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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Diddy w Sean Combs. It's

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Speaker 1: actually whining that the FEDS are leaking damning information this

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Speaker 1: as he is the one demanding that the names of

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Speaker 1: the alleged sex victims be outed. I'm Nancy Grace, this

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Speaker 1: is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he.

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Speaker 1: Called freak off freak offs, freak offs, freak offs, freakoffs.

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Speaker 1: Sean Puffy Combes aka Diddy aka p Diddy, I'll see

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Speaker 1: you in court.

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Speaker 3: In court, Mark Agnefilo accuses the prosecution of leaking evidence

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Speaker 3: from grand jury proceedings. Agnipillo claims the FEDS alerted the

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Speaker 3: media to the raids on Combs Miami in La Holmes

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Speaker 3: and grossly overused force to paying Combs is dangerous. Agnifillo

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Speaker 3: also accuses prosecutors of leaking the video of Comb's hotel

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Speaker 3: attack on Cassie Ventura on a slow news day to

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Speaker 3: stain his reputation. Agnifello wants the video barred from evidence

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Speaker 3: and for the judge to impose a gag order. Supermanium

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Speaker 3: agrees to the gag order, asking Agnipillo to draft the

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Speaker 3: document Okay, let me understand this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got Diddy Sean Puffy Combs whining the

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Speaker 1: fans are leaking damning information. I think they're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Cassie Ventura beating video of him running down He's

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Speaker 1: not worry, somebody's gonna see his tie will fall off,

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Speaker 1: running down a hotel hallway, beating Cassie Ventura when she

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Speaker 1: she goes, hold on. Let's just drink this in for

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Speaker 1: a moment. We got this from our friends at CNN.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's accusing CNN of a big conspiracy against him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not over. Ooh, not over yet, not over yet.

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Speaker 1: He's grabbing her stuff. Yeah, one more kick. There you

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Speaker 1: go up and dragging her, literally dragging her back to

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Speaker 1: I looked up his towel. Oh bam. He had to

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Speaker 1: And I just can't do this enough. He's whining the

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Speaker 1: Feds are leaking information. That's not what happened. Who is

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Speaker 1: responsible for that video? Sean Holmes is responsible for that

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Speaker 1: video because he's the one parading up and down a

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Speaker 1: FEDS called the claim absurd straight out to Eric Fattus.

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Speaker 1: Eric Fattus is a veteran trial lawyer, TV legal analyst

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Speaker 1: founding partner Varner Fattest elite former felony prosecutor Eric. So

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Speaker 1: he's the one running down the hall making me look

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Speaker 1: up his towel. But yet he's blaming the Feds. Remember

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Speaker 1: when he I got to see the video where he

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Speaker 1: apologizes for being such a monster and how much he regrets.

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Speaker 1: It's can we get that cute up, please? But forget

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Speaker 1: changed man. It's the Fed's fault, and it's CNN's fault,

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Speaker 1: and it's our fault. It's not our fault, Fattest, and

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Speaker 1: it's not the Fed's fault, it's his fault. It's probably

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Speaker 1: the fault of the hotel employee. He tried to bribe

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Speaker 2: I hear Innesthey some alarming conduct in the video. Surely,

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Speaker 1: What, this is what I had to say about the

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Speaker 1: He is claiming that federal agents leaked that tape. What

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Speaker 1: So claiming federal agents are leaking information, that's a bad

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Speaker 1: idea to taunt the Feds at this juncture. Remember, a

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Speaker 1: I'll get into later, faddus, is that just before I believe,

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Speaker 1: the eve before Sean Comb's arrest, the Feds were liaisy

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Speaker 1: meeting with prosecutors that were handling the Tupac's Curb murder investigation. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? It means to me the charges

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Speaker 1: to so everybody get ready. Allegations that the baby oil

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Speaker 1: Diddy's home was actually laced with GHB gamma hydroxy butyrate,

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Speaker 1: basically pot. Is that true for Roofie. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but that has just hit the headlines. Where did that

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Speaker 1: entire panel on this, but first to doctor Bethany Marshall.

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Speaker 1: You know what I love doctor Bethany Marshall. Doctor Bethany Marshall,

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Speaker 1: renowned psycho alics joining us from Beverly Hills. She's the

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Speaker 1: author of deal Breakers. You can see her on Peacock

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Speaker 1: and a lot more. Doctor Bethany. I love try co

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Speaker 1: defendants together. I love to put him in the same pot.

