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Speaker 1: the summer, Say daddy, can we watch Shark Tank? Like? Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: it's good. Shark You always learn something, you always do,

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Speaker 1: always an opportunity to learn, and we do with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Nick, Thanks guys. Binge squawk box Baby,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like it should be a band. Squawk Box

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Speaker 1: Binge a band from Boston. I don't know why when

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Speaker 1: you say squawk and a box that's hard, squawk box

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Speaker 1: squawk it sounds like you're from Boston. So if there

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Speaker 1: Binge on squawk Box on CNBC or Mad Money, What's

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Speaker 1: Bad Money as on the NBC MSNBC. I like Jim Kramer.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Jim Kramer is kind of my inspiration in

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Speaker 1: some sense, as crazy as that might sound. I love

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Speaker 1: his energy. I love when he does his live show,

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Speaker 1: and I love doing live shows. I wish I did

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Speaker 1: more live shows. I mean, I'm not talking radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: like one man stand up, take your question kind of shows,

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Speaker 1: but not stand up like football stand up. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: get the point either way. I don't watch all heck

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Speaker 1: of a lot of CNBC, but it's kind of fun

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Speaker 1: to pick up on it every now and again, so

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Speaker 1: I might have to check out the latest edition a

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Speaker 1: squawk Box. Squawk Box. That's hard to say. You're sitting

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wednesday, Nation of Texas All Access from

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Speaker 1: the und Texans Radio Studio. I'm John. That's Mark. We've

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Speaker 1: been with you before and we are with you again. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, Thursday night crawled up on me fast. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why we had a home game and a

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Speaker 1: look up and we're a day before Thursdaynight game. And

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Speaker 1: not only that, I didn't realize it was Cults Broncos,

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Speaker 1: and now the Cults will be without Jonathan Taylor. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy about that. I'm very happy about that. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Broncho fan Tomorrow Night only, Yes, And I

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Speaker 1: wish Jonathan Taylor didn't play against US. I think Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor should take the rest of the season off, just

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Speaker 1: for health and safety reasons, of course. But without him,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for them to beat the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: But they can do it because the Broncos are not

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Speaker 1: exactly a juggernaut themselves. These are two teams the Texans

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Speaker 1: should have beaten. It's funny how often we're seeing a

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Speaker 1: couple of teams the Texans either play, have played whatever.

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Speaker 1: But that's the league. I mean, you have seventeen games. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen a lot, especially when you're watching your

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Speaker 1: division in primetime and Tennessee and the Colts have their

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Speaker 1: share of those. So yeah, go Broncos Thursday night. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I bet I bet one dollar. I bet I could

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Speaker 1: get you to cheer for the Colts. Okaya, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: there's a time in which I can get you, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be against AFC South team. Really,

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Speaker 1: I bet I could get you to cheer for the

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Speaker 1: Colts if present a scenario to you, all right, please do.

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Speaker 1: I'll just start with these names and then you know

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Speaker 1: where I'm going with this, all right, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: Will Levis all right, So you're saying next year's quarterback

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Speaker 1: class if the Colts keep losing, Oh, they're gonna draft

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. Yes, Oh, we can't see see.

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Speaker 1: I told you, I told you this is bad. I

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Speaker 1: told you all all you needed. We're just to hear

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Speaker 1: some of those names. This is Gordon Gecko saying to

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Speaker 1: Bud Fox, we got to carry him for a few

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Speaker 1: rounds before they fall. It's Blue Star Airlines or whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. You've got to have the Colts win a

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Speaker 1: few so they don't draft that high and get a

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Speaker 1: really monstrously good signal caller next year. That's the one

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Speaker 1: thing that organization has lacked since Andrew retired. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw this one at you. Stamford Rat was on with

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Speaker 1: Landry and Lopez today and they asked him about a

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Speaker 1: this coach the locker room quitting on the coach and

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Speaker 1: the coach losing the locker room. Landry asked, what is

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Speaker 1: that really? What happens? And Stafford gave a good explanation.

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Speaker 1: You know, Wednesday, you get into the team meeting, guys

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Speaker 1: are tuning out, rolling eyes, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: Then you see the reflection on Sunday in the performance.

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Speaker 1: And they asked about would the locker room quit or

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Speaker 1: would Frank Reich lose the locker room in Indy if

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Speaker 1: this kind of thing continues. Gosh, it's so hard for

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Speaker 1: me to imagine that happening. I would have an easier

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Speaker 1: time believing they might lose faith in the system more

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Speaker 1: than the man himself. Yes, if that makes sense. In yes,

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Speaker 1: I especially those defensive guys. If the defensive guys keep

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Speaker 1: looking up and it's listen, we're holding our own over here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't even actually kill Leonard. We're holding

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Speaker 1: our own over here, and they keep giving it away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are they doing? They scored seventeen points against the Titans. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: Titans have got some We know the Titans have got

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Speaker 1: some staunch defenders over there, but they score points second half.

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Speaker 1: Tell them without a point of second half. Yeah, that's big.

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Speaker 1: When you hold somebody without a point in the second half,

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Speaker 1: you expect to win in this league unless you're down huge.

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Speaker 1: I could see. I could see the defensive players in

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Speaker 1: particular looking over there, going, well, what are y'all doing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we held the Chiefs to seventeen. We got to win

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Speaker 1: that day. Now the Jaguars, that's a whole different That

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Speaker 1: was a whole different ball game. But then again, Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan threw a pair of interceptions, lost the ball in

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Speaker 1: a fumble. Was awful. I don't know if he was

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Speaker 1: awful the other day against the Titans, but he threw

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Speaker 1: for three hundred and fifty six yards, but it felt

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Speaker 1: like they were hollow. Well, he threw it for a

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Speaker 1: lot of yards against the Texans, but it didn't look

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Speaker 1: that good right here, and they missed that field goal

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Speaker 1: that would have won it for them here on opening day.

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Speaker 1: Defense couldn't have been too happy about that either, because

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Speaker 1: they shut down the Texans. Once the Texans got the twenty,

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Speaker 1: they shut them down. So from a Cults perspective, I

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Speaker 1: could understand some frustration on that side of the football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's where I think it could build up. But I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think it will be at either or Ballard.

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Speaker 1: I think it will be we need to get and

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Speaker 1: Naim Heinz said it. Naim Hines actually came out and

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Speaker 1: said it this past week. He was talking about the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was asked right after the

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Speaker 1: game or who was asked on Monday after the game,

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Speaker 1: and so he was talking about the situation, said, look,

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Speaker 1: look over at the other sideline, look at the Titans

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. He's been there year after year after year

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Speaker 1: after year. What he wasn't saying is Tannehill's not even

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Speaker 1: making all that many plays. But because he's been there,

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Speaker 1: they know what they have. Continuity, they know what they have.

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Speaker 1: We're starting over the new quarterback every year. If you

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Speaker 1: think about it, twenty Ballard took over in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but even before that, go go all the way back

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Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, or let's do this. Twenty fourteen started

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Speaker 1: quarterback was Luck. Twenty fifteen it was hassleback for much

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Speaker 1: of the year. Twenty sixteen. He went back to Luck.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seventeens, Jacoby after Scott Tolzine twenty eighteen, went back

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Speaker 1: to Luck. To nineteen, it is Jacoby tent twenty, it's

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Speaker 1: the Rivers twenty one, it's Wins twenty two, it's Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean name Hindes is dead on. I

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Speaker 1: mean they haven't had the same quarterback starting year after year,

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Speaker 1: going all the way back to lux what third year one? Two?

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Speaker 1: Was you draft to twelve? So third year in the

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Speaker 1: league in twenty fourteen, and do people get spoiled looking

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Speaker 1: at Brady go into Tampa Bay winning a Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: first year. I think that's part of that too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you've figured that a guy like Rivers or Matt

589
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Speaker 1: Ryan is going to come in and be able to

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Speaker 1: operate things, and hey, it's a different system. There might

591
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Speaker 1: be some similarities, but well but it's still a new

592
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: team and you got to get used to it. And

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Speaker 1: look the Bucks and it's Brady. It's the greatest of

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Speaker 1: all time. You cannot expect that from every right guy.

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00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen that way. There's so many

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00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: These NFL teams are such Italian sports cars. I mean,

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00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: just something Harry trigger off just a little bit and

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Speaker 1: that thing, that thing's gonna shut down. What you need

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Speaker 1: is a hyunday, really yeah hunday, Like we are in

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Speaker 1: a hunt in Texans Radio Studio, So Colts Broncos on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. We will tree for the Broncos and for

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00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: teams against the Colts up until a certain point. What

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Speaker 1: if the AFC South team is playing the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I still I hate to say I'm root for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: but I don't want to see anything will be three

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Speaker 1: of those this year in Yeah, I know, I know

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Speaker 1: it's just weird. That's a weird deal to me, but

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Speaker 1: I got a root for the Cowboys in that, and

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Speaker 1: I don't root for them hard, but I just kind

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Speaker 1: of want them to prevail. The evening. I'm gonna say something.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Landry and John do this thing called

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Speaker 1: lunchtime confessions. I love that segment. I'm really ticked off

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Speaker 1: that they took that segment. We could steal it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're borrowing. We give them credit, and it's just the

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Speaker 1: same piece of content. So here's my dinner time confession.

