1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien, I had a wild week. I like, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: holy cow, you know, everything was just one roller coaster 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: after another this week. That Car Doctor any we you know, 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: buckets of water. We're trying to because we don't want 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: to fire exting wish because that just makes a bloody 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: mess out of everything. Welcome to the radio home of 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: are opening, but I am here to take your call 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six and now he running. Hey, 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines. Wanted any of the 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: car Doctor here at five zero nine zero zero. Let's 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: get together and talk about it. Whatever's going on fender 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: defender and door to door. This is the place to 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: be if you've got a car problem, We're gonna help 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: you solve it. More information at Car Doctor show dot com. 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: And thanks for taking time out of your busy weekend 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: or whenever you're listening to this show podcast or otherwise 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: or a live broadcast on your affiliate or however you're 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: taking it and spending some time with this with you. 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: We enjoy each and every one of you, We really do, 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: and we're glad to be here for you. Hello once 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: again to Mr Ray and Mr Tony. As I look 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: out across my control room window and see two of 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: the brightest minds in radio today occupying this space, would 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: you guys get out of the way so I can 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: see the picture of those two guys everyday, whether in 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: that picture hanging on the wall, because it can't be 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: you two guys. Um you know, so, Tony, put your 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: shoes back on. You don't need to count your toast 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: to know how many buttons you have to push. So 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: let's let's go over and kick open the phones. Tony, 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: can we go? Uh? You want introduce the next guest? 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: You do such a good job last hour? Next online 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: one is Al for Maine, Alfred Maine. That's it, just 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: is Alfred Maine. Can we get a little pizzas? Next 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: on the Car Doctor show? Is Mr Al for me? 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I like that? That was good, Alfred Maine. You're out 41 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: with the Car Doctor. How can I help you, sir? 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: How you're doing wrong? What's going on? What's cooking. No, 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: I had a two thousands, one four, one fifty coming 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: with a Most Soldier miss fire, and well, I had 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: a lot of trouble tracking this one down. UM started 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: poking around and found found plugs. You know, the plugs 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: are pretty dead, so replaced the plugs and uh, it's 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of tracking on the boots, but the 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: boots are in bad shaped with the guile interviews on 50 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: the loops and m carr ran find and they miss 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: fires and dump it on the way. Okay, so it 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: comes back and now it's that moment zone the minisfires, 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: but they're on different soulders. So I got looking around 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: again and UM taking a Tritest drive and it's doing 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the classic plug converter. Needed no power in a wide 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: open throttle, so don't get back in the shop. And 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I put my digital kilometer on it. And one cats 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: running really really hot, you know, two fifty. The other 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: one's cool. It was kind of one five. So I 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: tell the cust well, he's gonna have fast new cats 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: on so and he brings it to another shop and uh, 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: he had two pre cats too close cats, you know, 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: on the head of pipe. And he brought to another shop. 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: They've been a couple of fights for him and put two. 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Aftermacted cats on it and sent him on his way, 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: he comes back in and he's got just about episode 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: in this fire. I guess, so, um, I did what 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have anybody to do, but I pulled the 69 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: fuel rails and uh unplugged all the coils and looked 70 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: at the actual fuel coming out of the n actors 71 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: and uh, a lot of them just didn't look like. 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: It was not a nice cone, you know, it was 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: it was sporadic, uh fuel. As I said, well, you're 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to have some fuel injectors. So we get 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the injectives and like that brings out one of the 76 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: injectives and he's looking inside him and he says, what's 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: that And I said, what, I had to look at 78 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: it Russia. No, he's right, and he started digging it 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: out and it was granular sugar and that it was sugar. 80 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: All of the injectives were plugging with sugar. So this 81 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: is this is really a challenge because it's not something 82 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: that is something to expect, right, Yeah, it's it's different. 