WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Talk To Me

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<v Speaker 1>Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Talk to Me, Talk To

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<v Speaker 1>Me All Want is a little conversation edition that's a

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<v Speaker 1>kiss song in case you're wondering, as we check in

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<v Speaker 1>with head coach Zach Taylor on the Bengals eight free

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<v Speaker 1>agent acquisitions, followed by an hour long conversation about the

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<v Speaker 1>draft and free agency featuring me, my broadcast partner Dave Lapham,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bengals team reporter Marissa Contapelli. The Bengals Booth Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since Zoom Happy Hours. During the

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<v Speaker 1>and Colorado, and a couple of weeks ago, my old

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<v Speaker 1>college buddy Mike Tarco. Yes that Mike Tarreco organized a

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<v Speaker 1>including Sean McDonough, I, An Eagle, Beth Mowens, and others.

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing some serious name dropping here. In any case,

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't taken part in one yet, I highly

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<v Speaker 1>recommend the Zoom Happy Hour. Now let's turn to football.

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<v Speaker 1>On our last podcast, I mentioned that NFL teams were

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<v Speaker 1>not permitted to discuss free agent acquisitions until they had

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<v Speaker 1>completed physicals and signed their contracts. The league loosened that

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<v Speaker 1>policy this week, allowing the Bengals to announce agreements with

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<v Speaker 1>eight unrestricted free agents, pending the players passing their physicals

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<v Speaker 1>at a later date. I spoke to Zach Taylor about

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<v Speaker 1>the free agent signees, six of whom could be starters

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Zach was DJ reader, your number one targeting

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. He was He was a player that we've

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<v Speaker 1>thought very highly of from the gig go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Nikison as known instance Hiss dayson Clemson, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he would he would really help us up front,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a long process get had done. But

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<v Speaker 1>we were very, very excited to get it done. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a tremendous player, can really be very flexible up front,

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<v Speaker 1>play multiple different positions. So I'm really excited to get

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<v Speaker 1>dj DJ in the building. Linebackers seems to be a

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<v Speaker 1>more pressing need. Why did you zero in on a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle? Well, we know that the guys up front

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<v Speaker 1>take the pressure office backers and feel good that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find the solutions there. You know, there's just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of areas we wanted to address, and right now we

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<v Speaker 1>focused on defensive line and corner. We felt like we

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<v Speaker 1>really helped ourselves there. So we feel like we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>made some moves to really help ourselves on defense and

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<v Speaker 1>got some guys that really bring some leadership qualities as well,

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<v Speaker 1>guys that played winning football, and so we're just excited

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<v Speaker 1>to get pack on the field at some point. Readers

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred forty seven pounds is an immovable man in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. The biggest thing you felt you needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be better against the run. He's not only very good

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<v Speaker 1>against the run, but he also he brings a pastors

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<v Speaker 1>some value there and when you can find that rare

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<v Speaker 1>combination of guys who have the size to stop the

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<v Speaker 1>run in the interior, but also when they're one on

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<v Speaker 1>ones and not just being big stiff guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>the flexibility go get after the pastor and create some

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<v Speaker 1>issues there. Then that's that's something that you've you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to try to go obtain And so very fortunate that

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<v Speaker 1>we got DJ again. We had him at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of award. We were very high on him and play

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<v Speaker 1>it all come together is it's a big one for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's turn to Trey Waynes. Where do you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting in him? Yeah, you're getting a starting corner, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very competitive. You know, he's playing in a good system

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<v Speaker 1>there in Minnesota the last couple of years in Tangibles.

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<v Speaker 1>He brings a lot of really good things to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a physical tackler. He's not afraid to put his

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<v Speaker 1>nose in there, which which not every corner is willing

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<v Speaker 1>to do necessarily. So we're excited to get him in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. He's fired up to be here, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So we felt like that was a great addition for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like that aspect of being good against

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<v Speaker 1>the run was needed at the cornerback position? It helps,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it certainly helps you know. We've got improve

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<v Speaker 1>tackling overall on defense, and so every player we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>to add, you know, that's that's an importance for us

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to stress. But Trey's got good speed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's made a lot of plays on the balls over

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<v Speaker 1>the years and played against him a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought he thought very highly of him as

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<v Speaker 1>a player. So we're just excited at him to the squad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of us have read that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good, solid player, but maybe has not lived

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<v Speaker 1>up to being the number eleven overall pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Does the on track that you gave him recollect untapped potential.

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<v Speaker 1>We feel like he's an ascending player. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>only been the league here, he's pushed a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years there in Minnesota, so certainly feel like his best

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<v Speaker 1>days are ahead of him. And again we're just we're

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<v Speaker 1>excited at a starting corner of the building. Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>Mackenzie Alexander, also from the Vikings, who signed a one

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<v Speaker 1>year deal. Does he project as your top slot corner?

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<v Speaker 1>He does. McKinsey's again another guy that's about the right stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>great intangibles, played a lot of football there in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he actually he played with DJ Reader in college's.

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<v Speaker 1>He's played at Trey Waynes and so he's excited to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of what we're building here and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was great to get him in the fold as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we've we've added at two corner positions

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<v Speaker 1>here an outside corner and Nicol an interior defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>We feel like we're really helping ourselves over there on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's seven year veteran Xaviers to a Philo

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line. Is he immediately the leading candidate

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<v Speaker 1>to start at right guard? Yeah, that's that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Um. You know, he's played more in a backup

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<v Speaker 1>all the last two years in Dallas. Really helped him out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when they did have injuries up front, played

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<v Speaker 1>really well for him. And he's a guy that when

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<v Speaker 1>you want to watch the tape, you can watch him

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<v Speaker 1>play against the best competition there is. You can watch

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<v Speaker 1>him push Chicago at LA and UM, he did some

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<v Speaker 1>really good things for him. You know. The feedback we

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<v Speaker 1>got on him is that he's a quick learner. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a high high mental ikey there when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to football and He's a big, physical guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which in this division that's that's critical. You know, just

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<v Speaker 1>just havn't been around it for a year. These interiors

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<v Speaker 1>he coinsive alignment at these other squads are big guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are really hard to move with the run game.

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<v Speaker 1>So to add a big, physical guy like Xavier is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge benefit for us. That seems to fit the

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<v Speaker 1>description of guys the Jim Turner likes up front. The

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<v Speaker 1>bigger the better. Almost. Well, you know, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good qualities. We've thought he did a great

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<v Speaker 1>job in past protection last year, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>games he played for Dallas and um, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the athleticism get to the second level in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game that we really like as well. So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we're adding a really solid player there, Zach.

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<v Speaker 1>You signed von Bell to a three year deal. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a four year starter for the Saints. Pro Football

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<v Speaker 1>Focus ranked him as the top run stopping safety in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Where are you getting in Von Bell? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting really physical safety. That's that's really good coverage

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<v Speaker 1>as well, you know, and he's won a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>football games of the house state and the Saints. Playing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of big games of both places. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>talked to a lot of people who played with him

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<v Speaker 1>and coached him, and just the type of person that

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<v Speaker 1>we want on a locker room. Really excited to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>What does his addition mean to Sean Williams, Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>allows us to do a lot of fun things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with three really talented safeties, and so again that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we will continue to explore. We'll have a great

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<v Speaker 1>plant in place. Bell forced five fumbles last year, which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty telling. He's got a rule knack for getting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball out and making those kind of game changing

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<v Speaker 1>plays in that regard, and so again we're just we're

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<v Speaker 1>really fortunate I worked out where we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>sign him. You did eventually add a line backer and

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<v Speaker 1>former Baltimore raven Josh Bines. He gets a one year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be thirty one in August. You saw him twice

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<v Speaker 1>in a four game stretch last year. Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>getting in Josh Bines. You're getting a tremendous leader, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's who's been a part of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of winning organizations and winning teams. And so again, just

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<v Speaker 1>just doing the background on him, talking to people who

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<v Speaker 1>were within Detroit in Arizona. You know, just a tremendous person.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make everybody around him better. He's that type

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<v Speaker 1>of leader that we're looking for. Again, Floyd in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of big time football games and

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what it looks like and so again works

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<v Speaker 1>out of add into that linebacker room. Does that impact

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<v Speaker 1>the draft at the linebacker position, Well, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>still open to a lot of different positions. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we did in free agency allows us to take some

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<v Speaker 1>really good football players when they're there at the right spot,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, that's really what you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing at an end of the draft. The final two