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Speaker 1: I go ahead. I don't really hate the Cowboys. What Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me finish. Okay, I don't really hate the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I don't care for Jerry all that much. Okay, though, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hate Cowboys fans. Okay, Cowboys fans are ob noxious,

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Speaker 1: but they've gotten less so since they've been so long,

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Speaker 1: since they've gotten a ring. Yeah, you know, the whole

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Speaker 1: got rings thing. And then after a while, it's like

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Speaker 1: you've got those rings a long time ago, So what

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Speaker 1: have you done? Since here's the thing with the Cowboys fans,

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people would say this, not me.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying a lot of people would say this about

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Speaker 1: Longhorn fans and Aggie fans. When your team does start

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Speaker 1: to win, you are insufferable. That's true. We cannot stand

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Speaker 1: you when your team wins. That's not me. Saying it.

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Speaker 1: It's other people of right with the Dallas Cowboys. Clearly

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Speaker 1: that is the case. What bothers me now is they're

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Speaker 1: winning without Deck and I like the story because Cooper

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Speaker 1: Rush is a Chippewa. I don't like the winning part

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Speaker 1: of the story. I'd rather have just Cooper Rush playing

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Speaker 1: well and they're losing. That would be nice to me. Look,

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Speaker 1: I respect them, I respect everybody in this league. And

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Speaker 1: I respect what they've built there and everything what they

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Speaker 1: built us in terms of infrastructure, Shanni, the Star, the stadium,

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00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: it's cool stuff in Big D. But they don't win.

640
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: The Texans have more playoff victories than the Cowboys since

641
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: Houston was formed as a franchise, since the Texans were formed.

642
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I think it's highly notable. But it shows

643
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you how powerful the brand is the Star that they

644
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: can still command that kind of attention because he either

645
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: love them or you hate him, and that's just the

646
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: way it goes. That's why they are on national television.

647
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: The full compliment. I right, but I'll give you that.

648
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say though about the Cowboys, and

649
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching this whole errand Judge thing go on and

650
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: with this whole Erron Judge thing. Oh is he gonna

651
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: hit it in? They're always breaking into college football games

652
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: and fans like, do we care? Right, well, it's and

653
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: it's Yankee hatred too. He's the Yankees are so not likable.

654
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see that. He is not a Yankee fan, right,

655
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: So then you've got Yankees fans and everybody else hates

656
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: them seemingly. I don't feel like the media treats the

657
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys that way. Maybe I'm wrong about that. It doesn't

658
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's always this unless it's you know, Stephen

659
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: A wanted to poke at the Cowboys a little bit,

660
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: but you know, it feels like the end of fell

661
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: it kind of gets spread out amongst everybody else. Or

662
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: the love from the media, well both, I guess just

663
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: the attention from the media. I don't know. If the

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys were winning a lot, that's different they are. Maybe

665
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: that's the case. We haven't seen them win. They haven't

666
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: seen that. It went twelve games last year. That's pretty nice. Yeah,

667
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was over the top. No,

668
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't over the top. The division was terrible. We

669
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: all know, Well, it wasn't terrible terrible. The Eagles were whatever.

670
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: But here is the situation. Dak is likable, the media

671
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: likes Dak, and I kind of like Dad and he's

672
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: a good dude. But we don't like the Cowboys. So

673
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: you're torn there. Yeah, Dak's a good guy. I like Dak,

674
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: but I don't like them. It's a weird situation. I

675
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: think they have some likable players, but they're not likable

676
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: as a franchise to a lot of people. So we

677
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: take on the two and two Jaguars on Sunday. Oh yeah,

678
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: the cults are taken on the culture one two and one.

679
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: They're taking on the Broncos tomorrow night and the Titans,

680
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: and the Titans go to Washington, oh Man to take

681
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: on a Commander's the Commandos, and they watched. I watched

682
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: that game because I wanted to see Tyler Smith, I

683
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: left tackle for the Cowboys, and I wanted to see

684
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: just how he was doing, so I it was kind

685
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: of awesome. I watched that whole game, but I watched

686
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense basically in like fifteen minutes. But as

687
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I'm like, man, this defensive line for

688
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: Washingtons supposed to be all that and Cooper Rush has

689
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: got time to throw Tyler Smith. That rookie is just

690
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: eating guys up. I mean they're not even getting to

691
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback at that point. Is everybody healthy in Washington?

692
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: What's going on? Montes? There's there's no Chase Young Yellow.

693
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Chase Young's not bad for his career, that's not good.

694
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: But but I mean the timing of when he tours

695
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: a cell and coming back, I don't know that's gonna

696
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tricky. But that's just not the Commanders.

697
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I did sneak in enough watching of their offense,

698
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: and it's how'd they beat the Jags? I don't know.

699
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: I have to go back and look at that game.

700
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean Wentz out of Wentz in the first game,

701
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: he had a he had a nice comeback against him

702
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: because the Jags I lead and then went kind of

703
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: brought him back. I want to say that Wentz through

704
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: three or four touchdown passes and this three in the

705
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: second half. Maybe in that game. I don't I don't recall.

706
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: I know you do your keys on Friday. I don't know.

707
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: I got a big key to this one. Make the

708
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: Jags beat the Jags. Okay, have that kind of day.

709
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't like it that they had the

710
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: turnover fest in Philadelphia because we kind of need that

711
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: to happen in North Florida on Sunday. Maybe it can

712
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: happen again, maybe a mini turnover fest. Well, this team

713
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: are defense, don't They'll punch the ball out. They'll go

714
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: after the football that I know. So if Trevor is

715
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: shown he's put it on a turf rain or otherwise,

716
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: they'll they'll go find it. The one thing about the

717
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Jags watching watching their defense, Miles Sanders had one hundred

718
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: and thirty four yards against them. I think that was

719
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: the number. I think it was one hundred and thirty

720
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: four on twenty seven carriages. They ran for two hundred

721
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: and ten against the against the Jaguars. They got me

722
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: excited at first, and then as I'm watching a game like,

723
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: oh boy, the Jags, the Eagles essentially as they were

724
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: going against the Jags, every time they got kind of

725
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: a condensed or heavy formation. So you think about the Texans.

726
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Texans got that seventy five yard touchdown run with a

727
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: tight end, a wingback, a fullback. They were in a

728
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: condensed formation if you allow the Jags to be in

729
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: their regular their base set, their three fourth set. They're tough.

730
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: But where the Eagles got them was they spread them out.

731
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: They spread them out, and they went ten personnel, no

732
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: tight ends and just four wides. Well, then the Jags

733
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: spread everybody out. So now you got five on six

734
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: in the box and you have Jalen with the ability

735
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: to pull it and run. And they sliced them with that.

736
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: And they sliced them because they've got some RPOs. And

737
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: there were times where it wasn't really an RPO, it

738
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: was just a give and a linebacker would would fade

739
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: out thinking he was going to cover the stick route

740
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: on the receiver and then saying, it's got all kinds

741
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: of room to run, And I think that's gonna be

742
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: a key. Can the Texans replicate that? And if they

743
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: can't replicate that, then they gotta win repeatedly against a

744
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: very very good front, a very very good front. But

745
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: Boker looking good, Lloyd, those two, the guy who looks

746
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: maybe the best, well Lloyd's Lloyd looks like the best.

747
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Walkers is right there. Josh Allen is playing in credibly

748
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: well olacoon and linebacker is a dude, he's wearing number

749
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: twenty three, which throws you off because you're like, are

750
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: they all he is? He is safety and then you're, oh, no,

751
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: that's Olacon because he wore fifty fourth the Falcons and

752
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: now he's wearing twenty three, so that throws you off completely.

753
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: But you know, offensively, they didn't They didn't do a

754
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: whole lot. Cisco had a pick and took it to

755
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: the house. That was that was the second touchdown, and

756
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: then they got one late in the fourth quarter and

757
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: that was that was kind of it. So they didn't

758
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: do a whole lot in the rain, and it doesn't

759
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: look like we're gonna get rained. But I'll give Trevor credit.

760
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: He's taken what he's taking profit. Yeah, he's just that's

761
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: what it looked like to me. And just looking at

762
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: the numbers, the yards pertch in their victories, it looked

763
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: like that a controlled passing game. They can run it

764
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: well enough, and that's trouble. Well, so Jonathan Taylor's not

765
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: playing Thursday night. You think James Robinson can take a

766
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: day off, maybe that'd be nice. Well, I mean, he

767
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: didn't run it much the other day. He ran at

768
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: eight for twenty nine so in the rain, I mean,

769
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: here's the here's the key. They only had. They ran

770
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: forty six plays against the Eagles. Well, they kept getting

771
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: the ball back. Oh the Jags ran forty lay Well

772
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: they kept giving the ball up. Yeah, that's the problem.

773
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: The Eagles ran seventy seven, seventy seven plays to forty six.

774
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an excuse. You want to talk

775
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: about the math problem that you have to solve later.

776
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles on battle Red Night November third way

777
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: right here at NRG Stadium. I am looking forward to

778
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: that game with the battle Red Helmets. But my gosh,

779
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: Eagles are good. I heard Ross Tucker say this, and

780
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: I agree with him totally. He said, every single unit receivers, quarterback,

781
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: running back, oh, tight ends, d line, linebackers, safeties, corners,

782
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: top ten unit across the every every unit top ten

783
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think they get so good. Well,

784
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: you know what, how many players remain? I haven't prepped

785
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: the Eagles yet obviously since seventeen. Yeah, I know, not

786
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: too many since seventeen. But they went to the playoffs

787
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: and they had that game where they played Josh McCown

788
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: because everybody, Yeah, that was the next year. Yeah, so

789
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: that was a while ago, and I'm sure the roster

790
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: has flipped pretty six. That was nineteen, Sorry, that was nineteen.

791
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: That was nineteen. So then you have the COVID year.

