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Speaker 1: From the Rams studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to between the Horns. Miles Simmons, DeMarco far is to

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Speaker 1: my left today. This is a little odd, but who

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Speaker 1: cares because the Los Angeles Rams are the twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: NFC West Division champions. Yes, mister Simmons, Oh you have

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Speaker 1: a jacket on. So it's mister Simmons. Now where's Miles

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Speaker 1: the best I want to talk football with Miles, not

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Speaker 1: mister Simmons, not the substitute teacher. Now I'm kidding. Good stuff, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean great. I mean I've been saying it for

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Speaker 1: a while. It sounds great. Tried on for size La Rams,

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Speaker 1: NFC West Division champions. Yeah, that sounds really good. Um,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound far fetched. This team has really really

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Speaker 1: earned it. Yeah yeah, from camp to now, um, they've

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Speaker 1: got nothing but better and they stayed together. How many

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Speaker 1: miles have they traveled this year? So many? Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: many times we've been on plane? Yes, yeah, wow. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that many teams that could handle that with

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Speaker 1: a first year coach. Right, and you know we talked

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Speaker 1: about this back after the London trip, right, like that

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Speaker 1: was a trip where you were able to to go

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Speaker 1: into Jacksonville. Your offense didn't have the best day. We

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Speaker 1: know how good that Jacksonville defense is now, but special

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Speaker 1: teams came through with the win. The defense came through

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Speaker 1: with that win. And then you stay in Jacksonville, where

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Speaker 1: you could have been distracted all week. You fly over

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Speaker 1: to London. Yeah, you fly over to London. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then you still defeat the Cardinals thirty three to zero.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was really just a point in

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Speaker 1: the season where you say, all right, like boom, that

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Speaker 1: that's that. That's where you say you take control of

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Speaker 1: the division. I think, yeah, and now here we are

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Speaker 1: it's December twenty six. Then boom, you know, the playoff

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Speaker 1: game a mud hole in Arizona. Then you come back

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Speaker 1: for a buy. Then you go to New York and

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Speaker 1: do the exact same thing. Right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: all that, from New York to now to Tennessee, you

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Speaker 1: lose Robert Woods, your arguably your most productive best receiver,

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Speaker 1: and you don't miss a beat. Guys, just pick up

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Speaker 1: the pace. Receivers pick it up. Todd Gurley picks it up.

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Speaker 1: Your offensive line picks it up. This is funny. You

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Speaker 1: may have a Pro Bowl quarterback or you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a Pro bowlowler quarterbawl. Yeah, possibly an MVP running back

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Speaker 1: and not a single Pro bowler on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You tell me how that's possible. NFL. Well, yes, you

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Speaker 1: tell me how that's possible. There should be at least two.

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Speaker 1: I firmly believe. Oh yeah, Andrew Whitworth is a first alternative.

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Speaker 1: Possibly three with your center, Yes, the guy's been tremendous. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean your whole left side from your center out

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Speaker 1: should have gotten Pro Bowl consideration in my opinion. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with you. And obviously we watched these

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Speaker 1: games every week and we see these guys every day,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's a little bit different, I think, for

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Speaker 1: our perspective perception than a national one. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, yeah, you don't get to where you are

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Speaker 1: without those guys doing what they've done. And I mean

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Speaker 1: particularly Roger Saffled because of how he's been able to

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Speaker 1: then John Sullivan to his right. I think those two

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Speaker 1: there has been terrific. But lost in all this about

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay talking to Jared Goff pre snap right, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's been overblown in my opinion. I agree the

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Speaker 1: guys out wide may or may not be affected by

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Speaker 1: what goes on when Jared Goff changes the play. Todd

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Speaker 1: Goff changes the play. Those five guys up front are

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Speaker 1: changing everything on the fly, right, And still you come

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Speaker 1: up with a zero pro bowler. That doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: But they have been absolutely tremendous and I still think

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Speaker 1: there's more out there for them. Yeah, I still think

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Speaker 1: they can get better. Well, I think you can ask

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Speaker 1: the question, okay, why are the Rams Division champions? And

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Speaker 1: you've got a long, long list of reasons, and we'll

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Speaker 1: get too many of them, I think, in this show.

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Speaker 1: But one of them is definitely that the guys up

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Speaker 1: definitely a big reason for success. Having Andrew Witworth here,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, It's it's overstated sometimes, but when a guy

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Speaker 1: usually you're talking about that team either as a chat

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Speaker 1: So it's been great even when they go down in

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Speaker 1: Time fought his way back into the lineup. So these

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Speaker 1: but you you always say, you always say it starts

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Speaker 1: And it was just a play where you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: my reaction to when Todd Gurley takes off on that play,

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Speaker 1: And I hope he gets the hardware he deserves. If not,

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Speaker 1: especially through the month of December, no doubt. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Brady and quarterbacks they're great. They stand in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: Those are yards that Todd Gurley gets that nobody else

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Speaker 1: real good position to be successful. Obviously, we just talked

426
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Speaker 1: about all the things with Todd Gurley, and we were

427
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: mentioning the offensive line a bit earlier too. But even

428
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, you know, you you go back to the

429
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 1: beginning of the season and it's just okay, you expects Yes,

430
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: I remember, I do remember the Do you remember the

431
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: man I remember all of the Manion t um that

432
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: training camp was interesting, like, oh boy, I don't know

433
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: if this is gonna work well, na be Wow, this

434
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: is gonna be a work in progress. And I remember

435
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: going into that Oakland game, the preseason game, where you

436
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 1: started to see, Wow, Okay, I get it now. I

437
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: understand when you see the entire offensive game plan together

438
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: and it was a shortened version, but it is preseason.

439
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: But you saw that Ram's offense manipulate that Raider defense

440
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: into giving them the matchups or the open space that

441
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: they wanted at will I get it. Wow, this is unbelievable.

442
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: This has a chance to be something special. I didn't

443
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be thirty points a game. I

444
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: don't think anybody thought, good lord, but Jared Goff it

445
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: was obvious from the start from that point. He can

446
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: run this offense. He's athletic enough to run this offense.

