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Speaker 1: Matt Williams, and practices just ended here at St. Vincent

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Speaker 1: Like we we've commented over the last two hours or so. Well,

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Speaker 1: am Dale Lully. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation radio patch. Practices wrapped up for the day here,

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Speaker 1: but there's still players out there working. Mr Risk he's

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Speaker 1: still out there throwing passes. But the receivers do'antee Johnson

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Speaker 1: think a lot of work in with. I bet they

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Speaker 1: don't want the day off tomorrow. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: impression they just want to keep getting better and put

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Speaker 1: the work in. Yeah, you're here, you might as well

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Speaker 1: get the working. Anthony Miller is just yeah, that's oppressive.

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Speaker 1: Quick quick, quick, quick quick. He's gonna he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a factor on this offense. I think he will too.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 1: right after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. Guy'm Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williams simply are a live overlooking the Steelers practice

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Speaker 1: field here at St. Vincent College, overlooking Chuck Noel Stadium

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Speaker 1: field here and Mr Bisky throwing the ball well he is, uh,

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Speaker 1: it comes out of his hand. I think when he

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Speaker 1: gets a little more comfortable in this offense, I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, you're gonna see a much different player

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Speaker 1: than what we've seen here in the first few days.

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Speaker 1: And I think once they get the guy in the

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Speaker 1: green shoes down there back on the field, that would

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Speaker 1: help to Yeah, he's he's all right, kind of a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Ye. We're both commenting on Miller again too,

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Speaker 1: Like Miller looks good, he looks good. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a factor this year. Yeah, he sunk, his hips are

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Speaker 1: really well. Came out present a target, boom balls right

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Speaker 1: on him one time, and mrs rowing it well. And

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Speaker 1: these receivers look good out here. Yeah. Also see Naga

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Speaker 1: Harris down here, still working, catching the football and doing

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Speaker 1: those kind of things. Zach Gentry coming up finally walking off.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's uh, I've seen Nagy doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of hand eye coordination, receiving drills, balls and you know,

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Speaker 1: unorthodox training. You know, if you look at his season

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Speaker 1: last year, he had some drops. I guess he did.

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Speaker 1: I think it was eight or nine drops, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had a bunch that that you'd like to see

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Speaker 1: for a guy who has good hands, great hands. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now I get that. A lot of that was, hey, go, no,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna run out to the flat, or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go three yards and turn around in the third night

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Speaker 1: and you catch the ball two yards and yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it drops are gonna happen in those kind of situations.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I bet he's not happy with that though,

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Speaker 1: because he should be a very good receiver this year. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look around the league of today. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners lost defensive lineman Maurice Hurst who had

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Speaker 1: torn biceps out for the year. They just cut d

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Speaker 1: Ford yesterday the day before too. Um. I was writing

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Speaker 1: an article actually for Steelers dot Com preview in the

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Speaker 1: NFC West, they were like at the top of the

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Speaker 1: league in terms of sacks without blitzing, And then I

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Speaker 1: went back and look at their draft. I mean, with

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Speaker 1: the exception of trade lance and maybe one other guy.

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Speaker 1: Almost every one of their first round picks, the last

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Speaker 1: seven or eight, your first pick, because Drake Jackson was

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Speaker 1: this year, the first pick was a D lineman, you know,

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Speaker 1: like they really put a lot of resources into D

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Speaker 1: line maybe more than any team in the league. And

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Speaker 1: Hurst is interesting because that poor guy. I mean everyone's

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Speaker 1: talking about him as like a top fifty pick coming

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Speaker 1: out of Michigan, goes the combine and they found a

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Speaker 1: hard condition, you know, and then he the Raiders took

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Speaker 1: him in like the fifth or sixth round and he's

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Speaker 1: never really materialized, and it sounds like he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: play this year either. The Buccaneers UH Tampa Bay losing

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Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen earlier this week. UH Todd Bowles today their

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Speaker 1: their first year head coach, said they're gonna look internally

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Speaker 1: at first and they're gonna take a look at Robert

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Speaker 1: Hanzi and Nick Levrette right now and Canes he was

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Speaker 1: the third round pick last year. Kind of with this

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Speaker 1: in mind, he can also play guard. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the other guy particularly well. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: um again, I would think you've got to be at

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Speaker 1: least on the phone with J. C. Trader. Um, there's

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Speaker 1: been some people asking us about Trader and Darryl Williams.

