Speaker 1: Now, the Shotgun Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of setup work that we have to do
Speaker 1: in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a
Speaker 1: shotgun start.
Speaker 2: Here we go, alright, alright, alrighte.
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Speaker 2: Dart your Welcome to a special bonus episode of The
Speaker 2: Shotgun Start. We are going to look back at the
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen Open Championship won by Jordan Speeth before his
Speaker 2: uh just a guy era maybe as it's come to
Speaker 2: be known on this podcast. Joseph Lemania and I jumped
Speaker 2: down on the horn this week for an extra hour
Speaker 2: hour plus after watching the four hour broadcast back and
Speaker 2: went deep on what was a fairly boring major and
Speaker 2: then became one of the most exciting final hour two
Speaker 2: hours to a finish to a major that we've seen
Speaker 2: in recent decades. So it's fun to dive in with
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Speaker 2: week chronicling the Open Championship and of course covering it
Speaker 2: here on the Shotgun Start. Now, let's get to Joseph
Speaker 2: and this look back at the twenty seventeen Open Championship
Speaker 2: grudings and welcome to a special edition of the SGS
Speaker 2: rewatching the major championship series. Joseph and I here talking
Speaker 2: about the twenty seventeen Open Championship from Royal Birkdale, Well,
Speaker 2: where we will be returning for the first time next
Speaker 2: week for the twenty twenty six Open Championship. We have
Speaker 2: done this this year for the nineteen eighty six Masters
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six US Open at Shinnecott Kills. Those were
Speaker 2: Beef Your Boys. Joseph and I have rewatched the full
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen a much more modern major than the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty six editions we talked about earlier with Kevin van
Speaker 2: Volkenberg and Andy, but so hopefully this won't be a
Speaker 2: Beef Your Beef You're a podcast episode. But we did
Speaker 2: get through the full four hour, thirty eight minute I
Speaker 2: believe broadcast on YouTube. It is there available to watch.
Speaker 2: This major, of course, was won by Jordan Speeth. That's
Speaker 2: been distilled down to, you know, the thirteenth drop on
Speaker 2: the driving range and the go get that. We will
Speaker 2: go through it and much more detailed than that. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure you need to watch the four hours and
Speaker 2: thirty eight minutes, but there were a lot of more
Speaker 2: odds and ends and amusements. Correct, Joseph, Yeah, as I
Speaker 2: was watching it. I was excited knowing that you were
Speaker 2: watching it simultaneously, the stuff you were picking up on
Speaker 2: some of the amusements on your end. So I'm pretty
Speaker 2: excited to see what notes you have.
Speaker 3: We have some awards planned, Worst Dressed, Favorite Commentary. I
Speaker 3: feel like that category there was plenty to choose from,
Speaker 3: given the World Feed in some of the commentary that
Speaker 3: I was hearing. But I'm really excited to get into it.
Speaker 2: This is the World Feed, this four hours and thirty
Speaker 2: eight minute video. It is not NBC, it is not
Speaker 2: Golf Channel. This was only the second year of Golf
Speaker 2: Channel having a major and NBC being on the Open Championship.
Speaker 2: I think they debuted it with truon in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: so kind of getting their groove over there at NBC
Speaker 2: if they had lost the US Open to Fox. But
Speaker 2: this is not the video that's on YouTube. I did
Speaker 2: find some stuff in my old notes where Johnny Miller
Speaker 2: on the call called it the greatest finish he's ever
Speaker 2: seen in a major championship, with Speeth going nuts after
Speaker 2: the whole adventure at thirteen, which I quite frankly forgot about.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can get into that in a minute. How
Speaker 2: nuts he went. I knew there was the near hold
Speaker 2: and wan and the go get that, but I didn't
Speaker 2: realize how crazy he went after the adventure at thirteen.
Speaker 2: So this is not Johnny Miller NBC commentary. It is
Speaker 2: the world feed, which is good at times, stinks at others.
Speaker 2: I'll call it out right now. Their coverage of thirteen,
Speaker 2: after we take twenty minutes to figure out where he's
Speaker 2: going to drop on the driving range is a disgrace,
Speaker 2: is a total disgrace. And he finally gets ready to
Speaker 2: hit and Mikey and Michael Greller is going to the
Speaker 2: top of the dude and their shouting They've got MIC's there.
Speaker 2: You could hear it. I just need a round number
Speaker 2: from here, go to that and give you the line
Speaker 2: there and then like they're still going through the process,
Speaker 2: but that's more interesting, stay with the process. Instead, they
Speaker 2: go to Rory, it's miles out of it, hit your
Speaker 2: drive off eighteen and rapa Cabrera Bao approach shot. After
Speaker 2: spending twenty minutes sorting with this drive is where this
Speaker 2: drop's going to be, And they get to the very
Speaker 2: critical moments of the final yardage, the final club choice,
Speaker 2: the final like line and final details, and they're showing
Speaker 2: Rafaka Barabeo and they come back to it speeds over
Speaker 2: the ball like in his backsway, they lose the ball.
Speaker 2: They never see the ball in the sky in the air,
Speaker 2: nor do they see it land. So they go to
Speaker 2: this drone shot when the ball goes off the club
Speaker 2: and it's all clouds, there's nothing, no, absolutely hopeless of
Speaker 2: seeing the ball in the air. Then it lands on
Speaker 2: the ground and they don't have it. They don't pick
Speaker 2: it up on the ground. So this wasn't where I
Speaker 2: plan to go off the top. Yeah, what while we're
Speaker 2: talking about the sky feed, I just that jumped out
Speaker 2: to me. At the end. They spend so much time
Speaker 2: chronicling the ruling and where he's going to drop, and
Speaker 2: then they like just leave it at the final calculations
Speaker 2: and then can't pick up the shot in the air
Speaker 2: or when it lands. That was a disgrace. Otherwise it's
Speaker 2: a fine broadcast.
Speaker 3: I promise we'll get to the action. I didn't know
Speaker 3: we were going to start with sky complaints. But my god,
Speaker 3: the homer ism. When Matthew Southgate makes a putt, you
Speaker 3: think like the commentator's kid just came home with straight
Speaker 3: a's on their report card. They're throwing a party.
Speaker 1: In the booth.
Speaker 2: Matthew Southgate, who is back. He's a member the boy
Speaker 2: from whatever they call it, the Essex and Essex something
Speaker 2: and the local and he's back. He just qualified again.
Speaker 2: He'll be at Birkdale again in twenty twenty six. The
Speaker 2: big big lad.
Speaker 3: I mean, when Speed makes a super long putt, it's
Speaker 3: a pretty muted response generally even on the back nine.
Speaker 3: But when Matthew Southgate makes when you think there's a party.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We're just going to keep the
Speaker 2: team going. You've never heard a broadcast try to will
Speaker 2: how Ton Lee into contution more than the four hours
Speaker 2: of this broadcast suggesting how Ton Lee was on the
Speaker 2: precipice of winning this open shit. It was preposterous, Like
Speaker 2: give it up, stop with the how Tom Lee's story.
Speaker 2: Just nothing gets you can't win. But god, they kept
Speaker 2: to hold it on too. It was on the range.
Speaker 2: You just got a chance. How much how To Lee
Speaker 2: coverage did we need? I couldn't believe it. Willing tried
Speaker 2: to will him the contention or still in it unbelievably
Speaker 2: finished like six shots out of the base. All right, Uh,
Speaker 2: you wanted to lay out a little bit like what
Speaker 2: the golf world was like coming into this twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Obviously it wasn't that long ago, but there are some
Speaker 2: things that have changed dramatically. Obviously, Jordan Speeth hasn't won
Speaker 2: a major championship. There were maybe some hints and signs
Speaker 2: in the first thirteen holes of why that might come
Speaker 2: to be. But what was the golf world like coming
Speaker 2: into this Open Championship? Then just the third of four majors?
Speaker 2: We still would have the twenty seventeen PGA to come
Speaker 2: at Quail Hollow, where Justin Thomas would win. But prior
Speaker 2: to this, it was Sergio at the Masters and Brooksy
Speaker 2: at Aaron Hills, and that was our majors year. What
Speaker 2: was the golf world like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm concerned about the length of this pod spiraling
Speaker 3: out of control.
Speaker 2: So I'll be like, no, no, I'm not worried about
Speaker 2: length as long as is good.
Speaker 3: Okay. I had some pre tournament notes, including some writing
Speaker 3: I came across from Brendan Pooraf and some predictions for
Speaker 3: the tournament. So I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2: This is like, I have fifteen years of stuff on
Speaker 2: the record and you're going to find bad Is this
Speaker 2: what you're trying to throw bad takes of your young pop?
Speaker 2: I'm sure you got bad ones going Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: No, No, they're actually not bad. I just I honestly
Speaker 3: found them. They're amusing for different reasons. All Right, it's
Speaker 3: a pretty open tournament, and that's not actually something that
Speaker 3: you wrote about. And part of why I wanted to
Speaker 3: do a little bit of setting the scene was because
Speaker 3: I mean, at this period of time, you're covering golf
Speaker 3: full time. I wasn't. I was on the outside looking in,
Speaker 3: So I was pretty interested in what you remember about
Speaker 3: going into that championship at all. You were not on
Speaker 3: the grounds, correct.
Speaker 2: No, No, definitely not. What I would say is if
Speaker 2: you talk about the open thing, maybe this isn't a
Speaker 2: good way to make things shorter for this pod. Is
Speaker 2: we went from like is there a Big three Big
Speaker 2: four era? Right with Rory and Speath and Jason Day,
Speaker 2: And then there was a moment where Ricky was involved
Speaker 2: and then Dustin joined it is like Big three or
Speaker 2: Big four and that was it. Those were the dogs,
Speaker 2: those were the lead dogs. And then that sort of
Speaker 2: dissipated Jason Day had his issues, speed receded Rory like
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done at majors consistently. And I guess
Speaker 2: maybe that's where the more open sense came from, where
Speaker 2: there wasn't that that three or four clear stars and
Speaker 2: I think JT this was like the year of JT,
Speaker 2: even before he'd won the PGA, ended up winning I
Speaker 2: think five or six times if I'm not mistaken. So
Speaker 2: what was it like other than being open?
Speaker 3: It's interesting that you mentioned that because I believe in
Speaker 3: his pre tournament press conference maybe it was his post
Speaker 3: I think it was the pre tournament press conference, Jordan
Speaker 3: speF talks about how we're probably never going to see
Speaker 3: a reign of dominance like Tigers again, which is just
Speaker 3: kind of interesting that this is where we see not
Speaker 3: the last gasp of speed. I think that's putting it
Speaker 3: a little harshly, but it's the last major championship that
Speaker 3: he's won, you know, seems unlikely that he's going to
Speaker 3: win one again. So kind of interesting that to listen
Speaker 3: to him talk about that that how hard it is
Speaker 3: to dominate the game for an extended period of time.
Speaker 3: But Rory's dealing with his rib injury for the front
Speaker 3: half of this year. Oh yeah, so he comes in in,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of shaky form. It's pretty fascinating. One
Speaker 3: of the notes I have they ask him about his
Speaker 3: price coming into the tournament. I don't know how many
Speaker 3: times a player has been asked about their odds at
Speaker 3: their pre tournament press conference, but they say to Rory, like,
Speaker 3: you're twenty to one this week? Does that seem about right?