447
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: He's got enough arm to get the ball anywhere it

448
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: needs to go in this offense. Um Physically, I think

449
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: he can do it. Handling it mentally, I think is

450
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: a whole nother story. Yeah, he's been challenged like he's

451
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: never been challenged before. In my opinion, the things he's

452
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: been asked to do on the fly or week to week,

453
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: and it keeps growing. Think about what it's going to

454
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: be next year, two years from now, three years down

455
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: the roads. As you continue, the expectations only grow. And

456
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: that's something that you know, players have talked about and

457
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: they talk about embracing those expectations and trying to match

458
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: it or exceed what those expectations are. But just going

459
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Speaker 1: through golf stat line, and you know, we'll we'll talk

460
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: about this in a bit, but it's unclear whether or

461
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: not he's going to see the field any more than

462
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty six. He's gonna see it, whether he's gonna take

463
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: it as a different story. Yeah, you're not going out there, okay,

464
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: mister semantics substitute teacher. But he's completed sixty two percent

465
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: of his passes, thirty eight hundred four passing yards, twenty

466
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, only seven interceptions. And again, it's just a

467
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: really remarkable kind of turnaround from year to year. And yes,

468
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: you could say, all right, obviously quarterbacks from year one

469
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: to year two, they do take steps. But nobody thought

470
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: that Jared Goff was going to finish this season. Nobody,

471
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Speaker 1: I should say, nobody outside the building really thought that

472
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was going to finish with one hundred and

473
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: point five quarterback ratings. Wow, probably he didn't. Probably he did.

474
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, look what a difference a year makes.

475
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: But I mean the guys they brought in, especially like

476
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 1: upgrading the receiver room, right, Yeah, Robert Woods, you know,

477
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 1: being as good as advertised. And you had to be,

478
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: I would say, a football nerd to really know that

479
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: Robert Woods could be this good because up in Buffalo

480
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: he ran great routes. The baul just didn't get to him.

481
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: You know, it was a different situation, a different quarterback,

482
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: a different you know, a different offensive game plan. But

483
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: the route running was as precise as anybody in the

484
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: National Football League. And he's brought that professionalism here. Yes,

485
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: And you couple that with a guy who knows how

486
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: to use him and Todd Gurley manipulating the defense creating

487
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: those open spaces for you. Um, they've been tremendous. Now,

488
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: Cooper cup Um, I think you're one catch away or

489
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: one drop away from having a Rookie of the Year

490
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: type season are you referring to? And it's a little

491
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: unfortunate that we have to like, say which drop, but

492
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: the drop against one. Well, you could also say you

493
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: can also say a fumble away in Minnesota because that

494
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: would have changed the game. Um, great play by Minnesota.

495
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take that away from anybody. I know. I

496
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: know you're a defensive guy. That was out of hand,

497
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: that was into hands, that that was a touchdown and

498
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: it just didn't happen. Now, look, he's made some great

499
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 1: catches in Tennessee. I think he's saved the day for you. Yeah,

500
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: oh yeah, absolutely so, he's more than made up for

501
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: it and once actually yeah so, I think all he

502
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: cost himself with that so far is probably some hardware.

503
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: But everything else being equal, the guy's been tremendous. Still

504
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: doesn't play like a rookie in my opinion, No, I

505
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: don't think he does either. And I think you know,

506
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: you just said, he probably saved the day against Tennessee.

507
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: That was an incredible catch excuse me, in the back

508
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: of the end zone on that third down in the

509
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, And technically it is now Golf's first fourth

510
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: quarter comeback of his career because he's able to complete

511
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: that pass. That was like a movie, Like I'm serious,

512
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: that was like the longest yard that last seen in

513
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: the original Longest Yard whear was in slow motion. That

514
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: ball hung up at the air for ever. Marker. You know,

515
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: I have not seen the Longest Yard either one. No,

516
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: there's a remake too. I know you haven't. You don't

517
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: see football movies. I've seen. I've seen some football movies,

518
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: but like you know, you know me where I don't know. Look,

519
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: talk that connects as football anyway, and you don't even

520
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: see football movies. That's insane. I've seen some football movies.

521
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: I've seen, remember the Titans dramatic movies where it's in

522
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: slow motion. Where's Gene Hackman and um the replacement? Yeah,

523
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: the replacements. I love that. That's a comedy. It's a

524
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: great movie. Oh my goodness. Anyway, but yes, it's the

525
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: last scene is in slow motion. That ball hung in

526
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: air forever. It was a great route, great space and

527
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Jared Goff ball placement right on the money in Cooper

528
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Cup doing the toe tap to and look. I mean

529
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: I even had to to like educate some fans and

530
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: I rarely do this, take my headset off and just

531
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: mouth the words to people. One knee equal two feet, dude.

532
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: I had to do the exact same thing in the

533
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: press box yes, because everybody was like, I don't think

534
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: he got two feet and I said one knee was

535
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: two feet. Yeah, read the rule book. But yeah, just

536
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: an awesome play, great play. The thing I love most

537
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: about him, uh catch, drop, touchdown, what have you. He's

538
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: the same guy and that reminds me of Jared Goff

539
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: no matter what when lose, same guy, flatline. So in

540
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: those sort of guys have a tendency to keep getting

541
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: better and better and better and better. Yeah, and that's funny.

542
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: You just the way that Cooper Cup I think has

543
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: emerged this year. It's something that we saw. You know

544
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: that he had the ability and OTAs and then in

545
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: training camp, but you just never know how these things

546
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: are going to turn out. Right, because he's a record

547
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: center inn FCS, we all know that he did. He

548
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: was an incredible wide receiver in Eastern Washington. But you

549
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: have to be able to translate things to the game.

550
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: And ever since he's gotten here, he has shown that

551
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: he is not your typical rookie wide receiver, no doubt,

552
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: and it's nice to see that that has translated to

553
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: him being so good on the field. Oh, no doubt.

554
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: He had his eminem momentum Eminem moment. I don't know that.