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Speaker 1: And Darryl Williams signed with the Patriots yesterday too, so

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Speaker 1: he's out of the mix as well. So they were

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Speaker 1: the two offensive lineman that I thought were you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a track record that were named guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: it gives you an idea where the Patriot trapped in

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Speaker 1: their offensive line, right, not as well? Yeah, that kind

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Speaker 1: of surprised me. Maybe they just looked at him like, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's good, we'll pick him up, you know, but he's

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that would be an online needed team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you can always use pick a tackle that's been

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Speaker 1: around the block. Um, if you look at, uh, some

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Speaker 1: of the other stuff going on around the elite. I

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Speaker 1: know we both like Gunner, but like watching him run

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Speaker 1: slot Rouls versus Miller is not even close. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: really are, Uh, Trevor Lawrence saying praising Travis a t

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Speaker 1: N today as you would expect every college teammates. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's a surprise to Travis, but he's

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Speaker 1: a key for them. I Mean, a lot of easy throws,

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Speaker 1: explosive plays might be the number one back. Um, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on some of my fantasy teams. I can

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Speaker 1: promise see that. Yeah. Um, Kenneth Gamewell was getting some

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Speaker 1: first team snaps. He's a sneaky one too, while Miles

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Speaker 1: Sanders was getting second team snaps. Nick Sirianni said that, look,

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Speaker 1: um Miles is still our our number one back. I

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Speaker 1: like game well though. I think he's a lot like

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Speaker 1: Pollard or you know, I think some people look at

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Speaker 1: game well like he's just a James White receiver only type.

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Speaker 1: I think he's highly capable of, you know, not workload,

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Speaker 1: but getting serious carries. Um, Miles Sanders is a good player.

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Speaker 1: He's very talented. Um, he didn't swar touchdown last year,

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Speaker 1: which is probably just more flukey than anything Woodland Hills guy.

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Speaker 1: But he's his contracts up after the year, and they

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Speaker 1: ran the ball more than any team the league. You know,

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Speaker 1: So you can't just hope Miles Sanders as your bell

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Speaker 1: cow and forget about it. Well, no, you get gotta

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Speaker 1: need to and that's you know, something we've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot of with this team, right right, Who do you

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Speaker 1: think the fastest Miami Dolphin is? Pads on On a

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Speaker 1: football field, I'm still going Tyreeke, Well, you'd be wrong.

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Speaker 1: You'd be wrong. Okay. According to head coach Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: the guy who's recorded the fastest most speed is Raheim Mostart,

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Speaker 1: And if you look at it, the Raheim most and

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Speaker 1: since has produced the two fastest in game speed. And

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Speaker 1: I say I remember him having well into the twenty

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Speaker 1: three oh nine and twenty two point seven three. Hill's

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Speaker 1: top speed in game is twenty one point nine. If

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Speaker 1: I complained to you about this yet on the air, no,

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Speaker 1: Like I am not a scientist or a odometer specialist

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Speaker 1: or whatever they used the judge mile per hour. But

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Speaker 1: the fastest guys every given week are always Like for

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Speaker 1: net Chub most Art, they're not the speed guys. It's

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Speaker 1: the guys that take a while to get going, and

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Speaker 1: like the second leg of the hundred yard dash, they

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Speaker 1: really start to pick up speed and they get the

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Speaker 1: like you can't tell me he's faster than tyreek Kill,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just talking to buy that, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean in a straight line. Once he gets going,

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Speaker 1: he can really roll. And that's it looks like Patrick

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago had the one of the

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Speaker 1: fastest times for the season on the interception, and he

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Speaker 1: took back of it like the yard interception that he

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Speaker 1: had to I think he was like twenty two something.

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Speaker 1: I mean anything over twenty. I think it's moving pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But to your point, there's a difference between the build

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Speaker 1: up speed. The acceleration is more I get up. If

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Speaker 1: you get up to speed quickly, that makes a big difference.