792
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: They just started adding a little bit here, a little

793
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: bit there. And then how he made some moves in

794
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the draft and credit because sirian Smith. They went and

795
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: they traded for a J Brown signed him, who had

796
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: the worst moment of any coach in an introductory press

797
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: conference years and Sirianni it looked like, does this guy

798
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: even know anything about what they're doing now? And look

799
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: at them their four and oh, now no one's handing

800
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: out trophies at four and oh but that's a good start.

801
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: Everybody would like to have that start. Well, some teams

802
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: that are undefeated, like you could look at the Dolphins

803
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: and go, okay, that team's not gonna stay undefeated there.

804
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a game where they're offensively challenged. How

805
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: are they going to run the ball in certain games?

806
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: What if two goes out? And did how do you

807
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: stop the Eagles? This looks solid because if you stop

808
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: the passing game, then Jayalen the running game get going.

809
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: If the running game's not going when they could throw

810
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: it to the agent, they're gonna have a knock where

811
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: the ball gets knocked loose and maybe to a lead

812
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna be able to come back or

813
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe so, but that ain't gonna happen

814
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: often now because they came back from fourteen nothing on

815
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Sunday in the rain. I hope it happens here in

816
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: November three, but that's a that's down the road. We're

817
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: thinking about the Jags Folk Show. When we get back.

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00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the NFL some news and notes,

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00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: one big one I just mentioned about Jonathan Taylor. But

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00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: we're also gonna focus on the Texans injury report because

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00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,440
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Speaker 1: right here in our city with the Houston Texans and

849
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Speaker 1: the injury report from today, Keith Thing Texas how to

850
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: walk through on Wednesday. Injury report is only an estimation

851
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: of a player's participation. Well, that's the case's estimation. Who

852
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: boy two four six eight players DMP Blay Cashman concussion

853
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: which he suffered in that game against the Chargers last week.

854
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: Austin Deculus, Jonathan Grenard both deal with ankles. Kurt Highness illness,

855
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes so rest day Wednesday, saying with Christian kirksee

856
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: brevnd Jordan's ankle, Chris Moore hip limited participants, Malie Collins

857
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: that knee, Brandy Cooks was arrest and Derek Steingley Jr.

858
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: Dealing with that elbow slash shoulder. Full dicipense would have

859
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: been Kenyan Greene, Titus Howard, Kenyan So dealing with that

860
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: knee and Titus with the ankle got rolled up on

861
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: on that sack and the fumble came out. Now, the

862
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: Jaguars just wanted to keep an eye on there's just

863
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: not as long the limited participants came on. The chasaw

864
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: on with the ankles a Jones ankle. They were both

865
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: inactive last week cole Van landing of its liman hamstring.

866
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: But this one in the middle of fully folk Takassi quadricep.

867
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Now there's a thought he's there's a thought he's not

868
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: gonna play. Now again, We've do this with injuries. But

869
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: he is a key. He's a massive reason where the

870
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Jaguars have been so good against the running when he

871
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: comes off the field. When teams put eleven and ten

872
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: personnel on the field, that's when the Eagles are able

873
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: to run. Texas don't do that as much. When they

874
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: run the ball. They get a twenty one personnel full back, tailback.

875
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: There's your two backs and then one being the tight end,

876
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: or twenty two with two tight ends, and they just

877
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: hammer well Fotakasis on the field for that. If he's

878
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: not on the field for that, and he's on the

879
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: field at all, that should be a big feather in

880
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: Texas cap, hopefully as they try and run the ball

881
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars team that got shredded last week. Two

882
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: hundred ten yards for the Eagles, but the Eagles do

883
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: it in such different and unique ways, and they get

884
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: rushing yards from Jalen Hurts, which you're not gonna get

885
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: from Davis Mills. So Fatukasi is a big figuratively and

886
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: literally reason why the Jaguars are doing what they're doing

887
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: this year. All Right, the news for it tomorrow night.

888
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: We mentioned it a little bit earlier. Jonathan Taylor running

889
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: back for the Colts out against the Broncos up at

890
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: Mile High. Wow, that's not gonna be good for the Colts, which,

891
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: like we said, we don't mind that. If that's the

892
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: case that he is, he's not gonna play in that one.

893
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: But Naim Hines has done some work before for as

894
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: a running back. More so he's been the third down

895
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: running back. It changes some of the wrinkles they have.

896
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: Remember against us, they ran that wildcat with Taylor and

897
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: Hines not gonna be able to do that. So so

898
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: the Colts gotta find it way without Jonathan Taylor against

899
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: the Broncos in Denver. Dany Jeremiah, who saw Sunday he's

900
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: the color analysts for the LA Chargers, put together his

901
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: top twenty five rookies through four weeks of the year,

902
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: and at number nine, Jalen Petrie at number ten Damian Peers.

903
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: Now there probably are not gonna be too many players

904
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: on here. Of an offensive line category, he has Zion Johnson,

905
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: but he watches Zion Johnson every single week. And against

906
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Kenyan was good, not great. Unfortunately, he was

907
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: the one who got beat for the sack. So I

908
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: can see that. But I know there's a pick. Oh

909
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: my god, what are they gonna do? They don't have

910
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: the two Texas to first tip. It's it's a ranking

911
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: by Daniel Jeremiah, who is well respected. But you don't

912
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: think Derek Stingley and Kenny Green were good picks. Stop stop,

913
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: just relax. They got a lot of football to play

914
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: this year, Kennyan Green and Derek Stingingly approve, and they

915
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: can be here for the next ten to twelve years

916
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: and be fine. I'm not sweating the fact they're not

917
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: on Danna Jeremiah's top twenty five lists. I did think

918
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: it was cool that Jandela Petrie and Damian Pierce made

919
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: the top ten at nine to ten, respectively. But I'm

920
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: not gonna lose sleepover the fact that the Texans two

921
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: first round picks who have played well this year are

922
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: not in the top twenty five. Oh the horror, all right,

923
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: So there you go. Coming up next, We're going men

924
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: behind the Mikes. Two of my favorite people in the world.

925
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: I work with Mark. He is a dear, dear friend

926
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: of mine, Mark Vandamer Frank Frangie is someone I have

927
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: known since nineteen ninety four when I move to Jacksonville,

928
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: and I've known him ever since. And obviously I see

929
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: him twice a year as he calls games for the Jaguars.

930
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Speaker 1: My two friends get together next. Men be Hindhi Mikes

931
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,480
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Speaker 1: Rosoftavental Wide Open across the five peas in touchdown, Houston

943
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Speaker 1: picks for this Texans defense takeaway number three on the day.

945
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Speaker 1: Game Day is every day, five nights a week. They

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Speaker 1: left to go right here on a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I

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Speaker 1: am John Harris, your host, and very glad to be

951
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: your host. Each it every Wednesday in season for two hours,

952
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: so the second hour we kick it off with our

953
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: men behind the mics. Now, I've been in the building.

954
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: This is now my ninth year doing the show, so

955
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: it's my night season. I've been around a building. I've

956
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: been around since two thousand and seven. I've known Mark

957
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Vandamer since then and he has become family to me.

958
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: But it's very rare when we do a men behind

959
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 1: a Mike's segment. And I actually have known the other

960
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: voice longer than Mark, and that's Frank FRANGI no Frank

961
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety four. I moved to Jacksonville right out

962
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: of college and it start coach at Episcopal High School,

963
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: and our past across many many times got to know

964
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: each other, and I think he is fantasticy what he does.

965
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: I think he's a fantastic human being. He is salt

966
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: of the earth. He is everything you want in a

967
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: friend host just in all I mean an ally, I

968
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: mean whatever you want. He's fantastic. I mean Frank and

969
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: Mark cut from the same clock. Well, those two broke

970
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: bread talking about this matchup between the Jags and the Texans. Mark,

971
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: take it away joint, I guess right now Texans Radio.

972
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: It's the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Frank, Frangie and Frank.

973
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to catch up and tell me how

974
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: it's going. So far? Good start. I know you're not

975
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: happy about what happened in Philly, But what do you

976
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: think so far? My friend? Yeah, Mark, great to be

977
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: with you, man. Always great to catch up and I

978
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you this weekend. Yeah, you know what,

979
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: our team's better. I think that that's kind of the storyline.

980
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Four games into this thing. I got away from the

981
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Jags a little bit on Sunday, but it's a better

982
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: team than it has been. I think there's been some

983
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: struggles around here, you know that. And this Doug Peterson

984
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: guy's really good. He's great to work with. He's a

985
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: really good coach. Trevor Lawrence is going to be very good. Look,

986
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: they've played four games, two have been on the three

987
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: of the four have been on the road, two against

988
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: really good teams, obviously with the Eagles and the Chargers.

989
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: And they're two and two and they've led all four games.

990
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: So I think for the first time in a long time, Mark,

991
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: there's some hope around here. We needed that, all right.

992
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: So Trevor Lawrence year two. I know he's coming off

993
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: the turnover game with the fumbles, the pick, but overall

994
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: you're seeing a better product here. Is it Peterson? Is

995
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: it one year older? What is it? Frank? A little

996
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: bit of all of the above. I think more of

997
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: the former than the ladder. I think Doug Peterson's really good.

998
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: This guy's a really good coach. I mean, he won

999
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: the only Super Bowl ever in Philadelphia history, and a

1000
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: year later he gets fired. Two years later, he gets fired.

1001
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: It's a weird deal. The Jags were lucky he was available.

1002
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: He's been I mean, he's created the culture. Mark we've

1003
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 1: had some culture issues around here. I think you probably

1004
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: figured that out with Urban last year and some of

1005
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: the stuff that happened after the good year in seventeen.

1006
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: This guy's ended all that. Everybody's pulling in the same direction.