555
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: Just follow me on this um when the first time

556
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: Eminem actually took a mic and was gonna wrap Eminem

557
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: like not like Eminem. Imagine the first time he got

558
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: up the battle rap. I know there's a movie made

559
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: of it, but just think in real life. I've never

560
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: seen that movie either. You've never seen eight mile. I mean,

561
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: just stop, let's just stop right now, stop the podcast,

562
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: but just imagine what it was like for him the

563
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: first time he took the mic. Just what people thought, right,

564
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: is this guy doing? What is this guy doing here?

565
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: And I remember back in training camp, and this is

566
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: when Tremaine Johnson was, you know, really really hawking to

567
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the football team. He was that guy.

568
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: And he lined up on Cooper Cup in a seven

569
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: on seven or no this one on one in training camp.

570
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: I remember what you're talking about. And I mean everybody

571
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: was watching. And I wouldn't say Cooper Cup beat him

572
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: like a dog, but he beat him, beat him. He

573
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: absolutely just beat him in a one on one situation.

574
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: And Tremaine Johnson went back and shook his hand. Yeah

575
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: yeah that he clapped, Yeah, he clapped, and he's like

576
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: he was like, all right, wow, you got me. Now,

577
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: if you can do that to your most experienced corner

578
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: in that situation, you can do that to just about anybody.

579
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: So we knew probably then this guy was going to

580
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: be a player. But I think he's been better than

581
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: advertised for the most part, for sure. I mean, and

582
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: that's why he is now leading the Los Angeles Rams

583
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: in yards receiving. He's got eight hundred and sixty nine,

584
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: so it's a good total form, nice total form um.

585
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: He's also got five touchdowns and sixty two receptions. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

586
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 1: look the postseason, and look I don't think it's uh

587
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: we talk about a rookie wall. I think he's gonna

588
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: hit a rookie wall. Yeah yeah, if you if you

589
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: do at the rookie wall. He usually comes around to

590
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: summer because they're not usually playing games in December. Yeah,

591
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: but with a FCS, I mean, you do play those

592
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: playoff games, so he might be used to playing more. Yeah,

593
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: it's it's a different level of football, but still it

594
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: is the postseason where everything is magnified. Yeah, one mistake

595
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: and you're out. So I don't think he's going to

596
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: be affected by playing in the quote unquote postseason. I

597
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: remember my first postseason game. I was warned that it

598
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: goes up a level. Like when I was a rookie

599
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: playing in the preseason, I thought I had it, you know,

600
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: all made and I knew what they said, Well, the

601
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: regular season's going to be different, kid, remember, and I

602
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: felt that difference the first time I went out there. Wow,

603
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: this is different, and then the postseason the same way.

604
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: It goes up a notch again. So you're gonna feel that.

605
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Everybody on this roster is going to feel that. Yeah.

606
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: But the best part about it is guys like Andrew

607
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Whitworth have been out there and at least can brace

608
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: you for it and get you to understand that you're

609
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: gonna need to raise your game up a little bit more.

610
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: If you think you have no more to give, are

611
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: you are you're given everything you've got? Well, there's more

612
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: inside you than you know and it's going to come out.

613
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: You're going to surprise yourself. How does that kind of

614
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: thing have to start happening? Mean? Are they having those

615
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: conversations now? Do you think starting in the locker room

616
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: after you win on Sunday, you start saying, okay, like

617
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: this is great we've taken care of this, but there

618
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: because there's more out there for us. You need to

619
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: know what to expect. Yeah, it's weird, and I've been

620
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: through this to where it's it's week to week, day

621
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: to day and you're only worried about, you know, your

622
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: next opponent. But you know, it happened to us. We

623
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: had to play Philadelphia before we got into the postseason.

624
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: And it's a little bit different because you are champs now.

625
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: People treat you as such. And I wouldn't say the

626
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: last game doesn't matter, but your focus is just a

627
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: little bit off. So I would bet those conversations have

628
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: started now. But you don't want to disrespect your opponent.

629
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: You don't want to respect get ready to play. But

630
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: I bet those conversations are started now. Yeah, it's interesting

631
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: because of the situation that you're in that this San

632
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Francisco game kind of takes on a different kind of meaning,

633
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not it's not meaningless, but it's

634
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: certainly not as meaningful as it would have been true

635
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: had you not won that game. And especially because the

636
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks won their game against the Dallas Cowboys, it's interesting

637
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: the veteran guys could look at the younger guys who

638
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: are going to play, and they'll never release it or

639
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: say this publicly, but they're gonna look at the guys

640
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: that are gonna play major snaps and say, don't let

641
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: it down. You're still rams. This is still the forty

642
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: nine ers. We still have a game to win. You

643
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: don't take a step back because I'm not playing. Yeah,

644
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: I expect you to play as well as I would

645
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: have played. So I mean, you keep that same intensity.

646
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: It's just you know, your your starters, your frontline guys

647
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: probably won't play as much, if at all. Yeah, and

648
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: you know that. I remember getting ready to play the

649
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game playing Tampa Bay when Tampa Bay was

650
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, and we're talking about Super Bowl tickets before

651
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: we actually played the game. You want to talk about weird? Yeah,

652
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: that was That was something our head coach, Dick Vermill

653
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: did not want to do, right, But he had to

654
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: stand Oh really, yeah, he had to because we only

655
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: had a week between games. We were going to play

656
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl the next Sunday. Yeah, that's why the

657
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: year they moved it back. Instead of the two weeks,

658
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: we had one week. So he finished the team speech.

