Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why oh one?
Speaker 1: Look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding
Speaker 1: lost culture race is calling and I've already had it
Speaker 1: with Bow and I've had it a copa. I've had
Speaker 1: it with him today. Why are you forgetting wires? I
Speaker 1: normally I'm on top of my wires and my chords.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what, We don't have to
Speaker 1: get into it everything. There's there's a lot of set
Speaker 1: up and we're doing this in a very unusual way already.
Speaker 1: But I T L D R. Boone forgot his charger
Speaker 1: to his computer and now his computer is dead as
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe, and we can barely even do the podcast tonight.
Speaker 1: We had to we had to figure out how to
Speaker 1: use a zoom That's okay, zoom interface, we should the
Speaker 1: zoom interface we're using and listen, that's us both growing
Speaker 1: and changing and learning new ways to record, learning new ways.
Speaker 1: And we have to apologize to you, the listener, the reader.
Speaker 1: We were a little buzzed. That's fine, and that's fine, um,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to the chaos. That was the
Speaker 1: first part of our two part two hundredth episodes Spectacular,
Speaker 1: where we count down the top two hundred culture moments
Speaker 1: in culture history. We Matt made us a cocktail um which,
Speaker 1: in this loose definition is a red Bull and vodka.
Speaker 1: I did. I literally kept sort of referring to it
Speaker 1: as a cocktail. It was a Red Bull vodka. But
Speaker 1: here's the tail. I'm yeah. I leaned on it for
Speaker 1: us and we only finished about half of those drinks
Speaker 1: and we were flippy FILOPPI yeah loosao. I felt. Really
Speaker 1: you can listen back to it. You have the audio.
Speaker 1: We're slurring through the episode, the pacing. We just have
Speaker 1: to quickly say, Matt and I really thought we could
Speaker 1: count down all two hundred things in under two hours.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that that is something that we thought
Speaker 1: was logistically feasible, us saying two hundred things, all giving
Speaker 1: them like some sort of cultural do like speaking about
Speaker 1: them a little bit, and getting to the end. No way,
Speaker 1: No way. This just shows that we have a lot
Speaker 1: to learn about podcasting. We have so much to learn,
Speaker 1: and we thank you for being there with us on
Speaker 1: the way to grow, on the way to grow, On
Speaker 1: the way to grow. And if this episode were to
Speaker 1: have a title, it would be called on the Way
Speaker 1: to should we call this episode this two part episode
Speaker 1: um two D spectacular? Yes, just those two words two
Speaker 1: hundred spectacular part one in part two two? Well? Or
Speaker 1: should we say? And I always feel it's good to
Speaker 1: say in the title what the episode is. So maybe
Speaker 1: it's top two hundred moments of culture spectacular. Yes, I
Speaker 1: like that, or two hundred the two hundred colon the
Speaker 1: two hundred greatest moments in culture parentheses our two hundred episode.
Speaker 1: I love that, And I really am in no position
Speaker 1: to push back on whatever you propose, I I do,
Speaker 1: I really do. I love that. So it's two hundred
Speaker 1: colon The top two hundred moments in culture history. Parentheses
Speaker 1: are two hundred of part one, and we have we
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we need the word spectacular in There are
Speaker 1: two D episodes spectacular part one. Should it be this
Speaker 1: in parentheses? Hear me out in caps spectacular colon two
Speaker 1: hundred colon The top two hundred moments in pop culture
Speaker 1: history parentheses are two hundred episode Part one, Part one.
Speaker 1: So the very like, it's very like themed to the
Speaker 1: to the number two hundred. The double colon is the
Speaker 1: only thing that's tripping me up. It is not done.
Speaker 1: I think it's spectacular colon and then what do you say,
Speaker 1: m dash the top two hundred moments in culture history
Speaker 1: parentheses are two hundred spectacular part one close parentheses. Okay, yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: that's really good epic. That's like amazing movie. It's yes,
Speaker 1: it gives me like Disney Vines where it's now the
Speaker 1: titles are just in word and it's an adjective like
Speaker 1: Tangled Frozen. You know, well, yes, it's I feel that
Speaker 1: when I say it's like a Basil Erman movie, I
Speaker 1: actually immediately understand that he's sort of called many of
Speaker 1: his movies by like one word or two words, Rouge Australia.
Speaker 1: What I mean is it has the grand of a
Speaker 1: Bosler movie. It totally it stylistically says Basil Erman to me.
Speaker 1: And that's all I really want. Like in Romeo and Juliet,
Speaker 1: the and is plus and that's how you know it's
Speaker 1: huge and that's how that that's his little signature. And
Speaker 1: mulan Rouge has an exclamation point. Yes in Australia is
Speaker 1: in like big white letter. It's amazing. It's an amazing
Speaker 1: fun And then, um, what else grape Gatsby has Carrie
Speaker 1: Mulligan Mulligan special. I never, I never, I never saw it.
Speaker 1: You know what's unfortunate for Carrie Mulligan what she didn't
Speaker 1: make the list? She didn't she did not make the list.
Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting about Carrie Mulligan. I sometimes
Speaker 1: think and feel that you used to have as your
Speaker 1: Twitter bio. I am as pretty as Carrie Mulligan. Please
Speaker 1: can firm you want to know something? It's still my
Speaker 1: Tinder bio and I'm still on Tinder. Isn't that like
Speaker 1: you're still on the very straight tender. I would say
Speaker 1: it's pretty gay, is it? Well, I guess I just
Speaker 1: mean like to me, like, yeah, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: through the male gaze. It's like very much like a
Speaker 1: breeding ground for like that straight guy who has a
Speaker 1: picture at Machu Pichu. Yes, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: at Machu Pichu down Boots. It's actually really culture number
Speaker 1: twenty the gays down Boots. Um. You know it's funny
Speaker 1: you get you get all types there. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: imagin types of queers. International. Really it's really an international site. Um.
Speaker 1: And speaking of international international, we have for you a
Speaker 1: list not just of the top one hundred best things
Speaker 1: in pop culture. But it's two hundred because this is
Speaker 1: famously as you may have in for our two episode
Speaker 1: or a second part of what is a two episode
Speaker 1: spectacular celebration. And today what do we have today? We
Speaker 1: have the top one moments in culture history. So we
Speaker 1: we finished our first half of this. Number one oh
Speaker 1: one was, of course Furbies. Yeah, Furbies. We touched on
Speaker 1: how furbies were a real toy that sort of stormed
Speaker 1: the moment and definitely took center stage. And those girls
Speaker 1: were absolutely in stores, but then they were as soon
Speaker 1: as they were in, they were gone because they were
Speaker 1: selling like hotcakes. And we tease this at the end
Speaker 1: of the last episode, the last the first half of this,
Speaker 1: we said, number one is going to blow your socks off,
Speaker 1: and you will have no choice but to agree No.
Speaker 1: Number one is culture and you're going to have to
Speaker 1: agree on that one. You're gonna have to concur on
Speaker 1: that one. You're gonna have to um not in approval
Speaker 1: on that one. Yes, you're gonna have to coastline and
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, And so what do you say we
Speaker 1: get keep going with our top one hundred. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I can't believe this unbelievable Top one hundred moments of culture. Yes, yes, okay, Matt,
Speaker 1: let's kick it off with number one. Alright, Number one
Speaker 1: hundred is Tia and Tamara Maori. We all remember these twins,
Speaker 1: sister sisters, the sister sisters themselves. I got my own mind,
Speaker 1: do my own stuff in my own time. Oh come on.
Speaker 1: And also, not only were Tia and Tamara amazing, but
Speaker 1: this also brought to us the Harry Harry who you know,
Speaker 1: some people they knew prior to this. This is really
Speaker 1: the culture that influenced her. Us to Jack. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: I mean Jack. You got to see her full glory
Speaker 1: and she built up the goodwill and her time, and
Speaker 1: sister sister, I feel like for our generation, for us,
Speaker 1: you know, stupid millennials. But now we get to follow
Speaker 1: her on Twitter and see all of her tweets and
Speaker 1: they're so funny. And but you think you can textualize
Speaker 1: that against Jack Harry on sister sister, I feel that,
Speaker 1: And you know, actually, what I'm realizing is that Tia
Speaker 1: and Tamara are number one hundred and culture. Really, Jack
Speaker 1: Harry actually deserves her spot here. So we're actually gonna
Speaker 1: call it this rule number one hundred sister sister, moment moment, sorry,
Speaker 1: not rule. This is famously something else moment number one sister, Sister,
Speaker 1: It's not just and tomorrow, although we love tomorrow on
Speaker 1: the road to marry on the rail. Alright, So this
Speaker 1: is an example of us taking too long on one
Speaker 1: item of culture and we have to keep going. So
Speaker 1: Number bowen is Briefe by Taylor Swift amazing breath Now,
Speaker 1: can you elaborate on what makes the song so amazing? Well,
Speaker 1: this song is amazing because it's really it's just guitar.
Speaker 1: There might be some percussion on it, but it's her.
Speaker 1: It's a duet with Colby Kela on the beautiful song
Speaker 1: about breaking up, growing from the breakup, growing from separation.
Speaker 1: It's a gorgeous song. I really love it from Fearless
Speaker 1: and from Fearless arguably her best album. Well that's an
Speaker 1: argument that we could have, but you know, it's her
Speaker 1: one of two albums that is one best album at
Speaker 1: best at boubum. The Grammys to sort of assign value
Speaker 1: on award is very kind of capitalist of you. Anyway,
Speaker 1: moving on to number it is of course Breathe too,
Speaker 1: am by An analyx now if I might, I just
Speaker 1: didn't take the floor here. This song was good before
Speaker 1: the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy, and then it
Speaker 1: became culture because of the Code Black episode of Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. When Mr Kyle Chandler first said,
Speaker 1: exploded ass all over that hospital, which at the time
Speaker 1: was called Seattle Grace has now got other names. But honey,
Speaker 1: when Miss Meredith Gray had to fly all the way
Speaker 1: back because of the explosion of Miss Chandler, holy hell.
Speaker 1: And you know the soundtrack of that moment was an
Speaker 1: analyc singing breath Breathe, just breathe amazing. Okay, Matt's what's
Speaker 1: number number is? Of course Breathe by Faith Hill. I mean,
Speaker 1: incredible song, the number one Breathe. It's it edged out
Speaker 1: in and now like and Taylor Swift by a Hair.
Speaker 1: I would say this song Breathe is It's really iconic
Speaker 1: because it's got that sort of thing a song does
Speaker 1: where it starts with the same lyric as it ends with.
Speaker 1: If you gets me that the course is explosive. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite kind of country song where she just lets
Speaker 1: it go in there. Hard song to sing secretly, hard
Speaker 1: song to because of the suppossed that part. It's like
Speaker 1: a transition into your head voice from like a belt.
Speaker 1: Also not for nothing, but Faith Hill epic in that
Speaker 1: video which she's in the dress kind of dancing around
Speaker 1: the like, um, what's it like? The like is it
Speaker 1: a field? It's not a field, it's like a It's like, um,
Speaker 1: what the hell is that's? It's like a stone guard
Speaker 1: a stone field? Is that what they? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but miss faith Hill she was. She knew because it
Speaker 1: was on her call sheet, all right, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: Was it the top Breathe or Breathe by Michelle Branch
Speaker 1: and one and only ron Com movie trailer song. It's
Speaker 1: unfortunately the best brief. We we spoke too soon. If
Speaker 1: I just bread fill the space between, oh know, everything
Speaker 1: is all right? Wow. Hotel Paper a huge record. She
Speaker 1: had many huge records, such as The Spirit Room, such
Speaker 1: as you know Hotel Paper. Hotel Paper was a room
Speaker 1: for squares her or was that John May the male
Speaker 1: Michelle Brand? I get people with guitars mixed up. Um,
Speaker 1: but yes, she was iconic, and we just really quickly
Speaker 1: talk about Michelle Branch wrote The Spirit Room when she
Speaker 1: was seventeen, like come on, Billie Eilish, come on Lord vibes,
Speaker 1: come on Lord vibe, come on, Lord Mind, come on,
Speaker 1: Lord Mind. Thank you. I've mind more like Lord Mind,
Speaker 1: which you need to write an amazing I'll met seventeen
Speaker 1: Michelle Branch breathe one amazing song. Another song where you
Speaker 1: just belt and then you gotta pull back. Oh, is
Speaker 1: it incredible? And also we don't hear enough covers of this.
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson, I'm looking at you, Kelly Oki all right,
Speaker 1: and so we're moving on to number ninety five. Talked
Speaker 1: about an amazing young woman who had an impact on
Speaker 1: the culture. It's Taylor Momson Ingrinch. Oh, she was the
Speaker 1: most amazing Cindy Lou. And to think of what you
Speaker 1: are doing when you are assigned the role of Cindy Lhu,
Speaker 1: an iconic woman in culture, and to bring her to
Speaker 1: the screen and do her just justice. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: giving a standing ovation. I'm giving a standing ovation. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Hayte the Hill, she ended up singing a faith
Speaker 1: Hill song where she Christmas written by Ms. Mariah, which
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers wastes no time in teaching the children about
Speaker 1: that fact. I always teach the kids that whenever they
Speaker 1: come to one of my performances, I make sure to
Speaker 1: tell them. You know, Mariah Carey actually she wrote where
Speaker 1: are You Christmas? And Faith Hill sang it, and then
Speaker 1: Taylor Momson, I'm sorry, but acted it because she acted
Speaker 1: the hell out of this role. She acted the hell
Speaker 1: out of this role. When Cindy l who is supposed
Speaker 1: to be sad, you are sad. And then she grew
Speaker 1: up to play a mean teenager in Gossip Girl. Wow,
Speaker 1: she really she was a versatile one. And then of
Speaker 1: course she was in the band pretty Reckless, Pretty Reckless.
Speaker 1: Never forget a Perez Hilton favorite. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: two thou seven two eight, What a time. It was
Speaker 1: Taylor Momson's peak and we sent her a lot of Now,
Speaker 1: speaking of this film, number ninety four is where are
Speaker 1: You Christmas? From the film which we have discussed, which
Speaker 1: we have discussed, well, we should actually make the distinction.
Speaker 1: Grinch is the title of the animated version of it.
Speaker 1: It's my title, It's Matts title. But the full title
Speaker 1: of the Jim Carey Classic, Jim Carrey, Christine Baranski Classic,
Speaker 1: Taylor Momson classic is how the grin stool Christmas, right,
Speaker 1: I just shortened it from my own purposes to um.
Speaker 1: But this song is amazing. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: about a young girl sort of confronting the fact that
Speaker 1: as she gets older, the meaning of Christmas changes, and
Speaker 1: sort of as a comparison to life and how as
Speaker 1: you get older, you know things, they don't lose their meaning,
Speaker 1: but they change their meaning. And it's about the unknown
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen as you grow older. If
Speaker 1: Christmas changes, will I change to? What else will change?
Speaker 1: A beautiful song, a beautiful sentiment, and only the number
Speaker 1: one songwriter Mariah Carey could have written it. Absolutely, And
Speaker 1: you know it's a beautiful, gorgeous lyric. What my life
Speaker 1: is changing, I'm rearranging, rearranging amazing. You see it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see it? Thank you. Now let's go to ninety three.
Speaker 1: Number ninety three is Jim Carrey as Grinch and the
Speaker 1: film Grinch. This performance was culture Christmas, culture christ this culture.
Speaker 1: He was giving you everything. He was giving you slapstick,
Speaker 1: he was giving you some voice comedy. Absolutely, he was
Speaker 1: giving you hours in the makeup chair, painful hours in
Speaker 1: the makeup chair. And I'm sorry, but if Meryl Streep
Speaker 1: is going to get nominated for as many Oscars as
Speaker 1: she has. Where is Jim Carrey's nomination for Grinch? And
Speaker 1: I'm being sort of you know, your come on, you know,
Speaker 1: silly about this, but also in a real way, where
Speaker 1: is even one Oscar nomination for Jim are and his
Speaker 1: many solid performance sexism in Hollywood? I think it's sexism
Speaker 1: towards green Bean esque comedic actors, and it has to
Speaker 1: stop right now, say it's sexism towards white male actors.