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<v Speaker 1>free agents that you signed our cornerback Lashawn Sims he

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<v Speaker 1>was with Tennessee the last four years, and wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Mike tom As, he spent four with the Rams. You

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<v Speaker 1>obviously got to know him face to face. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>two guys that have a lot of special teams experience, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Leshaun's had a good career there in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>and put against him two years ago, three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and US Rams Steve Jackson has coached him. So so

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<v Speaker 1>those guys know Leshawn really well and he's about the

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<v Speaker 1>right stuff and again, gonna have a great character to

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, great special team's value, be a good player

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<v Speaker 1>for us in the secondary. And then Mike Thomas is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that I coached for two years in LA

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<v Speaker 1>and again just another another really solid special teams player.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's got some traits that are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful for us in the receiver room. So report

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<v Speaker 1>to see him coming in compete. I know he's excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and we're just ready to get all those

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the building. That's eight free agents. We're approaching

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty million dollars. I think, are you

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<v Speaker 1>done well? I don't think you ever say you're done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you always keep those options open and

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<v Speaker 1>case something pops up. But again, we put ourselves in

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<v Speaker 1>a good spot heading here to the draft and in

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks areciate the information. Thank you. Now time for

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<v Speaker 1>my conversation with Dave Lapham and Marissa Contapelli, which aired

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<v Speaker 1>live for the first time ever this past Thursday on

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals dot Com, the official Bengals app, Facebook, and YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first topic the first pick in the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Lapham was up first. Do you have any doubt

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<v Speaker 1>at this point that Joe Burrow will be the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>number one overall pick, I really don't, Dan. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Burrow is the target, and I think deservedly so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh, it's the most incredible one season over another

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<v Speaker 1>improvement that I've ever seen, that anybody's ever seen. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the best season in the history of college football

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<v Speaker 1>for any quarterback with sixty touchdowns, six interceptions. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I've said it before that when when it was

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<v Speaker 1>most important, the most important games the SEC Championship game,

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<v Speaker 1>the first round of the playoffs, the National Championship game,

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<v Speaker 1>those three games, sixteen touchdown passes, rushed for two more,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't turn it over, no fulmost, no interceptions. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had seven victories when they played those teams,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in the top ten seven times. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have the SEC, you have that kind of a schedule

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<v Speaker 1>for him to play the way he did. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, merits Obviously, he won the National Championship, won

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<v Speaker 1>the Heisman Trophy, and he's got great physical attributes. His

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<v Speaker 1>arm is plenty of good enough for the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like upper echelon, like Wouza type arm strength.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the thing that separates him above the

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<v Speaker 1>neck between the years, he is a competitive learner. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that's got an insatiable appetite to

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<v Speaker 1>learn about the game, first one in, last one to leave,

0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.960
<v Speaker 1>like Tom Brady, like Peyton Manning. And he is so

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<v Speaker 1>confident going into these big games because his preparation is

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<v Speaker 1>impeccable and it gives him a tremendous amount of confidence

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and execute. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he is is a dynamic problem solver, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when things look easy until he sees to

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<v Speaker 1>feel so well and when he reads it and gets

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<v Speaker 1>it out great, But then there are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>times when things aren't so pretty, and he figures out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to extend to play, to climb the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate the pocket and solve the problem. You know,

0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.680
<v Speaker 1>his eyes are always down the football field. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>looking at pass rush and all that sort of thing. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can go on and on and on

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<v Speaker 1>about Joe Burrow, and I think you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when Tom Brady came out of Michigan, he was splitting

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<v Speaker 1>time at Michigan six round pick, and then he found

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<v Speaker 1>himself in peak. Joe Burrow didn't really have a great

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<v Speaker 1>year till this senior year found himself in peak. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully he stays at that level that Tom Brady got to.

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<v Speaker 1>And and Joe Burrow is not a kid. Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty three years old. He's got some experience and

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<v Speaker 1>not only football but in life. How about you, Marissa,

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<v Speaker 1>any doubt that Burrow's going to be the guy? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I echo exactly what Dave just went through. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really if the Bengal stay at one. The only

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<v Speaker 1>way I don't see it being Joe Burrow is if

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<v Speaker 1>a trade were to happen, and I really don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that being the case. I think it would take a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for the Bengals to move out of that number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick. So I'm the same sentiment as Dave. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's Joe Burrow for all the reasons that he

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<v Speaker 1>just went through and more, there's so much to like

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<v Speaker 1>with this quarterback prospect. He absolutely, in my opinion, will

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy the future for Cincinnati, and I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with the two of you. I think this decision was

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<v Speaker 1>made on November sixteenth when Tuah Tungo Violoa injured his hip,

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<v Speaker 1>and before that he had ankle problems. So maybe before

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<v Speaker 1>his injuries, the Bengals would be doing a really hard

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<v Speaker 1>study of Burrow or Tuah. But I think when you

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<v Speaker 1>factor in the injury, Burrow becomes the obvious number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick. And I did a deep dive of every

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback selected number one overall in the Super Bowl era,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about more than fifty number one overall

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks in the first thirty three. These numbers might

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<v Speaker 1>be a tiny bit off, but I think I've got

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<v Speaker 1>it almost exactly right off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first thirty three there are only nine quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>taken number one overall. But in the last twenty two years,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen of the twenty two number one overall picks have

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<v Speaker 1>been quarterbacks. So when you're in that spot, unfortunately you're

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<v Speaker 1>there for a reason in having the number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've got the opportunity to get your quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you think can be the next Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl winning quarterback, a guy that can lead your franchise

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<v Speaker 1>for ten to fifteen seasons, you pounce on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what the Bengals are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe Burrow Lap. You talked about a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>his strengths. I want each of us to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe Burrow's number one traits. You can only pick one,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one trait that you like about him, So Marissa,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to go first this time. Dan, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to choose just one. But for me, I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love his personality and his approach to the game. He

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<v Speaker 1>has that leadership and that confidence and something we even

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<v Speaker 1>saw to the National championship and a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>swagger to him that I have just been absolutely floored with.

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<v Speaker 1>He's someone that when you talked to his teammates, they've

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<v Speaker 1>rallied around him. He's a guy that people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to get behind. Everyone has fantastic things to say about

0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.320
<v Speaker 1>his personality and the mentality that he brings. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>around this game for so long. He's a coaches's son,

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<v Speaker 1>so he knows how to prepare, he knows how to

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<v Speaker 1>have that approach, and it's really spot on him when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the way he would prepare over this

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<v Speaker 1>past season and just how he's improved over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. He has the drive, he has that passion,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really think it's going to be extremely successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Translated into the NFL. All right, lap your term, your

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<v Speaker 1>turn rather number one. Joe Burrow trait that you like.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the path that he had to take to

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<v Speaker 1>get here. When he was in high school, he was

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<v Speaker 1>first team All state football, basketball, big man on campus,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of success, goes to Ohio State, the local legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Things don't go great for him at Ohio State. He

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<v Speaker 1>ends up fracturing his hand. And I've talked to Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Fickle down at the Senior Bowl, and Luke Fickle told

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<v Speaker 1>me a story about when Joe Burrow wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the guy rb Meyer When they were scrimmaging against

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<v Speaker 1>the number one defense. He had number twos and number

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<v Speaker 1>three's in the huddle and they're scrimmage again us Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State's number one defense and Urban Meyer stands live on

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback and Luke Fickle that defense was good and

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<v Speaker 1>they are lightening him up, they're beating him to death.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe Burrow's dad wasn't there. He was coaching defense

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio you but his mom was there. And Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Rickle said she's in tears, and so Luke Fickle goes

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<v Speaker 1>up to her after the scrimine says, you know it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Urban just wants to go through this. The

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<v Speaker 1>next weekend, the same thing, and Urban Meyer a live

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<v Speaker 1>lights him up again. And Luke Fickle said, Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>sold me then because never complained, never got after any

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<v Speaker 1>of his teammates, never complained to the coaches, what are

0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you doing? So to me, he's been at the high,

0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he's been at the low, and then he goes and

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<v Speaker 1>transfers he gets to the high again. So he's seen

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<v Speaker 1>every level of success. And when he got knocked off

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<v Speaker 1>the horse a little bit, he didn't curl over and

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<v Speaker 1>play dead. He got right back on the horse and

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<v Speaker 1>rode to start him again. So I like the path

