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Speaker 1: ba fan, welcome back to Brown Ambition. I am. I

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Speaker 1: genuinely was giddy about coming to today show, which I'm

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Speaker 1: sure for my guests who's probably just like ough Again.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited. I missed Brown Ambition. I'm miss

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Speaker 1: talking to other humans. I even missed this gentleman here, Hi, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Well, it must be the holidays, because you're being so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I miss your bud. I mean we did get

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Speaker 1: road trip up and down the East Coast with your

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Speaker 1: of chaos and said, Hi, really nice.

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Speaker 2: You know. I was like, I can't be all the

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Speaker 2: it was like it was it was nice for week.

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Speaker 2: We got to catch up. You also were freshed my

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Speaker 2: love visiting other people's kids and like saying, oh, hey,

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Speaker 2: how's it going. I made paper airplanes. We were two.

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Speaker 1: Point five seconds. You were making airplanes for my five

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Speaker 1: good adopted uncle. No, it's been Thanksgiving was a time

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Speaker 1: Know, I'm saying exactly and like you should be chilling here.

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Speaker 4: So speaking of family, two of my nieces have birthdays

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Speaker 3: So you know, this is where I'm sipping my tea

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think a tea should be allowed.

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Speaker 4: We were in New Jersey on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: Like I love my baby way better. So I got

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Speaker 4: And then we had a photographer come and take pictures,

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I love you like activities. There's like there's thing

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Speaker 4: I put my that I had like a activity to

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Speaker 3: I have ten nieces and nephew.

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Speaker 4: So what I did was I drew on butcher paper

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Speaker 4: like all these thingsgiving them things like plants and like

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Speaker 3: The perfect thing, just keep them busy.

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Speaker 4: And then on the other side it was like the photography,

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Speaker 1: Nice, you're such a good auntie.

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Speaker 2: That's the exact episode what we were talking about. My

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Speaker 1: No, let's hold, we have to hold space, hold space

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Speaker 4: No, I appreciate that, especially after the chaos of having

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Speaker 4: So I planned a bunch of games. So I had, like,

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Speaker 1: So I honestly it's.

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Speaker 4: A good and also it gives me the other games

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Speaker 3: Those for Christmas. So you know, it worked out, It

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Speaker 1: I love it. I always get a little emotional around

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving because we typically don't go home for back home,

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Speaker 3: Know what is always childproof?

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Speaker 4: Though that's so far because I think it's covered plastics.

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Speaker 3: She heard the kids would come in.

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Speaker 1: She was like, I know, yeah, yeah, no, it was lovely.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: Did y'all do any like Black Friday and today is

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Speaker 1: technically Cyber Monday shopping?

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Speaker 2: I was old series didn't even exist anymore. I was

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Speaker 1: The giant TVs on sales or whatever?

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Speaker 2: I don't like Black Friday anymore. So that's why I

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Speaker 3: It's got to be like in store only deals, right,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is holiday like a couple of

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Speaker 2: Okay, people were just it was out there, thousands upon

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Speaker 1: Did y'all get inflation checks out there in California like

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Speaker 3: My dad was asking me add Thanksgiving dinner. He was like,

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Speaker 4: He's like, no, check my check my account and see

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Speaker 3: That's not a federal Listen. They got people up in

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Speaker 1: We sent eight million inflation refund checks. My neighbor got mine.

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Speaker 4: But me and my neighbor, because people have been talking about, oh,

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Speaker 1: Man, they're thinking about the COVID stimulus checks where it

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Speaker 2: I can't get anything. I haven't heard anything about it though,

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Speaker 2: maybe if it's going out, nobody I know has goot.

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Speaker 3: He said, I didn't get one. Listen, I'm waiting in line,

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Speaker 2: Not at the citadel. No, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's crazy how everybody kept talking about how

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Speaker 4: like the tower off making prices go up. Inflation has

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Speaker 4: Everything is so high. People can't afford homes all this stuff,

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Speaker 3: High, record high period in history. Where y'all getting this

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Speaker 3: I didn't buy a thing. Actually that's a lie.

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Speaker 4: Two days before Chris, two days before Thanksgiving, or like

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Speaker 3: One and I was like, okay, you see now I

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Speaker 4: And then they had another little deal for some reason,

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Speaker 4: All I know is I got my Levi' jeans, which

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Speaker 3: To just donate them, throw them out, because the day a.

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Speaker 1: Pair of jeans come on, now, well you live in Miami,

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Speaker 3: Living at leisure. I went short skirts, dresses, shorts.

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Speaker 4: But there's this one pair of jeans that I love

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Speaker 3: Hole in there. It looked like somebody shot me in

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Speaker 4: You know how it is with the I don't even

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Speaker 4: So it was time to replace them and I did,

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Speaker 3: My draw hit the ground.

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Speaker 4: Where are people coming? We love to complain, complain, complain,

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Speaker 4: I don't have money for this. I don't money for that.

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Speaker 3: Y'all got money for Black Friday? Where's the money coming from?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know what's scary is the data I think came

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking credit card companies, how many of us

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Speaker 1: I thought we was boycotting. I was in my boycotting bag.

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Speaker 1: I told my husband, in no uncertain terms, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: And oh, that's way bigger than I thought you were

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Speaker 1: The short little ones were like fifty bucks, which to me,

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Speaker 4: Because people be buying plants that'd be fifty dollars seventy five,

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Speaker 1: Plants are prime true coming pots. They have roots. True,

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Speaker 4: It is dead, but it is also going to give

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Speaker 1: this is I loved ornamenting, like decorating the tree every

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Speaker 1: damn like my brain, I don't have time, like when

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Speaker 1: like I need to be able to move, especially the holidays.

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Speaker 1: I want to be sure I'm getting my I got

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Speaker 1: to have my my how do you say it, Rakatan, Yep, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm checking, honey. I want

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Speaker 3: I did get some genes. Girl, we need these jeans, Jean.

435
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: Just a little something.

436
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, I go on the website down look which

437
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: website for some jeans I got.

438
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 3: Because denim be expensive? Y'all?

439
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: Like I'll trying to buy a jacket. You know millennials

440
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: and our dentim jacket.

441
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Speaker 1: I plan Beyonce girl.

442
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,959
Speaker 4: Yes, I was like, wait a minute, excuse me, what

443
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 4: if this these prices are offensive?

444
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to wear some damn jeans.

445
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: So I know it was crazy. It is like every

446
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 1: day this weekend. I was looking to my favorite place

447
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: to shop as a brand called Eloquy. They have plus size,

448
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: like I think fourteen plus or twelve plus. I've always

449
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: love them. And the hilarious thing is like their codes changed,

450
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: like they had two or three different codes on the

451
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: day the past few days, but somehow the prices were

452
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: the same. Like it all, I had the same cart,

453
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, And today I logged in and I'm like, oh, no,

454
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: I missed the Black Friday whatever, But it was Cyber Monday.

455
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: It was the same, same, things were slightly different. It

456
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: was the same same. That's the thing they're going to do.

457
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: The sales, they all be the same.

458
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Speaker 4: They listen and the thing is all the money that

459
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 4: they don't make throughout the year when people aren't shopping

460
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 4: because they're complaining and they're saving to.

461
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Speaker 3: Go on Black Friday.

462
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,239
Speaker 4: I understand small businesses got to make that back up.

463
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 4: It's roughile here, so I can't even blame them for that.

464
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 3: So cut them a little slack.

465
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 4: These small businesses, especially products and services, or products more

466
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 4: than services, because people are more willing to dish out

467
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 4: for services if they really need it, but for a product,

468
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 4: people will wait for the sale and then the sales

469
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 4: like this much.

470
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Speaker 3: Of a sale.

471
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Speaker 1: I officially also to save money. It's gonna our airfare

472
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Speaker 1: to fly our family afore from here to Georgia, which

473
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Speaker 1: on a normal day of the year would be like

474
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: maybe a thousand bucks. Like, you know, I can get

475
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: tickets like two hundred each for the four of us,

476
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: so like eight hundred, you know whatever, So not that bad.

477
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Speaker 1: Since October, when I started to look like early maybe

478
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Speaker 1: even September, it has been three thousand dollars.

479
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Speaker 2: Three thousand dollars.

480
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: Wow, yes, unless I want to fly like Frontier out

481
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: of Newark, you know, which has all the air traffic controllers,

482
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: think no yahta for parking overnight, and like do that

483
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: whole shebang. Three thousand. It's in absolutely insane and against

484
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: all of my better judgment and knowledge. We are going

485
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: to be driving, We're going to pack the kids up,

486
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: we're doing a we're doing a road trip.

487
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Speaker 3: I think that's the worst thing, Like a little three

488
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.

489
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Speaker 1: Have you done it?

490
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Speaker 4: I've done it with two of my nieces, but only

491
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Speaker 4: from New York to Maryland, which.

492
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Speaker 3: Is what like four hours. And but again, being an

493
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Speaker 3: auntie and a former third grade teacher that.

494
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Speaker 4: I am, I had packed up a bunch of games

495
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: for them, so I you know what, like the easiest

496
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 4: one to do. Pack a bunch of post its, just

497
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: like a pack of post its, right, and then my

498
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 4: nieces had a pin. I had a pin and they

499
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: I was sitting in the passenger seat in the front.

500
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 4: My nieces were in the back. So I would like, Okay,

501
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna draw something random. I'm gonna pass it to

502
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: the next one. You have to add anything to turn

503
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: it into something. So I would start with like a triangle.

504
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 4: My niece would put a square under it and make

505
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: it a house. Then my other niece would add windows,

506
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 4: and then I'll add a door, and then my niece

507
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: would ad somebody walking up to and then by.

508
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: The end of it we had a whole picture of it.

509
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: And they would just be giggling the back and it's

510
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: like they're not on their iPads, they're not on the phones.

511
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: We're laughing, we're doing so the creative that lasted probably

512
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Speaker 4: about thirty minutes forty minutes until they were like, Okay,

513
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to my iPad. So but so

514
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: you have to you know, I'm not gonna lie. It's

515
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: a lot of trying to think of different things. You

516
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: can only play I Spy for like so long until

517
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Speaker 4: they're tired of it.

518
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Speaker 1: So I did do that. We did this road trip

519
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: in spring break. I don't know if I told y'all

520
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: it was the hardest, like two days event of my

521
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: life because I was cruis I was cruise director, backseat butler,

522
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm in the passenger seat most of the time. I

523
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: think when I was begging my husband like please, I'll

524
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: drive the next leg, like give me. We got think

525
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: it's permanent shoulder damage from reaching and handing them shit

526
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: in the back seat, but it's it depends on the ages.

527
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: So my kids are just you know, small. But yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: I had like a multile library. I went to Barnes

529
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: and Noble and like the Dollar Store and had all

530
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Speaker 1: these like little surprises along the way. It can be done.

531
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Speaker 1: But this road trip, I said, we're probably gonna end

532
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Speaker 1: up like I think I'm gonna I think the key

533
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: is slowing it down and breaking like I think we

534
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Speaker 1: may stop. So if y'all have ever done like a

535
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Speaker 1: New York East Coast like road trip south, I'm trying

536
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Speaker 1: to think of places to stop along the way to

537
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Speaker 1: like make it a fun like you know, like more

538
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: of a fun road trip versus like, let's gun it like,

539
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, these eight hours, get to North Carolina, sleep

540
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Speaker 1: for a few hours, get in the car, make it

541
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Speaker 1: to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And so this is a multi day trip. I've never

543
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Speaker 2: driven like that far in the East Coast.

