1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,595 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. I 2 00:00:21,715 --> 00:00:26,155 Speaker 1: watched the Republican debate last night, brought to you by 3 00:00:26,835 --> 00:00:32,355 Speaker 1: magic dental implants. No, I'm not kidding. Well, so the 4 00:00:32,435 --> 00:00:35,555 Speaker 1: doctor says, my ears will stop bleeding within an hour 5 00:00:35,755 --> 00:00:42,075 Speaker 1: or two. I have one overarching surprised conclusion. I will 6 00:00:42,115 --> 00:00:45,555 Speaker 1: never minimize Trump. But he is not so far ahead 7 00:00:45,555 --> 00:00:48,195 Speaker 1: in the polls just because of his cult, maybe not 8 00:00:48,275 --> 00:00:51,475 Speaker 1: even mostly because of his cult. He is so far 9 00:00:51,515 --> 00:00:55,675 Speaker 1: ahead in the polls in large part because Ron DeSantis 10 00:00:56,195 --> 00:00:59,995 Speaker 1: is a pull string doll. Remember the Simpsons bit where 11 00:00:59,995 --> 00:01:02,915 Speaker 1: they have the al Gore doll and they pull the 12 00:01:02,955 --> 00:01:05,235 Speaker 1: string and it can say only one thing, and that 13 00:01:05,315 --> 00:01:09,915 Speaker 1: one thing is you are hearing me talk. I will 14 00:01:09,915 --> 00:01:13,355 Speaker 1: have Europe to pull their weight, but right now they're 15 00:01:13,355 --> 00:01:16,515 Speaker 1: not doing it. We want to motivate. I think our 16 00:01:16,555 --> 00:01:19,595 Speaker 1: support should be contingent on them doing it, and I 17 00:01:19,635 --> 00:01:22,475 Speaker 1: would have support in China to be able to take 18 00:01:22,755 --> 00:01:25,195 Speaker 1: to be able to take China and do what we 19 00:01:25,235 --> 00:01:27,675 Speaker 1: need to do with China. If you told me Ron 20 00:01:27,715 --> 00:01:30,915 Speaker 1: DeSantis was not actually on that debate stage in Milwaukee 21 00:01:31,075 --> 00:01:33,195 Speaker 1: last night, but it was just a hologram of him 22 00:01:33,235 --> 00:01:36,795 Speaker 1: being beamed in, I would believe you. DeSantis not only 23 00:01:36,835 --> 00:01:39,915 Speaker 1: repeated all of his one liners from the campaign, he 24 00:01:39,995 --> 00:01:43,115 Speaker 1: repeated his one liner from the first hour of the 25 00:01:43,155 --> 00:01:46,595 Speaker 1: debate about focusing on the mission. In the second hour 26 00:01:46,635 --> 00:01:49,395 Speaker 1: of the debate. He also had this exchange with one 27 00:01:49,435 --> 00:01:53,355 Speaker 1: of the moderators, Martha McCallum. She said, quote, that's not 28 00:01:53,475 --> 00:01:59,235 Speaker 1: the question, governor, and DeSantis answered, I know. DeSantis also 29 00:01:59,315 --> 00:02:02,115 Speaker 1: reportedly left the stage by himself without any of the 30 00:02:02,155 --> 00:02:06,355 Speaker 1: other candidates even saying goodbye to him. I will compliment 31 00:02:06,435 --> 00:02:10,075 Speaker 1: Fox and McCallum and Brett Baar and the producers and 32 00:02:10,115 --> 00:02:13,835 Speaker 1: give them credit for something They did not go all Trump. 33 00:02:14,355 --> 00:02:17,235 Speaker 1: There were no Trump's sound bites. There was even an 34 00:02:17,275 --> 00:02:20,075 Speaker 1: ad in the last commercial break telling Republicans they needed 35 00:02:20,115 --> 00:02:23,035 Speaker 1: to move on from Trump. The flip side to that, 36 00:02:23,115 --> 00:02:25,715 Speaker 1: of course, is we had to find out who these 37 00:02:25,755 --> 00:02:31,115 Speaker 1: people really are and be afraid. Tim Scott gave eight answers. 38 00:02:31,195 --> 00:02:33,755 Speaker 1: In four or more of them, he mentioned that he 39 00:02:33,795 --> 00:02:38,315 Speaker 1: grew up in a single family household. In another, Scott said, 40 00:02:38,355 --> 00:02:41,675 Speaker 1: you can't leave abortion laws to the states. Quote. We 41 00:02:41,715 --> 00:02:44,635 Speaker 1: can't leave it to Illinois, We can't leave it to Minnesota. 