 355 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Okay, So I started saying that I have a smart 356 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: relationship with money as well. I switched my mindset because 357 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is actually a good thing because we 358 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. 359 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I loved the idea of. 360 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: When I bought my house Palm Springs, I was like, 361 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: if we hit on hard times, I can rent this bad. 362 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: Bitch out, that's right, the adu in my backyard. 363 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm buying this because if we hit 364 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: on hard times, we can rent this bitch out, or 365 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: we move back there and rent the big house out. 366 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: So I'm just constantly thinking about the rainy day because 367 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: of my dad. 368 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: But I had a tremendous amount of guilt putting that 369 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: in my book because I know it was a pride thing. 370 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: For him, right, and he's supposed to keep the family together. 371 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: And I could tell he wanted to shout on the 372 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: top of the roof that like he was struggling. But 373 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: my mom was of the nature of what will the 374 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: neighbors think. 375 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: Isn't this terrible? There was not to tell the details 376 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: of it, but my parents had a financial situation that 377 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: did not need to happen, but they were of the 378 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: what would the neighbors think. Can't discuss finances with people ever, 379 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: And that was to their detriment and it took a 380 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: big financial hit. And Tyry and I are so the polarpposite. 381 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: But because of my upbringing, Terry when we first got 382 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: together and he would talk about money and first I 383 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: thought it was like showy, braggy, right, and then you know, 384 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: it's so uncouth to talk about money. How could you 385 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: do that? And then he would talk to his buddies 386 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: and I was like, that's crazy. You guys all talk 387 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: about your money and he goes yes, And then I realized, oh, 388 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 3: dumb ass, Heather, Like, that's how you they this is 389 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: how they communicate, They learn from each other. What are 390 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: you doing with this? So you're converting it to a 391 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: roth Ira, you're doing this thing. Hey, my tax guy 392 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: told me that, oh great, and that is the best 393 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: thing ever. And the gatekeeping that people do with their wealth, 394 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: with their skin and care, with their parenting, with all 395 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: the things right crazy to me. So we don't gatekeep it. 396 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: It's good, thank God. 397 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: By the way, the skincare thing is, I saw Megan 398 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Fox on some interview and she was gatekeeping one of 399 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: her something she did with her face, and I'm like, 400 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: how could you do that to everybody? 401 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's my thing, here's my thing about facial stuff. 402 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: I just feel like, if you want to get work done, 403 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: go I have. I mean, it's awesome, it pays the mortgage, 404 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: so get it all, get it all done. But I 405 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: don't think that people have to disclose everything. I don't 406 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: think it's fair to people. I think if you want 407 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: to go get your breast done, get your facelift, like, 408 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: whatever it is you want to do, go do it. 409 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: And if you want to tell people, fantastic, And if 410 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: you don't, that is your prerogative. But the only caveat 411 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: is do not go get that stuff done and then 412 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: tell me you drink water and get nine hours okay, 413 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: because that kisses me off. 414 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that pisses me off to that ain't true. 415 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: But also if you go and you have, you know, 416 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: a niptuck or an injection here there, and you look amazing, 417 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: how are you. 418 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: Not gonna tell me? I want to go get that done? 419 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. I haven't had it done. 420 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I get needles and stuff, but don't. 421 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: We all have. They're all tak It's so funny. 422 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: Fifty six. 423 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: I we're going to talk about peptides on because I 424 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts. But I have the hardest 425 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: time injecting my peptides. 426 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 3: I saw you with the peptides on social media. 427 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: But the moment it's time for botox, I'm like anywhere 428 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: you want to put needles to the face, I don't care. 429 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 3: Well, did you did you talk about this? Did you 430 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 3: do IVF? 431 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: I did not do IVF. So I conceived so sad, 432 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: just the the scientific sexual way where it's like text 433 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: the doctor io yep I U, I stirrups, yeah, needle 434 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: instead of a dicky. You know, let me know in 435 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: two weeks if you're pregnant. And I was going to 436 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: do it a third time until you told me I 437 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: met with a psychic though, and he told me that 438 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to have another baby, but with a man, 439 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: and I just refuse. 