544
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Speaker 3: It has to be multi day. That would be crazy

545
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: if you time it was two days.

546
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Speaker 1: We did it in two days, and it was like,

547
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, real pedal to the metal, just like pushing,

548
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: you know, trying the kids, and I Day one was something.

549
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: Day two I started to lose my mind. But yeah,

550
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: I've heard like stopping gettysburg Hershey Park, the Shenandoah Valley.

551
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: It's supposed really, I know, it's really beautiful. We didn't

552
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: take any scenic routs last time, like through the mountains

553
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: and stuff, right, yeah, because we just had to get there.

554
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, is it am I? Is this a

555
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: bad it's slowing it down? What am I? I'm questioning

556
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: myself now, slowing it down?

557
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 4: Reasonable through it, reasonable number of stops. Maybe it's three

558
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: day and not a two day. I don't think you

559
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 4: need to make it a week long thing, but I

560
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: do think it's nice to give them a shorter time.

561
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 4: Like a goal post that is closer than Atlanta like

562
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 4: it's like.

563
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: Oh, we're going here, and then it's oh, we're going there,

564
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: and then so there's these little mini goalposts along the way.

565
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Speaker 4: Because it's true. Listen, I as an adult get rid

566
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 4: imagine the kids. Yeah, and the physical part of your

567
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: body being crunched their car, like you have to get up,

568
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: walk go, you know. So I think it is it's

569
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 4: going to be good to do a couple of stops, and.

570
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Speaker 3: Those soun really good.

571
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Speaker 4: Anything where there's a kids museum along the way is

572
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 4: a good one to stop at, you know, depending on

573
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Speaker 4: when you're driving, but usually they're open.

574
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Speaker 1: It's right because it's winter, you know, in the spring,

575
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: the test the supercharger, like in the field next door. Girl,

576
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Speaker 1: you know, you want.

577
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: To be inside. It's cold as hell. You want to

578
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: be inside with those kids, girl, kids museums.

579
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Speaker 2: You and you do an electric car trip too, so

580
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: you have to make stops like you do.

581
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: We have to make so many stops once you put

582
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Speaker 1: all the baggage and the humans in the year, once

583
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: you do all that, all that like mileage shit, it

584
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: goes out the window, like your mileage ratio whatever it is.

585
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: It's I think we were stopping at least every like

586
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: ninety minutes to two hours to charge. That is just

587
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Speaker 1: like a lot annoying.

588
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: Oh my lord, that's annoying.

589
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: But I'm like, we're going. You know, there's three thousand bucks.

590
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: Let's put it into like a fun experience versus like.

591
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Speaker 4: No, listen, hands down, I would have overspending three grand

592
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: on the trip that you normally would spend eight hundred on.

593
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: Like, that's that's for sure.

594
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: I mean, unless you've got it like that, you just

595
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: ball out of control and you're like, I'm willing to pay,

596
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: but like that is I wish more than a three

597
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: more than a three x step differential for one trip,

598
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: not for like two or three trips.

599
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: No, that's that's wild.

600
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: And you you haven't even left your country, let alone

601
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: the coast you live on, and it's gonna be three

602
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, No.

603
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Three grand, not even a passport required, So absolutely insane.

604
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: You know what I could do with three thousand dollars.

605
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: You gotta visit the mother. We gotta visit a Dominican Republic.

606
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: The kids have still well my oldest we gotta get there.

607
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: Y'all gotta go do that. You can do that for

608
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: less than three thousand.

609
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: Come on, now, come on now, hop y'all in a

610
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 4: little jet blue flight, right.

611
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: I mean I wish, I really do. I I just

612
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: can't believe those prices. And maybe it was like shutdown related,

613
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: but that can't be because I was looking like back

614
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: in September, there was a lot, there.

615
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: Was a lot going on, government shut down, said there

616
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: was the prices because of so much going on.

617
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why people are shopping, because we're trying to

618
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: heal ourselves. As you know, it's socially, you know, acceptable

619
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: to do to like shop and to feel this joy

620
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: of giving and getting.

621
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Speaker 4: That's right, especially when you justify it by saying, oh

622
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: but I'm giving these I'm giving these gifts and it's like, okay,

623
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: but you know the act of shopping and buying things

624
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: is making you feel better too. There's so much psychology

625
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: to it. It's like, oh, man, I wish we could

626
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: help more people get to the root of it. But

627
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: I understand we all need look the fact that some

628
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: people just have vices and people out there just their

629
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: vices just shopping, so some of that needs to be addressed.

630
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: But then there's really just how we need we need

631
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: relief you know what I mean, like.

632
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: Just walking through the stores in the holiday and they're

633
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: playing Holiday musing Rin carries on Blast and you're shopping.

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: It's like that instant relief, that instant boosts.

635
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: We a lot of people just need it that so desperately,

636
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: so you can understand it. But I just wish it

637
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: wasn't such a bad find antial outcome.

638
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Have youy' all ever made bread? You know, scratch scratch bread,

639
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: you have like or just like bake something. I have

640
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: been finding so much joy and peace from like just

641
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: and like I'm really genuinely I got a couple of

642
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: cookbooks from the library and I was like, I'm just

643
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna like cook and like do new things, new recipes

644
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: to take out the monotony. You know how dark it

645
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: gets up here, you know you remember, like it's so

646
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: dark as like three thirty or four.

647
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: I was watched this night.

648
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 4: I was just up there and I looked at the window,

649
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: like damn, I forgot how it gets darted like four thirty.

650
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: It looks like it is the worst part of living there.

651
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: I hate it. I do not miss it at.

652
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Nights are so long, and I'm like, is it not

653
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: It's not the bedtime, yet it's like four thirty so

654
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: coop and like creating cinnamon rolls that made beta tacos

655
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: last night and yeah, and it's just it's helping. Like

656
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it'll be useful for, but

657
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: that I think has also just give my hands something

658
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: to do and to keep my mind busy so that

659
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm not following back because I definitely can see how

660
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, you're on TikTok, you're on the internet and

661
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: like it's like, oh, everyone's like it's a herd mentality.

662
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Everyone's shopping, ten billion dollars being spent, like I need

663
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: to get it. It's okay, everyone's doing it kind of thing.

664
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, and you get more of what you search for.

665
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: So if you start looking for.

666
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: Recipes and baking, you're gonna stop getting the shopping stuff.

667
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get more of the baking recipe stuff. So

668
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, you know what, maybe lean into that

669
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: a little bit because that definitely does help get some

670
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: of that. You you're always gonna get the ads, but

671
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: the stuff that's coming up in your feed isn't so

672
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: much going to be like look at this hall. It's

673
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: just more so going to be like, let me show

674
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: you my baking recipe. My kids love it, and then okay,

675
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: that's a little a little bit better.

676
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: Bake, Brad. Don't bake yourself into debt exactly.

677
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: So is this something you pick up just for the

678
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: holidays or had you already gotten into baking.

679
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: I've always been a baker, Like I do make a

680
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: big birthday cake for my kids for their birthdays, Like

681
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I'll take whatever their theme is and make a ridiculous

682
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: character cake that nobody asked me to make for them.

683
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: And it's always been fun for me. But this level

684
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: of like consistency and you know, trying really like challenging recipes,

685
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: that's that's something that's new. Like I might make puff pastry.

686
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I might try it. Like I made a three tiered

687
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: rainbow cake for Rio's sixth birthday party a couple of

688
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: weeks back. He's a Thanksgiving baby, so I always try

689
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: to like do his birthday huge so that he doesn't

690
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: feel like it's lumped together, you know. And it was

691
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: the day before Thanksgiving this year, so it's just the

692
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: pressure I put on myself. But I made him a

693
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: birthday and I'm always up to like two in the

694
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: morning doing it, even though I swear this is not

695
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: going to be I'm gonna prep, I'm going to practice.

696
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: Nah nah.

697
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Ever since I made him a sloth for his first birthday,

698
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: it's in my tradition.

699
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: Oh oh my goodness, that's so cute. Though, that is

700
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: so cute.

701
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: I don't think I have a got customized cakes even

702
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: as an adult.

703
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: Like it's always just a regular day.

704
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Speaker 1: Go gke, hook you up, put you need your skills?

705
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: What is my girl? My thing is money, a stack

706
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: of money. Yeah, give me a cash cake.

707
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: Heyba fam We're gonna take a quick break, pay some

708
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: bills and we'll be right back. Wait, I want some.

709
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: I want some like career like business updates from you'll ya, Nelly.

710
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: We all know you were on gm A doing working

711
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: like such a natural.

712
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: Great show, y'all.

713
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: I had sorry sorry today's show.

714
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. So funny thing is I had obviously had it

715
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: on my.

716
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: Vision board for last year, for probably two years before,

717
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: and even last year it didn't happen.

718
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: And I have a lot of.

719
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: Contacts at CNBC because I'm already on the CNBC Financial

720
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: Illness Advisory Council, which is now a global council.

721
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: Because we have some international members.

722
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: But you know, I had just been contributing, contributing foring

723
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: and thinking, oh, it'll come back. But this year there

724
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: was a small event for NBC Universal staff for Hispanic

725
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: Heritage Month, and I'm not gonna lie. I kind of

726
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: had to go out of my way to be in

727
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: New York during the time that the event was, and

728
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: I wanted to do it. Obviously it was a Hispanic

729
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: Carritage Month event, but it was a smaller event relative

730
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: to like what I usually do, and you know, so

731
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I'm had to kind

732
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: of go on my way and it's such a small thing,

733
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: but I was like, you know what, we gotta do it.

734
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: We gotta show up for our people. Hispanic Corritage Month

735
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: is probably gonna be a lot of Latina women. They

736
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 4: need to hear this financial you know, wake up, So

737
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: let me show up. After that talk, this producer came

738
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: up to me and goes, you were incredible. You have

739
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: a light your natural I would love to have you

740
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: on my segment for the Today Show.

741
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: I almost didn't do that, gig y'all. I almost didn't go,

742
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: like this is the crazy stuff that be happened.

743
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, are you serious. Yes, let's connect.

744
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: So we exchange information. She's just the sweetest woman, such

745
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: a like, she has.

746
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: Such a big personality.

747
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: She was wearing a tutu when I met her, that's

748
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: how like she is literally like a walk you know,

749
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: this frizzle.

750
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, so I was like, okay, like let's connect. And

751
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: so we just texted for a long.

752
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: Time, and so she finally said, you know what, there's

753
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: a spot that opened up and we really want to

754
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: talk about, you know, just general financial tips for people

755
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: that are overwhelmed. And it's on a segment called on

756
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: the Money, and so I pitched them and they were.

757
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: Like, we love it, let's do it. It was supposed

758
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: to be a six minute.

759
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: Segment, then it got cut down to a five minute segment,

760
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: and then live on air they cut it down to

761
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 4: four minutes.

762
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 3: So a lot of what we had prepped didn't.

763
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Make it, but you know, I guess such as the

764
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: nature of live television. But the good news is I

765
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: was invited back for April for financial literacy months. So

766
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're working on a segment now to kind

767
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: of help with like, you know, dealing with money and

768
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: financial issues as a family with your family, like how

769
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: to talk to your family about money.