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Speaker 1: Let him steep because you can always count on this. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he did it, she did it. I didn't do it. Look,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening here. Diddy is trying to blame the

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Speaker 1: FEDS for him prancing up and down a hotel hallway

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Speaker 1: and nothing but a table and beating Cassie Ventira. That's

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Speaker 1: what's happening.

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Speaker 5: Here, Nancy, That's exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: He Diddy has related to everybody around him on the

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Speaker 5: basis of power and control for so many years that

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Speaker 5: he thinks he can do it with the Feds. What

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Speaker 5: we're going to learn more in this case is about

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Speaker 5: his offending pattern. Just like he stalked his victims, just

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Speaker 5: like he attacked them, he raped them, he probably punished them,

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Speaker 5: made them feel like whatever happened to them was their fault.

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Speaker 5: He's in a way assaulting SAIDs too. It's always the

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Speaker 5: same offending pattern, Nancy. It just plays out in endless variations.

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Speaker 5: But in this case, he's not attacking or blaming a

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Speaker 5: He's blaming a government agency. So he's not going to

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Speaker 5: have the power that he's been used to his entire life.

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Speaker 1: You know, the blame game is going on and on.

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Speaker 1: Let me go to an expert you know well by now,

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Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw found a director of Lynn's Warriors, a nonprofit

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Speaker 1: that is dedicated to ending sex exploitation of girls and women.

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Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw. In this case, we are going to see

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Speaker 1: the victims being blamed. But before I get to that,

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Speaker 1: it's already started that holds smear the victims. But before

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Speaker 1: I get to that, what do you make Seawn comes

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Speaker 1: behind bars blaming the fans for Laky. You think the

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Speaker 1: fans like that. I don't think so, Nancy.

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Speaker 6: You can't ask me that this creepy, crazy, criminal, dirty

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Speaker 6: ditty as I like to call him. If we break

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Speaker 6: it down and just had the Cassie video alone, that

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Speaker 6: is enough with so many different charges. We don't care

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Speaker 6: about his whining and his crying and that lawyer flapping

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Speaker 6: his lips all over everywhere, telling everybody you know, the Feds,

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Speaker 6: the Feds, the Feds. We've got to focus on the

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Speaker 6: many victims coming forward a lot. Remember they don't know

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Speaker 6: each other, and they're coming together with similar stories. Remember

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Speaker 6: where there's smoke, there's fire. We cannot keep blaming. It's

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Speaker 6: always in the justice system. We have to outgrow this

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Speaker 6: like his food, he's crying, his family's showing up.

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Speaker 1: Well right now, he's also blaming the FEDS. And to you,

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Speaker 1: Tom Smith jumping off what Lynn Shaw just said. Thomas Smith,

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Speaker 1: former NYPD detective, co host of the gold Shields podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can find him at the Goldshields Show dot com.

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Speaker 1: You heard Fattest stating that it's basically, it's what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: It's also the fest fault because they did a quote

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Speaker 1: military raid his words, not mine, and we're very heavy

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Speaker 1: handed in their search of Sean comes home. Let's see

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Speaker 1: the video of the mansion search one of his mansions anyway,

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Lauren Colin. But Tom Smith,

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Speaker 1: when you enter a structure where you know or believe

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Speaker 1: how do you conduct a raid like that? Because now

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Speaker 4: You conducted as the worst case scenario. If you have

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Speaker 1: And that's the way it's done.

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Speaker 4: It's done on the lowest level in an apartment complex,

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Speaker 1: So again it's their fault. It's all their fault. And

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Speaker 1: Harvey Levin. Look at this, Look at this, and weapons

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Speaker 7: Yes, Nancy, you're correct, And this does not look good.

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Speaker 7: Defaced AR fifteens. I mean, that is wild. There's only

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Speaker 7: one reason you defeat your AR fifteens, if you ask me.

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Speaker 1: Guys again blaming everybody but himself? Did he whining behind

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Speaker 1: bars that the Feds are leaking the Fed satan? No

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Speaker 1: way did that happen? Joining me also special guest doctor

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Hendrix, former associate warden at MDC that is where

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Speaker 1: Diddy is being held right now in Brooklyn, former senior

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Speaker 1: warden with the USDJ Federal Bureau of Prisons. That goes

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Speaker 1: on and on and on this resume of his doctor Hendrix,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. You worked at MDC.