Speaker 1: It's sexism towards white male actors. To have Jim Carrey
Speaker 1: go nomination list. He deserved a nomination for a tune
Speaker 1: of Sunshine. I want to say he deserved nominations for
Speaker 1: the following films Eternal Sunshine, The Seminal Grin, the Mask,
Speaker 1: No Liar, Liar, Okay, Truman, Yes he should have at
Speaker 1: least four Thank you queen okay for Truman Show, for
Speaker 1: the queers to love Truman Show. That's how you know
Speaker 1: it's a real work, real piece of work. This was
Speaker 1: a real work. Now we have the next one here,
Speaker 1: and this is one of my favorite rules of all.
Speaker 1: Number ninety two, The birth of Yang Important moment this.
Speaker 1: I wanted to take this moment off the left, and
Speaker 1: I said, you have to leave it on because the
Speaker 1: birth of bowen Yang was a moment in culture. We
Speaker 1: would not have both. Can everyone that's listening right now
Speaker 1: understand you you don't the fact that you are given
Speaker 1: bo Yang and you have to understand that and stop
Speaker 1: being so stupid because the bow and Yang is a
Speaker 1: gift in this world and he has come to this
Speaker 1: amazing place and he's going very far, and the birth
Speaker 1: of bow and Yang is a moment in culture. And
Speaker 1: you sitting at home understand that your life would be
Speaker 1: completely different without and you would be listening to this
Speaker 1: right now. No, you would be listening to this. And
Speaker 1: you all know that Matt Rodgers is the joy is
Speaker 1: not my son. And all this, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to this post, this brings us culture number. Rule of
Speaker 1: culture number. That don't impress me much. What was this?
Speaker 1: This was a Shia Twains I'm not I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: no Twain song. I got her visually mixed up with
Speaker 1: faith um and I'm so sorry. This also kind of
Speaker 1: took This video also took place kind of like in
Speaker 1: the desert. Yes, Trug remember and the Leopard, but I
Speaker 1: mean Shnaia. We're not talking about Shania now, because Shania
Speaker 1: now is a little is a little wild. But we're
Speaker 1: talking about the song that don't impress them me much,
Speaker 1: or the moment that don't impress them You'll notice that
Speaker 1: I wrote here that don't impress much. I didn't say
Speaker 1: a song. I didn't necessary necessarily say a video. I
Speaker 1: said that don't impress me much. And that's because that
Speaker 1: don't impress on me much. I believe it's a movement
Speaker 1: beyond just the song I think that don't impress them
Speaker 1: me much became something like I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: You know it's actually rot a culture Number thirteen that
Speaker 1: don't impress on me much is the original I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And it's such an amazing time to
Speaker 1: announce bone and I will be doing a show called
Speaker 1: that don't impress on Me much, and it will not happen.
Speaker 1: We're not doing it. We're not doing especially, not a thing. Um.
Speaker 1: I gotta say. The reason I love that don't impress
Speaker 1: them me much is it's an answer. So many times
Speaker 1: in life people are put like putting forth questions yes,
Speaker 1: and it puts the onus on you to come up
Speaker 1: with the answer. But the question is so your Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt and the answer that don't impress me, and it's
Speaker 1: it actually is more about It says more about you
Speaker 1: than it does about the other person. Because this other
Speaker 1: person could be doing something impressive. It just don't impressive.
Speaker 1: And so honestly, whenever I see anyone stepping up to
Speaker 1: me and trying to give me grief, I just say,
Speaker 1: I look at them in the eyes, I maybe pat
Speaker 1: them on the shoulder, and I say that don't impress them.
Speaker 1: And you should try it at home. You try it
Speaker 1: next time your parents are getting at you. Try it
Speaker 1: next time your boyfriend hasn't cleaned the dishes, or maybe
Speaker 1: if he does clean the dishes, just say that don't
Speaker 1: impress on me much. It's the original. I don't think
Speaker 1: it is. Move on to number ninety, which is Obama election.
Speaker 1: Who could down? Who could forget? But there were two, right, well,
Speaker 1: there was two Obama elections. And I think that that
Speaker 1: this moment a moment of culture. Number ninety Obama election
Speaker 1: is when you really understand his election as as less
Speaker 1: of a moment and as a singular cultural shift and
Speaker 1: event I see you know what I mean. I just
Speaker 1: feel that Barack Obama is an amazing man and culture
Speaker 1: and he had to be on the list. You have
Speaker 1: to be on the list. So when you say Obama
Speaker 1: Obama election, you mean the election and re election of Obama. Yes,
Speaker 1: the election into the cultural consciousness of Obama. Yes. Um,
Speaker 1: what I'm really saying is the two election that I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, the moment when he got I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't beat that. No. Do you remember where you were?
Speaker 1: I was in the East Village. I remember people in
Speaker 1: New York City running out into the streets cheering, and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is beautiful. And I had just
Speaker 1: moved there, like you. I'm as an Union Square and
Speaker 1: I remember being so elated that he was elected. And
Speaker 1: I remember running down the halls and it was n
Speaker 1: y U. So everyone was heading to Union Square in
Speaker 1: Square and there were these like every other like dorm room.
Speaker 1: There was like one conservative kid like sitting in his
Speaker 1: bedroom like crying, like because his parents had obviously scared
Speaker 1: the daylights out of him that like if Obama got elected,
Speaker 1: they were gonna lose other money or whatever. Well, it's
Speaker 1: wonderful that it was so funny the pendulum swung the
Speaker 1: other way in such a crazy destructive manner. No, eight
Speaker 1: years later, Well, here's the thing. If you remember how
Speaker 1: good you felt when that happened, put that energy towards November.
Speaker 1: Biden to the White House. Joe, we love Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: I said. I said to myself. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what words I don't want to hear anymore. We
Speaker 1: need to restore the soul of America. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is the most garbage, like nothing of a like placation
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. This is a battle for the soul
Speaker 1: of America. But which is another way of saying to
Speaker 1: me that like, uh, this is not our country, right that,
Speaker 1: like anytime something terrible happens when it comes to Trump
Speaker 1: and or racism or both, it's like this isn't our kind.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is our country. And you're saying
Speaker 1: that we're restoring the soul of America is like kind
Speaker 1: of not to use this word. It is like that's
Speaker 1: a similar type of gas line where you're like this,
Speaker 1: this is not the America. I know that we're better
Speaker 1: than this. It's like maybe we're not. Like, first of all,
Speaker 1: let's break it down into three parts, right, restore. The
Speaker 1: word restore means to return to or like sort of
Speaker 1: like uh, rebuild in a similar fashion to what we've experienced.
Speaker 1: So that to me is saying we'd like to return
Speaker 1: to something. And I think we've been establishing in the
Speaker 1: past couple of years that America is not something to
Speaker 1: be returned to, it's something to progress into. But okay,
Speaker 1: so then when you start restore the soul, the soul
Speaker 1: to me is a dog whistle because it's like a
Speaker 1: little bit slightly religious imagery. And also it says something
Speaker 1: about like the soul, like the ancestor like within. Like again,
Speaker 1: it's this like kind of bullshit that reverts back to
Speaker 1: a prior and again, this is not what American needs
Speaker 1: to do. American needs to grass and move forward. And
Speaker 1: then you say of America, which gives people this like
Speaker 1: false sense of duty. So really in every single part
Speaker 1: of that slogan is bullshit. And um anyway, so we
Speaker 1: love Joe, Thank you Joe Biden free um and anyway,
Speaker 1: So anyway, yes, number ninety is the Obama election. I
Speaker 1: just want to say a point. I really quickly just
Speaker 1: we blasted through the Grinch series, the Grine trio. Christie
Speaker 1: Branski did not make the list. She did not make
Speaker 1: the list. She she never looked hot. Her hottest actress
Speaker 1: in Hollywood at the time. I believe she was on Maxim,
Speaker 1: So I believe she was on Maxim, g Q, Vogue,
Speaker 1: all of it. She was. She had the hottest woman
Speaker 1: titles um, but she did not make the list. Who
Speaker 1: did make the list is number eighty nine. This is
Speaker 1: when Nick Jones got adult hot. Remember this, I remember
Speaker 1: that's talking about this. When was adult hot for you?
Speaker 1: I think it was around the time when he was
Speaker 1: releasing the song Jealous. It was a realization for me
Speaker 1: that not only was Nick jonas a man now, but
Speaker 1: he was a hot man and I, unfortunately was powerless
Speaker 1: to whatever was going on. And it's that kind of
Speaker 1: thing where it's like, what he really was a kid
Speaker 1: one day and then was not the next, and it
Speaker 1: was it was it was really like a quantum leap.
Speaker 1: There was no transition, yeah, because it's jarring, right. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like one minute he's like a cute kid
Speaker 1: in the band, and then it turned you turn around
Speaker 1: and he's like not only like sort of a sex object,
Speaker 1: but like explicitly sexual and performing sort of his own
Speaker 1: sexuality for gay men in a way, which is like
Speaker 1: it was such an assault, but one that I welcomed.
Speaker 1: I I welcomed it. Two, there was a very interesting
Speaker 1: discourse around when there was a photo of him on
Speaker 1: some yacht wearing short swim trunks and like looking sort
Speaker 1: of thick in the thighs and everyone saying daddy, daddy, daddy,
Speaker 1: and everyone just being like, wait a minute, this is
Speaker 1: not like thick, like or people calling thick and people
Speaker 1: calling him daddy. So it's like we're not there quite yet,
Speaker 1: and we're and I think that's when the term thick
Speaker 1: got a little bit, you know, common deer. Let's say, So,
Speaker 1: so you think he wasn't actually thick and people were
Speaker 1: calling him thick? Yeah, I gotta say, that's that's my thought.
Speaker 1: I think in that picture he what happened was he
Speaker 1: was wearing a two small bathing and he did look
Speaker 1: like a little love handily. It's a it's an optical illusion, yes,
Speaker 1: in a way that I will say, understanding that the
Speaker 1: bathing suit was too small turned me on in a
Speaker 1: way I can't even describe. We're not saying that it
Speaker 1: wouldn't turn anybody on it was appropriating the word thick.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I didn't say the word appropriate.
Speaker 1: It's just um, then what are you trying? The word
Speaker 1: got started to get moneyed a little. I see, I see.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, save thick for thick, save thick for thick. Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand. Regardless of Nick jonas Um made the list,
Speaker 1: made the list. He made the list here and let's
Speaker 1: go to number eight eight. This this was a moment culture.
Speaker 1: This is the hairstyle of the Rachel. Huge moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: women everywhere were so taken by Jennifer Anderson as Rachel
Speaker 1: and her hairstyle that they said, I want to get
Speaker 1: the Rachel. I have a question for you, gone, did
Speaker 1: the Rachel have to exist in order for the Karen
Speaker 1: haircut to exist? You know the Karen haircut. It's very
Speaker 1: ka sort of like yeah, that kiss and sort of
Speaker 1: like who called it like like a waterfall in the
Speaker 1: front and scissors in the back? Yes, um that I
Speaker 1: think Sudy said that one time. She said that that
Speaker 1: hairstyles like a waterfall in the front, like a front
Speaker 1: bank that's like a cascade, and knives in the back
Speaker 1: like dangerous porcafine back. I don't think that one had
Speaker 1: to walk so the other could run. Um, but I
Speaker 1: do think that they occupy a similar space where they're
Speaker 1: so iconic they earn a name, and so I think
Speaker 1: they're iconic sisters. But the Rachel was at a moment
Speaker 1: and here's the thing, does the Karen still sort of exist?
Speaker 1: I feel like the symbol for like like in names
Speaker 1: when someone is being a Karen, or when it's like
Speaker 1: like you have Patrick from SpongeBob acting a Karen and
Speaker 1: they put on the keke Oslin here on Patrick. Yes
Speaker 1: they do. Yeah, Okay, so that's actually really interesting. Um.
Speaker 1: I feel my thing is like they're both asymmetrical. Rachel
Speaker 1: and the Karen are both asymmetrical, and they're both like
Speaker 1: bad and they're both they're both wild and they both
Speaker 1: got the highlights, and it's just their similarities. It's a
Speaker 1: really really do share a family. And now I am
Speaker 1: fully laughing thinking about the Karen hairstyle and how really
Speaker 1: stupid it is. I had an art teacher who had
Speaker 1: that and it was just like, do you think No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything crazy. I'm just saying it's
Speaker 1: like it's almost like someone who is toying with our
Speaker 1: sexuality a little bit. It's like sort of like putting
Speaker 1: on a hairstyle that's like audacious. Listen, you can make
Speaker 1: the argument that to have a Kiren is to queer
Speaker 1: hairstyle a little bit. It definitely is something. It's queering
Speaker 1: hair in a way you wouldn't get that if you weren't,
Speaker 1: if you weren't by nature a little queer, and that
Speaker 1: you wanted to try out weird things, you know. Bell
Speaker 1: Hooks has described queerness as wanting to try out weird things,
Speaker 1: to try out weird things, and that is what the
Speaker 1: Karen embodies and what There's a difference between having the
Speaker 1: Karen hair and being a Karen and behind we should Yes,
Speaker 1: and Karen's come in all shapes and sizes and genders,
Speaker 1: but karen haircut is very specific. Yeah, and it is
Speaker 1: a little queer, I would agree. And I also think
Speaker 1: it's actually really our number eighty seven, which is describing
Speaker 1: things as cool. Now, I have always thought about this, Yes,
Speaker 1: where did cool come from? And when did it start?
Speaker 1: I wonder did they were they sing in the seventies, sixties, fifties,
Speaker 1: Where did but do you remember where you were when
Speaker 1: you learned the word cool and what I meant. I
Speaker 1: think that honestly, it's one of those words. It kind
Speaker 1: of cool kind of reminds me of like the word sucks,
Speaker 1: where it's like I knew I wasn't supposed to use
Speaker 1: it until it was a certain age, like you weren't
Speaker 1: supposed to use no. I think that I was, But
Speaker 1: it's like it kind of reminds me of that same
Speaker 1: thing where it's like I knew I was. I knew
Speaker 1: I had like my own opinions on the world when
Speaker 1: I was able to be like, I think that's cool.
Speaker 1: Like when I could describe something that I deemed to
Speaker 1: my taste as cool, I was like, Wow, I have
Speaker 1: like sort of ownership over my own opinions, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I would say that this moment
Speaker 1: describing things as cool as really an individual moment from
Speaker 1: every day. It comes for different people at different times, exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to track it back to
Speaker 1: when people started using it. I just feel like when
Speaker 1: you discover for yourself what the word cool means and
Speaker 1: that you know how to use it, like that is
Speaker 1: a cultural moment. I just think, think about it. Like
Speaker 1: in order to describe it's almost like so the word
Speaker 1: cool would mean um on the on the sort of
Speaker 1: side of being cold. And to describe that as something
Speaker 1: that is good or valuable that is so interesting to me,
Speaker 1: Like it had to start somewhere like, hey, that's cool,
Speaker 1: Like it's not hot, although you would call something hot
Speaker 1: to say good, isn't it interesting? It's very interesting. We
Speaker 1: don't talk about thermo political things in this. We don't
Speaker 1: talk about the political things in this ONEK you do
Speaker 1: you remember where you were? I had a kid in
Speaker 1: the fourth grade when I just moved to America. His
Speaker 1: name was Shane Collins, and he he was putting forth
Speaker 1: the claim that he had invented the word tight, like
Speaker 1: using tight. The word tight was invented um right outside
Speaker 1: of Bush Gardens, um in Tampa Bay in the year
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, thank you. And it's important that we
Speaker 1: say that it was invented by a m kid named
Speaker 1: John David. John David, And it was said to his
Speaker 1: two friends, Trevor and Tyler, and he was talking thing
Speaker 1: about the tigers at Bush Gardens. He was he was saying, though,
Speaker 1: these tigers are tight, and actually, um, there was an
Speaker 1: earthquake and no one was hurt, but the culture was changed.
