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Speaker 1: Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Talk to Me, Talk To

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Speaker 1: On our last podcast, I mentioned that NFL teams were

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Speaker 1: not permitted to discuss free agent acquisitions until they had

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Speaker 1: policy this week, allowing the Bengals to announce agreements with

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Speaker 1: eight unrestricted free agents, pending the players passing their physicals

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Speaker 1: at a later date. I spoke to Zach Taylor about

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Speaker 1: the free agent signees, six of whom could be starters

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Speaker 1: this year. Zach was DJ reader, your number one targeting

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Speaker 1: free agency. He was He was a player that we've

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Speaker 1: felt like he would he would really help us up front,

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Speaker 1: dj DJ in the building. Linebackers seems to be a

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Speaker 1: more pressing need. Why did you zero in on a

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Speaker 1: guys that played winning football, and so we're just excited

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Speaker 1: two weeks areciate the information. Thank you. Now time for

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Speaker 1: my conversation with Dave Lapham and Marissa Contapelli, which aired

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Speaker 1: Bengals dot Com, the official Bengals app, Facebook, and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Our first topic the first pick in the draft, and

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Speaker 1: Dave Lapham was up first. Do you have any doubt

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Speaker 1: at this point that Joe Burrow will be the Bengals

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick, I really don't, Dan. I think

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Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow is the target, and I think deservedly so.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's the most incredible one season over another

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Speaker 1: people that I talked to, Zach Bond is considered more

428
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Speaker 1: of a late too early three. So, boy, if Zach

429
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Speaker 1: Bond were there, if Zach Bond were there at sixty five,

430
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Speaker 1: that dog would hunt all day every day. And addressing

431
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Speaker 1: that linebacker position, which I think, you know the Bengals

432
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Speaker 1: really need to a draft, Marissa your top three, so

433
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Speaker 1: lab I am right there with you. I think linebacker

434
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: is going to be the pick at thirty three. I

435
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: had all those guys you just listed on my list

436
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Speaker 1: as well, but I might disagree a little bit with

437
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Speaker 1: Zach Bond. I think if he is there at thirty three,

438
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Speaker 1: especially if guys like Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen are

439
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: already off the board, I think the Bengals have to

440
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: move and take a guy because you need someone that

441
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: can come in right away and be starting alongside Jermaine Pratt.

442
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: So I have Zach Bond on my list. I also

443
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: do have a receiver. I have Denzel Mims out of Baylor.

444
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Speaker 1: I think he is a guy that could really come

445
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Speaker 1: in year one, learn a lot from the other guys

446
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: around him, and the Tyler Boyd aj green and then

447
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: really be explosive and excel in a year or two.

448
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: So couldn't be a little bit of a project. You

449
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: did see him improve quite a bit over his time

450
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Speaker 1: at Baylor. Did have two seasons where he went over

451
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: the one thousand receiving yard mark. And he's really a

452
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Speaker 1: guy that it's unique when he has that size at

453
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Speaker 1: six foot three, but also has that speed. He ran

454
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Speaker 1: a four three eight forty at the combine. I know

455
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Speaker 1: this is a really deep receiver class, and as we're

456
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Speaker 1: expected to have a decent amount of receivers go off

457
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Speaker 1: the board in round one, if he's a guy that's

458
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Speaker 1: there at thirty three, that could be a very tantalizing pick.

459
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Speaker 1: Though I do stick by why I initially said. I

460
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: do think it will be linebacker first pick in the

461
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Speaker 1: second round. Did my thirteen year old son Sam share

462
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Speaker 1: my notes with you two guys, because you're just stealing

463
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Speaker 1: my material I have in order Patrick Queen. I choose

464
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Speaker 1: him from the linebacker group because of his speed and

465
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Speaker 1: sideline to sideline ability. I do think Murray is a

466
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Speaker 1: great run stopper, but I think Queen might be a

467
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: better guy in pass coverage, and that's become such a

468
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: big priority now in the NFL. I favor Queen over Murray.

469
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that either one will be there. Zach

470
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Speaker 1: Jon would be the third linebacker on my list of

471
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Speaker 1: all the wide receivers. I did put down Denzel Mims

472
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Speaker 1: a because I think there's a chance he'll be there,

473
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Speaker 1: and B I want a big outside guy. Some people

474
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Speaker 1: have suggested Justin Jefferson so that you compare Joe Burrow

475
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: with one of his favorite targets from LSU, and there's

476
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Speaker 1: some sense to that, but he's a slot guy. Tyler

477
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Boyd has signed long term. We don't know how much

478
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Speaker 1: longer Aj Green will be with the team, at least

479
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: right now. We'll talk about that in just a bit.

480
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Speaker 1: Same is true of John Ross. So Denzel Mims intrigues

481
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Speaker 1: me from the big, outside, speedy target perspective. I've got

482
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Speaker 1: two other names written down that you haven't mentioned, and

483
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: these are cornerbacks, and I'm sure some people are thinking, well, cornerback.

484
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Suddenly they're deep at cornerback. They've signed Trey Wayne's, they've

485
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Speaker 1: signed McKenzie Alexander, they still have Will Jackson, they still

486
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Speaker 1: have Darius Phillips. Well, Will Jackson's going into the last

487
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Speaker 1: year of his deal. McKenzie. Alexander only signed a one

488
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Speaker 1: year deal. You need depth at cornerback, and if you

489
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Speaker 1: look at the Bengals history, they've drafted a lot of

490
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: first round corners because of how they feel about the

491
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: importance of the position. So I've written down two names

492
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: of guys that might be there at the top of

493
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Speaker 1: the second round. Jalen Johnson from Utah and AJ Terrell

494
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: or Terrell I'm not sure how he pronounces his last

495
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: name from Clemson. I'm intrigued by the cornerback group at

496
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Speaker 1: the top of the second round. If the Bengals hold

497
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Speaker 1: on to that pick, and let's talk about that now,

498
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Speaker 1: I think at some point the Bengals are going to

499
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Speaker 1: trade down for more picks. Morisso when do you think

500
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Speaker 1: that will be? If you agree that the Bengals do

501
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Speaker 1: it at some point, Dan, I'm with you. I do

502
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: think it will happen at some point in this draft.

503
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: It's so tough to try to predict something like this.

504
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people have speculated maybe they will trade

505
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: back out of that spot at thirty three. I don't

506
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. I think at that point,

507
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: you still want to take the best player available, especially

508
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: on the defensive side. I could see it more realistically

509
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: happening maybe in the third or fourth rounds, potentially fifth,

510
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I do think it'll happen at

511
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: some point. Lap how soon to the Bengals trade down?

512
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: What if? What if Jordan Love slides to the second round.

