Speaker 1: Hello friends, and welcome into leading off right here on
Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. I am Chris Welsh. That is the case Bubba,
Speaker 1: Case Bubba in the house where we got a lot
Speaker 1: for you on trade deadline day. Hopefully we're going to
Speaker 1: get some movers and shakers maybe while we're doing the show,
Speaker 1: but we've got some trades to break down. We have
Speaker 1: one of the worst trades we have seen in years
Speaker 1: actually go down yesterday, and a whole lot more Casey
Speaker 1: Bubba representing those giants as you guys, traded off Jorge
Speaker 1: Solaire for a bag of nothing, actually a.
Speaker 2: Whole lot of nothing. My friend, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. We're back, we're doing it, and yeah, that
Speaker 2: trade just happened to drop on Monday night just in
Speaker 2: time for me to show up and be so happy about.
Speaker 1: It and totally not be upset or angry about it.
Speaker 2: But no lot angry at all.
Speaker 1: Let's start on the positive. Let's be super happy because
Speaker 1: there is something to be happy about. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Corby Carrol is back, except he's hitting two fifteen. Corbyn
Speaker 1: Carrol last night. Yes, we'll talk about trades with a
Speaker 1: walk off Homer for the Arizona Diamondbacks. They came back
Speaker 1: back back the answer Backs as they're known out here.
Speaker 1: Corby and Carrol comes up, pinch hits and smashes a
Speaker 1: homer to right field. Here's I mean. Here's also why
Speaker 1: he's not back. He's hitting two fifteen still in the
Speaker 1: month of July. He has consistently been hitting that. But
Speaker 1: he now in July has six home runs. That is
Speaker 1: triple what he had all the other months combined. Six
Speaker 1: home runs. Bubba even said something interesting off air where
Speaker 1: he goes, well, he's hitting those homers and not a
Speaker 1: good average. He's not stealing bases. Here's a fun fact.
Speaker 1: He has the most stolen bases in any given month
Speaker 1: right now. So that is currently happening. Last night, Bubba
Speaker 1: Corbyn Carroll took one off the bat one nine. That
Speaker 1: was the exit velocity and eighteen degree launch angle one
Speaker 1: oh nine point five. He put that in the stands.
Speaker 1: My friend, that feels good. So I ask you, is
Speaker 1: Corbyn Carroll back even though he's hitting two fifteen, but
Speaker 1: all the other stuff is starting to look pretty.
Speaker 2: He's on his way back. He's showing signs of being back,
Speaker 2: but the consistency's not there. We talked about it off air.
Speaker 2: If he's even hitting two fifty, we're talking maybe seven
Speaker 2: home runs and double digit steals. Now he's back like that.
Speaker 2: You want the steals with Carrol, the powers extra, but
Speaker 2: the average comes with the steels, run scored, so on
Speaker 2: and so forth. So when he's back, he'll be back
Speaker 2: at the top of the order for the d Backs
Speaker 2: and he'll be producing. So he's working his way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, hey, listen, who is it that
Speaker 1: just did that? I get it. Someone least said only
Speaker 1: Welsh would start off Carol on a huge home run,
Speaker 1: on the home run on deadline day. Yes, but there's
Speaker 1: no current rage and there's no insan. But I want
Speaker 1: to point out this is like a trade deadline getting.
Speaker 1: If you were to get Corbyn Carroll back, I will
Speaker 1: tell you the ball has been up in the zone
Speaker 1: and Corbyn Carroll has finally been making contact. Everybody has
Speaker 1: been attacking Corbyn Carrol high this entire season, and now
Speaker 1: he is making hard, consistent contact. He even said on
Speaker 1: the homer last night in the post game, he said
Speaker 1: that was probably the best swing I've had all seasons.
Speaker 1: So confident, confidence is high. I repeat confidence is high.
Speaker 1: God Corbyn Carrol won on nine off the bat he
Speaker 1: might just be back. It is trade deadline day. As mentioned,
Speaker 1: we had a couple of trades that happened between the
Speaker 1: show yesterday and what's going down today. There are lots
Speaker 1: of rumors, so let's talk about a few of them
Speaker 1: in what I don't want to like. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be over zealous about my take on some of
Speaker 1: this stuff, but I'm not trying to parbolyze this. But
Speaker 1: the use Kakuchi trade makes zero sense, that much sense,
Speaker 1: and is one of the worst trades on paper that
Speaker 1: I've seen in a long time. The Houston Astros traded
Speaker 1: for Usay Kakuchi, who's a rental it's about two months.
Speaker 1: They traded Jake Bloss who was pulled from his start
Speaker 1: yesterday and didn't go. Will Wagner, who I've seen in
Speaker 1: the AFL Billy Wagner's kid. He's I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's anything special. Not to be mean to him or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but you know, there's decent power, not
Speaker 1: great contact and Joey Loper Fido Joey Loperfido thrown into
Speaker 1: that trade. Huh, it's it doesn't make any sense. Astros
Speaker 1: fans are pissed. Everybody else, you know, the initial reactions
Speaker 1: of like the diamondback aj Pak, Everyone was like, what's
Speaker 1: going on here? For Joey Loper Fido to be involved
Speaker 1: with two other prospects for a rental player, It makes
Speaker 1: no sense.
Speaker 2: Baba, Yeah, it's a huge deal for the Toronto Blue Jays,
Speaker 2: the neighbors to the north. Like getting a top one
Speaker 2: hundred prospect pitcher and Bloss you get lower Feto as
Speaker 2: you mentioned, who's like, sure he's struggled in his first
Speaker 2: cup of coffee, but the dude's good, like really good.
Speaker 2: You obviously know that as a prospect guy. The only
Speaker 2: thing I could say, and I hate rental plays. This
Speaker 2: is like what I despise talking with someone about Zach
Speaker 2: Wheeler the other day, who went in the trade for
Speaker 2: Carlos Beltran as a rental It still haunts me to
Speaker 2: this day. I hate rentals. This is what this is.