Speaker 1: Was there an actual earthquake that registered? There was a
Speaker 1: sort of cultural earthquake. There was, And even though there
Speaker 1: was a cultur rollers quake, it did not make the list.
Speaker 1: It did not make the list. Words tight did not
Speaker 1: make the list. Now number eighty six, I don't know
Speaker 1: about I love this. I put this on. It is
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers wearing a harness on game show, a harness
Speaker 1: over a shirt, and that is queer. Actually was had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with me not wanting to appear
Speaker 1: shirtless on camera. It um, but I'm happy that sort
Speaker 1: of you know, the harness was at least something. It
Speaker 1: looked good. You know, I've never really been like a
Speaker 1: harness type of you don't have to be. No one's
Speaker 1: forcing it. I've worned, I've worn it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Doesn't it doesn't feel right on me. But for in
Speaker 1: that moment, I'll do a jock strap. Oh, we everyone
Speaker 1: loves everyone should try to wear a drop strap. I
Speaker 1: think it's great. Try sleeping in one. Oh, it's really
Speaker 1: make you feel fabulous, make you feel fabulous. The moment
Speaker 1: of Matt Rogers wearing a harness on Game Show that
Speaker 1: I think is wonderful that it all culminated towards was
Speaker 1: the gift that's being widely used now of Matt, which
Speaker 1: is him saying um used widely used. It's you saying
Speaker 1: I'm attracted to you, let's have let's have sexual intercourse.
Speaker 1: Oh it's I'm horny, I'm so horny, let's go have
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse. So that actually was a note from Quimby
Speaker 1: because I said, I'm so horny, let's go fuck, and
Speaker 1: they said, hey, we have to take out the word fuck.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, well I don't want to
Speaker 1: say I'm so horny, let's go have sex. So I
Speaker 1: was like, let's say I'm so horny, let's go have
Speaker 1: sexual intercourse, which I think is what adds value to that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I had to save it. I would have
Speaker 1: preferred to have just said and that have been the clue. Anyway,
Speaker 1: watch Game Show. If you don't know what we're understanding,
Speaker 1: If you don't understand what we're talking about, watch please
Speaker 1: watch Games Show. Please go seek at this gift. I
Speaker 1: think you can use it in so many album Get
Speaker 1: this gift. Get this gif um. Okay, So number eighty
Speaker 1: five is something I can agree with. It is Stockard
Speaker 1: Channing as Rizzo in Greece. There are worse things I
Speaker 1: could do, Then put Stockard Channing on the list. She
Speaker 1: is iconic in this movie. Huge, in this movie, I
Speaker 1: mean Rizzo, what an iconic character in film and musical theater,
Speaker 1: in culture. Look at me, I'm Sandra d like the
Speaker 1: classic bullying song. She is so good at being mean
Speaker 1: and like cold and removed but remaining like a ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: she is one of a kind. And Stockard sang there
Speaker 1: are worse things I could do. She's sang there are
Speaker 1: worst things I could do. She gave it body, she
Speaker 1: she knew how to sing, and she was acting first.
Speaker 1: And let's just say other people have tried to sing.
Speaker 1: There are worse things I could do, and they've done well,
Speaker 1: but it's not the Stockard, and I guarantee it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where we will never hear a version
Speaker 1: like that. And that's not necessarily because it was she
Speaker 1: got the best voice of all time or whatever, but
Speaker 1: she's just iconically musically acting that song huge. It's a
Speaker 1: perfect marriage, double helix of acting and singing, and she
Speaker 1: got a hickey from KNICKI famously, famously let's keep going,
Speaker 1: Let's keep going. Number eighty four. This is a moment
Speaker 1: in culture, the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. I mean
Speaker 1: that is culture. You cannot get closer to a cultural
Speaker 1: moment that deserves its spot at number eighty four. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, it soared to number eighty four on this.
Speaker 1: I can't really think of more iconic theme park culture
Speaker 1: than that damn building that has been struck by lightning,
Speaker 1: and inside are the screams of people plummeting an elevator,
Speaker 1: and iconic merging of story and theme park attraction, iconic
Speaker 1: merging of um, what's his name? Sterling? Sterling's voice, that
Speaker 1: iconic voice that I could listen to that voice another dimension.
Speaker 1: I heard something. I think Rod Slings got a hot voice.
Speaker 1: I mean I can see that. I think he was hot. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's that kind of hot voice where it's like it's
Speaker 1: a little bit nerdy, And that's how you know it
Speaker 1: would sound really like like hot and horny during sex,
Speaker 1: because like, I don't think a masculine voice on the
Speaker 1: other end is always with a way to go. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: like you want to hear someone going for it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be tough like this. Oh no, oh no, I don't
Speaker 1: like that. Actually, no, don't say my name is hardest
Speaker 1: on game shoe. Oh my god, Oh my god. What
Speaker 1: does that sound like that you're doing? It sounds like
Speaker 1: it kind of sounds it sounds like it's some some character.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, okay, that like that, rod stop Okay.
Speaker 1: Number eighty three a huge moment in culture. Hillary Duff,
Speaker 1: Let's say it together. I'm sorry, Hillary Duff, Lizzie McGuire
Speaker 1: and more. You know what I love about Hillary Duff.
Speaker 1: She will not stay silent because I remember when covid
Speaker 1: first broke out, she would She just posted a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff on Instagram stories. Remember this, everybody, She was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: are you fucking idiots going out to bars? Stay the
Speaker 1: fuck home. She like, she has the shortest views and
Speaker 1: she's not afraid to let it light up. I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the only celebrities that hugged us at Vulture
Speaker 1: Fest of her own volition. Also iconically on Younger she
Speaker 1: is Lizzie McGuire. She was the biggest pop star of
Speaker 1: like those Disney girls at the time. When she came
Speaker 1: at she said so yesterday and she said, come Clean
Speaker 1: Clean the iconic theme song to the Hills. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: wait now the Hills was Yes. Um started a feud
Speaker 1: with Faye Dunaway when she was what fifteen years old? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What have you done today? What have you done today?
Speaker 1: What were you doing at fifteen? Not? Certainly not starting
Speaker 1: a feud with the old Hollywood icon Fade Dunaway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: certainly not and also not for nothing. But she was
Speaker 1: carrying on feuds with Faye Dunaway and Lindsay Lohan at
Speaker 1: the same time. That that is iconic. That is literally
Speaker 1: her saying, I want the biggest mess that's in her
Speaker 1: seventies and the biggest of mess that's my young under
Speaker 1: fifteen ass age. Let's start a feud with Start a feud, bitch,
Speaker 1: and I'll still end up on a premium cable sitcom,
Speaker 1: Yes and Multicam, and you will still listen. You will
Speaker 1: still listen to my dance records. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: on Molly while Coming? While Come Clean is playing a
Speaker 1: remix of Coming? Have I ever been on Molly while
Speaker 1: Come Clean? As everybody else I have been around you
Speaker 1: when this happens, when it's unbelievable, it's safe to dance
Speaker 1: on masks again, and you are able to maybe be
Speaker 1: on ecstasy. Come come clean, Coming clean, Coming clean. When
Speaker 1: she goes with that part apart from somewhere, she goes,
Speaker 1: I'm coming Hilary Duff came on the record and we
Speaker 1: all just kept dancing. I'm sorry, just the beginning that song.
Speaker 1: Let's go back back to the beginning, and then she
Speaker 1: goes back to the sun stars all alive, so stupid.
Speaker 1: Hillary Duff is telling us to go back to the
Speaker 1: beginning of time, and that's how she starts her song
Speaker 1: about love. That's that's an acid trip. It's a mom
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's rolling, it's every drug experience. Let's
Speaker 1: go back back to the beginning, back to the sun,
Speaker 1: the stars all aligned, A huge song, a poet and
Speaker 1: I mean so yesterday, the metamorphosis the album Huge, Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm actually like shaking, shaking um and number eighty two
Speaker 1: will have me continue to be shaking. And that is
Speaker 1: super based by Nicki Minaj. Iconically our origin story, iconically
Speaker 1: our origin origin story, matten Eyes origin story. As friends,
Speaker 1: our friendship is founded on in our identities as barbs.
Speaker 1: People forget that super Base really locked it in Song
Speaker 1: of the Summer. It was clearly the song of the Summer,
Speaker 1: and I remember hearing it and like checking in with you,
Speaker 1: like did you hear this one? Because it is deep
Speaker 1: in the album. It is a bonus track. It wasn't
Speaker 1: even on her album, it was it was a bonus
Speaker 1: track or swild bonus track. Taylor Swift sang it on
Speaker 1: a radio show and Nicki Minaj credits Taylor Swift with
Speaker 1: the super Base moment, and that's an iconic moment in
Speaker 1: culture for Taylor Swift to say, I like the song
Speaker 1: super Bay, And then the world turned their attention to
Speaker 1: super Base and they had realized what Nikki had created
Speaker 1: on that one, which is I think the best pop
Speaker 1: wraps off of the past since two thousand as the
Speaker 1: century so far, esther esther, Dean hook hooks, and a
Speaker 1: video that matched the sonic moment that Ice Motorcycle, are
Speaker 1: you getting the pink lepper body suit and all the
Speaker 1: guys in the peptobysmal pool. I mean, it's unbelievable, It's
Speaker 1: so good. It's a huge moment, a moment, a moment,
Speaker 1: a moment that was Nikki's beginning really um number eighty one,
Speaker 1: speaking of the ladies, good luck book in that stage,
Speaker 1: speak of Rihanna to Sierra, who could forget this Twitter fight?
Speaker 1: Can you get into what you tell the story? This
Speaker 1: story is I don't know the specifics, but Sierra was
Speaker 1: on Fashion Police and the picture of Rihanna came on,
Speaker 1: and Sierra took umbrage with the fact that Rihanna has
Speaker 1: not been kind to her at certain award shows or
Speaker 1: events or concerts. Something She said she'd route to her restaurant,
Speaker 1: route to herd a restaurant even better. So Rihanna catches
Speaker 1: the wind of this and then tweets at Sierra, UM,
Speaker 1: I mean I mean my bad seeds and I forget
Speaker 1: to tip you savage, and then Sierra said. Sierra said,
Speaker 1: I don't have time for this. I'm about to get
Speaker 1: on stage, and then Rihanna said the famous words more
Speaker 1: fatality words. Good luck booking that stage you speak of,
Speaker 1: I mean good luck booking that stage you speak of,
Speaker 1: just the word choice. I mean you can't beat that
Speaker 1: good luck booking that stage you speak And let's not
Speaker 1: gloss over the savagery of oh my bad seed, did
Speaker 1: I forget I forget to tip you because you must
Speaker 1: have been the absolute waitress. Don't go on fashion please
Speaker 1: and talk about me. I didn't get in your business.
Speaker 1: Good luck booking that stage. You speak up. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: it's it's the most savage. You should have known that
Speaker 1: she was going to release a lingeree line called Savage Frenzy.
Speaker 1: And also, didn't she tell you that she was a savage?
Speaker 1: Didn't she tell you in that tweet that shook the
Speaker 1: standems before they were real, before stands, before stand culture
Speaker 1: really took shape. Number eighty Michelle Williams and Anne Hathaway
Speaker 1: scenes and Broke Back Mountain. We're not going to talk
Speaker 1: about the men. Enough has been set, enough has been said,
Speaker 1: enough has not been said about the ladies have broke
Speaker 1: back Jack nasty, Jack nasty that scene Fish, There's really
Speaker 1: not much to be said. I mean, Anna Hathaway, I
Speaker 1: wasn't like We've talked about this on blank Check famously
Speaker 1: David Simson and Griffin Newman's podcast. But that's like the
Speaker 1: Anne's first kind of Prestigi role after Princess Diaries, after
Speaker 1: Ellen enchanted. It was a surprise to see her doing
Speaker 1: something like this. Yes, and she's like Conican at that
Speaker 1: last phone call when she calls Heath up and tells
Speaker 1: him what happened to Jake, Joel and Hall. Unreal Michelle
Speaker 1: talk about Michelle. I mean, Michelle is amazing every frame
Speaker 1: of this movie. She's incredible. And she has that amazing
Speaker 1: scene where she sees them kiss, totally silent reaction of that,
Speaker 1: and then the confrontation scene at the end of the
Speaker 1: movie when she says Jack Twiss, Jack nasty, you don't
Speaker 1: go up there to fish and she throws the plates
Speaker 1: and screaming, oh my god. I feel like they recreated
Speaker 1: this scene of her watching them kiss. In the new
Speaker 1: show Love Victor. Wow. And you know, Bowen and I
Speaker 1: have just watched, well, I watched every episode. Bow and
Speaker 1: watched the last episode and was impressed. I was very impressed.
Speaker 1: I was also very stunned. That's true. But um, there's
Speaker 1: a moment at the end of the season that sort
Speaker 1: of calls back to Brokeback Mountain and I won't say
Speaker 1: what it is, but I will do this. I'm going
Speaker 1: to shout out the lead actress from Love Victor. Her
Speaker 1: name is Rachel Hilson. This girl is a talent, Yes,
Speaker 1: she is a talent and Bowen. You can even see
Speaker 1: I all I got were like maybe five minutes total
Speaker 1: with her, even like I don't even think you saw
Speaker 1: her speak much. But no, I didn't see you speak much,
Speaker 1: but her acting it hit me like a ton of breakfast.
Speaker 1: She is a select She is so good. This I'm
Speaker 1: telling you like Love Victor and also Anna Ortiz is
Speaker 1: queen and everyone's good. And honestly, I liked Love Victor
Speaker 1: and I'll talk about it on another episode of the pod,
Speaker 1: but there's more to be said about it anyway. Okay,
Speaker 1: Number seventy nine, Taylor Swift turning around to see large
Speaker 1: crowd cheering. Now, this is a This is like a
Speaker 1: common motif, and Matt's clapping. I'm clapping because it's what
Speaker 1: would we There would be so much less to enjoy
Speaker 1: in the world if Taylor Swift didn't turn around to
Speaker 1: see crowds and look the way she looks. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: get the you know, sixth single off of the album
Speaker 1: music video that's just the concert footage, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, And all her albums she has the
Speaker 1: sixth single, Once the Cycle has died Down, she releases
Speaker 1: in a music video quote unquote that's just the concert footage,
Speaker 1: and half of it is just be a roll of
Speaker 1: her turning around to be surprised that the audience is
Speaker 1: there and smiling. Also, if you've ever seen her in concert,
Speaker 1: she does still do it to an extent. Did she
Speaker 1: do a reputation tour. Reputation tour, she was kind of
Speaker 1: like in a moody, So she was famously in a
Speaker 1: mood during Reputation and she was not like necessarily looking
Speaker 1: around and smiling at the crowd, although you did get
Speaker 1: a few moments throughout that she was happy that we came,
Speaker 1: but mostly she was in like kind of a sour
Speaker 1: mood during reputation, um, which I think was the brand.
Speaker 1: But then you know she was back to turning around
Speaker 1: and smiling during the Lover era, and um, I guess
Speaker 1: we're not getting a Lover tour. She is rescheduling it
Speaker 1: to next year. She was doing she was doing Lover
Speaker 1: festivals in different cities. I will be seeing that. I'll
Speaker 1: be because I loved Tay. And when she turns around
Speaker 1: to see a crowd, like she's surprised every single time
Speaker 1: and happy that everyone showed up, like it never happened before.