513
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: What if Jordan Love on the first day does not

514
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: get drafted and the Bengals are sitting there at thirty

515
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: three and everybody that needs a quarterback is calling the

516
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals because Jordan Love is on the board. What

517
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: if Jerry Judy slides, Bengals probably take them. I agree,

518
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: I think all these picks we're talking about at thirty

519
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: three could happen. But if we all know they go

520
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: by their board. You know, most teams in the league

521
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time putting together their top twenty five,

522
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: top fifty, top one hundred, and if they have somebody

523
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: that they had in the middle of the first round,

524
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: no matter what position you're talking about other than quarterback,

525
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: if you take them one with the first pick of

526
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: the draft, you're gonna take that guy. So a wide

527
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: receiver couldn't happen if one of the offensive tackles. There

528
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: are four, in my mind, maybe five offensive tackles that

529
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: are I mean, can't miss kind of guys. If one

530
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: of those guys slides, you have to think about the

531
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Speaker 1: offensive tackle. I mean, I think that it's it's gonna

532
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: be who knows how this draft is gonna play out.

533
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: There are a lot of good running backs. If a

534
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: run on running backs happens in the first round, that's

535
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna be great for the Bengals. Somebody is gonna slide

536
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: to thirty three, where they're gonna be a bunch of

537
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 1: teams around the league saying, wow, when I reset my

538
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: board after Day one, Holy mackle, that guy's still there.

539
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: I got to try to move up to the first

540
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 1: pick in the second round to get them. So I

541
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: think it could happen. I think there's a possibility. And

542
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have to trade back that far.

543
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: All these guys were talking about, if you're at thirty

544
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: three and you feel good that there are four viable

545
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: options for you there at thirty three, don't hesitate to

546
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: move back to thirty seven. You're still gonna get one

547
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: of them, and you're gonna get an extra pick, So

548
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, unless there's a big disparity between some of

549
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: these people were talking about where it's like, oh, I

550
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: gotta take him. He's light years ahead of these other guys.

551
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: But if you got a bunch, if you got a

552
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: clump of six guys, you have a clump of eight guys,

553
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: you'd feel good about move back. Moved back in a heartbeat.

554
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: The other thing about, you know, being number one in

555
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: every rounds, that's the scenario second and third round. In

556
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: day two they're the first pick. Then in Day three,

557
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: first pick in the fourth round. Look at how the

558
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Bengals have made moves in the fourth round themselves. First

559
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round has a lot of value.

560
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: They could they could be ring ring again. And the

561
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: other thing, first pick in the seventh round. I think

562
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: it's an advantage because you're done with the draft unless

563
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: you've made trades. Now you can start calling college free agents.

564
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: You got to jump on everybody else and it's grabbed

565
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: the phones and it's a recruiting war, and you try

566
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: to get a kid to commit to you, you know,

567
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: even before other people are done drafting. So I think

568
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: having the first pick in the seventh round. Depending on

569
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: hau how all this plays out, could be a nice

570
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: advantage as well in terms of college free agency. And

571
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look at look at look at

572
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: what they've they've done in college free agency, Vinnie Ray.

573
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, they just they signed a linebacker in this

574
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: college free agent originally, and he's nine years in the NFL.

575
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: Now he's playing with the Cincinnati Bengals after playing with

576
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and others. So, I mean, you can

577
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: do damage in college free agency too. It's only seven

578
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: rounds long. I mean if the draft back when Jim

579
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: Cromer I was drafted tenth round pick, Bob trump E

580
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: twelfth round pick, those guys wouldn't be drafted today, two

581
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest players in franchise history. That college free

582
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: agency stuff is important. That the Bengals have done a

583
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: good job at it here lately. Vanez perfect college free agent. Absolutely,

584
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: absolutely so. I have said multiple times on this podcast

585
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Speaker 1: that I have been predicting that the Bengals would trade

586
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Speaker 1: down with the top pick of the second round in

587
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: hopes of getting another high draft pick. I'm going to

588
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: amend that slightly. I think if one of the top

589
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: linebackers on their board, and I don't know how they've

590
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: prioritized these guys. If it's Queen Murray, Bond, Murray, Queen,

591
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: what Bond, whatever. But if one of the top linebackers,

592
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: say number fifteen overall on their board, slides to the

593
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: top of the second round, I think they go ahead

594
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: and take him. After that, I think it's a real

595
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: possibility that they'll trade down in the second round. I

596
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: feel it's really likely that they'll do it in either

597
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: the second or the third round. So I took a

598
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: look at the old Jimmy Johnson draft chart to try

599
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: to see what trading down at the top of the

600
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: second round would get you. And this really applies to

601
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: the top of the second round, top of the third round,

602
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: top of the fourth round. It almost always equates in

603
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: terms of points to another pick in that round and

604
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: then a pick in the following round. So if you

605
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: give up the first pick in the second round, at

606
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: least according to the point chart, you're gonna get a

607
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: second round pick and a third round pick. Now, I

608
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: don't know if that's enough unless the second round pick

609
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: is not a huge drop off and the third round

610
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: pick is not at the end of the third round

611
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: in the third round, I think you're a little bit

612
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: more flexible. Maybe you would take a middle of the

613
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: third round, middle of the fourth round kind of guy.

614
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: I also took a look at all of the teams

615
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: that have multiple second round picks. Indianapolis does, Houston? Does?

616
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: The Bears? Do? The Ravens do the Dolphins do? So

617
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: maybe there's a scenario where you could get two second

618
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: round picks for the number one overall pick in the

619
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Speaker 1: second round. That's I mean, the other team would be

620
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: giving up a lot in order for that to happen.

621
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Speaker 1: But if you got that offer, then I think it

622
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: increases the likelihood that you would give up the first

623
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Speaker 1: pick in the second round. Lap if it were Jordan Love,

624
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: though I were a quarterback that slived, you know, a

625
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Christmas deal for the Bengals. Jordan Loves slides to thirty three.

626
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: You may be able to get not only picks this year,

627
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: but next year's draft. You may get next year's second

628
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: round pick and third round pick along with this year's

629
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: second round pick. If it's further back down, like you said,

630
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: like I was saying before, you know, if you have

631
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Speaker 1: to go down, your point is valid. In my opinion,

632
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: Dan the same. I wouldn't make the trade back. If

633
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: if there's somebody that you had rated in the middle

634
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: of the first round, no matter what position, basically other

635
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: than quarterback, you'd probably take it with that thirty third pick.

636
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 1: But if you were to field calls, I wouldn't go

637
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: back any further than if I feel good about a

638
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: handful of guys. Don't go back any further than five picks.