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: It's very different when you see this. This is one 84 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: of those is one of those cars that when you 85 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: when you get to the end and you haven't figured 86 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: it out yet, you go, what haven't I or what 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: don't I normally see? And that's always the answer. So 88 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: what was the end result? The end result was we 89 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: replaced the injectives and it runs fine. You know. We 90 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: replaced the fuel pump, replaced chilter, flush the tank, clubs 91 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: in it. What's adam, sorry, flushed the tank, you know, 92 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: flushed all then we did not flush the tank. The 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: tank was clean as a whistle or um. The fuel 94 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: felt that we replaced is really really bad. I mean 95 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: it was. It was really dirty, right, But that's that's 96 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Those are the type of things that would run into 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: sometimes that we just you don't expect. Let me let 98 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: me ask you this that what kind of scantil are 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: you using? I'm using a snap on modus? Okay, Um, 100 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: you're aware. I just I'm not trying to rub your 101 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: nose in it, but I just want to make sure 102 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: you're aware. There's you know, there's cylinder contribution tests in 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: that tool, right, I did not know that. Yeah, take 104 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: a look, because you run into another Ford for it's 105 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: pretty good. Ford does two things really well there's usually 106 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: a cylinder contribution test in factory software, and there's also 107 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: a cranking compression test in factory software. So there's some Yeah, 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: there's some really great things. So you get a FOURD 109 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: that's misfiring or not running on all the cylinders, or 110 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: you know it's got a shake to it and you 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: want to go through compression, or you want to go 112 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: through and I I D the cylinder quickly. There's usually 113 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: some form of a cylinder individual cylinder test, a cylinder 114 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: balance test, a power balanced test, and a cranking compression test. 115 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: The other thing I want to address is you had 116 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: said that the cat inlet temperature was two five degrees. 117 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's low. We'll see cats get up 118 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: as hot as four fifty to six hundred degrees on 119 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: on some stuff. We'll see newer things get up beyond that. 120 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: So when I when they brought me in the vehicle 121 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: back with these two half to market caps, Uh, we'll 122 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: get into it. Um. I got I got short of 123 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: the same thing, and I cut them both open um 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: because I didn't trust my brush. You gauge of the 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: one of them was empty. I mean, this thing was 126 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: just leading me. I am I think all the wrong directions. 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: But well, here's here's the point I was going to. 128 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of heat gun are you 129 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: using to determine cat temperature? Using one of the little 130 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: red dot the infrared type? Yes, yeah, watch those. I 131 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: actually don't use mine anymore. It's it's accurate, it's accurate, 132 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: but it's not accurate, all right. It it tends to 133 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: show you. I've I've had cases where you know, it'll 134 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: it'll show me a temperature reading and it's off by 135 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: two hundred degrees because it's not really centered on the dot. 136 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: It's not really where the dots pointing. I'll be pointing 137 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: it right at the pipe, and the the actual heat 138 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: sensor is missing and going past the pipe into something else. 139 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: So you know there there are some Yeah, no, there 140 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: are some heat guns out there. First of all, if 141 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: you've got a snap on guy, the thermal imager, it 142 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a snap on, But I happen 143 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: to have the snap on thermal imager gun and it 144 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: works really well. I like that. I like that tool, 145 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: all right. It's it's it's worth the money. But they 146 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: also make they also make infrared guns now that have 147 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: better Bull's eye accuracy for the uh. Um, you know, 148 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: whatever the target is that you're shooting it at, and 149 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: you may want to look at that. Um, So just 150 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: just be aware of that. The other thing you can 151 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: always do is tune. If you have a modus, take 152 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: a look at you're familiar with Mode six, I'm not. 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm not. I've so, you know, take a look at 154 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: Mode six. Do you belong to I A t N. 155 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm not right now, Okay, so you know, get back 156 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: to I A t N. Or there's some other places 157 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: you can find Mode six information. A t N dot 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: net has got some great references and resources for you know, 159 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: just other than the mechanics forums and the conversations that 160 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: go on there, but just good solid resource information from 161 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: the manufacturers. But you know, just look at Mode six. 162 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Get yourself a book from Mode six. Go look up 163 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Trulia, G Trulia, t r U G t r 164 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: U t r U g l i A Jerry Trulia. Uh. 165 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, the T S T Big events gonna 166 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: be coming up in March. You're gonna be there doing 167 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: a live broadcast. Try and get down to that. Get 168 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: some of Jerry's books on Mode six and some of 169 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: the other things he writes about. You know, mode six 170 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: is the basic language of how the computer determines whether 171 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: or not it has a fault. And it's in your 172 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: snap on scan tool. It's there, and it's it's it's 173 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: there for your use. You just have to learn how 174 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: to interpret it. Which is welcome, welcome to the business. Right. 