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Speaker 1: And there's the way most's beaten Tyreeker waddle in a

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Speaker 1: twenty yard dash. No, that's his that's his thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a track background to um Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: yelling at some of his defensive lineman because they're getting

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Speaker 1: a little too close to doing some stuff. That's usually

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Speaker 1: the owners should be yelling at him in check. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't touch the franchise. That's an interesting deal line though.

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Speaker 1: It's really deep, with a lot of early round picks,

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Speaker 1: and you throw Von Miller in the mix. I think

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Speaker 1: they're probably trying to show themselves or get a pecking order.

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Speaker 1: They're a lot to prove. You know, everyone's talking about

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Speaker 1: the offense and all that, but that the line is

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Speaker 1: a lot invested in At Oliver Rousseau, all those dudes,

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Speaker 1: and it's time for them to really step up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis talking about um getting used to seeing NFL defenses. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel told the reporter Saturday. They want him to

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Speaker 1: get better at his timing, the same thing we're talking

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Speaker 1: about with Kenny Picket. There was a huge problem with

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Speaker 1: Willis in college and he got away with it against

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Speaker 1: really bad competition because he gets run around. Yeah, Rabel saying,

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Speaker 1: that's been the message. Just making sure the timing improves

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Speaker 1: because you only have a certain amount of time to

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Speaker 1: get the pass off, and the distribution of the route

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00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and every else thing else ties into that. That's something

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Speaker 1: that Kenny pick is dealing with right now. That means

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson went through it last year and never really

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Speaker 1: overcame it. I mean, this is not an uncommon problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean Hurts had that issue in college as well,

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Speaker 1: Um Haskins Fields. A lot of these guys are that way,

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Speaker 1: you know, so again not uncommon, but you gotta get

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Speaker 1: over It's not an easy thing to correct either. It

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Speaker 1: is not especially you gotta trust and for Piket right now,

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00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: people also need to remember he's getting limited snaps. If

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Speaker 1: he was either getting every snap and wasn't getting better.

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Speaker 1: Be a lot more concerned. He's the third team right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the one drill hit, you know, he he

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Speaker 1: was over four, but only three four past four past.

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Speaker 1: That's not enough to you know. And in seven shots

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Speaker 1: he's only had one one repe since he's been here,

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, but it was one rep. Yeah, let's get

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Speaker 1: a little bigger body of work. Yeah, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: how that continues to to go here for some of

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Speaker 1: these teams. But not a lot of bad news around

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Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, hopefully that keeps up. The Jensen one

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00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: is the big one so far. Um, the jlio signing

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Speaker 1: to me doesn't move the needle. I mean it's a

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Speaker 1: big Dane guy, but that doesn't excite me. The I

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Speaker 1: think the bigger news out of Tampa, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he'll keep up, is that Godwin is not

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Speaker 1: on the pop. You know, he's practicing in full right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: same with Michael Thomas. So I thought those guys were

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Speaker 1: more banged up than I thought. But we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: mean they could always put him on the pup at

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Speaker 1: any time. Yeah, not seeing much against Still no movement

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Speaker 1: on the Deshaun Watson. Strange situation for Lamar's contract for

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Speaker 1: another week into that now and oh there's another big

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Speaker 1: contract news is It sounds like Durwin James is looking

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Speaker 1: for a Minka plus type of deal and Um is

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Speaker 1: doing the hold in thing as we speak, and he'll

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Speaker 1: probably get it. You know that that teams did it

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Speaker 1: to win it right now. And he's a great player,

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Speaker 1: but there is a durability thing looming. A little durability

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00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: is an issue. And I think if you look at him,

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Speaker 1: you know, player for player, you go, Okay, he's there.

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Speaker 1: He's just talented, if not more talented in Minca's bigger.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta stay on the field. In the field,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that they're both safeties is a

633
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: little bit of a misnomer. I mean, like Durwin James

634
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: lined up on the edge and rushed the passer last year.

635
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like Minka is never gonna do that. And

636
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: you're not gonna ask Darwin to be deep middle play

637
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: after play after play either, so we're dropped down in

638
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: the slot necessary right right, right. I mean he's a

639
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: great player. I love him. I mean he's one of

640
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: the few safeties I would consider trading maka for. But

641
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: he's not the same guy. Yeah, definitely different, differently stylistically. Yeah. Yeah.