639
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Don't go back past thirty eight, you know, if you

640
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: don't get additional picks. So I would, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting. I would. I would field every call, man,

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Speaker 1: I would do my due diligence and every one of them.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be the interesting thing with this zoom that's

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Speaker 1: going on. How will that retard some of this? A

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Speaker 1: phone calls? A phone call, I don't think. I don't

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00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: think it should affect trades all that much anyway, because

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Speaker 1: trades are done by phone. You know, teams are calling

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Speaker 1: each other on their on their phones. I mean they'll

649
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Speaker 1: they'll have setup and that that's an interesting dynamic too,

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Speaker 1: because I know right now it people all around the

651
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Speaker 1: league are going to various houses of head coaches owners,

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Speaker 1: general managers, who has the best WiFi, who has the

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Speaker 1: best set up, what's going to be ground zero? That's

654
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: being determined by everybody now. And it's interesting. Everybody's everybody's

655
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Speaker 1: worried about people hacking, you know, their systems and everything,

656
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: and that's a that's a legitimate concern. The other concern

657
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: is somebody says, oh, man, I'm working on a trade,

658
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: but I need more time. They call I have a glitch,

659
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: something's wrong in my system, you know, just to try

660
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: to buy more time and be able to consummate the trade.

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00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's going to be tough

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Speaker 1: to police. There's gonna be some interesting dynamics through this

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Speaker 1: whole thing as as it unfolds. On a pick I

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Speaker 1: picked basis, I think you made a good point earlier

665
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: than the Lap in that since the Bengals have the

666
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: first overall pick in the second round and the first

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00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: overall pick in the third round, you do have the

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Speaker 1: night to discuss that with other teams. So that's a

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Speaker 1: case where you are not trying to get this done

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00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: in a short crunch. They'll have the opportunity after the

671
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: first round is settled for all the teams to look

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Speaker 1: at their boards and then negotiate with anybody that might

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Speaker 1: be interested in making a trade. So I do think

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Speaker 1: having the first pick after a night to think about

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Speaker 1: it is advantageous when it comes to try to pull

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Speaker 1: off a deal, right, I agree. I think other teams though,

677
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Speaker 1: if you're you know, you're all of a sudden somebody

678
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Speaker 1: makes a trade and moves in a different position and

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Speaker 1: it totally changed the dynamic of the round. Then you're

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Speaker 1: calling see if you can. I just wonder how as

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Speaker 1: it unfolds. And I agree with you when you have

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Speaker 1: a full twelve hours or whatever to you know, to

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Speaker 1: set yourself. But during the course of the round, I

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Speaker 1: wonder how it's going to affect. I wonder if there'll

685
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Speaker 1: be as many trade calls as there have been in

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Speaker 1: the past. It's going to be interesting, all right. You

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Speaker 1: are listening to and watching our first ever live edition

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals Booth podcast that is presented by Prime Sport,

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Speaker 1: the official fan, travel and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals,

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00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: and we will take questions from you before we are finished. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: the easiest way to do that is descended to me

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Speaker 1: via Twitter. My Twitter handle is Dan underscore hoard ho

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Speaker 1: ar d. Some people have already sent some in. You

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Speaker 1: can continue to do so, and we will get to

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Speaker 1: some questions from our viewers and listeners in just a bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's transition to free agency. The Bengals have obviously made

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Speaker 1: a huge splash in free agency, signing eight players, spending

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Speaker 1: more than one hundred thirty million dollars. That's a new

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Speaker 1: all time high enfranchise history. MORESSA. I'll let you go

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Speaker 1: first with this one. Who was the best free agent

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00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: acquisition and who do you consider to be the most underrated?

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00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: For me? No brainer, the best acquisition was DJ Reader.

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00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: He was one of the tops in the league for

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman in stopping the run. I believe he

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: was third according to the Pro Football Focused rankings. You

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: lose a guy like Andrew Billings, you absolutely had to

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Speaker 1: fill that need. They gave him the money they paid

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00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: him for a reason, and not only do I love

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Speaker 1: what he brings on the field, but he's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that Zach Taylor wants to bring in because

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00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: he's a high character guy who was the Houston Texans

712
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Walter Peyton Man of the Year nominee last season. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot in the community, so he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a great asset both on and off the field and

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Speaker 1: in the locker room for this team. My most underrated addition,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to go with Mike Thomas wide receiver

717
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: from the Rams. He has that relationship with Zach Taylor

718
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: worked with him over the course of a couple of seasons,

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Speaker 1: so he should be somewhat familiar with the offensive mind

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Speaker 1: and scheme that Zach likes to run, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a big asset for this team

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Speaker 1: on special teams, especially with losses like Clayton Federlum and

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Speaker 1: Tony mcgrey. Mike Thomas comes in as a gunner. He

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Speaker 1: has the speed, he will provide a little bit of

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Speaker 1: depth at the receiver position, though he didn't see much

726
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Speaker 1: time with the Rams, only had ten career receptions just

727
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: two a season ago, so he should really be an

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Speaker 1: impact on special teams. We know how important the special

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Speaker 1: teams unit is here in Cincinnati, especially a guy like

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Speaker 1: Darren simm And, so I am going with Mike Thomas

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Speaker 1: as my most underrated player. If it was the Saints

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Speaker 1: version of Michael Thomas, it really would have been an

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Speaker 1: underrated pick Gun, same questions for you, lap Well, I

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Speaker 1: think the best acquisition. I agree with Mercy. It's almost

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Speaker 1: it's almost hard to argue. DJ Reader paid him over

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Speaker 1: fifty million bucks. He's going to be a three down guy,

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Speaker 1: you know. And he's going to be a three down

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Speaker 1: guy playing multiple positions. He can play nose tackle if

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Speaker 1: you're lining up in a three to four, he can

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00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: play a one technique or a three technique if you're

741
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Speaker 1: playing with four down lineman. He gives you a position

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Speaker 1: versus Gilathy. He can even kick out and play some

743
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Speaker 1: defensive end. He stays on his feet, he chases every play.

