1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Now we're going to head to that Hood summit because 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: robin Hood's first ever consumer focused summit here is underway 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: in Miami. The retail brokerage announced a host of new features, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: including futures trading and index options, and joining us from 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Miami as robin Hood Chairman and CEO, Lad Tenev. You know, 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: I understand that you have hundreds of people there and 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: another two million people nearly viewing online on your live stream. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: You are looking to expand your product suite for new customers. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: I want to point back to just a day ago, Vlad. Also, 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: I spoke to Morgan Stanley's CEO, Ted Pick. He competes 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: with you through their e trade business. He said, the 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: retail trader is really what's driving this next leg of 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: the market. I'm wondering if you can give me a 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: sense of just how much. 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen definitely retail engagement higher than at levels 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: you'd exp given the high interest rates. So interest rates 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: have been have been elevated but coming down. But I 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: think what we're seeing is a lot of optimism from 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: the retail community. I mean, we have eight hundred of 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: our most active customers with us in the conference, and 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: as I was going around and talking to a large 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: portion of them, conversation kept coming back to artificial intelligence, 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: electric vehicles, areas that you know, the American economy is 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: very much leading, and I think that's been a source 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: of all this optimism. Of course, there's been all sorts 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: of problems in the world, geopolitical and otherwise, but I 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: don't think you can deny that in growth sectors like 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, financial services, electric vehicles, and renewable energy, America 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: continues to lead, and I think that's the source of 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: the optimism that we've been seeing. 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: It's interesting you're launching these new products around futures and 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: index options. I'm wondering when you come down to the 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: retail trader, how much more interest is there from them 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: for these derivative products versus plane vanilla spot trading equities. 36 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: I think for a certain type of customer that is 37 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: much more advanced and sophisticated, these products fill fill a need. So, 38 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: for example, index options, when we talk to our most 39 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: experienced investors, they like the fact that they can take 40 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: a position on an entire market in a sector, and 41 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: they like the fact that since these products are cash settled, 42 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: they can hould them comfortably up until the market close 43 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: without having to worry about sellouts and other things like that. 44 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: And for futures, if you remember the twenty sixteen election, 45 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: the market really moved quite a bit and futures was 46 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: basically the only product that was trading at that time, 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: went from a six percent down to one percent up. 48 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: And you know, for customers that want to hedge their 49 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: risk and trade metals and currencies and broad indices, futures 50 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: are a great value proposition. 51 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, of course it's interesting to see this launch 52 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: with nineteen days to go until the US presidential election, 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: and that contact us to what happened in twenty sixteen 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: is nice as well. I want to talk and broaden 55 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: out and talk about robins Hood's business a little bit 56 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: more because you're known for running ads, running promos to 57 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: sort of poach customers from other brokerages. Do you have 58 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: any metrics that you can share with us about whether 59 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: or not you've been successful in that endeavor. 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have to be careful about things 61 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: that are more recent since we are in the quiet period. 62 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: But in the last earnings call, we did talk about 63 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: how for three quarters in a row. We've been seeing 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: net inflows from all of the incumbent brokers, and actually, 65 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: as part of the Hood Summit, we announced that we've 66 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: got multiple, multiple of our offers coming simultaneously as part 67 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: of what we call Hoodweek. So that's one percent transfers 68 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: on brokerage accounts, two percent for customers bring a margin 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: balance of above ten thousand, and three percent for Gold 70 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: customers bringing in retirement accounts. And I think one of 71 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the reasons these have resonated is they're uncapped, so you 72 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: can basically bring in any amount of money and we 73 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: would match you these significant amounts on that. So we've 74 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: even had customers that are pretty close to retirement age, 75 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: and you know, they have large retirement accounts, and they're 76 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: bringing their portfolios over to us because the value proposition 77 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: of getting that three percent instantly is so strong. So 78 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: we've seen even older customers than what you might consider 79 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: sort of like a typical Robinhood customer coming in to 80 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: take advantage of the new tools and the new capabilities 81 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: that we offer. 82 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: I want to talk about maybe an atypical Robinhood customer. 83 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: I'm not sure you talk about active traders, and I know, 84 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: you have you know, two million people logged into your event. 85 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: You have a new platform for legendary trading, so very active, 86 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: I'm guessing, and you've got a desktop platform as well. 87 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: But do you work at all with institutional or say rias. 88 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 4: Do you license out your technology to other platforms to use. 89 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: We've been getting a lot of requests for that actually, 90 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: because you know the things that we've rolled out for 91 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: retail consumers over the past year, you can imagine that 92 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: they're very interesting for institutions as well. For example, we 93 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: have twenty four hour market, which allows we became the 94 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: first retail broker in the US to offer twenty four 95 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: hour trading of single name stocks. Now that's expanded to 96 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: over one thousand names, including you know, some of the 97 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: most popular ones. We have the lowest margin rates in 98 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the industry. So these are things that are very useful 99 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: to retail. But you can imagine, you know, if you're 100 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: a hedge fund or other institution or a business you 101 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: want access to the markets that's useful to you as well, 102 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: and if you are a registered investment advisor, as you mentioned. 103 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: Thus far the focus has been purely on retail. We 104 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: want to make sure that we're as focused as possible, 105 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: and we do, frankly, you know, as good of a 106 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: job as we can on a limited set of things. 107 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: But I think over time that's a natural expansion opportunity 108 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: for US institutions care just as much about access to 109 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: markets and having the lowest possible rates and the best economics. 110 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: But I'm also curious about something you mentioned earlier, this 111 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: kind of interest in the US election cycle. Certainly we 112 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: have seen a lot of single name trades headed up 113 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: to that election. We have seen DJT whipsaw quite meaningfully alone, 114 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: along with other Trump trades in recent days. How are 115 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: users on your platform trading the election by and large, 116 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: and how are they reflecting it through the options market, 117 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: including the spot market. 118 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the interesting developments, 119 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and this does this does have to do with futures 120 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: as well, is the introduction of prediction markets and the 121 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: presidential election contracts. That is a recent thing, and I 122 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: think what customers are really showing is that they need 123 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: more accurate information and they're turning to some of these 124 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: alternative sources, not just as a mechanism to trade and 125 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: hedge risk, but just as a way to kind of 126 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: get away from the cloudiness and murkiness of these poles. 127 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: I think polls have lost a lot of their power 128 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: and credibility over the past few years, and some of 129 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: these alternative markets, people are putting real money on the line, 130 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: and I think the signal for that is very strong 131 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: and powerful. 132 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: All Right, glad we got to leave it there. Really 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: appreciate you taking time. That is Robinhood, CEO of lad 134 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: ten of joining us from Miami