42 00:02:44,795 --> 00:02:49,155 Speaker 1: We can't leave it to Illinois. Doug Bergham debated, even 43 00:02:49,195 --> 00:02:52,995 Speaker 1: after ripping up his achilles tendon playing basketball, did you 44 00:02:53,115 --> 00:02:55,315 Speaker 1: know he grew up in a town of three hundred people? 45 00:02:55,715 --> 00:02:58,755 Speaker 1: I know because he included that fact in every one 46 00:02:58,755 --> 00:03:03,355 Speaker 1: of his answers. Mike Pence showed off his extraordinary talent. 47 00:03:03,595 --> 00:03:06,315 Speaker 1: He is the only politic I have ever seen who 48 00:03:06,395 --> 00:03:09,555 Speaker 1: can add lib but make it look like he is 49 00:03:09,595 --> 00:03:14,795 Speaker 1: reading a teleprompter. Asa Hutchinson mentioned the problem of fentanyl, 50 00:03:15,395 --> 00:03:20,955 Speaker 1: which I guess is fentanyl mixed with ethanol. Vivek Ramaswami 51 00:03:21,035 --> 00:03:25,035 Speaker 1: made the interesting choice to wear eyeliner. He also supplied 52 00:03:25,035 --> 00:03:27,035 Speaker 1: the helpful information that he is not running to be 53 00:03:27,155 --> 00:03:30,875 Speaker 1: president of MSNBC. Well, let me tell you that job 54 00:03:30,955 --> 00:03:33,355 Speaker 1: is not all it's cracked up to be. And at 55 00:03:33,395 --> 00:03:37,995 Speaker 1: one point Ramaswami seemed to Plagiariyes, Barack Obama. Finally, in 56 00:03:38,075 --> 00:03:42,435 Speaker 1: his last answer, he deployed every known English platitude except 57 00:03:42,675 --> 00:03:46,675 Speaker 1: prepare to meet Thy God and employees must wash hands. 58 00:03:47,795 --> 00:03:50,995 Speaker 1: All of them promised to do exactly whatever it was 59 00:03:51,155 --> 00:03:55,155 Speaker 1: you wanted them to do about abortions, except Nikki Hayley, 60 00:03:55,955 --> 00:03:57,955 Speaker 1: who noted that no matter what you may want in 61 00:03:57,995 --> 00:04:01,115 Speaker 1: a national band, there are not sixty senators to pass it. 62 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,595 Speaker 1: And the most terrifying thing was that, with the exception 63 00:04:04,915 --> 00:04:08,515 Speaker 1: of Ramaswami, every one of them has a ten times 64 00:04:08,555 --> 00:04:13,115 Speaker 1: better grasp on reality than does Trump. My friend Howard Feinman, 65 00:04:13,515 --> 00:04:17,075 Speaker 1: raised in Pittsburgh, had the mose used on Ramaswami, and 66 00:04:17,195 --> 00:04:23,555 Speaker 1: that word was quote jag off unquote. All of them 67 00:04:23,595 --> 00:04:27,395 Speaker 1: desperately hate teachers unions, they told us. Repeatedly. Asked to 68 00:04:27,515 --> 00:04:29,915 Speaker 1: raise their hands if they believe there is man made 69 00:04:29,915 --> 00:04:32,955 Speaker 1: climate change, not one of them would do so. Asked 70 00:04:32,955 --> 00:04:35,955 Speaker 1: if they would support Trump as the nominee anyway, they 71 00:04:36,035 --> 00:04:38,875 Speaker 1: all waited to see what the other ones would do first, 72 00:04:39,235 --> 00:04:42,155 Speaker 1: and called on it. Christy said he didn't really raise 73 00:04:42,195 --> 00:04:45,275 Speaker 1: his hand, he was just making a gesture of some kind. 74 00:04:46,155 --> 00:04:49,315 Speaker 1: And as the former moderator of one of these megastage 75 00:04:49,395 --> 00:04:52,595 Speaker 1: party debates, I am chagrined to learn there is yet 76 00:04:52,595 --> 00:04:56,115 Speaker 1: another network that does not realize that the solution to 77 00:04:56,195 --> 00:04:59,355 Speaker 1: the candidates refusing to shut the hell up when their 78 00:04:59,435 --> 00:05:02,715 Speaker 1: time is over is to give them like five seconds 79 00:05:02,755 --> 00:05:09,315 Speaker 1: grace and then turn them Mike off. Overall, I don't 80 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:12,915 Speaker 1: know if Trump's absence actually impacts his chances. But I 81 00:05:13,035 --> 00:05:16,435 Speaker 1: do know that it is never a good idea to 82 00:05:16,675 --> 00:05:21,435 Speaker 1: unnecessarily give your customer free samples of the eight other 83 00:05:21,595 --> 00:05:24,915 Speaker 1: leading products so they