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Speaker 1: He penetrates the pocket on the interior. I think he's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that is going to make life

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Speaker 1: easier for Geno Atkins, and I think it has to

747
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Speaker 1: be made easier for Geno Atkins. Geno Atkins kind of

748
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: died in the vine last year. Physically, Gino is at

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Speaker 1: the stage of his career where you know he's maybe

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Speaker 1: a thirty snap a game guy. Now you know he's

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Speaker 1: more of a third down guy. I would I would

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Speaker 1: make Geno Atkins almost a third down player now if

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: I can figure out a way to do it. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think they're going to address the defensive

755
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Speaker 1: line a little bit in the draft, in college free

756
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: agency as well. But reader, I think is gonna make

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00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: life easier. I think, uh Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap there,

758
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: their snaps should be decreased. They're at that stage of

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Speaker 1: their career where they're gonna wear down every year. If

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Speaker 1: you if you played too many snaps with those guys

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Speaker 1: in terms of the player that is the most unsung

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Speaker 1: or whatever what was your term for it, dan, underrated, underrated? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna say Alexander in the slot I

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Speaker 1: think is a big acquisition for them, not only in

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Speaker 1: coverage but being on the field for like one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty one hundred and forty run snaps. Whatever. It

767
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Speaker 1: wasn't never missing a tackle, that's big. That was a big,

768
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Speaker 1: big problem last year. A lot of miss tackles on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter in the secondary. You know, plays that should

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Speaker 1: have been big plays turned into big plays because of

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Speaker 1: miss tackles. The other one I'm going to give an

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Speaker 1: honorable mention to her. A second nod would be Josh

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Speaker 1: Bines because you know, to me, what the Bank. We

774
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Speaker 1: talked about this before. The first thing you have to

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Speaker 1: do to improve your defense is right up the middle,

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Speaker 1: like in baseball, catcher shortstop, center field, Catcher's DJ Reader shortstop,

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Speaker 1: Josh Bines center field Von Bell. And then they helped

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Speaker 1: right and left field as well, you know, with the cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: and I mean they did a great job improving their defense.

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Speaker 1: But Josh Bines, the linebacker position needs a leader. Josh

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Speaker 1: Bines has been to the Super Bowl as a college

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Speaker 1: free agent, not drafted, ninth year in the league, played

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Speaker 1: on playoff teams, played on a super Bowl team. If

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Speaker 1: I'm a rookie linebacker, I'm listening to this dude. This

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Speaker 1: dude has instantaneous credibility to me. I mean, he's got

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Speaker 1: a resume, he's got some NFL DNA to him. I

787
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna, you know, almost automatically become kind of

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Speaker 1: like the leader of the linebacker room. So I look

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Speaker 1: at that and like Marissa talked about, and I feel

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Speaker 1: the same way, Zach. It's about culture. I think Josh

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Speaker 1: Bines will up the anti culture wise because of he

792
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Speaker 1: knows what it's supposed to look like. He played on

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team, a lot of these guys have

794
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: come to the Bengals from playoff teams. They know what

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. They've experienced that kind of success.

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Speaker 1: They knew what they had to do, the sacrifices they

797
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: had to make to get there. All that builds your culture.

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Speaker 1: So I give him a little nod too. In terms

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Speaker 1: of culture building, I agree that the most important and

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Speaker 1: the best free agent acquisition was DJ Reader. It's a

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Speaker 1: no brainer. Four years, fifty three million bucks, Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: His top five rated defensive tackles last year were Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: He's good. Yeah, he's good. Cam Hayward, I know how

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Speaker 1: you feel about him, Lab Yep, Grady, Jarrett Stefan too it,

805
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Speaker 1: DJ Reader? How about getting a guy from that list

806
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: stronger than Row really strong. He's twenty six years old,

807
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: so you're getting him in his prime, Pro Bowl alternate

808
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: just a tremendous edition. And he was the number one

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Speaker 1: player the Bengals targeted in free agency. I know, going

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Speaker 1: into it, a lot of us thought, well, what linebacker

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Speaker 1: are they going to try to sign? And they did

812
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: try to sign some of the better linebackers available, but

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Speaker 1: they targeted DJ Reader as the number one guy that

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Speaker 1: they wanted to sign and they were able to get

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Speaker 1: their man, which is saying a lot. And then I

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Speaker 1: would also say in the underrated category, I really like

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00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: McKenzie Alexander for a couple of reasons. Number one, I

818
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: think slot corners are underappreciated in general. NFL teams had

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Speaker 1: three wide receivers on the field last year sixty four

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Speaker 1: percent of the time, so that slot corner is going

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Speaker 1: to be on the field about two thirds of the

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Speaker 1: time depending on your defense. So you've got to have

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Speaker 1: a good one. They had a good one in Darquez Denard,

824
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Speaker 1: but he was injury prone throughout his Bengals tenure. Hopefully

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00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: mackenzie Alexander will be able to stay healthy throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the season. He did last year and he

827
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: did not have a mis tackle all of last year. So,

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Speaker 1: as Lap pointed out, you've got to have corners that

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Speaker 1: can tackle. I think they got a couple of them

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Speaker 1: in Trey Wayne's and McKenzie Alexander, and the value that

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Speaker 1: was great. Unfortunately telling me a one year deal. See,

832
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Speaker 1: you may be trying to sign up again at the

833
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: end of the year, but to get him a really

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Speaker 1: good slot corner for four million bucks when Chris Harris

835
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: is getting eight and a half million as a free

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00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: agent to play the slot, that's a tremendous edition in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I agree with you, Dan, and back to

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Speaker 1: DJ Reader for second. Nick Eason deserves a big tip

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Speaker 1: of the cap and a big salute because he was

840
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: instrumental in recruitment of DJ Reader, being a Clemson grad.

841
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: DJ Reader. Unfortunately his dad has passed, but Nick knows

842
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: the mother exceptionally well, has a relationship there. I mean,

843
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 1: they've been he's been friends of that family for quite

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00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: a while. And there's another guy that basically, you know

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00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the league saying the DJ Reader,

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00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: why would you go to a two and fourteen football team?

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00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: You know, do you have better options? Jonathan Joseph former

848
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Bengal teammate Houston Texans. He was supposedly pretty instrumental in

849
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: DJ Reader's decision. You talked very possible to be positively

850
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: about the Bengals organization, the experience that he had here

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00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati, and everything goes along with it.

852
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: So how about Jonathan and Joseph JJO helping out a

853
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's talk about free agency in general. As

854
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Bengals shelling out more than one hundred

855
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: and thirty million bucks. That doesn't even count the franchise

856
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: tag for aj Green of nearly eighteen million dollars lap.