642
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him at the Pro Bowl a couple

643
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: of years ago, and I went to the down to

644
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and watching him at practice, going, he

645
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: don't look like everybody. Yeah, and that's the Pro Bowl.

646
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: That's not just roster, that's the best of the best.

647
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: And he looks better than all those dudes. Yeah, he's

648
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: quite the body. Tell you what Anthony Miller again putting

649
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: in the work today. Yeah, I think he's the drill here,

650
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: pot potato drill or something. Yeah, he's got two coaches.

651
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: He's sitting on the ground. Paint the picture. Sitting on

652
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: the ground. He's got two guys walking around him throwing

653
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: balls at him, one after the other. As soon as

654
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: he gets one of his hands, he flipped. It's like

655
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: one thing and there they're kind of changing directions on

656
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: You get one over one shoulder, now I'm one over

657
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: the other. I assume it's training your eyes to pick

658
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: up the ball quickly, you real quickly, because they're not

659
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: far away from him, of things coming on him quick

660
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: and you don't get to move your feet, you know,

661
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: you don't get to adjust your upper body that or

662
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, to adjust to the football really well. He

663
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: might be my star of practice today. That's a good call. Yeah,

664
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm standing out with you. And you know, no, no Deonte,

665
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: no Claypool. Maybe we saw a little more of them

666
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: than we would have, but take advantad of that stuff.

667
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: That's way the league works. I think people really are

668
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: sleeping on him, like fans. I think they saw the

669
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: Boykins signing. Well, Miles Boykin like Anthony Miller's got juice. Yeah,

670
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: and I remember you saying last year after they picked

671
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: him up, it's like, yeah, they're not using them. But

672
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: you pick up a guy mid season, you're jumping on

673
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: a speed and train. You know, it's really hard. You

674
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: learn the offense and you're learning everything in the building

675
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: of you. We're not gonna get taped, but I'll take

676
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: this version of Miller over McLeod. You know, like if

677
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: they if they would have been comfortable with this guy

678
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: doing the McCloud and stuff last year, there'd have been

679
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: a better football tea. That's the thing, you know. I

680
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: wrote that today in my piece on on d K

681
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Sports. Like Bravery mclaud got sixty six targets last year. Yeah,

682
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: that's so good. He doesn't and anything. He shouldn't demand

683
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: anything any targets like that. There should be no guarantees

684
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: of any kind of targets for for that guy. I mean,

685
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: I remember writing a post game every Tuesday. I wrote

686
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: a post game you know, stealer article, and I bet

687
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: ten to twelve of them. I wrote a sentence like

688
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: a Cloud paid played forty eight snaps today. That's too many.

689
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's like you're forcing the ball. Yeah, that guy,

690
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: And we say that's all the time, Like, if you're

691
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: the defense, who are the five you don't want out there? Well,

692
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: Mcloud's on on that list. Absolutely not. Yeah, I I

693
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: completely agree. I was a little shocked the Niners game

694
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: as much as they did. Yeah. I mean, I guess

695
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a return guy and you you're

696
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: all about after the catch. Yeah, Um, but I don't

697
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: see him helping Trey Lance a whole lot. No. No,

698
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean I guess maybe they need a returner. I

699
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, but um, he had a lot of

700
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: tape and I didn't think it was very impressive. No,

701
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: I didn't either. I'll take Miller over him all day. Long,

702
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: all day long. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, We're gonna take another break.

703
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully. You're listening

704
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers National Radio. We are

705
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: live from Steelers training camp here at St. Vincent College. Uh.

706
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: To practice is wrapped up. Still some players on the

707
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: field doing some stuff, but still a lot of fans.

708
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Still a lot of fans here waiting to get autographs

709
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Uh. Anthony Miller finally wrapping,

710
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: finally hanging it up about an hour. Job, well done, Anthonyeah,

711
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: good for you. But that's gonna We're gonna take a

712
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: break here. We'll be back to finish up the show

713
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: right after this, at least. He's the Drive with Dale

714
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: Lolly and Matt Williamson on you Home of the Black

715
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: and Gold, Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally

716
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson. That's actually there's there's a couple

717
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: of guys over there kicking a soccer bar. That's actually

718
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: Roberts Colline. I believe it looks like he's not his

719
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: first time. He was heading it and told them all

720
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's done a little bit of that.