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Speaker 1: And now Diddy is swhining, Can I do this anymore?

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Speaker 1: Why do you have those conditions? What conditions? What is

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Speaker 8: Well, anyone, anyone who's ever been to inside a Chris

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Speaker 8: it's uncomfortable, but being confined in an institution is not

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Speaker 8: for your comfortability. And I understand his attorney and mentioned

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Speaker 8: the worst conditions that he's suffering thus far is the food.

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Speaker 9: He's having a hard time adjusting to the food at

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Speaker 8: Again, you know, the Karma food truck has not pulled

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Speaker 8: up to certain meals there, so no one's going to

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Speaker 8: you know, the complaining about the meals is going on

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Speaker 8: No, And then you know every day the institution duty officer,

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Speaker 8: One thousand bottle of baby oil goes a long way.

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Speaker 1: Not a thousand bottles of baby oil. I don't think

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Speaker 1: There's really not a nice way to say it. But

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Speaker 1: All right, let's bring it all home here. We can

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Speaker 1: All those doctors can't be wrong. Doctor Bethany, what do

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Speaker 5: It sounds like he was mixing GHB with baby oil

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Speaker 1: Dr Bethany. Dr Bethany, hold on, you got me drinking

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Speaker 1: So it's not that the baby oil was necessarily rubbed

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Speaker 5: Is exactly right. I mean we think of a date

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Speaker 5: they were drugs in such an unusual way. Yancy. Think

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Speaker 1: Now crime stores with Nancy Grace. GHB takes about fifteen

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Speaker 7: Yes, Nancy, I want to add to that, because it

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Speaker 11: I mean.

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Speaker 8: To my mom Carmardus, she's getting a drip with me.

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Speaker 1: She's had and she's calling me to ship slove. I

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Speaker 8: She could touch the floor with her palms flat.

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Speaker 1: Whatever. I'm not the church lady. I'm a trial lawyer

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Speaker 12: Take a listen, Sean Diddy Combs appears in front of

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Speaker 1: Now that really happens. Where a defendant charge with serious

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Speaker 1: Tell me what happened in court in addition to the

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. Well, I can think of a few,

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Speaker 1: What happened, Yes, it.

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Speaker 7: Was crazy outside of the court room, especially when his

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Speaker 7: And when I was outside, I saw the MDC bus

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Speaker 1: It looked a little.

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Speaker 7: Brown, and I'm just like, man, how far did he fall?

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Speaker 1: So what do you believe is going to happen regarding

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Speaker 1: a third try at bail? Lauren Conlin, Of course.

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Speaker 7: They're going to try, and I have some questions because

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Speaker 1: Nancy, how they do that get you in the bathroom?

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Speaker 7: How do they get you when you're doing these private

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Speaker 10: Happened, listen during the status hearing, Judge super money and

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Speaker 10: Mark Agnifilo declines, commenting that we're making a go of

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Speaker 10: MDC as staff have been very accommodating this, While attorneys

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Speaker 10: Alexandra Shapiro and Jason Driscoll file another bail argument in

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Speaker 10: appeals court, claiming Judge Andrew Carter made his ruling based

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Speaker 10: on speculation not hard evidence. The status hearing focuses instead

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Speaker 10: on scheduling and a gag order request from the defense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, straight out to Eric Fattus, our legal expert joining

436
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Speaker 1: us partner at Varner Fattus Elite Legal, Eric, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. So the defense is claiming that

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Speaker 1: bond was denied because the judge that denied bond originally

439
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Speaker 1: and secondarily there were two judges relied on speculative information.

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Speaker 1: What would that be Diddy is a billionaire and didd

441
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Speaker 1: he can flee the country. I don't think that's speculative.

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00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: So what are they talking about? Are they saying when

443
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the prosecution said he could intimidate witnesses, You've got witnesses

444
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: lined up claiming he threatened them, physically pulled guns on them,

445
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: and threatened to ruin their careers by releasing porn tapes

446
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Speaker 1: of them. So what's the speculation.