659
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting ready to play and they said, guys,

660
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: I have to, we have to And he let the

661
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: assistant head coach actually tell us we only have X

662
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: amount of tickets for the super Bowl. This is how

663
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: we do at X, Y and Z. Okay, forget, forget

664
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: what I just said, Go beat Tampa. It was weird,

665
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: but he had to do it. Yeah, that's interesting. I

666
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: didn't realize that was a year that you didn't have

667
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah. Yeah, we went right from one Sunday

668
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: to the next. I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess

669
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: that was that was basically like the first year of

670
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: my football consciousness. Oh really, okay, yeah, it was back

671
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: in ninety nine. It was odd and you didn't worry

672
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: about the pain then. I mean, when you're when you're

673
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: that deep into the postseason. Yeah, I mean I wouldn't

674
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: say your boob boos and now he's go away. I

675
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: mean they're still there, but they just got pushed to

676
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: the wayside. Man, I mean, what's in front of it

677
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: was way more important than any sort of pain you're

678
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: gonna feel. Right, Yeah, But what was it like? I

679
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: mean you said you had to go to Philadelphia. Just

680
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: what was that sort of week, like, you know, in

681
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: terms of knowing that you've already clinged, knowing that you're

682
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: going to be in the postseason, but you still have

683
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: this regular season game to play. It was tougher getting

684
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: into the hotel. That's the first thing. They're more fans,

685
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: way more fans. Oh yeah, in Philadelphia. Yes, there were

686
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: way more interviews given that don't usually speak. Oh yeah, yeah,

687
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna happen to You still think of

688
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: yourself as the same old team you had in training camp,

689
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: but then you realize that the world around you sees

690
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: you as champions, as division champs, or as a front

691
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: runner as the number one seed. You're you're still just

692
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: the guys where the guys trying to you know, right

693
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: the wrong change the culture. But on the outside you're

694
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: a completely different story to the world. And once those

695
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: doors open up, it's kind of surprising to you. Yeah,

696
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: and then after a while it becomes something you get

697
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: used to. Like we said, when were in Tennessee, you

698
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: saw a lot more autograph seekers, a lot more fans,

699
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: a lot more fans showed up. Yeah, rams fans showed up. Well,

700
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: that becomes the norm after a while. You become used

701
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: to seeing it, but the first time it happens to you, boy,

702
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: it's special. Yeah, it's really really cool to see. Yeah,

703
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: so you got people started talking to you, they wanted

704
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: your autograph. Finally, look at this guy. Wait a minute, No,

705
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: are you is that a joke? It's not really a joke.

706
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: It was a question that just hurts. Why did that hurts?

707
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: You're just mad because you haven't seen eight Mile? And

708
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: I called you out on it. No, you're the only

709
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: guy in this role that hasn't seen eight Mile? Where

710
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: are you from? I'm from Cleveland. How could you not

711
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: have seen eight Mile? Where not Detroy? That's the end

712
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Jurism video. Well anyway, at least we're

713
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: not Detroit, right. I do want to bring this up

714
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: because it's a thing that people are talking about, and

715
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: with good reason, that the kicking situation. So we recorded

716
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: our podcast last week on Wednesday, and then of course

717
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: the Wednesday morning today recording it on Tuesday. So yeah,

718
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: hopefully nothing else big happens this afternoon later, but um,

719
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: then Greg Zerlina comes out that he is he hasn't

720
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: injured back, and that he's going on ir and then

721
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: that the Rams are going to sign Sam Ficken, who

722
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: had not made any he had not even attempted a

723
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: regular season kick in the NFL, came out missus his

724
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: first two and he's affected the game basically in the

725
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: game plan because the Rams have an opportunity on their

726
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: first drive to kick maybe a fifty yard field goal,

727
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: and they don't. Yes, you're in jour line range and

728
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: you don't do it. But then you know, Ficken does recover.

729
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: He makes the next his next three extra points, and

730
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: that makes it so that the Rams can defeat the

731
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Titans the way that. Um So, I guess my question

732
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: is do you think the Rams will stay the way

733
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: they are at kicker or do you think that they're

734
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: still going to evaluate it and maybe sign it different.

735
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't know how they

736
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: handle that. I mean, I guess I guess you wouldn't

737
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: be wrong either way. It's because you had twelve guys

738
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: in and he's the guy you chose out of the

739
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: right out of that twelve. So he's the best of

740
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: that group. So what do you do bring the same

741
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: eleven guys back to compete with him? Again? I don't know, Yeah,

742
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you just you try to support

743
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: him and you know, hope he gets better. And look,

744
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: I think he got better towards the end of the game.

745
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: He definitely did. He definitely got more comfortable. I imagine

746
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: how that felt. You were on the couch and then

747
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: you're out there for a potential division champion, right and

748
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: you're the place kicker. So I mean you got your

749
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: your hips out early. So yeah, it may affect play calling.

750
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: I think it did on Sunday. It may affect it

751
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: down the stretch, but at some point, you know it's

752
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: going to be a factor. Not having your Pro Bowl kicker,

753
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: kicker is going to be a fact, right, It already is, right,

754
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just go out and say, all right,

755
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: well we're replacing the best kicker in the league and

756
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be fine, Like, yeah, it's going to

757
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: change the way things are. And I don't think that's

758
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: that's not the worst thing in the world. Yeah, it's

759
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: already bad enough that your kicker, he wouldn't have been

760
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: on the street exactly, right, Yeah, the way it is

761
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: exactly It was Week sixteen, and you have to bring

762
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: somebody in that no matter whether or not they were

763
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: going to be a veteran with some experience or somebody

764
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: who was passing a series fifty seven on the Monday

765
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: and then he's kicking for the Rams on Sunday. We

766
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: just kind of we replaced our punters and we didn't

767
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: miss a beat. Um, I believe we had and a

768
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: punter is different than replacing it kick. I think we

769
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: had problems with our placekicker. He got hurt in Tennessee

770
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: and it didn't matter. Um, if you have a good

771
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: football team, you have a good football team, period. True.

