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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past.

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Speaker 3: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 3: Mike Raybel.

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Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 4: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 5: You guys here.

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Speaker 4: All right, your thoughts on going into this one kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, take us through what you're thinking and

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Speaker 4: starting with Drake.

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Speaker 5: All the way for Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Drake look good yesterday. He's ready to go, so we'll

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Speaker 6: be starting the game for sure. I'm excited to get

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Speaker 6: another opportunity again. We talked about, you know, more opportunities

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Speaker 6: for him to just continued to grow. This gives him

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Speaker 6: an opportunity to go out and play a team we

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Speaker 6: just played two weeks ago. Have a good understanding of

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Speaker 6: what they did in our game, and you see how

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Speaker 6: how well we respond in this game.

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Speaker 3: That's not like for you play calling to when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the team you just faced.

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Speaker 5: Two weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously you're gonna show you one thing and

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Speaker 6: maybe play something a little bit differently. We have to

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Speaker 6: be ready for that. I thought they did a nice

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Speaker 6: job in that first game of disguising, you know, giving

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Speaker 6: Drake different looks. I would expect to see some of

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Speaker 6: more of that as well. There is a lot of

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Speaker 6: stuff that we were lucky enough we got to carry over.

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Speaker 6: We didn't use that we liked against the team, So

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Speaker 6: the week of preparation should be smooth in that regard.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I thought we played are probably one

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Speaker 5: We just got to put two of those together. Al

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Speaker 5: you mentioned Drake when we started. For sure, is the

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Speaker 5: plan for him to play the.

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Speaker 6: Whole game the way we're playing a game to win

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Speaker 6: the game. For sure, We'll see how it goes from

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Speaker 6: that point. But yes, that's the intent.

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Speaker 5: About popability of controls, you quick that. I think he's

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's the stuff that he does on the

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Speaker 6: scout team, He's has been impressive. His ability to throw

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Speaker 6: the ball. You know, he's an elite passer in that regard.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see, we have all three guys ready to go.

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Speaker 6: We'll make that decision later in the week. But if

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Speaker 1: Did Joe take any snaps with the starting unit for

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Speaker 1: the second team yesterday practice?

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Speaker 5: He took some snaps yesterday.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen from him from day one to now?

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Speaker 5: Big?

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Speaker 6: You know, just I think his understanding of the system

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Speaker 6: much like Drake, the young guys when they come into

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Speaker 5: Was recisions guys that really well. And I think it

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Speaker 6: A lot of the times guys get off their their

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Speaker 6: him to be a more accurate passer. Is that at

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Speaker 5: You know, do you expect to be back next year?

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Speaker 5: And you know the distraction at all for you? No,

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Speaker 6: You know, we've all we all signed up for this,

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Speaker 6: Let's finish strong with the win at home in front

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Speaker 6: I would love to be back, you know, I really

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Speaker 4: What's to mean to you? Pass week? Aloan that several players, Drake,

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Speaker 5: It means a lot.

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Speaker 6: You know, those are the guys you stand in front

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Speaker 5: Them, and I'm glad that those guys said that. I

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Speaker 6: Again, I know it hasn't gone the way we wanted to,

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a few weeks ago we talked about getting

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Speaker 4: How do you balance that first talk with putting them

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean we got to go out and compete.

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Speaker 6: We're trying to win the football game, so you know

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Speaker 6: we'll have everything available there. He's got to do a

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Speaker 6: better job. And we had this conversation. When you're on

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Speaker 5: He's got to protect himself as well from those situations.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's winding back the clock when either when you

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Speaker 3: for year one if you got the job, this is

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Speaker 6: Everything its time, sure, I mean, it's a lot of

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Speaker 6: And but I think, uh, again, there were expectations to

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Speaker 2: Talked a little bit about the Karen Olk system from

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean you could look at a lot of

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Speaker 6: that knowledge of you that you have in the system

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Speaker 6: in many different levels. You know, I think it's important

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Speaker 6: stay within the system. Was anyway, on looking back that

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Speaker 6: And that comes down to you know, when you do

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Speaker 6: We'll pick those games to evaluate and break down. So

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Speaker 6: quite often you're looking at other teams when you're doing.

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Speaker 3: That time of year where there's often reflection traps in here.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday it was how you showed something.

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Speaker 2: That brooks you camp as something lay he made and

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Speaker 5: How do you think you've grown and.

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Speaker 6: Where do you think maybe as Yeah, there's definitely growth.

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Speaker 6: I mean you grow in every every season, regardless of

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Speaker 5: Your growth is every every year, no matter what the position.

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Speaker 6: Some of the things that I would like to take back,

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Speaker 5: How can I be better for that? How much?

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Speaker 1: When you like at the end of the year where

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Speaker 5: What did I learn? What can I do better? How

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Speaker 5: much you do it? Yeah? I do it in every game.

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Speaker 6: So after the end of the game, I take my

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Speaker 6: I'll definitely look at those throughout the course of the season,

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Speaker 3: How much can you how much better can you think

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Speaker 3: you could be next year?

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Speaker 6: At this I think again, it's that continued growth for

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Speaker 1: I have you seen defenses to defend you down the

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Speaker 1: have your identity bill, have you seen them defend you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's definitely some rush patterns that encourage the quarterback

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Speaker 5: I think teams will start to use with Drake. You

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Speaker 6: Little more spine of him to stop him from running,

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Speaker 6: Entree and those things.

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Speaker 1: You can say fire the next season to think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we gotta find answers for this.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's part of the coaching and the developing the growth. Thanks,

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Speaker 6: thanks guys, appreciate you, guys. Thank you guys so much,

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I wish because that would be going to

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Speaker 5: the masters if I were.

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Speaker 3: But where the Patriots are concerned, let's just get one

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Speaker 5: We can worry about versatility.

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Speaker 3: Am I lying to anybody here.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of my biggest thing.

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