can figure out in advance which 84 00:05:24,955 --> 00:05:28,355 Speaker 1: one they will buy if they have to. Don't mistake 85 00:05:28,395 --> 00:05:31,955 Speaker 1: this as an endorsement of anybody else. But the in 86 00:05:32,075 --> 00:05:36,355 Speaker 1: house crowd in the Milwaukee arena did not boo any 87 00:05:36,395 --> 00:05:41,995 Speaker 1: of them off the stage, not even Pence. And while 88 00:05:42,075 --> 00:05:46,555 Speaker 1: those two billion brain cells were disappearing from my aging head, 89 00:05:46,835 --> 00:05:51,275 Speaker 1: Trump and Tucker Carlson were pleasuring themselves on Twitter, fantasizing 90 00:05:51,315 --> 00:05:55,155 Speaker 1: about oooh, somebody trying to assassinate Trump and then woohoo 91 00:05:55,475 --> 00:05:57,675 Speaker 1: a civil war. He worried that they're gonna try and 92 00:05:57,755 --> 00:05:59,595 Speaker 1: kill you. Why wouldn't they try and kill you? Honestly, 93 00:05:59,795 --> 00:06:04,755 Speaker 1: they're savage animals. They are people that are sick. Do 94 00:06:04,795 --> 00:06:07,795 Speaker 1: you think it's possible that there's open conflict? I can 95 00:06:07,875 --> 00:06:10,475 Speaker 1: say this, there's a level of passion that I've never seen. 96 00:06:10,515 --> 00:06:12,595 Speaker 1: There's a level of hatred that I've never seen. In 97 00:06:12,795 --> 00:06:17,715 Speaker 1: is probably a bad combination. Now back here on Earth one, 98 00:06:17,755 --> 00:06:20,955 Speaker 1: if Trump is in prison before the twenty twenty four election, 99 00:06:21,115 --> 00:06:23,595 Speaker 1: or maybe even before the twenty twenty four Republican Convention. 100 00:06:23,715 --> 00:06:27,475 Speaker 1: We may have to thank Kenneth Cheesebro, one of the 101 00:06:27,515 --> 00:06:31,155 Speaker 1: attorneys behind the fake elector's scheme. He invoked the provision 102 00:06:31,155 --> 00:06:34,515 Speaker 1: in Georgia law which affords all defendants a speedy trial. 103 00:06:34,555 --> 00:06:37,515 Speaker 1: And this is a real thing, and the calculation is 104 00:06:38,035 --> 00:06:41,115 Speaker 1: Cheesebro's motion could result in the trial beginning no later 105 00:06:41,195 --> 00:06:46,075 Speaker 1: than seventy two days from now Friday, November third, twenty 106 00:06:46,115 --> 00:06:49,755 Speaker 1: twenty three. I'm so far out over my skis that 107 00:06:49,835 --> 00:06:52,595 Speaker 1: when I turn around, I see them way back there 108 00:06:52,635 --> 00:06:56,555 Speaker 1: at the horizon. But the prospect that the democracy could 109 00:06:56,555 --> 00:06:59,555 Speaker 1: in part be saved because one of the henchmen of 110 00:06:59,635 --> 00:07:02,995 Speaker 1: the Eastman Trump plan wanted to get the whole crowd 111 00:07:03,035 --> 00:07:06,595 Speaker 1: of defendants into court in Recado time. That is one 112 00:07:06,595 --> 00:07:10,475 Speaker 1: of the first possibly delightful plot twists in this whole 113 00:07:10,835 --> 00:07:16,595 Speaker 1: dark stretch of American history, as is the continuing humiliation 114 00:07:16,715 --> 00:07:21,195 Speaker 1: of Rudy Giuliani. And no, he didn't go bad. He 115 00:07:21,395 --> 00:07:24,235 Speaker 1: was always an asshole. I'll tell you a story from 116 00:07:24,315 --> 00:07:27,435 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six at the end of this podcast, but 117 00:07:27,555 --> 00:07:30,595 Speaker 1: for now, let's just enjoy the idea that he is 118 00:07:30,635 --> 00:07:32,715 Speaker 1: so scrapped for cash that he had to go to 119 00:07:33,275 --> 00:07:38,115 Speaker 1: a second chance bail bonds in Atlanta yesterday. And he 120 00:07:38,195 --> 00:07:42,315 Speaker 1: went there because there is no four seasons bail bonds. 