772
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: Um I we I I'll speak for myself, sort of

773
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: disrespected the Titans by saying it probably won't be a

774
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: field gold game. Uh yeah, from here on out, any

775
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: game could be a field goal game. But it is

776
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: what it is. You can't change it now. No, you

777
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: can't change it now. And like like you were saying,

778
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean he got better at Sam Thick and I

779
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: should say got better as the game went on, and

780
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: that was a critical piece of it. But the other thing,

781
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just the field goals, it's the

782
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: kickoffs too. Yeah, because especially against the Titans, who have

783
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: one of the better returners in the league. I think

784
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: we can say in the dory Jackson. When those things

785
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: aren't going into the end zone, deep into the end

786
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: zone or out of the end zone, you've got to

787
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: make sure you cover those kicks. And Tori Jackson made

788
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: it really tough on the LA. Well, it took a

789
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: page right out of the Rams playbook with that long

790
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: return across the field. Yes, that's called an adjustment and

791
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: they did it. And that's another thing. Marquis Christian getting

792
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: hurt in that football game. That's one of your best

793
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: special teamers. Yes, yeah, so not having that guy out there,

794
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean that could be a problem. It was a

795
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: problem at one point, but yeah, I mean I have

796
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: every confidence and so do you, and so does the

797
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: rest of the world. If you don't, you should inbones fossil. Oh. Yes,

798
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: especially on kickoffs, there's you could place it in certain areas.

799
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: You could blue kick it to make sure you limit

800
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: a guy's return. You may give up five extra yards

801
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: in field position. I think your defense can handle that,

802
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: but you can really limit a team from returning it,

803
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: even if you can't make it to the end zone. Yeah,

804
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: speaking of special teams, what do you know what happened

805
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: on that play the kickoff where Tennessee tried to onsite

806
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: it and then basically we're told, no, yeah, they cheated.

807
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Well what happened? Well, they tried, well, they think, because

808
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: in the press box it was really unclear and there

809
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: was some there was some gray area. There was the

810
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: ball spotted ready to play. Did the officials give you

811
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: the wind up? Luck? Are they ready for play? Um?

812
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: But usually if they do, they'll give the other team

813
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: a chance to at least put their team out there. Right, Yeah,

814
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: so I know, Well, I've also I don't ever recall

815
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: ever seeing a team giving the wine getting the wine.

816
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: They're ready to play right before the other team was

817
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: lined up in any like the other It's not that

818
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: they just weren't lined up, it's they were in the

819
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: huddle on the sideline. There was a lot going on,

820
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: and knowing knowing bones fossil like we do, knowing head

821
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: coach Sean McVay like we do, that made absolutely no sense.

822
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Right Oh they were living, Yeah, absolutely living. Yeah they

823
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: should have been. They should have been, um, And I'm

824
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: glad it didn't stand. Yeah, Yeah, I mean, I mean

825
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: that's that's I mean, from Tennessee's perspective, I get it.

826
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: Any team's perspective. If you're not ready, that's not my fault. Yeah,

827
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm ready to kick off, and and it's it's you

828
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 1: put the ball ready for play and you're not ready.

829
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: That's on you. But I mean, why would you want

830
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: to steal one like that anyway? Well, because you want

831
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: to win the game, But I wouldn't want to win

832
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: that way. But I think it was what it just

833
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: seemed like it might have been an officiating error. There

834
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: were a couple because it seemed like the rams were

835
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: told that there was a timeout, whether it's a TV

836
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: timeout or something, and then I was reading lips on

837
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: the broadcast and it was and one of the officials

838
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: on the sideline was like, no, I said it was

839
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: time out because you had the referee come out and

840
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: say before the play happened, Los Angeles called timeout, right,

841
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: And then you can see Sean McVay again reading lips

842
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I didn't. I didn't call time out.

843
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: That's something they're talking about. That was a mistake, yes,

844
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: And then I think you see the official going over

845
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: and he's pointing at himself. He's me right, I said,

846
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: well that was funny. There was a penalty on special

847
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: teams to where Sean Mannion got called for a penalty. Yeah,

848
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: punt team, right, yeah, well really not only not only

849
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: on punt team, but he was also on the opposite side. Yeah,

850
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: fourteen got a face mask. There were a few issues

851
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: our fourteen. Yeah up quarterback right, okay, yeah, there's only two. Yes, yeah,

852
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: there was golf and him and we're gonna put that

853
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: guy on funting, right, just making sure. Okay, Yeah, again,

854
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: there were a few issues there. But I do also

855
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: want to bring out something about the defense, and that's

856
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: just the fact that Rams now have eight takeaways on

857
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the opening possession. That's ridiculous. Is there a stat for that?

858
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: Is there? Is that a record of some kind? I

859
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: wonder if it is. I I hope Eliah Sports, ESPN

860
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Stats and Info like will help us by looking that up,

861
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: because I did ask Wade Phillips about that last week

862
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: at his press conference, and he was saying, the only

863
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: other one that I can kind of remember being like that.

864
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's basically the encyclopedia of the league, right,

865
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: So he said in the seventies, the Steel Curtain had

866
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: had like four takeaways in a row, and when he

867
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: was on staff, I think it was either I think

868
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: it must have been in New Orleans or in Tennessee

869
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: on with his father, but excuse me, it wasn't Tennessee.

870
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Then it was Houston the Oilers. Yeah, thinking the same

871
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: franchise anyway, But he said he remembers saying like, hey,

872
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: we should probably not throw it because they've had four

873
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: interceptions in a row, like to open the game against them.

874
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: But again, like this is Steelers. I get they were dominating, right, yeah,

875
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: but again, in at least half of the Rams games

876
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: this year, they will have taken away the opponents the

877
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: football from the opponent's opening for first possession. I mean,

878
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: ridiculous fumbles, picks, what have you. Yeah, so be it

879
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: being an opportunistic on defense special I don't care when

880
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: they come. Yeah, I don't care when the takeaways happens

881
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: a long as long as they happen. When I think picks,

882
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I think alec Ogletree picking off passes from short distances

883
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: which are almost impossible. I mean that's like you know

884
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: what a jugs machine is, right, yes, like a pitching machine. Yeah,

885
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: it comes out that's being five yards away from something

886
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: that's traveling like ninety miles an hour, which is something that,

887
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: which is why I have never tried a jugs machine

888
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: and I don't think I ever will. Yeah, knocking it

889
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: down is one thing. Catching it is almost impossible, so

890
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: receivers don't do that. To see him do that is amazing.