721
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: Who else whoever he's goofing off with. I think it

722
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: was just near him doing over there, kicking it to him.

723
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Who else do I see you over there? And someone's

724
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: on the ground to doing the same Miller drill that

725
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: we were still talking about. I can't tell who that

726
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: might be. Karl Joseph. Again, he's been okay, boy, he

727
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: puts it the time too. We don't give him enough

728
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: credit for being an after practice guy. He's dealing with

729
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: the helmet on too. Yeah, makes a harder um. Again.

730
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: I I talked to him in the spring and he says, Look,

731
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: if I don't make it here, I'm gonna try to

732
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: make it somewhere else. Yeah, gotta put the work in. Yeah,

733
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy too. I mean he has some

734
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: pedigree as well. In the first round pick and you

735
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: get a bunch of those guys, yeah right right, bunch

736
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: of those guys that were you know, high pedigree guys

737
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: that just didn't work out somewhere else. It happens all

738
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: the time. But if I'm gonna take a risk on

739
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: a retread on the for nothing, give me all the

740
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: first and second round picks in the world. You know,

741
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: they went that high for a reason. Yeah, mostly because

742
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: they have athletic ability, you know. I mean, you can

743
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: coach the try hard guy all you want, but he

744
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: has a sealing Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. This soccer is a

745
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: little strange and I'm just prised to see it. But

746
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: plain it looks like he's all right, working on some footwork. Yeah. Yeah,

747
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: I think he's just goofing off and having fun on

748
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: a nice field. Yeah you mean, I mean why not?

749
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Why're off? Yeah, you're having a little fun. Yeah. If

750
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: you're not going home or anything, might as well hanging

751
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: here with your buds, soccer ball around, camaraderie that you're building,

752
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: you know, that's the all part of this. I mean,

753
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: if they weren't a camp, they would all be in

754
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: cars hustling home, you know, going to meet friends or

755
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: family or whatever. You know. Absolutely, Um. When you look

756
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: at this team, and I mentioned yesterday the the overunder

757
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: is now seven, I don't understand why I can't. I

758
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: just think six is so much less likely than eight. Yeah,

759
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean six and eleven. This does not look like

760
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: a six and eleven team to me. I don't believe

761
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: that for a second. I wonder if the quarterback news

762
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: is getting people like the people that think, oh pick

763
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: it with it's really a challenge and everyone just takes

764
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: everybody thought, picket, we'll pick it's gonna be the starter.

765
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah it looks bad. Well okay then, and they always

766
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: have a pre they always have a preconceived notion about

767
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: dr bisky. So they're a six win team. But I

768
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: don't know. But for you betters out there, I think

769
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: I gotta be jumping on the over on that one.

770
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you need six or less to lose. I

771
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: think they're gonna gonna win seven or more. No, six

772
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: isn't many. They have a tough schedule, I mean they

773
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: really do. There's not a lot of gimmes on there.

774
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: But there's not a lot of travel either. True, good point,

775
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: you know even though the and we know Mike Tomlin's

776
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: track record against good football teams, Yeah wins, wins a

777
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: few that he shouldn't. Yeah. Yeah, Um that will happen

778
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: again this year. Absolutely. I mean you think they're gonna

779
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: get swept in the division, right right? I mean you

780
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: get two wins into division and you're gonna find four

781
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: more to or you know, five more to tie your bet.

782
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: I would bet right now if if somebody came to me, said,

783
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: I'll give you odds on the Steelers finishing dead last

784
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: in the FC North. I would pick against that. I

785
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: would too. I think Cincinnati's gonna regress a little and

786
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: if people are a little ahead of themselves with the Bengals,

787
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: although I think they're a better team than the Steelers. Um.

788
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I think where you're going with this is, do you

789
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 1: think the Browns are gonna have a tough year? Yeah?

790
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: I do too. I think they're more likely to win

791
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: six games and the Steelers are. I don't know if

792
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: they're over unders even available in Vegas. I knew it

793
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: wasn't for a long time, but if it were eight

794
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: or under, that's a bet I would be looking at

795
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: right now too. I bet it's like eight and a

796
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: half this longer. This thing stretches out With DeShawn Watson,

797
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: he's at least practicing the right because they need answers, right, yeah, right,

798
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: because they can be you need to get somebody. They

799
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: need to get to your Kobe per set ready to start. Yeah.