121 00:07:42,635 --> 00:07:47,475 Speaker 1: I know, I looked. There is Larry Rusk Bail Bonds 122 00:07:47,475 --> 00:07:50,875 Speaker 1: of Jefferson City, Missouri, which claims to serve the four 123 00:07:50,955 --> 00:07:56,075 Speaker 1: seasons area, a little remote for Rudy's purposes. Jeff Clark 124 00:07:56,115 --> 00:07:59,035 Speaker 1: and Mark Meadows both lost their attempts to stave off 125 00:07:59,075 --> 00:08:02,155 Speaker 1: their arrests and processing in Atlanta while they try to 126 00:08:02,155 --> 00:08:04,675 Speaker 1: get their trials moved to federal court. And of course 127 00:08:04,835 --> 00:08:09,195 Speaker 1: Trump goes there tonight. And then there are the mugshots. 128 00:08:09,635 --> 00:08:15,835 Speaker 1: Giuliani clearly took the word mug too seriously. Ray Smith, 129 00:08:15,915 --> 00:08:20,075 Speaker 1: the Trump attorney in Atlanta, looks like he escaped from somewhere. 130 00:08:20,555 --> 00:08:24,475 Speaker 1: Jenna Ellis finally got that high school yearbook photo she's 131 00:08:24,635 --> 00:08:31,635 Speaker 1: always really wanted. Eastman Khrushcheff on acid. But clearly what 132 00:08:31,675 --> 00:08:35,555 Speaker 1: we need here is a go fund me to buy 133 00:08:35,635 --> 00:08:44,395 Speaker 1: the Atlanta jail booking photographer some real lighting equipment. Meanwhile, 134 00:08:44,475 --> 00:08:47,995 Speaker 1: something happened at that debate the night before the debate. 135 00:08:48,035 --> 00:08:51,155 Speaker 1: In fact that as recently as fifteen years ago would 136 00:08:51,155 --> 00:08:55,435 Speaker 1: have meant the ends of the careers of every reporter involved, 137 00:08:55,835 --> 00:09:00,115 Speaker 1: or at least significant punishments and emotions. But the degradation 138 00:09:00,275 --> 00:09:04,435 Speaker 1: of ethical standards in the DC media political industrial complex 139 00:09:04,995 --> 00:09:10,035 Speaker 1: has been so steady and so stealthy that almost nobody noticed. 140 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:13,555 Speaker 1: In fact, I wanted to lead with this today, but 141 00:09:13,595 --> 00:09:17,515 Speaker 1: I just couldn't talk myself into it. On Tuesday night, 142 00:09:18,115 --> 00:09:22,475 Speaker 1: three Trump hoodlums, led by the disgusting Jason Miller, were 143 00:09:22,955 --> 00:09:28,835 Speaker 1: per Politico whining and dining a dozen top national political 144 00:09:28,875 --> 00:09:33,875 Speaker 1: reporters at a Milwaukee steakhouse called Rare. The point was 145 00:09:33,915 --> 00:09:37,475 Speaker 1: to let Trump be there and yet also remain in absentia, 146 00:09:38,275 --> 00:09:41,395 Speaker 1: and to continue taking his shots at Ron DeSantis through 147 00:09:41,435 --> 00:09:47,235 Speaker 1: his vessels Jason Miller, Chris la Sevita, and Stephen Chung. 148 00:09:48,515 --> 00:09:52,755 Speaker 1: They handed the reporters packs of putting snacks, a shot 149 00:09:52,795 --> 00:09:56,075 Speaker 1: at DeSantis and the eating pudding with his fingers story, 150 00:09:56,595 --> 00:10:00,915 Speaker 1: and they gave them debate DeSantis bingo cards, mocking DeSantis 151 00:10:00,955 --> 00:10:04,875 Speaker 1: as dysanctimonious and invoking his varying pronunciations of his own 152 00:10:04,955 --> 00:10:07,915 Speaker 1: name and how many times he says woke and Ron 153 00:10:07,955 --> 00:10:10,355 Speaker 1: Dessentis can melt in the hot sun for all I care, 154 00:10:10,395 --> 00:10:15,075 Speaker 1: Because the issue is not which fascist politicians thugs were 155 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:19,075 Speaker 1: doing the insulting and which fascist politician was on the 156 00:10:19,115 --> 00:10:22,995 Speaker 1: receiving end of the insulting. The point is this, what 157 00:10:23,755 --> 00:10:28,035 Speaker 1: in the ever loving Christ were a dozen top American 158 00:10:28,115 --> 00:10:33,955 Speaker 1: political reporters doing having any kind of meal with any 159 00:10:34,195 --> 00:10:38,075 Speaker 1: three campaign hacks the night before they covered a debate. 