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Speaker 2: All that is solid, Yeah, Nancy, I think what defense

448
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: might be arguing is that the judge relied on like

449
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: representations from the prosecution saying, hey, this is the evidence

450
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Speaker 2: we have and we'll be able to show it. But

451
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Speaker 2: they only submitted one video the prosecution with their response

452
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Speaker 2: to the motion for bail, And perhaps the defense is saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: we need to see the hard evidence before the court,

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Speaker 2: and that court means to basis ruling on that hard evidence,

455
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Speaker 2: not just statements from the prosecute.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Eric Fattus, why do you expect the state to

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Speaker 1: put on probitive evidence that they're going to use a

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Speaker 1: trial in a bond hearing. All you have to show

459
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Speaker 1: at a bond hearing is one one of several items.

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Speaker 1: They're a flight risk, they're a danger to the community

461
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Speaker 1: or to themselves. They would try to temper with or

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Speaker 1: intimidate a witness. Those are three. I can show all

463
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Speaker 1: three of those just like that, at the drop of

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Speaker 1: the hat. So I don't need hard evidence. We already

465
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Speaker 1: have the video, the cast venture of video, which shows

466
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Speaker 1: he will beat a victim, no question about that. We

467
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Speaker 1: already know that he is loaded that he can run

468
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: right over to Titeboro or the private airstrip and leave

469
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Speaker 1: if he wants to. He's got the means to do that.

470
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Speaker 1: And he's a danger. I mean, when you don't know

471
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Speaker 1: a horse fattest. Look at his track How many people

472
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Speaker 1: has he allegedly sex assaulted? When you've got a track

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Speaker 1: record like that, why am I gonna Why do I

474
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Speaker 1: think you're going to turn into a choir boy if

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Speaker 1: you get bond? So right there, I got it nailed

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Speaker 1: on three bond requirements.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel you, Nancy.

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Speaker 2: And when I was a prosecutor, rarely did I ever

479
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Speaker 2: submit like actual you know, yeah, no, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it's not a full blown trial

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Speaker 2: at a blond hearing. The defendant doesn't have the same rights.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the right to confrontation, they don't have

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Speaker 2: the right to cross examined witnesses. It's much more informal

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Speaker 2: than that, and so the prosecution really handled this in

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Speaker 2: a customary fashion.

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Speaker 1: I think defense's argument on appeal regarding.

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Speaker 2: Bond is going to fail.

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Speaker 1: For crime stories.

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Speaker 3: With Nancy Grace, the first big name celebrity to be

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Speaker 3: officially accused of misconduct at a Didy party is Kanye West.

491
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: West former assistant Lauren Pashotta claims that a join party

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Speaker 3: with Diddy, her boss, forced her to have at least

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Speaker 3: one drink. Lauren says she woke up the next morning

494
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Speaker 3: with no memory of the night before, thinking someone had

495
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Speaker 3: laced her drink. Years later, Ye brought up the time

496
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Speaker 3: they hooked up. It was then Lauren realized West had

497
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Speaker 3: sexually assaulted her.

498
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Speaker 1: In the last hours a Kanye West sex harassment claim

499
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Speaker 1: claiming that Kanye drugged her at a Shawn Combs did

500
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Speaker 1: a studio session and assaulted her. We've heard all along

501
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Speaker 1: that names are going to be named and that no

502
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Speaker 1: one is safe. Take a lesson, specifically from a plaintiffs lawyer,

503
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Speaker 1: the one with the eight hundred number call. Did he

504
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Speaker 1: if he molested you, that guy Tony Busby.

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Speaker 13: If you were attending one of these parties, if you

506
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Speaker 13: will and attended before, or you knew what was going

507
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Speaker 13: to happen, That is, you knew that a particular drug

508
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 13: was being used in drinks that was causing people to

509
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Speaker 13: be coursed and taken advantage of, and you were there

510
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Speaker 13: in the room, or you participated or you watched it

511
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Speaker 13: happen and didn't say anything, or you helped cover it up.

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Speaker 9: In my view, you have a problem that.

513
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Speaker 1: Climp from our friends over at TMZ. You got buzzby

514
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Speaker 1: claiming he is going to out anybody that was at

515
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Speaker 1: the party that enabled comes to attack women or his colleagues.