Speaker 1: That was brand culture for me. But what is the
Speaker 1: seminal moment of it. We know it is her in
Speaker 1: the beginning of the after Welcome to New York, of course,
Speaker 1: turning around Peak Peek in that like teal sequined letter jacket,
Speaker 1: letterman jacket and just being like, oh my god, hi
Speaker 1: six people like Hue so at nine by the time
Speaker 1: she had gotten to that level, it's like she was
Speaker 1: turning around and like she was like but it was
Speaker 1: a little bit less like I'm shocked you came, and
Speaker 1: it was like, I'm so happy you guys are here.
Speaker 1: It was that it was the white girl version of
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson popping up from the stage and people in
Speaker 1: like Budapest like fainting for like and like screaming for like,
Speaker 1: you know, seven minutes straight. It's the white girl version
Speaker 1: of Beyonce popping up, rising from you know, a hydraulic
Speaker 1: system and everyone losing their minds as she glares at
Speaker 1: everybody in her beautiful, intense way, the white girl version
Speaker 1: of as Taylor Swift turning around over her shoulder being like, hey, y'ah,
Speaker 1: so glad you guys are And also this was also
Speaker 1: the really this is the beginning slash peek of iconic
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift white girl stomp. Once she would sort of
Speaker 1: stop from one area of the stage to another, and
Speaker 1: that was the extent of the corio, and that was
Speaker 1: just kind of it. And then our reputation there was
Speaker 1: like actually a lot of dancing, but the white girl
Speaker 1: stomp was never more happening during tell her stuff behaviors
Speaker 1: on stage, chiefly her turning around to see a crowd
Speaker 1: and being shocked that culture moment and culture. Let's move
Speaker 1: on this, and it is Marcia Cross on Desperate huge
Speaker 1: Brint camp I feel that this was the character that
Speaker 1: is most identifiable. I would say the visual like picture
Speaker 1: I have in my mind of Desper house Wives is
Speaker 1: of um Marcia Cross as Brie and the sort of
Speaker 1: energy I feel of what I remember it is, of course,
Speaker 1: but the image is Brive Anti camp In in a
Speaker 1: tight bun bringing a huge dish with Rex. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: so funny that you think of the tight bun. I
Speaker 1: think of that like a little swoop like sort of
Speaker 1: miss Honey from the hair that she had that like
Speaker 1: suburban freak. She had that And for some reason the
Speaker 1: scene that I keep thinking back to it, there's several
Speaker 1: scenes that I think back to when I think of
Speaker 1: death for Housewives. But one of them is season two premier.
Speaker 1: This is after Rex dies and she's just standing outside
Speaker 1: her house with like a huge dish or something, and
Speaker 1: the other wives scheme where they're like, whe are you okay?
Speaker 1: She they would want this, and they're like, no, we're okay.
Speaker 1: Do you need anything? She's like, well, what a waste?
Speaker 1: And she like throws away up giant dish and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Marcia Cross, that is the moment, Marcia Marcia Eva, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give some props to Terry. I would give Terry props.
Speaker 1: I would give Terry props. I mean Lynette's Gavo or Felicity,
Speaker 1: are we gonna give her props? I give them all props,
Speaker 1: but I don't give any of them as much props
Speaker 1: as Nicola. Nicola who offered to slap to the face
Speaker 1: while on set. I never forget that, and had to
Speaker 1: be electrocuted to die. She was electric well, she died
Speaker 1: like four different ways in an episode, but um, which
Speaker 1: was kind of iconic, to be honest with you. But yeah.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, when I was thinking about Desperate Housewives for
Speaker 1: this list and I know you agree. I just felt
Speaker 1: it's Marcia. It's the Marsha Show. It's Marcia when she
Speaker 1: iconically screamed out in grief when she found out in
Speaker 1: the last episode that Rex had died of the first season.
Speaker 1: The moment, the like pearl clutching moment. This was like
Speaker 1: back when Desperate House was was like the first scripted
Speaker 1: show to make a splash after like years and years
Speaker 1: of reality, right, And I remember, like the moment was
Speaker 1: that dinner party scene where she and Rex had just
Speaker 1: gotten into a fight, and then like they're all the
Speaker 1: couples are sharing funny stories about their significant others and
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm talking about, Rex cries when
Speaker 1: he ejaculates, huge, unbelievable the clutch. It's actually real culture.
Speaker 1: Number nine when cry cries was clutch. And now we're
Speaker 1: gonna move on to number seventy seven, which is Monique
Speaker 1: and Mariah in the final scene of Precious. You know
Speaker 1: this writer, Jeffrey Fletcher is his name, won the Oscar
Speaker 1: for Adapted Screenplay for this film. And you one that
Speaker 1: disputes that you could win an Oscar for the scene
Speaker 1: the scene alone. Oh my god, they got Monique the Oscar.
Speaker 1: I mean, she won the Oscar walking in the door
Speaker 1: with this one. And also Gabbarett is incredible in the
Speaker 1: incredible and Mariah is put some on miss White's come on,
Speaker 1: come on, miss White, come on, Miss Weiss. She really
Speaker 1: grounded the scene and the three of them were stunning.
Speaker 1: This was an incredible scene, one of the best scenes
Speaker 1: I think, I'll say of this century. I have to
Speaker 1: I have to think that Mariah is aware of the
Speaker 1: diametric sort of opposite of her, Like she's getting such
Speaker 1: a grounded scene in like such a like the polar
Speaker 1: opposite in terms of a person from Mariah Carey, right,
Speaker 1: like a social worker. Yeah, who's just sitting there like hey,
Speaker 1: like all right. It's honestly weird though that she's It's
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see her capable of such a grounds.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. And also to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like you think no part of her is like tipped
Speaker 1: off by Monique that she should be bigger, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. She really understands her function in the movie.
Speaker 1: And it's a great supporting performance. And you know that
Speaker 1: that whole moment is it's so vivid, it's so good.
Speaker 1: This scene is amazing, and you know, if you want
Speaker 1: to see actresses tearing it up, it is a hard
Speaker 1: story to watch, but it's also you know, I think
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Um, precious, you must, you must, let's keep going.
Speaker 1: This is number when it was revealed and Frozen that
Speaker 1: it was about sisters and not man. This was iconic
Speaker 1: feminism because when you hear love in a Disney film,
Speaker 1: you think, oh, heterosexual couple, romantic, but no, this is
Speaker 1: the love of sisters. This is the love of sisters
Speaker 1: and it runs deep, and only the love of sisters
Speaker 1: could save them in the end. Actually, if you watch
Speaker 1: and remember I think you're Anna, I'm Alsta. Yes that
Speaker 1: is true. But which I've thought of this many times.
Speaker 1: I would there be the Ana in some way? Why
Speaker 1: she just gets to live. I have not seen Frozen two.
Speaker 1: I should say Frozen too literally sucks and I say
Speaker 1: it on the record, Okay, but Anna feels like she's
Speaker 1: She's the one who's living the most life and Elsa's
Speaker 1: the one who's put upon, which I I'm fine with beings.
Speaker 1: But Elsa has the incredible she has the incredible talent
Speaker 1: within and she has the unbelievable power of all the
Speaker 1: stars and all the weather and all the moon and
Speaker 1: the universe within her. And when she learns to let
Speaker 1: it free and control it, she is unstoppable. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter that Anna is off having fun, but you
Speaker 1: are Anna and everywhere you are Christin Bell that and
Speaker 1: just like Kristin Bell, I will figure it out. Let's
Speaker 1: keep going. Number seventy five is Tina Turners Eighties come Back.
Speaker 1: This was a moment because you know that she did
Speaker 1: not have an easy time of it with Mr Ike.
Speaker 1: And also, can we say we need to stop with
Speaker 1: the Ike Turner and Tina Turner jokes. So let's just
Speaker 1: say that I was never I'm always like I that's
Speaker 1: a pro cluture for me. Whenever someone casually is like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the tire Tina, I'm like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute. No. Also, he was her monster and brutalizer.
Speaker 1: Tina Turner, We love you. The eighties come back, The
Speaker 1: eighties come back? What's love got to do with it?
Speaker 1: The iconic care simpler, the best everything, just the end
Speaker 1: to end, simply the best with the best, Yes, the best. Honestly,
Speaker 1: she is a wild vocalist power and you know what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do for my birthday when I came
Speaker 1: to New York, what I wanted to go see t
Speaker 1: You know, we were we got tickets to to see what.
Speaker 1: We had tickets to see Tina And it was that week,
Speaker 1: I think it was three days before and then they
Speaker 1: closed it down and who knows if it will even
Speaker 1: open again now it's closed. Until we kept talking about
Speaker 1: anti culture this, let's speaking of Broadway. This is rule
Speaker 1: number seventy four. An Ariana Grande from Wicked and Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: Unbelievable and somehow like the vote, the Ariana Granny vocal
Speaker 1: runs worked when she goes from the lass favorite Yeah
Speaker 1: you did it? That was hell and that look of
Speaker 1: joy on her face right before she hit the note,
Speaker 1: and also she had gone we can't tell about it,
Speaker 1: but she had gone through something tough a cop few
Speaker 1: days prior, and then was on that show right after
Speaker 1: the news of that dropped and slayd that song down
Speaker 1: and to watch her get so happy like before she
Speaker 1: was singing it, and while she was singing it, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is a triumphant moment. And it was
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Bernardette Peter singing Hello, Dolly,
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, a child of Broadway has returned. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: she has returned to the stage, miss star of thirteen
Speaker 1: and now number seventy three, and I talk about her
Speaker 1: return to the stage. Missy Elliott revealed Katie Perry's super
Speaker 1: Bowl performance. It was a reveal. I do want to
Speaker 1: point out that Matt Rodgers wrote in Ruvealed she was
Speaker 1: revealed when Missy Elliott was revealed during Katy Perry had
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and that giant Katie was wearing. That
Speaker 1: giant oversized like literally every single one of Katy Perry's
Speaker 1: outfits of us both were hideous like like, which is
Speaker 1: totally consistent with the rest of her career. And I
Speaker 1: say that in the most loving way. And we gotta say,
Speaker 1: I mean, Katy kind of nailed the performances. I watched
Speaker 1: it the other day. Literally, I don't really know what
Speaker 1: else you would want from a Super Bowl performance. I
Speaker 1: think hers was amazing. Oh the girls have done amazing. Girls.
Speaker 1: I have very few notes for the girls. Um, but Missy,
Speaker 1: Missy showing up, get your freak on, is that what
Speaker 1: they did? Know that they your freak gun and work
Speaker 1: it and work it. Um and then lose control huge.
Speaker 1: Do you remember lose control when that would come on
Speaker 1: at school dances? Clear the floor, Clear the floor, I
Speaker 1: gotta I'm sorry to bring up ecstasy again. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: That has to be a sick out experience. I probably experienced,
Speaker 1: not lose control that past that Dutch when Paris that
Speaker 1: Dutch comes on and you're on Molly. I think I
Speaker 1: turned to you. I was with you one time when
Speaker 1: this happened to one time, the time that's happened that
Speaker 1: I can remember, I turned to you and I was like,
Speaker 1: mean Girls is an amazing movie. Yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you did, and I'm sure I agree
Speaker 1: to because I'm I'm I'm rolling and I can only
Speaker 1: think of Rachel McAdams being carried out by all these
Speaker 1: jocks onto the field. Truly, I'm kind of we're actually
Speaker 1: going to get to that later. Two is Fergie singing Italian.
Speaker 1: This was a moment of culture and it's worth seeing
Speaker 1: the movie nine just to watch Bergie sing the Italian.
Speaker 1: And it is a joke to me that the Oscar
Speaker 1: nominee from that is Penelope Cruz, who was great, but
Speaker 1: she wasn't. Fergie singing the Italian as a as a
Speaker 1: you know, sort of prostitute down by the river. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like Fergie outperformed Dayla tay Lewis. Listen to
Speaker 1: me and look me in the eyes. Yes, I do think.
Speaker 1: I think she was a shining light. And let's just say,
Speaker 1: Daniel day Lewis, he did not hold a candle to Saratagin.
Speaker 1: Italian is a crazy ass. If you want to know
Speaker 1: about the love is Psycho. I remember watching uh interview
Speaker 1: with her about the movie and she goes, well, you
Speaker 1: know what, I was singing the Italian. My character Sarta Gina.
Speaker 1: She sings the Italian so many times, and so every
Speaker 1: time I said the Italian, I wanted it to be
Speaker 1: a different sort of meaning. Like you know, when you
Speaker 1: say the Italian, it's like the love of food, the
Speaker 1: love of sex, the love of coature, the love of
Speaker 1: the Italian men. You know, it's so many things that
Speaker 1: come with being Italian. And so if you listen, every
Speaker 1: time I'm singing the Italian, I'm singing about loving a
Speaker 1: different part of being Italian. And I was like, my
Speaker 1: jaw is on the floor, and not only the words,
Speaker 1: but you re enacting, well, I actually can embody. Literally
Speaker 1: when I was right now, I was her in my
Speaker 1: mind's eye, I saw myself as first. It makes sense,
Speaker 1: It makes you being a vessel for Fergie makes complete
Speaker 1: sense to me. Do you remember the iconic glass note?
Speaker 1: Do it? No? I can't, And she's like belting her
Speaker 1: big old tits off what I walked out of nine.
Speaker 1: I stayed for the Italian. I stayed for Kate Hudson.
Speaker 1: I think it was first. You didn't even see Marian
Speaker 1: even saw spiel Lauran. I think I just maybe it
Speaker 1: was good. I just left before like the end. I
Speaker 1: was just like I saw what I came to see.
Speaker 1: I saw the women. I went out. I saw it
Speaker 1: two times in theaters, once on a date. It was
Speaker 1: like the third date I had ever been on in
Speaker 1: my life. Oh my god. And so this is this
Speaker 1: is just it feels like a betrayal for me that
Speaker 1: you did that. It's me and Sudy's favorite film. I
Speaker 1: know it is. It's so bad. I just I want
Speaker 1: to I just want to gay culture. It's gay culture.
Speaker 1: But it was also like good La Luna. It's Sophia,
Speaker 1: she's a hundred, I know singing. Kate Hudson has amazing hair,
Speaker 1: and she goes and it's such a it's such a performance, Kate.
Speaker 1: It's never looked better in a movie. Wait now, I
Speaker 1: feel like while you're here, we have to have to
Speaker 1: watch it, and we also have to continue. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Number seventy one is Normany. I mean, Normany has really
Speaker 1: stormed into the scene, and she has stormed right onto
Speaker 1: the list, right onto the list. But you and I
Speaker 1: were talking, you know, you and I not to get
Speaker 1: pat ourselves too much on the back, but you know
Speaker 1: we've been saying, we've been saying, guys, the actual star
Speaker 1: a Fifth Harmony is Normany La Cabello, who you know,
Speaker 1: has doing a lot of it, is going through a
Speaker 1: lot of growth. And despite her you know, very anti
Speaker 1: black past, she's now putting the work in with very
Speaker 1: anti black past and is now putting the working with
Speaker 1: Mr Mendez and they are doing whatever they can to
Speaker 1: to to to do right by by everybody and everything.
Speaker 1: We don't even want to talk about Camilla during it's
Speaker 1: you and let's just say Normandy. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: her for years. Normany. It was always the best answer
Speaker 1: in fifth, Fifth Harmony. If you look at the work
Speaker 1: video Normany is turning it out from home. She is
Speaker 1: crawling up and down that damn bulldozer. And then when
Speaker 1: you got my motivation, it was do you remember where
Speaker 1: you were? Do I remember where I was? I remember
Speaker 1: that day so vividly. I don't remember where I was,
Speaker 1: but I remember that it was constant watching of the
Speaker 1: video Capital m moment, talk about a moment in culture,
Speaker 1: motivation video, just just calling forth these cultural visuals, paying
Speaker 1: her respects to Beyonce. And here we thought that out
Speaker 1: of all the girl group sort of b players, that
Speaker 1: we already had the number one motivation when Kelly Rowland
Speaker 1: came out with motivation, and then Normany came out with
Speaker 1: her own motive vation and she said, uh, look out
Speaker 1: for us girls who are not the lead singer of
Speaker 1: the group with the second lead vocalist vocal Okay, look
Speaker 1: out for us too. And we we gotta say Motivation
Speaker 1: by Kelly Roland is this fantastic another bop but just
Speaker 1: didn't make the list because it didn't make didn't make it.