Speaker 2: But what I will give the Houston Astros is they
Speaker 2: know their window with Altuve and Brakman and all these
Speaker 2: guys is short. They desperately need starting pitching. Desperately needs
Speaker 2: starting pitching. Not saying Cacuchi's the answer, but it is
Speaker 2: a guy every fifth day who actually peripherals still look
Speaker 2: pretty good. They need them out there and they can
Speaker 2: still win the division. So I get it, and we've
Speaker 2: seen it all trade deadline, some of these big guys,
Speaker 2: relievers starting pitchers, they're coming to a premium right now.
Speaker 2: Like these guys you're having to spend to get and
Speaker 2: that's kind of rare compared to recent years. So I
Speaker 2: agree that Jay's kudos outstanding stuff as you're trying to
Speaker 2: put things back together there in Toronto. The Astros had
Speaker 2: to do with, though, is the thing. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it makes you wonder what some of these guys that
Speaker 2: are hopefully getting traded today are going to go for.
Speaker 2: If that's what Kacuci got.
Speaker 1: I should say, from a context perspective, the price of pitching,
Speaker 1: the price of relief pitching specifically, but the price of
Speaker 1: pitch it's high, it's always high. But in the same
Speaker 1: vein of like Jason here in the chat is clearly
Speaker 1: an Astros fan defending them, You kind of defended them,
Speaker 1: But in the same vein of like Frankie Montass costing
Speaker 1: Joey Weimer, like maybe you could view that is the same.
Speaker 1: There are pictures out there that could have been got
Speaker 1: at a much lower cost. I can appreciate any team
Speaker 1: going for it, and the market is the market. You know,
Speaker 1: every single picture. As they get traded, the cost is
Speaker 1: going up because there are less arms that are available
Speaker 1: and they're looking at their needs. I'm definitely not going
Speaker 1: to give them credit though, for getting rid of what
Speaker 1: probably should have been a form of a building block
Speaker 1: for that team into the future. Lubrafto had cooled off down.
Speaker 1: He's down to two seventy six in the miners. They
Speaker 1: weren't playing him a whole bunch, but really good counting stats.
Speaker 1: He did hit two thirty six when he got a
Speaker 1: little bit of the playing time. It doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: for a rental. There's no other way around it. Like
Speaker 1: there's almost anything else they should have done. Bloss and
Speaker 1: w Agner probably perceivably should have got that done unless
Speaker 1: they played chicken and they're like, hey, we got these
Speaker 1: other great offers. Kakuchi's fine. He does have a lower
Speaker 1: expected era than his actual it's four, so they probably
Speaker 1: feel there's something to work with there. His K percentage
Speaker 1: is the highest of his career. He's loaded his walks
Speaker 1: a little bit like it's decent, but it's not decent
Speaker 1: for you, say Kikuchi, who is is the ultimate rental?
Speaker 1: Like he's also he's okay and he's a rental. Like
Speaker 1: those two things should not meet. He should be like
Speaker 1: either good in a rental or you know, three years
Speaker 1: and they're okay. You shouldn't have both of those things click,
Speaker 1: especially when you give up you know, top prospect in
Speaker 1: your organization and two other pieces. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Ashlow's fans will have to deal with that. It won't
Speaker 1: matter if they win. It doesn't matter if they win,
Speaker 1: and there is a pressure to do it. I agree
Speaker 1: pitching is not cheap right now. Maybe now that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about it, if we looked at all the trades,
Speaker 1: there might have been another relief pitcher trade or two
Speaker 1: that was like, holy crap, But this one just looks
Speaker 1: bad from the rental market standpoint.
Speaker 2: But because you're seeing the top prospect name with it,
Speaker 2: that's that's the part that's studying. It's more they got
Speaker 2: quality and quantity with it. It's just weird, But hey,
Speaker 2: pedro Leone's going to get the call like that's a
Speaker 2: nice plan B for Houston. I'd say in this situation,
Speaker 2: you know you know the prospects better than I, so
Speaker 2: that seems like a fun one as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean pedro Leone is going to be decently solid.
Speaker 1: He's got swinging misissues, but he's a power speed combo.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, like I think that the
Speaker 1: bat is going to be more consistent with luper Fiedo
Speaker 1: long term, but it might be similar gameplay you're getting
Speaker 1: out of this year. It's just a weird trade. Luper
Speaker 1: Fito being involved is a weird trade, and it either
Speaker 1: tells you like A, there's a rift in the scouting
Speaker 1: department or B this is something you should You maybe
Speaker 1: should look at Luperfito and be like, oh, if the
Speaker 1: Astros really don't believe in him and they would trade
Speaker 1: him for a rental player, maybe that's a little bit
Speaker 1: more telling about his overall production hindsight. You know, two
Speaker 1: three years from now, none of those guys may be anything.
Speaker 1: Joey Luperfido might be bagging groceries at all these so
Speaker 1: it might not matter. But on paper it doesn't look good.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good, but that is also what the
Speaker 1: market is pressing and you know, I know for Astros
Speaker 1: fans at least there in it probably a solid moment
Speaker 1: for Luperfido if he's going to get playing time, like
Speaker 1: he can finally play. So this is good for fantasy
Speaker 1: from him, and Kakuchi is in a better spot, so
Speaker 1: I think his fantasy, his fantasy upside is upticking a
Speaker 1: little bit while the expected numbers are as well are
Speaker 1: going as well. As we mentioned, the Braves acquired Jorge
Speaker 1: Celaire and Luke Jackson. They didn't give up much. They
Speaker 1: gave up saving Sabalos and Tyler Madzik and I know
Speaker 1: you were pretty pissed about that. Probably a great alternative
Speaker 1: for them. They're obviously not going to get Luise Roberts shows.