160 00:10:39,035 --> 00:10:42,995 Speaker 1: These weren't a dozen frauds from Fox News and Newsmax 161 00:10:43,155 --> 00:10:49,635 Speaker 1: and The Daily Caller, twelve adults, twelve veteran reporters from 162 00:10:49,675 --> 00:10:52,555 Speaker 1: CNN and CBS and NBC and ABC and The New 163 00:10:52,595 --> 00:10:55,195 Speaker 1: York Times in the Washington Post. They thought it was 164 00:10:55,275 --> 00:11:00,595 Speaker 1: somehow appropriate to share a table with not just political operatives, 165 00:11:01,035 --> 00:11:04,835 Speaker 1: but political operatives who regularly encouraged the public to view 166 00:11:04,675 --> 00:11:09,755 Speaker 1: news reporters as criminals, as enemies of the people who 167 00:11:09,835 --> 00:11:15,715 Speaker 1: should be targeted, attacked, assaulted, and killed. Donald Trump, and 168 00:11:15,755 --> 00:11:19,635 Speaker 1: for that matter, DeSantis as well, believes in censorship and 169 00:11:19,675 --> 00:11:23,595 Speaker 1: punishment and lawsuits and revenge and violence, both symbolically against 170 00:11:23,675 --> 00:11:28,115 Speaker 1: freedom of the press and literally against reporters. And as 171 00:11:28,115 --> 00:11:30,315 Speaker 1: we heard last night, Trump is willing to employ the 172 00:11:30,355 --> 00:11:34,595 Speaker 1: prospect of civil war as a campaign plank of some sort. 173 00:11:35,475 --> 00:11:43,155 Speaker 1: And these reporters, not commentators, not TV hosts, reporters in 174 00:11:43,275 --> 00:11:48,715 Speaker 1: the field, reporters had no problem sitting down with Trump's 175 00:11:48,755 --> 00:11:55,035 Speaker 1: employees because I don't know, I can't even make up 176 00:11:55,435 --> 00:12:01,795 Speaker 1: whatever implausible rationalizations they employed for not quitting their jobs 177 00:12:01,795 --> 00:12:04,555 Speaker 1: in horror an hour after the check came and they 178 00:12:04,715 --> 00:12:08,755 Speaker 1: realized what they had done. I've seen the news media 179 00:12:08,795 --> 00:12:12,115 Speaker 1: in this country, and particularly the political news media, firsthand 180 00:12:12,355 --> 00:12:14,795 Speaker 1: for a quarter of a century, and I've seen it 181 00:12:14,835 --> 00:12:18,635 Speaker 1: start bad and narrow minded and subservient in nineteen ninety 182 00:12:18,635 --> 00:12:22,075 Speaker 1: seven and nineteen ninety eight, and then get worse and 183 00:12:22,155 --> 00:12:27,435 Speaker 1: worse and more and more amorl approaching the now perfect 184 00:12:27,475 --> 00:12:30,835 Speaker 1: balance in which access to the people you're covering and 185 00:12:31,035 --> 00:12:36,035 Speaker 1: TV hits and bylines are a one hundred and your 186 00:12:36,115 --> 00:12:41,195 Speaker 1: journalistic ethics are a zero. And if you're wondering how 187 00:12:41,235 --> 00:12:45,035 Speaker 1: their bosses reacted to these reporters letting themselves become compromised 188 00:12:45,075 --> 00:12:47,755 Speaker 1: in this way, and just to make sure it could 189 00:12:47,835 --> 00:12:51,195 Speaker 1: not possibly be more wrong or more obvious, compromised by 190 00:12:51,195 --> 00:12:55,435 Speaker 1: Trump people, well three of them at the dinner were 191 00:12:55,675 --> 00:12:59,715 Speaker 1: their bosses at the table. Rick Klein, the political director 192 00:12:59,755 --> 00:13:03,475 Speaker 1: of ABC News, and Mario Parker, the politics editor of 193 00:13:03,475 --> 00:13:08,155 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News. And David Shalien, the infamous political director of CNN, 194 00:13:08,515 --> 00:13:11,635 Speaker 1: the one who defended the Chris Licked Trump Live town 195 00:13:11,715 --> 00:13:15,555 Speaker 1: hall by saying, we obviously can't control what Donald Trump says, 196 00:13:15,595 --> 00:13:19,075 Speaker 1: That's up to him, and who insisted that Trump's whole, 197 00:13:19,555 --> 00:13:24,915 Speaker 1: you know, attempted coup thing quote does not make our 198 00:13:24,955 --> 00:13:31,355 Speaker 1: approach any different to him. Three bosses, three guys in charge, 199 00:13:32,195 --> 00:13:36,355 Speaker 1: so disconnected from the audience they served, from the nation 200 00:13:36,555 --> 00:13:39,115 Speaker 1: they supposedly serve. Do you remember that part of it? 201 00:13:39,155 --> 00:13:44,515 Speaker 1: Boys so not dedicated to anything but