857
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Why do you think the Bengals took this unprecedented plunge

858
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: into free agency. You know a lot of fans are

859
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: going to say, how the Reds did it? So the

860
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: Bengals had to do it, you know, I mean, if

861
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: they want to compete in the city of Cincinnati. The

862
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: Reds laid it all on the line. And the coronavirus

863
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: is upset that apple cart a little bit, unfortunately for

864
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: the Reds, and hopefully it won't upset the Bengals apple

865
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: cart all that much. We'll have to see, But honestly,

866
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: I think that that you know, had to make the

867
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: improvements off a two and fourteen season. You had to

868
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: make improvements. You had to read do and reboot the

869
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: football team. And I think the other thing is last

870
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: year tough to do because Zach was hired kind of

871
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: late in the process. A coaching staff came late to

872
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: the table, so they had to basically evaluate the players

873
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: that they were going to inherit on the current roster

874
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: before even getting the free agency. They were just a

875
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: little late. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't an easy

876
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: smooth thing to get done. The timing of it was just,

877
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, not there. Unfortunately, now with a year under

878
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: their belt and having the two and fourteen season, the

879
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: coaches know exactly what they have and don't have, and

880
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: I think you know, they had plenty of time to

881
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: evaluate the players that played on that two and fourteen

882
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: season for them. And then how about getting the chance

883
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: to coaching the Senior Bowl. If there's a better year

884
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: to coach and the Senior Bowl, I don't know what

885
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: it is. This year is unbelievable. To have sixty guys

886
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: down there from both teams that you were interviewing one team,

887
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: one group of players you're practicing with every day and

888
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: seeing everything about him on and off the field. You

889
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: have any meetings with the North team whenever you want

890
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: to and find out about all these players. And it

891
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: got the coaching staff, like Zach was talking about on

892
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: his press conference earlier this week, it got the coaching

893
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: staff in the scouting mode early because they're right there,

894
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: hands on scouting these guys at the Senior Bowl. The

895
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: scouts have done it all year long, but now the

896
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff gets a big leg up on it. And

897
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati, the coaches have a big, big influence

898
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: in the in the draft. I don't think it's as

899
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: big a deal for other teams to be zooming and

900
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: all that sort of thing as it is in Cincinnati

901
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: because a lot of coaches I talked to around the league,

902
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: they're not in the draft room. They may get invited

903
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: in the draft room if their position is going to

904
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: be drafted, and Okay, we know we're going to draft

905
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: this receiver, let's get the receiver coach. He has no influence,

906
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: but he's just there when the guy's picked to talk

907
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: to him or whatever. So the BENGALU coaching staff is

908
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: utilized in a different way. So I think for them

909
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: to get an early start like they did, you know,

910
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: on the scouting and you know, I think that was

911
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: a huge positive as well. Everything that went along with

912
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals for an advantage in the Senior Bowl is

913
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: going to be a help. Plus the fact that they

914
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: had time to evaluate their talent, other free agent talent,

915
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: and make decisions and spend some dough and they did it.

916
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Marissa why do you think they spent so much? Again,

917
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: I agree with what Laf's sentiment is. This team had

918
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: a number of positions that they needed to improve upon,

919
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what they had to do coming out

920
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: here in free agency, and especially addressing the defense, which

921
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: they absolutely did with six new editions on that side

922
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: of the ball. Zach Taylor has said, and he told

923
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: us again yesterday, that this team is committed to winning

924
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: and they want to win now. And I think they've

925
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: done a really nice job of bringing in the pieces

926
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: that they see fit and that won't make that impact immediately.

927
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: I believe all of us were expecting this type of

928
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: roster turnover going into year two of Zach Taylor and

929
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: this coaching staff for laught those reasons that you pointed

930
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: out last year. Because the coaching staff was brought in

931
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: so late into the game, they didn't really get that

932
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: chance to make as big of an impact in free

933
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: agency as they would have liked to a year ago.

934
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: And that commitment to winning and bringing in those guys

935
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: that you're going to see fit, I really think this

936
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: was the year that they had to go out and

937
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: spend money and really show the fan base that we

938
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: are here. We want to win in twenty twenty, There's

939
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: no question they want to fill Paul Brown Stadium again.

940
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: And we know we can remember when the Jungle was

941
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: truly rocking fifty seven consecutive sellouts to Paul Brown Stadium

942
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: from two thousand and three to two ten, forty three

943
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: consecutive sellouts at Riverfront Stadium from eighty eight to ninety two.

944
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: There are tremendous football fans in Cincinnati. They want to

945
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: be excited about this team, and I think the free

946
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: agent expended have definitely generated a lot of excitement. I

947
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: don't think that was the primary motivation, but I do

948
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: think it helps where that is concerned. I will throw

949
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: in one other thing, strike while the iron is hot.

950
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: When you have the flexibility of a starting quarterback in

951
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: his first contract, So assuming that Joe burrows the pick,

952
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna get roughly thirty seven million bucks in the

953
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: first four years of his rookie contract. That's about nine

954
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: point two five million a year, roughly half of what

955
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton was scheduled to make this season. So you're

956
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna have payroll flexibility under the cap for four years.

957
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: When Joe Burrows in his rookie contract and it's the

958
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: ideal time to spend money in free agency. So I

959
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: think the Bengals anticipated that and as I said, struck

960
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: while the iron was hot. I agreed Dan, and I

961
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: think also free agency is all about recruiting and it's

962
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: all about relationships. And like we said earlier, they wanted

963
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: to bring in guys from winning programs. They want to

964
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: increase you know, that atmosphere in the locker room for

965
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: their culture. So it's culture and it's recruiting connections culture

966
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: and connections Easton connection with DJ reader Zach coach, the receiver,

967
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: defensive backfield coach, coach one of the DBS. I mean,

968
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: it's like they know what these guys are. They've coached what,

969
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: They've had them in their in their meeting room, they've

970
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: had them on the football field, they've seen what they've

971
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: they're like as human beings. So when you have new coaches,

972
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: you know it took a year to get it. They're

973
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: all put together, but they have different tentacles to different

974
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: organizations and know these guys intimately. Well, they know better

975
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: than just reading their stats, you know, off of some

976
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: kind of a sheet. They know exactly what these people

977
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: are all about. So I take tip my cap to them.

978
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the Cincinnati Bengals two and fourteen record.

979
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: You know, you look at that and as teammates, players

980
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: will say to their teammates, what do you want to

981
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: go there for? They were two and fourteen Cincinnati? What

982
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: does that city have. It's not New York, it's not Miami,

983
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: it's not Atlanta, it's not this. It's not that I'm

984
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: telling you. I've heard it. I've heard it for many years.

985
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, recruiting players to come to Cincinnati's as we know,

986
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: it's the best kept secret probably in the country. It's

987
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: a great city, but it does not have the panash

988
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 1: that a lot of these other big cities have where

989
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: players think, endorsements, opportunities, all this. So a two and

990
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: fourteen record and combine that with a small Midwestern city

991
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, that's that's tough, tough recruiting. And they did it,

992
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: and they got a lot of a lot of key

993
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: players to commit and to come to Cincinnati. So I

994
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: took my cap to them. I think it's a hell

995
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: of an accomplishment. All right, A couple more questions from

996
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: me before we get to questions from our social media

997
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: A followers lap will aj Green sign an extension by

998
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: the deadline July fifteenth. I don't know if he'll sign

999
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: an extension, but he'll be with the team. I mean,

1000
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him sign the extension. Hopefully the

1001
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: extension would be less of a salary cap hit than

1002
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: the eighteen million dollars you know, tag. But depending on

1003
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: how many years and how big the bonus is and

1004
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: the pro ration and all that sort of thing, you

1005
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 1: really don't know. But I will say this, I don't

1006
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: think aj Green's signing a long term contract before July

1007
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: fifteenth or not will have no bearing on if they

1008
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: take a receiver in the draft. I think they take

1009
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: a receiver no matter what, if they feel like that

1010
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: receiver is the best player to take on their board.