770
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: So we're going to do that one next. So it

771
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: was fun. Honestly, it was really exciting.

772
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: It was a lot of adrenaline and then it was

773
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: over so quick because it was four minutes.

774
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: But you know, I have no complaints. It was a

775
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: lot of fun and I'm glad I'll be back to

776
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: do it again.

777
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you really are. I mean you know, I'm like, yeah,

778
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: you're a natural and you do you have a light

779
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's incredible. It's also such a testament

780
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: to like, there's that it's like how do you get

781
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: those opportunities? How does it happen? And it's like, just

782
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: do the thing that you do like and get caught

783
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: doing it is such a good natural way to get

784
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: those types of opportunities. And that's right.

785
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't ever want to get to the

786
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: point where I feel like, oh I'm beyond that.

787
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm too big for that. Like I had to.

788
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: I get tempted to think like, oh, that's such a

789
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: small event with such a small audience. It's like, so

790
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: what you never know who's in that audience, and unless

791
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 4: it is actually not feasible for you to do it,

792
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: then okay, like don't do it, don't you know, and

793
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: over backwards, change your whole schedule, go out of your way.

794
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: But if it works, and it's just a little bit

795
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: of you know, like of rearranging and you can still

796
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: make it work, Like I'm of the mindset of like, yeah,

797
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 4: make it work, because you just never know.

798
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: And so I'm glad.

799
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: I just essentially had to adjust like one of the

800
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: legs of one of my flights, but honestly, it was

801
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 4: so worth it. And then after the Today's Show segment

802
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: was over, I packed up and I headed out. And

803
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: my sister works in Rockville Center area, so so she

804
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: and I got lunch together, and that was so nice

805
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: because she's like the older.

806
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: Sister that I've like, I always have looked up to her.

807
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 4: But our age gap made it so that she was

808
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: never like meeting her never we're around at the same time.

809
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: So when she went off to college, I was in

810
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 4: middle school, high school. Then when like she was working,

811
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: she moved out of the house and I went off

812
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: to college. And when I came back, like now she

813
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: has a baby, she's married, she has a house, and

814
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: so I just feel as much as I admire her

815
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: and she's always inspired me. We are never like able

816
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 4: to really link up and be together around the same

817
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: time or be at a similar phase of life together.

818
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 4: She's always like a bit ahead cause she's a couple.

819
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: You know, she's like she's an eighties baby. Well I'm

820
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: an ages to day, but she's an early eighties baby.

821
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: I'm a late eighties baby, so we're like almost ten

822
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 4: years apart. But that was so nice. We just sat

823
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 4: down and had a good old lunch, We had drinks,

824
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: we talked like it was just so so nice. So

825
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 4: it was more it was a trip that was worth

826
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: it beyond just like my Today Show segment, but that

827
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 4: was definitely the highlight.

828
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: Like that was so much fun.

829
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always better when you get to celebrate, especially

830
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: as you're coming down at the adrenaline rush, like get

831
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: to celebrate with someone who loves you and here knows

832
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: when you were just an eighties baby, that's my baby

833
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: sister show.

834
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: I know, right. She was like, I can't believe this.

835
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: I would go back to work with everybody. I was

836
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: just my sister was just on the Today Show.

837
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 4: Mind you, she loves big old she manages like major

838
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 4: construction projects in New York City. She was the site

839
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: manager for the reconstruction of the Yankee Stadium for the

840
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 4: brand new Yankee Stadium.

841
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: Like that was her project.

842
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 4: Okay, multi billion dollar project, and so she's like, I'm

843
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: so proud of my basis.

844
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, please you run New York. Get out

845
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: of here.

846
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: That's such a good Like my book club pick for

847
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: this year, can you see this? My book club pick

848
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: for November December is this book Uncompete. It's so so good.

849
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: I think it's so great even for sisters or like

850
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: friends to read this book, especially like I have three siblings,

851
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: and I used to be unnecessarily competitive with my little brother.

852
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: It was one sided. He's like, what, no, but I

853
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: had to work for some stuff. But anyway, like being

854
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: able to like celebrate each other's wins, especially when you

855
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: all do so many different like you're such very different

856
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: career paths, and some career paths more lend themselves to

857
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: like wins and like exciting updates. And then you have

858
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: people who like are if you're a teacher or you know,

859
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: you're a caretaker or whatever, like it may not feel

860
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: always like you're getting those that act that recognition from family. Anyway,

861
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: this is a wonderful book.

862
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: I had not heard of it on my radar now

863
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: on Compete love it.

864
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: It's such a talent like and that's from a reach

865
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: by Rachica T. Malhotra. If you haven't listened to my

866
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: interview with her, y'all got to go back and listen.

867
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: But you'll see why it was my pick because it

868
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: just it brought a lot of peace and it feels

869
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: like the complete opposite of what all the signals from

870
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: society are telling us today, which is to compare, compare,

871
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: and to feel less than and like there's always something

872
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: that I need to improve on if someone else is winning,

873
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Like what does that say about me? And I just

874
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: love the way that she takes the idea of the

875
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: concept of competition and kind of debunks the idea that

876
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: we are inherently competitive and like we're meant to be,

877
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, competing against each other. All the time I've

878
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: been I've been really loving it. It doesn't just sit

879
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: on the shelf I have read it.

880
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: I love that. I really there's something to that.

881
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: Like collaboration over a competition has been such a strong

882
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: theme for like even just a lot of what we

883
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: all do on social media. For years, it's been like

884
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: stop trying to get people people collaborate together. It's so

885
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: much better every it pays off for everyone even more

886
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: and it feels good and it's.

887
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: So much more fun.

888
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: Right, But it's like it's so much easier said than

889
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: done because of the way that the individualist culture of

890
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 4: Western culture is. It's like you in your you know,

891
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: writing down your goals, working towards them.

892
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: You're in the silo and you really have to like

893
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: work so hard.

894
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: To get out of the silo and like either you know,

895
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 4: put projects together or find opportunities or create the opportunities.

896
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: That's the reality because a lot of times you don't,

897
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: they don't come to you.

898
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: You have to create them. So it's it's so hard.

899
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: But like I always say, the easiest things in life

900
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 4: are not always the most rewarding. So if it is

901
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: going to be a little harder, it's because it's gonna

902
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: come with a greater rewards. So don't be afraid to

903
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: go out there and you know, create that opportunity or

904
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: create that project.

905
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 3: Go out of your way.

906
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: And every chance I can collaborate with people, I do try,

907
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: because I'm not the kind that enjoys sitting at home

908
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: recording talking to my camera all day to videos, like

909
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: it needs to be other people social. I'm interacting with

910
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 4: people for me to really fill my cup.

911
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah sure. And I think too, like for me

912
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: being a guy, I feel like it's competition is always

913
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: like ingrading. You've got to be competing with everybody. And

914
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: I was such a hyper competitive like young person, and

915
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: I remember it took me a while to really break

916
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: out it. Really, it's so nice to like I used

917
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: to I used to hate losing, Like I hated to

918
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: lose so bad. No, no, no, we're going to like we're

919
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: gonna go anything I had to win, I had to

920
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 2: go and it was like but now, oh, I feel

921
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: like I gotten older. I've learned some things from therapy.

922
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: You know, you learn that, like you know, it's so

923
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: much it's so much more enjoyable to like celebrate people

924
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: you know, who you care about winning. And I love

925
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: to see people I know like do amazing things like

926
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: my brother. I love seeing like the life he's building,

927
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: like his family and his career. And it's just like

928
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: to me, it feels nice when you can finally break

929
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: out of that excuse me, that competition cycle and really

930
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: just look at what people are doing and like appreciate

931
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: it because like someone else, winning doesn't take away from you.

932
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: It should be kind of asked to your life to

933
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: see people you know and care about do well that part.

934
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Yep, maybe that's why. Yeah, it's it's really nice being

935
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: your friend. I'm glad, But it's like with this version

936
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: of it's nice to like be friends with someone once

937
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: they've worked all that shit out, you know.

938
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, competitive, I'll try that. I'm glad.

939
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 4: I got Chris two point o because I like the

940
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: sound of the old.

941
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: Chris fourteen point seven at this point, so fourteen point.

942
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: You know.

943
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: When I saw that, I wanted to talk to y'all

944
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: about too. Was Oprah? Is she has a podcast? But

945
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: I came across this on YouTube. She did a recent

946
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: podcast episode which is really just her show. They record

947
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: the audio, but it's like it's like vintage Oprah. I'm like,

948
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: is she doing the show again? It felt very like Oprah,

949
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, to like nineteen ninety five, two thousand and five.

950
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: But she did a show on the rising trend of

951
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: going contact with your family.

952
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 3: I saw clips on social media of it. Yep.

953
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: I turned it on earlier while I was doing my

954
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, cyber Monday shopping, and I was so I

955
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: just the way that she put her and her team

956
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: put together these episodes. I'm like, oh, I miss this,

957
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: like nuanced conversation about a trending topic with multiple different voices.

958
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: It was just I'm like, we need more of this.

959
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: But it was so well done. And I think, yeah,

960
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: and so just the idea of like no contact, if

961
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: that's there's it does feel like more and more people,

962
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: especially like around our age friends family, that have been

963
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: like talking to me or just kind of casually talking

964
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: about having gone on no contact with It's not always parents,

965
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: but a lot of time it is parents. And I think, yeah,

966
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I used to be more of a I am no

967
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: contact with a sibling of mine and I have been

968
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: for a long long time and it's just like one

969
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: of those relationships that it makes. It just makes so

970
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: much sense and life is so much more peaceful with

971
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: the no contact with the sibling. But it may in

972
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: hearing though from like the parents' point of view, because

973
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: Oprah had like moms and dads and you know, people

974
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: on the show talking about it and how the social

975
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: and also like psychologists talking about how the social media

976
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: aspect of it and you know the buzzwords like the

977
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: emotionally immature parent and you know, going no content and

978
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: how these themes are kind of giving young people permission

979
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: to just like not confront, not to have conflict and

980
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: like resolve it, which made me feel really reflective about

981
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: did I give that relation? Have I tried to resolve it?

982
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: The answer is yes, I don't. Like girl, yes you did,

983
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: But I wondered, Yeah, if y'all had any thoughts about that, I.

984
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: Was gonna say social media must play a big role

985
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: in that, because I do feel like the trend line

986
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 4: for it is only going up generationally. I don't think

987
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 4: that you see so many older generations saying, oh, I'm

988
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: going to cut off my sister or my cousin.

989
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 3: Or my you know whatever.

990
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: It just it's a different time for people to be

991
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: okay with saying you don't have to be part of

992
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 4: my life. And I think that, Yeah, I was gonna

993
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: say social media has to have played a big role

994
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: in that, because before we were all in silos, like

995
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: with our own families, but now you can go online

996
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 4: and swipe and listen to other people talk about how

997
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: they deal with their families, people across the world.

998
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: You know, doesn't just have to be your community.

999
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: So I think we not that you need permission to

1000
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: do whatever you want to do with your life, but

1001
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: I think it has given young people this permission to say,

1002
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: you know.

1003
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: It's not healthy right for my own mental health.