175 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: Every day is a learning curve. Um. You know. But listen, 176 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: you you did a great job. I mean, you got 177 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: through a toughie. Um. I I just want to point 178 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: out that I think cylinder contribution and and I don't 179 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: want to you know, have hindsight, and you know, we 180 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: could have done it faster, but you know, using the 181 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: tool a little differently, you might have gotten to some 182 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: end results a little bit quicker, but you would have 183 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: ended up in the same place. But you learned something. 184 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: You went to misfire. You went to misfire school that week, right, Yeah, Yeah, 185 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: that's that's okay, brother, That's just the way it works. Listen. 186 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: A month ago, I went to a B s h 187 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: c U class on an o a expedition for two weeks, 188 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: but I figured it out. Uh, you know, it happens. 189 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: That's those are the ones that stay with you so, 190 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: but good job mane good joke. All right, thanks, I listen. 191 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you. Know, some of 192 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: the smartest people in the world fixed cars each and 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: every day and they get up the next day and 194 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: they do it again. So uh, you know it takes 195 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: a lot. Um anyway, I gotta go. Well, you have 196 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: a good you have a great rest of the afternoon, 197 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: and thanks for tuning in being part of the Car 198 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: Doctor family. Five five zero nine nine zero zero. I'm 199 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: running any in the Car Doctor, proud to be here 200 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: and happy to serve. I'll be back right after this 201 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: when you get keep Ron's number hand eight five five 202 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: five six zero nine zero zero for when you really 203 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: need advice on your car. Here's Rock. By the way, 204 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: I should point out in the next couple of weeks, 205 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: we um we have finished finally the Mactool diagnostic car. 206 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: We added the big big screen TV to it. I'm 207 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: sort of creating my own tools now. We we added 208 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: a UM, I don't know, it's got to be like 209 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: a thirty five or television screen is big because I'm 210 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: old and I can't see anything anymore. And we're gonna 211 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: interface that with some of the scan tools in the shops. 212 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: When we do the YouTube videos, you'll see it on 213 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: a big screen. We're gonna be shooting those. Oh, we 214 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: get some up there by you between now and March, 215 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: so you can look for that out on the Car 216 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Ace book page or on the YouTube channel. Make 217 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: sure you get out there and subscribe to either one. 218 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: And if you need me during the week, we're on 219 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: at Car Doctor show dot com. Let's go over to 220 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Jason beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. Jason, Welcome back, sir. What are 221 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: we working on today? What broke? Well? The Lexus is 222 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: still in the garage, but this time I have a 223 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: forward two thousand and ten Ford eight three fifty. Every 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: time I still or any time I put Guess in 225 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: the the van um, it's a rough start, and so 226 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I only figured out after the third time trying to 227 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: start it. If I under the gas cap, it starts. 228 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: So my wife drove from the no check engine. My 229 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: wife drove for a week or so and then check 230 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: in and I came on it's a pot fifty and 231 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: on my skin toy Luvid said fuel tank not leading vapor, 232 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: And so of course I go to Google and check 233 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: everything out. But um I got on some forward forms 234 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: and uh they said it could be the purge valve. 235 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean it's it's my problem, but I 236 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: just want to get your opinion before I dig into 237 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: this tomorrow. Do you do you and understand my question 238 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: is just just I want to know where we're at. 