1011
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: The aj Green situation is a separate deal. They're not commingled.

1012
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: They're not in the same pot whatsoever. In my opinion,

1013
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: so many great receivers in this draft, sooner or later

1014
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: they're going to pounce on at least one. Where do

1015
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: you think, Marissa deal or no deal by July fifteenth, Dan,

1016
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic about this. We're in such a unique

1017
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: situation right now, not only across the world in the

1018
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: sports world, with this coronavirus pandemic happening, It's just such

1019
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: a different time. We don't know when this is going

1020
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: to end, when the team will be back together. I

1021
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: just think it would be very difficult for a deal

1022
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: to get done by that point. Do the Bengals want

1023
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: it to happen. Absolutely, you want to be able to

1024
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: sign Aj Green to a long term deal. I'm just

1025
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: not optimistic that it will get done before July fifteenth.

1026
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what Aj Green is asking for. Does

1027
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: he want Julio Jones money. He kind of implied in

1028
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: one of our interview sessions with him late in the

1029
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: year that he wasn't necessarily expecting that. Julio Jones is

1030
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: now the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL three years,

1031
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: sixty six million bucks. You can't pay Aj Green twenty

1032
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: two million dollars a year after he hasn't played the

1033
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: last year and a half. Amari Cooper just got twenty

1034
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: million a year, Michael Thomas nineteen point two five million,

1035
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: OBJ gets eighteen million a year, Tyreek Hill gets eighteen

1036
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: million a year. AJ's about to get seventeen point eight

1037
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: six five as a franchise tag free agent. So is

1038
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: he looking for that kind of money over a three

1039
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: year deal? My guess is he probably wants something at

1040
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: least near the bottom of the top five eighteen million

1041
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: a year. Are you willing to go that high for

1042
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: somebody that, unfortunately has had injuries the last year and

1043
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: a half? I don't know if he came in a

1044
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: little bit lower than that. I think Michael Evans gets

1045
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: sixteen million a year. Would you give aj Green that

1046
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: much per year over a three year deal? Maybe, based

1047
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: on what you think he's still capable of and what

1048
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: he's meant to the franchise, But if he wants, you know,

1049
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: something closer to twenty million dollars a year, Unfortunately, I

1050
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: can't take the plunge just because I haven't seen him

1051
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: play for the last fast year and a half. Oh,

1052
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: I was just going to add, not only have you

1053
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: not seen him playing the last year and a half,

1054
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: you don't know exactly how that ankle looks. Because you

1055
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: and have an opportunity to get him in the building

1056
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: for OTAs or mini camps, depending on how long this

1057
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: is going to happen and go on. Well, I saw

1058
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 1: him up in Cleveland last year, warming up or doing

1059
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: his workouts with the trainers before the game. He looked

1060
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: like he could help watching that workout. I'll tell you what.

1061
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: And based on that, and I know he's a hell

1062
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: of a lot better now than he was then. And

1063
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I looked at Bob Bicknell, we were both watching, I said,

1064
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? This guy? This guy could go

1065
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: out there and help us today against the Cleveland Browns.

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00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Don't you think he's just shaking his head laughing. He

1067
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: is still an elite athlete. I personally think he's gonna

1068
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: light it up this year if he comes back on

1069
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: a franchise tag. He's got unbelievable pride. Unbelieved every pro

1070
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: athlete took. But AJ Green is one of these guys

1071
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: that is quiet. But he may be the most prideful

1072
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: player I think I've ever met, or in that top category.

1073
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: I think he comes back in the light sit up

1074
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: in that franchise tag year if that's the case. And

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00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: I should point out that the Bengals would then be

1076
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: able conceivably to sign him at the end of the year.

1077
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: But as a franchise tag player, you either get the

1078
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: deal done an extension done by July fifteenth, or he

1079
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: has to play out the season before you can try

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00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: to sign him to an extension. So that's why that

1081
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: July fifteenth date is significant. One more question for me

1082
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: then questions from the audience and Lap. We will direct

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00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: this question just to you because of your expertise where

1084
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: the topic is concerned. What is your confidence level for

1085
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: this offensive line? I think that they will address the

1086
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: offensive line somewhere in the draft now, in my opinion,

1087
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: looking at the lineman in this draft, the top of

1088
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: the aft out there's four or five really good tackles

1089
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: and they'll go pretty much in the first round. If

1090
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: one slides to thirty three, you know, you may have

1091
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: there may be a temptation, but then I wouldn't. There's

1092
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: not really any need to do anything until in the

1093
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: Bengal situation, maybe the fourth round because they have the

1094
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: first pick of the fourth round, because I think there

1095
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: are guys like in the third, fourth and fifth round.

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00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure at the top of the third

1097
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: round because that's that's a late too basically. But I

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00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: do have I do have confidence. I think I think

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00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: Xavier Fielo will will help this football team. He has

1100
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: a nasty streak about him. I mean he he fits

1101
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: what they're doing with this pin and pull stuff. He's

1102
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: very good, uh that way, I think he's gonna have

1103
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: an Impactum, I think Fred Johnson, don't forget about Fred Johnson.

1104
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: You know obviously that you know, he came He came

1105
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: on real strong during the course of the at the

1106
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: end of the season had had a couple of starts.

1107
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's gonna be He's gonna be

1108
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: one to monitor for sure. And then obviously, you know,

1109
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: you look at it. Jonah Williams wasn't able to play

1110
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: a snap. And it not not just the offensive line,

1111
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: but that's where talking to Jonah Williams and Xavier that's

1112
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: forty percent of the offensive line. That's two fists of

1113
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: it right there. Those two guys are projected Pennsylvania as

1114
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: starters that didn't take a snap for the Cincinnati Bengals

1115
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: last season. And you know, if I'm an offensive lineman

1116
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: and this is the way I approached it every year anyway,

1117
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: whether you started the year before or not, unless you're

1118
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Anthony Muno's and you're a perennial Pro bowler and you're

1119
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer. You got to think you

1120
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: have to earn your position every single training camp, and

1121
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: I know with Jim Turner as the line coach, that's

1122
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: the way it's going to be. You know, nobody. I

1123
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be ordained necessarily, but potentially

1124
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: you've got two new starters in there. Uh. You know,