440 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: No, Heather, Heather, Just so you know, my first three 441 00:21:54,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: were IVF and the last one apparently was the penis, 442 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: and apparently it was with Terry's and I'm telling you 443 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: it was a dry spell. I do not know. I 444 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: how that happened, I don't know. 445 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: So you did IVF with the first three. 446 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: Had twins IVF. Those are the embryos. I got. That's 447 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: what we got, okay. And then I wanted the experience 448 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: of having just one, so he did IVF again. I 449 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: ended up with three embryos, put one in okay, got 450 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 3: cat okay. And then she had some issues talk about gatekeeping, parenting. 451 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: She had some issues. At fifteen months, she wasn't crawling, walking, talking, nothing, 452 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: And I took her to this neurologist and they said 453 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: she wouldn't have four words by the age of four. 454 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 3: And she was a practic. It was so heart wrenching, 455 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: and I she went she was in speech therapy, and 456 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 3: she was in physical therapy and all the things. She's 457 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: at Yale. 458 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: By the way, that is incredible. 459 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: He was wrong he was very he was very wrong. 460 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: But she did need speech therapy, she needed a push 461 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: to get going. And she's a I mean a brilliant, 462 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: well obvious and talented and sweet. She's like we call 463 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: her the good one. Yeah, there's always the one good one. 464 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: She's really good. But because I was so scared, we 465 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 3: had two frozen embryos and I thought done not having 466 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: any more kids. We're very lucky, we have three healthy kids. 467 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: And we started later anyway. I'm like, we're good, check 468 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: the box, no more kids. But I was infertile, so 469 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: that's why we did IVF right, So I was like, 470 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: I wasn't really worried about it. And then I got pregnant. Wow, yeah, 471 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: I was forty one. 472 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: The higher power had a different plan for you. 473 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: Man. Try being forty one year old, pregnant, chasing three 474 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: little ones. I can't even imagine. Oh, it's exhausted. 475 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted twenty four to seven, And I'm like, how 476 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: does one get unexhausted? 477 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: You don't, but it's a different kind of exhausted. You 478 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: go from that your kids are so little, it's physically 479 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: exhausting right up, and then they're sick and you chase them, 480 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: and then you play a certain way and then you're 481 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: in the pool all the time, or you're on the 482 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: slide and you're instantly going. And then you add. 483 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: The reality television aspect. Because I've been out of the 484 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: game for two years, I've been like strictly mom. And 485 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: I have to say I loved it because, as you know, 486 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: it's such a fleeting time. 487 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: It's a good break too. 488 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: It's a great break. 489 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: And I got to be at you did take a 490 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: break and you and I got to be at every 491 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: drop off and pickup and dance recital and it was 492 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: like mom time with the kids playing. I got to 493 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: experience that and it was wonderful. And now I'm juggling 494 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: trying to be a present mom then the mom guilt 495 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: on top of now filming a show again. 496 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: And did you have that shock when you went. 497 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: Back to OC where it was like, oh, we're like, 498 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: no one skipped a beat and we're thrown into the 499 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: lions den. 500 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: The show had changed from it. I mean, well, first 501 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: of all, I was gone for four seasons, which equated 502 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: to five years because of the pandemic, and that had happened, 503 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: so that kind of changed everything to you. Right, So 504 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: the world was a bit different. And when I left 505 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: the show. So I started the show when my youngest 506 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: child was nine months old and he's starting fifteen in December. 507 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: Is that crazy? So my kids were a little crazy. 508 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: They were nine months old to seven and a half. 509 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: So when I started and when I left five years later, 510 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: do the math on that, they were still little. But 511 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: when I came back, they were now older, right, And 512 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: so it was like better and worse in a way 513 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: because everyone was in real school, which is a lot 514 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: easier because you can film a lot while they're at school, 515 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: which is nice. Yeah, that is nice. Yeah, it was 516 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: very strange to come back. But I was still working 517 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: in between. I wasn't just home YouTube channel. I've had 518 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: a podcast for a decade, like Hustle. I was like 519 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: I was always and little guest stars here and there, 520 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: stuff like that, scripted and know, writing books with Terry 521 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: and doing stuff like that. 522 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: I need a nap just thinking about all that stuff. 