1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to the very first episode of Always Hungry 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: from My Heart Radio. My name is Bobby Flay, and 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm here with my daughter and co host Sophie. Hi. There, 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm Sophie Flay. What's up? Everybody? So excited to be here, 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: But I am feeling a little hungry. Well, don't worry 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: about that. I'll be cooking in a minute. So but first, 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: let's explain to everybody what they've been here on this podcast. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: All right, good idea. So you're my dad, Bobby Flay, 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: the Iron Chef, also known as super Chef. Yeah, I 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: would like you to continue to refer to me as 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: that from here on in. Sophie, thank you very much. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I am a chef group in New York City, 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, my whole life. I'm gonna approach this podcast 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: from my perspective being someone you know from a different 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: generation than you. But that's enough about me. Why don't 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: we tell everybody about you? Let's do it all right? 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: So you know food, you know growing up in my household, 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: and you aren't exactly a professional cook, but everybody should 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: know that you're actually a community journalist here in l A. 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: That's right. I'm a community journalist at ABC seven Los Angeles. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: So I'll be bringing a local reporters perspective and the 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: perspective of a much younger generation, and I'll try to 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: teach you a thing or two along the way, all right, bringer, 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: So in each episode of Always Hungry, we will pick 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: one single theme, will cook a recipe based on that theme, 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: and then we'll sit down at the table together and 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: eat and discuss. Some of those themes will be as 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: simple as a specific dish like burgers or tacos, but 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: other themes will be larger concepts, like travel stories or 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: what makes a good restaurant. And today, for our first episode, 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: our theme is getting dressed up. Let's do it? Sounds good. 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Let's head to the kitchen. Okay, so what are we 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: doing to that. We're gonna make a potato pancakes with 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: tramp fresh and caviar and smoke. Stand. This is a 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: dish that I made you for New Year's Eve. It's 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: a very highbrow dish because there's caviar and stuff like that. 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: But and you don't actually have to do that, But like, 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something a little bit sort of 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: like fancy, because we're talking about like getting dressed up 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: for dinner and the sort of idea behind what that 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: really means. So basically what I'm doing here, I have 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: a potato and Idaho potato that I'm grading on like 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: a cheese grated on the big eyes. If you notice, 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm grading it into a kitchen towel. You get the moisture. Well, 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to squeeze out all the water content so 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: we can make these potato pancakes nice and crispy. So, yes, 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: the moisture exactly, you're right. So we wrap it up 48 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: in the towel and then basically we just like squeeze 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: it out. You can see, like you see all the 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: juice coming way through the towel. You want to dry 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: out the potato as much as you can. Okay, I'm 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: tired to work out. I've never seen that before. So 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: then we'll put the drained out potato in a bowl 54 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: and then an egg just like making. You know, the 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Jewish culture they call these lattas their potato pancakes. So 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: then I'm using some flour. This is actually Wondrouf flour, 57 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: which is like flour that's already even steamed and it 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: just dissolves really well, and then some salt and pepper, 59 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and that's basically it. I'm going to mix this up. 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Is this how you would make like a potato latka? Yeah, 61 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: it's like the same thing. And you said that, I 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: didn't hear you said. Oh no, I didn't hear you 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: said the Jewish culture. Oh oh sorry, no, I literally didn't. 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back today we're talking about I'm sure if the 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: right word is etiquette, but the approach to getting dressed 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: up when you go out to dinner or lunch. You know, 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: you go to a restaurant, like what do you wear? 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it depends on a lot of things. 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: So it depends on how formal the restaurant is, like 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: where you are in the world, yes, right, and then 71 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, time of day definitely lunch, dinner, late night, 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: so I'll go first. Okay, what are you laughing at? 73 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Why are you laughing? Because you know, because you know 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this. Yeah, okay, I do 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. So I mean, for you, 76 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: what's the difference between like really dining out, getting an 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: experience and just like going out for a bite to eat. 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: You're talking about this like putting on a suit, having 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: this whole experience dressing up. But we would not do 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the same if we went to melons or something like that. 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, of course, if if if all of a sudden, like, 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: oh are you hungry? Yeah, I'm hungry, let's go get something. 83 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: What do you want to cheeseburger? Okay, that's one thing. 