themselves that they 202 00:13:44,595 --> 00:13:47,115 Speaker 1: would break bread with these people. And by the way, 203 00:13:47,155 --> 00:13:50,515 Speaker 1: it would be just as structurally inappropriate if they'd done 204 00:13:50,515 --> 00:13:53,195 Speaker 1: this with Biden people. The only difference would have been 205 00:13:53,195 --> 00:13:55,955 Speaker 1: that the chance of catching some sort of food born 206 00:13:56,115 --> 00:13:59,515 Speaker 1: illness from Jason Miller and Chung and las Avita would 207 00:13:59,555 --> 00:14:04,635 Speaker 1: have been more than with Biden people. And the president 208 00:14:04,995 --> 00:14:07,555 Speaker 1: of the other nine at the table is, in its 209 00:14:07,595 --> 00:14:11,875 Speaker 1: own way, just as appalling. Danna Bash of CNN was 210 00:14:11,915 --> 00:14:15,475 Speaker 1: at the table. I wish I was surprised by that name, 211 00:14:15,875 --> 00:14:18,435 Speaker 1: but I was surprised by this name. If you're hoping 212 00:14:18,475 --> 00:14:23,235 Speaker 1: for improvement. When Chuck Todd leaves meet the press, forget it. 213 00:14:23,835 --> 00:14:27,035 Speaker 1: Kristin Welker was at this meal, along with another NBC 214 00:14:27,155 --> 00:14:32,595 Speaker 1: reporter named Dasha Burns, the chief election correspondent of CBS News, 215 00:14:32,995 --> 00:14:38,755 Speaker 1: Robert Costa, a CBS politics producer named Finn Gomez, Rachel Scott, 216 00:14:38,875 --> 00:14:44,075 Speaker 1: Senior congressional correspondent of ABC, Shane Goldmacher, national political correspondent 217 00:14:44,195 --> 00:14:48,035 Speaker 1: New York Times, Rob Crilly, White House correspondent of the 218 00:14:48,155 --> 00:14:51,275 Speaker 1: UK's Daily Mail, And if that name sounds familiar from 219 00:14:51,315 --> 00:14:54,875 Speaker 1: a previous episode, Rob Crilly is the guy who started 220 00:14:54,915 --> 00:14:58,235 Speaker 1: the whole Biden no comment on Hawaii right wing feeding 221 00:14:58,275 --> 00:15:01,355 Speaker 1: frenzy because he was the pool reporter who never heard 222 00:15:01,435 --> 00:15:05,035 Speaker 1: President Biden say that, but he and some other people 223 00:15:05,155 --> 00:15:08,635 Speaker 1: thought they could read Biden's lips at distance, and so 224 00:15:08,715 --> 00:15:11,995 Speaker 1: they attributed the quote to him. Rob Curley's the only 225 00:15:12,035 --> 00:15:13,915 Speaker 1: one of the twelve at the table here who did not, 226 00:15:14,075 --> 00:15:18,515 Speaker 1: to my mind, forfeit his journalistic reputation, because there wasn't 227 00:15:18,555 --> 00:15:23,475 Speaker 1: anything to forfeit. If you have been keeping count, and 228 00:15:23,555 --> 00:15:26,435 Speaker 1: no I'm not expecting that you have, you would have 229 00:15:26,555 --> 00:15:30,395 Speaker 1: noticed that's only eleven names because The last of the 230 00:15:30,475 --> 00:15:37,795 Speaker 1: dozen is to me genuinely shocking. Josh Dawsey Political Investigation's 231 00:15:37,915 --> 00:15:41,355 Speaker 1: Washington Post. He has been part of virtually every major 232 00:15:41,515 --> 00:15:45,475 Speaker 1: Washington Post Trump story for years, all the document stuff, 233 00:15:45,675 --> 00:15:48,915 Speaker 1: all the Special Council stuff. Do you know what the 234 00:15:48,955 --> 00:15:51,595 Speaker 1: Trump people think of him? Do you know what they 235 00:15:51,595 --> 00:15:54,755 Speaker 1: say about him? Do you know what they say about 236 00:15:54,755 --> 00:15:58,475 Speaker 1: what they intend to do to the Washington Post? Does he? 237 00:15:59,675 --> 00:16:03,435 Speaker 1: And he breaks bread with them, he allows himself to 238 00:16:03,475 --> 00:16:08,315 Speaker 1: be seen with them. And please don't try to defend 239 00:16:08,355 --> 00:16:11,075 Speaker 1: this by saying that this is a way to cultivate sources, 240 00:16:11,475 --> 00:16:18,715 Speaker 1: because guess what, the Trump guys are also simultaneously cultivating you. 241 00:16:20,035 --> 00:16:22,995 Speaker 1: And frankly, the last six