800
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: They have a little bit of juggling a going on

801
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: right now because you have to have Watson be the

802
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: man right now. I mean, if you're a Cleveland practice

803
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: right now, and he's practicing. He has to be the man,

804
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's what he was paid to do,

805
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: no matter what he does off the field. But deep down,

806
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, in week one, he's not gonna be here

807
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: and I gotta get the other guy ready. Like that's hard. Yeah.

808
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, all four of their quarterbacks

809
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: are new guys. Yea, yeah, the number one receivers a

810
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: new guy. And you know, so I think they have

811
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: some challenges, but it could also go right for them.

812
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Strust that coaching staff, sort of more so than Cincinnati's.

813
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: I mean I almost said it could go right for them.

814
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: But he's gonna get He's not get zero games, right,

815
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna right. I mean, it's not gonna be a

816
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: two game suspension and you go one and one and

817
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: then you're back at it and nothing happened. I mean,

818
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be That's not gonna be the case.

819
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, I don't think that they finished last

820
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: in the division. I don't know if they you know,

821
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they would finish first. I wouldn't pick

822
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: him to do that either, But I think that they're

823
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: going to be in the mix too. I absolutely think

824
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: they're much closer to a playoff team than they are

825
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: a top ten draft pick team. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean

826
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if they end up with a seventh

827
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: or eighth pick. Overall. I mean, I mean they maybe

828
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: they only do win seven games, but I expect there

829
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: to be a lot of progress as a season goes on,

830
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe you lose a lot of tight ones,

831
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: but deep down, I think that the over under should

832
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: be like eight and a half maybe eight. Yeah, I

833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: think that's yeah, more realistic, just because I can't see six.

834
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, for you to lose, they have to get

835
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: the six, you know, And I just don't see the

836
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: six and eleven team here with seventeen bites at the Apple. Yeah,

837
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that, um again, it's

838
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: my twenty ninth season. They've won six games or a

839
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: fewer once it was six and ten one year. Never

840
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: with this coaching staff. Yes, they're right, you know, like

841
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's not a fluke. You know, I've

842
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: seen him winning with Mike tom Zack as their quarters. Yeah,

843
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, and even the last three years they have

844
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: not had top tier quarterback play, you know, and one

845
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: of those years they didn't have really an NFL quarterback

846
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: and they were eight and eight, you know, so, I

847
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: mean tomlin Is pulled some miracles. I mean that was

848
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: to me, was not a playoff team last year. I

849
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: mean a valid contender, you know, I mean of course

850
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: everything you can have a team work. Either you finished

851
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: dead last and run defense when you know, men, their

852
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: offense was bottom third of the league easily. You know,

853
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: the defense suffered because of it. Yeah, you lose your

854
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, two of your top three defensive linemen. You

855
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: should not go. No, you shouldn't make the playoffs. Yeah,

856
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be playing in the postseason. I mean just

857
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: just the the the run defense thing alone. I bet

858
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: you could count, if you went back twenty years, you

859
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: could probably count on one hand the number of times

860
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: a team was dead last and run defense and made

861
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah. I'm curious if you even expanded, like,

862
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: who are the bottom five run defenses every year? What

863
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: percentage of time do they go to the postseason? It's

864
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: probably like ten, Yeah, I mean it's not many. Yeah,

865
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: you better be great on offense, and you know, and

866
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: they weren't. Yeah, you better and if you're great on offense, teams, don't.

867
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: We aren't running it a lot against you, true, true,

868
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: because you get you gotta play catch up. I mean

869
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: that Lion's high game was really showed where they were

870
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: this year because he allowed the Lions just to run

871
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: it over and over and over and they want nothing

872
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: to do with throwing the football. And your offense couldn't

873
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: do enough against an all very good defense to not

874
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: tie that game. I mean to end up with a win. Yeah,

875
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: I agree. Um, if you're looking at the pecking order

876
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: in the a f C, I know we we talked

877
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: about this in the offseason. Let's see if we feel

878
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: any differently about it now. So I think Buffalo, Yeah,

879
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty consensus for one. Two. I'm leaning

880
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: towards the Chargers, but I wish that Andy Reid was

881
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: coaching the Chargers or Belichick was coaching Chargers, right. I

882
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: love their team. I love Herbert. I honestly think if

883
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: we have this conversation a year from now, we might

884
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: be like, I think Herbert might be the best quarterback

885
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, I think that's possible. They

886
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: have a line, they have playmakers on defense. They might

887
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: be my still night to Kansas City deserves a lot

888
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: of respect, though. I know they're gonna play differently this year.