Speaker 3: And Rory's like, well, I'd probably bet on me at
Speaker 3: twenty to one, but it seems about right given my form.
Speaker 2: It's a number. I wonder when the last time he
Speaker 2: was I mean, that's a big number for him.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. When the last time Rory would
Speaker 3: be twenty to one?
Speaker 2: I think the last five six years, I would guess
Speaker 2: least maybe going back. I just about that, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: DJ's the favorite, Speef is closely behind. John Rahm is
Speaker 3: kind of bursting onto the scene, has just won the Open.
Speaker 3: Stuart Dollar is kind of one of the favorites. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I think as I was reflecting on this part of
Speaker 3: my takeaway, and I don't I don't mean to diminish
Speaker 3: Jordan's Speed's win, But like, was this a little bit
Speaker 3: of a stretch where we didn't have like a super
Speaker 3: dominant the top end wasn't as strong as you know.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's been other times in the past when like
Speaker 3: Jason Day was playing really well, and we've had years
Speaker 3: where obviously the last few where Scott he's playing super well,
Speaker 3: where that top player in the world or that standard
Speaker 3: that's being set by the top two or three guys
Speaker 3: is really strong. This might have been an area where
Speaker 3: it wasn't as strong. I think some evidence for that
Speaker 3: Speef you know, really struggling, which we'll talk about, I
Speaker 3: mean being able to get it done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're sitting here watching this video for the
Speaker 2: first two and a half hours, like where are the
Speaker 2: where are the alphas of this game? Just like this
Speaker 2: is off, Like Coochure is just fine but kind of
Speaker 2: puttering along. You ended up shooting sixty nine. I think, yes,
Speaker 2: speed was a gazat like Brooks and Brory oft in shape.
Speaker 2: Brooks you know, is still coming into it, had just
Speaker 2: won its first major and like if they're in shape,
Speaker 2: they're just taking that by the scruff of the neck.
Speaker 2: To use a sort of a European phrase, there, and
Speaker 2: and it was just, yeah, it was completely there to
Speaker 2: be taken, certainly on Sunday, this Sunday final round watch,
Speaker 2: but there wasn't that like dominate like as Scotty just
Speaker 2: keeping it in the fairway on the you know, hidden
Speaker 2: fairways and greens guy out there ahead of them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and maybe it's a slightly disrespectful to Scotty,
Speaker 3: but it was kind of making me think that, you know,
Speaker 3: we might have a similar sort of narrative coming into
Speaker 3: this tournament at Birkdale, where Scotty's still that the clear
Speaker 3: number one and has a price way shorter than anybody
Speaker 3: did coming into this one. But it does feel a
Speaker 3: little more open than it has over the last couple
Speaker 3: of years when Scotty was playing super super good golf.
Speaker 3: I had a couple amusements from the pre tournament press
Speaker 3: conferences and then I wanted to quickly get to your
Speaker 3: predictions for the tournament. But I thought you might, I
Speaker 3: thought you might be amused by the questions that Martin
Speaker 3: Slumbers was posed during his press conference. Just he gets
Speaker 3: put through a gauntlet of questions.
Speaker 2: The first one, what were they asking about?
Speaker 3: Well, the RNA is is nothing super like nothing's really
Speaker 3: that controversial or provocative. There's like the opening comments, somebody
Speaker 3: from the RNA there maybe throw Hi a softball or something.
Speaker 3: The first question he gets is about anchoring, and Bernard
Speaker 3: Lang got mcaren first.
Speaker 2: Question, what a what a quaint time with not Saudi's
Speaker 2: or live but anchoring. That's that's great.
Speaker 3: The third question is about how golf is the only
Speaker 3: Olympic sport to this reporter's knowledge where participants are allowed
Speaker 3: to smoke during competition, and they wonder what kind of
Speaker 3: message it sends that people love to focus on j
Speaker 3: Menez his big cigar. Does Martin have a view on that?
Speaker 3: But the next question is about the rollback asked about
Speaker 3: security measures at the tournament, then drug testing, than if
Speaker 3: Bryson's putter is an alignment aid like TV coverage, a
Speaker 3: follow up question about smoking. It's just he gets put
Speaker 3: through a gauntlet of questions. There's not like what's your
Speaker 3: favorite hole out here? Just gets put through the ringer
Speaker 3: and the other amusement I have relative to drug testing.
Speaker 3: I thought, I don't know that you would remember this
Speaker 3: when I certainly didn't. You know who else is asked
Speaker 3: about drug testing? Justin Johnson Okay, okay. The question is
Speaker 3: I would wonder if you would give us your opinion
Speaker 3: on the PGA tour, the decision to allegedly introduce blood
Speaker 3: testing for doping control next year onwards and DJ I
Speaker 3: don't care. They can do whatever they have to. It's
Speaker 3: nothing that concerns me, that's for sure. So interesting a
Speaker 3: couple of years after maybe an alleged drug suspension.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm not aware of that. Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 2: all right. That's such a random assortment of questions. Smokey
Speaker 2: at the Olympics, roll back an great Okay.
Speaker 3: Would you like to get to your prediction? There's three
Speaker 3: things I'm not actually, I'm not embarrassing you here. But
Speaker 3: do you do you want to go? You? Who did you?
Speaker 3: Who did you pick to win? We'll start there. I
Speaker 3: don't have a favorite character of.
Speaker 2: Yours twenty seventeen. I have no idea who did I pick?
Speaker 3: You picked Sergio, your guy Sergio. This is when you're
Speaker 3: writing for SB Nation and then pick Spief is like
Speaker 3: one of the prompts that you are answering in this question.
Speaker 2: Okay, you just want travelers with the throw the club
Speaker 2: in the air, one right, hot jump out of the
Speaker 2: bonker hole, out from the bunker, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wrote the Speece having arguably the best ball
Speaker 3: striking season of anyone in the world, but you were
Speaker 3: worried about the narrow fairways. He'll make the Cup a
Speaker 3: finish out of contention around t twenty five, so I'm
Speaker 3: not coming after you. Just kind of interesting, then the
Speaker 3: narrow fairways. You know what, we'll talk about this. I'm
Speaker 3: sure as we get into it. The speed really does
Speaker 3: slap it around, kind of gets away with it.
Speaker 2: But crazy gets away with it enough for you. I mean,
Speaker 2: thirteen is really the only time he takes a really
Speaker 2: a total loss of a stroke or can't advance it
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Right, It's either he gets a good lie,
Speaker 2: it bounces off a fan back to a nice lie,
Speaker 2: or ends up on the right side. It's crazy, all right,
Speaker 2: go ahead, And then why.
Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to get to this. You are
Speaker 3: asked for a long shot and you say, I'm going
Speaker 3: with Matt Kucher at eighty to one. He has to
Speaker 3: get a major one of these years. No, And then
Speaker 3: you go into your explanation about how he played well
Speaker 3: at the Scottish and that eighty to one is good
Speaker 3: value for Cuture to potentially shuffle his sketchers across the
Speaker 3: eighteenth s cream and receive his claret joke, So, giving
Speaker 3: you your flowers, you threw out a long shot who
Speaker 3: did have the lead on the back nine on Sunday.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. There we go, And he did shuffle
Speaker 2: across the eighteen to get the silver medal or whatever.
Speaker 2: This runner up he's at the trophy ceremony, okay, ambling pod,
Speaker 2: good pick, there you go, There you go, than on it.
Speaker 2: Been doing this for a while, all right, all right,
Speaker 2: So that's what else do you I'm sure I have
Speaker 2: some bad takes and bad writing in there. I just
Speaker 2: I don't know what else do you have anything going
Speaker 2: into it? Twenty seventeen in.
Speaker 3: Terms of pre tournament coverage. I think that was basically
Speaker 3: the only only thing that came to mind when you
Speaker 3: reference Johnny Miller. And I don't know if this is
Speaker 3: if you have this in your notes, but I don't
Speaker 3: really remember this. But apparently, when Brandon Grace shoots sixty
Speaker 3: two on Saturday, Johnny Miller is not so subtle about
Speaker 3: how much easier the conditions were. When Grace shoots his
Speaker 3: sixty two than sure, you know, it's a break Johnny
Speaker 3: Miller's record. So I found that amusing and going back
Speaker 3: and reading stuff from the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously we watched just the file round
Speaker 2: like Grace was a big story. The conditions laid down
Speaker 2: and it wasn't you know it just he went out early,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, early Saturday, and maybe I'm wrong there.
Speaker 2: I thought he was on the early side of the
Speaker 2: third round and posted sixty two, and it was like
Speaker 2: we've kind of been waiting years and years, have been
Speaker 2: so many sixty threes and that sort of twenty two
Speaker 2: tens era and he finally breaks it. Of course, it
Speaker 2: is not the same on a par seventy, the same
Speaker 2: sort of you know, accomplishment that Meller is shooting sixty
Speaker 2: three on a Sunday of the US opening Open mot
Speaker 2: But yes, you could see him being frustrated with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that there were any other major like
Speaker 2: news items from I'm sure there were from this open
Speaker 2: before we get to Sunday, but Brandon Gray shooting sixty
Speaker 2: two was a big one before we get to this
Speaker 2: YouTube video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil doesn't play with a driver, He plays with
Speaker 3: two three irons and a sixty four degree wedge in
Speaker 3: a three wood. Those were like you know some of
Speaker 3: the adjustments to his equipment stats is.
Speaker 2: The Frankenwood era. Do you remember the Frank Yeahood, I.
Speaker 3: Think this was. I think this was the Frankenwood pH
Speaker 3: Frank maybe two three irons, one was a hot one,
Speaker 3: one was a regular one or something like that. So
Speaker 3: that's the that's all I have the returnament.
Speaker 2: Aside from the new major scoring record, this sets the
Speaker 2: record for the biggest crowds and you British open history
Speaker 2: in England, they're clear like cause St Andrews, I guess
Speaker 2: still eclipsed it two hundred and thirty five thousand, Am
Speaker 2: I wrong? You're squinting like that's miss? They go ahead.
Speaker 3: They talked about it breaking the attendance record. I did
Speaker 3: not know there was a qualifier that.
Speaker 2: I thought it was in England, but maybe it was
Speaker 2: the attendance record overall.
Speaker 3: I think it was the attendance record over all, at
Speaker 3: least at the time because spief in his when he
Speaker 3: when he receives the trophy on the eighteenth Green, thanks
Speaker 3: the crowd for breaking the attendance record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the guy before it said of England, and
Speaker 2: England thought, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You're probably right.
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal either way. It's been broken
Speaker 2: I think several times over, maybe not in England. Should
Speaker 2: we get to major takeaways over our chin thoughts you
Speaker 2: want to go with one of your first big ones.
Speaker 3: We've already been hitting on it, but I think it's
Speaker 3: worth starting here. I mean, how poorly speF plays shocking.
Speaker 3: I mean he's out of the gates, missing the fairway
Speaker 3: left and hitting his second shot into the crowd, making bogie.
Speaker 3: He three puts the fourth hole, so he makes three
Speaker 3: bogies in his first four and I mean he's just
Speaker 3: slapping it around.