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Do you do you know what a perche valve is 240 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: or how it works? Um? I believe the vapor in 241 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: the tank, that's how it releases. As you're as you're 242 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: filling the tank with liquid, all that fumes has to 243 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: go somewhere, right, So they right? And actually it actually 244 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: pulls off off. It'll well depends on the system with 245 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: pull through the canister through the purge or through the 246 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: tank or it'll go right to the tank and work 247 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: its way that way. But yes, you are correct. So 248 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: what we're saying here is in essence on the engine 249 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: and I believe on this one. If you're standing in 250 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: front of the vehicle and we're to take off the 251 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: intake duct, you know where the throttle body goes. You 252 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: know what the throttle body is, right, I'm assuming? Um Okay, 253 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: so stand look at the throttle body, take off the 254 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: intake duct, the dipsticks on the right. The thermostat housing 255 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: is basically right in front of you. Just to the 256 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: left of the throttle body. You'll see um a short 257 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: hose a valve that it plugs into, and the other 258 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: side will be another hose that kind of disappears down 259 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the back. That's the purge valve. It's got an electrical 260 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: connector which I believe it's either a two or three 261 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: wire connector. All right, that's the purge valve. What what 262 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: what four fifty is generated by the most common fault 263 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: is that purge valve sticks in the open position, all right, 264 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: So they they they close the purge electrically and then 265 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: they open it at various times to purge the canister 266 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: or the tank depending on how the system, what vehicle 267 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about, is set up. And what it's doing 268 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: is the system is seeing the fuel tank pressure sensor 269 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: or the gas tank being pulled into a state of 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: vacuum on a constant basis, So it's setting a fourteen 271 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: fifty that it's you know, telling you, hey, something's wrong. 272 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Part of the reason why you may be getting the 273 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: rough start, you know, after you fill up, is if 274 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: the purge is open. What's gonna happen. It's gonna draw 275 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: a fuel, right right, it's gonna draw It's gonna draw 276 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: a fuel because at at when you started after a 277 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: fuel up, the purge would normally be closed. So there's 278 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: a pretty simple test, all right, if you can get 279 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: to it. Because it's a van, right, this is an 280 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: E three ff not an F three fifty. Okay, So 281 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: so once you identify the purge, and like I said 282 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: that that description is probably accurate to the degree, and 283 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with giving it to you that if you 284 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: find the not the side going to the throttle body 285 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that's the vacuum source, but the other side of the 286 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: purge valve all right there, that where the longer hoses, 287 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, thumb and four finger, grab the clips, depress them, 288 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: pop that hose off. If there's fuel in there, that's wrong. 289 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: All right, then we were onto something. But likely we're 290 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: not gonna see fuel. What's gonna happen is you're gonna 291 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: pop that line off. Put a rag there just in 292 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: case there's some spray. I'm just being cautious, all right, 293 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: and started up. Remember now, if you've got the intake 294 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: ducked off, you're gonna have to put the intake duck 295 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: back on, hook up the mass airflow censor and so forth. 296 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: But started up. If if you take your if you 297 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: take that hose off, that's the you know, feed coming 298 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: from the evapt part of the system, the tank or 299 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: the canister, and you put your finger over that nipple 300 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: with the engine running, and you've got vacuum there, that 301 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: that purge valve is open all right now. Now the 302 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: other the other part of this is disconnect disconnect this 303 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: purge valve electrically, because if that valve is disconnected electrically, 304 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: if it's unplugged and you've got vacuum there, noah, fans 305 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: or butts, that valve's bed all right, and you know, 306 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: let's yeah, I want to diagnose it properly before I 307 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: just presume asurge in case it could be something else. 308 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Right now, if you want to, if you want to 309 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: get a feel for how the system works, if you're 310 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: what are you what are you using for a scan tool? Oh? My, 311 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: it's some generic one I got from auto Parts. That's okay, Yeah, 312 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: that's okay. It should have an FTP or fuel tank 313 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: pressure sensor reading on it, which it might yeah, which 314 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: which I think is required by O b D two law. 315 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: Bring up the f TP and look at the FTP. 316 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: Look at the fuel tank pressure sensor reading. You'll you 317 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: should see it being pulled into a negative state, meaning 318 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: it's under vacuum. All right. You know there might be 319 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: two readings for the FTP, one of voltage reading, the 320 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: other being pressure or vacuum state. But let it watch it. 321 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: You'll see it being pulled into a negative state. That 322 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: means there's there's vacuum being pulled through the purge when 323 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: it's not supposed to. All right, So again, real quick, 324 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: find the purged, unplug it electrically, all right, disconnect the 325 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: feed side coming from the canister that longer hose and 326 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: started up you you're you're probably gonna find vacuum at 327 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: the canister purge, which means there's a purge problem there. 