891
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joiner is the second guy that comes to mind,

892
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: because the guy is a hitting machine and early if

893
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: you're not ready for Remember in the NFL, today's NFL,

894
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't get to hit and practice, so you're not

895
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: ready for that level of violence that early. It's a

896
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: really good point. Yeah, he comes downhill and boom. I

897
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: mean the ball's out. I mean sometimes you want to

898
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: ease into contact. Well, this guy's flying into contact, the

899
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: ball comes out. So just being ready to get the

900
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: ball out is one and then recovering is something else.

901
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: So this defense is opportunistic. They believe they're going to

902
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: get the takeaway. You can see it in their pursuit

903
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: to the football. They are absolutely tremendous. So I don't

904
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: know if that's a stat It should be maybe after

905
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: this year, After this year it will be, but I

906
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: think it will be after this year. First possession, second possession.

907
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: As long as you take it away, everything's good. Yeah,

908
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: it is. And it just was funny this week that

909
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: Corey Littleton was the one who was able to do that,

910
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: especially because he was coming in on a spot start. Now,

911
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: this is actually one of these things that because we're

912
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: recording on Tuesday, we're not we don't really have have

913
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: enough information on Mark Barron to really know what that

914
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: issue is, whether or not he might be able to

915
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: play against the forty nine ers. Even if he is

916
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: able to, I doubt that he will, but he had

917
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: an achilles issue that sort of flare it up early

918
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: in the morning against Tennessee. And now you gotta remember,

919
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean Rams were playing that game seven eight Yeah, wait, no,

920
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: ten am body clock time, So basically you're getting up

921
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: at around seven thirty eight, right, so seven thirty that's

922
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: five thirty LA time. The weather's cold and everything. Things

923
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: just aren't quite right. And that's what mcvass said happened

924
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: with Mark Barron. So we'll figure out more about whatever

925
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: Mark Barron's injury status is later on in the week,

926
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: but just with Corey Littleton to be able to come in,

927
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: and we know he's gotten these practice rems, but to

928
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: come in the way he did and to make an

929
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: impact play on that first possession. That was huge. Yeah,

930
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: they really like him. You may actually gain some op

931
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: against the run with him in there. Oh yeah, the

932
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: guy could absolutely bring it. He's dynamic. They loved him

933
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: coming out. They thought he might be a little wiry,

934
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: little skinny coming out of Washington, and he's really filled

935
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: into that frame of his So I think he's gonna

936
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: get nothing but better. The thing I like about him,

937
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: like I said, he's unafraid to stick his nose in there.

938
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: He will hit you. He's great on special teams, and

939
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: he's also he's raising his football IQ to see where

940
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: he lines up and how he lines up and how

941
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: he's getting guys lined up in front. He's still asking

942
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: for direction sometimes from the middle linebacker from Ogle Street,

943
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: Hey where am I going? Who do I cover X,

944
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Y and Z? But for the most part, the guys

945
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: already made football player. He's very athletic. I think you

946
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: can see the way he plays and how he's getting

947
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: better and when he's in there on defense, and again

948
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: those the practice reps he's been getting because Mark Barron

949
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: has been sitting out practices and different things like that.

950
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: That helps him on Sunday because It helped him against

951
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Seattle when he had to come in after Mark Barren

952
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: played only three plays and then making a spot start

953
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: basically after a surprise happens in the morning and either

954
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: the starter can't go, well, that's a pretty big deal

955
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: that you are able to get your first pick on

956
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: the second player from scrimmage. Then he's able to get

957
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: a sack later and that really forces a field goal

958
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: because the Titans had been moving and they were in

959
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: the red zone. I would bet once you move into

960
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: the postseason, I bet he becomes more of a pass

961
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: restaurat than you know right now, really, because he's that athletic. Interesting, Yeah,

962
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's good actually backing up from the quarterback.

963
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: In pass coverage. He can cover people. You see, he

964
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: can take the ball away and he's good and run defense.

965
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: But going towards the quarterback, I think we have we

966
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: haven't even scratched the surface. Probably you start to send

967
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: him on blitzes and he's one on one with a

968
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: running back. Depending on who that guy is, either you're

969
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: getting run over or run around. Yeah, and he's athletic

970
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: enough and wiry enough to get his hands on the

971
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: quarterback and at least disrupt, if not get the sack.

972
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: They've had Corey Littleton in there in certain in certain

973
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: times basically kind of creating a couple packages for him,

974
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, where he has come off the edge a

975
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: little bit, where he's also been sort of lined up

976
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: also as an inside backer. So maybe that's some thing

977
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: that I think they've done a little bit against teams

978
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: that run it very well. I recall them doing that

979
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia, I believe. Yeah, so that's something that again

980
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: could be a factor going forward. The three guys, and

981
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: I hope Mark Baron is healthy, and if you have

982
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: to go regularly, like if this were a meaningful game,

983
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: an all important game against San Francisco and they actually

984
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: have a fullback and can go twenty one personnel, that's

985
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: when I'd like to see and would you would see

986
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: all three guys out there. Yeah, I mean, that's that's

987
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good group, right. They can all run, They're

988
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: they're all pretty good run stuffers. I mean, that's a

989
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: pretty good trio. But at some point in the near future,

990
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: I would bet that you're going to see a lot

991
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: more of him going towards the quarterback and obvious passing

992
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: situations all right, Well, let's talk about these playoff scenarios

993
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: because now we can go. Man, my level of math

994
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: is not that high. Mine is not really crazy. But basically,

995
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: so I did get an email, and that's why I'm

996
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: going to pull out my phone right now. And that

997
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: shows all of the different scenarios that can happen, because

998
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: there are a lot of different possibilities based on Minnesota, Chicago,

999
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Ram San Francisco, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Atlanta, Seattle, Arizona. Okay,

1000
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, are you locked into the

1001
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: third seed? You are not locked. You are not locked

1002
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: into the third, but you can you cannot improve your

1003
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: position with a win, correct, Okay, that makes that That's

1004
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: the best way I can explain it, right, And so

1005
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: that to me is why I almost think it's just

1006
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: more valuable to just rest your starters. Okay, because basically,

1007
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: if you win, you're in a situation where you're more

1008
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: likely to face Seattle or Atlanta than anybody else. But