0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.399
<v Speaker 1>that he's taken. I like everything about Joe Burrow that

0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.240
<v Speaker 1>he had to go through to taste the sweet network

0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 1>success many times, not just once, many times in the

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.600
<v Speaker 1>lessons he'd learned along the way. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>why all of his teammates gravitate toward him. Guys at

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.400
<v Speaker 1>every level he can identify with him because he's been

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<v Speaker 1>at all different levels of success. Every single teammate of

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrows you talk to love the guy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a big reason. All right, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you my number one Joe Burrow trait accuracy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the most important trait that a quarterback can have.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's in eight. I don't think you become

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<v Speaker 1>accurate when you get to the NFL level. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's largely a god given thing, or at least something

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<v Speaker 1>that's been developed all along up until you get to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where you'd be an NFL player, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you either have it or you don't. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of seventy six. The dude completed seventy six point

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<v Speaker 1>three percent of his passes in the SEC last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at how accurate he was against the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>defenses eighty percent against Alabama in that game. Stayed consistently

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<v Speaker 1>above seventy percent against the best defense. He best defenses

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<v Speaker 1>that he competed against. I think completion percentage translates to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I think if you look at guys that

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<v Speaker 1>played at the highest level in college, their numbers are

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.960
<v Speaker 1>comparable when they go from college to the NFL. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the number one trait that a great

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback has to have, and he has it in spades

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and lap. You know from rooming with Kenny Anderson, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the best trait that he had, right, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, put the football in small spots, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very very tight spots. And with that, great quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>throw anticipation. Normally of straighty quarterbacks, they throw with accuracy

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and anticipation and that gives them even more confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>throwing it accurately. And the great ones see it before

0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.919
<v Speaker 1>it happens. They can anticipate where a guy is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be open, how he's going to be open, and

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<v Speaker 1>where to put the football. And with that anticipation and

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 1>when they can put it in small holes like like

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.479
<v Speaker 1>these guys can, it's a it's a sight to behold,

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question. I remember I was I was working

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<v Speaker 1>a football camp with Kenny Anderson and he would like

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty five thirty yards away from him and

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.359
<v Speaker 1>he would say, right shoulder, boom fall would hit my

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.359
<v Speaker 1>right shoulder, belly button, boom fall would hit the belly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was unbelievable. It wasn't just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to hit you in Europe, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>picking body parts out and throwing the chin put it

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<v Speaker 1>right in. Amazing how pinpoint it was. And you're right

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>those kind of things. When you can do that at

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:44.199
<v Speaker 1>the collegiate level, that trait normally does transfer. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we all agree that Joe Burrow is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the number one overall pick. Ninety nine point nine

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>percent likely that the Bengals select Joe. So let's move

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<v Speaker 1>to the second round because there's a lot more doubt

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 1>where that is concerned. We don't know which guys will

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<v Speaker 1>get selected before the Bengals have their opportunity to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know for sure that they will stay in

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<v Speaker 1>that spot. They could move down. We'll talk about that

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.400
<v Speaker 1>in just a bet. But I want each of you

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<v Speaker 1>to give me three candidates on your draft board that

0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you would think that the Bengals would be interested in

0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>selecting a lap will let you go first? Top three

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<v Speaker 1>candidates at number thirty three overall? Well, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking that linebacker is going to be you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that pick. I really believe that. You know, in

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.320
<v Speaker 1>my mind, it's it's linebacker, It's offensive line, and then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe defensive line in terms of biggest needs. If Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Murray is there from Oklahoma, a big inside linebacker, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure he will be sixty three, two hundred and

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 1>forty pounds. He's a running hit guy, he closes on

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>plays exceptionally well, he's a he's an explosive tackler. You know,

0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that he would be there, but if

0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.679
<v Speaker 1>he is, he's somebody that you know that I'd love

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to see. I guess my dream pick would be if

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<v Speaker 1>chased On from LSU, if he slides somehow, you know,

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>if you could get uh, you need the bud Dupree,

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the match yout On type guy the other people in

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the division have. If that guy would have somehow slide uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that would be Christmas all all day,

0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>every day long. Another linebacker that I would if staying

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>at the linebacker position. Another guy that would be great.

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 1>If if Patrick Queen, another LSU player, if he were there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Patrick Queen would give them, you know, a lot.

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He's got burst, he's got instincts, he's got he's great

0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>in coverage, change of direction, he can blitz. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>those are those are three possibilities I think Zach Bond

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 1>is a is a really good player, but the more

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<v Speaker 1>people that I talked to, Zach Bond is considered more

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of a late too early three. So, boy, if Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Bond were there, if Zach Bond were there at sixty five,

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that dog would hunt all day every day. And addressing

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that linebacker position, which I think, you know the Bengals

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>really need to a draft, Marissa your top three, so

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>lab I am right there with you. I think linebacker

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the pick at thirty three. I

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<v Speaker 1>had all those guys you just listed on my list

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 1>as well, but I might disagree a little bit with

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Zach Bond. I think if he is there at thirty three,

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>especially if guys like Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen are

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>already off the board, I think the Bengals have to

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.919
<v Speaker 1>move and take a guy because you need someone that

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>can come in right away and be starting alongside Jermaine Pratt.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>So I have Zach Bond on my list. I also

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>do have a receiver. I have Denzel Mims out of Baylor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is a guy that could really come

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<v Speaker 1>in year one, learn a lot from the other guys

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>around him, and the Tyler Boyd aj green and then

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>really be explosive and excel in a year or two.

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<v Speaker 1>So couldn't be a little bit of a project. You

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>did see him improve quite a bit over his time

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>at Baylor. Did have two seasons where he went over

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the one thousand receiving yard mark. And he's really a

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 1>guy that it's unique when he has that size at

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>six foot three, but also has that speed. He ran

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>a four three eight forty at the combine. I know

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>this is a really deep receiver class, and as we're

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>expected to have a decent amount of receivers go off

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the board in round one, if he's a guy that's

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>there at thirty three, that could be a very tantalizing pick.

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Though I do stick by why I initially said. I

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>do think it will be linebacker first pick in the

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>second round. Did my thirteen year old son Sam share

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>my notes with you two guys, because you're just stealing

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>my material I have in order Patrick Queen. I choose

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>him from the linebacker group because of his speed and

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 1>sideline to sideline ability. I do think Murray is a

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.479
<v Speaker 1>great run stopper, but I think Queen might be a

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>better guy in pass coverage, and that's become such a

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>big priority now in the NFL. I favor Queen over Murray.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that either one will be there. Zach

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Jon would be the third linebacker on my list of

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>all the wide receivers. I did put down Denzel Mims

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a because I think there's a chance he'll be there,

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>and B I want a big outside guy. Some people

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 1>have suggested Justin Jefferson so that you compare Joe Burrow

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>with one of his favorite targets from LSU, and there's

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>some sense to that, but he's a slot guy. Tyler

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Boyd has signed long term. We don't know how much

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>longer Aj Green will be with the team, at least

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>right now. We'll talk about that in just a bit.

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Same is true of John Ross. So Denzel Mims intrigues

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>me from the big, outside, speedy target perspective. I've got

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>two other names written down that you haven't mentioned, and

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>these are cornerbacks, and I'm sure some people are thinking, well, cornerback.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly they're deep at cornerback. They've signed Trey Wayne's, they've

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>signed McKenzie Alexander, they still have Will Jackson, they still

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>have Darius Phillips. Well, Will Jackson's going into the last

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>year of his deal. McKenzie. Alexander only signed a one

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>year deal. You need depth at cornerback, and if you

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>look at the Bengals history, they've drafted a lot of

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>first round corners because of how they feel about the

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>importance of the position. So I've written down two names

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>of guys that might be there at the top of

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>the second round. Jalen Johnson from Utah and AJ Terrell

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>or Terrell I'm not sure how he pronounces his last

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 1>name from Clemson. I'm intrigued by the cornerback group at

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the top of the second round. If the Bengals hold

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>on to that pick, and let's talk about that now,

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I think at some point the Bengals are going to

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>trade down for more picks. Morisso when do you think

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>that will be? If you agree that the Bengals do

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it at some point, Dan, I'm with you. I do

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 1>think it will happen at some point in this draft.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>It's so tough to try to predict something like this.