Speaker 1: What did make the list is another song number seventy
Speaker 1: get Out of My Way by Kylie Minogue, I mean
Speaker 1: from the Aphrodite album, Huge album, This is a huge
Speaker 1: album and this song the video go on about this
Speaker 1: the video you got all these gay men, these upside
Speaker 1: down triangle men running around. I talked about their silhouettes.
Speaker 1: They're they're just like beefy up top top heavy, broad shoulder,
Speaker 1: just like fucking voguing the house down, the light projection
Speaker 1: designs and then the chairs. Kylie Minogue in a red outfit,
Speaker 1: just walking up to this cliff, this golden lit cliff
Speaker 1: during the bridge. It's an incredible song. Goddess. She was
Speaker 1: feeling her goddess iconography there and this moment, this moment
Speaker 1: on the list is indicative of a much larger career
Speaker 1: that is Kylie Minogue, and we do respect. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say something to you. You need to get more into Kylie.
Speaker 1: You need to get into the back catalog. I'm actually
Speaker 1: surprised this it took this long to come up because
Speaker 1: you don't know that much Kylie. It would that be
Speaker 1: fair to say I don't have like a deeper You
Speaker 1: know who loves Kylie is Lewis Forte and Grand like
Speaker 1: all the l A gays like I love Kylie Minogue
Speaker 1: and I just have this sort of I don't know
Speaker 1: I don't know who fills the space where Kylie Minogue
Speaker 1: needs to go. Here's what you do. Start out looking
Speaker 1: searching for her interviews. She there was no more charming,
Speaker 1: deep pop diva interviews than she. She's second to maybe
Speaker 1: share like in terms of being charismatic in interviews, and
Speaker 1: like once you see them in an interview, like yes,
Speaker 1: I love you, I will follow you to the end
Speaker 1: of the earth. Kindie, there so great interviews And just
Speaker 1: listen to X listen to I mean just everything Kylie
Speaker 1: listened to. I mean Golden I think is a great record.
Speaker 1: She but like, but Guy Brandham said, wow, Gaga when
Speaker 1: she released Chromatica gave us a Kylie Minogga record, Like
Speaker 1: that is like the ethos of Kylie just giving you
Speaker 1: dance anthems down boots. Okay, let's keep going. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about number sixty nine. You don't have howork to do
Speaker 1: for this. No, the discovery of penicillin antibiotics huge. We
Speaker 1: could not be where we are in the pout them.
Speaker 1: I don't think that I could have come back from
Speaker 1: so many sicknesses that I have had had it not
Speaker 1: been for antibiotics. And I just want to shout out
Speaker 1: to all the doctors right now, and we are thinking
Speaker 1: of you. We're thinking of you. Let's keep going. Um,
Speaker 1: this is number sixty. This is an iconic moment. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy you put on thank you when Ash Armelion
Speaker 1: evolved into because this is truly the loss of innocence.
Speaker 1: This is the loss of innocen. This is saying goodbye,
Speaker 1: This is saying goodbye. And you know, if you remember
Speaker 1: from a show, Charmelion was not very nice to Ash,
Speaker 1: did not follow his orders. No, but it's crazy because
Speaker 1: it's like this is actually there's a much deeper meeting
Speaker 1: here because the char Mander was really sweet, so sweet
Speaker 1: charm We never would have seen this coming. There's lots
Speaker 1: of it is since But you know what else this is,
Speaker 1: This is a model of a toxic relationship. Yes, and
Speaker 1: it was really it was Ash let him mature too quickly,
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was really what it
Speaker 1: was was overtraining and it was abuse. It was abuse.
Speaker 1: It was overtraining abuse. It happens all the time. And
Speaker 1: because when you remember that Charis Art was even worse
Speaker 1: than Charmelion in terms of being so cocky, not listening
Speaker 1: to Ash, flying away from battles when ashe needed him
Speaker 1: the most. And then you know later on, I think
Speaker 1: it was in the Joe to League that Ash gives
Speaker 1: up Charis are Ultimately he realizes they both be better off.
Speaker 1: But that very Brilli and Andrew moment, very brill and
Speaker 1: Andrew moment from Desperate Housewives. But this is um that
Speaker 1: was the moment that they saw each other as equals.
Speaker 1: Was when Ash was able to let chars Are go,
Speaker 1: and Chars I respected that from Ash. Honestly, it's a
Speaker 1: huge moment. Ultimately, it's this is one of the most
Speaker 1: I think it's the most painful relationship in the Pokemon universe.
Speaker 1: I think so. And an amazing arc and an amazing arc.
Speaker 1: Amazing arc. Thank you number sixty seven. When w ah
Speaker 1: and A Star Is Born this I was with you
Speaker 1: the day the trailer dropped. Yea, And to say, I
Speaker 1: think I googled it every day from when I saw
Speaker 1: the trailer to when the movie came out. I was
Speaker 1: so excited for A Star is Born and it did
Speaker 1: not disappoint. And to know that not only was that
Speaker 1: amazing moment in trailer history, it was an amazing moment
Speaker 1: in cinema history in a way that made me forget.
Speaker 1: Like it made me because for a while I was like,
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be like a melodramatic movie. It's gonna
Speaker 1: rock us on a cultural level like this. Uh like
Speaker 1: since you know I was thinking this thing years ago,
Speaker 1: I was like, there's not gonna be like a My
Speaker 1: Heart Will Go On. Yeah. I think that what we
Speaker 1: had there was the closest thing we were going to
Speaker 1: get to like my Heart Will Go On moment, where
Speaker 1: like a ballad like that was really from the soul
Speaker 1: of a movie and had to only be for that movie,
Speaker 1: like really crossed over, although we did have Let It Go. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what, It's weird because I always think of
Speaker 1: like the moment of ballads from movies being huge hits
Speaker 1: as very Yester Year, but The Star Is Born both
Speaker 1: had huge Oscar winning songs that were huge mainstream hits.
Speaker 1: I think Shallow was one of Lady Gaga's biggest records ever.
Speaker 1: I think it. I think it has like one trillion
Speaker 1: stream Yeah, it's like a really crazy amount of streams. Um,
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, one trillions. It's real culture number
Speaker 1: eighty three streams on Spotify. But you know, it's like
Speaker 1: my heart will go on. I don't want to miss
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like all these like huge, sweeping melo
Speaker 1: dramatic songs. Yeah, I thought they were like a thing
Speaker 1: of the past. Spit then here here Gaga, Nadina go okay,
Speaker 1: Oh my God. Number sixty six Kelly Clarkson singing Natural
Speaker 1: Woman on American Idol. I have to give you the
Speaker 1: floor on this. So there were a lot of performances
Speaker 1: that were big moments for Kelly on American Idol, and
Speaker 1: Bowen had suggested that we put Kelly Clarkson winning American
Speaker 1: Idol on the Culture List. But the thing is, it
Speaker 1: was a foregone conclusion that she would win early on
Speaker 1: in the season when she sang a natural woman, because
Speaker 1: she hit this whistletone note. She was rocking a tie
Speaker 1: and a little hat. She was so addressed like a
Speaker 1: little businessman. What was the theme that week? This theme
Speaker 1: was sixties and she's saying natural woman and it was
Speaker 1: so she was twenty years old. It was well beyond
Speaker 1: her years. And I said, this is not only going
Speaker 1: to be a star in the Winner of the Show,
Speaker 1: but this is going to be someone in my life.
Speaker 1: And she has remained so And I'm looking right now
Speaker 1: at her vinyl, her meaning of like designed vinyl and
Speaker 1: she just want an Emmy, a daytime Emmy for talk host.
Speaker 1: Halfway got Halfway? Do you got? And Kelly, I've known
Speaker 1: it from the beginning. I love you. You're a moment
Speaker 1: of culture. Do you have anything to add, how emotionally
Speaker 1: ambassy you pay tribute like this lover her. She's a
Speaker 1: moment of Kelly so much. And you know Kelly was
Speaker 1: you know Kelly earlier on and the last episode was
Speaker 1: kind of involved in the moment of culture of Matt
Speaker 1: and I being on the view that she she was
Speaker 1: the reason we were there. She was the reason we
Speaker 1: were there. She wasn't the culture that day. It was us.
Speaker 1: The culture was us. And um that gentleman who went
Speaker 1: to go to the concert, but we don't speak of him. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Kelly's number sixty six, but number sixty
Speaker 1: five is Sailor Moon. This iconic young woman took the
Speaker 1: morning time by storm in my house, in your house.
Speaker 1: Sailor Moon, um Usagi, Serena, whatever you wanna call her,
Speaker 1: but just did the world around her gave us the
Speaker 1: magical girl archetype in anime in manga. Um uh, what
Speaker 1: a what a heroic girl fighting evil by moonlight, winning
Speaker 1: love by daylight, never running from a real fight. This
Speaker 1: is the one named Sailor Moon and the transformation sequences Sailor, Venus, Sailor,
Speaker 1: Mercury Sailor, Mars Sailer, Jupiter Dream. I could go on
Speaker 1: and the Sailor stars the series. You had the Search
Speaker 1: for your Love, you had Sailor, Neptune Sailor. You're in
Speaker 1: a Sailor Pluto iconic. Queer characters, queer cultured trans characters
Speaker 1: a huge thing, a huge part of the culture. I
Speaker 1: just remember watching Sailor Moon in the morning, and it
Speaker 1: was so early when I had to go to school
Speaker 1: that it was still dark out, so it was like
Speaker 1: watching a like a primetime show, but before school. I
Speaker 1: remember it was so early in the morning that it
Speaker 1: was on. It was it had to be on, like
Speaker 1: like it was always dark outside or maybe it was raining.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was young. Um, okay, so we're
Speaker 1: moving on to number sixty four. This is Parker Posey
Speaker 1: and Josie and the pussy Cats iconic. When she walks
Speaker 1: down the stairs to her own party. Why do you do?
Speaker 1: What could do to me? Baby? Shaking my convdence, driving
Speaker 1: me crazy? You know if I could, I'd do anything
Speaker 1: for you so good And she is just sort of
Speaker 1: letting her body sway. It's incredible, I mean. And that
Speaker 1: movie really is like comedically like so huge. You had
Speaker 1: Parker Posey, you had a Eugene Levee, Cameo, Alan, Alan Cumming,
Speaker 1: Missy Piles, Rosario Richel could of course, yes, became Donald
Speaker 1: Faison and what's his name? Freck and meyerck and Meyer.
Speaker 1: We love one of my crushes Green. It was like
Speaker 1: of the time, like so perfect. But then you had
Speaker 1: like the Christopher guest flavor and there with Parker and
Speaker 1: with Eugene, and I just remember that movie influence. We've
Speaker 1: talked about this before, but that movie has influenced me
Speaker 1: so much. Oh it's also well ahead of its time
Speaker 1: in terms of what it was saying and what it
Speaker 1: was exploring. Now. Number sixty three is Yohaugenberg inventing movable type? Well,
Speaker 1: we certainly wouldn't be here. It certainly wouldn't be easy
Speaker 1: to live life with that what he had done. Imagine
Speaker 1: having to read a handwritten book. Thank you not my
Speaker 1: favorite Gutenberg. That would be Steve Gutenberg. Would love Steve
Speaker 1: Gutenberg didn't make the list. You know who did make
Speaker 1: the list is number sixty two. Robin. We love Robin.
Speaker 1: Robin has created some of the most amazing music of
Speaker 1: our time. And I would actually say the song that
Speaker 1: defines our generation the most is Dancing on My Dancing
Speaker 1: on My Own. Absolutely, there's pathos, there's a beat, their suffering,
Speaker 1: there's joy. And you know, one of my fondest memories
Speaker 1: is of going to the Robin Honey concert at Barclay Center, Yes,
Speaker 1: with my sister Matt Rodgers and Josh and and Josh
Speaker 1: and Mo and Dave, and we brought poppers and when
Speaker 1: the poppers hit at a Robber at a Robin concert,
Speaker 1: they hit and I saw it so hard. I saw
Speaker 1: him that vogueing, the fastest vogue I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my life. I was really filling myself with that Robin concert.
Speaker 1: And how could you not, I mean, that was that
Speaker 1: was one of the best summers ever, honestly, and also
Speaker 1: it was just such last summer. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: so that was a great summer. No, I'm so sad.
Speaker 1: I will have great summers. We'll have great summers anyway.
Speaker 1: Robin provided us with that moment and so much more.
Speaker 1: And I remember her in singing show Me Love, and
Speaker 1: that is longevity right there. Yes, come on Swedish pop
Speaker 1: Icon to be celebrated. Number sixty one, Hey clown Jester,
Speaker 1: you have done it again constantly for the circus. This
Speaker 1: is the Michelle Obama meme replaced with words clown and
Speaker 1: jester and circus. Look it up. Look it up and
Speaker 1: of course foolishly and doing it and doing it foolishly.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. It's just a good meme. It's great, and
Speaker 1: it's a culture momentum. Number sixty is Feud, Bay and Joan.
Speaker 1: Where is the next series of Feud? So I looked
Speaker 1: into this. They were they were going to do Diana
Speaker 1: and Charles um and then they were going to call
Speaker 1: it something else and it lost the Feud name like
Speaker 1: the pre colon really and then Ryan Murphy sciences Netflix deal,
Speaker 1: so then I think Feud is contractually bound to FX.
Speaker 1: So now that he's on Netflix, he's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know when I'll be able to do Feud again, but
Speaker 1: I would love to do foot again when I can.
Speaker 1: So we it's it's indefinitely just done. But feud, what
Speaker 1: we had a feud? Isn't that sad? That is a
Speaker 1: bummer because I actually thought that feud was one of
Speaker 1: the better Ryan Murphy too, Yeah, and you know whatever,
Speaker 1: But I thought Bettie and Joan was great, even though
Speaker 1: the writing is like, I love Betty and Johan and
Speaker 1: I need a little bit of over the top writing
Speaker 1: like that sometimes. I mean, the last episode of spoiler Alert, Um,
Speaker 1: Jessica Lang is Joan Crawford hallucinating all of you know,
Speaker 1: the the old Hollywood people who tormented her. Um so good.
Speaker 1: She's truly good in it, and honestly, had it not
Speaker 1: been for big little lies in nicole Um, that was
Speaker 1: a crazy year. It was a crazy yer and we're
Speaker 1: actually gonna talk about it in a second. Fifty nine
Speaker 1: is S Club seven. I mean, these two these young
Speaker 1: girls hot sort of like, you know, trying to be
Speaker 1: the new group of the moment and succeeding there for
Speaker 1: a little bit because it was Simon. It was some.
Speaker 1: It was not Simons, Miss Fuller, Simon Fuller signing them
Speaker 1: and this is hot off the success of the Spice Girls.
Speaker 1: You know, S Clip seven as club party. Um never
Speaker 1: had a dream come true. All that just really songs
Speaker 1: for the moment, for the moment, and we can all
Speaker 1: remember that moment, sort of like wishing we had like
Speaker 1: a boyfriend or a girlfriend at the time, and sort
Speaker 1: of like you know, so soda pop fantasies. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I think of them. Number I can Barely
Speaker 1: see is a little bit of a different fantasy of
Speaker 1: a soft drink or something you could drink. The invention
Speaker 1: of ice coffee. I can't live without it. Me neither
Speaker 1: love the stuff moving forward? Fifty seven is I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, this is Desperate Housewives, but make it even
Speaker 1: richer and prestige and with an oscar Worthy director and
Speaker 1: real A list talent behind the camera. I identify as
Speaker 1: Reese and big little lies I have. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: a Shelene. We've never really figured out what I am.