Speaker 1: They're still going for it, and they might might go
Speaker 1: and get more pieces in there. So any other last
Speaker 1: thoughts you want to add with Celaire.
Speaker 2: No, hope it there's a money drop they want Marca
Speaker 2: Lucy on to to d H weirdly enough, So that's
Speaker 2: about all there is in that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the wife Fabby said you bag your own
Speaker 1: groceries at Aldi exactly. That's the that's even more the joke,
Speaker 1: that's the joke inside the joke, so good job Guardians
Speaker 1: acquired Lane Thomas from the Nationals. Alex claiming, Jose Tania
Speaker 1: Rafael Ramirez Junior. I've actually seen a ton of Rafael
Speaker 1: Ramirez Junior. I like him going down the line a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's really far down I Guardians fans are
Speaker 1: pissed about this one, Alex claiming is someone they were
Speaker 1: holding a lot of hopes too. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they loved the prospects of Lane Thomas. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love Lane Thomas from a fantasy perspective. Going to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: As I have mentioned, the right you know, right side
Speaker 1: of the field has been the number one ballpark factor
Speaker 1: for left handed hitters, so we've just seen an uptick
Speaker 1: in offense in that ballpark. In general, the team itself
Speaker 1: is an offensive world wind up. So I think this
Speaker 1: is great for Lane Thomas's fantasy perspective for redraft this season,
Speaker 1: and he's kind of been a bye for a decent amount.
Speaker 2: Of the year. Bubba yep, I love Lane Thomas. He's
Speaker 2: hitting second on Tuesday's lineup. Hopefully he's not up to
Speaker 2: two and like there's actually rumors of that on Monday,
Speaker 2: which would be wild to me, but he should play
Speaker 2: every day and I love it. Now he's going to
Speaker 2: a contender and hitting in front of guys like Jay Rammon.
Speaker 2: Company should should pay off in a big way.
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of I'd hate to do because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jinx it or whatever, but it's semi safe
Speaker 1: to say that. Like a majority of the trades that
Speaker 1: we've seen from offense from bats have been pluses. The
Speaker 1: only one, like I think we could argue Esak Parades
Speaker 1: is probably not an offensive plus. Like maybe the pieces
Speaker 1: around are more interesting, but the left left field three
Speaker 1: fifteen in Tampa Bay, three fifty five in Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so for a guy that will only pull in heavy,
Speaker 1: heavy pole hitter gets the ball in the air, like,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more damning. But I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot of the other offensive like Jazz is thriving
Speaker 1: in New York and was a plus. I think Solaire
Speaker 1: this is a plus going into Atlanta. You throw enjoy,
Speaker 1: lou Brafito. I mean these offensive pieces that are moving,
Speaker 1: eight out of ten, let's call it, maybe seventy five
Speaker 1: percent so far have been an offensive uptick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most of the moves so far, it is weird.
Speaker 2: Have really not hurt fantasy value too much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also Fam, Yeah right there, I mean Fam going to
Speaker 1: Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: I Fam, he'll probably platoon still, but yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's the season goes on, he's
Speaker 1: going to play more and more as Tommy Fam. Does
Speaker 1: you know that was kind of the same thing that
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks would use. The they're kind of doing it
Speaker 1: with Jock as well. They'll only primarily have him against
Speaker 1: right handed hitters. But I don't know, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: this is another great destination for Fam to be playing
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. We had a couple other smaller trades.
Speaker 1: I mentioned Frankie Montas was traded to the Brewers and
Speaker 1: it was like Joey Weimer and it was pretty much nothing.
Speaker 1: And the Dodgers reacquired Ahmed Rosario, and this was second
Speaker 1: or third player now that his return to a team.
Speaker 1: You had Rosario going back, No, you had Tommy Fam,
Speaker 1: you had Jorge Soela, and you have a Medrosario. So
Speaker 1: everybody is just going back. They're just up late at
Speaker 1: night just being like, hey you up, I miss you.
Speaker 1: And they're just bringing back the same dudes that they know.
Speaker 2: It's the wolverine. Meine just looking at the picture going
Speaker 2: let's get back together basically.
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, that's exactly right. A lot of trade
Speaker 1: rumors that are out there for today. We'll break it
Speaker 1: down tomorrow. Piece of po'll be back and we'll have
Speaker 1: the finality of all of those. Is there one big
Speaker 1: one you think that's going to happen, because here's what
Speaker 1: we know. The trek Scuoble stuff has calmed down a lot.
Speaker 1: Luis Robert looks very unlikely to be moved. The chatter
Speaker 1: of Vlad being traded has gone to a whisper. There's
Speaker 1: nothing in that Garrett Crochet has turned. Yesterday it was
Speaker 1: very unlikely. Today it seems like there are some movement
Speaker 1: and there are some rumors going around that maybe Baltimore
Speaker 1: is going to pull the trigger. There's a Garrett Crochet
Speaker 1: one that's out there. Maybe I'm not even mentioning. And
Speaker 1: Blake Snell that was another one that that seems very likely.
Speaker 1: Who do you think, What do you think the big
Speaker 1: trade for the rest of today might look like? And
Speaker 1: who is it.
Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to the Jack Flaherty trade, either
Speaker 2: to the Yankees or the Dodgers, Like, that's happening. That's
Speaker 2: gonna bolster. That's a movie, Simlo Braffido for if you're
Speaker 2: the Astros, like, that's the move. So Flerity going to
Speaker 2: the Bronx or to the Dodgers for the World Series push,
Speaker 2: that's the big one because if we saw a Kakuchi
Speaker 2: just gut, Flarity should get a aught in return. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine, I mean even just
Speaker 1: any of these.
Speaker 2: Guys, like what Flarity's gone like, I'd be shocked if
Speaker 2: he's still there after it.