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have speculated maybe they will trade

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>back out of that spot at thirty three. I don't

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be the case. I think at that point,

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you still want to take the best player available, especially

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side. I could see it more realistically

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>happening maybe in the third or fourth rounds, potentially fifth,

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you. I do think it'll happen at

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>some point. Lap how soon to the Bengals trade down?

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>What if? What if Jordan Love slides to the second round.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>What if Jordan Love on the first day does not

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>get drafted and the Bengals are sitting there at thirty

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>three and everybody that needs a quarterback is calling the

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals because Jordan Love is on the board. What

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>if Jerry Judy slides, Bengals probably take them. I agree,

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I think all these picks we're talking about at thirty

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>three could happen. But if we all know they go

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>by their board. You know, most teams in the league

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time putting together their top twenty five,

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>top fifty, top one hundred, and if they have somebody

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>that they had in the middle of the first round,

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>no matter what position you're talking about other than quarterback,

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>if you take them one with the first pick of

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the draft, you're gonna take that guy. So a wide

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 1>receiver couldn't happen if one of the offensive tackles. There

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>are four, in my mind, maybe five offensive tackles that

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>are I mean, can't miss kind of guys. If one

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of those guys slides, you have to think about the

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle. I mean, I think that it's it's gonna

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>be who knows how this draft is gonna play out.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of good running backs. If a

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>run on running backs happens in the first round, that's

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be great for the Bengals. Somebody is gonna slide

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>to thirty three, where they're gonna be a bunch of

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.239
<v Speaker 1>teams around the league saying, wow, when I reset my

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>board after Day one, Holy mackle, that guy's still there.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I got to try to move up to the first

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.239
<v Speaker 1>pick in the second round to get them. So I

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>think it could happen. I think there's a possibility. And

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you don't have to trade back that far.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>All these guys were talking about, if you're at thirty

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>three and you feel good that there are four viable

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>options for you there at thirty three, don't hesitate to

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>move back to thirty seven. You're still gonna get one

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>of them, and you're gonna get an extra pick, So

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, unless there's a big disparity between some of

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>these people were talking about where it's like, oh, I

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta take him. He's light years ahead of these other guys.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>But if you got a bunch, if you got a

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>clump of six guys, you have a clump of eight guys,

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd feel good about move back. Moved back in a heartbeat.

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>The other thing about, you know, being number one in

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>every rounds, that's the scenario second and third round. In

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>day two they're the first pick. Then in Day three,

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>first pick in the fourth round. Look at how the

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Bengals have made moves in the fourth round themselves. First

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>pick in the fourth round has a lot of value.

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>They could they could be ring ring again. And the

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>other thing, first pick in the seventh round. I think

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it's an advantage because you're done with the draft unless

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you've made trades. Now you can start calling college free agents.

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>You got to jump on everybody else and it's grabbed

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the phones and it's a recruiting war, and you try

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to get a kid to commit to you, you know,

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>even before other people are done drafting. So I think

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>having the first pick in the seventh round. Depending on

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>hau how all this plays out, could be a nice

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>advantage as well in terms of college free agency. And

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, look at look at look at

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what they've they've done in college free agency, Vinnie Ray.

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, they just they signed a linebacker in this

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>college free agent originally, and he's nine years in the NFL.

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Now he's playing with the Cincinnati Bengals after playing with

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens and others. So, I mean, you can

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>do damage in college free agency too. It's only seven

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>rounds long. I mean if the draft back when Jim

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Cromer I was drafted tenth round pick, Bob trump E

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>twelfth round pick, those guys wouldn't be drafted today, two

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest players in franchise history. That college free

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>agency stuff is important. That the Bengals have done a

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>good job at it here lately. Vanez perfect college free agent. Absolutely,

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so. I have said multiple times on this podcast

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that I have been predicting that the Bengals would trade

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>down with the top pick of the second round in

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>hopes of getting another high draft pick. I'm going to

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>amend that slightly. I think if one of the top

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>linebackers on their board, and I don't know how they've

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>prioritized these guys. If it's Queen Murray, Bond, Murray, Queen,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>what Bond, whatever. But if one of the top linebackers,

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>say number fifteen overall on their board, slides to the

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>top of the second round, I think they go ahead

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and take him. After that, I think it's a real

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>possibility that they'll trade down in the second round. I

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>feel it's really likely that they'll do it in either

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the second or the third round. So I took a

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>look at the old Jimmy Johnson draft chart to try

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to see what trading down at the top of the

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>second round would get you. And this really applies to

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the top of the second round, top of the third round,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.239
<v Speaker 1>top of the fourth round. It almost always equates in

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>terms of points to another pick in that round and

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>then a pick in the following round. So if you

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>give up the first pick in the second round, at

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>least according to the point chart, you're gonna get a

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>second round pick and a third round pick. Now, I

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's enough unless the second round pick

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is not a huge drop off and the third round

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>pick is not at the end of the third round

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>in the third round, I think you're a little bit

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.239
<v Speaker 1>more flexible. Maybe you would take a middle of the

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>third round, middle of the fourth round kind of guy.

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I also took a look at all of the teams

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that have multiple second round picks. Indianapolis does, Houston? Does?

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>The Bears? Do? The Ravens do the Dolphins do? So

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a scenario where you could get two second

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>round picks for the number one overall pick in the

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>second round. That's I mean, the other team would be

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>giving up a lot in order for that to happen.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>But if you got that offer, then I think it

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>increases the likelihood that you would give up the first

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>pick in the second round. Lap if it were Jordan Love,

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>though I were a quarterback that slived, you know, a

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Christmas deal for the Bengals. Jordan Loves slides to thirty three.

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>You may be able to get not only picks this year,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but next year's draft. You may get next year's second

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>round pick and third round pick along with this year's

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>second round pick. If it's further back down, like you said,

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying before, you know, if you have

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to go down, your point is valid. In my opinion,

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Dan the same. I wouldn't make the trade back. If

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>if there's somebody that you had rated in the middle

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>of the first round, no matter what position, basically other

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>than quarterback, you'd probably take it with that thirty third pick.

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:38.719
<v Speaker 1>But if you were to field calls, I wouldn't go

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>back any further than if I feel good about a

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>handful of guys. Don't go back any further than five picks.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't go back past thirty eight, you know, if you

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>don't get additional picks. So I would, I don't know,

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it's interesting. I would. I would field every call, man,

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I would do my due diligence and every one of them.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be the interesting thing with this zoom that's

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>going on. How will that retard some of this? A

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>phone calls? A phone call, I don't think. I don't

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>think it should affect trades all that much anyway, because

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>trades are done by phone. You know, teams are calling

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.919
<v Speaker 1>each other on their on their phones. I mean they'll

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>they'll have setup and that that's an interesting dynamic too,

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>because I know right now it people all around the

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>league are going to various houses of head coaches owners,

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>general managers, who has the best WiFi, who has the

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>best set up, what's going to be ground zero? That's

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>being determined by everybody now. And it's interesting. Everybody's everybody's

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>worried about people hacking, you know, their systems and everything,

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's a that's a legitimate concern. The other concern

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is somebody says, oh, man, I'm working on a trade,

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but I need more time. They call I have a glitch,

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>something's wrong in my system, you know, just to try

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to buy more time and be able to consummate the trade.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of that's going to be tough

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to police. There's gonna be some interesting dynamics through this

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>whole thing as as it unfolds. On a pick I

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 1>picked basis, I think you made a good point earlier

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>than the Lap in that since the Bengals have the

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>first overall pick in the second round and the first

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>overall pick in the third round, you do have the

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>night to discuss that with other teams. So that's a

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>case where you are not trying to get this done

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>in a short crunch. They'll have the opportunity after the

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>first round is settled for all the teams to look

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>at their boards and then negotiate with anybody that might

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<v Speaker 1>be interested in making a trade. So I do think

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<v Speaker 1>having the first pick after a night to think about

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>it is advantageous when it comes to try to pull

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<v Speaker 1>off a deal, right, I agree. I think other teams though,

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're you know, you're all of a sudden somebody

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>makes a trade and moves in a different position and

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>it totally changed the dynamic of the round. Then you're

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<v Speaker 1>calling see if you can. I just wonder how as

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>it unfolds. And I agree with you when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a full twelve hours or whatever to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>set yourself. But during the course of the round, I

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>wonder how it's going to affect. I wonder if there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be as many trade calls as there have been in

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the past. It's going to be interesting, all right. You

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>are listening to and watching our first ever live edition

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Bengals Booth podcast that is presented by Prime Sport,

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0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and we will take questions from you before we are finished. Honestly,

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.279
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<v Speaker 1>via Twitter. My Twitter handle is Dan underscore hoard ho

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<v Speaker 1>can continue to do so, and we will get to

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>some questions from our viewers and listeners in just a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's transition to free agency. The Bengals have obviously made

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge splash in free agency, signing eight players, spending

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>more than one hundred thirty million dollars. That's a new

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>all time high enfranchise history. MORESSA. I'll let you go

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<v Speaker 1>first with this one. Who was the best free agent

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>acquisition and who do you consider to be the most underrated?