523 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know we've done TV shows together and 524 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: what you know, I'm always doing something. 525 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: I know you are and it's amazing to watch. By 526 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: the way, I don't. 527 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: Feel guilty because here's the thing, you know this is 528 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 3: your path. And part of what's incredible about you is 529 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: how you are this single parent with these incredible kids 530 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: and you have a career and a podcast and you're 531 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 3: a book and the thing, and you hustle, you do 532 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: all these things and making it work. You are a 533 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: balancing Yet, yes, there is no perfect balance. 534 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so either there's not, there's And there 535 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: was a woman who said to me, and I passed 536 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: this along to all my other mom friends who are 537 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: feeling mom guilt. But I was saying to her that 538 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: I was struggling with the mom guilt and you know, 539 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been dropping the ball. And she 540 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: was like, they are going to be day is where 541 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: your kids are simply loved and fed, and that's a 542 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: win and fucking take it. 543 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and I would like it. Okay, you know what 544 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: all is good? 545 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: Listen. The other day, Terry and I were going because 546 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: with four two, even with two, one one's up, one's down, 547 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: one's sick, one's healthy, one's happy. One said like, there 548 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: are very rare moments where everyone's okay. And when I 549 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 3: tell you, I soak. I don't care if it's an hour, 550 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: everyone's good. 551 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: That hour. 552 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: That's a win. I don't know from Terry. 553 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh nudies. 554 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: No, I never sent a nude in my life. By 555 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: the way, if you saw Terry's camera, but it's all nudes. 556 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: This does nothing for me. It's funny. I did say 557 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: to him. I remember we first got together. I was like, 558 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay, this is all real, you know, 559 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: like I think I still am the only yes, good 560 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: for you. I think I'm the only plastic surgeon's wife 561 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: with real boobs. Oh yeah, it's possible. But anyway, I'm 562 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: just saying like, yeah, I don't know that nudes would 563 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: do it for him. He likes silly stuff. 564 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so like what is silly? 565 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: What would you send Terry if you guys hadn't seen 566 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: each other he was like out of town for a 567 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: weekend or whatever. 568 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: Well, I would probably make noise. We make noises to 569 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: each other, and they're like mating sounds. I don't know, 570 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 3: like he could like if if we're if we are, 571 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: if we're like at a restaurant, right and we both 572 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: go to the restroom and he's waiting for you outside 573 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: of goh nuh, and I'll go, oh no, it's like 574 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: we call each other that's so fucking cute. We're so 575 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: ridiculous and we've been together so long that we have 576 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: so many private jokes together. Our kids, I mean they 577 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: laugh and they roll their eyes at us, but we 578 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: have like he could say one word to me in 579 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: a crack up like we're just stupid stuff. I mean. 580 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: But that's not to say we don't have a great 581 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: sex life. We have a great sex life. 582 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask you, as a woman who's been married 583 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: for twenty nine years, what is a great sex life? Like? 584 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: How many times a week? 585 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: Like? 586 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: What can? It? Depends? It depends, Yeah, okay, depends this 587 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: week not to be TMI a lot. Good for you 588 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: because we were fighting so we just made up. So 589 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: we're like and we're in a good spot right now, 590 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: and then we're going to be in the Bahamas next week. 591 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: That's gonna be like hotel sex for us. Game on. 592 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Do you still put it in the mouth sometimes? 593 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: Good for you? Yeah, But he's a reverse cowgirl kind 594 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: of guy, yes, yeah, of course he is. Yeah, but 595 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: like we're still like interested and interesting and you know, 596 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: bring things in the bedroom and have like toys. 597 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell you my favorite toy is the 598 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: vibrator that goes in the underwear and then the. 599 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: Guy gets to hold the little clicker. So wherever you 600 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: are in the party and you're like. 601 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: I've seen that. That is not us. That do Harry? 