1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one to four o'clock. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Listen to the podcast. It's posted after four o'clock. Much 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: of the time. We've been covering the fire because they 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: named the suspect this morning thing, Jonathan rinderknocked. He has 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: been apprehended. They caught him in Florida. He was a 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Palisades resident, an uber driver, and on New Year's Eve night, 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: just past midnight, so it was officially New Year's Day. 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: He started the fire with a lighter. The LA Fire 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Department put it out on New Year's Day after a 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: few hours, but it was still smoldering in the vegetation 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: and in the root structure underground. So when the winds 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: hit on January seventh, it whipped it up into a 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: second fire. Fire was not set on the seventh. It 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: was set on the first, but Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: neglected to have a crew there, which should be standard 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: operating pat practice. I mean, there's an assistant former assistant 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: fire chief for LA speaking in the New York Times 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: that this is what you do. 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: You have a crew and. 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: You monitor it to put it out completely, even if 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: you have to dig up the ground and get at 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: the roots. But nobody did it, so it blew up. 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: And remember we had nobody running the city because Karen 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: Bass went to Africa. The deputy mayor in charge of 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: police and fire, he was in his house on leave 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: because he called it a bomb threat. 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: And there was nobody in charge. 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: And the fire department is only half funded, and they 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: didn't have a crew there at the side of the 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: original fire. So this is what happened, complete failure. Names 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: have to be named, and I just gave two of 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: them to you. Bass Crowley and Genie Kiz who'd ever 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: filled up the reservoir? Hydrants were dry, reservoir was dry, 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: no fire crew to monitor the hot spot, which should 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: be standard. It seems right. There was nobody holding meetings, 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: nobody was on alert. Let's talk now with Sayed Kashani. 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: He's an attorney who has to keep track of all 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: this because his house burned too in the Palisades, and 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: he's in the past has shown up at public meetings. 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: He's come on our show and told us about what 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: he's experienced at these meetings and his own investigations. He's done, sayid, welcome, 44 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: how are. 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: You hello, John, Good to be on your show again. 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Well, what's what's your reaction to this? 47 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: Well, well, number one, this goes back to something we 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: talked about three months ago when we said that the 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: only independent investigation of this fire is going to be 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: a federal investigation by the federal government because the state, 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: the county, the city, all their hands are unclean and 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: they're not going to do an independent investigation. And we've 53 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: seen that the city investigation is stalled, not released, the 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: county isn't doing anything. The state promised an investigation but nothing. 55 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Only the federal government has gone forward and done this 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: independent investigation and gotten down to the cause of the fire. 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: So my hat's off to them. That's really good investigative 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: work that they did. And by the way, give a 59 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: shout out to the local US attorney. He's a young man, 60 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: but he's obviously doing an excellent job and he's going 61 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: up against a real power structure. 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Great. 63 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: Yes, he's been on our show many times back when 64 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: he was in the legislature. Yeah, he's terrific. If everybody 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: did their job like a sale does his job, we'd 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: be in a far, far better place in this state. 67 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely now number two. As many people believed this was, 68 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: and they complained. The federal complaint calls it a holdover fire, 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: meaning that this is a reignition of the same fire 70 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: that was started on New Year's Eve. And that goes 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: to the second point, which is the land that this 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: fire reignited on. The land owner is responsible. Now I've 73 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: looked at the maps. I've looked at the assessor's maps. 74 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: It's not clear if that land is owned by the 75 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: state or the county, whoever owns it, but the landowner 76 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: is responsible. Let me give you an example. 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you Roger Bailey, the attorney representing a 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: lot of homeowners. He says, it's state land. 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: That appears to be the case. It's hard a pinpoint. 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: There's a pinpoint reignition point on the federal complaint. Assuming 81 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: that is the reignition point, it's a little hard to 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: tell who owns that, but it's definitely some government entity. 