Speaker 2: To be clear, he made four bogies total in the
Speaker 2: first three days, and then he makes four bogies on
Speaker 2: the front nine of this Sunday. And you're correct, slapping
Speaker 2: it around. It is not just like, oh, he's lost
Speaker 2: with the driver, like he's got a case of the
Speaker 2: lefts with the driver the right. It's both ways. It's
Speaker 2: wedges from the middle of the fairway for some ungodly
Speaker 2: reason are just being airmail tugged left. I have it
Speaker 2: in my notes and forget what hold that was like, Uh,
Speaker 2: maybe eight or nine somewhere in there. I'll get to it,
Speaker 2: but it was just all bad. Three putts nine, Like
Speaker 2: three putts nine is like a total inexcusable.
Speaker 3: Boat shocking nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, disastrous three put of nine, which I think pulls
Speaker 2: him level with Couture again, going to the back nine,
Speaker 2: they're essentially level. He starts with the he starts at
Speaker 2: ten under sorry, eleven to eight, eleven to eight, it's
Speaker 2: eleven underspeed eight under Couture, and after that it's kind
Speaker 2: of like could we It was sort of the opposite
Speaker 2: of Stenson, Phil. It was kind of a two hook
Speaker 2: man race. Despite the broadcast exhortations to make Hawton relevant,
Speaker 2: who shot sixty three? Hawtn did like credit to him,
Speaker 2: but he was still like always three shots to three
Speaker 2: shots behind the leaders as he sat in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: But it was the opposite. It was a two worse race.
Speaker 2: But guys just sort of puttering around. Now, Coucher wasn't bad.
Speaker 2: Speech was legit bad on the front nine, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, that's sort of lost to history, and maybe
Speaker 2: rightfully so, given the way he finished and given that
Speaker 2: he won the championship, but it's astonishing how just unprofessional.
Speaker 2: It almost looked he was the only player with three
Speaker 2: rounds in the sixties coming in. I remember that first
Speaker 2: hole well, I remember like it started with that awful,
Speaker 2: awful eye. I remember that really well, Like he hit
Speaker 2: it into like absolute jail, like just he got the
Speaker 2: worst line, and that was like the last time he
Speaker 2: really got penalized for a wayward drive in a real,
Speaker 2: real way, like a bad shot at the fourth said
Speaker 2: there quote he's feeling the nerves. He like immediately starts
Speaker 2: walking over and miss mishit on the par three.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He birdies five and then immediately hooks it left on six,
Speaker 2: and it's just like, it's just I think that was
Speaker 2: the wedgshot. That was a disaster. Just I were talking
Speaker 2: like one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 3: Yards, not six, not six.
Speaker 2: The drive was six.
Speaker 3: The drive was a drive six, he's a wooden six
Speaker 3: is a part five for the members, but a part
Speaker 3: four in the tournament. I think eight is where he
Speaker 3: hits a wedge long, the awful edge long, and he's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know where that even ended up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it hits a fan. He gets a
Speaker 2: good line. He's got like a nice that's sitting up
Speaker 2: and he can just kind of like chip it loft
Speaker 2: it down to the.
Speaker 3: Three is a bad wedge too, So I'm not sure
Speaker 3: which one you're referring.
Speaker 2: It's later. It would be eight three.
Speaker 3: He also goes over the back.
Speaker 2: He's bad. It's it's hard to keep track of. I
Speaker 2: like that they're cracking on him that he brings Michael
Speaker 2: in for only tappens. Quote what the commentary calls tappens,
Speaker 2: Like this is where he brings Grella in for Tappens
Speaker 2: and he misses it. Essentially it tappened on nine. So
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to believe how bad he is. And
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, his t shot on thirteen
Speaker 2: might be the last bad shot he hits for the
Speaker 2: entire day.
Speaker 3: He hits a really wayward drive on seventeen, that's true,
Speaker 3: but barb five and he gets away with it. But
Speaker 3: he goes way right on seventeen, hits a way, he
Speaker 3: goes way left on ten.
Speaker 2: But after thirty that it's crazy. We get like almost
Speaker 2: two and a half hours of Honestly, I think his
Speaker 2: good shots on the front I had the approach into nine,
Speaker 2: which he then three putted it so it didn't matter
Speaker 2: the driver at seven was like his only good driver
Speaker 2: and approach for Bertie, the birdie he made at five,
Speaker 2: and I think the there are three like legit good
Speaker 2: shots and everything else is sort of a recovery scramble
Speaker 2: or bad shot on the entire front nine and that
Speaker 2: continues to thirteen t shot. But then after he does
Speaker 2: all that stuff on the range, he doesn't really It's
Speaker 2: like four straight holes of nothing but good shots, which
Speaker 2: is hard to believe given we watched two and a
Speaker 2: half hours with nothing but drek me fair.
Speaker 3: I mean, Scotty kind of did something similar at Quail
Speaker 3: Hollo a couple of years ago and he won Front nine.
Speaker 3: He was awful then he turned it on, but this
Speaker 3: is like a different level of slapping it around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they called it very unspeedlike, which you know at
Speaker 2: the commentary, which think about it now, it's like this
Speaker 2: is the roller coaster we talk about with speed, except
Speaker 2: now we maybe don't get the heroics of the last
Speaker 2: five holes like we did. That was a that was
Speaker 2: a big one, is how For me, my big takeaway
Speaker 2: was how bad and boring this is a very boring
Speaker 2: watch until thirteen and what we talked about earlier, it's
Speaker 2: just like the big dogs letting them just whoever you
Speaker 2: would consider a big dog in the sport, either they're
Speaker 2: not present this day, or they're just letting the last
Speaker 2: group scuffle around behind and making not letting them making
Speaker 2: them pay in any way. And I don't know who
Speaker 2: you'd call it big dog. Rory Brooks was a one
Speaker 2: time major winner. Stenson was out ahead of him. If
Speaker 2: there was like a class top of the world player
Speaker 2: in form, uh, you know these guys were capable. You
Speaker 2: know you could have put the pressure on. You can't
Speaker 2: envision speak going nuclear thirteen through seventeen, but or fourteen
Speaker 2: through seventeen. So that was a big one. What else
Speaker 2: do you have? What was your second big takeaway?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it fits in naturally. Then Cuture, I
Speaker 3: actually think plays decently and maybe slightly better than you're
Speaker 3: giving them credit. You look a little bit dubious over there.
Speaker 2: But I watched this for four and a half hours.
Speaker 2: It took like two notes on Couture. I paid attention.
Speaker 3: My note isn't. My note is less that Couture was
Speaker 3: good and more that it is heart kind of heartbreaking
Speaker 3: to watch this whole scene. Oh and I remember it.
Speaker 2: Being heartbreaking yep, but yep.
Speaker 3: God, he carries himself really well throughout the day. He's
Speaker 3: like Smiley, He's handling it well. When Spieth is holding
Speaker 3: these putts near the end, Cuture just is kind of
Speaker 3: looking around in amazement. The drop on thirteen, which we
Speaker 3: need to get into, but Cuture handles that very well.
Speaker 3: And then the scene afterwards where they're sitting together after scorning.
Speaker 3: I hadn't. I completely forgot about that. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I ever remember watching that in real time or
Speaker 3: if I had turned the TV off back at that point.
Speaker 3: But man, going back and watching it, people should watching
Speaker 3: speF sit next to Couture and like talk through what
Speaker 3: happened on thirteen after he had just beaten him in
Speaker 3: Couture's just kind of sitting there and a little stunned
Speaker 3: after he's surprised by his family had.
Speaker 2: The lead didn't know they came over from America. He's
Speaker 2: like kind of as emotional as we see Couture right,
Speaker 2: who's typically dun man. He does like these guys are
Speaker 2: really complimentary, complimenting each other's drives and shots and all
Speaker 2: that throughout the day. But then spe starts going bananas
Speaker 2: and coachers like laughing while he's you know, he's on
Speaker 2: in two at thirteen, while Speeth is like taking it
Speaker 2: unplayable and not a not an easy chance at eagle,
Speaker 2: but a chance at eagle. It's a it's like looking
Speaker 2: like a three shot two shot, three shots swaying four shots.
Speaker 3: Swain who knows for birdie, for birdie, not eagle.
Speaker 2: He was on in two, he had he had an
Speaker 2: eagle thirteen Part four. I'm sorry, yeah, he was on it.
Speaker 2: Sorry he's he's on has the birdie pot? Sorry? Not yes?
Speaker 2: Has you look at breaking ahead to fifteen, there's only
Speaker 2: two par fives fifteen and seventeen par seventy, so has
Speaker 2: a good look at Bertie and thinking it's gonna be
Speaker 2: probably a two shot sway, maybe more. He finally gets
Speaker 2: to the level and he loses ground. When he goes
Speaker 2: after that, he loses ground going birdie par birdie on
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen sixteen, I think right, and he loses two shots.
Speaker 2: So he's kind of like shaking his head and laughing
Speaker 2: but clearly taking it hard. Do you have the asset
Speaker 2: of the scoring? They have these two love seats. These
Speaker 2: are not couches that would be a misnomber that would
Speaker 2: be given the RNA too much credit for the situation
Speaker 2: they set up in Scoring and they have these love
Speaker 2: seats and Speed, who's just ripped his heart out, Speeth
Speaker 2: who's just ripped out Coocher's heart, has to come sit
Speaker 2: next to him on this love seat and they're like
Speaker 2: wedged in together. Look at like and Coucher's six' four
Speaker 2: whatever he, is and they're like kind of hip to
Speaker 2: hip on this love. Seat and in this probably trailer,
Speaker 2: tenth there's nothing on the. Wall there's comically some orchids
Speaker 2: that were just probably plastic putting next to. Him it's
Speaker 2: those white walled At Alfie plant who will get to
Speaker 2: in a. Minute the Low am is, there and of
Speaker 2: course there's two love, seats and It's speak talking To
Speaker 2: cooch and they're, like are you going? Home and And
Speaker 2: coucher goes he points to THE rbc logo on his.
Speaker 2: Sleeve he's, LIKE i gotta go with these. Guys Canadian
Speaker 2: open was always a week after The open, then which
Speaker 2: seemed thrilled about given the. Circumstances and Then speed that
Speaker 2: you can narrate. This he talks them through what was going?
Speaker 2: On you didn't remember this at? All did? YOU i
Speaker 2: didn't either until Watching well What happened at.
Speaker 3: Thirteen it's interesting because the commentators they're kind of talking
Speaker 3: during some of. This you can't make out, everything but
Speaker 3: from Reading coacher's, lips he looks like he looks At
Speaker 3: speed and says something to the effect OF i would
Speaker 3: have bet five hundred dollars, That and then you can't
Speaker 3: really make out the rest of what he, says and
Speaker 3: Then spif goes into, like, yeah like and then explains
Speaker 3: what happened on. Thirteen now what happens on thirteen is
Speaker 3: my third, Takeaway so if we just want to do that,
Speaker 3: now we can do that. Now But speed talks about
Speaker 3: that his drive that goes a mile. Right IT'S i
Speaker 3: was At forkdale last week AND i went over to
Speaker 3: see how far this. Is. It it's, like you cannot
Speaker 3: believe how far right that t shot is That speF.
Speaker 2: Hits at one, point the commentarier says that must be
Speaker 2: one hundred yards right of the. Fairway at least.
Speaker 3: It's it's at least eighty it's it's way way way.
Speaker 3: Right But speF says that it that the ball hit
Speaker 3: a spectator's head and bounced up and over the, dune
Speaker 3: which IS i think even during the telecast live they
Speaker 3: say something to that, effect And i'm just throwing the challenge, Flag,
Speaker 3: like these dunes are so tall that there's no way
Speaker 3: that that that's what. Happened there's no way that it
Speaker 3: hit a spectator's head and went up and over the.