Speaker 1: I feel you're celest, but with power, you're so lest
Speaker 1: when she's in the courtroom. What do we think of
Speaker 1: Season two? I don't hate season two as much as
Speaker 1: everyone else does, but but I would say that I
Speaker 1: would rather have big little lies than not having, Like
Speaker 1: I'm if at the end of the season I'm mad
Speaker 1: because there was too much pulpe on my drama about
Speaker 1: like rich A list actresses. It's like, that's fine. I'd
Speaker 1: rather like, yeah, you know, how many seasons of Big
Speaker 1: Bang thirty like have been on. We can get a
Speaker 1: few seasons a bit little lies. I don't really ever
Speaker 1: understand when people are like, we don't need a third season.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't need, like I don't need
Speaker 1: another a million dollars, but want it like thank you,
Speaker 1: And it's the same, am bib little Ice. Season three
Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of a million dollars. You know
Speaker 1: what they didn't do enough in season two, which they
Speaker 1: also didn't do enough in season one, was not enough
Speaker 1: Marion Marion Dungey. Well, I thought that she would be
Speaker 1: a bigger part exactly what's what I'm saying. But she wasn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she wasn't. And she also was iconically in Private Practice
Speaker 1: to spin off when it was a backdoor pilot, and
Speaker 1: then they recast her with miss Audre McDonald, who unfortunately
Speaker 1: did not make the list. Um let's keep going. But
Speaker 1: who did make the list? Number fifties six Deb Wilson
Speaker 1: on Mad TV, one of the best sketch performers of
Speaker 1: all time. In my opinion, you put her up there
Speaker 1: with Gilda. Oh. I mean, she pops on the screen
Speaker 1: like no other and the choices are out of control,
Speaker 1: but they are welcome. Let's just I'm truly rattling these
Speaker 1: off yet, Whitney Houston beneath a Latifa harri Fa Sharifa Jackson,
Speaker 1: you had prehistoric prehistoric, I mean you had yes, prest
Speaker 1: Clamazon Huntress is a d she was She was like
Speaker 1: the she was Mariah. She was this default commercial parody voice.
Speaker 1: She was the cssily strong of that TV um she
Speaker 1: she did so much, she did so much incredible. Oh
Speaker 1: she did Diana Ross in a crazy Halloween theme sketch.
Speaker 1: If people remember where she bit Michael McDonald's nipple off.
Speaker 1: I love mat TV so much as people know Deborah
Speaker 1: Wilson like popped in a way. I love her and
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, this is a seminal artist artists.
Speaker 1: And speaking of artists, number five, Brandy Cinderella, this is
Speaker 1: the definitive telling of Rogers and Hammerstein. Thank you. And
Speaker 1: you had an Asian male lead in the nineties, Are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? She had biracial parents and it was
Speaker 1: just it was it was a Victor Garber and Whoopi
Speaker 1: Goldberg and like it was just a completely colored blind cast.
Speaker 1: Not that that even had anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: I remember being little and not even thinking about it
Speaker 1: was just like amazing to watch. And Whitney was the
Speaker 1: godmother of course, the Whitney Houston impossible things all happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and Brandy iconic sitting all on
Speaker 1: in her little corner, on her own little chair, sin
Speaker 1: in her chair, and did you ever see like the
Speaker 1: interview footage or like the footage of them staying together
Speaker 1: at the in the studios. It's just beautiful and well
Speaker 1: that was Brandi's idol, that was Brandie's idol, and like,
Speaker 1: but you could see that Whitney was pushing her because
Speaker 1: she knew she was capable. And look, you had a
Speaker 1: gay dad, Victor Garber, huge and married to Berna, I mean, iconic,
Speaker 1: burna dead getting a big part like that. We like ever,
Speaker 1: my mom said to me, that's Brenda Deett Peters and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know that, but I do
Speaker 1: know that. I want to know more, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I was like, I'm actually interested in hearing
Speaker 1: more about this Bernadette Peters because there's something going on.
Speaker 1: That was my first exposure to Berna Dead, I think
Speaker 1: I would imagine. So yeah, so I'm moving forward. We
Speaker 1: have a number fifty four. This is iconic Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: Think about all the culture that Jurassic Park has given us.
Speaker 1: I mean, not only do we have Laura during staring
Speaker 1: up and wonder at what we then realized later was
Speaker 1: a c G I dinosaur. There wasn't even anything for
Speaker 1: her to look at, talk about acting talking about it.
Speaker 1: Then you've got I mean, Beaty Wong serving up iconic
Speaker 1: fish villain. You got that t Rex, another villain in
Speaker 1: the film, very big, very mean, the raptors extremely nasty,
Speaker 1: and we had the most handsome creation of all as
Speaker 1: dr Ian dr Ian Malcolm, Thank you Mr Jeff, Mr
Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom. And we have sex icon's icon. You had
Speaker 1: the iconic little cartoons train of DNA narrating how the
Speaker 1: park came to be, talking about the amber, talking about
Speaker 1: the MS Dinosaur theme Park. They sat down and they
Speaker 1: wrote Dinosaur Theme Park, of Course, which is a novel. First,
Speaker 1: thank you Michael crist Then we had Steven Spielberg making
Speaker 1: into the amazing moment. And then we have the theme
Speaker 1: parks everywhere nationwide, I mean internationally, Girl Dress Park. Now
Speaker 1: we have Jurassic World. The movies are um trying something new,
Speaker 1: but they do give us Bryce Dallas Howard out running
Speaker 1: a t Rex in her heels. That and then in
Speaker 1: the second movie a ponytail. Chaotic good, chaotic. This is
Speaker 1: the definition of chaotic good. Absolutely, it's actually real culture.
Speaker 1: Number seventy Bryce Dallas Howard is the definition of chaotic good.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Let's move on. Number fifty three is Dr Meridian.
Speaker 1: We just watched this film. I haven't seen any I
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of streamocrafy, I have not seen
Speaker 1: a Streat Macro film since he passed away. Oh, you
Speaker 1: need to watch Batman Forever and Batman and Robin in
Speaker 1: a double feature. Because Nicole Kidman as Dr Chase Meridian
Speaker 1: is not what you remember. She is driven only by
Speaker 1: her sexual impulses. In the film, she has iconic Veronica
Speaker 1: l hair. She rings the bat symbol, which means that
Speaker 1: something is happening just so she can get make it
Speaker 1: on a roof, so that she can like you know,
Speaker 1: sort of position him. She is lashing her movies around
Speaker 1: like she is driven wild by her own wiles. And
Speaker 1: this was she's a psychotherapist. This is Val Kilmer Batman, Batan,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, I mean not even close. Who
Speaker 1: do you think it's the hottest? How does Batman? I mean,
Speaker 1: if if to be to be totally honest with you,
Speaker 1: the hottest Batman, flat out period is Christian. You have
Speaker 1: a body like that, George Clooney, You didn't see the body.
Speaker 1: Well he wasn't even trying, George Clooney. Now he was
Speaker 1: like mad to be there. Yeah, yeah, of course he
Speaker 1: wasn't even happy about being there. God, Batman and Robin
Speaker 1: is truly truly crazy. It's one of the most insane
Speaker 1: movies ever. But we're gonna talk about it a bit, Okay.
Speaker 1: So number five two is The Sims? What would be
Speaker 1: without the Sims? One of the best selling games of
Speaker 1: all time. Um, you know you could live out all
Speaker 1: your fantasies on the Sims. You could. I did feel
Speaker 1: rich playing the Sims after Rosebud, of course, after the
Speaker 1: rosebed Cheat. But you know, to live out your fantasies
Speaker 1: by building as big of a house as you wanted. Um,
Speaker 1: I felt rich. I've never felt did you ever do
Speaker 1: the code to get unlimited money? Yeah? Rosebud, Rosebud always, always, always,
Speaker 1: And you know it was fun too. In sequels, you know,
Speaker 1: there's aspirations that you can work with, and it was
Speaker 1: fun to sort of, you know, make my character the
Speaker 1: mayor of sim City. That's incredible, thank you. See I
Speaker 1: was like a really coach tycoon person. But I feel
Speaker 1: that the Sims arened its place here because I even
Speaker 1: played the Sims as well. And to sort of watch
Speaker 1: my characters quote unquote interact was very formidable for me.
Speaker 1: For not formidable, it was formative and formidable. And I
Speaker 1: don't know my words, but I do in my heart.
Speaker 1: Let's keep going, um, let's keep going. Number one speech.
Speaker 1: The world is ship. The world is bullshit. The world
Speaker 1: is bullshit. This is bullshit, she said, and she was right.
Speaker 1: She was right, and she said, go with yourself, Go
Speaker 1: with yourself, Go with yourself. Isn't that beautiful? Honestly she
Speaker 1: only looks crazy at the time, but now looking back,
Speaker 1: ahead of her time, ahead of her time, go with yourself.
Speaker 1: Don't go with what this industry wants you to do.
Speaker 1: Go with yourself and what like also like what eighteen
Speaker 1: at the time, young Michelle branch Age, Billie eilish Age,
Speaker 1: Kate bush Age, smart ass, smart as girl. And moving
Speaker 1: forward we have another incredible ass number fifty Lucy Lou
Speaker 1: Flip your goddamn hair and Charlie's Angels too, of course
Speaker 1: Cameron who then flipped her hair to Luke to great success.
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson, who was hot and hot, but also Matt
Speaker 1: LeBlanc was also hot in that movie, and so was
Speaker 1: Sam rockwell so with Samuel Rockwall, Tom Green with Drew
Speaker 1: Berrymore's loving not hot in the movie, but you know,
Speaker 1: he served, he served a purpose. He was goofy, definitely goofy.
Speaker 1: I love Charlie's Angels me too, Oh my god, like
Speaker 1: a really well directed movie. And the writing is so
Speaker 1: fun and it's really that's I mean, it did what
Speaker 1: the new one didn't do, which is it went for
Speaker 1: the fun and the jokes and the sort of campiness,
Speaker 1: which is this idea that there would be a Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 1: You have to blow that up. You have to blow
Speaker 1: that up. And the music and the soundtrack and Charlie's
Speaker 1: Angeles is all like seminies classics, mostly like it's like
Speaker 1: it's like a tribute to the original Charlie's Angels. It's
Speaker 1: so good. It's so good. I also think it understood
Speaker 1: something that the New Charlie's Angels didn't, which is like
Speaker 1: the Charlie's the New Charlie's Angels like what I like
Speaker 1: about the old Charlie's Angels. And maybe there's something weird
Speaker 1: about me saying this, but I like that they were
Speaker 1: like overtly sexual, that they were like really in control
Speaker 1: of their sexuality, and this new one sort of had
Speaker 1: like almost like a chip on its shoulder about like feminism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it was just like, no, they're not sexual, they're
Speaker 1: just they're just soldiers. And it's like okay, and I
Speaker 1: mean yes, but also that doesn't like, let's not shame
Speaker 1: the movie that came first and the like female production
Speaker 1: team that put it together, and like, you know, but
Speaker 1: it's it's the third wave. I feel like Charlie's Angels,
Speaker 1: the McGee to the two McGee movies was very third
Speaker 1: wave feminist in the way that it was like they
Speaker 1: were empowered because of their sexuality in spite of it anyway,
Speaker 1: were it was amazing and Lucy Little we stand and
Speaker 1: now we're in the top fifty, number forty nine and
Speaker 1: Vogue and Salt and Pepper collabing on what a man.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, I mean this is
Speaker 1: a huge moment um like maybe best singing girl group
Speaker 1: of all time and Vogue I think so. And then
Speaker 1: but just the moment, it's a perfect marriage. Um, no
Speaker 1: one is compromised on the song and you know, you
Speaker 1: get you know, he's so crazy. I think I want
Speaker 1: to have your baby. I mean, like perfect, like seamless
Speaker 1: into it's drenched, so good, drenched in goodness. Come on,
Speaker 1: here we go. Number Billy Porter's curtain hat. You can't
Speaker 1: say much about this and then iconic other than iconic,
Speaker 1: and watch the video of it opening. It's very funny.
Speaker 1: It is very indicative of Billy Porter's fashion sense, which
Speaker 1: is a whole moment, and it's represented here on the
Speaker 1: littlest of the top two. Let's keep going. Number is
Speaker 1: God Warrior. You came to my mind. I saw her.
Speaker 1: I went to go see her at our station. You
Speaker 1: came to my mind. You came to my mind. A
Speaker 1: slee the God Warrior speech from wife Swap. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: We saw Bob the drag queen to a lip thing
Speaker 1: to it. That was the next level. It broke it
Speaker 1: all open from me. And I went home that night
Speaker 1: and I watched I saw Bob do it at a Barracuda,
Speaker 1: went home, watched it and I was like, I maybe
Speaker 1: even texted you. I was like, this is an incredible thing. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's an incredible moment in television history. And now did
Speaker 1: you know that she's like repentance, yes, and she's like
Speaker 1: very woke. Yeah, she like she celebrates lgbt Q and
Speaker 1: like and like she's like I think she's down with
Speaker 1: like like the uprising too, and like black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: I think I love that. I think she's like fully
Speaker 1: like repentant and she's like go on the opposite, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean to see yourself be that, to see what
Speaker 1: you think is a normal thing be blown up and
Speaker 1: like become such a crazy moment in history. Maybe she
Speaker 1: had some good uh re educated, but it doesn't always happen.
Speaker 1: But like I just think the I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: blow out the mic. She's not a Christian. Amazing, she's
Speaker 1: not a Christian. Oh my god, it's tainted all right.
Speaker 1: Number forty six is Fergie singing the national anthem. Of course,
Speaker 1: she capped it off with let's play some basketball. She
Speaker 1: makes it on lest twice a huge feed. I think
Speaker 1: she was. She she did the jazzy rendition of the
Speaker 1: national jazzy rendition and we love I. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's actually that embarrassing for her. I think she like,
Speaker 1: she need not be embarrassed. She took us by the
Speaker 1: shoulders and she was like, you're gonna listen to me
Speaker 1: saying the national now, and she and I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it my way and it's gonna be a moment. And
Speaker 1: you know what we're talking about it right now. You
Speaker 1: know we're not talking about right now the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about anyone else's version of that now
Speaker 1: we have them except Fergie. Yes, okay, you're right, numbers
Speaker 1: pretending to America's next. So of course this is the
Speaker 1: You really are the tyra historian of the two of us,
Speaker 1: and not really, I didn't. I didn't even watch that
Speaker 1: top model that much. But of course we know the moments,
Speaker 1: and the moments are you know, um Eva and all
Speaker 1: all the famous winners, all the famous winters, all of
Speaker 1: them but you remember this moment, right She's she's sitting
Speaker 1: down with the girls on a chair. She's like, I'm
Speaker 1: really I don't feel good anyway. Um okay, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you guys about this challenge. But
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys, I'm just so tired, okay.
Speaker 1: And then she gets up and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: trips over herself and eats ship on the carpet of
Speaker 1: this room as the girls freak out, and you just
Speaker 1: you have to listen to these screams because of the
Speaker 1: girls were like it's incredible, and ty were just like
Speaker 1: flips her bodies and she lands on her shoulders and
Speaker 1: like you're not sure if she's seizing or if she's fainting.
Speaker 1: And then someone get her water, get her water, and
Speaker 1: then she gets up and then of course famous she goes,
Speaker 1: you gonna learn about my God, it's so relentless acting. Well,
Speaker 1: let's just go right into our next time, which was
Speaker 1: number forty four Banks pretending to have rabies on Tyra.
Speaker 1: So this is when she took her acting to the
Speaker 1: next level and pretended that she was bitten by a
Speaker 1: dog who gave her rabies. Foamed at the mouth live
Speaker 1: on stage during an interview and collapsed and roared at
Speaker 1: her guests like she was a dog, barked to the camera.
Speaker 1: And so entire's mind, having rabies is turning into a dog.