1007
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: I really believe that. And he's a really good quarterbacks guy. See,

1008
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Speaker 1: he's made a difference with Trevor. Look, Trevis started twenty

1009
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: one games in the NFL. We were joking about this

1010
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: when the Jacks played the Colts a few weeks ago.

1011
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Mark Matt Ryan was making his two hundred and twenty

1012
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: fourth career start. Trevor was making his nineteenth, you know,

1013
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: So there's a little difference, but he's getting there. Did

1014
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: not play very well last week, had the turnovers, everybody

1015
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: knows that. But he's been way better. He's had two

1016
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Speaker 1: back to back games, very good against the Coles and

1017
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: on the road against the Chargers. He's making progress. He's

1018
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Speaker 1: not there yet, but I think Trevor Lawrence is going

1019
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: to be what everybody expecting to be. And that's the goodness.

1020
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: I just saw the Chargers up close in personal, and

1021
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: so did the Texans fans, and the Jaguars took them

1022
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: down on the West coast. What was the key to

1023
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: that game. As I look at it, it looked like

1024
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence had a really good controlled passing game. What are

1025
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Yeah, that was it. He got the ball

1026
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: out of his hands quickly. I think one thing you

1027
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Speaker 1: do with young quarterbacks is all young quarterbacks mark and

1028
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: you know this is you draw it up or maybe

1029
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: that first or second progressions available, even if it means

1030
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: some short stuff. To your point about control passing game,

1031
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: get the shotgun, snap, get the ball out of your

1032
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: hands until you're more accustomed to reading a full steal,

1033
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: a second progression, a third progression, even a fourth, until

1034
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: you're more a customer to that. Get the ball out

1035
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Speaker 1: of the guy's hands. And I think Doug has drawn

1036
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Speaker 1: that up less. The receivers are way better. There's three

1037
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Speaker 1: new receivers here, Zay Jones, Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram. Well,

1038
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Speaker 1: going into last week's games they didn't play. They had

1039
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen and twelve catches between them, so they're the

1040
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Speaker 1: three leading receivers on the team. So better receivers, professional receivers,

1041
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: a really good play caller in Doug Peterson. That was

1042
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Speaker 1: part of why they scored thirty eight points against the Chargers.

1043
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: The other part of that is the defense played really well.

1044
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: Eckler never got going, justin Herbert and Fairness had heard

1045
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: his memory had the rib injury the game before against

1046
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, so he wasn't as mobile as he typically

1047
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Speaker 1: would be. But the Jags really laid it to the Chargers.

1048
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Speaker 1: That might have been as impressive a win as we've

1049
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: had around here since that twenty seventeen season. So that

1050
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: was a big moment. And again there's some up and down.

1051
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: There's some ups and downs with the young team. Mark

1052
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: this team has way more of those twenty three to

1053
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Speaker 1: twenty five than it does those twenty seven to twenty ninets.

1054
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Speaker 1: So it's a young group. I think you're dealing with

1055
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: same thing there. So it's a young group here. So

1056
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ups and downs. But the first

1057
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: four games overall been pretty good. Frank Frangie, voice of

1058
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, joining us. Got to stop the run.

1059
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: That's what every team says going into just about every

1060
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: game in this league. But James Robinson, Travis etn what

1061
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: are we seeing out of them? We know about Robinson,

1062
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: but finally you have last year's draft choice in the

1063
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Clemson product available, and what's he bring into the table. Frank, Yeah,

1064
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: he's fast. That's that speed's real now, Mark, I mean

1065
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: he's leg he's legitimately fast. He's their third down back,

1066
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: and he's the changeup now. Right now, James Robinson's been

1067
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: their lead back. He's the guy running between the tackles.

1068
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: He's the short yardage guy. And Travis Etn has been

1069
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: the guy that comes in on third downs and the

1070
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: guy they try and get on the edge. Now that'll

1071
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: change a little bit. He's gonna mix that up. I

1072
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see Travis etm between the tackle fum

1073
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: and James Robinson catching balls on third down from time

1074
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: to time. But right now he's James Robinson has been

1075
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: between the tackles. Downhill runner, that's what he is. He's

1076
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: a good physical runner who runs downhill. He's not explosive,

1077
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: but he's but he certainly turns a lot of one

1078
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: yard games into four yard games. That's kind of his moo.

1079
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: Travis Etn, I think it's going to be more explosive. Mark.

1080
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: I think he just he just started, but he's out

1081
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: always last year. He's gonna play a handful of game

1082
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: he has. He's the guy they're gonna throw the screens too.

1083
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's gonna catch the ball on third down.

1084
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: So he's kind of the end of the yang of

1085
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: James Robinson. And get that we've just started all this

1086
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: now they've just gotten together. But I like the combination

1087
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: of what they had. They liked both backs. I can

1088
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: tell you that, Frank, I know you pay a lot

1089
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: of attention to what the Gators are doing. You cover

1090
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: the college football scene on your show. Damian Pierce is

1091
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: with the Texans. What do you remember about him from

1092
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: the University of Florida and what do you make of

1093
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: his start? I gotta tell you this, and I hope

1094
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: you'll appreciate this. I know you and are good buddies.

1095
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: You will. I screamed into the mic. Last year, I

1096
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: screamed at my television. I'm I'm surprised I didn't break

1097
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: my television watching these college games last year. How they

1098
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: weren't given the ball more to Damian Pierce. They had

1099
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: three guys they were Malik Davis was kind the leader

1100
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: of the room, so he always started the game. He

1101
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: got the first series. Damian Pierce came in and got

1102
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: the second series, Nat Kuan Reich at the third, and

1103
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: we all said, if they gave the ball to Damian

1104
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: Pierce twenty two times a game rather than he gets

1105
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: his seven, because they all get seven, the Gators will

1106
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: be much better. They never did that, and that became

1107
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: sort of a running joke park on our radio show.

1108
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: I complained about it so much. I said, next year,

1109
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: this guy's going to be the offensive rookie of the

1110
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: year and he's gonna start for some team, and the

1111
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: Gators are going to lament the fact that they didn't

1112
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: play him more. And that was kind of a running

1113
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: joke on our show. Well, it was playing out that way.

1114
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: I think he's you've met him. He's a great kid.

1115
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: He's so he's so upbeaten, personable and fun. He's an

1116
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: explosive runner. He's a downhill runner. I'm I'm surprised it

1117
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: took that long for the big one. Let's look four

1118
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: games for that big one last week. You're going to

1119
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: see more of those. I think he's a fantastic back.

1120
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: I think he's in a division that has the best

1121
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: backs in football because we have Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor.

1122
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna fit right in Mark. You're gonna love Damian Pierce.

1123
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: I think I told that before the season, and I

1124
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: will feel that way. He's going to be a terrific,

1125
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: terrific Back to the Texans, what do you think the

1126
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: cross section is of Jaguar fans who are also Florida

1127
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: Gator fans. I think that's probably the biggest college following here,

1128
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: So there's a cross sections. There is a cross I

1129
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: think Jaguar fans are so dominant. Remember we don't have baseball,

1130
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: we don't have basketball, ja the Jags are what we

1131
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: have here. So the Jaguar fan, all the college fans

1132
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: moved to the Jaguars, whether you're the Gator fans of

1133
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: seven Oles, the Bulldogs, the Hurricanes. We've got a lot

1134
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: of colleges following here, but they're all Jaguars fans. But

1135
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: I would say there's a higher percentage of Gators than

1136
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: there are the other colleges, So there's some crossover. And

1137
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: again we all The last thing I can tell you

1138
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: this that the Gator jag combo fan wanted was Damien

1139
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: Pierce to wind up in the division because I think everybody, again, listen,

1140
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pile on Dan mull and he's gone,

1141
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: he got fired. The billion apiers in and they move on.

1142
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest headscratcher for everybody around here

1143
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: last year is how is Damian Pierce not getting the

1144
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: bull bore? It was. It almost became a running joke.

1145
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: It's some point and so so yeah, I think the

1146
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: Gator fans are rooting for Damian Pierce, probably fifteen games

1147
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: a year, maybe not those other two. Frank Frangie voiced

1148
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguars with us on Texans Radio. All right, you

1149
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: played the Colts, you beat them soundly, the Texans tied them.

1150
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: So let's talk Colts and Titans here the rest of

1151
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: the division. Frank, and right now, I gotta say the

1152
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: Jags aren't as good shape as anybody can imagine. But

1153
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: the Titans, they managed to win two games without scoring

1154
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: in the second half of either of them. What do

1155
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: you make of them? Let's start there in Tennessee. I've

1156
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: always thought the Titans do it right. Mark, I've told that.

1157
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: I said it to Mike Keith. They're playboy, play guy.

1158
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: I said it to you. We're all friends, we all

1159
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: talk a lot. I like Mike Rabel as a coach.

1160
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a toughness. I think he's tough. I

1161
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: think they play with a toughness. They're going to run

1162
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: the football. If Ryan Tannehill isn't playing well and he's

1163
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: been up and down, they're not going to be as good.

1164
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in some close games. But I think

1165
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: they generally two years ago they weren't good defensively, but

1166
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: for the most part, they're tough on defense. They run

1167
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: the ball, they're physical, they know how to win games.

1168
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing that stands out to

1169
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: me about the Titans more than anything else. Mark they

1170
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: know how to win. There's a toughness. I think the

1171
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: division is going to go through Tennessee. I think, as

1172
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: good as the Jaguars, or as much improvement as the

1173
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars feel like they have, and I think we all

1174
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: feel like they're an improved team, the division is going

1175
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: to go through Nationville. I've always felt that NFL that way.