Speaker 3: Mounting i'm still une Especially, Yeah i'm still confused kind
Speaker 3: of how the ball ended. Up it must have just flown,
Speaker 3: there but that was so they.
Speaker 2: Missed they. Missed the initial camera goes to a place that's,
Speaker 2: whatever forty thirty yards on the right side of the.
Speaker 2: Dune they're, like, oh there's the people shuffling around the.
Speaker 2: Ball they found. It then we learned that the ball
Speaker 2: is like on the back side of the. Dune there
Speaker 2: is an individual like sitting on his keyster and he
Speaker 2: like When spete, arrives like he has just heard some,
Speaker 2: trauma And speed, says all, right but there's no way
Speaker 2: to hit somebody's head and then like hop fifty feet
Speaker 2: in the air onto the back side of the. Dune
Speaker 2: it's just Not the explanations still. Fuzzy But speed's story
Speaker 2: was That takoucher and the scoring, trailer what he believed had,
Speaker 2: happened or what was told to him had happened.
Speaker 3: Exactly So speed starts talking to him about how the
Speaker 3: drop went, down and you, KNOW i know people probably remember,
Speaker 3: this BUT i guess worth, Revisiting speed takes an unplayable
Speaker 3: lie goes back to the what is it was the
Speaker 3: driving range at the. Time it's no longer the driving
Speaker 3: range at least for the. Event it's the spectator the fan.
Speaker 3: Village BUT i, Mean, Brendan i'm sure you have this
Speaker 3: in your. Notes commentators are in disbelief at where they're
Speaker 3: Letting speed, drop AND i gotta, say it does not
Speaker 3: look Like speith is coming back on the line of
Speaker 3: play at. ALL i don't know if that's if they.
Speaker 2: Are they're, like that's not the line he's, on but
Speaker 2: he does have to he can't walk a straight line.
Speaker 2: BACK i think some of that was where they got
Speaker 2: worked up about, it like there are trailers and stuff
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 3: Way, OH i. DON'T i don't think straight back on
Speaker 3: the line of play is on the.
Speaker 2: Range, okay what do you think it? Is it's more
Speaker 2: in the it's it's in The schmutz, still, yeah maintained.
Speaker 3: Stuff oh, YEAH i THINK i think someone should like
Speaker 3: absolutely look back at.
Speaker 2: This oh, god oh, yeah call in conspiracy now nine
Speaker 2: YEARS i.
Speaker 3: Think it's a. Conspiracy you look at Where speed's ball
Speaker 3: is and what's straight back online with the. FLAG i
Speaker 3: don't think it's a Where speF goes initially or where
Speaker 3: he ends, up you, know kind of doing this drop
Speaker 3: because the way it plays, out he has to he
Speaker 3: doesn't even drop the. Ball he's between like.
Speaker 2: Ye, yo then the line of sight. Relief there's a
Speaker 2: couple of things going. On so he gets way to
Speaker 2: the right, sure and forward, too and a little bit
Speaker 2: forward from where he originally went all the way.
Speaker 3: Back, Right. Like they don't make him actually drop it
Speaker 3: because he would just be dropping it on like aluminum
Speaker 3: a part of the equipment. Trailers so they just give
Speaker 3: him the relief out to the. Right AND i really
Speaker 3: don't think it's straight back online with the. Flag that
Speaker 3: is one that that is a huge takeaway from. This
Speaker 3: the commentators are, Indignant they're, like that's not even close
Speaker 3: to where it's supposed to.
Speaker 2: Be they only for a, minute, though that were for
Speaker 2: a few seconds you think they were hammering that. POINT
Speaker 2: i was only when he first scampered down the. DUNE
Speaker 2: i heard.
Speaker 3: That they're pretty worked up about, it AND i, Think,
Speaker 3: brendan this is a follow up item for. YOU i
Speaker 3: guess next, week when you're, THERE i think you should
Speaker 3: kind of go over to that spot and look back
Speaker 3: at where he ends up. Dropping kind of crazy to
Speaker 3: me that he was able to get over on the driving,
Speaker 3: range but, yeah that's obviously one of the key moments
Speaker 3: of the tournament and SOMETHING i still between the ball
Speaker 3: bouncing over his, head bouncing off the guy's, head over
Speaker 3: the do into an unplayable, lie and then the. Drop
Speaker 3: it's amazing he gets out of there with a. Bogie
Speaker 3: it's a, huge huge turning point of the. Tournament but
Speaker 3: just obviously an an iconic moment in speace, career AND
Speaker 3: i think a moment that in so many ways encapsulates
Speaker 3: Who spief was as a player at his, peak and you,
Speaker 3: know sort of still is to an. Extent with the
Speaker 3: hitting shots way offline and then getting up and down
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 2: JAIL i, mean it's a total, circus, Right it's It's
Speaker 2: koocher hits his approach shot for and waits twenty minutes
Speaker 2: before he can hit his. Pot he doesn't take his
Speaker 2: drop or hit his, speed doesn't hit his second, shot
Speaker 2: then third would be the. THIRD i think it's over
Speaker 2: twenty minutes since his. DRIVE i like that it was
Speaker 2: one hundred yards right at one. Point one of the
Speaker 2: commentary blamed the water on the club faced as maybe the,
Speaker 2: issue just, like this guy has been hitting it in
Speaker 2: every direction miles off line for the last two and
Speaker 2: a half, hours and you're gonna play water on the
Speaker 2: club Base, like maybe it exacerbated slightly that the guy
Speaker 2: could could. Hit he's hit it nowhere near by the.
Speaker 2: Way the approach THAT i was talking, about by the,
Speaker 2: way my nose was. Eleven he half edge into the
Speaker 2: crowd at eleven and they hits the guy in the
Speaker 2: head and the guy is laughing and they, say got
Speaker 2: away with a great. Lie he's been. LUCKY i also
Speaker 2: like that he yanked one hard hook on ten and
Speaker 2: IMMEDIATELY i think It's Sam. Torrence oh he did not shot.
Speaker 2: Four they jam. Them they didn't chump. Four The european
Speaker 2: like that that four gate, keeping especially In, americans don't
Speaker 2: shout at his great didn't shove. Four lucky got a good,
Speaker 2: break did the trample down.
Speaker 3: Line so they could not be more quick to invoke
Speaker 3: the word. Fairness they're they're talking about fairness all over the.
Speaker 3: Place did you pick up?
Speaker 2: COMMENTARY i liked that they got mad and this was The.
Speaker 2: AUSTRALIAN i, mean It's Dougie, donnelly It's thomas Bjord is
Speaker 2: on the, Call Sam. Torrence somebody got upset that they
Speaker 2: were told to speed. Up they weren't even given a,
Speaker 2: warning they were told to speed. Up and one of
Speaker 2: them comments the rules officials have never tried to win
Speaker 2: a major, championship like they were indignant that they were
Speaker 2: told to speed.
Speaker 3: Up, yes and then so the thirteenthal takes twenty nine
Speaker 3: minutes total to, PLAY i believe after they hit their
Speaker 3: t shots on fourteen on the par, three okay if
Speaker 3: the rules officials then again are talking all that In
Speaker 3: Matt couture is it kind of kind of puts his
Speaker 3: hands out like, yeah, yeah like what do you want
Speaker 3: me to? Do which that WOULD i would love to
Speaker 3: Get couture's account, of because it was a little crazy
Speaker 3: that he'd be told to speed.
Speaker 2: Up THEN i did like the speek went to clearly
Speaker 2: want to go take a leak after his t. Shot
Speaker 2: now he was in tight on the. Fourteenth uh so
Speaker 2: he was potting, second no matter. What but still it's
Speaker 2: like he just took thirty minutes and, GOOD i gotta
Speaker 2: go take a leak and he'd like he catches. Up
Speaker 2: it's not a big, deal but it was just funny
Speaker 2: that after we've been waiting for the side, show he
Speaker 2: goes takes a leak off fourteen uh disappears other notes from.
Speaker 2: THIRTEEN i gotta give him his. Flowers he was in
Speaker 2: total command of the entire. Situation in my, opinion speeded
Speaker 2: there was, speedy total total, command like not really panicked at,
Speaker 2: all not, flustered not like we're sort of. USED i
Speaker 2: think there's this notion that Spetha is can get like
Speaker 2: emotional or or just gets on. TILT i think that's
Speaker 2: definitely a book on him a little. Bit he's in
Speaker 2: like complete. Command he's, like all, right we're going back,
Speaker 2: here and THEN i get, this and THEN i like
Speaker 2: he's conferring With. PARAMORE i thought he was, Like i'm
Speaker 2: gonna take unplayable from. This Then i'm gonna relieve From
Speaker 2: TiO on the. Range but, wait Now i'm going to
Speaker 2: line a site from the trucks and the commentary is,
Speaker 2: like this is getting Into sean Van dervelt, territory is
Speaker 2: what they. Say and at no point did he's been
Speaker 2: playing like shit. Awful DID i feel like he was
Speaker 2: sort of swimming in his own. Head it felt like
Speaker 2: he had a clear solution for the predicament he was.
Speaker 2: In and by the way he takes the, drop because
Speaker 2: he's like on a total grade, right and he's, Like
Speaker 2: i'm just GONNA i can't IF i hit it off
Speaker 2: this side, hill it's gonna go like thirty yards forward
Speaker 2: and just landed More schmuitzer in the. Gorse and so
Speaker 2: he gets back and THEN i think it's a three
Speaker 2: iron he sends or to some low iron Which Sam
Speaker 2: torrence claims like was could have been close to going
Speaker 2: right back the trajector could have gone right back into the,
Speaker 2: Hill AND i don't. KNOW i think it was really.
Speaker 2: Impressive it's not to say he was some like eighteen
Speaker 2: year old kids fresh off the whatever. College he'd won
Speaker 2: two majors at this, point but he was pretty locked.
Speaker 2: IN i was super impressed at how he handled that
Speaker 2: and knew what he wanted to. Do whether you think
Speaker 2: he took the right walk back or. Not on the
Speaker 2: line to the.
Speaker 3: Flat oh, no it's. Impressives he's basically telling the rules
Speaker 3: official what he's going to, do not asking if it's,
Speaker 3: okay if he can do that, yeah and seems present
Speaker 3: like he's kind of joking around a little bit with the.
Speaker 3: Fans it looks like and THEN i don't know, that
Speaker 3: not to get ahead of, ourselves but there's another moment
Speaker 3: like that on seventeen where he's about to hit his
Speaker 3: pitch yeah into, seventeen his third, shot and a camera goes.
Speaker 3: OFF i didn't remember this at, all right in the
Speaker 3: middle of his, backswing and he he backs, off handles
Speaker 3: it really well and then steps up and hits a good.
Speaker 3: Shot so speak's poises interesting you called that, out but,
Speaker 3: YEAH i thought it was really.