1125
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: you've got a guy who in a couple of instances

1126
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: I saw get Pro Bowl nod Trey Hopkins at the

1127
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: center position. Michael Jordan, you know, had had his moments,

1128
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: but I think he learned a lot. He's a very

1129
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: young lineman. I think, you know, he's just gotta know

1130
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: where his arrow is going to go straight up. Fred

1131
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: Johnson Bobby Hart at the right tackle position. There may

1132
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: be a nice battle there, depending on who and what

1133
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: they draft. There's not a great number of guys at

1134
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: the guard position, particularly early the guard out the position

1135
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think would be drafted until addressed

1136
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: until very late in the draft. But I have more

1137
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: confidence watching the offensive line and Jim Turner adapt like

1138
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: they did when they were struggling so mightily to run

1139
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: the football to junk at all and to say we're

1140
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna change our schematic totally, and we're instead of an

1141
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: inside outside zone team, we're gonna be a pin and

1142
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: poll team. And to execute it the way they did,

1143
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: and to finish six in the NFL and rushing the

1144
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: second half of the season and then all of a

1145
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: sudden it was easier to pass protect. So am I

1146
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: saying that it's a premier group. No? Am I saying

1147
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: that that it could be better than people think it

1148
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: might be. Yeah, I am. It's all about Jannah Williams,

1149
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: isn't it If he's the guy he thought he was

1150
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: when he was the eleventh pick in the draft last year,

1151
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: a lot falls into place, no question. I mean, you know,

1152
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: you look, you look at this football team. The defense

1153
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: was addressed, but offensively, not just in the offensive line,

1154
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: but Jonah Williams at left tackle, jariously Joe Burrow, quarterback

1155
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: AJ Green, and wide receiver. None of those guys took

1156
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: a snap last year, none of them due to injury

1157
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: or being in college. So those are three very important

1158
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: positions on this football team. And they're gonna be manned

1159
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: by guys that did not take a single snap last

1160
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: season for the Cincinnati Bengals. It's gonna be a different

1161
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: look at offense right there alone. All right, a few

1162
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: questions from the audience via social media. I probably waited

1163
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: too long to get to these. I apologize, but I

1164
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: imagine we'll be doing this again at some point and

1165
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: we'll get the hang of the timing forgetting two audience questions.

1166
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of questions relating to possibly trading

1167
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: down from number one overall, So I'll condense it into

1168
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: a question from b Burrow PU R R E A

1169
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: U X. What would it take for the Bengals to

1170
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: move out on the top spot, Marissa, I'll give this

1171
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: one to you, Dan. I know I mentioned it briefly

1172
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: towards the top of but I think it's going to

1173
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: take a lot, and I think it's going to be

1174
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: more than someone saying, oh, what if Miami offers their

1175
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: first three rounders this year? If you are that sold,

1176
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm Joe Burrow being your franchise guy. It's going to

1177
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: take a haul. I would say Miami's three first rounders

1178
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: this year plus two a day tional picks in future years,

1179
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: whether that's two second rounders or potentially even more, it's

1180
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: going to take a lot. And I just don't see

1181
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: it happening, lap, is there a price? I think if

1182
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Mike Dicker returns, if if if Mike Dicka would return, possibly,

1183
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, because he was giving up his whole draft

1184
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: for Ricky Williams. But I really, I really don't. I

1185
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: really don't think so. And if somebody like I've said,

1186
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of times Miami or whoever else it is,

1187
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: if they're giving up that kind of capital, draft capital,

1188
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, what do they know that

1189
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: we don't. Why are they given all that up to

1190
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: get the guy that we can get. Why don't we

1191
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: just make it simple, don't overcomplicate this. We know what

1192
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: we got, Let's draft him. Yeah, I'm with you. And

1193
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: I was listening to Doug Gottlieb's show the other day

1194
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: and he was doing this big spiel about how the

1195
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: Bengals have multiple needs and they should trade down and

1196
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: get more picks from my ami Miami has multiple needs.

1197
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, why does that apply to the Bengals and

1198
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: not apply to the Dolphins. I can't figure that out

1199
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: when people keep talking about, oh, the Bengals have to

1200
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: trade down and get a bunch of first round picks.

1201
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: They've got needs. Sure, they've got needs. The Dolphins have

1202
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: needs too. The number one need is to get the

1203
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: best quarterback available. There you go, yeah, you've got that opportunity.

1204
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: I think you take advantage of it, all right. Our

1205
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: next question comes from coach k all Day. Excellent Twitter,

1206
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: handle lap, throw this one your way. How likely is

1207
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: that that the Bengals will sign Will Jackson to an extension? Well,

1208
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: that's a This is a big year for Will Jackson.

1209
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing the fly in the ointment

1210
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: in my opinion at this stage, and my observation of

1211
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: Will Jackson is lack of ability to find the football.

1212
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: Will Jackson can run, he can cover, but in a

1213
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: lot of instances, he does not find the ball as

1214
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: easily as you think he might be able to. And

1215
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's that's something that can be taught, can

1216
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: be learned, but it's something that you know, the real

1217
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: great ones when they talk about ball skills, not just

1218
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: catching the football, finding the football, and for as much

1219
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: talent as he has, is not secured the pig very often.

1220
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he has the big pick six against Brett Farr,

1221
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: the highlight of his career, but you know, I finding

1222
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: the football, making plays on the football, and then honestly,

1223
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: like we talked about before, improving that tackling, you know,

1224
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: get people on the ground. You don't necessarily have to

1225
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: blow people up, but get him on the ground. So

1226
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: I think this is a big year for him. And

1227
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they addressed cornerback in free agency like

1228
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: they did and in your model, Dan, if there's a

1229
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: cornerback that slides, they may take a thirty three potentially

1230
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: if they do that. If I'm Will Jackson, it's like

1231
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: bring it. You know what, in competition breeds excellence. In

1232
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: competition should breed excellence, and nobody should be fearful or

1233
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, afraid of competition. That's what it's all about.

1234
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: All right, one more question from the audience, And again

1235
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: this is a compilation of a wide variety of questions.

1236
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: People have asked in general terms, what's going to happen

1237
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: to this guy? Others are asking me will he be

1238
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: traded overnight during the draft between rounds? Between rounds one

1239
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: and two? And the person I'm talking about is Andy Dalton?

1240
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: What is going to happen with Andy Dalton? Marissa, you go,

1241
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: first question of the hour, right, Dan, I think it's

1242
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: surprised a number of people that he has not been

1243
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: traded to this point, especially with so many different moving

1244
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we've seen throughout the league so far. This

1245
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: is a tough one for me because you would like

1246
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: to get value and something out of return instead of

1247
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: just releasing and for the amount of money he's due,

1248
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: I don't think the scenario could play out where they

1249
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: would keep him and have him be a mentor in

1250
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: a backup role to Joe Burrow. I just think he's

1251
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 1: do way too much money for that scenario to play out.