Speaker 1: Well, they pulled him yesterday, scra I could have I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, hindsight like what would have happened? But I
Speaker 1: bet the under on runs he you know, lol on
Speaker 1: how that worked out. But I bet the under and
Speaker 1: runs of the first five thinking Flarity was there. Twenty
Speaker 1: minutes later, he's pulled from his start because they're talking
Speaker 1: about the trade. I think Flarity is a done deal
Speaker 1: to get moved, and it looks like the Yankees are
Speaker 1: the ones that are going to I think are gonna
Speaker 1: pull that trigger. I just don't know if that's the
Speaker 1: big one. I think Garrett Crochet does get moved. I
Speaker 1: think I think they do pull that, and I think
Speaker 1: it's Baltimore, and I think Baltimore ends up moving one
Speaker 1: of the big guys. That's gonna be the thing that
Speaker 1: turns at the very end. It's gonna be one of
Speaker 1: Holiday or Mayo, or it's gonna be some wild five
Speaker 1: or six player trade. I'm gonna say that Garrett Crochet
Speaker 1: and all the huffing and puffin and all that's going on,
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get moved to Baltimore to create this
Speaker 1: wild top three of pitchers. They've gotten depth now and
Speaker 1: they're gonna move off and it's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: old trade.
Speaker 2: What I see happening is you Flaherty going to the Yankees,
Speaker 2: Crochet going to the Dodgers. Okay, because Crochet said he
Speaker 2: won't pitch in the postseason without an extension. I don't
Speaker 2: know if the O's extend him.
Speaker 1: There's a lot to that, yeah, But I mean you
Speaker 1: might be right, and there's a little less. I always
Speaker 1: laugh when this is the me thing. But whenever Dodgers
Speaker 1: and White Sox players get trade, I think about how
Speaker 1: spring training it's the same facility and they just they're
Speaker 1: all the familiarity between the organizations, so like there's a
Speaker 1: line of communication that's bigger than others. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, like I think Baltimore is going to be
Speaker 1: in the spot where they're gonna have like this offseason,
Speaker 1: it's going to be extend time, Like they're going to
Speaker 1: start extending. You're gonna be looking at some of your
Speaker 1: position players. I mean burn I think Burns is a
Speaker 1: free agent right because he just has that one year deal.
Speaker 1: They might try to, you know, lock that down with
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns. But also like just pointing this out and
Speaker 1: then we'll move on. If you have Corbin Burns that
Speaker 1: could become a free agent, you would it would really
Speaker 1: behoove you to go in trade for a starting pitcher
Speaker 1: that couldn't be an ace that you have control over.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like another it's a it's a
Speaker 1: next level chess piece move for a team that is
Speaker 1: a going for it, but b should protect themselves for
Speaker 1: the future if for some reason they can't afford Carbon Burns,
Speaker 1: because Corbin Burns might win the cy Young and it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna want four hundred million dollars or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell everybody wants now lots of money. What doesn't everybody
Speaker 1: want to play baseball? By the way, the money that
Speaker 1: gets thrown around and the work that or the I
Speaker 1: don't know the what is it? The weight of injuries
Speaker 1: on your body, the impact that it doesn't take on
Speaker 1: your body in baseball compared to others. Why does everybody
Speaker 1: not want to play baseball?
Speaker 2: I say the same thing about golf. I wouldn't you
Speaker 2: just play golf?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I guess, well, golf is hard, it's really hard.
Speaker 2: I guess baseball's yeah, Throwing one hundreds hard too, So
Speaker 2: that's time my checker, ask Corbyn Carroll hitting two fifteen
Speaker 2: ain't going to cut it. So it's it's tough.
Speaker 1: Game to douche, all right. Some other news and notes
Speaker 1: going around. Aaron Judge two for five, two homers, three
Speaker 1: RBI on Monday as the Yankees beat the Phillies fourteen
Speaker 1: to four. Jazz two for four, two homers, ridiculous also
Speaker 1: made a really great stop at third base. It didn't
Speaker 1: end up being like a play play, but already showing
Speaker 1: off some of those skills. And really what we should
Speaker 1: all hope for is that he's going to go and
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to get enough eligibility for
Speaker 1: us for next year. I really want outfield, third base,
Speaker 1: and second base. Somehow give me that, or at least
Speaker 1: give me two positions. But the third base stuff, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get third qualifications for Jazz. And I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm really excited about Jazz. I said this was
Speaker 1: an offensive plus him going to the Yankees, and you know,
Speaker 1: outside of the injury nonsense that kind of follows looks great.
Speaker 1: He looks like a complete fit in and he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of RBI opportunities.
Speaker 2: He looks like a full fit in. He's loving it.
Speaker 2: Just listening to his comments about like playing with Aaron
Speaker 2: Judge all of a sudden, like he's having fun. It's
Speaker 2: the Jazz is letting his full of mentality up, which
Speaker 2: is great. I guess is the perfect storm and he's
Speaker 2: gonna flourish in New York. Also, just the the aura
Speaker 2: of New York.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, there's some bets out there
Speaker 1: that you can look at that have Aaron Judge for
Speaker 1: the top dog, but you can bet the field against
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. And it was like he's like plus like
Speaker 1: eight hundred or fourteen hundred, and Bobby WIT's the one
Speaker 1: sitting out there. Is there any world where you would
Speaker 1: consider betting the field against Aaron Judge for MVP.
Speaker 2: I think the odds of plus eight hundred whatever is
Speaker 2: pretty good, so you should just because it's baseball, and
Speaker 2: Judge could get hurt tomorrow, so take your chance. If
Speaker 2: he doesn't get hurt, he's gonna win it. But what
Speaker 2: Bobby What's doing is unconscious that walk off Granny on Monday.