seven years of source reporting 242 00:16:23,075 --> 00:16:26,235 Speaker 1: on Trump shows that the Trump people are better at 243 00:16:26,275 --> 00:16:29,315 Speaker 1: it than the American political reporters are. But look at 244 00:16:29,315 --> 00:16:32,875 Speaker 1: all those scoops Woodward and Costa and Haberman and the 245 00:16:32,915 --> 00:16:38,875 Speaker 1: others got and didn't put in their newspapers, but just 246 00:16:39,195 --> 00:16:46,155 Speaker 1: sort of held onto, sat on buried for years. Woodward 247 00:16:46,235 --> 00:16:49,315 Speaker 1: about COVID and the danger it presented to the country 248 00:16:49,355 --> 00:16:53,755 Speaker 1: in real time, sat on them until they could cash 249 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:58,515 Speaker 1: that book advance. And the politicians all smiled quietly to 250 00:16:58,595 --> 00:17:02,435 Speaker 1: themselves and said they didn't even notice that we got 251 00:17:02,475 --> 00:17:05,875 Speaker 1: them to not report something bad about it for like 252 00:17:06,075 --> 00:17:11,275 Speaker 1: twenty eight months. Jesus are they stupid? And please also 253 00:17:11,315 --> 00:17:15,315 Speaker 1: don't reply or defend this by saying that maybe manipulation 254 00:17:15,395 --> 00:17:18,435 Speaker 1: of reporters is a serious risk, okay, but a dinner 255 00:17:18,515 --> 00:17:22,915 Speaker 1: like that that can still just safely show professionalism and 256 00:17:22,995 --> 00:17:26,435 Speaker 1: courtesy on Dossy's part and the part of the other eleven. 257 00:17:26,835 --> 00:17:29,515 Speaker 1: It is quite the opposite. You are not supposed to 258 00:17:29,595 --> 00:17:34,355 Speaker 1: have personal relationships with key figures in a presidential campaign 259 00:17:34,755 --> 00:17:39,155 Speaker 1: or an administration. Some contact is going to be inevitable. 260 00:17:39,395 --> 00:17:42,955 Speaker 1: And no, it doesn't necessarily have to be adversarial, even 261 00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:45,915 Speaker 1: with the worst of them, but it has to be 262 00:17:45,995 --> 00:17:50,155 Speaker 1: minimal and only when necessary. And going to dinner with 263 00:17:50,275 --> 00:17:53,395 Speaker 1: a bunch of them as they roll out their attacks 264 00:17:53,475 --> 00:17:57,755 Speaker 1: on another candidate their gimmicks, there's nothing minimal or necessary 265 00:17:57,795 --> 00:18:04,075 Speaker 1: about that. And then again, it's who these people are. 266 00:18:05,515 --> 00:18:08,795 Speaker 1: Those three Trump people include one of the more morally 267 00:18:08,915 --> 00:18:12,395 Speaker 1: bankrupt members of the Trump administration in Miller, and the 268 00:18:12,475 --> 00:18:17,075 Speaker 1: goonish former fight promoter Chung and Lasavita, who rose to 269 00:18:17,155 --> 00:18:19,955 Speaker 1: prominence as one of the people behind the infamous swift 270 00:18:20,035 --> 00:18:23,435 Speaker 1: boat smear campaign against John Kerry. These are not just 271 00:18:24,155 --> 00:18:32,995 Speaker 1: sleezebag characters. These are anti journalists. And even if they 272 00:18:33,035 --> 00:18:36,195 Speaker 1: really weren't, let me tell you a story from the 273 00:18:36,275 --> 00:18:40,155 Speaker 1: not so distant past. When I finally dived into the 274 00:18:40,195 --> 00:18:43,755 Speaker 1: deep end of political commentary in August two thousand and six, 275 00:18:44,595 --> 00:18:46,515 Speaker 1: I got a lot of support from a lot of 276 00:18:46,515 --> 00:18:51,715 Speaker 1: prominent people in politics, and many formerly in government. And 277 00:18:51,755 --> 00:18:53,955 Speaker 1: there's nothing like getting a phone call and the guy 278 00:18:53,995 --> 00:18:57,035 Speaker 1: on the other end says, Keith, Hi, this is George McGovern. 