1004
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: It's just another trending topic that has really taken off

1005
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: because of social media, is what do I need to

1006
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 4: do for my own mental health and my own sanity

1007
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: and for me to be at peace? And if me

1008
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: not talking to this person because they're toxic or because

1009
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: they're extremely negative, or because you know, whatever problems they

1010
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: bring into my life that I don't appreciate and I've

1011
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 4: tried asking them, Like at this point, I think it

1012
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: just has given permission to younger generations to say, even

1013
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: if other people from older generations look down on it

1014
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: or frown upon it, because they're your family. A lot

1015
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 4: of those justifications, oh but their blood, Oh but they're

1016
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: your family. Oh but that it's like, Okay, that means

1017
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: something to you, It doesn't mean.

1018
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: That same thing to me.

1019
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: And that's I think the trend line and like the

1020
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: I guess boldness that comes with just being able to

1021
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: like accept that permission from like seeing that other people

1022
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: are doing that. Because the truth is, I think that

1023
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: for so long it was like so shunned upon, like no,

1024
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: that's your mom, Like that's your that's your aunt, Like

1025
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: that's your.

1026
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: Only get one mom? Yeah, what is thicker than water? Yeah?

1027
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: All those phrases.

1028
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: It just makes you feel like you can't, you can't

1029
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: even think of doing that. But now I just I

1030
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: really do feel like the more people talk about it,

1031
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 4: because I don't think I don't have anything like that

1032
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: in my family, but I have definitely, I will acknowledge

1033
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: that I have seen a huge uptick in the kind

1034
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: of content talking about it that I see. So when

1035
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: I'm scolling Instagram now I'm looking at people's stories from

1036
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: friends of mine, I'll hear them talk about how, oh yeah,

1037
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: I don't talk to my mom anymore. You know that

1038
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: that's just for the best for me, But you know,

1039
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: other people Happy Mother's Day, you know, things like that,

1040
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: when it's Mother's Day, when it's Followers Day, whatever, it's

1041
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: whatever kind of things.

1042
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: I've just seen it. It's been on the uptick for

1043
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: a while and I'm like, oh, this was like a thing.

1044
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: Social media has really emboldened people to just cut people

1045
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: or try to set boundaries.

1046
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: If people don't respect those boundaries, then don't be afraid.

1047
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: To cut them like that, not just cut them, but

1048
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: like I think there's a lot of conversation about toxicity,

1049
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: mental health, boundary setting and then eventually if you need

1050
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 4: to cut people off and making that okay, yeah, I.

1051
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: Mean, I mean that's real because like I think, like

1052
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: you said, older generations and almost like they didn't have

1053
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: that option, they didn't allow themselves that option that you

1054
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: would just do. You have to hear be around these

1055
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: people who are horrible to you, who say it just

1056
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: the most crazy, out of pocket thing to you, whatever

1057
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: they want, and then you just like, well, this is

1058
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: just what it is. Even though it makes you feel

1059
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: horrible if you don't like it, you just felt like

1060
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: you had to do it. And I think it's kind

1061
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: of what man he was saying, Like, I think it's

1062
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: important to try to fix relationships when you can. I

1063
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: have conversations and be real, and i'd be like passive

1064
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: aggressive and ignore it and just be like, oh, you know,

1065
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: I don't like them but I'm never going to say

1066
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: anything to them. You kind of have to put a

1067
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: little bit of work to try to see if you can,

1068
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: like let them know, hey, I don't like this, But

1069
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: I think it's also really great to be able to

1070
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: be like, look, they know how I feel, they still

1071
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: keep doing this, and then to be okay, like, hey

1072
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: if they were, if they were a friend, would I

1073
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: be friends with them? Still? No, I think it's okay

1074
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: to be like, you know what, just because we're related,

1075
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: none of us had to saying this mean that we

1076
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: need to keep this going. I get to say, you

1077
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: know what, I'm good, And I think it's nice to

1078
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: have the option, but you kind of I think it

1079
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: is good that I do both, like both try to

1080
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: be mature and have a conversation and work things out

1081
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: if you can, but also be like, I'm good if

1082
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: I if we don't see each other again.

1083
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think there's even something to be said

1084
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: for a small subset of people who probably feel like

1085
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 4: they don't even want to put the effort into trying

1086
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: for whatever reason. And I'm thinking of like the most

1087
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 4: extreme cases where there's been physical abuse or domestic violence,

1088
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: whatever kind of things, where it's like I've seen that

1089
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: person's true character. I have zero desire to converse with them,

1090
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: to try to reflect, to try to work through it.

1091
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I just don't want them in my life.

1092
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in theirs.

1093
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: And that's a decision that I'm making for my best

1094
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: self and my best life, and like that is okay too.

1095
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: I do think that that's going to be more of

1096
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: a smaller subset of people. I think most people do

1097
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 4: try to work things and then it just realized like, Okay,

1098
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: this is not working and I'm trying and it's not

1099
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: going anywhere, but it is also okay, and you're like, yeah,

1100
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: I ain't even really trying to have a conversation with

1101
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: this person because I don't think that's going to be pruful.

1102
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to. That's fine too. It's just I

1103
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 4: don't know that that's the norm. But I do think

1104
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: we want to just acknowledge that that that is totally

1105
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: okay and valid as well.

1106
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: It's really painful, I think, for I don't think there's

1107
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: any pain free side of it, Like whether you're the

1108
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: person who's being cut off or the person doing the cutting.

1109
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Like it is, it can be really really painful to

1110
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: like disconnect from a person and maybe you have like

1111
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: fond memories for a time with or like and I

1112
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: think there's also this societal thing where we we want

1113
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: to have that relative, that sibling, that mother daughter relationship,

1114
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: father daughter, you know, whatever it may be, and we

1115
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: sort of romanticize that, and when you don't get it,

1116
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: it's really painful. And also like I just really I

1117
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: feel for people who are doing the cutting off. I

1118
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: don't and I think to your point in Ellie, like

1119
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: a lot of them they have tried and from watching

1120
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: and I'll put a link in the show notes, but

1121
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: like watching this whole long, hour long episode of this

1122
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: Oprah podcast video whatever Oprah show was hearing, how many

1123
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: times the real issue was that when someone came to

1124
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: the table with the problem, the other person could not

1125
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: see past, like could not do any self reflection. And

1126
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: this was especially like true of parents when your child's

1127
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: criticizing you, And I've definitely experienced with my mother this

1128
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: where there's this like instant pushing away in defensiveness, which

1129
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: then like leaves the like leaves you being the person

1130
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: complaining or bringing up a grievance feeling like there's really

1131
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: no hot like where do we go from here? You know,

1132
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: like to not be acknowledged or to not get that

1133
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: validation and like that apology and the accountability and I

1134
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: feel like the key takeaway and I hope a lot

1135
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: of people watch this is like if you're someone who

1136
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: has been cut off, and they're like, you're gonna you're

1137
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: letting that resentment foster, Like why did they do that

1138
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: to me? And you know, I gave them everything, I

1139
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: was a great whatever to really like listen to what

1140
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: they're saying, which is it has to start with you

1141
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: acknowledging the part that you play in whatever story that

1142
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: they're you know, telling you. And when you can't do that,

1143
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: that's when you have to get cut off. Yeah, you

1144
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: in that case, like you're helping cause your own pain.

1145
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. And a lot of times it's because those people

1146
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: have not been to therapy.

1147
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just.

1148
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: Going to say it, and I'm just going to say

1149
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 4: it because it is much It's much easier to be

1150
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: able to listen to somebody critique the way that you

1151
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: handled a situation or the way that you treated them

1152
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 4: and reflect on the.

1153
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: Way that you were involved in that and what role

1154
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: you played, Like it is much easier when.

1155
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 4: You have had a consistent practice of doing so with

1156
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: therapy conversations and in therapy sessions. So to not have

1157
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 4: ever attempted therapy and to hear somebody talking to you

1158
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 4: and be immediately defensive and not try to acknowledge any wrongdoing, Like,

1159
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: to me, that's a sign that person is in desperate

1160
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 4: need of some therapy.

1161
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like, how do I make sure that my

1162
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: kid always know as they can criticiz or like bring

1163
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: me feedback and I'll like take it and I.

1164
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: Just just you know what, I would say, tak of a.

1165
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: Worse outcome than him cutting me off someday.

1166
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1167
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: And I think as a former teacher, I was always

1168
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: trying to do this with the kids, is make sure

1169
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: they they don't see me as the one hundred percent perfect,

1170
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: all knowing, amazing teacher who's the who's like the leader.

1171
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: And the fearless to know everything.

1172
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: Like I didn't want them to see any adult that way,

1173
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: and so I was constantly telling them, you know, asking,

1174
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, hey, what could we have done better about that?

1175
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 4: Or did you like that activity? Was there something that

1176
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 4: was you know, any kind of feedback. And then also

1177
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 4: if a kid just tells you something where you recognize

1178
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 4: they're trying to give you some type of feedback, like

1179
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: I would pause and I would say, thank you so

1180
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 4: much for telling me that I could have done an

1181
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: even better job with dismissal yesterday it felt really rushed,

1182
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: So that helps me know that today's dismissal, I'm gonna

1183
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: add an extra five minutes and I'm gonna make that change.

1184
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: Thanks to the feedback that you gave me.

1185
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 4: So give me a high five. Is you're gonna make

1186
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: us all better. You're gonna make me better.

1187
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 3: And like letting kids know that when they tell me

1188
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: something that I.

1189
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: Actually I'm gonna say it out loud and I'm gonna like,

1190
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: you know, narrate it so everybody can hear. Oh, she's

1191
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 4: taking that feedback and actually thinking that it's okay to

1192
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 4: get feedback and thinking that what I did wrong was this,

1193
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: but this is how I'm gonna make it better, and

1194
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: thank you for telling me that. And like all of

1195
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 4: that has to be done out loud consistently so they

1196
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 4: can see it modeled. And the more that happens, the

1197
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: more they realize that's normal. To do so then they

1198
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: copy it and they do it too, but they also

1199
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: just have more memories of you listening to them and

1200
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: actually taking their feedback and implementing it. So, I mean,

1201
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: I'm sure you already do this, Mandy, but like if

1202
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: you're wondering, oh my gosh, how do.

1203
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 3: I do more of that? Like, it's just that it's

1204
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: just saying out loud, thank you, baby, you.

1205
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 4: Know what you just told me that you know the

1206
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: this wasn't set up right, and now I know that

1207
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: I need to take five extra minutes to set it

1208
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: up and that and I'm gonna make it better because you.

1209
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: And that just helps them realize it's.

1210
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: Okay for me to tell grown ups some things back

1211
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: sometimes as long as it's respectful, you know what I mean.

1212
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: That's obviously that's always the line. But just doing more

1213
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 4: of that.

1214
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: Just be a boomer's first nightmare. Boomers don't get any slack.

1215
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: My mom's a boomer, she's come so far. Shout out

1216
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: to you for doing the work, but yeah, be their

1217
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: worst nightmare.

1218
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: Like feedback and criticism.

1219
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: They can though self reflection.

1220
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: Baby, it's hard because you know what it is.

1221
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 4: It's like when I try to encourage my dad to

1222
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 4: change his diet.

1223
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. He had a serious surgery. Then, man,

1224
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: he was he's seventy years old.