602 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: I think it's hot. 603 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: Terry's like not like he's very different. Once the bedroom 604 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: door is closed, Well it sounds like it he wants 605 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, we have a good time. 606 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: Ask towards the face. Does he do BBLS. 607 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: No, he's against them. He thinks they should be completely outlawed. 608 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: It's the most dangerous procedure. Okay, people die from it. Yeah, 609 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: I want to. 610 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: I want to get into like the plastic surgery and 611 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: stuff on the bonus, But I just wanted to know 612 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: if he did BBLS. Is there has there ever been 613 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: a point in time where you and arrygo do we 614 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: do we do housewives anymore? 615 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: Do we do the TV thing anymore? 616 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: I mean, definitely not do we do the TV thing anymore? 617 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean we always have something in development, like literally 618 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: right now, Okay, there's a game show. There's a fun show. 619 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Don't you think like the competition shows, it's a different level, 620 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Like the stakes are higher in a different way. 621 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, filmy. 622 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: Reality TV is tough. 623 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: It's tough. 624 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: They come in, you know, what have you been up to? 625 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I know what we're doing. 626 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about our storyline and it's like, well, my 627 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: life's pretty peaceful right now, which I know you guys don't. 628 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: Want to DIY. Sorry, everything's okay. Maybe something tragical happened 629 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: in the next forty minutes. Yeah, no, it is. It's 630 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: a tough show to do. I mean, I'm not gonna 631 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: be at it forever obviously, but you know, I'm so 632 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: grateful for the platform. I really mean this that what 633 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: is important to me after having been such a piece 634 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: of pop culture, is that I wanted to live on appropriately. 635 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: Like I'm not of the mind like when I leave, 636 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: I mean to burn the house down, you know. I'm 637 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: not like that. I'm like, hey, let's keep bringing on 638 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: interesting people and so it's gonna have a life. I 639 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: love that. Can I tell you. 640 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: I was in full panic in the bath last night 641 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, the Housewives, You're going to start 642 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: getting older and not want to do it? 643 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: What would happen? What will happen? What am I going 644 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: to watch? 645 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: Because you all of us are going to get older 646 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: and I'm. 647 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: Already old, but there could you like, we love our house. 648 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: I have so much and I hate change, Like when 649 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: a new face appears, I'm like, I don't know about this. 650 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. But that's why it's 651 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: got people have to come in slowly. But we've had 652 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: really great hires that have blended in really seamlessly. Yeah, 653 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: and that have longevity and I love that. Okay, So 654 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing you know what happened because 655 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: next season for us is season twenty. It's amazing, which 656 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: is the first house I've season to go to. Twenty 657 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: obviously were the first sorts of you know, it's iconic, 658 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: it's cool, and I think they have a lot of 659 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: fun stuff planned. So I'm excited for that. 660 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So we can expect because a lot of people 661 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: are wanting to see you on Beverly Hills and it 662 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: makes sense because you live here. 663 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: But you know what, here's the thing about that, because yeah, 664 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: here's the thing about that. You know where I live 665 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: to Newport Beach is the same distance from Newport Beach 666 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: to Cota Dekaza, Right, So I mean. 667 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: People, I really don't understand how the traffic works around here, right. 668 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: So it's this, It's it's really if I lived in 669 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: Laguna Miguel or Dana Point, it would take me the 670 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: same amount to get to to the coort to go 671 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: to someone's, but it would still be in Orange County 672 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: just because I'm over the county line. Whatever. They're my friends. 