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Now here's a highlight from Coast 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: to Coast a M on iHeart Radio. All Right, the 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Gods never left us. Let me tell everybody work a 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: little bit about this book and then we'll get into it. 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: That God's never less left us contends that recent advancements 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: and biotechnology astrophysics engineering AI not only give us a 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: fresh perspective on ancient astronaut theory, but actually validates it. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: We are as a race embarking on the exact same 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: objectory of our interplanetary colonization, just as Eric van Donnikin 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: has suggested Earth itself was colonized. E t s are 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: at work today and that affects us. All tell Us 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: is a pretty accurate, Eric, perfectly, You did absolutely, Grede. 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Now let's get into this. When you talk about the 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: gods never left us, explain that well. I am absolutely 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: convinced that some thousands of thousands of years extraterrestors were here. 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: We can prove this, at least the figure like me, Eric, 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: the Anikin can prove it. I have published forty books 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: about it. I know what I'm talking about it now. 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: These gods at that time, they promised to return in 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: a faraway future. This promise of return is part or 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: west part of every ancient culture. For example, the Old 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Egyptian culture, they waited for the returning of the god 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: of Osiris or osieris that. The Central American people, they 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: waited for the return of the Federate certain Quatal quartel. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: The South American people, they waited for the return of 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: their god Mira, koshatcetera. All these cultures were waiting for 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: somebody to return. When first the white man appeared in 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: the beginning, they believed these are the long awaited God. 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: Now this promise of returning has also gone into every 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: big religion. I'm a Christian and we believe that Jesus 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: one they will return. But the Muslim society believes that 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: their Mahadi will one day return. Of course, the Buddhist 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: society expect the return of Buddha, the Jewish community expect 43 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: the journey that the return of Messiah. Now. To be honest, 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: not every religion can be right. Some of them must 45 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: be wrong. And I am afraid it's not neither Jesus 46 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: or Buddha or Messiah or Mahabi who will return. It's 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: the extra terrestrials. They promised it some tusands of years ago, 48 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: and at the moment they are here, and we have 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: possibility to prove this in a scientific way. Eric did 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: ancient mankind years ago, thousands of years ago, confused the 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: visitation of e t s with the discussion of heavenly 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: gods coming down. That's exactly the problem. Some thousands of 53 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: years ago they appeared. Now our ancestor war Stone age people, 54 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: they had no idea of technology. They believed erroneously that 55 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: these extraterrestrials must be the gods. That's why the gods 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: entered into mythology. That's why the gods entered into the 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: big religion. You see when you have, for example, a 58 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: city like Moses in the Old Testament. There you have 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: a passage that the so called God descends on the 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Holy Mountain. But before God the soul, he orders Moses 61 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: to construct a gate around the mountains so that the 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: people could not come close by. So Moses constructs again 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: the allies are unsafe distance, and then the Lord descends 64 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: on the mountain with smoke and fire and trembling, a 65 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: loud noise, and the whole mountain was glowing like a 66 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: fern age, et cetera. Now, a real God would not 67 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: need first to construct a gate to for protection, and 68 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: real God does not need some vehican to descend with 69 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: smoke and fire, and probably the real God is all over. 70 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: So it was not God. It was a misunderstanding. It 71 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: was extraterrestrious. And we know the result of it a 72 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: gigantic religion. But the beginning is a mistake. It is indeed, 73 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: and it is just absolutely astounding. And the Bible is 74 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: based primarily on the visitations of E. T. S. Do 75 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: you think, well, at least parts of the Old Testament. 76 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: You see, the Old Testament, or what we call the Bible, 77 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: is not written by one author. You see, the believers 78 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: they saying God was the author of the Old Testament. 79 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: But the Old Testament was written by different authors to 80 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: different times, and they tell different things. In many examples, 81 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: in the Old Testament we find some stories which in 82 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: reality are much older than the Bible. Give me to example. 83 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: Everyone knows the story of the Great Plot in the 84 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Old Testament, and there it is told in the third person, 85 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: he said, and God ordered Noah, you sure construct an art, etcetera. 86 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: But the same story is handed down in the Gilgamesh Epick, 87 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: which is older than the Bible, and in the gilds 88 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Epic it is handed down in the first person, not 89 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: in the circle. In the first person means and I did, 90 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: and I constructed the arc, and I made this. So 91 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: the Bible has taken something which is to the Bible, 92 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: which is from another source, the same thing happened. For example, 93 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: we learned in the Bible that Moses was a child 94 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and her mother was afraid to be ashamed, so he 95 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: put Moses into a basket, and the basketball floating down 96 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the nile, and some of the Pharahou's daughter took it out. 97 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: But that story is much older than Moses. It comes 98 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: from Sumerian part from Saragon the first that was two 99 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: thousand three PC. So in the Bible we find some 100 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: stories which are taken out from older sources. And the 101 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Bible reader doesn't did know it. He believes it's all 102 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: one world, the world of God. It's not the case, Eric, 103 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: What do you think the gods wanted with us and 104 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: still want with us. They wanted that we create intelligence. 