1176
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: Still interesting, Well, I kind of agree with you, because

1177
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: if your defense is good enough in this league, and

1178
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't care who you're playing, where you can win

1179
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: without scoring in the second half, that's saying something in

1180
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, what about the cults as they try

1181
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: to right the ship. Here. They beat Kansas City, but man,

1182
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: it's so inconsistent so far. Another rough start for them.

1183
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: It always seems to happen that way in India. Yeah,

1184
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: and you know the Jaggs, we beat up twenty four

1185
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: nothing and it didn't look like it looked like a

1186
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: wounded Indianapolis team. Now they have some guys heard they

1187
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: didn't have Michael Pittman, and he is their receiving game.

1188
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean without him, they don't have great receivers. But

1189
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, who led the league rushing last year, I

1190
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: got about fifty yards yere. Now the Jaggs have a

1191
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: good defense most of the time. Matt Ryan, I think

1192
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: the problem with the Colts at some point they've got

1193
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: to find their quarterback. It's been you know, okay, it's

1194
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of weird if you look at their history Mark,

1195
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: the fact that they inherited Andrew Luck after being so

1196
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: good with Peyton almost seemed unfair. Right, They're they're good

1197
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: all those years. They have one bad year that happens

1198
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: to be the year Andrew Luck comes out, So it

1199
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: almost seemed unfair that this really good franchise has one

1200
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: bad year and they're getting Andrew luck. But then the

1201
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: luck caught up with them because he quits playing. And

1202
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: it's been a struggle. They've tried to bring in Philip Rivers,

1203
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: They've tried to bring in Carson Wentz, They've now brought

1204
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: in Matt Ryan. They're trying to find their guy. But

1205
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: you know this, you watch it with the Shawn, We're

1206
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: seeing it hopefully with Trevor. We see it around the league.

1207
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: You're seeing in Buffalo, you're seeing it in Kansas City.

1208
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: When you find that young quarterback, that's the key to

1209
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: being really good, and the Colts have had a tough

1210
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: time finding that young quarterback. I know the Jags just

1211
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: lost to Philadelphia, but there were a lot of turnovers involved.

1212
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: You have to get Philly some credit there, but also

1213
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: with the Jags may mistakes that leads to the victory

1214
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. How good are they are they really

1215
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: the best team in the league, as some people suggest

1216
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: right now, Well, they're the only undefeated team. I'll tell

1217
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: you that, so that there's something to be set for

1218
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: being the last one standing without a loss. They have

1219
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: a toughness. Jalen Hurts is a good player. As the

1220
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: game has changed. And again, of all my friends in

1221
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: the business, you've seen it up close and personal more

1222
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: than anybody else. Because Deshaun Watson was the poster child

1223
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: for the changing game. Josh Allen and Buffalo is the

1224
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: poster child. A lamar is quarterbacks that now can move.

1225
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: That rpo is real and you have to now account

1226
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: for all eleven offensive players, not ten, because the quarterbacks

1227
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: that sits in the pocket. And I think Philadelphia really

1228
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: manifests that they are really good offensively because of Jalen Hurts,

1229
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: and they got a J. Brown. The Titans couldn't do it.

1230
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: Of all the good things John Robinson's done in nationally,

1231
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: he's been a great GM. The inability to get the

1232
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: AJ Brown deal done. Mark his now really made the

1233
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: Eagles way better because they landed him, and so they

1234
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: have a good team. They have a tough team. The

1235
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Jags led fourteen to nothing. There was a huge play

1236
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: up fourteen to nothing. Driving in the second quarter. You

1237
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: go up to twenty one nothing. They were starting to boo.

1238
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: You might have you might have finished them off. Trevor

1239
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: on fourth down rolled right, he could have run forward.

1240
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: He could have passed the Tim Jones. But but the

1241
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: ball got knocked out of He actually inadvertially knocked the

1242
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: ball out of his own hand when his spy hit

1243
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: the football. At that point, the Eagles had three possessions

1244
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: mark they had gone punt, turnover, on downs and pick six. Well,

1245
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: the next three possessions they scored touchdowns. That one play

1246
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: turned the game. And then they got the momentum and

1247
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: it was loud and it was raining sideways and the

1248
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: jag there got off the deck after that. Still an

1249
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: eight point game at the m. But the Eagles are good.

1250
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: The Eagles are, They're They're they're the best team I've seen.

1251
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: Obviously it's only four games in, but look there, if

1252
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: you're the only undefeated team, you're pretty good. They're pretty good,

1253
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: and they'll be at NRG staatey of November third, when

1254
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: the Texans unveiled the battle red helmet. Frank Branchie boys

1255
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: the Jaguars with us a couple more quick ones for

1256
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: you here, Frank. Now we mentioned you cover the college

1257
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: game on your show. You're very well plugged in. What

1258
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: do you make of nil the craziness out there? I

1259
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: think the whole landscape here. This is a broad question,

1260
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: but it's insane with what we're seeing with these conferences,

1261
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Speaker 1: coaches getting fired instantly, the NFL looking like the more

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Speaker 1: gentle way of doing things with head coach tenure, and

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Speaker 1: I just tie it all into the nil We are

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Speaker 1: in a very different era of college athletics. Here. Here's

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Speaker 1: my take on the NILC analogy I use when we

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Speaker 1: talk about it a lot. Imagine this, Mark. Imagine all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the federal government said, Dad, we're getting

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Speaker 1: the speed limit wrong. Seventy five is not right, or

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Speaker 1: sixty thought, whatever it is. We got to change the

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Speaker 1: speed limit. Okay, everyone decides we got to change it.

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Speaker 1: So while we change it, we're taking all the signs down. Now.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put them back up when we figure out

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Speaker 1: the right way to do it, but for now, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take all the signs down. Mark, If you take

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Speaker 1: all the signs down, people are gonna drive one hundred

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Speaker 1: miles an hour because they're trying to get there. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: driving one hundred miles an hour until the signs go

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Speaker 1: back up. Well, that's what has happened with college football.

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Speaker 1: There's no rules. Nobody knows what they're allowed to do.

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Speaker 1: Every state legislature is making its rules for its colleges,

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Speaker 1: which is not the way to do it. They need

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Speaker 1: to be uniform. We all agree on that. But there's

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Speaker 1: no speed limit signs now, so everyone's driving one hundred

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Speaker 1: miles an hour just trying to get there faster than

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Speaker 1: the other guy. And until that gets fixed, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a mess. So Nil, we need some guidance

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Speaker 1: and some rules and regulations, and we don't have that now.

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Speaker 1: That's the big thing. As for all the coaches getting fired.

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Speaker 1: A conferenory alignment, bro, that's just about money. That's who

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Speaker 1: can which schools can make the most money, and which

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Speaker 1: conference is gonna make the most money, so they give

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Speaker 1: the most money to the schools so the schools can

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Speaker 1: build the bigger facilities and the bigger staff and recruit

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Speaker 1: better players and win more games. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're ever getting that under control. I think the conference

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Speaker 1: expansion is going to continue. It's a it's a money grab,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that money grab's ever going to change. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess now that it's a business, some business, if

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. And here we are, Frank, it's always

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to catch up. I really appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: and look forward to seeing you in North Florida on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Mark anytown, take care of buddy. We'll see you, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Sarah Frank, we will see you Sunday, if not sooner.

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Speaker 1: You never know. You run around at Jacksonville, you never

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01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: know who you're going to run into. I hope I

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Speaker 1: run into some of my former players down there in

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Speaker 1: Duval County. The stadium is right on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the river from where I not really taught school,

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: but I lived right in a house just the other

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Speaker 1: side of the football field. It was awesome. It was

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was so cool. I could walk to work.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you the number of times. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I should admit this, but in the off

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Speaker 1: season I didn't have I had classes at three classes,

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: but there are at lunch and we rotated classes. So

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Speaker 1: it was long story. But my classes always stay the

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Speaker 1: same at lunch. So I didn't have classes till lunch,

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Speaker 1: and I had but I had advice three at eight o'clock. Man,

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Speaker 1: I would roll out in sweats in a sweatshirt, walk

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Speaker 1: across football field, go to ten minute advisory, go back,

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Speaker 1: have breakfast with jack sometimes with my wife if she

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Speaker 1: wasn't in a meeting because her Bird office was two

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Speaker 1: houses down. So we remember Jacksonville very, very finally, and

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Speaker 1: it's right on their side of the stadium. So every

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Speaker 1: time we go there, it's always it's always a little emotional,

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Speaker 1: but it's even more emotional when the Texans get a

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Speaker 1: win in Jacksonville. And I've only seen one non win

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Speaker 1: and I was twenty seventeen. Oh my god, I just

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01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: wanted that game to be over. It's twenty seventeen. That

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01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: was a juggernaut. Are the Jags a juggernaut? Yeah, I

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: don't know that, but it's a really good football team.

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01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: They've gotten much much better. These last two drafts have

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Speaker 1: really built the foundation for Jacksonville and then gonna build

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Speaker 1: it for a long long time. All Right, we get back.

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Speaker 1: It's time for our Deep sunt Interview of the Week.

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01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson jumped into the hot seat next to Deep

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Speaker 1: City and this is gonna be on Deep You sit

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Speaker 1: to Steven Nelson Deep Flint Interview of the Week next

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Speaker 1: to Texas All Access. Texans All Access continues in a moment,

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Speaker 1: Hey Houston, this is key different, Baba Johns, and it's

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: that time again. It's football season. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: We've been a sponsor of the Texans for well from

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01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: the get go. I love the Texans. And to celebrate,

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: we had the Big Texans Pizza. It's an extra large

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Speaker 1: New York style pizza, two topping Brownie thirteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a lot of pizza. A great way to

1347
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: sit down and watch a football game, eat a pizza

1348
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Speaker 1: and go Texans. Better ingredients, better pizza, the best football.