673 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: I've been involved with the show for almost fifteen years, 674 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: and I'm very happy where I am. 675 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: You gotta be a part of twenty Yeah, But. 676 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: The reason why I said that, honestly, I mean I 677 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: joked it was the commute, which partially is. But also, 678 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: you know, we film in Orange Counties, so sometimes I 679 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: worry that there's a faction of my life that they 680 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: don't get to see, right, So that's a little bit 681 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: of a bummer. But I look, I'm very happy where 682 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: I am, very grateful for all that. But as far 683 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: as doing reality TV, there's other things that I'm like 684 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: developing and working on the reality space. I do, but 685 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 3: not necessarily my story, right, pass it on and yeah, 686 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: and also I like producing, so you know, I'm also 687 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: developing things that I don't have to be in. 688 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: That's nice, which I love. Yeah, that's fun. 689 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: Takes the pressure off totally, and now you get to 690 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: be the guy that's like, you're really not bringing it. 691 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: You need to share more. 692 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: You the tears. 693 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: We'd really like to see more tears from you. 694 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: Yes, please? Did you hit the left eye? 695 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: Did you like having Gretchen a part of the season? 696 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: It did? I mean, I'm not really sure from the 697 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 3: top that I realized how much it was going to 698 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: affect camera. Yeah. I stupidly thought that they would hit 699 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 3: the restart button, right because when I joined the show, 700 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: and I said this on the after show, but when 701 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: I joined Housewives, they became friends. 702 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: Right, So I know, was that the friendship bracelets giving? 703 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Season seven, like they were friends right, travel together, 704 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: we had a lot of fun together. And then on 705 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: Gretchen's last reunion, things didn't go that great, and so 706 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, we had some issues, all of us, but 707 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was insurmountable, right. And then I 708 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 3: don't know why their relationship went south over the last decade, 709 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 3: but it did. Don't really know why that happened. 710 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: So the podcast, man, Yeah, the podcast and everyone in 711 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: control and all the things, all of it. 712 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: So I thought, you know what, maybe they'll she'll come 713 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: back on, they'll have a conversation and we'll move on, 714 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: because no one wants to argue about stuff from fifteen 715 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: years ago. 716 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: No, And it was a lot. It was a lot 717 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: on a pent up anger for fifteen years, happy for 718 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: her to come. 719 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: And I thought, you know, it's interesting to see where 720 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: she is all these years later, and she still was 721 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: slated and she is like a five year old and 722 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: it's just fun. Yeah. I do you think she'll be back? 723 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. Will they ask me back? Yes, I 724 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: mean I think. 725 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: So, because you're a fucking icon. Well, thank you, we 726 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: love Heather Page Kent, thank you. 727 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, the reunion was 728 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: a lot. 729 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: You guys just filmed that. Have you recovered? Are you 730 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: exhausted mentally? 731 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: Still? I'm still a little tired. But I thought it 732 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 3: was really good. The audience is going to really like it, Okay, 733 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 3: a lot. It'll definitely be three parts. Well, good for 734 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: you guys. 735 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: Can you tell us where were you placed in the 736 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: middle of the couch. 737 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: They put the seating up already? 738 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh did they? Where were you seated? 739 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 3: I was seated? It went Andy, Tamar, Gina, Me, Katie. 740 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh so Katie did come. 741 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, and then it went Jen, Emily, Shannon Gretchen. Okay. 742 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: I thought the seating was really good and I think 743 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: people will understand it when they see the reunion. And 744 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was a really good reunion. Well. 745 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: As a viewer, I'm excited. 746 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: It's hard for me because I know how the sausage 747 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: is made, but I'm also enjoying it as just a viewer. Yeah, 748 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: I thought you guys crushed this season. I found it 749 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: to be amazing. Are you and Tamra are you guys good? 750 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: We're good. 751 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: You guys have a really sweet friendship. 752 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: We have been friends a very long time. You know 753 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: what the hard part is. I can't stand when people 754 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: are like, what if she have on you? Why are 755 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: you always sticking up? Or it's like, dude, when you 756 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 3: are in a room and everyone is against one person, 757 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: isn't it nice that you're the friend that tried Hey, 758 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: maybe let's look at the other side. Maybe. Isn't that 759 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: what you do for a friend? Yeah? 760 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: And you're just like amazing at being able to hold 761 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: her accountable and point out the things that she did 762 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: wrong while also maintaining that you're on her team. 763 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: I tried you because my take home to a friend 764 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 3: is we are friends, and so that's the basis of 765 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: what we're doing here, right, And we can still have 766 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: an argument, and we can still you know, disagree and 767 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: all those things, but you got to remember we're friends. Yeah, 768 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: So don't cross the line, don't get shitty. That's how 769 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 3: we have to work with each other. 