Speaker 2: Dude's hitting over five hundreds. It's the break. He has
Speaker 2: more extra base hits than swings and misses since the
Speaker 2: All Star Break. Like Bobby Whit is nuts and we
Speaker 2: will talk about him later in the show. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just for how good he is and Judge's injury history,
Speaker 2: I think laying plus eight hundred is not the worst
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Speaker 1: go ahead grand slam and cashing Joe. I think Joe
Speaker 1: had him on the home run board and cash him
Speaker 1: on the RBI bet. So Bobby Wit did him right,
Speaker 1: and Jose Ramirez three to four with a pair of
Speaker 1: solo shots did Just to see the video of Brian
Speaker 1: Rochio tapping his hat and Ramirez getting pissed. Everybody seems
Speaker 1: very mad at Brian Rochio. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: well liked, which is funny because him and George Valera
Speaker 1: back when they were in like Rookie Ball, those guys
Speaker 1: were like best friends. I would talk to George a lot,
Speaker 1: and George would talk about like his friendship with Brian Rochio.
Speaker 1: But Rokio seems to be a little too kiddish, and
Speaker 1: Ramirez was having absolutely zero of his nonsense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay ram went full Adrian Beltrie on that one. So, uh,
Speaker 2: Rochio better watch out. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not good.
Speaker 2: We've seen We've seen the right hand from Jay ram
Speaker 2: so just watch.
Speaker 1: Out awesome for funds. I guess this is fun. I
Speaker 1: Joe put this in here. I think for fun because
Speaker 1: I was anti Logan Gilbert in the Aar Logan Gilbert
Speaker 1: was obliterated. Remember my bet yesterday where I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna play the under in total runs first two
Speaker 1: and a half innings, it was looking really great, and
Speaker 1: then Logan Gilbert gives up seven earned runs in the
Speaker 1: third two and two thirds he made and that almost
Speaker 1: single handedly destroyed the vet and then it just you know,
Speaker 1: went away. He got absolutely obliterated everything across the plate.
Speaker 1: And Jamison Taian shelled for six runs over four and
Speaker 1: a third in Monday's loss against the Reds, And you know,
Speaker 1: there were some trade rumors with him a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier on in the rookie Lookie Jackson Cheerio to run
Speaker 1: homer as the Brewers beat the Braves. The twenty year
Speaker 1: old has now gone twelve homers deep in this rookie season,
Speaker 1: and he's got a two sixty two three oh seven
Speaker 1: four twenty four slash line. If Paul Skeins didn't exist,
Speaker 1: would Jackson Churio? This is a what if Marvel's what
Speaker 1: if would Jackson Churio be able to stave off Jackson
Speaker 1: Merrill for NL Rookie.
Speaker 2: Of the Year if Cheerio keeps us up? Yes, like
Speaker 2: this would be Cherio's like since the All Star wak Iu.
Speaker 2: I believe he's sitting over four hundred with four homers, like,
Speaker 2: he looks great, He's getting better and better. Shocker, young
Speaker 2: players need time. This is what happens. So I'm with
Speaker 2: you if Paul Skeins didn't exist, Yes, I think there's
Speaker 2: some young people hoping Paul Skins didn't exist too, not
Speaker 2: just Rookie of the Years. So yeah, it's pretty wild
Speaker 2: with Skans. Even on Monday. Did in Houston.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I haven't looked in what the the NL
Speaker 1: cy Young Award looks like like Paul Skean's last I
Speaker 1: looked was minus six thousand for a Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: So I think that's also where things have locked up.
Speaker 1: But I don't know where the cy Young is. Is
Speaker 1: he leading?
Speaker 2: I think he was like I think he was leading
Speaker 2: like yet around plus three hundred last time I saw
Speaker 2: and Sales right behind him or vice a verse. They
Speaker 2: were really close to each other. So I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: it was Skeen's world at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I think Sales should walk
Speaker 1: away with that. By the way, Craig Mish is reporting
Speaker 1: that it looks like the Marlins are closing in on
Speaker 1: a Trevor Rodgers. Oh yeah, I see. Angelo even put
Speaker 1: it right here that they're they're closing in on something.
Speaker 1: I think he might have even mentioned maybe that the
Speaker 1: Cubs were a team that were even like looking at reacquiring,
Speaker 1: you know, trying.
Speaker 2: To get we are selling Cubs.
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe, yeah, exactly, but so we might have a
Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers deal coming down pretty soon. And finally, in
Speaker 1: the rookie looking we mentioned it, Astros are calling up
Speaker 1: pedro Leone to make his major league debut. He will
Speaker 1: be the new Joey Luperfito who plays two games a
Speaker 1: week and sits on the bench in majority and everybody goes,
Speaker 1: will we ever get to see him? A lot of power?
Speaker 1: There's some speed in there, you know, I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of swing and miss. Don't be surprised that
Speaker 1: I could see him being a guy that pulls off
Speaker 1: something similar to rees Hines where he can just kind
Speaker 1: of roll, you know, like he has like a week
Speaker 1: where he's just striking the ball really hard, but once
Speaker 1: he gets attacked with a lot of secondary stuff, I
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the key on like who
Speaker 1: he's going to be. But there is power, speed, combo
Speaker 1: potentials in him. I just don't believe that he'll play
Speaker 1: enough because they didn't with Joey Luperfito either, And they
Speaker 1: might make more moves, yeh. They might keep trading their
Speaker 1: best prospects to go get rental players. They might not
Speaker 1: be done, so you know, you never know. But Pedrolie,
Speaker 1: are you picking up pedro leone?
Speaker 2: Do you care? I said yesterday when he with the
Speaker 2: rumor got getting called up. I want to see how
Speaker 2: his playing time played out the rest of the week
Speaker 2: and then because I don't do fat till Sunday, so
Speaker 2: I'm going to wait and see because as you mentioned
Speaker 2: with Librafto, yeah, Astro just don't like to play these
Speaker 2: guys every day and that's not worth my time.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to just put this in here too,
Speaker 1: because this is a constant and I just want to reiterate.