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you wear. Probably not. I think 85 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: that you know a reservation that you made weeks in advance, 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: it's a special occasion, it's somebody's birthday, or you have 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: like a really really like important date, or even a 88 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: business dinner. I think that that's that's an occasion, and 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I think that those occasions should be highlighted by what 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: you wear. You know. What's funny is like, I remember 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: distinctly we used to go on these father daughter trips 92 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: to Europe, which were great growing up. And I remember 93 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: distinctly one of our trips. I was like wearing spot 94 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: pants on the plane, and you were like, I can't 95 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: believe you're wearing spat pants on the plane, is what 96 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I said to you. Yes, I was like what you 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: were like, I just wouldn't dress like that on a plane. 98 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, you have got to be getting 99 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: me that you're shaving of you from wearing spot pants 100 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: on the wall. It wasn't. I just know, I know, parenting, 101 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: it's called I know. But I think that you're also 102 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: something that's like a great about you is and you're 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: very modern, but you have like a classic mindset about 104 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: certain things, like you love to get dressed up. You 105 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: love to wear a nice suit, like if you're going 106 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: on a date, you get dressed up. You know that 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Like, yeah, I was not You're not 108 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: laid back in that sense. I literally think that I 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: should have lived in a different era like the forties 110 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: and fa I mean seriously, because I like wearing really 111 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: classic beautiful clothing and you can and I have to 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: make excuses to find experiences to do it, you know 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like in the winter in New York, 114 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: like I love wearing like an amazing fedor right, yes 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: you do, yes you yes, sir, Yes you do. I'm sorry, 116 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: that's that, you know, that's what's happening. But you know 117 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: what I would love to get dressed up for is 118 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: like a dining experience with a guy who's doing like 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: live jazz or like someone who's doing a great like 120 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra Netslee sort of thing. Okay, so those are 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: like supper clubs and they don't exist anymore. And that's 122 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Like, that's the era I wanted 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: to live in, right, you know, we're like it's Friday 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: night and you're going through the supper club and you're 125 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna have dinner at this table, and you're gonna like 126 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: tip the matri d for a good table because he 127 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: knows you. I mean, it's a whole thing. It's like 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And then like and then this great 129 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: band or a band leader or whatever comes out and 130 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: sings jazz or as a crooner or something like that. 131 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's Frankie Valley or it's Frank Sinatra or 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: so the that doesn't exist anymore, right, so listen, it's 133 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: just people don't do it. Yeah, I would love to 134 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: do something like that. Yeah, that's so um like marvelous 135 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: mismaisl totally. Well, that's exactly right. I mean, look at 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: the clothes in that show, spectacular exactly. Yeah. I try 137 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: to get those old school experiences that I talk about today. 138 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: The place that I really like to go is the 139 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Grill because it feels old school but New. I mean, 140 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: it's a very famous place. It's it's in the Seagram's Building, 141 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: which is the actual restaurant itself is landmarked, so there's 142 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: only so many things you can do to it. And 143 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: even though there's a new restaurant in there called The Grill, 144 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like table side service. The captains or 145 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: a tuxedos. You know, they're are buttoned up. They serve 146 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: like sort of French style. They did a lot of 147 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: table side stuff. And when I go there, the first 148 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: thing I do before I sit down is I go 149 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: to the bar and I order a perfect martini. Okay, 150 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to have the quintessential New York experience, So 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the martini that I'm gonna go 152 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: to my table and I'm going to have a spectacular 153 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: dinner and it's gonna be long, and it's gonna be fun, 154 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna be dressed up, except so the guys 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: next to me. We were wearing T shirts but at 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: my table, like we're living in the Roaring twenties. Yeah. Well, actually, 157 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: you know there's a spot here in l A called Delilah. 158 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: Have you ever been there? No, it's an a wood 159 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Group restaurant. You know, it kind of like turns into 160 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: a club bar like later as the night goes on. 161 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: But they do have live jazz and amazing performers and 162 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: like you know, these beautiful feather costumes. It it's very 163 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: much Roaring twenties esque. But yeah, they do a great 164 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: job of capturing that, you know. I think it's like 165 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: Tudayas and Sunday's Day of Life jazz. It's super fun. 166 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. A restaurant is many things. You know, 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: as a chef, I always want the food to be 168 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: the most important thing in a person's experience. The bottom line, Sophie, 169 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: is that service is much more important to people than 170 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the food. So if you have a great meal and 171 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: bad service, people aren't coming back. If you have great 172 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: service and mediocre food, they tend to come back more 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: as if somebody who cooks for a living. I hate that, 174 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: but that's the truth. Yeah. So obviously food and service 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: and the ambiance design, all those things play into an experience, 176 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,359 Speaker 1: and I think that when you're going to a restaurant, 177 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I think it behooves you to think about, you know, 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: how are you going to address to play the part 179 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: in that role at night, you know, in a way 180 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: I want to know what you want to know what 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: your sound track is. What's my soundtrack to your movie? 