1225
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: When you've been doing something the same way for seven decades,

1226
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 4: they say you can't teach old dog new tricks. It's

1227
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 4: worse to try to teach an old person new habits

1228
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: or new behaviors.

1229
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: It's like seventy years of being.

1230
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 4: This way, saying these things, acting a certain way, and

1231
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 4: it being okay, and now someone's telling you it's no

1232
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: longer okay. It's like it really, I mean truly, is

1233
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: like piercing the bubble of their world.

1234
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 3: So I feel little for boomers.

1235
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: I know we have like I'm always like, okay Boomer,

1236
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I do feel bad for

1237
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 4: them a little because they have literally spent almost a

1238
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: century behaving a certain way, and then all of a sudden,

1239
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 4: one day they wake up and somebody's telling them, oh,

1240
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: you can't do that, you can't say that no more.

1241
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: And it's like, ask you me, what do you mean.

1242
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be really hard to make the shift.

1243
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 4: Not that they can't, not that it's impossible, not that

1244
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: they shouldn't want to, just acknowledging that it is going

1245
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 4: to be difficult to do that. It's really hard because

1246
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: just because of the at batch, just because of the

1247
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 4: repetition of them having done a certain thing a certain

1248
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: way for so damn long.

1249
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to write my future me a letter.

1250
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Will there be letters in the future,

1251
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't.

1252
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 3: Know, But just be like, tell you I can see

1253
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: the store for you.

1254
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: Your twenty five year old son is critiquing you, Mandy,

1255
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: like you said this was okay, Remember it's fine. Reflect

1256
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: and reflect and be like, why did you throw my

1257
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: minecraft toy away? Even though I hit my brother with it?

1258
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: Like that was a bit much. I'd be like, I

1259
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: did the best I could. Oh my god.

1260
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1261
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: And Also the thing is with the shift how we

1262
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 4: think about critique, Like when you hear the word critique,

1263
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: I think immediately it's negative, like there's only if this

1264
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 4: two buck, it's positive negative. But you hear the word critique.

1265
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: We never put that word in the positive boocket. And

1266
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: it's like why not, Like when I get critique, I

1267
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: think it's because Okay, So when I was an undergrad,

1268
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 4: one of my majors visual arts, and so we would

1269
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: do critiques. Like we would walk around the studio and everybody,

1270
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: like all twenty students would go to one student's art

1271
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 4: piece and we would just look.

1272
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: At it and critique it. It's like that critique is

1273
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: never a bad thing. We wanted critique.

1274
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: We were all waiting for the critique to happen for

1275
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: next week because it would help me realize what I

1276
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 4: got to do to make this piece that much better

1277
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: so it can actually make it to the gallery. Like

1278
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: I honestly, I have a weird relationship with the word

1279
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 4: critique because I think of it in that artistic context

1280
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: of like, oh, all these really good artists are going

1281
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: to come look at my piece.

1282
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: And make it better, like give me the critique.

1283
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 4: But I think we in life tend to think of

1284
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 4: critique as like the word criticism or critics, which often

1285
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 4: are usually negative. But criticism can be good, and a

1286
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: critic can give you a good review just as well

1287
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: as easily as they can give a bad review. I

1288
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: think it's more so your relationship with hearing those words,

1289
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: and you don't always have to agree either, Like I

1290
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: would look at the critique and be like, oh, yeah,

1291
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: now that's their style. I don't want to do that.

1292
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to add more yellow. I think that's

1293
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: going to make it too, It's going to change the

1294
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: vibe of my piece. So thanks for the critique, but

1295
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: I'm not going to, you know, implement it. Like I

1296
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Speaker 4: think there's that world where we can actually just like

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Speaker 4: sit with it all and not have to have it

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Speaker 4: be such a negative weight. But of course, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of that comes from therapy too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, for me it was just the art world,

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Speaker 4: but for a lot of people, I think the more

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Speaker 4: you hear things about yourself that aren't fuzzy and warm

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Speaker 4: and positive, the more like you get comfortable hearing that

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Speaker 4: kind of criticist or hearing things like that in general

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Speaker 4: about yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, just PSA to you for this holiday season.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have permission to spend it how you

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Speaker 1: want to spend it, with whom you want to spend it,

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Speaker 1: and things don't have to get resolved just because it's

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Speaker 1: a holiday, and you don't have to pretend that things

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Speaker 1: are okay just because it's a holiday. But maybe it's

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Speaker 1: like an opening for a conversation after the holiday, when

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Speaker 1: things are not so heightened and people are not trying

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Speaker 1: to like, but it's Christmas, but you know, the season

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Speaker 1: of blah blah blah. It's like, well, if you want

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Speaker 1: to have a really painful discussion, then we can earn

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Speaker 1: like that time that we're going to spend together over

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Speaker 1: the holidays. But yeah, it's really freaking hard. I think

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Speaker 1: just the parent in general, like to be a parent

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Speaker 1: and then to get because you so, yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: under I really empathized with parents and have compassion for

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Speaker 1: them who are getting the difficult critique or feedback because

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Speaker 1: it's just so different than anything else in your life

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Speaker 1: that you've done, and something that is so complex and

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Speaker 1: so difficult in and of itself. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to do a better job preparing parents, like and also

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Speaker 1: like helping parents acknowledge their own humanity to your point

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Speaker 1: on Ellie, like like reminding myself constantly like I'm actually

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Speaker 1: a work in progress too. I am going to make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: It makes it a lot easier than to understand later

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Speaker 1: why someone may may have feedback or maybe giving you

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Speaker 1: some you know, some like here's my version of events,

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Speaker 1: this was hurtful to me or whatever, because and then

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be because they're really they're reacting and

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Speaker 1: defensively because it hurts because they have they haven't allowed

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Speaker 1: themselves to even to entertain the idea that they could

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Speaker 1: mess up and that it would be okay. Doesn't make

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Speaker 1: you a bad parent to have messed up, like we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. And so that's just something I'd put

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Speaker 1: that in my letter to myself in twenty years, to

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Speaker 1: be like, you're a good mom. It doesn't, but you

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Speaker 1: fucked up. But you're a good mom. But you're fucked up.

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Speaker 3: It's all right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You're not you're not getting you know, you're not a

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Speaker 1: terrible person, but acknowledge that you messed.

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Speaker 4: Up, and honestly even changing the way changing your definition

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Speaker 4: of a good mom or even a perfect mom.

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Speaker 3: What is a perfect mom?

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Speaker 4: A perfect mom is a mom who does an exceptional

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Speaker 4: job eighty five percent of the time and fucked up

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Speaker 4: fifteen percent of time.

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Speaker 3: That is a perfect mom because.

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Speaker 4: It's inous, because it's impossible to be one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: write one hundred percent on one hundred percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: So that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 4: So a perfect mom is actually what comes next with

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Speaker 4: ten percent fuck ups ninety percent incredible great mom, then

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Speaker 4: that's a perfect mom. So I think we have to

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Speaker 4: shift the way we think about good mom or perfect mom,

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Speaker 4: or good sister, perfect sister, good husband, perfect husband. It's

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Speaker 4: like it's there's always a small amount of fuck ups

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Speaker 4: in there, and that's part of being a perfect human,

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Speaker 4: Like we're all perfectly human.

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Speaker 3: So I think the more we think of it that way, the.

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Speaker 4: Less we go like, oh, well that that doesn't sit

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Speaker 4: wrong with me because I couldn't have buked up. Yeah

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Speaker 4: you did, you did, and it's part of it's part

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Speaker 4: of the normalcy of it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Maybe shocked to hear this, but I do make this.

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Speaker 3: Not Mandy, No, No, I'm talking about other moms.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about you girls holding my raggedy broken

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Speaker 1: microphone for the umpteenth time, talking about I should have

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Speaker 1: replaced this by now.

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Speaker 3: What you switched hands.

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Speaker 4: You switched hands holding the micro earlier, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: she's still holding that thing.

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Speaker 3: A lot going on.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the cinnamon rolls I made? I can

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Speaker 1: be put together a lot in my life. Still not

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Speaker 1: have the damn screws from my show actually pays my

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Speaker 1: bills I should get.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ship you a little little di'd you call

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Speaker 4: it the little stand, the little mic stand.

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Speaker 3: Then you just screw under it and thet's see.

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Speaker 1: If I got it. I just missing the screws I ordered.

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Speaker 1: I ordered a little pack before while it was before

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Speaker 1: I started the show, So.

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Speaker 3: You got any Friday deal? Okay? Should out be n h?

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Speaker 1: Well should we take a little break out and come

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Speaker 1: back and do brown boost brown break?

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Speaker 3: Let's do it?

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Speaker 1: Sounded so. I also haven't shouted out listener reviews yet.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that on the other side of this

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Speaker 1: break be right back by a fam All right, we're back.

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Speaker 1: Dan Ellie is sipping out her disco ball. It's very cute.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you know what it reminds me of

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Speaker 1: It was a little coconut on because yes it does.

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Speaker 2: Okay it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a warm tea. Now it's a cold tea.

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Speaker 3: But I will say it's just it's just so much fun.

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Speaker 4: It made me think like, oh, you know what, why

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Speaker 4: can't a cup be a little globe?

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Speaker 3: Like why do we think that things have to be

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Speaker 3: a certain way? That's why I like. It made me

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Speaker 3: think different.

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Speaker 1: Your cabinets rectangular? You know, they need to have more

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Speaker 1: corners more It could be it could be over.

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Speaker 4: Over, they could be heart shaped, o who shaped like,

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Speaker 4: we could be creative, you know, whatever you would, whatever

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Speaker 4: you want.

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Speaker 1: Husbands put me on a band of buying new vessels

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Speaker 1: for beverages. He's like, we have enough vessels, vessels. There's

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Speaker 1: so many ways to drink drinks in my house.

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Speaker 2: You got enough cups at certain point, you got enough cups.

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Speaker 1: Every incoming typical question that really there is no right

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Speaker 1: or wrong answer there is. I did see Stanley, like

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Speaker 1: a real Stanley at home Goods for like twenty bucks,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, the Stanley, you know, crazes. We've

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Speaker 1: We've done the full circle. Now it is a bargain

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Speaker 1: product at home Goods.

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Speaker 2: That's said it was crazy. I might people know this

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Speaker 2: is just a cup, right, I get it.

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Speaker 4: I never got into it, but I will say, even

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Speaker 4: twenty dollars for one of those things, I'm like, the hell,

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Speaker 4: I'm not paying twenty dollars for that?

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Speaker 2: You crazy water there?

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Speaker 3: For some water there.

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Speaker 4: I get those free every time I go to a conference, Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm not paying twain dollars for one

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Speaker 4: of those cups.

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Speaker 3: I get them free.

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Speaker 1: You going to a nice conference all the conferences.

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Speaker 4: They be giving out the little water bottles and keep

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Speaker 4: your stuff hot or cold.

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Speaker 1: I just get I got kind of excited for like

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Speaker 1: what twenty twenty six outside it's going to be like

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Speaker 1: because I'm going I'm going to more things than ever

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 3: And that's why you need the vessels. You take something

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Speaker 3: with you, you know, you switch it up.

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Speaker 1: I gotta stay hydrated. My only resolution is to continue

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01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: getting good sleep. I'm a seapop queen now and it's

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01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: my favorite accessory I love for except for the neck

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01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: pain it causes. But we worked that out. We worked

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Speaker 1: it out. No, I have a whole like support system

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01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: now for the hosiery. All right, sleep and sleep in

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Speaker 1: peace and hydration. Back to basic baby listen.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, I'm so with that.