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>For me? No brainer, the best acquisition was DJ Reader.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>He was one of the tops in the league for

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>interior defensive lineman in stopping the run. I believe he

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was third according to the Pro Football Focused rankings. You

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>lose a guy like Andrew Billings, you absolutely had to

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>fill that need. They gave him the money they paid

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>him for a reason, and not only do I love

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>what he brings on the field, but he's one of

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>those guys that Zach Taylor wants to bring in because

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>he's a high character guy who was the Houston Texans

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Walter Peyton Man of the Year nominee last season. There's

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot in the community, so he's going to be

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a great asset both on and off the field and

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room for this team. My most underrated addition,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually going to go with Mike Thomas wide receiver

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.720
<v Speaker 1>from the Rams. He has that relationship with Zach Taylor

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 1>worked with him over the course of a couple of seasons,

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>so he should be somewhat familiar with the offensive mind

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and scheme that Zach likes to run, and I think

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a big asset for this team

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>on special teams, especially with losses like Clayton Federlum and

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Tony mcgrey. Mike Thomas comes in as a gunner. He

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>has the speed, he will provide a little bit of

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>depth at the receiver position, though he didn't see much

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>time with the Rams, only had ten career receptions just

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>two a season ago, so he should really be an

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>impact on special teams. We know how important the special

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>teams unit is here in Cincinnati, especially a guy like

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Darren simm And, so I am going with Mike Thomas

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>as my most underrated player. If it was the Saints

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>version of Michael Thomas, it really would have been an

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>underrated pick Gun, same questions for you, lap Well, I

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>think the best acquisition. I agree with Mercy. It's almost

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>it's almost hard to argue. DJ Reader paid him over

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty million bucks. He's going to be a three down guy,

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>you know. And he's going to be a three down

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>guy playing multiple positions. He can play nose tackle if

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you're lining up in a three to four, he can

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>play a one technique or a three technique if you're

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>playing with four down lineman. He gives you a position

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>versus Gilathy. He can even kick out and play some

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive end. He stays on his feet, he chases every play.

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>He penetrates the pocket on the interior. I think he's

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that is going to make life

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>easier for Geno Atkins, and I think it has to

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>be made easier for Geno Atkins. Geno Atkins kind of

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>died in the vine last year. Physically, Gino is at

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the stage of his career where you know he's maybe

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>a thirty snap a game guy. Now you know he's

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>more of a third down guy. I would I would

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>make Geno Atkins almost a third down player now if

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I can figure out a way to do it. And

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think they're going to address the defensive

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>line a little bit in the draft, in college free

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>agency as well. But reader, I think is gonna make

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>life easier. I think, uh Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap there,

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>their snaps should be decreased. They're at that stage of

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>their career where they're gonna wear down every year. If

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you if you played too many snaps with those guys

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the player that is the most unsung

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:01.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever what was your term for it, dan, underrated, underrated? Okay,

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you know I'm gonna say Alexander in the slot I

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>think is a big acquisition for them, not only in

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>coverage but being on the field for like one hundred

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and twenty one hundred and forty run snaps. Whatever. It

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't never missing a tackle, that's big. That was a big,

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>big problem last year. A lot of miss tackles on

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the perimeter in the secondary. You know, plays that should

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>have been big plays turned into big plays because of

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>miss tackles. The other one I'm going to give an

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>honorable mention to her. A second nod would be Josh

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Bines because you know, to me, what the Bank. We

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about this before. The first thing you have to

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 1>do to improve your defense is right up the middle,

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>like in baseball, catcher shortstop, center field, Catcher's DJ Reader shortstop,

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Josh Bines center field Von Bell. And then they helped

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>right and left field as well, you know, with the cornerbacks,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and I mean they did a great job improving their defense.

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But Josh Bines, the linebacker position needs a leader. Josh

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Bines has been to the Super Bowl as a college

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>free agent, not drafted, ninth year in the league, played

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>on playoff teams, played on a super Bowl team. If

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a rookie linebacker, I'm listening to this dude. This

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>dude has instantaneous credibility to me. I mean, he's got

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a resume, he's got some NFL DNA to him. I

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna, you know, almost automatically become kind of

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>like the leader of the linebacker room. So I look

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>at that and like Marissa talked about, and I feel

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the same way, Zach. It's about culture. I think Josh

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Bines will up the anti culture wise because of he

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>knows what it's supposed to look like. He played on

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl team, a lot of these guys have

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>come to the Bengals from playoff teams. They know what

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to look like. They've experienced that kind of success.

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>They knew what they had to do, the sacrifices they

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>had to make to get there. All that builds your culture.

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.479
<v Speaker 1>So I give him a little nod too. In terms

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of culture building, I agree that the most important and

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the best free agent acquisition was DJ Reader. It's a

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>no brainer. Four years, fifty three million bucks, Pro Football Focus.

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>His top five rated defensive tackles last year were Aaron Donald,

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>He's good. Yeah, he's good. Cam Hayward, I know how

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you feel about him, Lab Yep, Grady, Jarrett Stefan too it,

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>DJ Reader? How about getting a guy from that list

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>stronger than Row really strong. He's twenty six years old,

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>so you're getting him in his prime, Pro Bowl alternate

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>just a tremendous edition. And he was the number one

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 1>player the Bengals targeted in free agency. I know, going

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>into it, a lot of us thought, well, what linebacker

0:42:58.280 --> 0:42:59.879
<v Speaker 1>are they going to try to sign? And they did

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>try to sign some of the better linebackers available, but

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>they targeted DJ Reader as the number one guy that

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:08.919
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to sign and they were able to get

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>their man, which is saying a lot. And then I

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>would also say in the underrated category, I really like

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>McKenzie Alexander for a couple of reasons. Number one, I

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>think slot corners are underappreciated in general. NFL teams had

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers on the field last year sixty four

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>percent of the time, so that slot corner is going

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to be on the field about two thirds of the

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>time depending on your defense. So you've got to have

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>a good one. They had a good one in Darquez Denard,

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:42.240
<v Speaker 1>but he was injury prone throughout his Bengals tenure. Hopefully

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>mackenzie Alexander will be able to stay healthy throughout the

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>course of the season. He did last year and he

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>did not have a mis tackle all of last year. So,

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>as Lap pointed out, you've got to have corners that

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>can tackle. I think they got a couple of them

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>in Trey Wayne's and McKenzie Alexander, and the value that

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>was great. Unfortunately telling me a one year deal. See,

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you may be trying to sign up again at the

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.760
<v Speaker 1>end of the year, but to get him a really

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>good slot corner for four million bucks when Chris Harris

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is getting eight and a half million as a free

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>agent to play the slot, that's a tremendous edition in

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I agree with you, Dan, and back to

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.919
<v Speaker 1>DJ Reader for second. Nick Eason deserves a big tip

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>of the cap and a big salute because he was

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>instrumental in recruitment of DJ Reader, being a Clemson grad.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>DJ Reader. Unfortunately his dad has passed, but Nick knows

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the mother exceptionally well, has a relationship there. I mean,

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.959
<v Speaker 1>they've been he's been friends of that family for quite

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a while. And there's another guy that basically, you know

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the league saying the DJ Reader,

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>why would you go to a two and fourteen football team?

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, do you have better options? Jonathan Joseph former

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Bengal teammate Houston Texans. He was supposedly pretty instrumental in

0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>DJ Reader's decision. You talked very possible to be positively

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>about the Bengals organization, the experience that he had here

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>in the city of Cincinnati, and everything goes along with it.