516
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Speaker 1: But who was he talking about. Apparently he doesn't have

517
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Speaker 1: a problem with naming celebs. So let me understand. What

518
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Speaker 1: is the claim Lauren Colin against Kanye. Oh, yeah, he's

519
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: not a sexhibitionist. Have you seen him leading around his

520
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: wife with she's basically naked. He's always fully dressed, like

521
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Speaker 1: completely head to wrist to toe and she's wearing like

522
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Speaker 1: a band aid. So whatever, don't care. I only care

523
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Speaker 1: about these claims against these victims. So how does Kanye?

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Speaker 1: How's he part of this?

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Speaker 7: Kanye allegedly threw this party with Diddy, And I just

526
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Speaker 7: want to point out that this lawsuit from his assistant,

527
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Speaker 7: it was initially filed in June of twenty twenty four,

528
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Speaker 7: and it was sexual harassment and wrongful termination because he

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Speaker 7: let her go, and then she just recently added this

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Speaker 7: the sexual assault charge because she saw what was happening.

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Speaker 7: She felt safe and she felt like this was important.

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Speaker 1: Okay too, Tom Samith is joining me, former NYPD detective,

533
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Speaker 1: he's seen it all. I know you're busy right now

534
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Speaker 1: creating your Goal Shields podcast, which is a big hit.

535
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Speaker 1: But can you think back in a time warp do

536
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Speaker 1: when you were working the street as an NYPD Every

537
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: time there's a rape case, the first thing defendant says

538
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Speaker 1: is I don't know her. Next thing they say is,

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Speaker 1: oh her, Yeah, I know her. I saw her at

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Speaker 1: a bar. Next thing they say is it was consensual,

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Speaker 1: she asked for it. And finally when bruises and torn

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Speaker 1: clothes emerge, then they plead guilty. Okay, so right here

543
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: we're seeing they're all hookers and hoes. That's the defense.

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Speaker 1: He's claiming that Cassie Ventura is a money seeking, jealous cheater.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's the bad one. You saw the video, right, Tom. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're setting their defense up there. They're disparaging

547
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Speaker 4: any future jurors. They're disparaging any future witnesses that are

548
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Speaker 4: kind of come forward of look what we're going to

549
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: do to you if you come forward and talk about

550
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: what happened there, We're going to ruin your life. We're gonna,

551
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 4: you know, delve deep into your background and we're going

552
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: to make your life hell. And that's what they're setting up.

553
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Speaker 4: And they're intimidating witnesses that are maybe set to come

554
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Speaker 4: forward or thinking about coming forward.

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Speaker 5: You know.

556
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Speaker 6: Doctor King called it the law of unattended consequences.

557
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: So sometimes the more you push a person down, the.

558
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Speaker 1: Stronger they get. Okay, did I just hear a comes

559
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Speaker 1: Attorney Anthony Ricou compare Shawn Combs to MLK Jr. Did

560
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: he actually just do that? Because I think he did.

561
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Speaker 1: He actually compared. Shawn comes to the Reverend doctor Martin

562
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Speaker 1: Luther King Junior. Okay, f Yi, Agna, fellow, don't do

563
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: that at trial. It's not going to work. By the way,

564
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Speaker 1: we we got that from our friends at India today.

565
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: He actually compared. Okay, he compared. Shawn comes to MLK Jr.

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Speaker 1: Letslet's get back on track. Let's get out of the

567
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: weeds and back on the road. Shawn Holmes, insisting that

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Speaker 1: he be allowed to name the alleged rape victims listen.

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Speaker 11: Agniphilo has also asked that the prosecution be made to

570
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Speaker 11: name all of Diddy's accusers that may testify against him.

571
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Speaker 11: Agniphilo argues that droves of anonymous lawsuits are creating a

572
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Speaker 11: hysterical media storm that will irreparably deprive mister Colmbs of

573
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Speaker 11: a fair trial. Specifically, Agniphilo references Houston attorney Tony Busby's

574
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Speaker 11: press conference claiming to represent over one hundred anonymous victims,

575
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Speaker 11: calling it a publicity stunt. Agniphilo says the only way

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Speaker 11: Combs can prepare an adequate defense is eliminating any surprises

577
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Speaker 11: by naming his accusers.

578
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: Eliminating surprises. That's why we have a bill of indictment

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Speaker 1: with all of the witnesses, names, addresses, and phone numbers

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Speaker 1: on it. That's handed over to the defense. This is

581
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Speaker 1: not trial by ambush. They have all the witnesses. What

582
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Speaker 1: Comms wants is to publicly name the alleged rape victims.