889
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: But Andy read my homes is a pretty lethal combination.

890
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: It would be your two, um, one of those two,

891
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: or Baltimore, since he wouldn't be someone from the South. No,

892
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: I don'tn't think. I don't think it's a team from

893
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: the South. I would probably lean towards I kind of

894
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: like the Chargers as well. I don't. I don't love them. Um,

895
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: they didn't make the playoffs last year. They got a

896
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: better roster in the Steelers. They both neither one could

897
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: so off the run. But I'll take that team over.

898
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: You know what Tomlin had last year? Uh? Yeah, I

899
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: mean so, I think it's you know, it's still to

900
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: be determined, but I think it's their tears, and I

901
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: think you can say, Okay, Buffalo, I think it's on.

902
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: It might be on their own tier probably, and then

903
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: that and then that second tier is the teams you

904
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: just Chargers, Casey, and I might think about maybe can

905
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: Indianapolis be in that tier? Can Baltimore be in that tier?

906
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm cold since he could Denver, I might put those four.

907
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: I think the things are gonna go wrong there those

908
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: four might be Tier three for me, but Denver's the

909
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: worst of them. Yeah, I trust the Colts. I just

910
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: don't think they have a high enough ceiling to beat

911
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: the good teams. Like I think they'll win the division. Yeah,

912
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm not high on the Titans. I think this is

913
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: disaster times. I think I think the Colts can win

914
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: eleven games, Yeah, win four or five in the division,

915
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: which case you're you're going to be in the top

916
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: T three or four. And yeah, I don't think they

917
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: have a hard schedule either. And I think Matt Ryan's

918
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: an upgrade. Yeah, you know they'll protect him well and

919
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: you know he'll do he'll be smart with the football. Um.

920
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: And then after that you're looking at it, who's the

921
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Steelers tier for you? I think the Steelers here is

922
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: and I think they're they're right after those teams. I

923
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: think you're looking at Miami, New England, New England Raiders, Yes,

924
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee or do you even I'm not sold on Tennessee

925
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: them to do with Tennessee, I'm curious what they're over

926
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: underwind total is because unless it's remarkably low, I would

927
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: go under. And I think it's a definite like bottom Yeah,

928
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: Jacksonville still in that Jet Jets are still in that,

929
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: Houston still in that. I'm mu sure where you put

930
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean, I would put the Browns on

931
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: the Steeler here if if the Shawn Watson is not playing,

932
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: the Browns are in that last year, I agree, I

933
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: agree they I mean I like their chances of beating Jacksonville,

934
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: the Jets in Houston. I mean they started season against Carolina.

935
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: That'll be a big test for them. What your Kobe

936
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: ber said at quarterback. If that's the case, it's very

937
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: losable game. Absolutely, absolutely, especially if if Baker's starting. Yeah,

938
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure he will be and I'm sure he will

939
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: be right, the brown will favor be a little juice

940
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: up for that. It's in it's in Carolina, I know,

941
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: I know. I bet the Browns are favored, and I

942
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: bet I bet on the Panthers maybe even if talking

943
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: to play what I'm talking about, right, I keep saying

944
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: that like, oh maybe he doesn't can spend it. Of

945
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: course he's getting He's not gonna be their Week one. Yeah,

946
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: when the Steelers get them again, you know the other

947
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: heads I want to say it's week three, he won't

948
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: be there. For that either a Thursday night game is

949
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: right after the yeah, right, right, right, yeah, but that

950
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 1: looked like a danger zone because he's a short week.