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 1>So how about Jonathan and Joseph JJO helping out a

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Let's talk about free agency in general. As

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the Bengals shelling out more than one hundred

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and thirty million bucks. That doesn't even count the franchise

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>tag for aj Green of nearly eighteen million dollars lap.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think the Bengals took this unprecedented plunge

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>into free agency. You know a lot of fans are

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>going to say, how the Reds did it? So the

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Bengals had to do it, you know, I mean, if

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>they want to compete in the city of Cincinnati. The

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Reds laid it all on the line. And the coronavirus

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>is upset that apple cart a little bit, unfortunately for

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the Reds, and hopefully it won't upset the Bengals apple

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.240
<v Speaker 1>cart all that much. We'll have to see, But honestly,

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that that you know, had to make the

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>improvements off a two and fourteen season. You had to

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>make improvements. You had to read do and reboot the

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>football team. And I think the other thing is last

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>year tough to do because Zach was hired kind of

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>late in the process. A coaching staff came late to

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the table, so they had to basically evaluate the players

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>that they were going to inherit on the current roster

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 1>before even getting the free agency. They were just a

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 1>little late. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't an easy

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>smooth thing to get done. The timing of it was just,

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, not there. Unfortunately, now with a year under

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>their belt and having the two and fourteen season, the

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 1>coaches know exactly what they have and don't have, and

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, they had plenty of time to

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>evaluate the players that played on that two and fourteen

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.919
<v Speaker 1>season for them. And then how about getting the chance

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to coaching the Senior Bowl. If there's a better year

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to coach and the Senior Bowl, I don't know what

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it is. This year is unbelievable. To have sixty guys

0:46:56.080 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 1>down there from both teams that you were interviewing one team,

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>one group of players you're practicing with every day and

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing everything about him on and off the field. You

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>have any meetings with the North team whenever you want

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>to and find out about all these players. And it

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>got the coaching staff, like Zach was talking about on

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>his press conference earlier this week, it got the coaching

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>staff in the scouting mode early because they're right there,

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>hands on scouting these guys at the Senior Bowl. The

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>scouts have done it all year long, but now the

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff gets a big leg up on it. And

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>here in Cincinnati, the coaches have a big, big influence

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>in the in the draft. I don't think it's as

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>big a deal for other teams to be zooming and

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>all that sort of thing as it is in Cincinnati

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.399
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of coaches I talked to around the league,

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they're not in the draft room. They may get invited

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in the draft room if their position is going to

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>be drafted, and Okay, we know we're going to draft

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:55.320
<v Speaker 1>this receiver, let's get the receiver coach. He has no influence,

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 1>but he's just there when the guy's picked to talk

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to him or whatever. So the BENGALU coaching staff is

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>utilized in a different way. So I think for them

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to get an early start like they did, you know,

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>on the scouting and you know, I think that was

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a huge positive as well. Everything that went along with

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals for an advantage in the Senior Bowl is

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 1>going to be a help. Plus the fact that they

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>had time to evaluate their talent, other free agent talent,

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and make decisions and spend some dough and they did it.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Marissa why do you think they spent so much? Again,

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I agree with what Laf's sentiment is. This team had

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 1>a number of positions that they needed to improve upon,

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what they had to do coming out

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 1>here in free agency, and especially addressing the defense, which

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 1>they absolutely did with six new editions on that side

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of the ball. Zach Taylor has said, and he told

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>us again yesterday, that this team is committed to winning

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and they want to win now. And I think they've

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>done a really nice job of bringing in the pieces

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that they see fit and that won't make that impact immediately.

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe all of us were expecting this type of

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>roster turnover going into year two of Zach Taylor and

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>this coaching staff for laught those reasons that you pointed

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.239
<v Speaker 1>out last year. Because the coaching staff was brought in

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so late into the game, they didn't really get that

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>chance to make as big of an impact in free

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>agency as they would have liked to a year ago.

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.240
<v Speaker 1>And that commitment to winning and bringing in those guys

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to see fit, I really think this

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 1>was the year that they had to go out and

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>spend money and really show the fan base that we

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>are here. We want to win in twenty twenty, There's

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>no question they want to fill Paul Brown Stadium again.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And we know we can remember when the Jungle was

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 1>truly rocking fifty seven consecutive sellouts to Paul Brown Stadium

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:47.839
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and three to two ten, forty three

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>consecutive sellouts at Riverfront Stadium from eighty eight to ninety two.

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>There are tremendous football fans in Cincinnati. They want to

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>be excited about this team, and I think the free

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>agent expended have definitely generated a lot of excitement. I

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think that was the primary motivation, but I do

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>think it helps where that is concerned. I will throw

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in one other thing, strike while the iron is hot.

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>When you have the flexibility of a starting quarterback in

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>his first contract, So assuming that Joe burrows the pick,

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get roughly thirty seven million bucks in the

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:27.479
<v Speaker 1>first four years of his rookie contract. That's about nine

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>point two five million a year, roughly half of what

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton was scheduled to make this season. So you're

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna have payroll flexibility under the cap for four years.

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 1>When Joe Burrows in his rookie contract and it's the

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 1>ideal time to spend money in free agency. So I

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>think the Bengals anticipated that and as I said, struck

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>while the iron was hot. I agreed Dan, and I

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>think also free agency is all about recruiting and it's

0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 1>all about relationships. And like we said earlier, they wanted

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to bring in guys from winning programs. They want to

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>increase you know, that atmosphere in the locker room for

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 1>their culture. So it's culture and it's recruiting connections culture

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and connections Easton connection with DJ reader Zach coach, the receiver,

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>defensive backfield coach, coach one of the DBS. I mean,

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like they know what these guys are. They've coached what,

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>They've had them in their in their meeting room, they've

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.799
<v Speaker 1>had them on the football field, they've seen what they've

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>they're like as human beings. So when you have new coaches,

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 1>you know it took a year to get it. They're

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>all put together, but they have different tentacles to different

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>organizations and know these guys intimately. Well, they know better

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>than just reading their stats, you know, off of some

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of a sheet. They know exactly what these people

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>are all about. So I take tip my cap to them.

0:51:55.120 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not the Cincinnati Bengals two and fourteen record.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you look at that and as teammates, players

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>will say to their teammates, what do you want to

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>go there for? They were two and fourteen Cincinnati? What

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 1>does that city have. It's not New York, it's not Miami,

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not Atlanta, it's not this. It's not that I'm

0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>telling you. I've heard it. I've heard it for many years.

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, recruiting players to come to Cincinnati's as we know,

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the best kept secret probably in the country. It's

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a great city, but it does not have the panash

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.479
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of these other big cities have where

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 1>players think, endorsements, opportunities, all this. So a two and

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>fourteen record and combine that with a small Midwestern city

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati, that's that's tough, tough recruiting. And they did it,

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and they got a lot of a lot of key

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>players to commit and to come to Cincinnati. So I

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>took my cap to them. I think it's a hell

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 1>of an accomplishment. All right, A couple more questions from

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>me before we get to questions from our social media

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>A followers lap will aj Green sign an extension by

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the deadline July fifteenth. I don't know if he'll sign

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>an extension, but he'll be with the team. I mean,

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see him sign the extension. Hopefully the

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 1>extension would be less of a salary cap hit than

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen million dollars you know, tag. But depending on

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 1>how many years and how big the bonus is and

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the pro ration and all that sort of thing, you

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.479
<v Speaker 1>really don't know. But I will say this, I don't

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>think aj Green's signing a long term contract before July

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth or not will have no bearing on if they

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.359
<v Speaker 1>take a receiver in the draft. I think they take

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a receiver no matter what, if they feel like that

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>receiver is the best player to take on their board.

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>The aj Green situation is a separate deal. They're not commingled.

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>They're not in the same pot whatsoever. In my opinion,

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so many great receivers in this draft, sooner or later

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they're going to pounce on at least one. Where do

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you think, Marissa deal or no deal by July fifteenth, Dan,

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not optimistic about this. We're in such a unique

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>situation right now, not only across the world in the

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 1>sports world, with this coronavirus pandemic happening, It's just such

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a different time. We don't know when this is going

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to end, when the team will be back together. I

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 1>just think it would be very difficult for a deal

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>to get done by that point. Do the Bengals want

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it to happen. Absolutely, you want to be able to

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>sign Aj Green to a long term deal. I'm just

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 1>not optimistic that it will get done before July fifteenth.