Speaker 1: That's what she was telegraphing. Yes, And the fact that
Speaker 1: she took a sip from her from her like water
Speaker 1: bottle and filled herself with like foam and then pretended
Speaker 1: to foam at the mouth and turn into a dog
Speaker 1: and growl at guests. I don't understand. She deserved the Emmy.
Speaker 1: She won the damn day. And I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: agree with that one. And gonna have to say number
Speaker 1: forty three is rate the Franklin's Gowns interview, the iconic
Speaker 1: sit down that Aretha did when she released her Diva
Speaker 1: Covers album and she was asked about Ello Swift and
Speaker 1: she said, okay, gowns, beautiful gownswn and just watch it.
Speaker 1: Just watch. I mean, you know, if most of you
Speaker 1: know by now on that one that's from that interview,
Speaker 1: that's a book of lies and trash. Just what that is,
Speaker 1: that is nothing but lies and trash. That is a
Speaker 1: book of lies and trash and of course, Sissy's baby,
Speaker 1: Sissy's baby. I mean Aretha Franklin, the grand dam of music,
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, holding her, holding her place
Speaker 1: and just not having any of it from this interviewer.
Speaker 1: Aretha was a talent and moving forward before we have
Speaker 1: lose voice. This is that deep voice, deeper than that,
Speaker 1: this is the deep like it's just a gorgeous I
Speaker 1: can't even do it. She has an iconic grasp. Has
Speaker 1: she really done a lot after House and Sand and fog? No,
Speaker 1: she was on Gray's Anatomy, she was on Think, She's
Speaker 1: been on some shows in sort of the streaming era
Speaker 1: era that we're not that we're just not thinking of that.
Speaker 1: We love Shara. I love Shara. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: like I think she was in one iconic thing, but
Speaker 1: it's like not jumping out to now I know, how's
Speaker 1: it saying in vog is pretty iconic. She had the
Speaker 1: Oscar nom, she had the Oscar No. But it's a
Speaker 1: shame to me that she hasn't worked more because she's
Speaker 1: iconic and like beautiful someone who you've seen pictures of
Speaker 1: her from when she was young. Yes, gorgeous, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying like she's aged into her beauty. Yeah, she was
Speaker 1: like a screen goddess. Um. Okay, So speaking of goddesses
Speaker 1: number forty one, Greek mythology, I mean, so many young
Speaker 1: girls are in these stories, Yes, a lot of young girls.
Speaker 1: We learn about Zeus, we learned about rapist. Zeus is
Speaker 1: a rapist. Really, so many Zeus babies are products of rape.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to have to read this again. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to bring the mood down, but it's true. But
Speaker 1: like I just want to say, I have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with my ancestors. I apologize for them and I
Speaker 1: denounced them. Thank you, thank you for taking accountability. But
Speaker 1: I feel like Greek mythology, if you, if you're really
Speaker 1: dug into Greek mythology, you learned about the human condition
Speaker 1: and you look about the darkness and the light and humanity.
Speaker 1: And that's what we try to do, an entertainment exposed
Speaker 1: the darkness and the light. So thank you, greet thank you.
Speaker 1: Now we have number forty The opening piano A Thousand
Speaker 1: Miles by Vanessa Carlton. You know it, you'll love it.
Speaker 1: It's a comedic beat and white checks. It's if you
Speaker 1: ever hear it, it is it I think is. I
Speaker 1: honestly think if that came on and we were on Molly,
Speaker 1: we would flip a ship. It's transportive, Yes, it is.
Speaker 1: It takes you back to another I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I heard it. I was in the car on
Speaker 1: the way to Catechism to study, to study the Catholic
Speaker 1: religion on a Tuesday night. And I was in the
Speaker 1: car and I was like, we I can't get out
Speaker 1: of the car. I have to know what's happening with
Speaker 1: the song. When the strength come in, You're like, I
Speaker 1: it has its damn close in me and I con
Speaker 1: niconic song, I hanic song. And yes, I was in
Speaker 1: the car. It was on Radio Disney and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a huge, huge Vanessa Vansa And then that
Speaker 1: really was you forget like because that song was so huge.
Speaker 1: It feels one hit wonderous. But she also brought to
Speaker 1: you with white Houses and she brought a tea with
Speaker 1: ordinary day. Yes, we love Vanessa. I love Vanessa. I
Speaker 1: believe she was on Broadway. I think she wasn't beautiful, beautiful,
Speaker 1: she wasn't beautiful, and you know what she she edged
Speaker 1: out a lot of competition. She edged out Robin. She
Speaker 1: edged out, I mean Aretha, Yeah, I mean, but she
Speaker 1: didn't get to the heights of number thirty nine. Little mix,
Speaker 1: hey singing black Magic. So this is a part of
Speaker 1: culture that you didn't know about until I told you
Speaker 1: yesterday because we were listening to a little Mix and
Speaker 1: you were playing the bop of Bob's thinking about you.
Speaker 1: What it was, it was, have you do you think
Speaker 1: about us? Think about us? I'm sorry I mistitled think
Speaker 1: about us? And I was like, put on black Magic
Speaker 1: and you said, well, no, they hate singing black Man,
Speaker 1: even though I like black Magic, said when I was like,
Speaker 1: they don't like black Magic? And then he was like
Speaker 1: what And I was like, have you ever seen the
Speaker 1: YouTube video of them being so over singing black Magic?
Speaker 1: And then we came back and we watched it and
Speaker 1: it's shoe Jesse and Nelson in particular hates black Magic.
Speaker 1: And there's a it's like this clip of the many
Speaker 1: times they've sung it. They clearly hate doing it. They're
Speaker 1: doing it acoustic, they hate it. And then there's a
Speaker 1: clip at the end which is them all in quarantine
Speaker 1: drinking wine together doing like an instant live or something.
Speaker 1: You're doing a great addressing and go ahead, Oh no,
Speaker 1: here we go. This next question is what's the song
Speaker 1: you hate doing the most? Black Magic? Black Magic? And
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, you don't really, you really don't
Speaker 1: like black magic and just I've never really locked it
Speaker 1: to be on it, Jesse. I love iconic and black Magic,
Speaker 1: And although I do think that if we had to
Speaker 1: sing it every night, we'd have to, we'd be really
Speaker 1: sick of yeah, for sure. But okay, their harmonies only
Speaker 1: sing that's not acoustic are unreal. And the music video,
Speaker 1: I think it's amaster the Crown. That number thirty eight
Speaker 1: Desperate Halfwives. Now I was a little bit questioning this one.
Speaker 1: You could have reordered it. You could put marsh Across
Speaker 1: above Alfrey. But I think it's right that al Free
Speaker 1: is up here because White Betty Apple White, and she
Speaker 1: iconically had two sons, one of which was a killer
Speaker 1: and the other which was locked in the basement she
Speaker 1: thought was the killer, but was actually the other son
Speaker 1: who it was her son Matthew, who was the hot one,
Speaker 1: very hot actor, crazy hot. He was also on True
Speaker 1: Blood and you see him have sex many times. That's perfect.
Speaker 1: He has sex with Routina Wesley's character Tera Routina, Oh
Speaker 1: my God, to gorgeous Routina on the list. Routina is
Speaker 1: one of the best actors we've had in tele I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say right now, Routina, we apologize you were an
Speaker 1: honorable mention. You and Nicoletus are honorable mention Routina, Routina,
Speaker 1: and also Anna Paquin's gap and Quand's gap and she
Speaker 1: made it work. And the iconic gay sex scene on
Speaker 1: True Blood between Alexander Skarsgard and Ryan Quanton. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Oh no, no, no no. But I just
Speaker 1: want to say before we move on, Alfree Woder on
Speaker 1: Disperate Housewives, just great work. I mean nominated, I mean nominated.
Speaker 1: The acting is so restrained and like you can tell,
Speaker 1: there's a darkness behind whoever this character is. And she
Speaker 1: just pursed lips a free worder can act her ass
Speaker 1: off her personal lips. And also, please, if you want
Speaker 1: more Alfrey, go see Heart and Souls. Y um okay.
Speaker 1: Number thirty seven Murder on a Stupid Bitch Express. This
Speaker 1: is come on, Matt, what is it? It's the iconic,
Speaker 1: iconic two part episode of our very favorite podcast hosted
Speaker 1: by Mazie Rodman and Theta Hamill and I have never
Speaker 1: laughed so hard so soon until the beginning of a
Speaker 1: podcast episode. It starts off with an improvised transactions and
Speaker 1: somehow it works. It works. Oh, you've never seen it.
Speaker 1: Okay for people who don't know improv at this point,
Speaker 1: who can't be doing transactions. You can't be doing transaction scenes,
Speaker 1: but Macy and they to make it work so well.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joel Kim Booster has said, um that you
Speaker 1: are the Macy of this podcast. You're you're, you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you are sort of the the joy, the chaotic good
Speaker 1: that's just running him up. Yes, and I am sort
Speaker 1: of the straight man who has to straightment against everything.
Speaker 1: And I've never been more flattered that first. I'm also flattered.
Speaker 1: I think NIPA Wars is a superior podcast in every way.
Speaker 1: I would say it's better than ours. Please listen too
Speaker 1: to qualify. I'm sorry, and no I would I wouldn't disagree.
Speaker 1: And also I would say, Joel Kim Booster, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, but you didn't make the lists. You didn't
Speaker 1: not this time. Number thirty six. Evia Lungoria saying, hi,
Speaker 1: heleronic acid. I've never been struck by a cosmetics, a
Speaker 1: skincare commercial. In my life. Her energy has inspired me
Speaker 1: from the beginning gil at least down to high leronic acid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I've been inspired every step by the way.
Speaker 1: She's the queen of one liners. And this is, in
Speaker 1: its own way a one liner. A queen of Corpus
Speaker 1: Christie Texas, Thank you, Queen of Corpus Christie. Even number
Speaker 1: thirty five documentaries about important subjects such as global warming,
Speaker 1: such as whales, such as um, the way that um
Speaker 1: you can go from being a waitress in the Wrongs
Speaker 1: to becoming congresswoman, the youngest congresswoman. Yes, And you know,
Speaker 1: there are so many documentaries out there, and we we
Speaker 1: would suggest that if you are someone who you know,
Speaker 1: it's not easy for you to read a book, but
Speaker 1: you want to learn, you can watch the documentary. I
Speaker 1: would say in a lot of ways, Matt Rogers famously
Speaker 1: more of a documentary watcher. I'm famously kind of I
Speaker 1: read a little bit more books than Matt. But I
Speaker 1: could say Matt is maybe in general more informed than
Speaker 1: I am on certain subjects, and it's because he watches
Speaker 1: The Doctor. Lately, I've been watching a lot of documentaries
Speaker 1: and absorbing a lot of new information, which is new
Speaker 1: for me. I usually just kind of live in my
Speaker 1: own world, but now that I'm in quarantine, I've actually
Speaker 1: been branching out in terms of my interests and educating.
Speaker 1: I love I want you to school my ass on
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein whenever I could. Um, okay, so number thirty
Speaker 1: four Rachel from thousand six. We had mean girls, we
Speaker 1: had wedding crashes, we had the notebook. We had read
Speaker 1: by eye that this is like right around family Stone,
Speaker 1: and it ended yes, And I made sure to look
Speaker 1: up when Family Stone came out. Family Stone was two
Speaker 1: thousand five. I want to see what a run of
Speaker 1: movies like, like I could do everything a moment though,
Speaker 1: for an actor who deserved, who like fully rose to
Speaker 1: the occasion on every single on every single level, every
Speaker 1: single time. I think. It's like I remember at the
Speaker 1: time being a fucking teenager and being like, Wow, this
Speaker 1: is huge, And I don't know why I'm so obsessed
Speaker 1: with this actress. I was going on she had star quality,
Speaker 1: star quality. I was going on her. I AMDB every
Speaker 1: damn day, commenting on the damn message boards, being like
Speaker 1: I love Red macn you were a super fan. I
Speaker 1: haven't really shared this with you. I was. I used
Speaker 1: to go on Canadian Queen, Canadian Queen. I always I
Speaker 1: would go in all the IMDb message boards because back
Speaker 1: in the day you had at the bottom of every
Speaker 1: profile message boards, and I would go to the ones
Speaker 1: of like Sean Hayes and I'd be like, guys, do
Speaker 1: we think Sean Hayes is really gay? Like I would
Speaker 1: like start up these these conversations. Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: were a little troll. I was a little troll. I
Speaker 1: was a little you know, a little reply guy, little
Speaker 1: keyboard worry. But you love miss Rachel. I loved Miss
Speaker 1: Rachel so much. And what a string of hits in
Speaker 1: this in this time period, she really nailed it. What
Speaker 1: do you have to say about Rachel? What do I
Speaker 1: have to say about Rachel? She has that like iconic
Speaker 1: just like intangible quality. And I mean during this time
Speaker 1: it was when you talk about like great comedic performances,
Speaker 1: you can't really do much better than Regina George and
Speaker 1: your girls. She also fully carried Red Eye the whole time,
Speaker 1: like and it was really kind of it got me
Speaker 1: in the movie theater for a movie like that, which
Speaker 1: I never would go to, like a thriller like that
Speaker 1: awesome Wedding Crashers. She's so winning and like you're so
Speaker 1: rooting for them to get together because she's incredible. And
Speaker 1: then also the Notebook is you know, polpy, but she
Speaker 1: is giving you romantic drama lead thank you and okay,
Speaker 1: Wedding Crashers like so charming and like, yeah, her and
Speaker 1: Owen Wilson, it's like I'm on you like white Unrice,
Speaker 1: like oh my god, Like I'm like that's hot. I
Speaker 1: want like this is pulling me in the Notebook. I
Speaker 1: didn't know this, but during filming her and Ryan Gosling
Speaker 1: hated each other. Yes, I couldn't stand each other. And
Speaker 1: then they started dating when the movie came out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when it came like but he like tried to get
Speaker 1: her replaced. I think he was like, it's other her
Speaker 1: or me, and they were like no, Rachel McAdams. And
Speaker 1: of course the famous moment in the filming stone, I
Speaker 1: don't care what you think. Of course you do small
Speaker 1: work work, and it's so shocking to me. The her
Speaker 1: Oscar nominationist for Spotlight, a movie where she doesn't do
Speaker 1: much since she's good. She listens to Michael Syrol Creighton, Um,
Speaker 1: but you said something to me recently where you were
Speaker 1: Like her performance as Regina George like did influence female
Speaker 1: behavior in generation? It did it? It and its specifically
Speaker 1: influenced what girls thought was dominant social media. Her literally,
Speaker 1: her vocal delivery, her inflections, her state of being, the
Speaker 1: way she carried herself all trickled down to actual girls
Speaker 1: trying on the sort of visage of mean girl in
Speaker 1: a way that like, I don't know, I didn't go
Speaker 1: to school in the eighties or the nineties, but it's
Speaker 1: like that didn't really happened, like after Heather's came out,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like Rachel like like Regina George is like, no,
Speaker 1: it's that thing. It's like a blessing and a curse
Speaker 1: because you have people like that who are so good
Speaker 1: that you want to be like them, and when they're
Speaker 1: playing someone mean, it's like that's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's literally kind of what the movie is about.
Speaker 1: It's about idole, where ship amongst peers or amongst people
Speaker 1: that are like attainable to be around and become and
Speaker 1: so what you'll do to become that and I think
Speaker 1: it weirdly played. It played out um for people that
Speaker 1: were too young to understand what was going on. That's
Speaker 1: the impact of I mean, she's incredible, incredible, Um Alright,
Speaker 1: number thirty three, we have Lemonade. Remember when we didn't
Speaker 1: know what this was going to be. That it was
Speaker 1: just her in the in the in the dreads and
Speaker 1: like we had just like the album art, just the
Speaker 1: album right was heard in a six inch like set up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the world the word Lemonade. It was actually it
Speaker 1: was don't Hurt Yourself, Yeah it was. And so she
Speaker 1: was just had the title Lemonade, and it was like
Speaker 1: is it like a purple range real film, like is
Speaker 1: it a collection of music videos? Is it an album?