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Speaker 1: Papa John's, Papa John's, Papa John's back to the show

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Speaker 1: that teach you plugged in with the Houston Texans. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Is what's the addition to Texans All Access. I'm your host,

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: John Harris Football and a side by reporter for your

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. But I was up in the booth call

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01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: in the Battle of the Piney Woods last at our

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: day Longside Randy mca boy and our next interview were

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Speaker 1: my good friend depcited. She was down on the sidelines,

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Speaker 1: did a way of a job during that game, and

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Speaker 1: she got a chance to the interview Tristan McCollum. She

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: interviewed Lovey Smith during the game. Awesome stuff. And now

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Speaker 1: she interviews another Texan, Stephen Nelson. I said this earlier,

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Speaker 1: but if you missed it. When Deep did this interview,

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Speaker 1: I was actually walking back to studio as she was

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Speaker 1: walking out of the studio and her eyes got big

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Speaker 1: and I just looked at her. I thought, Oh, what's

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Speaker 1: what's wrong? She goes that was so fun. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: see what fun sounds like. Depcity was Steven Nelson's Deep

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Speaker 1: S interview the week. It's a deep Side one one

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Speaker 1: presented by Xfinity. My guests this week, Steve Nelson, I

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Speaker 1: was just showing you a picture of my dog because

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Speaker 1: when we're in the locker room, you've got one of

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Speaker 1: those photographs with the scrolling pictures, and every time your

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Speaker 1: dog shows up on that, I'm like fixated on it

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01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: because your dog looks so much like my dog, just

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Speaker 1: the skinnier version. Yeah. But you've got like a golden doodle,

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Speaker 1: right yeahs and doodle old. He's too oh just like

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01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: my dog okay years old? Uh huh. We got him

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Speaker 1: right in the pandemic same yep, writing a pandemic so

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, hyper allergenic and all that good stuff. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just such a great dog to have,

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Speaker 1: But you're like an animal lover because I just saw

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Speaker 1: this feature that Tyler said Arthur, our videographer, put together.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic you on your farm. And the first thing

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Speaker 1: that I noticed was that you're wearing a shirt that

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Speaker 1: says Nelson Farms, So like, do you have swag for

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Speaker 1: your farm that is available somewhere? It's in the process

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Speaker 1: right now, you know. That was like a little sneak peek.

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Speaker 1: So I got hats and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, getting a website build and stuff like that

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Speaker 1: so people would be able to, you know, go check

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Speaker 1: it out. That's going to be so huge in Texas.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just got here this year. When did

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Speaker 1: you get the farm this year? Ashley? Yeah, okay, back

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Speaker 1: around January is so before I even were even signed here,

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Speaker 1: signed here, I was already invested in. So yeah, did

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Speaker 1: that lean your decision more to signing with the Texas

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Speaker 1: they wanted to move to Texas most definitely. I Mean

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Speaker 1: I've lived always, I guess, in the city away from

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Speaker 1: my team I was playing in, so to be playing

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Speaker 1: in somewhere closer to home is definitely a plus. All right,

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Speaker 1: So I guess the natural question is when did you

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Speaker 1: get into farming? Because you grew up in I grew

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Speaker 1: up in Georgia. You did you grow up on a

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Speaker 1: farm where you round farms, where you run animals. Yes

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Speaker 1: and no, so I kind of have the best of

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Speaker 1: both worlds. Like I grew up raised in Atlanta, Georgia, right.

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Speaker 1: So my family, though, like my grandparents lived in Middle Georgia,

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Speaker 1: like one of Robbins, a little town right outside of Making, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: So it's a little more rural than the city. So

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Speaker 1: I would always spend the summer times out that way,

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Speaker 1: and they had like a lot more you know, the

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Speaker 1: wildlife stuff, animals and you know, farmland. So I kind

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Speaker 1: of had the best of both worlds that in that aspect.

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Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I got into farming like

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Speaker 1: about two years ago. Okay, not physically, but like just

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Speaker 1: interested in doing search and stuff like that. Because two

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Speaker 1: years ago you were in pits. Pits two years ago. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my last year. That's like not a good place for farming. No,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I guess when all the pandemic stuff

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Speaker 1: kind of hit, that's when I really got into it,

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Speaker 1: you know, just trying to be you know, sustainable and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, because you know, it had

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Speaker 1: a lot of people scared, right right. Of course, food

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Speaker 1: shortages and all kind of crazy stuff. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess I will give a lot of credit to

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Speaker 1: a pandemic for You're like, I want to be able

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Speaker 1: to live off my own exactly. So what's on your

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Speaker 1: farm right now? Like describe it for people right now?

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Speaker 1: We have a garden, like a full garden. We have

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Speaker 1: anywhere from chickens to turkeys. We have peacocks, pigs, goats, sheep,

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Speaker 1: and a miniature horse. Oh yeah, the horse's name is Dusty. Dusty.

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Speaker 1: I saw that in this so cute. Anna build a

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Speaker 1: sheep Dusty the pony? You go. Yeah, And you have

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Speaker 1: chores on the farm or do you do those every day?

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Speaker 1: Do you have someone? Because I don't know how do

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Speaker 1: you balance that with football? So during my off days

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Speaker 1: and days I get to get back up there. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's because it's a little ride away. Of course, you're

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Speaker 1: not like right down the street. Yeah, so because I

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Speaker 1: live there in the city during the you know, while

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Speaker 1: I'm working and stuff like that. But my my wife

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Speaker 1: and my family they pretty much take care of like

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Speaker 1: that's you know that I guess their job while I'm

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Speaker 1: here so you know the chores, we can just run

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Speaker 1: through that real quick. Yes, what are the chores on

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: our firm? So when I'm there, like let's say on Mondays,

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Speaker 1: I wake up early, like seven, the roosters making noise,

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Speaker 1: so I'm up right, so I'm out there. First person

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Speaker 1: I feed it is probably the pigs. Make sure they're satisfied, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I'll let the chickens out, let them roam and

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Speaker 1: graze and all that stuff. I'll throw out some little

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Speaker 1: scratch or whatever you call it, like corn and stuff

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: for them. Then I'll feed the goats and I'll take

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Speaker 1: Dusty out. I'll take him out for his little own

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: little personal space. Dusty the pony, because he eats other

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: the other animals food, right is that? What that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know he gets a little rowdy, so cute, and

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: he gets a fender when you call him pony. He's

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: little though he supposed to be bigger than horse stocky, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I think he has feelings, so you know I

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 1: call him. He's vertically challenged, right, right, is what it is.

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Speaker 1: So I take him out, you know, give him his

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: own little area to eat, feed the goats and the

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Speaker 1: sheep and it's pretty much it. The peacocks pretty much

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: do their own thing. And then can you have peacocks?

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: Why they scare away reptiles is what I pay? Correct

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Speaker 1: snakes Okay if they're really I don't know, predator, snake

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: savvy or whatever. Okay, eight snakes. So we had like

1468
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: a couple of snakes previously before we got them. Sure,

1469
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean I live in the city and I've I've

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: had snakes in my backyard. I can't imagine on your

1471
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: farm what you have, Right, we had a couple, but

1472
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: ever since I got them, no snakes, no problems. What

1473
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 1: would you add next? Um? Next will probably be al packers.

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01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: We've been looking into getting some al packers. Actually it's

1475
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: those first, but they're kind of hard to find, right,

1476
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: They're like all over the country, Like you have to

1477
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: really do something look for an alpaca exactly why would

1478
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: just to have on the farm? Would you? What? What

1479
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: was it? What the packers are really good for? It

1480
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: was the purpose of an alpaca. They're they're great for

1481
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: like hurting like other animals and protecting against I guess predators,

1482
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: like you know you got coyotes, bobcasts. They're just like

1483
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: natural protectors, um you could share them. Make like, I

1484
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: feel like you need to have your own series and

1485
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: the just like an episode. I've been thinking about it.

1486
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: You should because there's a lot of stuff that goes

1487
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: into it. You know, it'd be great for the merch,

1488
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: for the sale, you know, thinking just all right, I'm

1489
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: with you on this. I like this idea. Yea. So

1490
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: how does that relate to football? I mean football is

1491
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: like such a tough physical sport. This seems so calming

1492
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: and relaxing. They go hand in hand, right, So you

1493
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: know footballs you know it's stressful. He can't be stressful.

1494
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's very demanding. So for me, my getaway

1495
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: is to be with an animal. Yeah, of course, peaceful.

1496
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, it just kind of relaxes me and just

1497
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: kind of draws me away a little bit. So I

1498
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: guess recharged in a way with Dino vast cornerbacks coach

1499
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: talk with us last week. I did not realize that

1500
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: you and him were together in Kansas City. So your

1501
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: rookie season, you were Dino. Now you're in year eight,

1502
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: you're with Dino again. Do you guys talk about what

1503
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: a jump you've made, because I imagine from your one

1504
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: to year eight, you're probably a completely different player. Yeah. Yeah,

1505
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: and you know I've grown a lot, you know, I matured,

1506
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: and it's just night and day. You know, like a

1507
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: conversation conversations we have compared to you know, when I

1508
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 1: was a rookie where I didn't really talk much. You know,

1509
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: Now I was like, we know, we have man to

1510
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: man conversations, you know about you know, just life, kids.