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Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw is just another tactic. First of all, all

584
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Speaker 1: the alleged victims are hookers and hoes. That's the first claim,

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Speaker 1: which is I feel like I mean a dirt sandwich

586
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Speaker 1: even repeating it. But that said, the next thing, let's

587
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Speaker 1: shame them. You have dealt with the rape victims, as

588
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Speaker 1: have I. The last thing they want is to be

589
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Speaker 1: confronted about what happened and the civil Many of the

590
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Speaker 1: civil complainants have already made themselves known. What is the strategy, Lynn, Well.

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Speaker 6: The strategy is for them just to be so disruptive

592
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Speaker 6: and loud and say these outrageous things, shaming women in particular.

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Speaker 6: We have to remember there's a lot of men. We

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Speaker 6: have to go there too. But you know, what they're

595
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Speaker 6: saying is just to put fear and everybody. We see

596
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Speaker 6: this on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: This is why.

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Speaker 6: People do not come forward with these rape cases. And

599
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: you know what their strategy is, from what we heard,

600
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 6: is going to be these women came here of their

601
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Speaker 6: own free will, and you know what, they may have

602
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Speaker 6: done that. But I want to just go back a

603
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Speaker 6: little bit. I think we need to be focusing on

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Speaker 6: the males that were there and the miners that were there,

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Speaker 6: and we're not talking enough about that. But you know what,

606
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Speaker 6: this is a lot of noise. I think the public

607
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 6: is smart, and I think he is safer in the

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Speaker 6: Manhattan Detention Center than out on bail because who knows

609
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Speaker 6: what might happen to him with all these people circling

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Speaker 6: around to.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dwayne Hendricks former Associate Warden, MDC in Brooklyn, former

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Speaker 1: senior warden with USDJ thirty years. The man knows what

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Speaker 1: he's talking about. I've been asked this question from everywhere,

614
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: to Sunday School to Walmart. Doctor Hendrix, do you believe

615
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Speaker 1: there is a chance that Sean Combs is going to

616
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Speaker 1: be attacked and or beaten behind bars at NBC?

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Speaker 8: No, No, not at all, especially if he's being housed

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Speaker 8: in a special unit while he's going through this process. However,

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Speaker 8: I will say, if he is convicted of some of

620
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Speaker 8: the crimes that he's alleged to have committed, it will

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Speaker 8: be very, very difficult for him to what we call

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Speaker 8: walk on a compound engage in the prison culture with

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Speaker 8: other inmates. So he would definitely need to be housed

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Speaker 8: at a facility with individuals with crimes that were committed

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Speaker 8: and convicted of for him to be in a safe environment.

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Speaker 8: So yes, would I would say it's going to be

627
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Speaker 8: very hard for him to integrate himself into a general

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Speaker 8: population unit if he is convicted of these alleged crimes.

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Hendricks, I want the employees and the staff at

630
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Speaker 1: MDC to stay awake and not be online shopping like

631
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Speaker 1: they were when Epstein was killed, which gives me great

632
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Speaker 1: pause regarding the safety of Sean comes. And don't get

633
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Speaker 1: me wrong, I don't want anybody to touch a hair

634
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Speaker 1: on his head because when he comes in front of

635
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Speaker 1: that jury, I want him to be looking good because

636
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Speaker 1: you know what, I believe that is the mask of

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Speaker 1: a predator. I don't want him coming in court all

638
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Speaker 1: beat up and roughed up and looking like he's the

639
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Speaker 1: underdog and he's endured all this hardship. No, I want

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Speaker 1: the jury to see him the way these ladies saw

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Speaker 1: him before they were allegedly raped. You understand, I fully understand.

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Speaker 8: And like I said, there's two things that you don't

643
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Speaker 8: want to be when you're in.

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Speaker 9: Prison in a prison setting.

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Speaker 8: That's one an informant and two a sex offender, especially

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Speaker 8: offenses that are to miners and children.

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Speaker 9: Because if he is convicted of these, it's going to

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Speaker 9: be a problem.

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Speaker 1: They need to quit whining about the food and let's

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Speaker 1: get it on and get it ready for trial. Whining

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Speaker 1: about food and trying to shame the victims, that's getting

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Speaker 1: them nowhere. And FYI, word to the wise, stop sparring

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Speaker 1: with Harvey Levin, especially on video. Nancy Grace signing off

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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,