Speaker 1: And it's not that I don't like seeing the questions.
Speaker 1: You guys can keep bringing it. But Legos, why did
Speaker 1: the hate of the Rays hate Junior Cameron Ea. That's
Speaker 1: what I've been saying forever to finish out this rookie
Speaker 1: lookie because I get, oh who is It's like Antonio
Speaker 1: or Anthony asked me almost every single day that about
Speaker 1: about Junior Camen Ea. So and here to Porty hearing
Speaker 1: the raiser as expected calling up Austin Shinton, That's what
Speaker 1: it was. So this was like a mess up here
Speaker 1: Austin Shinton from Mark Topin Topkin. But my point, because
Speaker 1: he's been asking me and people ask me a lot,
Speaker 1: is like in a sane world, and when everyone's like
Speaker 1: should I pick him up? You should pick them up.
Speaker 1: But in the sane world he would have been up
Speaker 1: by now. All the moves they've made have cleared space.
Speaker 1: He was going to play some second base in the minors.
Speaker 1: He plays third base. Guess what they traded a second
Speaker 1: basement utility guy in isak prates. But it's the Rays
Speaker 1: and they care about control and they don't pay players,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna screw things up and they're gonna mess
Speaker 1: with us. Don't be surprised if he doesn't come up
Speaker 1: until like September fifteenth, so they control him next year.
Speaker 1: So I'll say you should pick up Junior Camonaro all
Speaker 1: day long. But I don't know. Nobody knows what the
Speaker 1: Rays are gonna do. There is literally no concept of
Speaker 1: what they are doing here. I think it would be
Speaker 1: bad news for the player. I think it hurts player
Speaker 1: relations if you were to hold him and try to
Speaker 1: keep prospect eligibility till next season. But I get why
Speaker 1: they would do it because it's the Rays. So we
Speaker 1: don't know. I hopefully in a couple of days we're
Speaker 1: gonna have some great news to tell you that Junior
Speaker 1: Cameronaro came up. But why have they not done it yet?
Speaker 1: What was the reason that they have not done it yet?
Speaker 1: That's what makes no sense to me, Boba.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, and I've been saying all along, like
Speaker 2: every time he comes back in the AL and he
Speaker 2: gets four home runs, it feels like in two days,
Speaker 2: I say, can someone tell me when they get that
Speaker 2: extra year of eligibility like we saw with Max Meyer.
Speaker 2: That feels like because no one really mentioned the Max
Speaker 2: Myer thing, and all of a sudden, the report came
Speaker 2: out that one day and boom, Max Meyers is back,
Speaker 2: So I feel it feels like that's what we're waiting
Speaker 2: for because it's the Rays. But I don't know what
Speaker 2: that day is.
Speaker 1: We're already past the like you get the extra control
Speaker 1: because so like Anthony is asking these questions.
Speaker 2: Well, then there's no reason. There's no, no.
Speaker 1: There is one reason. There is one reason. And this
Speaker 1: is what I've been saying. If he is still prospect
Speaker 1: eligible on day one of next season, then the Rays
Speaker 1: are eligible if he wins Rookie of the Year for
Speaker 1: first round pick compensation that following season.
Speaker 2: After that, but if he exhaust Carol treatment, yes Corbyn
Speaker 2: Carrol treatment basically, but I don't know if that's.
Speaker 1: What they're doing. I don't see any there's no other benefit.
Speaker 1: If like let's say they're gonna call him up next week,
Speaker 1: then there's no point to what they're doing. The only
Speaker 1: thing would be you hold him until. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the day is. By the way, I have to
Speaker 1: look at his ad bats. You'd have to look at
Speaker 1: his adbats versus when he would lose that eligibility, and
Speaker 1: that will tell you the day you know, or however
Speaker 1: they would hold it back if it's not that I
Speaker 1: have no idea. They're just making excuses or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell they're doing. It's but it's annoying. This is also
Speaker 1: why three months ago I said you could drop Junior
Speaker 1: Cammenero and Redraft and someone on this chat was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is stupid, and it's like, okay, well you're still
Speaker 1: holding him and he hasn't played a single game in
Speaker 1: the majors. Because this is what the race are doing.
Speaker 1: Three up and three down. Nick Pavetta recorded ten strikeouts,
Speaker 1: allowed three runs over six and two thirds on Monday
Speaker 1: as they beat the Mariners. My logic was right off
Speaker 1: Paveta bouncing back. Little did I know Logan Gilbert would
Speaker 1: get obliterated. Vladimir Guerrero had homer, three doubles and an
Speaker 1: intentional walk as he has just been phenomenal in the
Speaker 1: second half, and Luis Robert three for four with an RBI,
Speaker 1: run scored and a stolen base as they lost to
Speaker 1: the Royals. He is still counting up some stats on
Speaker 1: the three down. Jordan Montgomery stinks I had text Bogman.
Speaker 1: I said, one of the worst financial decisions I've seen
Speaker 1: in a long time is the Diamondbacks give the money
Speaker 1: they did to Jordan Montgomery. I'm not sure, like what
Speaker 1: where money has been spent worse, but he is awful.
Speaker 1: Six runs over four innings against the Reds. He doesn't
Speaker 1: strike anybody out, and then all he does is give
Speaker 1: up nine runs every single game. So he sucks Simmon
Speaker 1: Woods richardson charge for six runs over three and three
Speaker 1: thirds and Kade Povich lost to the Blue Jays on
Speaker 1: a double hitter, giving up six runs, three earned in
Speaker 1: four and one third on Monday injury news also on
Speaker 1: the Diamondback front, Christian Walker undergoing an MRI today after
Speaker 1: leaving Monday's game with left oblique tightness. You know, would
Speaker 1: have been cool, Bubba, if the Diamondbacks, if they lost
Speaker 1: Christian Walker, if they just had some like really awesome Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like corner infield, big power bat in
Speaker 1: the minor leagues that they could bring up if they
Speaker 1: lost Walker. They did traded him.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he went, does he? When is
Speaker 2: he getting called up? Is gone? When's he getting called up?