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: Here's my point. If there's a fire on my land 84 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: and I didn't even cause the fire, If I don't 85 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: put that fire out and it reignites and spreads, so 86 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: we adjoining landowners I'm responsible, even though I didn't start 87 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: the fire, because I'm responsible as a landowner to control 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: threats on my property and not allow them to spread. 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: Another thing that this federal complaint said is that this 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: fire reignited in quote dense vegetation unquote. Why is there 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: dense vegetation on government owned land within one hundred yards 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: of homes? Now, you know, if you own property anywhere 93 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: in the city, you get a notice every year, several 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: notices and fines and penalties from the fire department saying 95 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: you better clear your brush. I personally, as a landowner, 96 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: spent thousands and thousands of dollars just last year clearing 97 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: the brush on our land. But it looks like the 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: government whoever owned this property, wasn't doing anything to clear anything. 99 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: And we're not talking about land in the middle of 100 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: nowhere or ten miles from habitation. The mission point of 101 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: the fire, according to the map, was within one hundred 102 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: yards of homes. So why is it their dense vegetation 103 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: in this area? And three, just like you said, there 104 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: should have been a firewatch. This land should have been 105 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: completely cleared and dug up, and there should have been 106 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: no chance for the fire to reignite. I grew up 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: in Lacannata. I don't know if people remember, but in 108 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: the seventies in the eighties used to see running up 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: the hills, wide, kind of white. They looked like roads. 110 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: These were completely cleared fireblocks. Anytime there was a fire, 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: they would clear a swath of land thirty forty fifty 112 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: feet wide whatever it was, going all the way up 113 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: the hill to prevent the fire from spreading. Nothing like 114 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: that was done here. It was just okay, we put 115 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: the fire out. Obviously it wasn't put out, and then 116 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: it reignited on government land. Well, it seems to me 117 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: that a lot of people have to answer for that. 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to start. There's way to get names. 119 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: Who at the state. Let's assume for now that it 120 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: is state land where this vegetation was very thick, and 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: that's where the fire originally started and was never put 122 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: out entirely. Who is the person who should have sent 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: the crew in to get rid of the vegetation? You know, 124 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: who is in charge of not having a state fire 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: crew monitor the smoldering ruins? 126 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: Well, the specific department, Assuming that this is the state 127 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: land as opposed to the county or another entity called 128 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: the San Monica Conservancy Mountain Conservancy. But assuming this is 129 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: a state land, the specific agency is the Department of Parks, 130 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: the state Department of Parks, and you'll see that entity 131 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: named in a number of the losses that was filed 132 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: because they are the ones who are responsible for fire control. 133 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: They are the ones who are responsible, like any landowner 134 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: is responsible to prevent fires, to bring the vegetation down, 135 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: and more importantly, to prevent fires from reignite. 136 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: Right, and remember we had two very wet years that 137 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: preceded a drier year last year, so obviously there was 138 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: a lot of thick vegetation that had grown and there 139 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: should have been crews working all summer and fall, you know, 140 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: once the rainy season ended in it would have been 141 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, then they should have spent months and 142 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: months clearing out the vegetation. Never did well. Who decided 143 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: not to do that? 144 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I mean we again, it needs 145 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: more investigation trying to see who made those decisions. It's 146 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: not quite forestry management, so it's not that that part 147 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: of the department, but this is land that's administered by 148 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: the Department of Parks and their trails hiking trails that 149 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: run through that. It's under their jurisdiction, and they have 150 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: Here's something interesting, the California Department of Parks has very 151 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: stringent fire regulations in terms of what's allowed, what's not allowed, 152 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: how to deal with camp, how they're supposed to be 153 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: put out. And one thing we have to look at 154 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 3: is where these regulations followed. Did they even followed regulations? 