Speaker 1: Is it? What is it? Is it going to be short? Long?
Speaker 1: And it ended up being you know, uh, like long
Speaker 1: form music video art piece. And it was tree and
Speaker 1: like a tribute to like Yoruba tribal motif like it was,
Speaker 1: and like we're recording this on the eve, not on
Speaker 1: the evel. Black is King is about to come out
Speaker 1: her next visual album, inspired by her time working on
Speaker 1: The Lion King. Like you know, Lemonade is a huge culture,
Speaker 1: huge culture and like really just I would say, in
Speaker 1: many ways a response to the times as well, and
Speaker 1: as well as being a personal reflection and almost like
Speaker 1: a personal explanation. Yeah, and a way to sort of,
Speaker 1: um cinematically tell her story. I put it in quotes
Speaker 1: because you never really know what's true. But the beautiful
Speaker 1: thing about Lemonade is like she like it did serve
Speaker 1: as an explanation as to why she was staying with
Speaker 1: jay Z, but in a way like she'd fully closed
Speaker 1: herself off at that point in terms of like not
Speaker 1: doing any press, and it was like she kept it
Speaker 1: private while also publicly publicly controlling what the public saw,
Speaker 1: like I mean, the narrative around them and remaining queen. Incredible, incredible. Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: So number thirty two we have Disney Weddings in real
Speaker 1: life and the Disney Plus show What has Happened this Week?
Speaker 1: So this week I got into l A and you know,
Speaker 1: we were sitting around and we were thinking of something
Speaker 1: to watch, and then we put on Disney Plus went
Speaker 1: to the show. Disney Spairytail Weddings. Season one was on Freeform.
Speaker 1: Season two was on Disney Plus. And I can't even
Speaker 1: really put this into words Matt, can you help, Like,
Speaker 1: what is the special about this show? It's camp, yes,
Speaker 1: it's stock footage of Disney locations. It's character driven. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's really about the characters who appeared on the show
Speaker 1: and why they want to get married. And you are
Speaker 1: laughing at them in the beginning, but then by the
Speaker 1: end you are crying with them because you are just
Speaker 1: so moved. And it's purity, it's pure, and it's truly
Speaker 1: commercial budget. It's budget. It's a budget. It's purity. It's
Speaker 1: good intentions meets commercial masturbation in a way that it's
Speaker 1: just like I think it's funny because it's so manipulative,
Speaker 1: but I respect that about it, but you still enjoy
Speaker 1: in spite of that, and look like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: these people who are getting married in the Disney parks
Speaker 1: around on a Disney cruise or any Disney property at
Speaker 1: like six in the morning or two in the morning
Speaker 1: when the park's closed, are closed so that no one
Speaker 1: else is around, because of the parks used to be
Speaker 1: open every single day of the week at many hours
Speaker 1: the day. But you know, just to see these people
Speaker 1: like be go on this journey, I've never seen anything
Speaker 1: like it. I've never seen anything like a beat out
Speaker 1: lemonade by and the beat out lemonade by Beyond Site
Speaker 1: by one spot. Apologies to her, but you know who
Speaker 1: didn't make the list at all? Adele Um number thirty one,
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams fainting huge when she was dressed as the
Speaker 1: Statue of Liberty and took that humble I think we
Speaker 1: all had to ask what's going on? What's going and
Speaker 1: she was fine. She was fine, And Wendy's had a
Speaker 1: lot of moments. Let's just get that out of the way.
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, let's just say she said more problematic
Speaker 1: and done more problematic things than good. But we love
Speaker 1: her and we respect her, and we thank her for
Speaker 1: her recent apologies about what she said that guys should
Speaker 1: stop quote dressing up as us, and we just in her.
Speaker 1: In that very apology, she iconically misused the term beau vivan.
Speaker 1: She thought, you know, I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1: I don't know French. But when I hear the words boiv,
Speaker 1: I think, um, I think, you know, do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I forget what it was. But she fully makes up
Speaker 1: a definition for bone. Well, I don't believe that Wendy
Speaker 1: Williams does even a second of research where she gets
Speaker 1: on stage, and I think that's actually how I wanted
Speaker 1: to stay. I don't want Wendy Williams to change. I
Speaker 1: wanted to remain her having a understanding of all the
Speaker 1: things that she talks about. I think that's actually better
Speaker 1: because it's more reflective of how people actually talk. That's true,
Speaker 1: and I am actually behind what I'm saying. Thank you,
Speaker 1: um number thirty, Why did you do that? Why do
Speaker 1: that do all that? To me? You said in the
Speaker 1: car the other day. God has never gone harder on
Speaker 1: the song, never gone harder. I mean we were this
Speaker 1: sprang from the notion that I before, which is like God,
Speaker 1: it never goes, never pulls back. She's never settled on
Speaker 1: her song, but she has never like gone full maximalist
Speaker 1: as she has on Why did You do that? Never?
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever seen a second verse ripped
Speaker 1: into with such passion as because I have that I
Speaker 1: and then that ends in the iconic what are you
Speaker 1: doing it? I mean like it's just it's so unhinged
Speaker 1: and was such an effective part of the movie because
Speaker 1: you got in a second what kind of popstar? She
Speaker 1: had become. Later on, Diane Warren, the writer of the s,
Speaker 1: would say, actually, it wasn't supposed to be a joke.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be a real good pop song.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, she's so wrong and so right
Speaker 1: at the same time, which makes it a major success
Speaker 1: for me. Thank you and her iconic orange hair. Why
Speaker 1: did you do that? Is a roor shock test of
Speaker 1: pop music? And I mean we got Alcoball would saying,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Ali and you had Generosatano stage manager
Speaker 1: at SNL going Alecan five four three. I mean it
Speaker 1: was a moment and your family, my family, my family.
Speaker 1: The next is number twenty nine, season two finale. The
Speaker 1: amount of things that were happening in the grays Anatomy
Speaker 1: season two finale, it just made you appreciate what had
Speaker 1: been done all season long and the way that it
Speaker 1: closed some loops and stories left others open. He had
Speaker 1: Sandra Oh running to Preston Brook's hand and just doing
Speaker 1: a ballet the ballerina pose and just like staying there. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we have the death of um Danny. Danny had just happened,
Speaker 1: and is he making the realization that she needs to
Speaker 1: quit being a surgeon and leaving the cut right to well,
Speaker 1: I guess that puts an end citive. Yep. They leave,
Speaker 1: and then the iconic moment with Meredith Gray looking at Dr.
Speaker 1: Derek Shepard and the veterinarian played by Chris o'donald Finn
Speaker 1: Dandridge Wow, and they Finn Dandred and they both say
Speaker 1: Meredith as if they want the hair to come with them,
Speaker 1: and she just iconically looks up to this guy to
Speaker 1: those final notes of Chasing Cars by snow Patrol. And
Speaker 1: that was the moment that I knew that culture was
Speaker 1: for me. That was the moment that I nu culture
Speaker 1: was for me. I remember texting all my friends and
Speaker 1: I were calling him in it. And that was back
Speaker 1: in the day of minutes. It's been like, dude, you
Speaker 1: watch Grazon and God, I mean there, it doesn't get
Speaker 1: more two thousand six than that. I have to say
Speaker 1: that was a moment in time, and it's at twenty nine.
Speaker 1: It could very easily be higher. This is when it's
Speaker 1: starting to get tough. Yes, this is when it starts
Speaker 1: to get tough. And we are almost two hours in
Speaker 1: and I'm realizing now we're going to have to do
Speaker 1: a third episode of this. No, that's just the way
Speaker 1: it's going to have to be. And I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: our producers. You're gonna have to text me because we're
Speaker 1: not gonna We're gonna literally it's about to be a
Speaker 1: two hour episode. We can blast, No, we can't, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Number twenty eight, We're rain on rain on
Speaker 1: Me was a moment in culture that just happened. But
Speaker 1: you can't. It's here's what I think. It's ore, enough
Speaker 1: is enough, no more tears. It's yes, you're so right.
Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. I mean, rain on
Speaker 1: me when when we have Rainami tsunami in the same
Speaker 1: song as Ariana Grande is transition up in the end
Speaker 1: of the bridge. There's so much going on here. I'd
Speaker 1: rather redrive. But at least I'm alive. Rain on Me,
Speaker 1: rain on Me, water like misery. It's coming down on me.
Speaker 1: The a moment in culture, the duo that is Ariana
Speaker 1: and Gaga. I can I just say. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're doing great and I feel like we can just
Speaker 1: blast that. There is no way. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: There is no way? And you're wasting time here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to twenty five and then we're gonna stop
Speaker 1: number seven. Pumpkins spinning on New York. Go ahead, talk
Speaker 1: about this. This has been. This has been like the
Speaker 1: feud all season long and Flavor of Love season one,
Speaker 1: Pumpkin in New York just hating each other, New York
Speaker 1: waving a knife and Pumpkins face in the kitchen every
Speaker 1: day calling Pumpkin ugly, you know, all this stuff. Pumpkin
Speaker 1: gets eliminated, and New York is just tearing into her
Speaker 1: as she's doing her goodbye hugs, um, and then she's
Speaker 1: and then Pumpkins hugging Hoops, the eventual winner of a
Speaker 1: Flavor of Love season one. Hoops is telling her not
Speaker 1: to listen, not to engage with New York. New York
Speaker 1: is over there screaming at Pumpkin and telling her ugly
Speaker 1: she is, and of course it all escalates when Pumpkin says, actually,
Speaker 1: I could slap the ship out of you, and the
Speaker 1: iconic tamber on New York saying do it, slap me, bitch,
Speaker 1: and then the lugie that gets hopped and lands right
Speaker 1: on New York's chin and the just and they're propelling
Speaker 1: that that New York that just as like you see
Speaker 1: her soul sort of and her body goes with it.
Speaker 1: It's motherfucking do you see that, bitch? Fucking spit my
Speaker 1: motherfucking fifth witch. I will take you out. What a
Speaker 1: moment it was, truly, it started something. It started a
Speaker 1: conversation amongst reality show villains past and presence in the future,
Speaker 1: and it said, this is the bar. Come see me
Speaker 1: up here, Come see me up here, because you weren't
Speaker 1: even sure who was the villain in that situation, but
Speaker 1: we know it was New York, and you know you
Speaker 1: love New York. I had not heard of New York
Speaker 1: until the tim and I heard of Tiffany Pollard until
Speaker 1: this bit happened. Everyone at school is talking about. I
Speaker 1: was like, I have to go to someone's house, who
Speaker 1: has cable, who has beach one, and I have to
Speaker 1: watch this to the point where I would go on
Speaker 1: business trips with my dad just so I could stay
Speaker 1: in the hotel room and watch marathons. A flavor of
Speaker 1: love that is deep, this one. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was obsessed with New York. This is huge. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it well because I'm taking my time talking
Speaker 1: about New York. Because I guess we're doing a third episode. No,
Speaker 1: we are. What do what do you have to say
Speaker 1: about New York? What do I say about New York?
Speaker 1: I mean an original, someone that I think was probably
Speaker 1: destined to become famous in the Star and got there.
Speaker 1: And I think that ultimately with New York, what you
Speaker 1: have is someone who usurped even Flavor and she I
Speaker 1: think is omar Rosa esque in this fashion, because I
Speaker 1: believe that by the time omar Rosa is dead, she'll
Speaker 1: be more famous in Villainous than Donald too. I have.
Speaker 1: I want to That's an amazing, amazing prediction. I want
Speaker 1: to see really quickly that New York. I mean all
Speaker 1: a Flavor of Love seasons wanted to fill the transphobic
Speaker 1: you know, insult you look like a man. You look
Speaker 1: like man. Even New York at some points was was
Speaker 1: saying this to people. Pumpkin Um not excluded, but the
Speaker 1: season two reunion of Flavor of Love, New York shows
Speaker 1: up your Boots, Buck, wild Um and Delicious all going
Speaker 1: crazy as soon as they see New York at the reunion,
Speaker 1: and then Boots especially being like screaming at New York,
Speaker 1: you look like a drag queen. You look like a
Speaker 1: drag queen. Instead of being offended, New York goes yes,
Speaker 1: and It's fabulous, embraces it. Yes and it's fabulous, does
Speaker 1: not like see it as a queer queer was like yes,
Speaker 1: and and and It's fabulous. Queer icon erect a statue
Speaker 1: of New York in front of stone Wall. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and now for the last one for this episode number
Speaker 1: twenty six, Assa Edwards versus shut Up and Drive. To
Speaker 1: shut up and drive and and to know that they
Speaker 1: both won the lip sync at the end after truly
Speaker 1: deserving to the look on Tatiana's face and she realized
Speaker 1: that she wanted to look on and they realized they
Speaker 1: both want to look one's face. The look on Fifie's face,
Speaker 1: the face crack. Honestly, this was a moment in time.
Speaker 1: It was two queens who were going for it out
Speaker 1: of the joy of being dragged. Means they both had
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. Flips kicks, twirls. Hair. There was so
Speaker 1: much good hair in that performance. I think one of
Speaker 1: the best lip syncs of all time because he had
Speaker 1: Tatiana in the white get up and illicit and like
Speaker 1: the black version with the similar hair. Visual opposites, visual opposites,
Speaker 1: and then they both got brought back into the competition.
Speaker 1: It was so satisfying. And to have Fifi leave, to
Speaker 1: have them both vote for Fifi unbelievable. When All Stars
Speaker 1: was All Stars. Oh my god, that is the lip
Speaker 1: sync to show someone. If you want to show someone
Speaker 1: how a lip sync is turned on, that is the
Speaker 1: one to do. Okay. So that is part two of
Speaker 1: Spectacular Tops in culture History. Parentheses are two. Part two.
Speaker 1: There will be a part three, which was a twist
Speaker 1: that was even revealed to us during the episode. And
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about it? I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a conversation with um head of Content Haunts executive
Speaker 1: producer Anna Engineer Doug about scheduling. You know, I did
Speaker 1: not anticipate a third part to this. I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't think I thought we'd get all this stunnen in
Speaker 1: one episode. Do you remember the days, Remember the days
Speaker 1: of us thinking we could fly through this in one episode,
Speaker 1: but we're just too chatter boxing in Oh my God.
Speaker 1: By the time this is over, it will be on
Speaker 1: Iconic Feed. And now I think that when we have
Speaker 1: the twenty five in their own episode, we can spend
Speaker 1: my time. And it's about the readers. It's about the readers,
Speaker 1: five divided by one twenty. Let's say that's a that's
Speaker 1: a two hour episode. That is okay, Like I can't
Speaker 1: do the math right now, but let's just this. This
Speaker 1: is what has not changed. Number one is number one
Speaker 1: is still number one reason And we're gonna look at
Speaker 1: the list and we're gonna see if every thing is
Speaker 1: in its right place. Yes, because actually it's it's actually
Speaker 1: a kind of iconic what can happen. Things can be
Speaker 1: nothing can be taken from, but things from the top
Speaker 1: twenty five can change and can be even taken out
Speaker 1: and new things at it in Yeah, and you'd be
Speaker 1: surprised how much you forget. And that's actually culture, it's
Speaker 1: ruler culture number six. You'd be surprised how much do
Speaker 1: you forget? I can't wait. I'm honestly very happy you
Speaker 1: made this call. I should never doubt your judgment. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be huge. And before the clock stike strikes
Speaker 1: two hours, we're going to finish out with a song
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see you tomorrow. And that song is
Speaker 1: I Get you Away You want to go? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I gotta rad. That's more than a
Speaker 1: limousine got my hell got go from zero sixty three
Speaker 1: point that baby, you got the key. Shut up and
Speaker 1: drive drive drive, drive, shut up and drive drive Charrow
Speaker 1: h