Speaker 2: Impressive we should note like so much of that scene
Speaker 2: is just focused on the hill and the just the,
Speaker 2: circus the trucks and. Everything like probably the best shot
Speaker 2: he hit on the hole was the wedge. Shot right
Speaker 2: he leaves, himself so he gets this iron all the
Speaker 2: way up In. Greenside it's on like a slight, downhill
Speaker 2: lie right in front of a pop bunker which he
Speaker 2: needs to clear up and over the pop bunker to
Speaker 2: then the pin is kind of over a, hump but
Speaker 2: then starts screams away from you after that, hump so
Speaker 2: he's got a kind of he's on it. DOWNHILL i
Speaker 2: got to pop it over the pop, bunker kind of
Speaker 2: get over the hump on the, green but not too
Speaker 2: much that it screams off the. Back it was a
Speaker 2: really delicate ship shot and making up and down to
Speaker 2: save a five quote save a five. There that chip
Speaker 2: shot was the best shot he hit and the whole
Speaker 2: sequence and maybe maybe the day even probably giving it
Speaker 2: too much, credit but.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's There's we're about to get to a shot, that,
Speaker 3: YEAH i think is one of the best shots of his.
Speaker 2: Career but that chip shot was kind of a little
Speaker 2: bit lost to. History in the scene of getting back in, play,
Speaker 2: YEAH i.
Speaker 3: Think cuture calls that out, too maybe after the, round
Speaker 3: like how good.
Speaker 2: Of it it was in all the, Chaos, OKAY i
Speaker 2: THINK i think that drives just about the last like
Speaker 2: real shitty. Shot he misses a few pharaways to seventeen is.
Speaker 2: Bad that was my one of my big takeaways the whole.
Speaker 2: Scene they're tied at eight under and commentary is, like
Speaker 2: well at, best he's on in four While coature's on
Speaker 2: into at, best he's on it four and to make
Speaker 2: it a five of FIVE e Four and that's the
Speaker 2: first TIME i believe he lost the, lead wasn't just pulled,
Speaker 2: even but actually lost the, lead and he would respond
Speaker 2: by going, going Going. HAM i think we've kind of
Speaker 2: hit my three takeaways talking about. This uh, yeah outside
Speaker 2: of the range scene and the go get that, POINT
Speaker 2: i think that's where it's. Depends still down. To but
Speaker 2: he nearly aces the part. Three he's finally. Behind he's
Speaker 2: finally behind in the in the WHAT i call the
Speaker 2: match With, kucher and then he nearly aces the part.
Speaker 2: Three then he eagles the par five, fifteenth then he
Speaker 2: birdies the, sixteenth then he birdies you, know he gets
Speaker 2: a nice break with a bad. Drive birdie's a part,
Speaker 2: five So birdie's both part, fives nearly aces the part,
Speaker 2: three And birdie's A part. Four so he goes the,
Speaker 2: drop saves the, bogie Goes Bertie Eagle, Birdie, birdie and
Speaker 2: that was. It there was Nothing kucher could. Do it was,
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't know if it's a microcosm Of speet's
Speaker 2: career where there was an hour where you thought he
Speaker 2: was maybe the best, Golfer he's the best golfer in the,
Speaker 2: world and maybe the best golfer of his, Era like
Speaker 2: nobody can do, this this is. Incredible and there was
Speaker 2: sixty to seventy percent of the day where you thought
Speaker 2: he was barely a professional. Golfer and it's just the
Speaker 2: roller coaster of speed that now has become a little more, monotonous,
Speaker 2: right it's the roller coaster TO t fifty five? Essentially
Speaker 2: is that a decent? Analogy is this a microcosm of
Speaker 2: like of there was like two to three years there
Speaker 2: where he was the best player in the, world and
Speaker 2: there was about thirty percent of this major where it
Speaker 2: seemed like this is the best golf you'll ever. See And,
Speaker 2: Miller Johnny miller's quote to that point after some of
Speaker 2: the worst kind of head scratching, golf but a decent. Point.
Speaker 3: YEAH i think it is the defining sequence Of Jordan's speace.
Speaker 3: CAREER i think if you wanted to Understand speace's, career his,
Speaker 3: greatness his, flaws watching the hour and a half between
Speaker 3: holes thirteen and seventeen you get a feel for. It,
Speaker 3: again we've talked about the drop in that whole, scene
Speaker 3: which is crazy and again emblematic of space career because
Speaker 3: he does miss way right and way left at. Times
Speaker 3: we talked about the go get that a bomb, putt,
Speaker 3: which at the height Of speak's, powers he was draining
Speaker 3: putts from outside twenty feet more than anybody else was
Speaker 3: in the world by a comfortable. Margin but the iron
Speaker 3: shot into fourteen, MIGHT i, mean it's one of the
Speaker 3: best shots of six yards nearly holds. It it's very
Speaker 3: close to going. In, Yeah and now that that's you,
Speaker 3: know probably a shot that a lot of people don't even.
Speaker 3: REMEMBER i think they.
Speaker 2: Don't that's WHAT i. Meant it's just still to go
Speaker 2: get that point in him on the, dune and IT'S
Speaker 2: i think that the par three, shot after you've been
Speaker 2: just the mess all day is the one.
Speaker 3: Crazy and then sixteen he pours in another bomb And.
Speaker 2: Coachers, yeah from the side across the.
Speaker 3: Green, yeah it's kind of. Cool you can See coocher's
Speaker 3: face in the telecast as that goes, in and he's
Speaker 3: just he's kind of. Smiling he doesn't look. Gutted he's
Speaker 3: more just in shock a little bit and. Amazed and
Speaker 3: he handles it really. Well but that little five hole,
Speaker 3: STRETCHY i, agree that's his emblematic of space career as.
Speaker 3: ANYTHING i, mean that was a NOTE i had is
Speaker 3: that the best four hole stretch in major championship history
Speaker 3: is that just being.
Speaker 2: Played over the, reactor played a five under after looking
Speaker 2: after losing the. Lead kind of incredible five under and
Speaker 2: four holes after like being awful day and losing your
Speaker 2: three shot lead to start the.
Speaker 3: Day sure there are people who would throw out a
Speaker 3: different four hole, stretch BUT i don't, know at least
Speaker 3: in the modern. Majors i'm thinking, through, LIKE i don't
Speaker 3: think anyone's rattled off a four hole stretch like that
Speaker 3: to go from looking like they were going to lose
Speaker 3: the tournament it really felt Like kucher is going to
Speaker 3: win to just completely taking it.
Speaker 2: OVER i would just, add and this was on the
Speaker 2: heels of like one of the most, embarrassing like kind
Speaker 2: of in public view losses at a major in this
Speaker 2: in this stretch right the twenty Sixteen, masters, right he
Speaker 2: hadn't like, like oh is this happening? Again has he
Speaker 2: ever been recovered from? That and we say him like
Speaker 2: he's game? Again but but that was sort of still
Speaker 2: that context of the of the Sixteen, masters and is
Speaker 2: he pissing this away for the first three hours and
Speaker 2: then he goes crazy over the last hour and a.
Speaker 2: HALF i did like seventeen when he finally hits another wayward,
Speaker 2: shot he goes it hits the, crowd and that was
Speaker 2: three yards from the jungle when it. Hit if he
Speaker 2: had hit the, crowd they call it basically going into the.
Speaker 2: Jungle if didn't bounce, off.
Speaker 3: He had a good break, there good, break, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah t shot, fifteen the part five is down the.
Speaker 2: Middle it's the seed gets on in. Three the putt's
Speaker 2: obviously just a. Bonus but they talk about when he's
Speaker 2: on in. Two they're, like, quote he's favored again after
Speaker 2: three hours of him kind of bleeding away and then
Speaker 2: finally behind the eight.
Speaker 3: Ball jordan gets a lot of good breaks that. Day
Speaker 3: he really. Doesn't he's tweeting about, that like how lucky he.
Speaker 3: Is there's a lot of talent involved in that. Win
Speaker 3: it's distilling it down to. Lucks, unfair but there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people who, like this is the luckiest round
Speaker 3: of Golf i've ever seen in my.
Speaker 2: LIFE i Thought coocher the kiss credit That birdie on
Speaker 2: seventeen was super impressive and made it was super. Long
Speaker 2: putt that like Making sweet work for his sweets inside
Speaker 2: of him by a good ten, feet but still has
Speaker 2: to make a call it seven footer and so that
Speaker 2: makes If sweet doesn't make, that it's one shot on.
Speaker 2: Eighteen and given the way we've seen him like play all,
Speaker 2: day a five is perfectly within reason to force a
Speaker 2: playoff couture pouring that in from outside and was super.
Speaker 2: Impressive it's probably fifteen feet that. Is that's SOMETHING i
Speaker 2: had in my notes. Too, yeah that's one of the
Speaker 2: most impressive moments of the day for. ME i like
Speaker 2: When speed finally got it. Back they're saying he's up
Speaker 2: Against Harry. Potter they started referring To speed This Harry.
Speaker 2: Potter he's got to pull something out of the, fire clopping.
Speaker 2: On all, right all, right we'll get to it. Later
Speaker 2: we'll get to it. Later let you'll let you bring it.
Speaker 2: Up those are MY i, mean that's you covered my,
Speaker 2: takeaways how bad and boring it, was and how bad
Speaker 2: he was through. Thirteen that amazing play that's just been
Speaker 2: distilled down to the. Two go get that imagery in the.
Speaker 2: Mound and then my other one was How Tom? Lee
Speaker 2: how they make How tom? Started twelve shots off the?
Speaker 2: Lead they do four hours of How Tom? Lee Uh? Gospel,
Speaker 2: well the part that it wasn't.
Speaker 3: ONE i think how tong is like on the range
Speaker 3: As speed, Is, yes he, is he, is As speed
Speaker 3: is like taking the drop on the, range like how
Speaker 3: song goes back. OUT i NEED i need to look
Speaker 3: at the exact sequencing, there BUT i think How song
Speaker 3: like was probably on the range a, nearby as that
Speaker 3: whole sequence is unfolding on, thirteen which is maybe maybe
Speaker 3: he goes right. AFTER i can't one percent, remember.
Speaker 2: But any other couture thoughts you, HAD i mean Just
Speaker 2: i'll add a few few. Things for the, Commentary speed.
Speaker 2: Finishes miller, says it's the greatest finish you'd ever. Seen,
Speaker 2: You'rosay i'll wake up in a. Minute call him you
Speaker 2: are he's. Dreaming they call him you are a. Legend
Speaker 2: What speed has just done has been, heroic like the
Speaker 2: sort of the guiding up Of, speed and it almost
Speaker 2: felt appropriate given what we watched was in full force
Speaker 2: coming down the. Stretch maybe we'll get The Harry potter
Speaker 2: in a. Minute do you want to do odds and
Speaker 2: ends odds and ends, here any other big takeaways you
Speaker 2: want to?
Speaker 3: DO i want to hit on most of. Mine speed
Speaker 3: really talks About growler, afterwards.
Speaker 2: And that was.
Speaker 3: COOL i think you'd probably like this. Note apparently walking
Speaker 3: to the seven tea, box walking off the seventh tea,
Speaker 3: Box growler Made speed come back to him and he,
Speaker 3: said do you remember that group you were with In
Speaker 3: cabo last? Week you belong in that group like you're a,
Speaker 3: Winner you're you're A matt, caliber so you, know hearkening
Speaker 3: back to The cobo. Squad who was? THAT i, MEAN
Speaker 3: i was thinking AT i, think, so, yeah that was
Speaker 3: WHAT i had in my.