951
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: But he's not gonna be there for that something. That's

952
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: that's again when you look at that Steelers over under

953
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: for wind total that week three games in Cleveland. Oh,

954
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: it's a Thursday night game, so it's a short week, right,

955
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: But if it's Jacobi per set, if you're just looking

956
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: on paper, you think, well, I'm gonna count that against

957
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: the Steelers for the wind total bet. But I'll take

958
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: my chances in that situation set preparing for this defense

959
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: on a super short week, you know, right, I like

960
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: their shot on that one. And even Watson when they

961
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: if he's there for the second Steeler game, when's the

962
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: last time he played football? That's the other Right, I'm

963
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: sure he could be phenomenal. I mean, I know he

964
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: can be phenomenal, but I can't believe there won't be

965
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: rusted his first couple of games back from suspension, whether

966
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: they're late this year or let alone there next year.

967
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: Playing a little bit in the priests, he's knocking him

968
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: and I would play him in the preseason. I think

969
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: they have to because we get hurt. I mean, if

970
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: it's a minor injury, he's not gonna play for a

971
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: while anyway. You know, you don't have to protect him

972
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: like you do other guys. Well, what would happen to

973
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: them if let's let's let's say Brossette got hurt me,

974
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy's your only option at this at that point, Yeah,

975
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: who knows. He may be a seahawk by then or whatever. Yeah,

976
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: you just don't know what's gonna happen with that said,

977
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: he he still hasn't started throwing, like they said, Well,

978
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: he's been clear to throw, but they're not. They're not

979
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: having him do it. No, right, there's no video of

980
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: him out there, got an out routes. I mean them

981
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: saying he's ready to throw. It is different than and

982
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: that's another one if you pick him up. Is he

983
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: really ready for week one? It's not that far away.

984
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean we got the Hall of Fame game next week. Yeah. Yeah,

985
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that, Yeah, it really is. We're

986
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna watch live football with people going full speed against

987
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: each one another. I think Thursday, right, Yeah, that's next

988
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Very cool. Can't wait? I can't wait? Yeah, um,

989
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: so today's practice, uh, you know, the steeling of honor. Yeah,

990
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about the ring all that much.

991
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: I did with West a little bit, but certainly uh

992
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: uh you know looking at that that crew that went in,

993
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Myron just touches my heart. I mean, you knew him

994
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: personally a little bit. I'd never met him as a

995
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: media guy. But I mean, I tell stand this all

996
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: the time that growing up my kitchen, there was a

997
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: transistor radio in the corner and I think Myron was

998
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: on from six to eight and Stan was on from

999
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: like eight to nine, and it was every night. My

1000
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: mom hated it during dinner, but it was always on,

1001
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: and I I was shooting nerf Oops in the kitchen

1002
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: and listen to Iron all every night. You know. I

1003
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: called in a couple of times, you know, I mean,

1004
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's a childhood favorite. Yeah, So Myron Cope,

1005
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Peith Miller, Ray Matthews, and Sam Davis a really good

1006
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: group there. Of course, Heith Miller was here at practice today.

1007
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: That Yeah, that was that was nice to see. And

1008
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: yeah that was all the little Miller's, Yeah, all the

1009
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: eight threes running around. Yeah he looks good too. He

1010
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: looks goody good, But yeah, Cope Ope. I mean I

1011
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: have a picture of my first My first Steeler game

1012
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: that I covered was in Barcelona, Spain, that that I

1013
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: covered once I started full time on the beach and

1014
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: we went We flew overnight to get over there and

1015
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: we went straight to practice. Bokward took him straight to

1016
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: the practice shild So I have a picture and I

1017
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: put it on Facebook. Yeah it's it's me sitting next

1018
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: to Myron Cope. Uh, it was Rick Star and um

1019
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Vick Catchman. We're all sitting there and Norman Vargo was

1020
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: there as well, watching watching the Steelers practice and as

1021
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: we're sitting in the dugout in Barcelona in Europe. Yeah,

1022
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: in Europe, it was uh, you know, for for a

1023
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: young guy like myself, that was a big deal. And

1024
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Cope was always great with the writers. Uh, there's no

1025
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: bigger legend. No, And some of his stories that this

1026
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: this facilities are great too. Yeah, but that's gonna do

1027
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: it for today's show. Uh, We're back on Monday, folks.

1028
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday. Don't forget to tune in.

1029
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: We take get wire to wire with Steelers coverage here

1030
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,360
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1031
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