182 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: It's got It's definitely some Frank Sinatra to start funny. Yeah, 183 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna move on to Jay Z okay, okay, and 184 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: then we're one of the club. Okay. So we have 185 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: a pan, a good amount of oil. It's starting to 186 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: smoke a tiny bit. And then what you do is 187 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: you put like a little spoonful of the potato mixture 188 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: in the pan and then you press it down with 189 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: the back of the spoon and so it gets thinner. 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: You want your pan to be hot. You want your 191 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: painting pretty hot because we want the potatoes to brown, right. Yeah, 192 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: And it's just a few ingredients. You can make these 193 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: at home. This is great. You can just put our 194 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: cream on top of them, or so the apple sauce. 195 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: This is like a Christmas New Year's Yeah, this is 196 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a really fun or very festive. I think I remember 197 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: eating a bunch of these on your usine. Well I 198 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: can't remember. Yeah, for other reasons. Okay, So basically what 199 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: you want to see here now, if you notice you 200 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: can see like right around the edges, they're starting to 201 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: get crispy, so to get brown. And that's what you want. Obviously, 202 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: you don't want the potatoes to cook threw so we 203 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: can turn the heat down after we flip them over. 204 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: See that, Yes, that's what you want. I mean, you 205 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: want that nice, that nice crispy edge, so that when 206 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: you bite into the smoked salmon, the crame fresh and 207 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: the caviarts on this great vehicle. This crispy potato. It's 208 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: like a little potato chit, yeah, but better. But like 209 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: I was in a restaurant which was formerly the Four 210 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Seasons restaurant. This is a very very buttoned up, midtown expensive, 211 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: you know, beautiful service restaurant, and there were people just 212 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: like in T shirts sitting there and like, listen, if 213 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: that's the why they want to express themselves, be my guest. 214 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: I just to me, it doesn't match the experience. I 215 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: get that. But also people are just dressing more casual 216 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: these days. You know, I live mostly in New York City. 217 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: You live in Los Angeles, and the difference the way 218 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: people get dressed here. I mean everybody wears sneakers to dinner. Well, 219 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: everyone wear sneakers everywhere, everywhere so it's sneakers, jeans, and 220 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: a T shirt and maybe like a little bomber jacket. Yeah, okay, 221 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: nobody's putting on a suit. Nobody's putting on a tigh 222 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: every I mean, you never see it. When we were 223 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: thinking about this episode, one restaurant that came to mind 224 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: that I thought to look up that they have a 225 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: location in New York. They have location in l A. 226 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: It's Catch, the restaurant Catch, and I looked on the 227 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: website to see if they had a dress code because 228 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: there's only so many places I feel like that actually do, 229 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: but Catch does. We kindly ask our guests to abide 230 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: by this smart casual dress code of Catch restaurants. No 231 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: beach wear, athletic tops, T shirts or sweatpants, casual shorts, 232 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: flip flops, excessively revealing clothing. Okay, I understand exactly what 233 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. They're trying to like have some decorum. 234 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: Now at the same time, it's casual decorum. They're not 235 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: telling people you have to wear a jacket and tie 236 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: to come to Catch. What they're saying is, don't make 237 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: believe you're coming from the beach to come here, right, 238 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: have you ever had a dress code at any of 239 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: your restaurants, not specifically, do I want people just wearing 240 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: tank tops, shorts and flip plops in my restaurant? I 241 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: probably don't. When I asked them to kindly leave, I 242 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: don't think I would. Okay, Well, let me ask you this. 243 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: You're about to open a brand new restaurant in Las Vegas, 244 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: very exciting. Are you going to have a dress code? 245 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Is there a way you'd like people to dress? Okay? 246 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: So that's a great question, and actually it's an interesting 247 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: conversation for this particular restaurant. The restaurants called the Malfie, 248 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: so clearly it's about the Amalfi Coast. So if you've 249 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: been to the Amalfi Coast, or if you know anything 250 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: about the Amalfi Coast, you understand that it's very warm 251 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: weather destination. It's right on the tiering ec and people 252 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: addressed in bathing suits and linen you know, really sort 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: of very smart so to speak, linen shirts, and you 254 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: know they're in shorts but life shorts. No, seriously, you know, 255 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: I like, there's a lot of style on the Amalfi Coast, 256 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: but it's very casual style, and you know, people are 257 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: gonna be drinking apparel spritses and Campari spritses, and and 258 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: the restaurant is designed with that sort of feeling in mind. 259 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: We're trying to provoke the Amoufie coast in the middle 260 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: of Caesar's Palace. I mean, it's gonna happen. And that's 261 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: That's the great thing about places like Caesar's Palaces Vegas 262 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: is they bring your fantasy to life. And so obviously 263 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: it's my job. One of my jobs is to make 264 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: sure that you know, you're getting that feeling through the food. 265 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a lot of like fish and pastas, 266 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: and it's gonna feel casual but buttoned up. And so 267 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe that's the dress code casual were buttoned up. When 268 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: people say how should we dress, that's the first thing 269 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: just came to mind. So maybe that's what it is. 270 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: Just like what does that mean to you? Though? It 271 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: means that like where your best your buttoned down pink 272 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: salmon no no, no, no, no no no. Like I 273 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: think at the very high end of it, sports jacket 274 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: and you know, a college shirt and you could be 275 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: wearing chinos, or you can be wearing a great pair 276 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: of jeans. You could be wearing eakers. You could be 277 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: wearing a great pair of shoes, sort of like resort 278 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: were going out at night, you know for the ladies. 279 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe they're wearing like a great summer dress or something. 280 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, you tell me. I mean, here's 281 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: the thing. It's also a Vegas like people have their 282 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Vegas outfits and they want to flaunt them. I totally 283 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: get it. Whatever you want to eat, pasta and fishing, 284 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: that's where you should come. That's a pretty good dress code. 285 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: You always cook things so fast. Yeah that might sound stupid, 286 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: but you like tend to skip a lot of steps. 287 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: I feel like to make things just quicker. No, I'm 288 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: less skipping steps. What I'm doing is I'm using your knowledge. No, 289 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: it's not just the knowledge. What happens is I'm multitasking 290 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: things you're not even seeing, right, And that means that 291 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing a bunch of things all at the same time. 292 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: Where a lot of people, like a home cook, might 293 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: do things in succession, I'm doing things all at the 294 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: same time. That also means that I get the food 295 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: out faster. Also, I use every pot in the house, right. 296 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: You do creative masks, they're like golden brown. Yeah, that's 297 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: the cake. When you're making these potato pancakes or these 298 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: laca is, if the oil isn't hot enough, two things 299 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: are gonna happen. Number one, it's not gonna get brown, 300 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be soggy. And also, if the oil is 301 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: not hot enough, it doesn't repel away from the potato. 302 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: It becomes part of the potato. So then they get creasy. 303 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: It okay, all right, And then you want to take 304 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: a paper towel and you just want to use to 305 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: drain some of the oil for a second. But while 306 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: they're still warm, what do you do? What do you 307 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: what would you do right now while they're still warm salt? 308 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Because what happens is this is like for French fries 309 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: or potato chips or potato pancakes, the oil is going 310 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: to hold onto the salt while it's still warm. And 311 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: now they're seasons. Okay, let those cool down for a 312 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: second and then we can start put them together. When 313 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: I take a trip to Europe, for instance, if I'm 314 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: in Rome or Barcelona or Paris or something like that, 315 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I specifically bring suits. I get dressed up for every meal, 316 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: which is an unusual thing. For somebody who's a tourist 317 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: to do, especially American tourist, they're very very casually or 318 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: even when they travel. You use it as like an opportunity. 319 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I use it as an opportunity to get dressed. And 320 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: also it's almost like living the movie of your life. 321 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: I want to fantasize that I'm actually living in that 322 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: city and as a local, because a lot of locals 323 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: do that in places like in Europe, they get dressed 324 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: up just to go have lunch. And I always think 325 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: that you can never be overdressed. You can be underdressed. 326 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: It's really hard to be overdressed. I love the idea 327 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: of going to lunch in a great suit in some 328 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: European city or even in the United States, I mean 329 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: for sure in New York City or Los Angeles, whatever 330 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: it is, and like having, you know, having a great 331 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: bottle of wine and having a wonderful lunch and sharing 332 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: it with somebody that either care about or your business 333 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: lunch or whatever it is. I just love that that's 334 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: a rarity these days. I love the term dressed smart. 