1511
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: You know, he just had a baby. He just had

1512
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: a baby, right, you know I got kids, and you know,

1513
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: just you know, just talk man to man type of

1514
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: thing from when I was I guess, you know, just

1515
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: coming in. So it's it's been fun working with him.

1516
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: I know everybody looks to you as someone that can

1517
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: be there for a guy like Derek Steinley who's a rookie.

1518
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: And I know that you at one point had said

1519
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: that you leaned on a guy Eric Berry in Kansas City.

1520
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: So what is that relationship like when you're so many

1521
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: years in and you're looking at the rookie and it's

1522
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: that I imagine that's such a tough position to sort

1523
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: of get your feet under. Yeah, man, I love I

1524
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: love taking on that challenge, you know, you know, helping

1525
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: him in any way possible, because, like you mentioned, like

1526
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 1: my mentor was kind of like Eric Berry or somebody

1527
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: that I you know, chose to lean on. You know,

1528
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: it's all about just finding guys when you come in

1529
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: and you kind of see that they do the right things.

1530
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, they do it the right way, and that's

1531
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like I guess with Sting is

1532
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: looking to me to do and help him with. But uh,

1533
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean he has everything, you know, tools wise to

1534
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: be successful, you know, smart, kid, humble. You know, it

1535
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: doesn't really say much, but is that how you were?

1536
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: You said you or quite as a rookie he's pretty quiet. Yeah,

1537
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: you know I was quiet. You know, I talk. I

1538
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: think I talked more than he did. But maybe it's

1539
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: I know sometimes you think it's personality too, but I

1540
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: imagine as a rookie it's yeah. I mean because you're

1541
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: coming in and when I came in, like this is

1542
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: like a young room that we have. We have a

1543
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: few vets, but we have right room. When I came

1544
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: into the NFL, we had a lot of veterans in

1545
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: like year eight, you're seven, year nine, you know, stuff

1546
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: like that. So I was like the youngest one yeah,

1547
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: but it's it's fun, you know, just watching him grow

1548
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: and helping him. As you've played over the years, you know,

1549
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: you've added a lot of tools to your skill set.

1550
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: I always hear about how what a versatile corner you are,

1551
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 1: and Dino said that, you know, you're not getting targeted

1552
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot, and I wonder is that a sign of

1553
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: respect at your position when guys not. I mean, how

1554
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: do you view it? Are you kind of like, hey,

1555
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: like tossing my way once in a while too. Yeah,

1556
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: you know it's kind of been like that. You know,

1557
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: for a majority of my career. You know, some seasons

1558
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: I'll get targeted more than in others, you know, for

1559
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: whatever reason. But I feel like that is a sign

1560
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: of respect. And you know, just naturally, you know, guys

1561
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: are going to target a younger player. You know, I

1562
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: try to, you know, move move the ball that way.

1563
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: But you know that doesn't allow me to relax at

1564
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: any of course, at any moment, because you know, a cornerback,

1565
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: you know, any you know mistake, you know, you can

1566
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: give up a big play. So uh, you know, just

1567
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: trying to you know, I see all those things, but

1568
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always going trying to work and you know,

1569
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: make sure I'm on point at all times. So you're

1570
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: ating Lee. You faced a lot of wide receivers. Is

1571
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: there one particular matchup that you really enjoyed a wide receiver?

1572
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: You really like going one on one against wide receiver.

1573
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 1: I really like going one on one against It's not

1574
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: it's not really any any particular guy. I would just say,

1575
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: like the guy whoever the guy is on the team. Oh, sure,

1576
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: that's whoever is getting the ball. That's that's who you

1577
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: want to go up against. All right. The guy on

1578
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: this team is Brandon Cooks, the guy that you know

1579
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: well from your days at Oregon State. So what were

1580
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: some of those battles like? And what's it like to

1581
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: be back with him again after knowing him in college.

1582
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: You guys are both so much further along in your

1583
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: careers now. Yeah, that matchups that's been years. I mean

1584
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: he's year nine, h um, year eight, and we we

1585
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: had I believe, like a year in college together. And

1586
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's been competitive from from the jump, from

1587
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: the first time I got to Oregon State and I

1588
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: played him a few times over the years, and it's

1589
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: always been you know, good matchups and like to ask

1590
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: you a question like being back. It kind of helped

1591
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: me get back to my game, you know what I mean,

1592
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: just you know, having a guy like that to just

1593
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: push me, you know, each and every day. It's been fun,

1594
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: all right, Steven. It's been fun getting to know you.

1595
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: And I'm looking for the merch because I like those shirts. Yes, yes,

1596
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you follow my Instagram. Okay, I do,

1597
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: I probably do. I got Nelson Farms Instagram too. Oh okay,

1598
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: so it's always been updated with stuff. I don't follow

1599
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: Nelson Farms. I'm gonna follow Nelson Farms and you can

1600
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: check out the video on Houston Texans dot com. Yes,

1601
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. It's also on YouTube. Steven, best of luck

1602
01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: with the rest of the season. Thanks so much for

1603
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: the time. Appreciate you. Man's got two instagrams, one for

1604
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: him and one for his farms. I love it. I

1605
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: love it. I mean, I am not of the I'm

1606
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: not an fa type. I'm not one to garden. I'm

1607
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: pretty handy around the house, but that's a little different

1608
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: than having a farm and doing those sort of things.

1609
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: I would love to cook sustainable stuff, you know. Thanks

1610
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: from far. I'd like to do that, but I'm not

1611
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: the farming type. Couldn't know. Steven Nelson absolutely is. Now

1612
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: another guy I know is not the farming type, but

1613
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: he is a very good podcast partner. And that is

1614
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: my podcast partner, Drew Doherty. It's in the lab next

1615
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access. More Texans Radio is

1616
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: on the way and we're back whisper breaking news. Coke

1617
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: zero Sugar might be the best coke ever. That's right, Jim.

1618
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: Coke zero Sugar is a must drive for any coke fans.

1619
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: So make sure Jim, Jim, We're Oh, yes, this tastes

1620
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: like the best cooke ever. To me. Your thoughts, Jen, Well,

1621
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: can I have a simp? Jen, We're in the middle

1622
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: of reporting the news. I need to try it first,

1623
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: Net to try it first to Texson's Radio. The drive continues.

1624
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: We got one final segment this this year, Texas All

1625
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: Access and it's time for in the Lab Drewe Doherty,

1626
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: John Harrison, that's me. Let's go owen three and one.

1627
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 1: Yuh gross, yep, they have shown signs. But you are

1628
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 1: what you are. You are what your record says you are.

1629
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: I think Bill Parcel said it. He probably got it

1630
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: from somebody else, but you popularize it. I believe you

1631
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: move on to Jacksonville and it doesn't look like the

1632
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: same old Jacksonville. It doesn't look like a getwell game

1633
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: that you've had against these guys save for twenty seventeen,

1634
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, because every other time you've played them since, oh,

1635
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: let's see the last game of the two thousand ten season.

1636
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. You've won every single game

1637
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: but the two and thirteen and the two and seventeen.

1638
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: You've swept them every single year since. And I don't

1639
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: know that that's it's It's not always been an easy

1640
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: game against these guys, but it's going to be more

1641
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 1: of a test, I think this year with this Texans

1642
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: team and this Jaguars team. One of the questions I

1643
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: asked Nikes Sarria this week because the Texans added Jayleen

1644
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 1: Petrie and Derek Stanley through the draft for second rounders.

1645
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: Add him through the draft changed the secondary for sure. Yeah,

1646
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: the defense all around. I don't think it's gotten there

1647
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: just yet, but it's definitely changed. The secondary. It's better.

1648
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: It's definitely this team as a whole is better. And

1649
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: last year, but your records not reflecting that for sure. Well,

1650
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: the Jaguars drafted the Travon Walker number one. Then they

1651
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: drafted Devin Lloyd the first round. So they got those

1652
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: two guys to add to their defense and it's made

1653
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: all the difference in the world now. They also added

1654
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: some other free agents, add Olakoon and linebacker that Fat

1655
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: Chakassi in the middle. They add Ray Robertson in twenty

1656
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: twenty one, I think it was. And he's always worried me.

1657
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: He's always worried me. And you put all those pieces

1658
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,919
Speaker 1: together now and you're like, wait a second, this front's

1659
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: pretty good. And Josh Allen is playing really well as

1660
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: a standouts the linebacker, Travan's playing really well as a

1661
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: stand abouts a linebacker. But the addition of Walker and

1662
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: Lloyd has given that front seven an absolute boot in

1663
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: the backside. Lloyd out of Utah the rookie yep. And

1664
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: they were a handful, not many, but they were a

1665
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: handful of people that I kind of respect. As far

1666
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: as draft prognosticate. You're one of them, but others that are,

1667
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: you know, they're not. Ye Who's that had him mocked

1668
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: to the Texans And some people probably thought, oh, they're

1669
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: they're not gonna take a linebacker, but he's justifying that thought,

1670
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: that idea that he would have fit in. And to

1671
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: be fair, this guy looks like he'd fit in and

1672
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: just about any defense at linebacker, and he would be

1673
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: a plus plus guy for any team. Coverage run stuffs,

1674
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: his ability to go find the football and take it away.