770 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: You have conquered the art of the way you speak. 771 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: I'd give a lot of money. Where'd you go to school? 772 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 3: I went to Syracuse. I was a musical theater major. 773 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 3: We did I heard you? I w I heard you 774 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: quoted me at a reunion. Yes, I did. 775 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 2: I did, And I wanted them to air it so badly. 776 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 3: What'd you say? 777 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: I said to Tom Sandoval, I said, in the words 778 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: of Heather Dubro, when everyone around you says you're dead, 779 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: it's time to lie down. God bless Because he just 780 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: kept going. I was like, fuck it, we're all you're dead. 781 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: We all agree. 782 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 3: Someone texted me and goes, oh my god, Lalla's quoting 783 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 3: you on set. 784 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: Well, because everything that comes out of your mouth is 785 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: just like dripping in just gold. 786 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: And I just love everything you say. 787 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: And you stay level headed, but you're so fucking interesting, 788 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: whereas like I think I'm only interesting if I'm ripping 789 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: someone's head off. That is. 790 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 3: Ask. There's a reason your podcast does so well. Everyone 791 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: wants to hang out with you and hear you speak. 792 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 3: But I have to ask you about the diamond. Oh, 793 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 3: the diamond. 794 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Yes, this was my engagement ring and I popped out 795 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: the middle stone. I kept the setting in case Ocean 796 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: wants it one day, and I put on my neck 797 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: because it was just. 798 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: Sitting there so smart. 799 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just how do you feel about lab diamonds. 800 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: I am of the mindset of whatever you want, that 801 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: is what you should go and get. 802 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: If you don't care about the lab diamonds. 803 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to get in trouble because if I 804 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: say I love diamonds, that mean I love blood diamonds. 805 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good point. 806 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope, and that's why I prefer. 807 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I have this conversation with every 808 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: someone people that I know that love jewelry. I ask 809 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: because I'm curious what people think, and I've spent so 810 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: much money on diamonds. 811 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: We can't tell. 812 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it irritates me that you could get it 813 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 3: so much less and you can you can't tell. And 814 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 3: apparently the only machine you buy that can tell is 815 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars, so no one has the machine. I know, 816 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: but I don't know. Am I too much of a 817 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: snob to do it? I know you I have a girlfriend. 818 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 3: We can't tell you it is. But she's famous and wealthy. 819 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: And you bought some lab diamonds and I was like, no, did. 820 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: You did you see that? 821 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 3: Yes? I did? Did you see them? I did? I 822 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: don't know, I mean, could I tell? But then I 823 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: think about this. Maybe it's the way they were set 824 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 3: because she didn't spend that much money on these. She 825 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: just bottom she was at a thing. So then I 826 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: was like, all right, well a lab diamond, all right? 827 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: So I heard someone say it's like flowers. Whether the 828 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: rose is grown in the wild or it's grown in 829 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: a hothouse, it's still a rose. That's true. Okay, So 830 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: if you're growing a diamond, it's still you have to 831 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: look at the I mean, they can't grow it perfect. 832 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 3: It grows however, it grows, right, So there's still different qualities. 833 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 3: But then it comes to the diamond cutter, right, because 834 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 3: there's an art arm to cutting a diamond for the 835 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: most brilliant and the most this and the most that, 836 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: and the way you set it and the design of 837 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: the setting and all the things. So I mean, I 838 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: guess you could get a LAB diamond. 839 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: I don't think you're sold on the lab diamonds, and 840 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think you should. 841 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: I got this, like right under the wire, because if 842 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: Terry had known that lab diamonds were a thing, he 843 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: never would have. 844 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 2: It is so gorgeous. 