Speaker 2: Head but, OKAY i, mean, yeah you want of masters
Speaker 2: in THE. Uso but at this point it wasn't like
Speaker 2: he was some scrub looking for his first. Major some
Speaker 2: odds and that's AMUSEMENTS i would like to get. To
Speaker 2: cooch has a ton of support from the. Crowd, yeah,
Speaker 2: crazy and maybe it's just because they enjoy Yelling cooche
Speaker 2: and it was that's, fun, inconvenient but they're screaming his.
Speaker 2: Name cooch is very loud going up the eighteenth all the,
Speaker 2: WAY a lot of support For. Cooch one of my
Speaker 2: favorite things from this broadcast is if you are under
Speaker 2: like twenty, five and sometimes if you're under forty, five
Speaker 2: they think you're essentially the future of. Golf great gun,
Speaker 2: player who's going to dominate.
Speaker 3: Golf What Austin, Connolly.
Speaker 2: Austin, Connolly i've remembered this. Before EVEN i remember The
Speaker 2: connolly chronicles of him sort of showing up the player
Speaker 2: for the. Future he is only twenty years. Old we
Speaker 2: haven't heard much from Mister connolly since. Then Alfie, plant
Speaker 2: who's referred to as Having alfie's, army The Alfie plant.
Speaker 2: Manias he's walking up eight he was low am they,
Speaker 2: say remember the Name Alfie. Plant, well to Mister, plant they,
Speaker 2: Said i'll never forget the last ten minutes on this eighteenth.
Speaker 2: Pole that. Was that was a cool. Moment but player
Speaker 2: for the, Future Austin, connolly remember the name Healthy. Plant
Speaker 2: Brandon grace who shot sixty. Two he loves links, golf
Speaker 2: still a young. Man every chance that one Day Brandon
Speaker 2: grace could be An open, champion basically writing him on the,
Speaker 2: Clara Young Brandon grace hasn't sniffed a Mature.
Speaker 3: Do you know how old he was at the.
Speaker 2: Time he had to be like thirty three or. Something
Speaker 2: he wasn't a young maya.
Speaker 3: Slightly younger than. That, yeah he was twenty nine at the.
Speaker 1: Time.
Speaker 2: Uh How ton who we've mentioned once or. Twice bertie's
Speaker 2: the last four so bald out To she's sixty, three
Speaker 2: Goes Bertie, Birdie Birdie. Birdie he's got a great future
Speaker 2: ahead of. Him speaks Great. English he's a lovely, guy
Speaker 2: he really. Is on How Ton, lee so incredible futures
Speaker 2: For Brandon grace basically gonna win and Open Alfie. Plant
Speaker 2: Austin connolly and How Ton. Lee they also at one
Speaker 2: Point Aaron, BADDELEY i don't remember, why came up on
Speaker 2: the broadcast AND i think he shot sixty. Four maybe
Speaker 2: not this. Day he's been quiet for a while. While
Speaker 2: now you're On Australian australia twenty. Seventeen and then they
Speaker 2: wait a minute because.
Speaker 3: He was thirty six at the.
Speaker 2: Time they, said, oh perhaps not too young. Anymore they
Speaker 2: finally caught. THEMSELVES i just couldn't believe, that, like the
Speaker 2: future of golf is the athlete. Playing Austin, Contilly Brandon,
Speaker 2: grace how TAT i love. That that was a theme
Speaker 2: throughout the broadcast THAT i have what other odds it? Ends,
Speaker 2: yeah you want me to keep. RIPPING i had some good.
Speaker 3: Tweets oh, No Skip, Dale i've pulled up a bunch,
Speaker 3: here but probably the best one speak is the mentally
Speaker 3: toughest psychological mess in golf. History never seen such a
Speaker 3: great player so dependent on a. Caddie Jordan, greller.
Speaker 2: What oh, God.
Speaker 3: Skip bayless getting deep in some speech, takes talking about
Speaker 3: how lucky he, was talking.
Speaker 2: About anti speed very getting hot at.
Speaker 3: Him, huh calls him the slowest player on, tour that
Speaker 3: he Iced. Coature so, Yeah Skip bayles's getting in on
Speaker 3: the golf.
Speaker 2: Discourse love, That love. THAT i like. That Ernie els
Speaker 2: played with How tod in this and of Course holton
Speaker 2: was the one that would eventually Drive ernie insane At
Speaker 2: Roye melbourne as the. Captain they were. Like ernie was
Speaker 2: clearly enamored with How tom was, like just, shoot wait
Speaker 2: two more. Years this guy's going to drive you insane
Speaker 2: at the peak, Up oh tell.
Speaker 3: Him how to play a hole In Royal. Melbourne he
Speaker 3: does the complete, opposite.
Speaker 2: You, know With southgate who shot sixty. Five credit to,
Speaker 2: him but when he put it, out you would think
Speaker 2: he just like caught a touchdown to win The Super
Speaker 2: bowl in. OVERTIME i mean the fist, pumps the double fist,
Speaker 2: PUMPS i mean whatever special Uh rory was a. FACTOR
Speaker 2: i guess he finishes just he has the rib thing
Speaker 2: like you, said but not. Really they show him all
Speaker 2: the way around and he did he eagle. SEVENTEEN i
Speaker 2: think he eagles seventeen and they're, like, oh maybe a.
Speaker 2: Chance and he's on eighteen and they're, like if he birdie's,
Speaker 2: eighteen he'll Tie howton and you never, know, like come,
Speaker 2: on the guy is like six shots. Behind they say
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to be.
Speaker 3: FAIR i think How tong gets within one and it's
Speaker 3: just that speed then rattles it all. Off so.
Speaker 2: How ton was at, six he did no one ever has. Seven,
Speaker 2: yes he finishes five.
Speaker 3: Under he plays five under over that four whole. STRETCH i.
Speaker 2: Know But cooch was at. Eight, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: But it's not it's not completely out of the.
Speaker 2: Realm that's, FINE i understand. It it's just they kept
Speaker 2: doing it all the way to. Eight me And rory
Speaker 2: have if he can come, on.
Speaker 3: You had to enjoy when How tong left the.
Speaker 2: Range, yeah finally to get him in the, cart get
Speaker 2: him the hell. Off this is over what other odds in?
Speaker 2: IT RCB, Rafa cabrera. Bee all over the broadcast it
Speaker 2: seemed kind of. Soft guys were flying balls to the,
Speaker 2: pin seemed kind OF i don't, know stopping that was.
Speaker 2: Early maybe, NO i, agree BUT.
Speaker 3: I have a note that it looked a little more.
Speaker 3: Burnt the fairways looked a little more burnt out than
Speaker 3: at least WHAT i saw last week WHEN i was.
Speaker 2: There so minimal entertainment of the. Crowds guys just kind
Speaker 2: of wandering. IN i sent you an ass that there's
Speaker 2: a guy who shows up on eleven tea? Box what
Speaker 2: was that to take a? Selfie As spif comes off
Speaker 2: the tea box And speed has to push him like
Speaker 2: gently out of the, way so he puts his hand
Speaker 2: on his. Back they're, like, hey, man like the guy's
Speaker 2: backpedaling across the tea box with his.
Speaker 3: Phone is that just a?
Speaker 2: Fan it's IF i believe it's just a, fan and
Speaker 2: if it's a security or some, volunteer then they're also
Speaker 2: insane because they backpedaled into the tea box walkway And
Speaker 2: speed has to push him to excuse him out of the,
Speaker 2: way trying to get a selfie like a thirst bucket
Speaker 2: of the. Century that's my Thirst bucket of The watch.
Speaker 2: Award this dufist that wanders into the line of the
Speaker 2: walkway And speed has to push for his little. Selfie
Speaker 2: that Was but otherwise there's also just like green to
Speaker 2: tea walks like people just kind of no. Ropes it's.
Speaker 2: There the containment WAS i don't.
Speaker 3: Know a lot of Times slumbers was asked about the
Speaker 3: security going into, it and that must have been a but,
Speaker 3: No i'm not. Joking that must have been like some
Speaker 3: level of consider around.
Speaker 2: THAT i don't know IF i felt secure security was an,
Speaker 2: issue just more amused that the fans were in the
Speaker 2: thick of. It just, good what else do you have.
Speaker 3: If we want to get to our? Awards, yeah what.
Speaker 2: One funny, ONE i, Thought but this was? It, YEAH
Speaker 2: i mean this was When ricky was green side for
Speaker 2: all his friends winning majors bridesmade never the, bride but
Speaker 2: he was considered a top five and all of the,
Speaker 2: awards and he gets completely iced By, speed who GIVES
Speaker 2: jt a hug and then doesn't See, ricky And ricky
Speaker 2: just has to hit him on the back As speed
Speaker 2: rocks away to. SCORING i mean It's, Zach It's, Woodland
Speaker 2: speed Or, RICKY. JT a bunch of guys green. SIDE
Speaker 2: i think they've ended up all in the. FLIGHT i
Speaker 2: believe they were drinking out Of claire jugging the flight
Speaker 2: home after this From. Speed BUT i felt bad For.
Speaker 2: Ricky he's just totally Left hayn in here As Speed
Speaker 2: furst after GIVING jt a. Hug that Was that was an.
Speaker 2: Amusement you want to get two, Awards we.
Speaker 3: Can get to. AWARDS i THINK i have most of
Speaker 3: my amusements.
Speaker 2: Covered let's do.
Speaker 3: It i'm trying to think THERE'S i think that that
Speaker 3: basically covers it for.
Speaker 2: Me favorite favorite commentary, Moment So Beef johnston is Playing.
Speaker 2: Paul he's playing With Paul. Casey casey appears at the
Speaker 2: hour forty five minute. MARK i don't know if you remember.
Speaker 2: Him Paul casey leaves now The, prushers but the Comic
Speaker 2: beef is. Still you, know this was the height of.
Speaker 2: Beef not the height of beef was the year before twenty.
Speaker 2: Sixteen Pga balti. Strawl he was just he was. Everywhere
Speaker 2: so this is still running. Hot he's got the RB's
Speaker 2: logo on his shirt there and he's coming down eighteen
Speaker 2: this maybe laugh out, loud and the commentary goes great
Speaker 2: reception for the, beef like very, enthusiastic and Also Paul,
Speaker 2: casey as if they just had to throw great reception
Speaker 2: for the. Beef and Also Paul. CASEY i was like forgetting, That,
Speaker 2: like while no one is cheering For Paul, casey absolutely,
Speaker 2: no everybody's shot beef beef. Beef no one's shotting while
Speaker 2: BEEF i think is won over And casey is three
Speaker 2: hunder on the day and they're, like everybody's a great
Speaker 2: reception for the. Beef, oh and Also Paul. Casey it
Speaker 2: just made me laugh out, loud just being you, know
Speaker 2: throwing him in there on the, end upending him though
Speaker 2: when clearly know and then he puts Out, casey that's
Speaker 2: just no one says. Anything they just keep shouting. Beef
Speaker 2: it's most tepid. Response that made me.
Speaker 3: Laugh so surprising With Paul casey being from. There BUT
Speaker 3: i think my favorite, commentary, well what was that you
Speaker 3: think people?
Speaker 2: Are, yes that's WHAT i, Think, Yeah, HOMER.
Speaker 3: I think my favorite. Commentary you already hit on. This
Speaker 3: there were a lot of, options but them continuing to
Speaker 3: refer To jordan's speed As Harry potter throughout throughout the
Speaker 3: back and. Nine it's a match made in heaven for
Speaker 3: These british, commentators the golden, Boy like there's the magic of.