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Speaker 1: So with that all that the basics, well I want

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Speaker 1: to do. I want to do listener shout outs really quick,

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Speaker 1: actually before we get into brown Boost Brown Break, because

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Speaker 1: we had some new comments on YouTube y'all. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we're almost at like six thousand YouTubers, which is to me,

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Speaker 1: it feels like a win.

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Speaker 3: That is a weird. It's very hard to even cross

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Speaker 3: a thousand on YouTube. It's really hard. That's consider.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we really didn't. I really didn't spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time investing in YouTube and till like the

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Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, that's my YouTube fan. But on

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Speaker 1: a recent episode, we had, uh, we had Jodyanne Buret,

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Speaker 1: who wrote a book called Authentic, which was all about

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Speaker 1: her experience as a black woman being disabled in corporate

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Speaker 1: America and like whether or not what does it mean

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Speaker 1: to bring your authentic self to work and how it

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Speaker 1: really bit her you know, in the you know where

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Speaker 1: in some parts of her career. It was a wonderful

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Speaker 1: episode and on YouTube, commenter at Radio City ninety six said,

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Speaker 1: this episode really saved me from a mental breakdown. I

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Speaker 1: thought I was alone in my journey being disabled black

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Speaker 1: and in DEI workspaces that were ironically not built for us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both for being this light in what feels

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Speaker 1: like an empty dark cave for people in general, but

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Speaker 1: for me today.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, that is so sweet.

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Speaker 1: That was really sweet. That it's always hard to have

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Speaker 1: those kinds of conversations and like know how to do

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Speaker 1: it in the right way. So I'm just glad anybody

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01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: resonated with that episode and what Jodianne had to say

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Speaker 1: because her book was Yeah, it was really really good

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Speaker 1: again it's called Authentic and her name is Jodyanne Buret.

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Speaker 1: And then I had Amina. Oh sorry, a'mnna I keep

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Speaker 1: messing up. I'm gonna Altai, who is the author of

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Speaker 1: the Ambition Trap come on the show and listener Sue

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Speaker 1: Han Okay, how do I do this? Sue hanne Ci

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Speaker 1: Fernando on YouTube said, this is so great. Thank you

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01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: so much for this video. I relate one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: with Amana's experience in terms of career, and this is

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Speaker 1: probably the best thing I've had to hear in a

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Speaker 1: long time. Thank you for inspiring me. YouTuber. Y'all commenters

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Speaker 1: on YouTube are so nice. So YouTube supposed to be scary, there's.

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Speaker 3: So nice on the.

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Speaker 4: It's like those sour Patch kids. It's like the sweet

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Speaker 4: carments are super sweet, but the sour ones are really

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Speaker 4: sad wish.

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Speaker 3: So you just got to stay away from the negative

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Speaker 3: comments because they get real bad. But the good ones are.

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Speaker 1: Just many many. I'm really happy with ba Fam.

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Speaker 4: That's a sign that you're doing things right on YouTube

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Speaker 4: because some people are quite great.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying, but thank y'all so much. Ba Fam for

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Speaker 1: your comments and your reviews and all of the things.

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Speaker 1: Love y'all so so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Do y'all have a little something prepared? Do you want

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Speaker 1: me to offer up?

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Speaker 3: I can start my boost.

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Speaker 4: You know, my brown boost is that I got this book,

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Speaker 4: Priceless Facts about Money, which is written by Melody Hobson.

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Speaker 4: If y'all don't know her, she's incredible. She is the

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: leader at Ariel Investments, which is the first ever black

1511
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 4: brokerage firm, black lead and owned brokerage firm signed by

1512
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 4: Melody Hobson.

1513
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: Well you got to meet her.

1514
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 3: I got to meet her.

1515
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 4: And the boost that I'm boosting is not only her

1516
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 4: book is really awesome and I bought a copy for

1517
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: all my nieces and nephews, but it's a children's book

1518
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 4: called press Facts about Money, which is really a great

1519
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 4: for a great book for adults to learn, but also

1520
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: for the kids too. But you know, she did the

1521
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 4: thing where you kind of like throw some veggies into

1522
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 4: the burger meet and then like you know.

1523
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's really for adults, but it's great for kids.

1524
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 4: And when I met her was an incredible opportunity because

1525
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 4: we were doing a documentary about financial education, and she

1526
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 4: has a school in Chicago that they actually fund with

1527
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 4: like forty thousand dollars every year for each graduating class,

1528
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 4: and they get to invest that money and then it

1529
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 4: grows and then it actually helps them pay for college

1530
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 4: and like different things in the kids future, which is amazing.

1531
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 4: So we were interviewing her about that model, and then

1532
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 4: later on I got to interview her for a teacher

1533
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: conference where she was a keynote speaker, and I got

1534
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 4: to interview her for the fireside chat. Next week on

1535
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 4: the MGPF podcast, We're going to be posting the conversation

1536
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 4: of me interviewing Melody Apps And which is crazy that

1537
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 4: I'm even saying that right now, Like I interview, Melody

1538
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 4: talks icon she's iconic.

1539
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 3: But if you don't already know her, definitely follow her.

1540
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: And if you're looking for a really good book about money,

1541
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: the history of money and just like financial facts and

1542
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 4: like banks and like cash and all the different things

1543
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 4: that used to be money. And just in a way

1544
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 4: that's such a fun story because it's woven of the

1545
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: story of her childhood as well as her the co

1546
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: leader that she works with the Aerial Investments both of them,

1547
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: two young black kids talking to each other about money,

1548
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: teaching each other about money facts, and it's just so

1549
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 4: much fun.

1550
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 3: So it's called Pricess Facts about Money. And you know

1551
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: we love Melody House.

1552
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: Since you saying reminded me about that, I forgot about that.

1553
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: So good.

1554
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: Because what age ranger are we talking about?

1555
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: I would say definitely probably like six and up, five

1556
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: or six and up, because if you're like two or

1557
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 4: three years old, it's kind of hard to understand some

1558
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 4: of the financial concepts.

1559
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 3: But it could work.

1560
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 4: I mean if they're a little mature, but I would

1561
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 4: say definitely, like kindergarten it up.

1562
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Rio just thinks money is something he finds

1563
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: on the floor if he's lucky.

1564
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 4: You know what Peo might like, though, you know what

1565
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 4: real might like. Though in the book I'll show you

1566
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: the inside has.

1567
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: These really cool pop outs, like.

1568
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: He's if you're looking at this on social media, you

1569
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: see the video these pop open, so he would like

1570
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: to see the history of money from the time of

1571
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 4: dinosaurs all the way to like.

1572
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: Me help I can get I love it.

1573
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 3: That is really fun. So the little littles might love that,

1574
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 3: But the text.

1575
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 4: Is a little dense, so you'd have to obviously read

1576
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 4: aloud to him and then like you might check out

1577
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 4: after a while.

1578
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 3: Kindergarten up definitely a lot to learn, for sure.

1579
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: Riel's like, Mommy, why don't we live in a mansion.

1580
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not file us away for questions answer related.

1581
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 3: Let's put that. Let's put a bit in that. Baby,

1582
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 3: this is a mansion.

1583
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what houses Constant twenty five exactly. That

1584
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: was a job. Okay, So I didn't know you guys

1585
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: had a podcast. What's it called.

1586
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just for teachers.

1587
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: It's called the n GPF podcast Next Gear Personal Finance

1588
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 4: and nonprofit that I work with where we have one

1589
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,959
Speaker 4: hundred thousand teachers across the country that teach financial literacy.

1590
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 3: In middle school and high school.

1591
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: So we give them free resources, you know, curriculum training,

1592
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 4: professional development sessions online and in person, and then we

1593
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: host these conferences twice a year, once in April for

1594
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 4: Financial Literacy Month and once in August for back to school.

1595
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: And the one that we just held this past August

1596
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 3: was for back to school. The keynot speaker was Melthy

1597
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 3: Hopson and she was amazing, amazing.

1598
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: That's my favorite part of your interview on today, not

1599
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 1: when you like acknowledged all the incredible teachers that you

1600
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: get to work with.

1601
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're amazing.

1602
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 4: They're working so damn hard, and you know, a lot

1603
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 4: of times it's just like being a parent. You work, work, work,

1604
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 4: whereere nobody stops and say thank you. So it's yeah,

1605
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: amazing unsung heroes for sure.

1606
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: All Right, did you have a boost? I mean, sorry,

1607
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: a break?

1608
01:10:59,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1609
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna go back to I'm gonna go back

1610
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 4: to what I said earlier. My break is why why

1611
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 4: are we spending so much money on Black Friday breaking records.

1612
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: When we are not doing We're not.

1613
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't want nothing.

1614
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't want y'all spending record highs. I want y'all

1615
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 3: spending record lows or record mediums.

1616
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:26,480
Speaker 2: Okay, because might be the best.

1617
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: The best at saying and investing. Yes.

1618
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, for the holidays, when we were doing

1619
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 4: the little photoshoot thing with my family, I had a

1620
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 4: chance to like, I was like, oh, I want to

1621
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: request one a solo shot, like for my little self PTRA.

1622
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 4: And then I was like, wait, can I get one

1623
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 4: just me with all my nieces and nephews and so

1624
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: I got a picture with all ten of my niece

1625
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 4: and nephews, and when I looked at it afterwards, I

1626
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 4: was like me and all my five twenty nine contributions,

1627
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 4: It's like.

1628
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: God, bless you. I wish. I keep sending the link around,

1629
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: but people don't want to contribute. They want to know

1630
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: that they opened up their ridiculous hot wheels. So like police.

1631
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: For I can help listen on their birthday card.

1632
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 4: I told my sister when my niece had a birthday

1633
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 4: party last year, her eighth birthday, I told my sister

1634
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 4: on the invitation say no presence allowed this year. We

1635
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 4: are so grateful for all of your contributions into her

1636
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 4: five twenty nine college fund.

1637
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: She has a goal of hitting.

1638
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 4: Three figures, four figures and then eventually five figures next,

1639
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 4: but four figures for now, she's what eight years old?

1640
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: So we put the U gift code on there. They

1641
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 4: go to U gift dot com, they can type in

1642
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 4: the U gift code and they can contribute. So by

1643
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: making a specific goal, say hey, we're trying to hit

1644
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 4: one thousand dollars in their account. Hey, please don't buy

1645
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 4: them toys like add money.

1646
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: Help us reach this goal. That actually worked.

1647
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 4: My sister told me all the cousins instead of buying presents,

1648
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 4: some bought a present anyway on top of it. But

1649
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 4: they did put like twenty thirty fifty bucks into the

1650
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 4: five towenty nine plan.

1651
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 3: And it makes a big.

1652
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: Difference because it's like once a year every year everyone

1653
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 4: contributes instead of just mom and Dad being the only

1654
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 4: ones to add money, right, because it's a lot. So

1655
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm big on the five toy nine. I've contributed to

1656
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: all the Nissan nephews that have them. Two pieces that

1657
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 4: I have that are like only five years younger than

1658
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: me and like nine years younger than me.

1659
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 3: So I was a baby when.