845 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: I I cannot see that. 846 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, I put my initials diamonds on the side, 847 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: and then underneath are Terry's diamonds. And he says it's 848 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 3: because he's holding the weight of the diamond like that, 849 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 3: and I go, no, it's because I like to be 850 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: on top. Oh my god, I fucking love you. Can 851 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: I ask you about your nails? Yes, that's what about 852 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 3: the nails? Okay? So I used to have square nails, 853 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: and then a couple of years ago my kids were like, 854 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: you look old, you can't have square nails whatever, So 855 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: I changed to this. So I've been wearing this very 856 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: similar to yours, and oval. I really like it. It elongates 857 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 3: the finger. I enjoy it. But lately I'm a pilates 858 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 3: girl now, and all of the plates girlies that are 859 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 3: all like you, young and fit and gorgeous, they all 860 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: have shorter, square nails. And I need to know, La, La, 861 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 3: what is the thing it's. 862 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: Not happening for? 863 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I like Heather, I have hands the size of 864 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neal. You joking, I cut these nails off. You're 865 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna think that you're getting a hand job from a man. 866 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: Happening I love, And the only reason is be a 867 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: thing to make your nails suter you would think, you 868 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: would think. 869 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: Now, look at the size of my hands. 870 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: You do have tons the veiggest very long fingers, but 871 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: that's very elegant though. 872 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well my mom like their piano fingers. 873 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: And the piano. The piano. 874 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: No, but I have a gorgeous piano. 875 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: So you and Terry have a new podcast because now 876 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: we're both a part of Bravo. We're both a part 877 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: of the iHeart Family, the Kent Sisters, the Kent I'm 878 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: loving all of this. It's called between us. You had 879 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: a podcast solo though first, right, for like a decade, 880 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: for a decade, yes, So what is it like? Now 881 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: having your husband as your co host. 882 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 3: You know it's We have written three books together, okay, 883 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: we have done TV shows together, and I mean so 884 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 3: many things that you know. Some couple's golf, some have hobbies. 885 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 3: We like to work, we like to make content. We've 886 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: had a skincare and supple bedline for eleven twelve years. 887 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: Feel free to send me some Oh do you want 888 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: to forgive me a link? 889 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: No? No, I'll buye. 890 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm not stingy Noppin either. I am a skinny. 891 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 3: Our skincare is great, it's all I use. It's really great. 892 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 3: I have really sensitive skin. So anyway, but we have 893 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 3: done all these things together, and so we started doing 894 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 3: these tiktoks, which, according to my children, are very cringing, 895 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,959 Speaker 3: but we were getting millions and millions of hits on them. 896 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: So after being so long with my podcast, I was 897 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: really just ready for something a little bit different, okay. 898 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: And after the TikTok thing, I said to Terry, I go, 899 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: this is so crazy. Why don't why don't we just 900 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: do a podcast together? And he was like, oh, I 901 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 3: love this idea. Let's so so we've been doing it. 902 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: It's been so good for us. But I will tell 903 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 3: you I will eventually probably do another one that's a 904 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 3: little more girl coded love it and probably be with 905 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 3: one or two I'm talking about it right now, but 906 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 3: probably with one or two other women, because I miss 907 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 3: the girl part of the conversation right and there is 908 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,959 Speaker 3: such a big part, Like everyone loves being tear together 909 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 3: and they love the relationship stuff and the money talk 910 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 3: and the real love about money stuff, but all that stuff, 911 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: and I think it's such great conversation and it's stuff 912 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 3: that people haven't been privy to before with us, so 913 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 3: that's really fun. But I know also people are missing 914 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 3: that side of catching up about the kids and you know, 915 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 3: that kind of day to day stuff. 916 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the stuff that you talk about with your girlfriends 917 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: that like bonds women. I love that. 918 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: Where can we listen to your podcasts? Yours and Terry's. 919 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 3: It's called between us and it's anywhere you get your podcasts. 920 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: Let's do it on iHeart or anywhere you get them. 921 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 3: I love it. What day is it air? 922 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 2: Did you say Wednesday? 923 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 3: I love it. 924 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on untraditionally La La. 925 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you guys for listening. 926 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to catch you on Monday for the bonus, 927 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: and again next week. 928 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: Bye.