328 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: If it's not, then we gotta talk again. There's something else, 329 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: but sticky canisters and failed purge valves are the most common. 330 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: Make sure you get a good quality part to replace 331 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: with Jason, I appreciate it. Say how did Joe Namith? 332 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm run any in the car. Doctor, I'll be back 333 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: right after this. I got time right on the wall, 334 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: so you don't forget to call for car advice. Done right? 335 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero zero zero. Now back to row. Hey, 336 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: let's get on over and talk to Let's go talk 337 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: to Don and Wayne's Port, Pennsylvania. Donn you're out with 338 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? Ron, 339 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: it's a thousand five Yukon banaly um having in trouble. 340 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: When I get into it, turned the key, no starter, noise, 341 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: no nothing um on warm days fires right up. Now. 342 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: I went up on Google and I was looking around 343 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: on some YouTube videos and they're telling me that it's 344 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: a security problem. It shows a guy using this lock 345 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: button back and forth, opening door, slamming the door, and 346 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: then he turns the key. Sometimes I have set and 347 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: turned the key fifty times before that thing will catch 348 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: and do something. Do you ever hear this problem? Yeah, 349 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: that's and that's possible. So let me ask you this. 350 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: When it goes into the no no crank condition, right, 351 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: you'll turn you'll turn the key and nothing happens. Does 352 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: it have dash lights? They dimmed right off when I 353 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: turn the key, they dim right off. So you'll turn 354 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: the key, you'll turn the key to run as if 355 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: it was in run position. You'll have normal dash lights, 356 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: the red lights, check engine light abs so forth. Um, 357 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, warning lights. They'll all come on. You turn 358 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: the key to crank and they get dimm or they 359 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: go out, they go out, I'm sorry, And then you 360 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: release the key and they come back. Yes, all right, 361 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: So and then to get it started, you do what 362 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: you cycle the key twenty or forty or fifty times. Yeah, 363 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: or I'll use the remote lock lock the doors, unlocked them, 364 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: open the door, slammed the door. Sometimes it works, sometimes 365 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's intermittent. It doesn't happen every time. But 366 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: when it happens, like the morning cost me. I was 367 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: late for work and I decided to call you, Okay, 368 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: that's cool. I'm glad you did because the next deep 369 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: you would have been rubbing your belly and standing on 370 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: one leg trying to get this thing to start. And 371 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: we can't have that. It makes a spectacle in traffic. 372 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: So you know, he really, here's here's a case where 373 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: you really need a scan tool. Alright, some and I 374 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: don't mean it will b D two scan tool. The 375 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: very first thing we want to do is we need 376 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: to scan, to look to see do we have what 377 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: the computer sees as a theft event going on, all right? 378 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Or do we just have a plain old fashioned bad 379 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: starter and the internet's leading us down the wrong path? 380 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: Which is it all right? The fact that it's intermittent, 381 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: that it doesn't happen all the time, that it's temperature sensitive, 382 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't see where or how it could possibly be 383 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: a fuse related issue as far as a blown fuse, 384 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: And everybody always also talks about that. You know, I've 385 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: seen things with poor connections and fuse boxes, and I've 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: seen fuse boxes themselves do this. But in order to 387 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: get there, I've got to eliminate that it's a security fault. 388 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: So I would love to see this if we were 389 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: at the shop, I have a scan tool plugged in, 390 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: bring up the mobilizer or anti theft screens and rotate 391 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: the key from off to run to crank. And what 392 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: does the scan tools say? Does it report the same conditions? Um, 393 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: you know, as as as a position of the K 394 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: that's number one, number two? Are there any anti theft 395 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: or theft issue? False detected? It will set codes. Now, 396 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: keep in mind, and here's a perfect example of why 397 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: check engine lights aren't the be all and end all. 398 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Um check engine lights come on. I'm gonna I'm gonna 399 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: give you a real quick test here. Don check engine 400 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: lights come on because the vehicle emissions exceed one and 401 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: a half times a legal limit. All right, that's law. 402 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: All right. So if the car was if the car 403 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: was in an anti theft event, meaning that it's set 404 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: a security code, you think that's gonna turn on the 405 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: check engine light. No, right, So how are you gonna know. 406 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: The only way you're gonna know is you gotta scan it, 407 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: and you can't go in. Here's the case where you 408 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: can't go in on O b D two. You can 409 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: go in on the same port, but you can't use 410 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: You know, I always I always say this, and this 411 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: isn't my statement. This is the industry. There are there 412 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: are two languages available at that port O b D two, 413 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: which is you know, government mandated emissions and manufacturer specific. 