335 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? Business casual? Here's the thing. 336 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: When you say something like that, it's very open to interpretation. 337 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: Dress smart to me, and you could be very very 338 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: different things. I think what they're trying to say is 339 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: be sensible and have some respect, respect to to the 340 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: establishment and speaking the people around you. I mean, I 341 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: think that that's really what it comes down to. But also, 342 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know, Like I love wearing a suit. 343 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I love wearing a blazer. Yeah, I love it. I 344 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: love a good tailored suit. When we go to like 345 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: some big horse races something and we have lots of people, 346 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm always in a suit, yeah, and so is everybody else, 347 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: and we're still having a good time. For some reason, 348 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: people think that if you get too dressed up, you're 349 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: taking the fun out of it. To me, it's the opposite. 350 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: When I totally agree. So when I'm dressed up, I 351 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: feel like I'm about to have a good time. Like 352 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's right. Yeah, no, I I totally agreed. Well, 353 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I love clothes, and I don't get 354 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: ample opportunities in my everyday life to put a really 355 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: great suite gone. I have a bunch of suits that 356 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: I like. I like shopping for them and I like 357 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: wearing them, and I try to find opportunities to wear 358 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: them because usually I'm in my chef code or an 359 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: apron or some jeans and you know, I'm cooking in 360 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: a kitchen somewhere, or I'm wearing a plaid shirt on 361 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: beet Bobby Flay, which everybody makes everybody makes fun of 362 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: before that a thing. Are you kidding? You get that 363 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: feedback people say to me there's no plaid shirts left 364 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: in the world because you have them. All, Oh my god, 365 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: that's so funny. Well, yeah, they're right. So just that 366 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: so everybody understands. Like, I have a person who helps 367 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: me with wardrobe named Courtney who's been with me forever, 368 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: and we have this conversation all the time. I kind 369 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: of make fun of herm like how did you find 370 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: yet another shirt for me to wear? And her her 371 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: thing is like, look, you're a guy in his fifties 372 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: and you're in casual wear to do this show, Like 373 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: what other things that you think you're gonna wear? You know, 374 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: it's like we've done, We've done the Henley's T shirts. 375 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: Look kind of sloppy. Phase. Yeah, okay, I didn't have 376 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: a best phase. So God, I felt the funniest photo 377 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: of you and you were young, you must have been 378 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: like your twenties and you're wearing these like striped overalls. 379 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm talking about and chilling. Yeah, 380 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: that was the worst shot of grilling and chilling. Okay, 381 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: So first of all, stop like looking for stuff. Okay, 382 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: by the way, that sounds me Okay, congratulations. Anyway, we're 383 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: not talking about this, We're talking about something else. What's 384 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: the salmon situation here? So the salmon situation, so we 385 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: have some grave blocks here, which is cured salmon um. 386 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: You could use smoked salmon. I think that grave blocks 387 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: is a really good way to go, especially with something 388 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: like caviare, because you know, if it's a very strong 389 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: smoked salmon, you'll blow it out of the water. So 390 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: you want something kind of mild. Has dill on. It's 391 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: very beautiful. I love the dill on the smoked salmon. Yeah, 392 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: but that's a very classic cured salmon ingredient. And then 393 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: some crime fresh of course, and then and then caviare. 394 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: So basically, you know we're gonna lay this, so we 395 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: go potato pancakes, salmon creme fresh, and then a little 396 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: dollar of the caviar on the top. I mean, the 397 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: caviar is really sort of a luxury. And you know, 398 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: if you don't like caviar, you still't feel like eating it. 399 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean you could stop with the salmon and the 400 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: crime fresh so good, yeah, delicious, And we could put 401 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: some chives on here if we want to see but 402 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: I think we're not going to do we use the 403 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: whole little jar of caviar. We're fancy today. There you go, 404 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: so pretty, so fancy. It will be a hundred dollars. 405 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: I can promise you this. I didn't invent this dish, 406 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: but I love making it so good. Yeah, yeah, alright, 407 00:20:52,760 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: let's go get trusted. When you go about the dinner 408 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: in a nice restaurant, what do you think about were 409 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: you going after dinner? Yeah, what the schedule of the 410 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: night is. But I don't know, Like I don't wear 411 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: a lot of high heels, Like I just don't. Why not? 412 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: What's the reasoning? Comfort? Comfort? And also like upscale streets 413 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: style is so in right now? How do you describe 414 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: that upscale style? I guess upscale is based on brand, 415 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: but expensive street style. I mean, if I don't spend 416 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: a lot of money designer brands, that's not really my thing. 