155 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: Did they even have a person on site on their 156 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: land to determine if there was a fire or a 157 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: fire danger on their land. I think the answer is 158 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: to all those questions are no. 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: All right said, keep investigating. When you find out stuff, 160 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: let us know. We'll put you on again. 161 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: All right, all right, well, thank you very much, John, 162 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: appreciate the opportunity. 163 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: Si Ed Kashani, attorney from the Palisade who lost his 164 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: home as well. Still to come, we're gonna have Carl Demayo. 165 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: He's got many locations all over southern California up and 166 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: running today where you can go and sign a petition 167 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: to get the Voter ID Act on the ballots so 168 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: that we all have to show ID before we vote. 169 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: And also you can collect materials to campaign for no 170 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: on Prop fifty, which is that stupid redistricting idea for 171 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: Congress that Newsome has been sponsoring and spending hundreds of 172 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: millions of dollars on. Boy, they got money for that, 173 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: No money for vegetation. That was state land. And where's 174 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom? 175 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: Now? 176 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: How come he's not preening about the vegetation not being 177 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: cleared and not having a state fire force in addition 178 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: to an LA fire force monitoring the original fire site. Huh, 179 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: he's not preening over that terrible job which led to 180 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: all this destruction. 181 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 182 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: six forty. 183 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: We just have a couple of minutes when we come 184 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: back after three point thirty, though, it's going to be 185 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: it's going to be Carl Demyo because he's got many 186 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: locations in southern California where you could sign a petition 187 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: to get California voter ID on the ballot. So we 188 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: have to show ID before we vote and also collect No. 189 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: One Prop fifty campaign materials to derail this stupid redistricting 190 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: idea from Gavin Newsom. I do want to play a 191 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: clip from Bill A Sale this morning, the US Attorney 192 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: because I want to focus on the guy who started 193 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: the fire. Jonathan rinderknocked and what he was doing on 194 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve into New Year's morning driving an Uber 195 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: before he had a lighter that started the fire and 196 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: it was partially put out and then revived itself. Anyway, 197 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: Cut three if you could play cut three, this is 198 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: bill a sale. 199 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: Late last New Year's Eve, Rinderneck returned to Pacific Palisades 200 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: after working the evening shift as an Uber driver. Two 201 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,239 Speaker 5: of his passengers told law enforcement that he appeared agitated 202 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: and angry that night. After dropping off at Passenger in 203 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 5: Pacific Palisades, Rinderneck parked his car and tried and failed 204 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: to contact a former friend. He exited the car, walked 205 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: up a nearby trail, took iPhone videos at a nearby hilltop, 206 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: and listened to a rap song whose music video including 207 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 5: objects being lit on fire. The defendant had listened to 208 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: this song and watched its music video repeatedly in the 209 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: days leading up to the Lochman fire. Twelve minutes into 210 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: the New Year, environmental sensing platforms indicated that. 211 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: A fire had started. 212 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 5: It took the defendant several tries to contact nine to 213 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 5: one one to report the fire. He fled the scene 214 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: in his car, but turned around after passing fire engines 215 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: driving in the opposite direction to fight the fire. While 216 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: the Lochman fire burned, the defendant walked up the same 217 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 5: trail from earlier that night to watch the fire and firefighters, 218 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: using his iPhone to take short videos of the scene. 219 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 5: Although firefighters suppressed the blaze, the fire continued to smolder 220 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: and burn underground within the root structure of the dense vegetation. 221 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 5: So that fire started on January first, and it smoldered 222 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: underground for about a week until on January seventh, heavy 223 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: winds caused this underground fire to surface and spread above ground, 224 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: causing what became known as the Palisades fired. 225 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: That is a great summary of what happened from beginning 226 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: to end. Now, is there a mister and missus render knocked? 