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Aj Green is asking for. Does

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.799
<v Speaker 1>he want Julio Jones money. He kind of implied in

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 1>one of our interview sessions with him late in the

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>year that he wasn't necessarily expecting that. Julio Jones is

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>now the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL three years,

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:54.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty six million bucks. You can't pay Aj Green twenty

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars a year after he hasn't played the

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>last year and a half. Amari Cooper just got twenty

0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>million a year, Michael Thomas nineteen point two five million,

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:07.800
<v Speaker 1>OBJ gets eighteen million a year, Tyreek Hill gets eighteen

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 1>million a year. AJ's about to get seventeen point eight

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>six five as a franchise tag free agent. So is

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.839
<v Speaker 1>he looking for that kind of money over a three

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>year deal? My guess is he probably wants something at

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.760
<v Speaker 1>least near the bottom of the top five eighteen million

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a year. Are you willing to go that high for

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:32.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody that, unfortunately has had injuries the last year and

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a half? I don't know if he came in a

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:38.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit lower than that. I think Michael Evans gets

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>sixteen million a year. Would you give aj Green that

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>much per year over a three year deal? Maybe, based

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 1>on what you think he's still capable of and what

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he's meant to the franchise, But if he wants, you know,

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>something closer to twenty million dollars a year, Unfortunately, I

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>can't take the plunge just because I haven't seen him

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 1>play for the last fast year and a half. Oh,

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just going to add, not only have you

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>not seen him playing the last year and a half,

0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't know exactly how that ankle looks. Because you

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and have an opportunity to get him in the building

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>for OTAs or mini camps, depending on how long this

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to happen and go on. Well, I saw

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:21.479
<v Speaker 1>him up in Cleveland last year, warming up or doing

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:26.399
<v Speaker 1>his workouts with the trainers before the game. He looked

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:29.399
<v Speaker 1>like he could help watching that workout. I'll tell you what.

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 1>And based on that, and I know he's a hell

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of a lot better now than he was then. And

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Bob Bicknell, we were both watching, I said,

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? This guy? This guy could go

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>out there and help us today against the Cleveland Browns.

0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think he's just shaking his head laughing. He

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 1>is still an elite athlete. I personally think he's gonna

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>light it up this year if he comes back on

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 1>a franchise tag. He's got unbelievable pride. Unbelieved every pro

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.319
<v Speaker 1>athlete took. But AJ Green is one of these guys

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that is quiet. But he may be the most prideful

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>player I think I've ever met, or in that top category.

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he comes back in the light sit up

0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 1>in that franchise tag year if that's the case. And

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I should point out that the Bengals would then be

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>able conceivably to sign him at the end of the year.

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>But as a franchise tag player, you either get the

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>deal done an extension done by July fifteenth, or he

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>has to play out the season before you can try

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to sign him to an extension. So that's why that

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>July fifteenth date is significant. One more question for me

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>then questions from the audience and Lap. We will direct

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>this question just to you because of your expertise where

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the topic is concerned. What is your confidence level for

0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>this offensive line? I think that they will address the

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>offensive line somewhere in the draft now, in my opinion,

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 1>looking at the lineman in this draft, the top of

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the aft out there's four or five really good tackles

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and they'll go pretty much in the first round. If

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>one slides to thirty three, you know, you may have

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 1>there may be a temptation, but then I wouldn't. There's

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>not really any need to do anything until in the

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Bengal situation, maybe the fourth round because they have the

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 1>first pick of the fourth round, because I think there

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 1>are guys like in the third, fourth and fifth round.

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure at the top of the third

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>round because that's that's a late too basically. But I

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 1>do have I do have confidence. I think I think

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Fielo will will help this football team. He has

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a nasty streak about him. I mean he he fits

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing with this pin and pull stuff. He's

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>very good, uh that way, I think he's gonna have

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:52.800
<v Speaker 1>an Impactum, I think Fred Johnson, don't forget about Fred Johnson.

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You know obviously that you know, he came He came

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.640
<v Speaker 1>on real strong during the course of the at the

0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>end of the season had had a couple of starts.

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think he's gonna be He's gonna be

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>one to monitor for sure. And then obviously, you know,

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at it. Jonah Williams wasn't able to play

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a snap. And it not not just the offensive line,

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but that's where talking to Jonah Williams and Xavier that's

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>forty percent of the offensive line. That's two fists of

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it right there. Those two guys are projected Pennsylvania as

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>starters that didn't take a snap for the Cincinnati Bengals

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 1>last season. And you know, if I'm an offensive lineman

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and this is the way I approached it every year anyway,

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>whether you started the year before or not, unless you're

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Muno's and you're a perennial Pro bowler and you're

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a future Hall of Famer. You got to think you

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>have to earn your position every single training camp, and

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I know with Jim Turner as the line coach, that's

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the way it's going to be. You know, nobody. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's going to be ordained necessarily, but potentially

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<v Speaker 1>you've got two new starters in there. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a guy who in a couple of instances

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<v Speaker 1>I saw get Pro Bowl nod Trey Hopkins at the

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<v Speaker 1>center position. Michael Jordan, you know, had had his moments,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he learned a lot. He's a very

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<v Speaker 1>young lineman. I think, you know, he's just gotta know

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<v Speaker 1>where his arrow is going to go straight up. Fred

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson Bobby Hart at the right tackle position. There may

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<v Speaker 1>be a nice battle there, depending on who and what

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<v Speaker 1>they draft. There's not a great number of guys at

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<v Speaker 1>the guard position, particularly early the guard out the position

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think would be drafted until addressed

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<v Speaker 1>until very late in the draft. But I have more

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<v Speaker 1>confidence watching the offensive line and Jim Turner adapt like

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<v Speaker 1>they did when they were struggling so mightily to run

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<v Speaker 1>the football to junk at all and to say we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna change our schematic totally, and we're instead of an

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<v Speaker 1>inside outside zone team, we're gonna be a pin and

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<v Speaker 1>poll team. And to execute it the way they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and to finish six in the NFL and rushing the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season and then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden it was easier to pass protect. So am I

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it's a premier group. No? Am I saying

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<v Speaker 1>that that it could be better than people think it

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<v Speaker 1>might be. Yeah, I am. It's all about Jannah Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it If he's the guy he thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>when he was the eleventh pick in the draft last year,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot falls into place, no question. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look, you look at this football team. The defense

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<v Speaker 1>was addressed, but offensively, not just in the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jonah Williams at left tackle, jariously Joe Burrow, quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green, and wide receiver. None of those guys took

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<v Speaker 1>a snap last year, none of them due to injury

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<v Speaker 1>or being in college. So those are three very important

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<v Speaker 1>positions on this football team. And they're gonna be manned

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<v Speaker 1>by guys that did not take a single snap last

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<v Speaker 1>season for the Cincinnati Bengals. It's gonna be a different

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<v Speaker 1>look at offense right there alone. All right, a few

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<v Speaker 1>questions from the audience via social media. I probably waited

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<v Speaker 1>too long to get to these. I apologize, but I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine we'll be doing this again at some point and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get the hang of the timing forgetting two audience questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a bunch of questions relating to possibly trading

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<v Speaker 1>down from number one overall, So I'll condense it into

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<v Speaker 1>a question from b Burrow PU R R E A

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<v Speaker 1>U X. What would it take for the Bengals to

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<v Speaker 1>move out on the top spot, Marissa, I'll give this

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<v Speaker 1>one to you, Dan. I know I mentioned it briefly

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<v Speaker 1>towards the top of but I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a lot, and I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>more than someone saying, oh, what if Miami offers their

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<v Speaker 1>first three rounders this year? If you are that sold,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joe Burrow being your franchise guy. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a haul. I would say Miami's three first rounders

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<v Speaker 1>this year plus two a day tional picks in future years,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's two second rounders or potentially even more, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a lot. And I just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>it happening, lap, is there a price? I think if

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Dicker returns, if if if Mike Dicka would return, possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he was giving up his whole draft

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<v Speaker 1>for Ricky Williams. But I really, I really don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't think so. And if somebody like I've said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of times Miami or whoever else it is,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're giving up that kind of capital, draft capital,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to ask yourself, what do they know that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. Why are they given all that up to

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<v Speaker 1>get the guy that we can get. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>just make it simple, don't overcomplicate this. We know what

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<v Speaker 1>we got, Let's draft him. Yeah, I'm with you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to Doug Gottlieb's show the other day

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<v Speaker 1>and he was doing this big spiel about how the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have multiple needs and they should trade down and

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<v Speaker 1>get more picks from my ami Miami has multiple needs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why does that apply to the Bengals and

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<v Speaker 1>not apply to the Dolphins. I can't figure that out