Speaker 3: It they loved calling Him Harry potter.
Speaker 2: Repeatedly, yep, yep that was. Funny It's Harry. Potter he's
Speaker 2: it's like pulling the something out of the. Fire he's
Speaker 2: got to pull it, out the sword out of the
Speaker 2: fire to beat this, man Coop. CHER i, mean it's
Speaker 2: kind of insane THAT i. Know we've talked about. This
Speaker 2: he went out in thirty. Seven there were sixty fives
Speaker 2: all over the. Place he had a sixty. Three that's
Speaker 2: just like no one kind of made. It and it
Speaker 2: was still felt like just a two horse.
Speaker 3: Race.
Speaker 2: Anyways he had a.
Speaker 3: Lead, YEAH i, mean he had a pretty significant, LEAD i, know.
Speaker 2: But there were six there were low, sixties mid, sixties
Speaker 2: and just no one pushed him from, ahead from in.
Speaker 2: Front it's interesting after scuffling, around but then he turned
Speaker 2: Into Harry. Potter what are other looking?
Speaker 3: Now, so, yeah he had a three shot lead Over
Speaker 3: couchure and a six shot lead over, Third so, somebody,
Speaker 3: yeah just for, context but, yeah, yeah, yeah he.
Speaker 2: Shot sixty nine right after gone. Nuts i'm just saying
Speaker 2: before he got to that, point no one had trussed.
Speaker 2: Him it was just him And.
Speaker 3: Couture, Well brooks had a bad, day and that's part of,
Speaker 3: it Because brooks was one of the best position To, actually.
Speaker 2: Speaking of bad, days worst, dressed this was the height
Speaker 2: of the blade. COLLAR i don't know That brooks was the,
Speaker 2: worst but oh my. God Every nike boy was in blade.
Speaker 2: Collars you had fleet AND i don't know if they
Speaker 2: were all good For, nike if they were factoring On,
Speaker 2: sunday but it was just every time he looked, up
Speaker 2: there's a blade, Collar brooks looks LIKE i thought it
Speaker 2: Was Thorbjorn olson when it came on the. Screen remember
Speaker 2: when Thorn bjorn was in His nike. Era he just looks.
Speaker 2: Younger he's obviously not as thick in the shoulders.
Speaker 3: And just.
Speaker 2: Thinner he just won his first. Major you've Got brooks
Speaker 2: in a blade, Collar roar in a blade, Collar Alex
Speaker 2: nora in a blade, Collar Tommy fleetwood in a baggyar blade.
Speaker 2: Collar there's just blade. COLLARS i forgot about the blade.
Speaker 2: Collar one Thing i'll note about all these flashbacks we
Speaker 2: do is how fast the fashion falls out of. FAVOR i,
Speaker 2: mean if you go And i'm not you go to
Speaker 2: two thousand and Six, oakmont you think you're on a
Speaker 2: different planet or not two thousand, anytime, right two thousand Seven,
Speaker 2: oakmont you go to even twenty twenty, One like it's just,
Speaker 2: quickly how fast the fashion falls out of. Favor and
Speaker 2: this major doesn't feel that long, ago but the looks
Speaker 2: of it do feel like a totally different and that's pretty.
Speaker 2: Consistent oh you.
Speaker 3: Mentioned somebody worst. DRESSED i thought we were going to
Speaker 3: be on the same the same. Page. Here what Is rory?
Speaker 3: Wearing are you kidding?
Speaker 2: ME i remember this pretty.
Speaker 3: Clearly The steeler black, hat yellow, shirt black and then these,
Speaker 3: yeah these black shoes with yellow on the. Bottom it
Speaker 3: looks like A Pittsburgh steelers like five year old got
Speaker 3: to Dress rory however they wanted.
Speaker 2: TODAY i remember this. WELL i remembered it. WELL i was,
Speaker 2: like because you wouldn't see him in yellow? Really, ever the,
Speaker 2: shoes this is a horrible. Look black and.
Speaker 3: Yellow, yeah is there some connection there That i'm.
Speaker 2: Missing THAT'S i remember it. HAPPENED i was, like, oh that's,
Speaker 2: Different but, YEAH i remember.
Speaker 3: That that looks.
Speaker 2: Awful what about the fourteen kits he had when he
Speaker 2: won his two majors with the sleeves that are the
Speaker 2: color of the collar and then the two sleeves are
Speaker 2: stitched like red and purple and. Blue that some bad.
Speaker 2: Outfits that's a night, ISSUE i, Think, yeah, yeah all,
Speaker 2: right what other awards do we? Have worts, player.
Speaker 3: You didn't expect to see on the. Telecast i'm happy to,
Speaker 3: Go Jason, DUFFNER i was.
Speaker 2: Mine oh you have the same line. Too, yep. Yep
Speaker 2: they called The duffmeister on the, Broadcast Jason. Duffer he
Speaker 2: must have had like a putting out on eighteen camera
Speaker 2: because they just they do this pretty. Frequently just well
Speaker 2: the Here's sergio coming to Eighteen duffer putting out an.
Speaker 2: Eighteenister pretty, good he was. Random didn't expect to see.
Speaker 3: HIM i think that sort of covers. Awards but you
Speaker 3: had sent me, This you had sent me this picture
Speaker 3: to pull up on the screen at some.
Speaker 2: Points, Oh rory coming in eighteen worst? DRESSED i mean
Speaker 2: that divot he had on top of his shoulder like he's.
Speaker 2: Hacking this is at eighteen when they allegedly think he
Speaker 2: can still win if he just hits it out from
Speaker 2: the hay into you, know two feet For birdie to
Speaker 2: get the. Six, yeah he had this JUST i was
Speaker 2: a comical. Moment, giant giant chunk of divid just lands
Speaker 2: all over his. Shoulder so that was. Funny any other
Speaker 2: SCREENSHOTS i sent you that the selfie one was it was,
Speaker 2: funny but a lot of random sightings BETWEEN, rcb so
Speaker 2: MUCH rcb coverage in This Cabrera BeO. Did he was.
Speaker 3: GOOD rtv was kind of was around this.
Speaker 2: TIME i mean he was on The Ryder cup team in,
Speaker 2: sixteen SO i mean he was a he was a
Speaker 2: top player player at this. Point SO i think that
Speaker 2: does it anything. ELSE i mean our, awards.
Speaker 3: It's twenty like, thirteen the drop on. Thirteen we spent
Speaker 3: some a pretty good amount of time on, it BUT
Speaker 3: i think we should like that's the moment of the.
Speaker 3: Tournament you're, right first twelve holes very, sleepy and then
Speaker 3: thirteen to seventeen is one of the craziest five hole
Speaker 3: stretches you'll ever.
Speaker 2: SEE i, mean that's what it felt.
Speaker 3: Like it's just.
Speaker 2: The opposite Of stenson And speed Or stenson And. Michelson
Speaker 2: this two. Guy no one's, challenging but it's a pillow
Speaker 2: fight instead of them both trying to shoot sixty.
Speaker 3: Four that's a little disrespectful To. Cuture he's not playing, badly.
Speaker 2: But he's not doing anything consequential until like he finishes really,
Speaker 2: strong but not well.
Speaker 3: Enough, yeah he kind OF i don't. Know he was,
Speaker 3: okay he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Great, yeah, YEAH i think he. Was he. Was he was,
Speaker 2: good not, Great but.
Speaker 3: He does get a couple of really rough. BREAKS i will,
Speaker 3: say coutures where his t shot ends up like on
Speaker 3: six is. Awful but, whatever we don't we've done enough
Speaker 3: play by.
Speaker 2: PLAY i mean there there was there was a, yeah
Speaker 2: an incredible run of of wayward shots that landed one
Speaker 2: way or, another and most of it landed quite well For,
Speaker 2: speed and then he took advantage of the position he
Speaker 2: was in at the. END i did Like, Couchers navy.
Speaker 2: Sketchers they kind of look like on running the On
Speaker 2: Running navy on. Runnings right, now you know that that?
Speaker 3: Brand all?
Speaker 2: Right that does? IT i did find Old ew And
Speaker 2: murray article and we all like what we wrote about
Speaker 2: speech at this moment WAS i think he became the
Speaker 2: youngest Since jack to get this three of the first four, slam,
Speaker 2: right and so like you're throwing out some big, names,
Speaker 2: right and he spent sixty seventy percent of the broadcast
Speaker 2: looking like the guy who might never win a major.
Speaker 2: Again and then he wins, it and you're, like there's
Speaker 2: all this, like youngest Since SEVE i think to win
Speaker 2: it when he went sevy one AND i believe in seventy,
Speaker 2: nine The Claire. Chugg so there's all these, things and
Speaker 2: there's The sevy, comparisons, like, ah this guy just slapped
Speaker 2: it everywhere and shot sixty nine and and so it's
Speaker 2: it's there were a lot of lofty comparisons because he
Speaker 2: was one to this, one you, know one more to The,
Speaker 2: slam and you know we're nine years on here and
Speaker 2: it's just coming by A pga. Tour win is the big,
Speaker 2: thing not even contending at a. Major it's the big.
Speaker 2: Thing and you had, said whatever Else Jordan's SPE's career
Speaker 2: yields and expect it to be, plenty there will never
Speaker 2: be anything as remarkable as this twenty three year old
Speaker 2: will go to THE uspga in under month's, time needing
Speaker 2: only that title will complete the. Slam if that seems
Speaker 2: partly logical given speece talent and ferocious mental, strength hard
Speaker 2: facts do a huge disservice to a truly astonishing afternoon At.
Speaker 2: Birkdale the end of it, all he became the youngest
Speaker 2: recipient of The Claric jugson seventy. Nine is fitting that
Speaker 2: a man who prevailed Then sevy had a propuncy to
Speaker 2: play the central character in a. Drama if a scriptwriter
Speaker 2: delivered a script for this the conclusion of one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty Six Open, championship the odds are it would
Speaker 2: have been rejected on the grounds of being. Fanciful this
Speaker 2: was pretty perfect for that. Year The european writer in
Speaker 2: common terry BECAUSE i don't think anyone played, great but
Speaker 2: it was an exceptional show for the last hour and a.
Speaker 3: Half not to go, on not to go, On. TANGENT
Speaker 3: i just the expression you couldn't write this script is
Speaker 3: just way too it's just way. Overuse that's that's a
Speaker 3: script you could. Write BUT i Think i've think part
Speaker 3: of what you're hinting at is like if you watched
Speaker 3: this round From, speed you could kind of tell that
Speaker 3: maybe this wasn't going to last. Forever LIKE i think
Speaker 3: it's easy to go back and say, That but at the,
Speaker 3: time Like, speed whether it was taped together at times or,
Speaker 3: OFTEN i don't think there were many people who were
Speaker 3: saying that this this run was about about to. End so, no,
Speaker 3: YES i think it's a cautionary tale about calling people
Speaker 3: the Next Tiger, woods and even With scottie at, times
Speaker 3: you know we've done, That BUT i don't think that
Speaker 3: IT'S i don't think the people that were starting to
Speaker 3: say that kind of stuff were way over their. SKIS i,
Speaker 3: mean there was a lot of evidence at least for
Speaker 3: why speak was going to be really.