1009
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: if you win, if you win, if you lose, if

1010
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: your right, then you're gonna you could play Carolina, New Orleans,

1011
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta or Seattle. Wow, Okay, it behooves you to win

1012
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: it behooves you to win. Yeah, it does, and that's

1013
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: every week. Okay, different, right, Okay, it does behoove you

1014
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: to win. But again you're You're still there. If I'm

1015
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: looking at this correctly, and because there are so many

1016
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: of these things and I'm looking at them, I'm not sure,

1017
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: but I do believe that there's a possibility that you

1018
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: could win and then you could still get jumped by Carolina. Yeah, right,

1019
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota has to lose. So again, if that happens, it happens,

1020
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: and I guess it does behoove you to win. But

1021
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: at the same time, like it's just yeah to me,

1022
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just almost feel like you,

1023
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I've had fun with this. You know,

1024
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: would you rather avoid Julio Jones or Cam Newton? And

1025
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: at this point it doesn't matter. They're all good, right, Yeah,

1026
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: they all can beat you and vice versus rum opponent great,

1027
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: so be it. It It doesn't matter. Yeah. Um, but I

1028
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: said this a long time ago, when Cam Newton came

1029
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: out of Arizona or Auburn and watching him grow and

1030
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: mature in the National Football League, just his ability and

1031
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: how he plays against the Rams defense, Yeah, that's probably

1032
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: the one guy if I could pick that I would

1033
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: rather avoid in the postseason. You know, so as I'm

1034
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: looking at this, what I kind of didn't realize is

1035
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: that Carolina will not be able to jump the Rams

1036
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: if the Rams win. And if Carolina wins, that kind

1037
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: of thought that they would, but apparently, like looking at this,

1038
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: that's not the case. Math Man, Yeah, yeah, it is funny,

1039
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: math but it's this is what I'm looking at is

1040
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: coming from the league. So that's how I know I'm

1041
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: right about it. Right, So in that way, yeah, I

1042
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: guess it really does behoove you to win because if

1043
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: you win, you are pretty much locked into that number

1044
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: three seed. And this is funny when when you give

1045
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: out those scenarios and you throw out Seattle, people are actually, oh,

1046
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: you can play Seattle again, and they're relieved. Why I

1047
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: remember you're one and one against them. Yeah yeah, and

1048
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: they beat you at home. They did beat you at home, Okay,

1049
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: forty two to seven. I get it, And that was

1050
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: not that long ago. You know what I'm talking about,

1051
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: like a revenge game. Yeah, if anybody probably knows how

1052
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: to play revenge games, well I think it would be

1053
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: that because Russell Wilson was still alive. Ye fear Seattle. Yeah,

1054
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't care what you did to them. They're still good, right, Yeah,

1055
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: So either way, Look, opponent doesn't matter. If this team

1056
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: is firing on all cylinders, like, they still have to

1057
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: play you as well. They do. And you know, you

1058
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: could be facing you could be facing Carolina if you lose.

1059
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: You could be facing New Orleans if you fall. And

1060
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: there's also the possibility of Atlanta apparently. But again it's

1061
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: just to me. I don't know. I just feel like

1062
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: it's probably worth it to get those starters some rest. Well. Yeah,

1063
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean despite the fact that if you win, you're

1064
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: you're likely locked into that number. No one is good

1065
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: enough to call their shot against. I want to play

1066
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: this team. Maybe maybe in the NBA, yes, not in

1067
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: the NFL where anything could happen, right. I bet the

1068
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: same people were shocked that last week was a game

1069
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: they should just mow down Tennessee. Well, this is the NFL.

1070
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: I kind of thought that they should have mowed down

1071
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee head Well, the other team gets paid too, they

1072
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: do get picked the work, yeah, and they work hard,

1073
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: and Tennessee especially they have good players. They have Marcus Mariota,

1074
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: who is a good young quarterback. They have a good defense.

1075
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: They got a really good defensive coordinator, so it's not

1076
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: a surprise that. And they have a really good return

1077
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: or two and Dorry Jackson, like it's not a surprise

1078
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: three straight and they still have a shot for the postseason. Yes, yeah,

1079
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: they're not bad, right, Yeah, if they beat Jacksonville, they'll

1080
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: they'll be in. So you're right, they're not a bad

1081
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: football team. It's not like you know you're going to

1082
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: play then fifteen Browns. It's it's different. Yeah, absolutely, So, Look,

1083
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: opponent doesn't matter. But um, I still think keeping Jared Goff,

1084
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, x Y and Z, your star players, your

1085
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys, keeping them healthy far outweighs picking your opponent.

1086
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: I really do. Because yeah, it's like you were saying earlier.

1087
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, the Rams just have bigger fish to fry

1088
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: than this game. Yes, you know, and despite the fact

1089
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Garoppolo is playing well, and I understand the

1090
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: fact that, like, look, nobody really wants to pay to

1091
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: come see backups like that. I understand that, But this

1092
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: team wants to win the Super Bowl, and you have

1093
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do that because you've punched your ticket

1094
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: to the tournament already, right, You're not going to be

1095
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: able to you know, nothing is guaranteed beyond tomorrow in

1096
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs, right. The only thing you've guaranteed yourself is

1097
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: a home playoff game. Right, So no matter who your

1098
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: opponent is, you're just you're you're going to be in

1099
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 1: right now, the Rams have actually something to play for,

1100
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: so to speak. You just illustrated that, right, But from

1101
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: a San Francisco perspective, what is the point of playing garoppolo?

1102
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: You know he's your guy, keep your forward momentum. I guess, okay,

1103
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: but you know he's your guy. He's played well. You've

1104
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: been better because of him. I think you've you finally

1105
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: started winning time of possession. Your first downs are up,

1106
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: you're on the field longer. Your defense, as a consequence,

1107
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: is playing better. Right, Your special teams because of the

1108
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: esprit de corps is playing better. So obviously he's as

1109
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: good as advertised. Why play him on the road in

1110
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: the coliseum the last game of the year, in a

1111
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: game that doesn't matter. Does six wins matter? I think

1112
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: six wins is better than five, one better than five. Actually,

1113
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: if you lose it, it's actually better for draft position, absolutely, So,

1114
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no guarantee Garoppolo starts and plays the game.