1675
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he, to me is what a Lovey Smith

1676
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,879
Speaker 1: blindbacker was. And look and said this about Nick Kissio,

1677
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: and I mean you knew, you know this and Lovey

1678
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: Smith and building this team. You couldn't fix everything in

1679
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: one year. I mean, it would have been been awesome

1680
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: if you'd have had Kenyan Green last year that had

1681
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: picked number fifteen, when you moved around, when you had

1682
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: picked thirteen, you could have gotten Devin Lloyd. But you

1683
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: know you don't have thirty picks. You know, you don't

1684
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: have all those picks. So the Jaguars did have some

1685
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: of those picks, some of the moves that they were

1686
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: able to make over the last few years, and it

1687
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: paid off getting a guy like Devin Lloyd. And when

1688
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: I saw them draft Floyd at the I mean, I

1689
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: just it's like, man, I knew of anything with Lloyd

1690
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: and Walker. The athleticism was gonna go up up up,

1691
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: for sure, right, and it's really been that and then some.

1692
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: I mean, they have been so good against the ground,

1693
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: and the Eagles got them a little bit. But the

1694
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: Eagles offenses, I mean, they can do so many different

1695
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: things with that Eagles offense. So it's imperative this offensive,

1696
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 1: this offensive front's gonna get hit in the face. They're

1697
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: gonna be some one on one battles they're not gonna win.

1698
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: This is gonna have to be If the Texas are

1699
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: gonna want to run the football and running effectively, there's

1700
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to be some big boy blocking up front

1701
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: against this front. It is a really really good front. Now,

1702
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: fat Zikasi is a little banged up, and he's a

1703
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: big literally and figuratively. He's a big key for that

1704
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: front for what they're able to do. If it's one

1705
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: guy out of there, they still have got depth. The

1706
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: Von Hamilton has become a really solid player. That front

1707
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: really concerns me. If you contain that front, if you

1708
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: get some movement in the run game and you're not

1709
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: allowing them to become Saxonville, and you're giving David some

1710
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: protection I do think he can throw it. I do

1711
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: think you can throw it on him, but you gotta

1712
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 1: be able to get the ball off the way Josh

1713
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: Allen and Walker Rush. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna

1714
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: be really, really tough. This is gonna be a tough

1715
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: chore against a really athletic The front seven is really

1716
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: different from what it was last year. Fourteen carries hundred

1717
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: twenty thirty yards for Damien Pierce. He has the seventy

1718
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: five yard or so naturally there's some idea out there like, oh,

1719
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: you take away the seventy five yard or only got

1720
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: four point three yards carry. Well, you know what you

1721
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: got last year as a team, you get three point

1722
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: four yards carry. So he was still doing his job.

1723
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: You'll take four point three per That's still a decent

1724
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: job for a running back. But he did get the

1725
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: seventy five yarder, so that's that's important to remember. He's

1726
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: a home run hitter. I didn't know for sure whether

1727
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: he was a home run hitter, and I thought when

1728
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: he hit the whole, I guess I've been conditioned around

1729
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 1: here lately to think, oh this is nice. It's a

1730
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: big game. They'll bring it down around the eighteen nineteen

1731
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: yard line. Now he closed it out, So now you

1732
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: have to worry about him being a home run hitter

1733
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: in addition to knowing that he is a punisher, in

1734
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: addition to on top of that, knowing that he can spin,

1735
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: move out of stuff, and he's shifty. So you really

1736
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: got a lot to worry and concern yourself about if

1737
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: you're trying to tackle Damian Pierce. And I think if

1738
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: the ball gets placed a little differently in the passing game,

1739
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: you're not seeing a stat line of six catches eight yards,

1740
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: You're seeing a stat line of that line six catches

1741
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: forty five fifty yards. He's gonna he's gonna break some

1742
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: stuff and do some real positives in the in the

1743
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: in the past game, because we've seen him do it.

1744
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: You know, he's had like one catch for eight yards.

1745
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: You'll take that. You'll take that sort of production. You

1746
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: want to see. The strangest comparison that I could make

1747
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: between a former Texan and Damian Pierce. We sad have

1748
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien here. We'll talk about the running game, and

1749
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: the one thing he would always say is, well, you know,

1750
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Deshawn's gonna get forty or forty five. It's that forty

1751
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: to forty five yards that Shaan would always kind of

1752
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: pick up in the run game. That if Damian Pierce

1753
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: could pick that up in the passing year. Yeah, yeah,

1754
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty similar and it helps you from that perspective.

1755
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: Six for eight's the weirdest number I've ever seen. I mean,

1756
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: just completely strange six receptions. I mean, does that over

1757
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: seventeen games season. That's one hundred two catches. So he's

1758
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna have one hundred and two catches for like one

1759
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards. I mean, I don't think so.

1760
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: But the point being, he can't catch it, and I

1761
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: think that's one of the ways that you can get

1762
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: him out there. I don't feel for safeties for other

1763
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: teams because they're on other teams, but I kind of

1764
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: feel for him because now you don't really know, you

1765
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: don't really know exactly how to approach him, because if

1766
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: you go over there with some weak sauce, like you know,

1767
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wrap him up around the legs and

1768
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: that's it. He can't step out of that, or he

1769
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: might just bury you with with a straight arm. If

1770
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 1: you go over there thinking, well, I'm just gonna hit

1771
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: him with everything I got. You might bounce off him,

1772
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, like a super Bowl and like bang, and

1773
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: then you're you're done. So the process wind up on

1774
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: a was a coach thirty go right Twitter idea. You're

1775
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna end up on a video and you're gonna look

1776
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: like a pinball like bang bang, and you don't want that.

1777
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: So the key is to get is to get him

1778
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: into space. And on that seventy five yard run, there

1779
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 1: were great blocks by Nico oj I mean Oven's line.

1780
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: Obviously Troy Harris didn't hit Derwin James just loved it.

1781
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: But then there was a safety that came over and

1782
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: I can't remember if his adderlie, I can't remember who was,

1783
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: but he came over with maybe some of the weakest

1784
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 1: sauce ever, and Damien had room and so Damian was like,

1785
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And Dami's like, I'm just

1786
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: hitting it, and that guy was like and you kind

1787
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: of dove and forget it. He wasn't eating even get close.

1788
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: So safeties are really in a world hurt. But you've

1789
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: got to get to that third level. You've got to

1790
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: be able to against these guys Jacksonville. You got to

1791
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: occupy the front. I hope you can get a hat

1792
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: on Lloyd and Olakoon and that springs him, That springs

1793
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: him up the field. So they're gonna have to come

1794
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: up with some wrinkles. And the thing about it, that

1795
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: play really was old school toss out of the eye,

1796
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: but the way they executed was just absolutely perfect. Yeah,

1797
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: the Texans non offensive lineman nailed, na nailed to steal

1798
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 1: from Apollo, creed their blocks. Hairston just oh, he hammered,

1799
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 1: shook his guy. O. J. Howard, I did a tell

1800
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: straight around this drew that we'll see letter this week.

1801
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: It's Bill Collins. I don't I'll give you one of

1802
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: the I'm gonna give one other. Brandon Cooks, Yes, thank you.

1803
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is the far outside X receiver on the

1804
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: far side of the field. You can see about ten

1805
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: to fifteen yards into his sprint down field. He literally

1806
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: puts his head down like you wouldn't try. He puts

1807
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: his head down and just starts booking. Yea to make

1808
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: sure that J. C. Jackson doesn't get there to you know,

1809
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: hit his shoe or knock him out. At the two

1810
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Brandon shooting him just enough, and I mean sprinted all

1811
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: the way down the field. That's the kind of thing

1812
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: that you you want to see from a captain. Of

1813
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: the many coaches who would appreciate that block, Mike Leach,

1814
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: the old Texas tech head coach down missb State, would

1815
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: certainly appreciate that block because he was asked about his

1816
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers blocking back when I was there and late

1817
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: late auts, and he said, yeah, blocking is important. Don't

1818
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: necessarily need to decleade a guy every single time. It's

1819
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: more just about just being in between the tackler and

1820
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: the back carrier. Just be a shield. That's more more

1821
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 1: important than anything. You just don't want your guy to

1822
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: make the tackle right, And that's what Brandon Cooks did. Yeah,

1823
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: I think Mike Leach would like it. I know I

1824
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: liked it. I loved it. It was great. And when

1825
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: I saw it back on Tellustrator, I knew Brandon had

1826
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: run down there, but I didn't while you're watching the play,

1827
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 1: and of course at our angle, I'm watched the line

1828
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: of screamage and that play is going away from me,

1829
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: so I couldn't really see it. But then when I

1830
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: went back and I watched it on film and I

1831
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: had the All twenty two. I'm like, man, look at Brandon,

1832
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 1: He's flying. And Nicko Saro told us that was the

1833
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: fastest speed Brandon recorded on the day. Was that one?

1834
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: No other route? And it was that? Yeah, you know,

1835
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: I think that's the GPS was they put at one

1836
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: point on the big board at the stadium. Uh, they

1837
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: put the top three speeds of the day, and I

1838
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: think Nico was one, probably on that catch and then

1839
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: Damien on his deep run, and Cooks was right below Damien,

1840
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: And I guess and that's what that's from. Yeah, that's

1841
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was from that play. Yeah, absolutely, and Nico, man,

1842
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: what a block he had. Boy, that was good. I'm

1843
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: talking to Nico. I'm playing Jingo with Nico this week.

1844
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 1: He's also the pregame player interview for the Mania Show.

1845
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: So that'll be fun. That'll be good, and we will

1846
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: discuss speed a man, amongst many other things. But here's

1847
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: a little tidbit, a little off the field slow burn

1848
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: that you're not going to see any time in the

1849
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: next week, month or two. But down the line, keep

1850
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: your eyes peeled for a pretty darn big change. That's

1851
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: what we call a t shop to stick around and

1852
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: see what that change is all about. A big thanks

1853
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 1: to Drew, to Mark, to DP, the Frank Frangie, to

1854
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson and to Nick Cassario. We'll seem r everybody

1855
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:25,439
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