414 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: So you've got to go in. If you notice there's 415 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: sixteen pins there, one of them speaks O b D two, 416 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: one of them speaks manufacturer. By plugging in the right 417 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: scan tool, you're gonna go in and and and speak 418 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: to the scan tool on the manufacturers side. And here's 419 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: the case where we we now call it system health 420 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: or health check or you know, all DTC scan. We're 421 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna look and see, you know, what kind of code 422 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: are getting out of this car, you know, just to 423 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: see what sort of information is in there. And uh, 424 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, this is a case I think that the 425 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: future is the future is now where we're gonna start 426 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: to scan in cars on an every you know, six 427 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 1: month basis, just to see what sort of faults are 428 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: coming up and it'll tell us things. Um, it's gonna 429 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: be expensive at work on cars in the coming years. 430 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm sorry. Will this carry a history to 431 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: show me that there was security breaches? It can, Yes, 432 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's worth it's it's a worthwhile event to happen, 433 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: or at least to try. Let me let me ask 434 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: you this question, Um, do you have tilt wheel in 435 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: this car? Okay? Because sometimes till wheel the wheel flexes 436 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: and breaks the two white wires coming out of the 437 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: locks cylinder. If this is a theft event issue, and 438 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: it makes them very fragile. So you know, first things first, 439 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: let's scan it. If there are no security faults, all right, 440 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to drive the car, wait till 441 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: it happens again, and get it back to the mechanic 442 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: knee very next day. If not that day, and if 443 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: there are still no security faults, then what I'm gonna 444 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: tell you to do is go down to the starter 445 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: and have the mechanic wire into that purple wire. There's 446 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a purple feed which is the trigger for 447 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: the starter solenoid. Um have him just extend some wiring 448 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: up to the passenger compartment. You know what, do you 449 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: know what a one side marker bulb is? Okay, just 450 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: have him take a one side marker bulb socket planted 451 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: somewhere in the passenger compartment and uh, you know, the 452 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: next time the car goes into a no start, if 453 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: he's wired it correctly, every time you start the vehicle, 454 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: that bulb will light because the solenoid feed, the solenoid 455 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: is the relay on the starter so to speak, that 456 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: actually makes the starter motor turn. It's it's like turning 457 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: on the blender in the kitchen. It you flick the switch, 458 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the light goes on, the blender runs. You flick the switch, 459 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: you turn the key to crank, the light comes on. 460 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: The starter cranks, you know, and just open the glove 461 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: box and you'll you know, if you want to put 462 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: it in the glove box, that's fine. I you know, um, 463 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: you can always tell if everybody a used car and 464 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: there's one side marker bulbs um fired into. It was 465 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: probably at the shop. So we've got more than a 466 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: few around with different you know. And the nice thing 467 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: is you can wire in different Oh yeah, it drives 468 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: people crazy there, you know why I look at this car. 469 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: We can we got a white ball, but green ball, 470 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: but you know, we'll actually paint bulbs different colors and 471 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: give them the customers. And you know which ballblit the 472 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: green one? Okay, that's bad? Uh, you know it's um 473 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: because this could just be a plain old bad starter. 474 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's no rule that says it 475 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: can't be and you know it's it's it's just a 476 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: matter of deduction and just you know, just just normal. 477 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: And of course, and I'm bypassing and I'm not having 478 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: the conversation with you. You know, how's the battery or 479 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: the cables clean? We could voltage drop test the batteries, 480 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: under load, make sure we've got good clean connections. I'm 481 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of assuming you've done all that, or the mechanics 482 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: done all that. That's that's sort of one of the 483 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: basics too. Um. I called my wife it was a 484 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: neutral safety switch, and somebody get my butt up there 485 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: and fix it. Now. Well, you know, listen, it could 486 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: be a neutral it could be a neutral safety sure, 487 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: put it in neutral. Does it change anything? And absolutely? Um, 488 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, but if we if we just start to 489 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: attack it. You know, logically, that's all. Just every every 490 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: problem on a car can be figured out. Logically. It 491 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: just takes time and effort. That's that's really all it is. 492 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: And it's it's just a matter of stay in calm 493 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: and fighting your way through it. Um. I always tell everybody. 