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<v Speaker 1>when people keep talking about, oh, the Bengals have to

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<v Speaker 1>trade down and get a bunch of first round picks.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got needs. Sure, they've got needs. The Dolphins have

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<v Speaker 1>needs too. The number one need is to get the

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterback available. There you go, yeah, you've got that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you take advantage of it, all right. Our

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<v Speaker 1>next question comes from coach k all Day. Excellent Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>handle lap, throw this one your way. How likely is

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<v Speaker 1>that that the Bengals will sign Will Jackson to an extension? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a This is a big year for Will Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The one thing the fly in the ointment

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion at this stage, and my observation of

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<v Speaker 1>Will Jackson is lack of ability to find the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Jackson can run, he can cover, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of instances, he does not find the ball as

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<v Speaker 1>easily as you think he might be able to. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's that's something that can be taught, can

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<v Speaker 1>be learned, but it's something that you know, the real

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<v Speaker 1>great ones when they talk about ball skills, not just

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<v Speaker 1>catching the football, finding the football, and for as much

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<v Speaker 1>talent as he has, is not secured the pig very often.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has the big pick six against Brett Farr,

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<v Speaker 1>the highlight of his career, but you know, I finding

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<v Speaker 1>the football, making plays on the football, and then honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like we talked about before, improving that tackling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get people on the ground. You don't necessarily have to

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<v Speaker 1>blow people up, but get him on the ground. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a big year for him. And

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they addressed cornerback in free agency like

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<v Speaker 1>they did and in your model, Dan, if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback that slides, they may take a thirty three potentially

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<v Speaker 1>if they do that. If I'm Will Jackson, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>bring it. You know what, in competition breeds excellence. In

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<v Speaker 1>competition should breed excellence, and nobody should be fearful or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, afraid of competition. That's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, one more question from the audience, And again

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<v Speaker 1>this is a compilation of a wide variety of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>People have asked in general terms, what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to this guy? Others are asking me will he be

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<v Speaker 1>traded overnight during the draft between rounds? Between rounds one

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<v Speaker 1>and two? And the person I'm talking about is Andy Dalton?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going to happen with Andy Dalton? Marissa, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>first question of the hour, right, Dan, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>surprised a number of people that he has not been

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<v Speaker 1>traded to this point, especially with so many different moving

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that we've seen throughout the league so far. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a tough one for me because you would like

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<v Speaker 1>to get value and something out of return instead of

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<v Speaker 1>just releasing and for the amount of money he's due,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the scenario could play out where they

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<v Speaker 1>would keep him and have him be a mentor in

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<v Speaker 1>a backup role to Joe Burrow. I just think he's

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<v Speaker 1>do way too much money for that scenario to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might come to the case where they

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<v Speaker 1>end up releasing him if something doesn't happen on draft weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>where a team comes in and you know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>maybe try to work something out there where they could

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<v Speaker 1>trade him to a team. But but what team would

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<v Speaker 1>that be? A lot of teams are kind of already

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<v Speaker 1>set when you look at the quarterback position. Lap Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Andy Dalton was the victim of a

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<v Speaker 1>glut of quarterbacks and free agency this year, and including

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<v Speaker 1>guys that weren't necessarily free agents, but the Goat signs

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<v Speaker 1>with Tampa Bay and Winston's let go. I mean it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all free agents that were out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think he was a tough situation because in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get into Andy Dalton you have to give

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<v Speaker 1>up draft capital in the form of draft and take

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<v Speaker 1>on that salary. If you trade for him, you take

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<v Speaker 1>on that seventeen and a half million dollars salary. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's two big things to do when there was such

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<v Speaker 1>a glut of quarterbacks and I think Andy got caught

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<v Speaker 1>in that game of musical chairs and there weren't enough

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<v Speaker 1>chairs left when the music stopped, and there's still, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterbacks out there and Andy being amongst them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at it, Andy Dalton would be at

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<v Speaker 1>great insurance policy because with the coronavirus and everything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy faced this in twenty eleven when they had the

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<v Speaker 1>work stoppage and two leaders, Dome top Peco and Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Witworth put together team workouts to get Andy Dalton up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed and ready for training camp, and Jay Gruden

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job installing everything with Andy and they

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<v Speaker 1>went to the playoffs with a nine and seven record.

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<v Speaker 1>Where leaders do that? You know, this year, with it

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<v Speaker 1>being such an unusual year, Will Joe Burrow would that

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<v Speaker 1>Football IQ would be able to absorb the Bengals offense

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<v Speaker 1>and take it away right away. The value that Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton has. He knows this system cold. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>could install it for Joe Burrow. And would Andy do

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<v Speaker 1>that for Joe Burrow? You know, all these questions are

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<v Speaker 1>are there? So do you trade them? Nobody? Everybody's waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bengals to cut them. And after the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, New England's gonna be laying in the weeds

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<v Speaker 1>and New England's gonna try to get them for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as low a pick as they can if they trade

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<v Speaker 1>for him. But then I think it would be we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to pick your salary up. So if the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals say we'll keep you, we're not going to pay

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<v Speaker 1>you seventeen and a half million, will Andy say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then cut me. I'd rather go somewhere else to take

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<v Speaker 1>a paid cut. I don't want to stay with an

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<v Speaker 1>organization that I started for for a number of years

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<v Speaker 1>and took the playoffs five times and take a pay

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<v Speaker 1>cut and be a backup. Let me go somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So, man, there's all kinds of questions

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<v Speaker 1>and how is this going to unfold for the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals and Andy Dalton. It is a massive question. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt when you look at it. Andy Dalton's salary

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<v Speaker 1>could off set the franchise tag of ag Green almost

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<v Speaker 1>dollar a dollar. But we'll see. Look what's still out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam first pick in the draft NFL MVP took his

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<v Speaker 1>team to the Super Bowl. Jamis Swinston, number one pick

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, led the NFL in passing yards last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He did also lead in interceptions and overall giveaways. But

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<v Speaker 1>still you're talking about two incredibly talented quarterbacks. Joe Flacco

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<v Speaker 1>is still out there formers. Super Bowl MVP has Lap

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned its musical chairs. There were more chairs that are

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<v Speaker 1>more quarterbacks than chairs this year, and I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we are learning what the rest of the NFL thinks

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<v Speaker 1>of Andy Dalton. Nobody thinks he's bad. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we all think that. He's proven that he can lead

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<v Speaker 1>a team to the playoffs, did it five times in

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<v Speaker 1>a row of the Bengals. But maybe other teams are

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's good, but he's not great. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people probably feel that way about him, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, like you're saying, they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay him more than seventeen million dollars when they see

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility that he would be cut and then could

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<v Speaker 1>conceivably be signed for a much lower price as a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent. So I don't know if the Bengals had offers.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that the Bears were a realistic possibility. They

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<v Speaker 1>chose Nick Foles instead and were willing to give up

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth round draft pick for him. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>think everything seems to be pointing toward Andy ultimately being

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<v Speaker 1>released and signing as a free agent with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing we talked about this before Dan is

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Gruden is down with the Jaguars. Jake Gruden was

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<v Speaker 1>the first coordinator Andy Dalton had great relationship, worked well together.

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<v Speaker 1>Falls left the Jaguars. I mean, would Jake Gruden say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what if we can get you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round pick or something. Let's see if we can

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<v Speaker 1>get him, because if he gets waived, you know, will

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<v Speaker 1>somebody before us pick him up on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>waiver wire or if Bill Belichick's interested, But he would

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<v Speaker 1>not be subjected to the waiver process. Terminated he'd be terminated, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be terminated. So yeah, I mean it's and you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. Jameis Winston two thousand and eleven number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick in the draft, Andy Dalton two thousand and eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty third pick in the draft. You know, they they

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<v Speaker 1>their careers careers have been very similar in fact, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>taking their teams to successes. Cam Newton obviously at a

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<v Speaker 1>higher level of the Super Bowl and MVP and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But here they are now, at this stage of their career,

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<v Speaker 1>is coming too the league at the exact same time,

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<v Speaker 1>being in the virtue of the same place after doing

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<v Speaker 1>what they did for their respective franchises. It's crazy. My

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<v Speaker 1>watch says, that's been an hour that went fast. This

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<v Speaker 1>was fun, It did all right. We'll do it again

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<v Speaker 1>something time. I'm thank you so much for doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope everybody that watched and listened enjoyed it. We

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