Speaker 2: GOOD i, mean if you watch the way he handled the,
Speaker 2: drop and then the next, hour you're, like holy, shit
Speaker 2: this guy has the Mental maybe he doesn't have the,
Speaker 2: game it looks like, sometimes but he has the something
Speaker 2: that wins every that. WINS i know what you're getting
Speaker 2: at is like this kind of looks like a guy
Speaker 2: who is never going to win a major.
Speaker 3: Again AND i just think it's easier for us to
Speaker 3: say that now than it.
Speaker 2: Totally, Yeah, well it's sort of, yeah, okay you don't
Speaker 2: think the first thirteen.
Speaker 3: HOLES i think we're fla like quail, hollow and then
Speaker 3: it's golf is really. Hard, yeah very very hard to.
Speaker 3: Predict but it is amusing now to look back and
Speaker 3: see how taped together this round was from speed and
Speaker 3: then see what's become of. It, yeah, Sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah one last, thing as someone who went to the
Speaker 2: golf course a week, ago do you have any golf
Speaker 2: course thoughts after a while you've watched you rewatched this,
Speaker 2: twice this this four and a half hour. Broadcast, ay
Speaker 2: it's an entirely new. Course they worked On, Mackenzie Tom,
Speaker 2: Mackenzie mackenzie And ebert worked on all eighteen. Holes, well
Speaker 2: we'll have playing at course coverage. Coming but anything you
Speaker 2: know relative to this rewatch versus what you saw week
Speaker 2: jump out to you a week.
Speaker 3: Ago, yeah and all the holes are changed in some,
Speaker 3: ways big and. SMALL i think the course will play virtually.
Speaker 3: Identically so if people are saying all the holes have,
Speaker 3: changed is a totally different golf, Course it's not totally
Speaker 3: different golf. COURSE i think it'll play the exact same.
Speaker 3: Way probably the elephant in the.
Speaker 2: Room do you say? That why do you say that BECAUSE.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of the changes that they made
Speaker 3: are significantly altering THE dna of the golf. Course like
Speaker 3: there's some bunkers, removed.
Speaker 2: They changed the. Part there's new holes and changed part
Speaker 2: like it's yeah two part fives in the last three
Speaker 2: or last four, holes, right, yeah it's not like three
Speaker 2: here in the new part. Three, okay, yeah, Yeah but
Speaker 2: you're saying overall it's not going to PLAY.
Speaker 3: I don't think. It's, yeah it's not, like, oh in
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen it was a bomber's fest and now it's
Speaker 3: for you, know short straight. Hitters it's not like the
Speaker 3: type of play that it's going to favor should. CHANGE
Speaker 3: i really don't think it's going to change much at.
Speaker 3: All the fifteen's like a beast of a part three
Speaker 3: now two hundred and forty. Yards, sure now there's like
Speaker 3: a real long, Iron but other than, THAT i mean
Speaker 3: the course is going to play really. SIMILARLY i think
Speaker 3: the sort of the elephant in the room maybe is
Speaker 3: that we just talked about speF like slapping it, around
Speaker 3: hitting it way offline and getting away with. It And
Speaker 3: brokedale has a reputation for being like short and straight,
Speaker 3: Hitters so squaring, that how do you square? THAT i
Speaker 3: think the biggest thing for me after playing it and
Speaker 3: then Watching speed get away with. Stuff a he did
Speaker 3: get away with some stuff that you wouldn't always get away.
Speaker 3: With he got lucky with some with where some of
Speaker 3: the shots ended. Up but but BE i think what
Speaker 3: you really can't do With brickdale is be long and.
Speaker 3: Wild you can't just go out there and bomb it
Speaker 3: and spray. It And speed wasn't.
Speaker 2: That, No, No.
Speaker 3: He's hitting like some woods off of some, teas a little,
Speaker 3: crooked and he was getting a little.
Speaker 2: Lucky but he didn't hit a lot of. Drive there
Speaker 2: wasn't a ton of drivers on the front, nine for, sure.
Speaker 3: There's not so so golf course take Like bryson can't
Speaker 3: go out there in the wind and just hit driver
Speaker 3: around Every he will get into some real trouble if
Speaker 3: he does. That SO i think the type of golfer
Speaker 3: the rewards is somebody who probably, yes is very accurate
Speaker 3: off the. Tee it's not somebody who gains their advantage
Speaker 3: from bombing it. Around a bomber who's not necessarily that.
Speaker 3: Straight that's not going to help you a ton At.
Speaker 3: Birkdale you just have to be a scorer whose strength.
Speaker 3: Comes you just got to keep it in play off
Speaker 3: the tee and then be a scorer from. There AND
Speaker 3: i think in a lot of ways that's Who speed
Speaker 3: was at the, time and that's also Who Matt coucher
Speaker 3: was at the. Time does that make Sense, yep, Absolutely
Speaker 3: Like fleetwood is an amazing, prototype AND i think it's
Speaker 3: kind of interesting that he comes out of that, area
Speaker 3: like From, southport short and, straight great ball. Striker the
Speaker 3: greens do not break like the greens do not. Break
Speaker 3: they're very easy to.
Speaker 2: PUT i feel like on the broadcast they tried to
Speaker 2: talk about like. Swainers you, know all this is A.
Speaker 2: Swain it's a big, swing but, yes you didn't see
Speaker 2: it that.
Speaker 3: MUCH a Little they've got a little movement in, them
Speaker 3: but they but they largely don't.
Speaker 2: Break, YEAH i.
Speaker 3: Was, curious what is what are your you know you're
Speaker 3: going there next, week what what's your excitement level for the?
Speaker 3: Tournament what you? Know kind of were you.
Speaker 2: Mentally medium media.
Speaker 3: About any player related stuff that's interesting OR.
Speaker 2: I will talk about it on the, Preview BUT i
Speaker 2: don't have a golf course. Stake i'm still Like i've
Speaker 2: got this Booklet i'm going through all the. CHANGES i,
Speaker 2: MEAN i wouldn't say it's LIKE i think it's got
Speaker 2: a great rolodex of, champions but every open venue does
Speaker 2: almost at this point because they've had it's been a,
Speaker 2: limited sub limited, field limited set of, venues and they've
Speaker 2: had them for one hundred and fifty. YEARS a lot
Speaker 2: of times you're gonna have good. WINNERS i. DON'T i
Speaker 2: don't Have i'm not gonna say it's, indistinguishable but like
Speaker 2: the one THING i, like it has this reputation for
Speaker 2: being like kind of this like it's good for the.
Speaker 2: Fans it's a good fans course because everything's up on
Speaker 2: The the holes are all just in between the, dunes,
Speaker 2: right and then you can kind of stack on the
Speaker 2: side of the dunes and. WATCH i don't, KNOW i
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't. KNOW i don't. KNOW i don't want
Speaker 2: to go too far into the course here at the
Speaker 2: end of the pod of the. Watchback but my, age
Speaker 2: my excitement level is like medium on the golf course
Speaker 2: side of. Things maybe that changes next week AFTER i
Speaker 2: walk all eighteen, holes but, YEAH i, mean this was
Speaker 2: this was one of the where would you rate this
Speaker 2: like watch this, major, like is it one of the
Speaker 2: more memorable? Ones is it one of THE i think
Speaker 2: it's one of the more memorable recent opens because of
Speaker 2: the imagery of, it right in the fact that it
Speaker 2: was a pretty, popular famous. Winner was it exciting for
Speaker 2: you and does that have anything to do with the golf?
Speaker 2: Course probably.
Speaker 3: Not, YEAH i think it's one of the most memorable
Speaker 3: ones of recent. History but to your, point not through
Speaker 3: the first twelve, holes like that was a little bit
Speaker 3: of a slog of a. WATCH i feel like With,
Speaker 3: birkedale like the tour players love, it love it very.
Speaker 2: Fair my thing is like it feels like kind of
Speaker 2: is known as like being more of a like it's
Speaker 2: ready for the, pros the kind of, thing, right and
Speaker 2: it's not this big curveball venue that we might get somewhere.
Speaker 3: Else, yeah on the road to WHAT i will, say
Speaker 3: having played it last week and no one cares about
Speaker 3: my golf game like, That i'm not bringing it up
Speaker 3: to talk about HOW i. Played Like i'm a fine,
Speaker 3: Player i'm pretty good ball striker WHEN i have it,
Speaker 3: going and it was so, hard LIKE i played it
Speaker 3: in the prevailing, wind like twenty five mile hour wind
Speaker 3: and that was really. FUN i played really well and
Speaker 3: it was the shots are really really, hard AND i
Speaker 3: think that part of it is, appealing like, that if
Speaker 3: you hit a bad t, shot it's a real. Problem
Speaker 3: AND i think that's part of what the, guys the
Speaker 3: pro or like about. It not comparing myself to a tour,
Speaker 3: player but that was part of the. Appeal it's like
Speaker 3: you're hitting shots and. Wind there's a real penalty for
Speaker 3: hitting something. Offline AND i think, PEOPLE i think a
Speaker 3: lot of people in like the golf architecture, crowd there's
Speaker 3: a diversity of, opinions but would probably rate this pretty
Speaker 3: low on the. Road, yeah BUT i honestly like. IT
Speaker 3: i think IT'S i think it's a great. TEST i
Speaker 3: think there's more variety then maybe it comes across ON.
Speaker 3: TV i don't think it's like a brilliantly designed golf,
Speaker 3: course BUT i think it's.
Speaker 2: Good all, right all, right, well we're looking forward to.
Speaker 2: It we'll see if we get a a version that's
Speaker 2: worth looking back on nine years, ago nine years from
Speaker 2: now for this, podcast or.
Speaker 3: You need to go to. This you need to go
Speaker 3: to the spif dune and report back to the. People
Speaker 3: if you think that straight back online gets you to
Speaker 3: where he took a? DROP i really think you should
Speaker 3: go do.
Speaker 2: That has this been like widely discussed or written about
Speaker 2: or publicized or you, know debated in any corner of
Speaker 2: the dark web or otherwise.
Speaker 3: A little bit LIKE i texted with a couple people
Speaker 3: in golf media over the years who are, like, oh,
Speaker 3: yeah that's a questionable one if that should have come straight,
Speaker 3: back which is on the rules official not. SPEED i
Speaker 3: know the speed fans are going to think we're being
Speaker 3: really disrespectful throughout this, Pod So i'm not trying to we.
Speaker 2: ARE i thought we called, them you, know one of
Speaker 2: the better performances ever given what was.
Speaker 3: THAT i don't slapping it around all day and questioning that's.
Speaker 3: True it is, true AND i think it's reasonable to
Speaker 3: question the Drop brendon report. BACK i really don't think
Speaker 3: if you go straight back on the line with the,
Speaker 3: flag you drop where he.
Speaker 4: Did, OKAY i think you're still in the, dunes in
Speaker 4: The schmutz and the high. Stuff, okay go take a look. Interesting,
Speaker 4: Interesting all?
Speaker 2: Right well that does it for this special look back
Speaker 2: at the twenty Seventeen Open. Championship very excited to do
Speaker 2: it again At. Burkedale get over. There you're going to
Speaker 2: be covering it for the newsletter. Podcast you'll be On
Speaker 2: shotgun next week jumping. IN i think you're On sunday
Speaker 2: night After scott to showup and as. Well so this
Speaker 2: is great watching back with, You. Joseph appreciate all your
Speaker 2: insight and time doing. It so we will talk to
Speaker 2: you guys next week or. Whenever if you're listening to
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