494 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I say this to Danny in the shop. I've said 495 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: this to all the mechanics that have ever worked for me. Look, 496 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: and I get aggravated to we all get aggravated. Guess 497 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: what we're human will be perfectly when we're dead. Um, 498 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: you know what, it's you still got to fix the 499 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: broken car in front of you. And at the end 500 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: of the day, getting aggravated at it just raises your 501 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: blood pressure and shortens your lifespan. It's not worth it. 502 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: It's only a car. You'll figure it out. Just hanging there, 503 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: all right, sir, Hey, I gotta I gotta tell you 504 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: something good. Um, I walt been in many shops and 505 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: I've listened to the lead mechanics arguing with their employees 506 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: about something they did wrong. And this is an honest 507 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: truth right here. I say to them, Hey, you need 508 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: to shut that radio off, put on Ronanum's Car Doctor Show, 509 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: and let these mechanics get educated. Because if you're gonna 510 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: sit there and yell at them because they don't know 511 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing at least wrong, to teach them what's 512 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: going on. Well, I'll tell you what, I appreciate that, 513 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: don I You know what, I I said this for many, 514 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: many a year. I'm not I don't think I'm the 515 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: smartest guy out there. I just kind of know where 516 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: to look and find it. And that's you know, it's 517 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm just about research. I think research and understanding the changes. 518 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: We had a shop bring us a car this week 519 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: for a computer flashing, and it was I don't know, 520 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: I just think they misunderstood the process and what it's 521 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: supposed to do. So, um, you know what, education is 522 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: just very important paramount don I appreciate the call and 523 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: let me know how that goes. If you need more help, 524 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: you know where to find me. I'm run any in 525 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: the car Doctor eight five five zero nine zero zero, 526 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: will be back right after this. Welcome back in the 527 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: card doctor at five five five zero nine zero, Carven 528 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: phone number. Let's get over and our weekly visit with 529 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Walter in Hawaii. At least I get the guy. I've 530 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: never been to Hawaii so many times in my life. Walter, 531 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Aloha? Ron uh to one from 532 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: the Real Quick thing it's called I gave it to 533 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: both of my daughters. Is the Girls Auto Clinic glub 534 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: Box Guide? I have one of those in the shop. Yeah, 535 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I've seen a little great Is it? Is that the 536 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: great paperback book? Uh? I think yeah it is? Yeah, 537 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: and it's written by a woman in Chicago, had your 538 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: own shop and us very good. Yeah, it's very good. 539 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: The woman you talked to at the first top of 540 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: the first hour anything Yeah, yeah, we uh yeah, and 541 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: I have that in the shop. But um, yeah, thank you, 542 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: thank you. What's going on? I sort of saw the picture, Walter? 543 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Is this about the picture? Yes? Um, that piece of 544 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: metal that's flopping around there? Is that LUs and just 545 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: moving around at the bottom of the cranks brocket. Basically, yes, 546 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: and it obviously it will spin when the crank spends, 547 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: but when the cranks still, it will free wheel and 548 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: it goes between the sensor and the block. So what 549 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: does the sensor trigger off of because that looks I 550 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: can't see it in the picture, but that looks like 551 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: the trigger wheel for the sensor. It seems to me 552 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: it should be something like that. Yes, so you shouldn't 553 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: just spend freely, right, I agree with that death screws 554 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: the timing up. Well sure, well here, let's let's look 555 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: at it like this, because I didn't see the censor 556 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: in the picture. Partners, folks were handy. No, I still 557 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: like for whatever reason, New Jersey doesn't like things from Hawaii. 558 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, um, you know, but 559 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: but basically, the sensor comes in and it looks like 560 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: it lays against the top of that that piece of 561 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: metal that's floating there. If yes, if the if the 562 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: piece of metal isn't that part of the revolution of 563 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: the gear? Okay? Uh, you know to put the timing 564 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: belt gear? And is the trigger built into the sprocket 565 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: or does it look like the trigger once was that shield? Well, 566 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. It looks like it. It looks 567 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: like a separate piece. Okay, that's what I'm thinking, So 568 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: let's let's do it like this. The sprockets perfectly round 569 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: except for the teeth of the timing belt, right, So 570 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: then that piece of metal that's floating around has to 571 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: be the trigger. Yes, if that's loose and flopping around, 572 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: then that's a problem. If that's the case, so you've 573 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: got to get a parts blow up of what's supposed 574 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: to be there or how that's supposed to go together. 