1115
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: It's an interesting point. I mean, I guess just from

1116
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: their perspective, and obviously we're not there and I'm not there,

1117
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: so I don't know, but it just seems like because

1118
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: of the forward momentum that they have, and momentum is

1119
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: like one of these words that we use in sports

1120
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that technically by definition, but I

1121
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know. You have a real positive feeling about this

1122
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: team right now if you're them, right, you know, Yeah,

1123
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Carlos kind of jokingly saying, oh, actually we're going to

1124
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. They have not lost since Jimmy Garoppolo

1125
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: took over a quarterback. Yeah, you know, spotty points against Jackson,

1126
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: Right's to me, that's it, right, when you beat them

1127
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: up like that. Yeah, Garoppolo's my guy. We're better. That's it. CJ. Beathard,

1128
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: it's your game, That's what I would say. Why even

1129
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: risk it? Yeah, I guess. I mean, but even if

1130
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo suffers an injury, you know, you do have

1131
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: the entire off season in order. Okay, what if it's

1132
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: a twelve month injury. What if it's Timmy Bridgewater all

1133
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: over again? Right, yeah, I mean anything could happened, that's true.

1134
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: So and even if you do, let's let's say the

1135
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: Rams and we don't know, I mean, the Rams could

1136
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: play everybody, yeah, if they wanted to. It's true. But

1137
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: even if you're playing a shorthanded Rams squad, you're playing

1138
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: against Sean Mannion, what does that win do for you?

1139
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: If you're San Francisco, if you're Jimmy Garoppolo, Yeah, we

1140
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: beat the Rams at the end of the year, but

1141
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: they didn't play anybody, So what moment? But win? I

1142
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: don't know. You want you want to win these games.

1143
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: You want to win every game you can. Very true.

1144
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I take every victory I can. But

1145
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: you have to be smart, right And yeah, I just

1146
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: the way I see it, it's just okay, even if

1147
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: you are even if you're in a situ suation where

1148
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: you dropped to the number four seeding, you end up

1149
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: having to play New Orleans or Carolina. Yeah, Rams dropped

1150
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and they really needed this one. Then it's

1151
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: Garoppolo goth let's go Yeah. Yeah, but now, come on,

1152
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: you wrapped it up. It's it's it's yeah, you do

1153
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: have just bigger fish to fry. But I think knowing

1154
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: that if you win, you are almost you're pretty much

1155
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: locked in at the number three seed, that that kind

1156
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: of does make a bit of a difference. Um and yeah,

1157
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: and fancy you know you want to be the highest

1158
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: seed because that means that, you know, should one of

1159
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: the Tomb Hope home playoff too divisional game hosts loose,

1160
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that the teams that have

1161
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: a buy should one of them lose then and you're

1162
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: still winning, then you're the highest seed. But I think

1163
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: might be your point to that is, hey, that you're

1164
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: only guaranteed tomorrow, so you cannot look like two games

1165
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: fast and thing. Oh well, if you know, then we can.

1166
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. And number two, actually the

1167
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: Rams will played better on the road it then home

1168
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: this year. I mean if we just look at it

1169
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: like they have, I mean it's hard to disprove it. Yeah,

1170
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: they you know they're there, They're eight and winning games

1171
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: away from the Los Angeles Memorial Call seem affiliate at home.

1172
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Washington at home, I mean Washington was rolling at the time. Yeah,

1173
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: Washington was rolling out and the only other game he

1174
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: lost was at Minnesota, and Minnesota also was rolling at

1175
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: that time, and there's that was just a game where

1176
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: you just couldn't really get anything going. Yeah, so I

1177
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: gave them credit. That defense was good. That Yes, No,

1178
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: that defense is great. It's been it's been great all year,

1179
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: and they were great on Saturday when they shut out

1180
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: the Packers. So again, that's just it's fun to talk

1181
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: about that this year, you know, true thinking about what

1182
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: we were talking about a year ago. Draft. Yeah, right

1183
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: now we're talking. Yes, Oh, let's not do that. Yeah, exactly,

1184
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: let's exercise that. The culture is different now the cultures

1185
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: is wearing a jacket. That's how different wearing a jacket

1186
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: last will Yeah, I'm just wearing a jacket because we

1187
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: shot rams report and when I didn't last year. Now,

1188
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: this is more like going to a party. It is

1189
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: anyway way more like to a party. Um, So, before

1190
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: we get out of here, how is your Christmas? Great? Fun? Yeah,

1191
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: they're still there. They're still up my house. They won't leave.

1192
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I love my family. Well, it's it's like twelve forty

1193
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: On December twenty six, I feel like it's time for

1194
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: them to go. No, they can stay as long as

1195
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: they want. Yeah, it's my family. I'm saying that to

1196
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: you publicly now when we're off air. Oh, time to

1197
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: go home. I'm kidding. No, it was great yourself that

1198
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: it was fun. Um. I mean I didn't really do

1199
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: much of anything. I was just kind of in the

1200
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: apartment watching football and basketball by yourself. Yeah, you could

1201
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: have come over, man, had more than enough food. That's

1202
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: really okay, you should have come over. Man. We had fun.

1203
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: The kids had fun. Well, I was up. I was

1204
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: up the night before. We were celebrating the division change. Okay, yeah, hell,

1205
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: well fun yeah, hell, it's nice to be young and

1206
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, well I didn't really go out out, but

1207
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: I was with some some of my colleague good and

1208
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: we had a nice time. How did it feel It

1209
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: feel good? Good? That's cool. Yeah, it feels good to

1210
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: cover a division champion. I can't wait until that gets old. Yeah. Yeah,

1211
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: another had Oh man, I don't think it's gonna be

1212
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I can't wait till that gets red. All right, everybody, So,

1213
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into this edition of

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00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Between the Horns for DeMarco far I'm Miles Simmons. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time.