1252
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: I think it might come to the case where they

1253
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: end up releasing him if something doesn't happen on draft weekend,

1254
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: where a team comes in and you know, you could

1255
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: maybe try to work something out there where they could

1256
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: trade him to a team. But but what team would

1257
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: that be? A lot of teams are kind of already

1258
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: set when you look at the quarterback position. Lap Yeah,

1259
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: I think that Andy Dalton was the victim of a

1260
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: glut of quarterbacks and free agency this year, and including

1261
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: guys that weren't necessarily free agents, but the Goat signs

1262
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay and Winston's let go. I mean it's like,

1263
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: and then all free agents that were out there, and

1264
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: so I think he was a tough situation because in

1265
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: order to get into Andy Dalton you have to give

1266
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: up draft capital in the form of draft and take

1267
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: on that salary. If you trade for him, you take

1268
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: on that seventeen and a half million dollars salary. So

1269
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: that's two big things to do when there was such

1270
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: a glut of quarterbacks and I think Andy got caught

1271
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: in that game of musical chairs and there weren't enough

1272
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: chairs left when the music stopped, and there's still, you know,

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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks out there and Andy being amongst them, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you look at it, Andy Dalton would be at

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Speaker 1: great insurance policy because with the coronavirus and everything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Andy faced this in twenty eleven when they had the

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Speaker 1: work stoppage and two leaders, Dome top Peco and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Witworth put together team workouts to get Andy Dalton up

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Speaker 1: to speed and ready for training camp, and Jay Gruden

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Speaker 1: did a great job installing everything with Andy and they

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Speaker 1: went to the playoffs with a nine and seven record.

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Speaker 1: Where leaders do that? You know, this year, with it

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Speaker 1: being such an unusual year, Will Joe Burrow would that

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Speaker 1: Football IQ would be able to absorb the Bengals offense

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Speaker 1: and take it away right away. The value that Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton has. He knows this system cold. You know, he

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Speaker 1: could install it for Joe Burrow. And would Andy do

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Speaker 1: that for Joe Burrow? You know, all these questions are

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: are there? So do you trade them? Nobody? Everybody's waiting

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals to cut them. And after the draft,

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Speaker 1: you know, New England's gonna be laying in the weeds

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01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: and New England's gonna try to get them for, you know,

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Speaker 1: as low a pick as they can if they trade

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Speaker 1: for him. But then I think it would be we're

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: not going to pick your salary up. So if the

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Speaker 1: Bengals say we'll keep you, we're not going to pay

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Speaker 1: you seventeen and a half million, will Andy say, well,

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Speaker 1: then cut me. I'd rather go somewhere else to take

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Speaker 1: a paid cut. I don't want to stay with an

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Speaker 1: organization that I started for for a number of years

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Speaker 1: and took the playoffs five times and take a pay

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Speaker 1: cut and be a backup. Let me go somewhere else

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Speaker 1: to do that. So, man, there's all kinds of questions

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Speaker 1: and how is this going to unfold for the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals and Andy Dalton. It is a massive question. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt when you look at it. Andy Dalton's salary

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01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: could off set the franchise tag of ag Green almost

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Speaker 1: dollar a dollar. But we'll see. Look what's still out there.

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Speaker 1: Cam first pick in the draft NFL MVP took his

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Speaker 1: team to the Super Bowl. Jamis Swinston, number one pick

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01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: in the draft, led the NFL in passing yards last year.

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Speaker 1: He did also lead in interceptions and overall giveaways. But

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Speaker 1: still you're talking about two incredibly talented quarterbacks. Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: is still out there formers. Super Bowl MVP has Lap

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01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: mentioned its musical chairs. There were more chairs that are

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Speaker 1: more quarterbacks than chairs this year, and I think maybe

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Speaker 1: we are learning what the rest of the NFL thinks

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Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton. Nobody thinks he's bad. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we all think that. He's proven that he can lead

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Speaker 1: a team to the playoffs, did it five times in

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Speaker 1: a row of the Bengals. But maybe other teams are

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Speaker 1: saying he's good, but he's not great. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people probably feel that way about him, and

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Speaker 1: as a result, like you're saying, they don't want to

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Speaker 1: pay him more than seventeen million dollars when they see

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Speaker 1: the possibility that he would be cut and then could

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Speaker 1: conceivably be signed for a much lower price as a

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Speaker 1: free agent. So I don't know if the Bengals had offers.

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Speaker 1: I thought that the Bears were a realistic possibility. They

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Speaker 1: chose Nick Foles instead and were willing to give up

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: a fourth round draft pick for him. But I do

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01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: think everything seems to be pointing toward Andy ultimately being

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Speaker 1: released and signing as a free agent with somebody else.

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Speaker 1: The only thing we talked about this before Dan is

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Speaker 1: Jake Gruden is down with the Jaguars. Jake Gruden was

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Speaker 1: the first coordinator Andy Dalton had great relationship, worked well together.

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Speaker 1: Falls left the Jaguars. I mean, would Jake Gruden say,

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Speaker 1: you know what if we can get you know, for

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01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: seventh round pick or something. Let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: get him, because if he gets waived, you know, will

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Speaker 1: somebody before us pick him up on the on the

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Speaker 1: waiver wire or if Bill Belichick's interested, But he would

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Speaker 1: not be subjected to the waiver process. Terminated he'd be terminated, right,

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01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: He'd be terminated. So yeah, I mean it's and you

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: look at it. Jameis Winston two thousand and eleven number

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Speaker 1: one pick in the draft, Andy Dalton two thousand and eleven,

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: thirty third pick in the draft. You know, they they

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Speaker 1: their careers careers have been very similar in fact, you know,

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: taking their teams to successes. Cam Newton obviously at a

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Speaker 1: higher level of the Super Bowl and MVP and all that.

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Speaker 1: But here they are now, at this stage of their career,

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: is coming too the league at the exact same time,

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01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: being in the virtue of the same place after doing

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Speaker 1: what they did for their respective franchises. It's crazy. My

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Speaker 1: watch says, that's been an hour that went fast. This

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Speaker 1: was fun, It did all right. We'll do it again

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Speaker 1: something time. I'm thank you so much for doing this.

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Speaker 1: We hope everybody that watched and listened enjoyed it. We

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Speaker 1: will try to get to more questions via social media

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Speaker 1: the next time we do one of these live Bengals

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Speaker 1: Booth podcasts. For lap for Marissa, for Seth Tanner who

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Speaker 1: helped put it together. I'm Dan Horde. We remind you

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