227 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: Because this sleeves ball was only twenty nine years old 228 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: and he was a local guy. A bunch of stupid, 229 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: lazy headline riders around the country are saying Florida man, 230 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: which I know is the funny cliche Florida man. Again, 231 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: it's not a Florida man. He escaped to Florida after 232 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: the FEDS showed up at his home here in the 233 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: Palisades to let him know they were on to him. 234 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Asked him a number of questions and he lied with 235 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: his answers, which led to extra charges. So he was 236 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: in the Palisades before and after he was riding the 237 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: uber locally, he was dropping people off New Year's Eve 238 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: night in the Palisades. I don't know what he lived 239 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: in an apartment of house? Is there a render knocked family? 240 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: Who raised this psycho? 241 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Why did he call nine to one one numerous times? 242 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I know he was never able to get through, but 243 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: why did he? Why was he calling nine to one one? 244 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: They do that occasionally, and it's a weird psychosis, but 245 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: they really are proud of their work, and they sometimes 246 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: want to see the fire department work. Investigators in an 247 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: arson case will look at bystanders to see who's watching, 248 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: because they want to see their fire burning and they 249 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: want to watch it being put out by the fire department. 250 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: And they often go and watch television coverage at home. 251 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: And I know this is going to grocy out, but 252 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: it's true. They also get sexual gratifications sometimes, so they 253 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: go home and they indulge. While true they do, how 254 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: do you know, well, because it's you could you could 255 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: look up. It's a scientific phenomenon. I don't know. I 256 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: don't I've never been in the home with a pyromaniac 257 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: and watched them go at it, but they do so. 258 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a real sickness. 259 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: But somebody raised this guy, and I don't think he was, 260 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, the normal guy in high school from the 261 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: looks of him. I was fascinated by the family lives 262 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: of these characters. And did the parents know that they, 263 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: you know, had a bad seed? All right, we come back. 264 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: We do talk with Carl Demayo, uh for a couple 265 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: of minutes about his rallies all over the southern California, 266 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna play Katie Porter. I have been 267 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: waiting for this all day. Katie Porter, who gave an 268 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: interview to a local CBS reporter up in northern California. 269 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: And it was a simple list of questions that the reporter, 270 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: Julie Watts, was asking all the gubernatorial candidates. Porter is 271 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: the number one candidate in the polls, but she's well 272 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: known to be nuts and she proved it here in 273 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: this interview. We'll play it for you. That's next. 274 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 275 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: six forty. 276 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: We're going to play Katie Porter, the leading candidate for 277 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: governor here in California, having a big meltdown on TV. 278 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: We'll play the audio of that coming up. But first 279 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: Carl Demile, Republican Assemblymen. He runs Reform California and he 280 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: has rallies all over the state, and he'll tell you 281 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: why why are people lighting up at these sites all 282 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: over southern California. 283 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 6: Now, It's because we're fighting to defend fair elections. And 284 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 6: that means there's two things we need to do. Number One, 285 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 6: we've got to turn out the vote for no on 286 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 6: Prop fifty Gaven Newsom's corruptory districting scheme. And the second 287 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: thing we need to do is we need to really 288 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 6: improve our elections by getting the California Voter ID Initiative 289 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 6: on the ballot. This, you know, through a signature drive 290 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 6: a million signatures is what we need to do. California 291 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 6: Voter ID, make it the law of the land, and 292 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 6: to really improve the integrity of our elections. So at 293 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 6: rallies this afternoon and all the way through the remainder 294 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: of October, we are doing seventy two rallies and events 295 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 6: up and down the state of California at lots in 296 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 6: southern California. And I'm going to be in the Inland 297 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 6: Empire tonight in Rancho Cucamonga at six o'clock for a 298 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 6: massive rally, and people can sign up to come to 299 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 6: that rally or any of the ones nearest them by 300 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 6: going to the website voter id Initiative dot com voter 301 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 6: id Initiative dot com. If you can't make it to 302 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 6: one of our rallies, please at least sign the petition 303 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: up there at that website voter id Initiative dot com. 304 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 6: And also if you can collect signatures from your friends, 305 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 6: I will mail you a volunteer petition pack or I'll 306 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 6: give it to you at one of these events, including 307 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 6: tonight at Voteridinitiative dot com. All the informations up there. 