Speaker 1: Probably surely by the way, David's De Santo's is a
Speaker 1: horrific defender, so it wouldn't have made sense, you lukt.
Speaker 1: Christian Walker's a goal glove first basemen, so they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have wanted that anyway. So I'm just being snarky, but yeah,
Speaker 1: to your point, the Marlins same thing, like, all right,
Speaker 1: you got rid of Josh Bell. You know you're getting
Speaker 1: rid of all these guys. When does it happen? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I assume it's sometime in the first week
Speaker 1: in August, but God knows. Liam Hendrix, on his way
Speaker 1: back from Tommy John surgery, is slated for an elbow
Speaker 1: examination that could clear rehab assignment. That's fun. Cubs activated
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger, probably right on the precipice of trading him
Speaker 1: because there's at this point probably no reason to keep
Speaker 1: him around because he's a free agent, I believe after
Speaker 1: this season, and this team is probably not in a
Speaker 1: position where they want to give him a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if there's a destination that fits
Speaker 1: super well. Seemed like it was the Yankees at one point.
Speaker 1: That seems maybe a little bit unlikely at this point,
Speaker 1: but well, I would expect Cody Bellinger's going to be
Speaker 1: on the move today.
Speaker 2: What say you? Yep? I agree, because he got activated
Speaker 2: but did not even play in the game. So that
Speaker 2: was that was a fun little moment there. And you
Speaker 2: know there's a team in LA that could use some
Speaker 2: help with Munsey pretty much for the season. So reunion,
Speaker 2: that would be an interesting reunion there.
Speaker 1: Isn't that special. We'll see if that happens. Edward Rodriguez
Speaker 1: another time back thing, scheduled to throw four innings in
Speaker 1: a simulated game on Wednesday. Maybe he plays someday this year.
Speaker 1: And the Braves dodged a bullet because Raynaldo Lopez actually
Speaker 1: Joe put on the injury list. I didn't did he
Speaker 1: go on the injur list? I thought he avoided Yeah,
Speaker 1: he avoided Joe.
Speaker 2: As of now he's avoiding the injury list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the MRI showed no structural danceage. So that's
Speaker 1: actually like a big one. So Wonky, is this true
Speaker 1: what you're posting? Or are getting trolled? I don't believe
Speaker 1: anybody when you post anything anymore because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm getting trolled on stuff before we move on. Is
Speaker 1: that a big trade or did you just completely halt
Speaker 1: the show for your own selfish nature?
Speaker 2: I got no updates on the old Twitter bot there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't see it. Either, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if Wonky just wanted to halt the whole show or
Speaker 1: if that was that was real? All right, Braves. That
Speaker 1: that leads us, of course, my friends, to the segment
Speaker 1: that everybody wants because we want to make some money.
Speaker 1: Joe's not here, but guess what Bubba made money last week.
Speaker 1: Rico has been making money. They've been making some money,
Speaker 1: so let's do it. It's the best bets of the
Speaker 1: Day for Tuesday with Welsh and the Bubba. Yes, Bubba,
Speaker 1: we got it. Our three best bets of the day.
Speaker 1: You've got some player props. So what are you doing today?
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Bett three sixty five.
Speaker 2: We're looking at Corbyn Burns. He's been getting five to
Speaker 2: six k's every game, but I love the matchup going
Speaker 2: on Tuesdays. Corbin Burns over five and a half k's
Speaker 2: at plus one ten, I'll take the plus money on
Speaker 2: that one. Victor Robles the Mariners have a great matchup
Speaker 2: with the one and only James Paxton on Tuesday. So
Speaker 2: mean Victor Roblets leading off over two and a half
Speaker 2: hits runs an RBIs plus one thirty five. He might
Speaker 2: do that in the first inning and then res Hoskins
Speaker 2: is actually swinging a very hot stick of late over
Speaker 2: one and a half hits runs an RBIs at plus
Speaker 2: one point fifteen as the brew crew faces Bryce Elder,
Speaker 2: who obviously gives up a bunch. So I like the
Speaker 2: plus money in all three of those.
Speaker 1: I like those. Let me relook at what was the
Speaker 1: The Victor Roeblis one I think is pretty sneaky. I'm
Speaker 1: a little little timid about Corbyn Burns and big strikeout numbers, especially.
Speaker 2: It's five to six in every start, so it's dicey.
Speaker 2: But I love the matchup in that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the matchup itself is the thing that
Speaker 1: holds me off from wanting to do it. But I
Speaker 1: really I haven't bet Corbyn Burns in like a couple months,
Speaker 1: and I want to, but every time they have it
Speaker 1: like really really difficult. All right, And by the way,
Speaker 1: wonky trade, I thought you had said Jordan Walker when
Speaker 1: you put in there, but it was everyone was being
Speaker 1: sarcastic about it. It looked like it was, so I
Speaker 1: was like, WHOA is this real? But no, That's why
Speaker 1: I shouldn't look at the chat during trade deadline day?
Speaker 1: All right, My best bets of the day. We went
Speaker 1: two for one yesterday. Boy, we were saved by Bobby
Speaker 1: Witt who pulled that Kansas City side. I will say
Speaker 1: I got locked into it. No chance. I was betting
Speaker 1: that under yesterday in the Detroit game once Jack Flaherty
Speaker 1: got pulled, but I had already put my money in,
Speaker 1: so I was pot committed. Unfortunately, but I did go
Speaker 1: two for one. Today, we are jumping back into some
Speaker 1: first fives. I've got the Chicago Cubs first five money
Speaker 1: line minus one twenty five with Justin Steele. This is
Speaker 1: all about backing Justin Steele minus one twenty five on
Speaker 1: the Chicago side. I'm also kind of back Max Scherzer
Speaker 1: with the Texas Rangers first five money line. So this
Speaker 1: is me back in the starting pitchers. I'm backing Max
Speaker 1: versus Lynn, and I'm backing Justin Steele. Those specifically are
Speaker 1: those bad boys and taking a nerfee today, and it's one.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make you feel uncomfortable because we're going to
Speaker 1: a Bubba centric neurfe. Yes, this is a Bay Area
Speaker 1: version of Oakland and San Francisco. JP sears on the
Speaker 1: mound today and I just completely forgot oh and Robbie Ray.