1660
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: They were born, so I didn't have the money for

1661
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 4: them to but all the other ones that the littles

1662
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 4: that came later when I did have money, I was like, okay,

1663
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 4: we're doing this, and I've helped them set up the accounts,

1664
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: and I tell everybody that you gift codes every year.

1665
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 4: I remind them for the holidays post in the family

1666
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 4: what's that chat? All of you gift codes again? Put

1667
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 4: them in here again. I always remind them every year.

1668
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: So it's just you know, got to make it a thing.

1669
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: You got to push it until people go like, Okay,

1670
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 4: we'll respect your wish and we'll do this thing.

1671
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: They really do be acting like taking something from them,

1672
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: like what do you know you can give a gift

1673
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: to tell?

1674
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 4: But you know that TikTok that's going viral is where

1675
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 4: you ask the kid, hey baby, what did you get

1676
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 4: last year for Christmas?

1677
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: And what do the kids say?

1678
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 2: Oh?

1679
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: I remember?

1680
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 4: So yeah, they don't know, and they damn sure will

1681
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 4: be grateful when they're going to college and see that

1682
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 4: you put you know, thousands of dollars in their five

1683
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 4: twenty nine.

1684
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: Oh, they sure will.

1685
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: It's just delayed.

1686
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: It's delayed gratitude, not instagrams. Who you know, people don't

1687
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 3: like to delay things.

1688
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: But idea of the goal.

1689
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,839
Speaker 4: I do like setting alone, which will help us four figures,

1690
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: make it cute, make the goal.

1691
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: I just helped my brother and sister in law set

1692
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: up the five nine for their new little boy to

1693
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 2: had this summer. And we did as we were doing yesterday,

1694
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: let's get let's give it.

1695
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful chumpers.

1696
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: He is so freaking He's a talk.

1697
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,440
Speaker 1: Little baby, a little baby.

1698
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 3: Brown boost words of coming out of those chubby cheeks.

1699
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: I'll give you my brown Boosts. It's definitely gonna be

1700
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 2: a baby because last time Mandy hated on me for

1701
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: talking about my lovely family being my brown booth, the

1702
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: boots I have, I'm touring. I got too many things,

1703
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 2: but it's all around. The northest trip I did to

1704
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 2: the Northeast where we flew into Portland, Maine, and basic

1705
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: just drove around the Northeast, went to Vermont, went up

1706
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: to Canada, came back down. Matt Mandy New York, out

1707
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: with her for a little bit, and then ended in

1708
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: New York. I wanted it to be d n H

1709
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: Photo because that store is I would live there. I'd

1710
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: never seen an electronic store like that. I've only seen

1711
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: them online. I'm like, they got conveyor belts on the

1712
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: ceiling bringing packages. They got every headphone, microphone you've ever

1713
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: seen in your life. I won't do that, but my

1714
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: brown boost is gonna be just the whole province of Quebec, Canada.

1715
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: We drove across the border. I was nervous. I'm like,

1716
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: oh God, let me get this passport ready. Who's gon

1717
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: Who's gonna pop out the bushes? I didn't know. Hopefully

1718
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: we got in and back safely. Uh, Canada is beautiful,

1719
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: like every time I go and I'm just like, hmm,

1720
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: this is what we could have been.

1721
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 3: A little bit of that.

1722
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 2: Everybody looks everybody looks happy because they got health insurance.

1723
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: It's amazing. But anyways, it was. It was so cool.

1724
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: I've never been to Quebec and it's like the French province.

1725
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: You just go across the border and all of a sudden,

1726
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: all the signs are in French. They got you know,

1727
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: they got just Canadian stuff everywhere. I don't know, I

1728
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: don't know where to put it. I feel like it

1729
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: was amazing. We went went to Quebec City and didn't

1730
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: even know that was a city before I started doing

1731
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: some research. It's this magical little city that's like three

1732
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: hours like northeast of Montreal, and it feels like you're

1733
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: like in I was like, I was like, am I

1734
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: in Disneyland. It's like it's like these cobblestone streets, these

1735
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: like old stone buildings. It is just beautiful. It's cold.

1736
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: I love being cold. I had to learn a little

1737
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: bit of French because but most people spoke English. It

1738
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: was very rare when I ran across someone who didn't

1739
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 2: speak English, but it was It's such a cool experience

1740
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: because I've done very little traveling internationally, so for me,

1741
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 2: this was my first real experience of being like, I'm

1742
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: somewhere where English is not the first language.

1743
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: I love that.

1744
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: It was so cool to be like, oh, let me

1745
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: just try to speak another language. Let me learn what

1746
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be doing.

1747
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: Lingo, little lingo.

1748
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: My brown break is ding lingo, because I was.

1749
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: Like, I'm accent.

1750
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 2: I have got to learn a little French.

1751
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: For language.

1752
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: French is hard because they just ignore a bunch of

1753
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: letters for some reason, and you're like, wow, these letters there,

1754
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: they don't say any of them.

1755
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: Ain't that?

1756
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,440
Speaker 3: But that's true. Similar to Spanish.

1757
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 4: If you if you know a little Spanish, French is

1758
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 4: a little easier.

1759
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I do. I do. I know a

1760
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: little Spanish. So some of the words are similar, structures

1761
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: a little similar. But du a Lingo. They're teaching me

1762
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: stuff like, well, the first thing they taught me was

1763
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: how to say horse. It was cheval and I'm like,

1764
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: what am I going to say horse? Why is this

1765
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 2: one of the first words you're teaching me. I'm not

1766
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 2: I saw no horses. The whole time I was there,

1767
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: I never once had to say horse to somebody.

1768
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: You need to do lessons that are focused on the

1769
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: right context, you know, like traveling abroad. Yeah, organized like

1770
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: cooking with your you know your's true.

1771
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 3: They should organize it that way.

1772
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 4: That's a good point, instead of putting it in like

1773
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 4: their perceived order of vocabulary random and then yeah, that's

1774
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: a good point.

1775
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1776
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: It took forever friends to teach me how to say

1777
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: am like I'm American, or how do you I speak?

1778
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 2: I speak English? Like it took me. I had to

1779
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: learn all about horses, cats and dogs for the first

1780
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: three three words I learned. I'm like Luha's.

1781
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: You just walk around with the Google thing, the Google

1782
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: translator like here, it can listen to your voice and

1783
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: then dictate it back.

1784
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 3: You know that thing, listen, I give that thing.

1785
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 4: When I was in Japan, and let me tell you,

1786
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: I was able to speak with the Uber drivers and

1787
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 4: they were so nice once we were able to do it.

1788
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 3: At first, it were like angry and mean because I

1789
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 3: didn't speak any Japanese. And the moment I busted out

1790
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,839
Speaker 3: the app and said we are going to the airport,

1791
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 3: can you take that out. And then he heard the

1792
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: Japanese on the phone. He was like he lit up.

1793
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: It was so happy. I said, Oh, we are using

1794
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,919
Speaker 3: this thing because.

1795
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: It's stressful when you're like trying to just have like

1796
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: normal you know, help somebody normally, but you can't communicate. Yeah,

1797
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm done for any cheese.

1798
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: Good. The air pods they have their translation in them

1799
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 2: now too, where it'll it wouldn't help you speak it,

1800
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: but help you understand what is what they're.

1801
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: Saying to you.

1802
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know, hope I deserve I don't know. I

1803
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: can't buy anymore. I can't justify three hundred dollars for

1804
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: air like I've lost so many pairs.

1805
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: Same you get the cheap one, don't get the three

1806
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 2: hundred do Let's get that.

1807
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 3: We don't have the translation.

1808
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: That's why I have. I have the cheaper ones and

1809
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 2: the well which one is that? Which I mean relatively

1810
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: they're in they're like one hundred and thirty something like that.

1811
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean three if.

1812
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: You have a pop one, I lose one of them,

1813
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: like I surely will.

1814
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: Right right, No, But you know what now, the good

1815
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 4: thing is because I almost lost this on the plane

1816
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: on a flight back from Thanksgiving back to Miami. It

1817
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 4: had you know, on your phone, you can pull up

1818
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 4: the thing and make it, make it make a little sound.

1819
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 4: So I was able to find it before I got

1820
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: off the plane.

1821
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: Thanks goodness.

1822
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: One of my knockoff air pods is in Miami. I

1823
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: lost it.

1824
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: Oh oh, it's in my apartment. It's sitting up some here.

1825
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: It's in the hotel wherever it was at. Oh got it.

1826
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 3: That's a cute one.

1827
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: That's cute. I could not find it.

1828
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, it'd be like that, but that sounds amazing.

1829
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 4: I'm out in Quebec City to my list, because we've

1830
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 4: been talking about going like colder places because obviously we

1831
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 4: live in Miami, so it's always warm down here. So

1832
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 4: it's like and we're from the Caribbean, so it's like, okay,

1833
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 4: we're either going to take a trip that we already

1834
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 4: know well, another tropical trip, or we're gonna try cold trips.

1835
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 4: So we were thinking about like making a big trip

1836
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 4: like Antarctica, but I think Quebec City sounds more doable, So.

1837
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: That one's my list. And Argentina and never done the

1838
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: whole like Torrest, still pine, like that whole, like southern.

1839
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: Close, and you're so freaking close.

1840
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: I was in Buenos Aires earlier this year and I

1841
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 4: was like, I could literally go right there, just south a.

1842
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 3: Little bit, but I had to be back for an event.

1843
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't make it work. But yeah, I'm with you.

1844
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, we're so close, Like let's just

1845
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: go right and just do that trip.

1846
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 4: But I yeah, I'm gonna add colder trips to the

1847
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 4: list because I feel like if I'm gonna enjoy warm

1848
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 4: weather all year long, I got to switch it up

1849
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 4: when I go and take these trips.

1850
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 3: Try some yeah.

1851
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: Different, you have to wear a jacket, weird.

1852
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't blame you, girl. I don't miss

1853
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: that cold that.

1854
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: You can be a little snow birds when you want

1855
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: to be.

1856
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 4: As soon as we landed and I got off the

1857
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 4: plane and I felt that chill, that cold on my neck,

1858
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,799
Speaker 4: I was like, and I don't miss living here at.

1859
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: All, period period.

1860
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: So Canada for Chris, very unpatriotic of you, but sure, yeah,

1861
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: we love Canadians are so nice. All right, I'm gonna

1862
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: do a break for, first of all, justice for cream

1863
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: of mushroom soup because y'all saw this this VP at Campbell's.

1864
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: That did you?

1865
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: Okay?

1866
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: So he was recorded on I don't know who've recorded him,

1867
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: but I love it. I love the pettiness. It was

1868
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: probably one of those like zoom calls that's recorded and

1869
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: they still be talking out there, you know, talking out

1870
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,520
Speaker 1: the side of their mouth. They sure do not recognizing

1871
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: that someone could send this clip to the internet. They

1872
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: could go viral. But yeah, this guy was If you

1873
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: haven't listened to it, I'll post a clip more.

1874
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Even though I look at it and bio engineered me.

1875
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't want you.

1876
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 3: Don't you said, chicken?

1877
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 2: It came from a three D priner.

1878
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: You basically saying that y'all know our products are terrible.

1879
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: They're made for poor people. I don't even buy this stuff.