308 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 6: We need everyone involved in this john because the politicians 309 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 6: like to manipulate the elections through things like Prop fifty 310 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: and not having an adequate review of identities of people voting. 311 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: We want trust and confidence in our elections. No matter 312 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: who wins, people should know that it was fair and 313 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 6: can be trusted and in order to do that, we've 314 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 6: got to get this campaign and be successful. 315 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: All right, Carl, I'll talk with you again soon. Thank you, 316 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: thank you. All right, it's Carl Demayel. Now Katie Porter. 317 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: She's inexplicably at the top of the field. When you 318 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: look at Paul's for California governor, Missus potato Head is 319 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: number one. Former congresswoman, she ran for Senate, lost to 320 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: add and Steve Garvey, and now she's running for governor. 321 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: And you know, there's about I don't know eight candidates 322 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: and she's got the most name recognition and she's on top. 323 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: She's historically is known as being a very bad tempered person. 324 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: So she's doing an interview. It's a sit down interview 325 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: with CBS News correspondent Julie Watts, who's based in California, 326 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: and Julie Watts is interviewing all the main candidates for 327 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: governor and asking him the same set of questions. And 328 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: you'll hear that we're going to play a three minute clip, 329 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: which is certainly crazy on the internet. 330 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: She's asking. 331 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: She's asking Katie Porter if she supports Newsom's Prop fifty, 332 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: which of course will leave almost the entire state without 333 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: a Republican congressman. Ninety three percent of the congress people 334 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: from California are going to be Democrats if this new 335 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: something passes, And she says, well, do you support that? 336 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean, because you know forty percent of the state 337 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 2: are Trump voters, and you understand the context here in 338 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: the primary, Republicans and Democrats are all running together. It's 339 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: called the jungle primary, so you can end up with 340 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: two Democrats in the top two positions, or two Republicans 341 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: or a Democrat Republican, and the top two go on 342 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: to November. So when you're running in a field of 343 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: eight or ten people, you might need Republican votes because 344 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: you could have a candidate who's even farther left than 345 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: Katie Porter. And Katie's got to look around if she 346 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: doesn't have enough votes to maybe getting some moderate votes, 347 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: some Trump voters. And the reporter was wondering, hey, aren't 348 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: you really writing off all the Trump supporters by going 349 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 2: with Newsom's prop fifty. Well, things devolved because Julie Watts 350 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: did what reporters are supposed to do, follow up questions. 351 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: So let's let's play this clip. It's about three minutes. 352 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Listen to this because I haven't seen anybody running for 353 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: major office do this. 354 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 7: In an interview redistricting? What do you think of the 355 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 7: governor's plan? 356 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 8: I support the governor's plan. 357 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: What do you say to the forty percent of California 358 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 7: voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted 359 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 7: for Trump? 360 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 8: How would I need them in order to win? 361 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: So? 362 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 7: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent 363 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 7: of the vote with all, everybody who did not vote 364 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 7: for Trump will vote for you, that's what you're in. 365 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 8: A general election. 366 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 9: Yes, if it is me versus a Republican, I think 367 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 9: that I will win the people who did not. 368 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 10: Vote for What if it's you versus another Democrat? 369 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 8: I don't intend that to be the case. 370 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 10: So how do you not intend that to be the case? 371 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: You do? 372 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: You? 373 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 10: Are you going to ask them not to run? 374 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 7: No? 375 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 9: No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I 376 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 9: have the support already in terms of name recognition, and 377 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 9: so I'm going to do the very best I can 378 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 9: to make sure that we get through this primary in 379 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 9: a really strong position. But let me be clear with you. 380 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 9: I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I 381 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 9: have stood on my own two feet and. 382 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 8: One Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate and 383 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 8: this race can say. 384 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 9: If you're from a deep blue area, if you're from 385 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 9: LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have an. 386 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 10: Experience, then you don't need those Trump voters. 