105 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: It's the moment we habitants that we spread out intelligence 106 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: the whole universe. The universe must be full with intelligence quasi. 107 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Every form of life has to be affected with intelligence. 108 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Now in life you have so called unchangeable forms. I mean, 109 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: and a crocodile, for example, could never invite a computer. 110 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: Neither could the fish because you need electricity and you 111 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: cannot in in in they developed electricity in the water. 112 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: So you have some unchangeable forms. And this is all 113 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: part of a gigantic program. We have evolution of court. 114 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: We are the product of evolution of court. But not 115 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: don't be There were always interferences in our genome and 116 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I can prove this now with this interest in us. 117 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: There are theories that they manipulated whatever species might have 118 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: been on the planet at the time. Do you think 119 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: that's what happened, That's exactly what happened, not, you know, 120 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: it's very, very complicated. Among the dead Cheese scrolls, the 121 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Day's crowds were found in the Dead Sea in Israel 122 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: some some sixty years ago, and among these dadsy scrolls 123 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: was one scroll found which is called the Lammic scroll. 124 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: What is the Lama scroll? We here we learned that 125 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Lamic is a shepherd and Lama was some away from 126 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: his tents. One day he comes back and his wife 127 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: with the name of Buttons had just given birth to 128 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: a child, to a boy. No. Father Landing says to 129 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: his wife, this is not my child. It's impossible because 130 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I was away too many months, you see concerning the 131 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: nine months before birth, and the child looks completely different. 132 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: But his wife Buttano says, no, I swear you nobody 133 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: touched me sexually, nobody, I had contact with nobody. So 134 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: play goes and asked his father what should I do. 135 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: His father's name was Methusala. Methusla doesn't know either, and 136 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: he goes to his father. The father is the name Enoch, 137 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: the same Enoch which later disappears as the first human 138 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: being in the Fiery Chariot from the Earth. Enox says 139 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: to his son Methusala, go to your son Lannik, tell 140 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: him the guardians of the sky had inseminated Buttons the wife. 141 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: He should accept this boy as his own, and he 142 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: should get him the name of Noah, because they have 143 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: decided to come over the planet with the gigantic flood 144 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: to destroy everything. But Noah should be the survivor of 145 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: the new generation. Now we all are a Noah's children, 146 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: So we all have some extra terrestrial genes in us. 147 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: And that's in the Dead Sea scrolls, that's in the 148 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: dad called the Numaic Scroll. What an amazing story too. 149 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: And these extraterrestrial Zeric they may have been confused with 150 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: us as the gods. They were the gods. But somewhere 151 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,359 Speaker 1: along the line, somebody created them. Of course are they 152 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: have they been seeking that answer? Who created them? We 153 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: see we have today we have two possibilities in philosophy 154 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: or in the religion. We say in the beginning, there 155 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: was God. So the critics should ask, okay, and where 156 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: does God come from? What created God? We have no answer. 157 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: In religion we simply respected this is believed. In science, 158 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: they tell us, in the beginning, was the Big Bang 159 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: or the big banks in pearl more than them? Okay, 160 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: why not? But then we have to ask where does 161 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: the big bank came from? I mean, even an at 162 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: home a nucleus has to have a starting point, and 163 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: we have no answer. So neither in science nor in 164 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: philosophy we know the beginning. So somewhere it had to start. 165 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: You see, when I have my my speeches, I often 166 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: say to them, to the listeners, just give me a 167 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: piece of paper, and I make a perfect circle of 168 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the paper, and then I give the paper to you 169 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: and ask you the question where did that circle stop? Now, 170 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: your logic says, well, Mr Van Denikin must have started somewhere, 171 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: but you cannot answer the question because the circle is 172 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: closed by itself like a bull. So we have the problem. 173 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: We do not know the starting point. I think the 174 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: extra Restians they know the starting point. Maybe they don't 175 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: know it. If they don't know it, they are seeking 176 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: for it. They're looking for the starting point of everything. 177 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: But we today we have no answer. What do they 178 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: want with us Sarah, I mean, are they trying to 179 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: raise us like a zoo? What do they want? Yea, 180 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: there is the SWO hypothesis. Now they want that we 181 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: create intelligence. Intelligence means finally industries, means finally spaceships. The 182 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: goal of the humans to be understand it is create technology, 183 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: create spaceship, and continue to spread out intelligence in the universe. 184 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: Just give the flag to another planet, continuing the whole 185 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Solar System. Now the whole universe has to be made 186 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: intelligence intelligence. We have to spread out intelligence. Listen to 187 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at one a m. 188 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Eastern and go to Coast to Coast am dot com 189 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: for more war