1880
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: And it was really one I think offensive to anyone

1881
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: who like, like this is just a key ingredient. And

1882
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: and I'm from like I have my Midwestern roots and

1883
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: my mom's side in my southern roots, and I'm like,

1884
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we can agree on is you

1885
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: need a condensed soup somewhere in your holiday recipe, whether

1886
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: you're making your cream, your French and what's with the

1887
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: bean of the green bean cast role, you know, or

1888
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: you're making like like a my mom used to do

1889
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: like again another like broccoli chicken triuscut castrole. It sounds insane.

1890
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: That was one of the first things I learned how

1891
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: to make in college.

1892
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever had a casserole in my life.

1893
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 3: This castro is never.

1894
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: I was wondering what I'm gonna tell I'm gonna have

1895
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,959
Speaker 1: to teach you how to make a chicken triscuit casserole

1896
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: someday it's so good, I'll little cream of chicken soup.

1897
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: But there's chicken in there. I'm good. If it's green

1898
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 3: bean cast role, I'm a past.

1899
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: Sound good green bean castrole. I feel like I prefer

1900
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: Christian onions on top.

1901
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 3: Okay, but I want the green beans to be crispy

1902
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 3: and crunchy.

1903
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be saved. I'm willing to

1904
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: try it, but you don't need no crispy green roll.

1905
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: Green bean castrole is just not a thing. It's impossible.

1906
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: They have to be they have to be succulent, satiny.

1907
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: It's almost like.

1908
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 4: But I feel like that's the problem with cast roles,

1909
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: because cast roles make everything when she creamy, so it's like,

1910
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 4: I don't.

1911
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: Know, you agree with this VP at Campbell's who said

1912
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: it's like bad poor people food. Is that what you're saying.

1913
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying I don't know why we need to

1914
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 4: make so many different variety of cast roles.

1915
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1916
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: Wow, it's the sustenance of a generation or the holidays

1917
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: is when I can embrace my cast role roots, like

1918
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 1: my sister makes us in credible like cornbread stuffing like

1919
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: castrole type thing and it's just a big, like you know,

1920
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: a big rectangular pot or a round pot of some

1921
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: kind of mush that you know is indistinguishable and you

1922
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: don't can't tell what every single ingredient is and you

1923
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: just put it on your plate and it's warm and comforting,

1924
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: and like.

1925
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 3: Are you trying to sell this to me or you

1926
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: trying to No?

1927
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 1: I am, but you have to like if you know,

1928
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, that's just like a spoonful

1929
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: of slot.

1930
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: Do you want a casse role or do you want

1931
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: one of those? Who was that jello salads we were

1932
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: talking about before.

1933
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: The jello salad, Oh my god, the jello salad you're

1934
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: talking about? Warm? You know, something warm like a bread.

1935
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 3: Por bread pudding sounds good, but.

1936
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: No marshmallow, no mayo, I don't be no none of that.

1937
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 1: But the Campbell soup can it's just like a stable.

1938
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: It was growing up for me. But anyway, this guy

1939
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: was fired. I'm all for. Like, I do think this

1940
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: is a brand that because so many households have used

1941
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: it for generations, like they should be looking at their

1942
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: ingredients and it should it should contain you know, like

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Speaker 1: natural ingredients and not whatever preservatives surely are keeping that

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Speaker 1: can like solidified and so then you dump it out,

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Speaker 1: it's the exact same shape as it can, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can be But like the way that I think

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Speaker 1: this is like really probably the way that a lot

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Speaker 1: of executives are talking about y'all behind your backs, consumers

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Speaker 1: getting for dumb you know, especially you know, very like

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Speaker 1: more budget friendly products, Like yeah, they're probably all talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, talking about us in this way. And

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Speaker 1: I just think it's great that he got caught, great

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Speaker 1: that they fired him. Shout out to Campbell's for doing

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Speaker 1: the only thing they possibly could, which is to fire.

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Speaker 4: No absolutely not please and honestly even high end products too.

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Speaker 4: I mean you hear all the stories all the time

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Speaker 4: about how these people who created iPads never let their

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Speaker 4: kids on on iPad.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, you know what, y'all be making this

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Speaker 3: stuff for us, but how.

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Speaker 4: Don't we You know, it's all that, it's very questionable,

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Speaker 4: but I one hundred percent agree about the ingredients. There

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Speaker 4: was a post I saw recently about the people who

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Speaker 4: say like, we grew up eating this and we're fine,

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Speaker 4: and then they go, no, you didn't, and they show

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Speaker 4: what the ingredient.

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Speaker 3: List used to look like on these products and what

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Speaker 3: they are now. Oh my gosh, the difference is just,

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Speaker 3: oh god, it's reprehensible. I mean, it's awful.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'd be making my own bread now, y'all, girl,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even mad at it would be only three

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Speaker 1: ingredients flower, yeese, salt, okay, four with water.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not even mad at your girl. I

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Speaker 4: might have some of that bread when you're ready, share,

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Speaker 4: share some of.

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Speaker 3: That this way. You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't usually baked bread, but I am curious. I've

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Speaker 4: been seeing a lot of people on social media posts

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Speaker 4: like different.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to make a big bread.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a break bread baker either, I just used

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01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: it for a comedic effect, but because it takes so

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01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: long and it is delicious, But I'm like, eh, and

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Speaker 1: there's lots of bakeries that are doing great work, you

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Speaker 1: know what i mean.

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Speaker 3: Support your local, right, you can get a loaf of

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Speaker 3: breath for like three.

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Speaker 1: Cents, I'm saying, and versus four hours of the time

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01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: it takes and the stress because what if it doesn't rise?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like it's it's a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I just do it for like the the the

1992
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Speaker 1: more like the journey, not the destination. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Support your local bakers. Please go buy

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Speaker 1: from them this holiday season. They're doing incredible work. Support

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Speaker 1: all right, Well that is my break and my boost.

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Speaker 1: Oh I had a boost, and now I forget what

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I understand I did give you.

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Speaker 1: I was very nice. I talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Right, She's like I already mentioned it. What you know what.

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Speaker 1: I would love, though, is like a trip that doesn't

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Speaker 1: involve my children, because the last two times I've seen you,

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Speaker 1: it's been like with my kids each time, like we

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01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: don't actually get to like catch up, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's fair, doesn't really care because you're because your mommy mode,

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Speaker 4: your mommy mode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to be fair, I'm dying to be like ripped away,

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01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, and like let me let me buy it,

2010
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: let me spend one hundred dollars on a sitter. I'd

2011
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: love to just to get like real quality time. I

2012
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend over, one of my very good friends

2013
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: for years since college this past weekend. We both have

2014
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: kids the same age. I couldn't tell you one thing

2015
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: new about her life not but we are. Oh that

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01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: was my boost. Is going to be me and her

2017
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Speaker 1: and another friend. We are doing like a mini little

2018
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: writing retreat for three days. We're going to the beach

2019
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: in the winter, which is a great writing environment. It's

2020
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna be Myrtle Beach for three or four days, and

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01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna it'll be the first time we've like hung

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Speaker 1: out without the kids. And I don't even know how ever,

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01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: since we had kids. But I am excited for that

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 1: because I have to have ob basically the book to

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,520
Speaker 1: work on, and yeah, I'm definitely craving some time away

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Speaker 1: to miss my family.

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Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a two day writing retreat and

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Speaker 4: one of those days is going to be catch up

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Speaker 4: and hang out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, the like working during the day and

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Speaker 1: then like having these beautiful, like grown up dinners at

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Speaker 1: night time. Maybe I'll put on like proper pants that

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Speaker 1: zip and like it'll be great. I'm really really in

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Speaker 1: that danger zone of like who am I because it's

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: like feeling much more you stay at home mom than

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Speaker 1: stay at home mom pretty worth these days, which is lovely.

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Speaker 1: But also I'm really looking forward to just having that

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Speaker 1: like friend girlfriend only grown up lady time before the

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Speaker 1: end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I love that, love that for y'all.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank y'all both. It's been so long since we

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Speaker 1: had a brown table. I really missed y'all. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming back.

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Speaker 3: I know I definitely did. Michelle.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh when I saw you message and

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Speaker 4: we're like, oh, we're gonna do one. When I was like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, it's been a minute.

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Speaker 3: It has been a minute too many, too many minutes.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad to have y'all be a fam.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for supporting this show. Hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 1: If you did, don't forget to share it with a friend,

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Speaker 1: Love love to hear from y'all. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm planning twenty twenty six content and y'all already have

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Speaker 1: sent me some really good content ideas. But I would

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Speaker 1: love to know what conversations y'all want to hear in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six so I can start putting that together

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Speaker 1: and Chris make sure you go follow them Chris at

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Speaker 1: Gen PF as well. All right, y'all take care, hie,

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Speaker 1: so you hey ba fam. Let's be real for a second,

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Speaker 1: and y'all know I keep it a book. Job market

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Speaker 1: has been brutal, now not brutal trash, especially for women

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Speaker 1: of color. Over three hundred thousand of US have disappeared

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Speaker 1: from the workforce this year alone, and not by choice,

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Speaker 1: but because of layoffs, disappearing DEI programs, and stagnant wages

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Speaker 1: that keep cutting us out of opportunity. Our unemployment rate

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Speaker 1: has jumped to over seven percent, while our pay gap

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Speaker 1: continues to widen. I know all of that sounds dire,

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Speaker 1: but here's what I want y'all to know. You do

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Speaker 1: not have to wait for the system to save you.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly why I created the Mandy money Makers Group

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Speaker 1: coaching community. It is a coaching community that is built

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Speaker 1: for us by us. Inside the community, we're not just

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Speaker 1: talking about how to negotiate or to how to get

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Speaker 1: the job that you want. It's about finding purpose in

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Speaker 1: your career. It's about finding communities and others, feeling seen,

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Speaker 1: feeling heard, and also having a sounding board and a

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Speaker 1: mirror to reflect your own magic, your own sparkle right

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Speaker 1: back to yourself health. In this community, you'll get group

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Speaker 1: coaching led by me, but you also get peer to

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Speaker 1: peer accountability with proven tools and resources that can help

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Speaker 1: you do what we have always done since rise. Even

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Speaker 1: when the odds are stacked against us, despite all the challenges,

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Speaker 1: we will rise. If you're interested in joining the Mandy

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Speaker 1: money Makers community and having that support to bolster you

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Speaker 1: and help you tap back into your magic so that

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01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: you can lead your career with intention and heart and

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Speaker 1: your own intuition. Trusting that again, please join us. You

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Speaker 1: can find information in the show notes of today's episodes,

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Speaker 1: or go to mandymoney dot com slash community. That's Mandy

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Speaker 1: m A n d I money dot com slash community.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see y'all there. Enrollment is open,

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Speaker 1: Okay va fan, thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 1: this show. I want to shout out to our production team, Courtney,

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Speaker 1: our editor, Carla, our fearless leader for idea to launch productions.

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Speaker 1: I want to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and

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Speaker 1: Cameron McNair for helping me put the show together. It

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Speaker 1: is not a one person project, as much as I

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Speaker 1: have tried to make it so these past ten years.

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Speaker 1: I need help, y'all, and thank goodness I've been able

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Speaker 1: to put this team around me to support me on

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Speaker 1: this journey and to y'all bea fam. I love you

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Speaker 1: so so so so much. Please rate, review, subscribe, make

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