575 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: There's something physically wrong with how that's assembled or working. 576 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: Because I know of no reason why they would have 577 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: a loose piece of metal flopping around the cranksche at 578 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: at crank speed. That's that's a recipe for disaster. That's 579 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: what I thought too, And and I can't there's no 580 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: rhyme of reason why it would be loose, So it 581 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: should have been part of the crank. I don't think so, 582 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: or at least you know, part of the were would 583 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: always end up in the same spot when it's you know, 584 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta mis you gotta miss a bushy 585 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: dealer nearby. No, and then, and I can't even get 586 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: a manual for it. Uh. I tried to get a 587 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: manual from Amazon and they had one left, and I 588 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: put in for it and they only only for you, Walter. 589 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: Because I love you, send me the vent again, Email 590 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: me the vent. I'll see what kind of pictures I 591 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: can come up with. All right, kiddo, I gotta go. 592 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you during the week zero nine zero 593 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: running any of the car Doctor coming back right after this. 594 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: Welcome Mack running in car Doctor. Let's real quick. Get 595 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: over to Bob from Phillipsburg, New Jersey, Mr Bob, how 596 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: are you today, sir? Oh? We're doing. Enjoy its wonderful. Uh. 597 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: The nineteen sixty Volkswagen Beetle. It's a real car. UH 598 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: needs a battery H six Vault nineteen. Now. I've been 599 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: online looking and look and looking, and the one supplier 600 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: that I bought this original battery from about three years 601 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: old went out of business. And I'm looking at Excite 602 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: whether the one is going to be available or not. 603 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: But who do you have birth suppliers? You know Excites? Okay, 604 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: keep in mind that there's only the last time I 605 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: looked four years ago, there were only three manufacturers of 606 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: batteries in the country, and everybody's just basically going to 607 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: these manufacturers and saying, build me a battery to this spec. 608 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: So to that point, all right, I think the brand 609 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: of what you buy is just as important as who 610 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: you buy it from. You know, I I like the 611 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: Bosch batteries and I would clearly go to a Bush. 612 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Volkswagen. Man, there's nothing like parts 613 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: from from Germany, right, Um, not that they're just strictly 614 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: a German car company battery or simply strictly a German 615 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: car parts company, but you know, here's a classic case 616 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: of why not. And I would get out the Bosch 617 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: ole parts dot com and see what they've got available. 618 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Now you're also gonna find a GM batteries and a 619 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: GM batteries kind of come into the mix. It's probably 620 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 1: a little too high tech Forkswagen, but you want something 621 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: at that level. You want something at that level of 622 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: a Bosch battery. You also, you know, if it's possible 623 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: to have something that incorporates power frame grid technology. Um, 624 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: I don't know off the top of my head if 625 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: that exists in a bosh. But if it does, it's 626 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: it's you're gonna get it regardless. But um, you know, 627 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: while Excite is not a bad battery, Um, the one 628 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: thing I would look at is case dimensions and how 629 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: well will it bolt in? And I'd be willing to 630 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: bet that the Bosch battery bolts in a whole lot better. 631 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: All right, I would bet you the physical case size 632 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: is going to line up much better on the Boston 633 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: on anything else because is the fact that Boss was 634 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: owe on that vehicle makes sense? Yeah? I would Um, 635 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: I would clearly say that, hey, failing Bob, real quick, 636 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: everything good, Yeah, we're getting all right cool. Hey listen, 637 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: if you take good care, don't be such a stranger. 638 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: And it's good to hear your voice. All right, You're 639 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: welcome and uh wow, two hours over and done. I'm 640 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm running eating the car doctor. I want to thank 641 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: Mr Tom Ray. I appreciate him being here today. I 642 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: want to thank Mr Anthony as always, his nimble fingers 643 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: on the keyboard kept this radio show going. And for 644 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: everyone else, thanks for stopping by. It was a pleasure 645 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: to be here with you. And I'm not a nating 646 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: in the car doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive. 647 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: Did place this s see you