387 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 8: So you asked me if I need them to win? 388 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 8: So you don't think like this is unnecessarily argumentative. What 389 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 8: is your question? 390 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 7: The question is the same thing I asked everybody that 391 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 7: this is being called the empowering voters. 392 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 10: To stop Trump's power grap Every other candidate has answered 393 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 10: this question. This is not argument I support it. So 394 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 10: and the question is what do you say to. 395 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 7: The forty percent of voters who voted for Trump? 396 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 9: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you 397 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 9: need them to win part that I don't understand. 398 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 8: I'm happy to answer the ques answer. The question is 399 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 8: you haven't written in all answer. 400 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 10: And we've also asked. 401 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 7: The other candidates do you think you need any of 402 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 7: those forty percent of California voters to win? 403 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 10: And you're saying no, you don't. 404 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 9: No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every 405 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 9: vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is 406 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 9: that well to those voters. Okay, so you I don't want. 407 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 8: To keep doing this, I'm going to call it. 408 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. 409 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 10: You're not going to do the interview with us. 410 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 8: No, it's not like this. I'm not not with sevenfold 411 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 8: to every single. 412 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 7: Question you ask, every other candidate has answered, Caralis. 413 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 8: I don't care. 414 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 9: I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation, which you 415 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 9: asked me about every issue on this list. And if 416 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 9: every question you're going to make up a follow up question, 417 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 9: then we're never going to get there. 418 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 8: We're just going to circle around. I am an investigative, 419 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 8: had to do this before ever. 420 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 7: You've never had to have a conversation in order. 421 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 10: Okay, but every other candidate has done this. 422 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 9: What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because 423 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 9: I'm a leader, So I am going to make so. 424 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 7: You're not going to answer questions from reporters. 425 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 10: Okay, why don't we go through? 426 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 7: I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's 427 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 7: my job as a journalist. But I will go through 428 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 7: and ask these and if you don't want to answer, 429 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 7: you don't want to answer. 430 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 10: So nearly every legislative. 431 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 8: I don't want to have an unhappy experience for you. 432 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 8: I don't want this on one camera. 433 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 7: I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. 434 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 7: I would love to continue to ask these questions so 435 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 7: that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels 436 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 7: about everyone these issues that they care. 437 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 10: About and readistorting. It's a massive issue. 438 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 7: We're going to do an entire story just on the 439 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 7: responses to that question and have asked everybody the same 440 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 7: follow up questions. 441 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: I've never heard anything like that. She supports Prop fifty, 442 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: which is a big FU to anybody who votes Republican, 443 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: anybody who votes for Trump. It is I mean, you know, 444 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: News has been clear about that this is an FU if. 445 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: This is the big middle finger. And so the reporter 446 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: Julie Watts is saying, well, what if you need Republican votes? 447 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to need them, are you sure? 448 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: Because it could be two Democrats in November and maybe 449 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: the other Democrat is farther to the left and more 450 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: popular than Katie, And then what do you do? Oh, 451 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure that doesn't happen. How are 452 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: you going to make sure that the number two slot 453 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: isn't a Democrat? 454 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: How are you going to do that. 455 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: It may not be it maybe, but why would you 456 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: start off by giving the middle thing to over forty percent? 457 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, does that forty percent have any 458 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: rights at all? Or if you vote for Trump, you've 459 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: lost all your rights. In California, you can't have a 460 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: Republican congressman. It'll be ninety three percent Democratic congressman. If 461 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: Prop fifty passes. That's obviously not fair if forty percent 462 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: of the state votes for Republicans. But she either didn't 463 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: understand how the primary election and the general election works. 464 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: She doesn't understand that she very well could need Republican votes. 