Speaker 1: So you've got Robbie Ray and JP sears here, both
Speaker 1: in like the bottom ten of I think first run
Speaker 1: scoring overall. JP Seris has actually been someone I've targeted
Speaker 1: a few times, Robbie Ray as well. The matchup works,
Speaker 1: it's minus one thirty. There's some other good funds starting
Speaker 1: pitchers like if you want to look for you know,
Speaker 1: Nola and Cole is fun, but those power offenses what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to avoid. So San Francisco's neutered a little
Speaker 1: bit more with Solaire out. Oakland's offense has actually been
Speaker 1: a decent powerhouse, but the best pitcher in Robbie Ray
Speaker 1: is going up against them. So I actually really like this, Nurfy.
Speaker 1: So I'm going Oakland, San Francisco, no run first inning,
Speaker 1: Texas first five money line, and Chicago first five money line. Bubba,
Speaker 1: would you dare join me in the Bay Area?
Speaker 2: Nurfy, No, No, not, because I like giants are actually
Speaker 2: good versus lefties. Obviously, Solaire is not there, and the
Speaker 2: A's offense is very good. But I get it. I
Speaker 2: get your logic behind this, but I will just sit
Speaker 2: back and.
Speaker 1: Watch that one tackling some no run first inning early
Speaker 1: on for San Francisco on both sides. You guys can
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Speaker 1: slash Welsh if you want to see mine, Joe as well,
Speaker 1: and many many others. Go and check it out today.
Speaker 1: But those are our best bets of the day, brought
Speaker 1: to you by bet three six five Bubba home run
Speaker 1: calls for today. I think last time you were here
Speaker 1: you've got a home run call. You were kind of
Speaker 1: like on all sell Hitt and all all cylinders. I believe,
Speaker 1: I know you had a really good betting day that day,
Speaker 1: but I feel like at least I'm giving you the
Speaker 1: credit that you did. Where are you going for your
Speaker 1: home run call?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna take the cheap way out on this one.
Speaker 2: With Jonathan Cannon pitching for the Chicago White Sox and
Speaker 2: give me Bobby Witt Junior to say nuclear hot for
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Royals. I'll just ride that one to
Speaker 2: the wheels fell off. It feels like right.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I'm I'm gonna jump over and attack David Festa.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a met Joe's actually also going
Speaker 1: with a Francisco Lindor, but I'm gonna go with Pee Alonzo.
Speaker 1: So we always flip away from Joe when we bet Mets,
Speaker 1: So Pete Alonzo David Festa has been a home run fest,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to get a little bit of Pee
Speaker 1: Alonzo action in there. I do want to point out
Speaker 1: everybody has brought this up, and just as a quick aside,
Speaker 1: it is Jeffrey Springs Day. Jeffrey Springs is back. We're
Speaker 1: going to get him in. He's going up against Edward Cabrera.
Speaker 1: It's a really solid matchup, one of the funniest and
Speaker 1: dumbest K props I've seen. Early on it was like
Speaker 1: four and a half minus two ten. The hell is
Speaker 1: betting that? Who's gonna bet that type of juice up
Speaker 1: strikeout number? So really the investment in it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense across the board, but it's a must start.
Speaker 1: It's a must start against the Marlins right now. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of swing and miss in their game.
Speaker 1: The Ray's offense is obviously a bit neutered, and I
Speaker 1: will point out the scary part Yandy Diaz has been
Speaker 1: in a lot of rumors they could pull him right
Speaker 1: before the game, So you know, backing him full on,
Speaker 1: especially from a betting perspective I don't love, but from
Speaker 1: a spot start perspective, yeah, I will start Jeffrey Springs
Speaker 1: today in fantasy. I'm not interested in any of the
Speaker 1: betting market because of just how volatile and whatever the
Speaker 1: hell are rays.
Speaker 2: Do and anything like that. Bubba, Yep, totally agree. It's
Speaker 2: a wild one. And then that's what a lot of
Speaker 2: the bets today. It's be cautious because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of moving pieces by in the next like four or
Speaker 2: five hours here, so very cotious.
Speaker 1: Something I got slapped yesterday. I've let me be an example. Literally,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh lu tooygers and Joe had a smart thing.
Speaker 1: He's like, you should maybe bet on the other side
Speaker 1: of the Guardians if Flarity were to get pulled. Flarity
Speaker 1: gets pulled, Guardians come out the gates, drop four in
Speaker 1: the first two innings. It's exactly what happened. So you know,
Speaker 1: try to be locked in with that, pay attention to
Speaker 1: those trades, and I'll probably move away from Jeffrey Springs
Speaker 1: though I do love him rest a season. We love
Speaker 1: Bubba as well. You can find him on the twitters
Speaker 1: at b d intric e n t r e K.
Speaker 1: You can follow me at is It the Welsh Mister.
Speaker 1: Joe Pizzapia is back tomorrow where we're gonna be breaking
Speaker 1: down whatever happened at the trade deadline. We gave you
Speaker 1: all the trades between Monday and Tuesday, everything to the
Speaker 1: finish on the trade deadline, we'll be breaking so make
Speaker 1: sure you're here locked in with Joe Pizzapia and myself
Speaker 1: until then, friends, have a fantastic, fantastic trade deadline day.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again right here tomorrow. I'm leading
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