417 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: But so if you were going to address me in 418 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: street style? What would it be? Oh, I wouldn't hiding 419 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: you in the glosst Sophie style? What I address you? 420 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: You used to like to hang out with me. You 421 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: know that I love hanging out with you. Just we 422 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: just you know, we have boundaries. Okay, I know my place, 423 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: you know yours. I don't know, Like, if I'm going 424 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: out to a nice dinner, I'd probably wear like boots, 425 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: like a boot with like a heel. Yeah, but I 426 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: wear a lot of sneakers. I love sneakers. I love 427 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: sneaker culture. Like that's I'm to um. Yeah, Sometimes I 428 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: go to Kith. I really like the app Goat. It's 429 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: like a specialty sneaker app. There's not one place in particular. 430 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: So you're not throwing on a dress. You're not throwing 431 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: a little black dress. Maybe I am, But I can 432 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: wear that with sneakers. Interesting. Yeah, And do you feel 433 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: like you dressed differently than now that you live in 434 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: Los Angeles versus we used to live. No, I think 435 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I dressed pretty similarly. I grew up in Fairfield, that's 436 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: such a preppy town, and I really wanted to be 437 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: good at dressing preppy. And I never was. I always 438 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: gravitated more towards like New York or l A, like 439 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time in New York too, 440 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, But yeah, I probably wouldn't wear sneakers to 441 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: like catch or like mast rows. But I don't know. 442 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past me. It's just different. It's 443 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: just different. Like if you were going to lunch in Italy, 444 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: you wanted to dress up right, like you would wear 445 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: a suit, but you might also wear sneakers. Well, yeah, 446 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: because that's sort of the fashion of the moment, people 447 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: wearing sneakers with Oh you know what you said to me, 448 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: You were like, if you go to sushi, what do 449 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: you wear? Yeah, well exactly. Let's just run through a 450 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: couple of ideas, Like I want to hear more about 451 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: what somebody in your position, you know, you go out 452 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: on dates or you go out with friends, you're in 453 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: your mid twenties, you live in this fun city, Like 454 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: sushi is a big deal, right, Like people like go 455 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: out to sushi a lot. I guess we do. Yeah, 456 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: if you do, like omakase, that's a little bit more 457 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: dressed up, right, But like you're more likely to find 458 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: me at Kasunori and at the sushi bar. Kazunori is 459 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: the place that you took me. Yes, okay, So if 460 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: you go to Kazunori with your dad, yes, versus going 461 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: out with your girlfriends to Nobu, you're dressing differently, yes, okay, 462 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: take me through it. If I'm going to if I'm 463 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: going to Kasunori with you, I'm wearing you don't bring 464 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: your wallet? Oh my god. I politely offer and you 465 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: push my card away just definit way I never happened. Never. Um, 466 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm wearing jeans and a T shirt, 467 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe a sweater, maybe like a leather jacket, sneakers for sure. 468 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to know Boo with the girls, which I 469 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know where we're getting the money for that. It's 470 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: a special locage. Somebody's birthday's Whitney's birthday, right, we are 471 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: probably wearing the same thing. No, well no, I mean 472 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: we're getting like a little more dressed up. Like I 473 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: feel like I'm always wearing jeans, like in some capacity, 474 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: like a black jean maybe like a blouse, crop top situation, 475 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: leather jacket and like black booties. So really, anytime you're 476 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: like going out with your girls like in l A 477 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: for instance, Like if you went to Best to you 478 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: you'd be wearing the same thing. Yeah, I mean I 479 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: think you could probably be a little more casual there. 480 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm not really a dress girl. 481 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I really want to be a dress girl, but I 482 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: just I don't know. It's just really not me. But 483 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: you have such great style. Thanks. I think are dressed 484 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: up is not so so different from our every day 485 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's just a lot of black. Yeah, it's 486 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: not a lot of color. I'm not wearing a lot 487 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: of color and wearing a lot of black, a lot 488 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: of black, white and blue. All right. Well, on that note, 489 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: were we going to dinner tonight? No boo on you? 490 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Sounds good to me, yellow Tail, let's get at it. 491 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: Always Hungry is created by Bobby Flay and Sophie Flay. 492 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Christopher hasiotis. Always Hungry is produced, edited, 493 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: and mixed by Jonathan Haws Dressler. Always Hungry is engineered 494 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: by Sophie Flay. Sophie, you engineered this. You bet you 495 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: couldn't even plug in a microphone without me. That's so true. Uh. 496 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from My Heart Radio, don't ask me 497 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: to hook it up. Visit the I heart Radio app, 498 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 499 00:25:50,520 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sophie for gonna say five three