465 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: And you have to see her facial expressions. I want 466 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: to have a positive experience. She's crazy. We call her 467 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: missus potato Head. When we come back, we'll explain why, 468 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: and she will be Missus potato Head every time she's 469 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: in the news from now till Election Day. 470 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 471 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: six forty. 472 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: After four o'clock, we'll have the podcast John Show on demand. 473 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: Quite a bit on the fire suspect and cooling. Interviews 474 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: with two attorneys, one who's leading a big lawsuit representing 475 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: many Pacific Palisades residents and another attorney who suffered his 476 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: own loss, and he's been investigating as well. You gotta 477 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: hear all the coverage show that we did. Now before 478 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: we go, we just played Katie Porter, and we'll return 479 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: to this tomorrow as well, because it's pretty rich. Katie 480 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: Porter is inexplicably the top candidate for governor. As soon 481 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: as another empty, empty headed idiot Knla Harris dropped out, 482 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: Katie Porter made her way to the top, and she 483 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: got into a dispute with a CBS reporter in Northern 484 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: California because the reporter kept pressing, aren't you worried that 485 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 2: you're going to be writing off all of the Trump voters, 486 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: all the Republican voters when you run for governor because 487 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: you're coming out in favor of Newsom's Prop fifty, which 488 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: gets rid of nearly all the Republican congress people. And 489 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: Porter was talking like she she's need Republican voters, and 490 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: the reporter said, well, you might eat depending on how 491 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: the primary goes. 492 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: Katie Porter's got a bad temper. She's a crazy person. 493 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: She's known as missus potato Head because in her divorce 494 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: documents she was married to a guy named Matthew Hoffman 495 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: who filed for divorce from Porter in twenty thirteen, and 496 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: he had to get a restraining order against her, dated 497 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: April thirtieth of that year, claiming he was routinely called 498 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: an effing idiot and an effing incompetent by Katie Porter. 499 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: She also shattered a glass coffee pot on their kitchen 500 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: counter when she felt their house wasn't clean enough March 501 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: of twenty twelve. She threw toys, books, and other objects 502 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: at him during their marriage, and Katie Porter poured scalding 503 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: hot mashed potatoes on his head during a fight. This 504 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: was all in the public court records for the divorce. 505 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: She poured scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head at 506 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: the dinner table in front of their kids or kid 507 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how many they had. She actually did this. 508 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: So her staff is always leaking stories about how impossible 509 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: and angry she is. 510 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: They're going to elect her. These were the choices. 511 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: We go from Jerry Brown to Newsom to Kamala Harris 512 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: was leading in the polls to now Katie Porter, missus 513 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: potato head government her potato head. 514 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: You heard she can't take any follow up questions. I 515 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: want to have a positive experience. 516 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: You're running for governor. You can't take follow up questions. 517 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: They are so coddled. Newsom's like this too, he can't 518 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: take follow up questions. He starts stammering and stuttering and 519 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: thumpering because they have no immune system. They've never been criticized, 520 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: they've never been challenged. And Julie Wats from CBS challenged her, 521 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: and not even all that severely. There's a legitimate question. 522 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: You're writing off all the Republican voters. You sure you 523 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: want to do that? By the way, do any of 524 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: these people want to be the governor for the forty 525 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: percent that doesn't vote for Democrats? No, you have no 526 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: rights anymore. You can't have any Congress people. So we'll 527 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: talk more about this tomorrow. We're going to be back. 528 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: Oh we got Bill o'relly on tomorrow too. Bill o'relly 529 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: be Bill o'relli because he's got a book out and 530 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: he's appearing on a news nation town hall and Conway's 531 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: up next. And who's doing the news and where are 532 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: they doing the news? Because I see the news booth 533 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: is unmas It looks like an air traffic controller office. 534 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: All right, now Mike has sat down in the chair. 535 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: I think we want to land a plane here. He's 536 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: certainly enjoying himself. He's laughing with someone in the hallway, 537 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: and now he's looking into the camera, and now he's 538 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: looking back out into the hallway. 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