279 00:18:58,355 --> 00:19:01,955 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. And there wasn't a damn thing wrong 280 00:19:01,995 --> 00:19:05,635 Speaker 1: with their phone calls or their notes of support. But 281 00:19:05,875 --> 00:19:09,355 Speaker 1: far and away the most support, and the most valuable 282 00:19:09,435 --> 00:19:15,315 Speaker 1: support came from former President Bill Clinton. Within three weeks 283 00:19:15,315 --> 00:19:18,555 Speaker 1: of my first special comment I got an invitation and 284 00:19:18,595 --> 00:19:21,555 Speaker 1: they said it was at President Clinton's personal direction, to 285 00:19:21,635 --> 00:19:25,675 Speaker 1: attend the Clinton Global Initiative here in New York and 286 00:19:25,715 --> 00:19:28,515 Speaker 1: then to join a private meet up with him. He 287 00:19:28,555 --> 00:19:31,635 Speaker 1: wanted to say hello. I went to my bosses at 288 00:19:31,715 --> 00:19:34,155 Speaker 1: NBC News to ask about the ethics. They were good 289 00:19:34,155 --> 00:19:36,435 Speaker 1: with it, provided that if anything I heard or did 290 00:19:36,555 --> 00:19:39,035 Speaker 1: was impacted by going that I make some sort of 291 00:19:39,115 --> 00:19:42,275 Speaker 1: disclaimer on the air that I had been there and 292 00:19:42,395 --> 00:19:46,675 Speaker 1: it had been gratis, when price usually was like fifteen 293 00:19:46,755 --> 00:19:50,275 Speaker 1: grand to get in. President Clinton came down a set 294 00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:52,275 Speaker 1: of steps and came over to me and stared at 295 00:19:52,275 --> 00:19:55,355 Speaker 1: my face and said, hey, you look pretty good. I 296 00:19:55,395 --> 00:19:59,675 Speaker 1: don't see any scars. His support meant the world to me. 297 00:20:01,955 --> 00:20:05,875 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have accepted it. VI was it. Clinton continued 298 00:20:05,915 --> 00:20:08,235 Speaker 1: to invite me to events throughout two thousand and six. 299 00:20:09,035 --> 00:20:12,555 Speaker 1: I went to his sixtieth birthday party me and you 300 00:20:12,555 --> 00:20:16,115 Speaker 1: know eight thousand others, including the Rolling Stones concert at 301 00:20:16,155 --> 00:20:18,915 Speaker 1: the Beacon Theater. Katie Turr and I went as a 302 00:20:18,915 --> 00:20:22,475 Speaker 1: couple to the Clinton Holiday cocktail party at the Russian 303 00:20:22,515 --> 00:20:26,955 Speaker 1: Tea Room. Each time before I did anything like this, 304 00:20:26,995 --> 00:20:30,235 Speaker 1: I went to management so they knew, and later I 305 00:20:30,355 --> 00:20:32,355 Speaker 1: realized that each time I did that, part of me 306 00:20:32,515 --> 00:20:36,835 Speaker 1: was hoping that management would say, no, no, that's enough, 307 00:20:37,955 --> 00:20:40,555 Speaker 1: because I was absolutely certain that it did not impact 308 00:20:40,555 --> 00:20:42,595 Speaker 1: what I put on the air, and that not once 309 00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:44,875 Speaker 1: did anybody at any of these events give me any 310 00:20:44,955 --> 00:20:48,035 Speaker 1: stories on the record or off or try to influence 311 00:20:48,075 --> 00:20:51,355 Speaker 1: what I was saying about them. Nothing happened that I 312 00:20:51,395 --> 00:20:56,275 Speaker 1: even thought of reporting. And then it happened late in 313 00:20:56,315 --> 00:20:58,515 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven or early in two thousand and eight, 314 00:20:58,515 --> 00:21:01,635 Speaker 1: as Barack Obama began to challenge Hillary Clinton for the 315 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:05,555 Speaker 1: Democratic nomination, her advertising took a dramatic turn to the 316 00:21:05,635 --> 00:21:10,835 Speaker 1: right as the primaries approached, and so did Obama. Suddenly 317 00:21:10,915 --> 00:21:14,915 Speaker 1: there was this commercial. It's three am and your children 318 00:21:14,995 --> 00:21:17,435 Speaker 1: are safe in a sleep, But there's a phone in 319 00:21:17,435 --> 00:21:22,355 Speaker 1: the White House and it's ringing. Something's happening in the world. 320 00:21:22,635 --> 00:21:25,995 Speaker 1: Your vote will decide who answers that call, whether it's 321 00:21:25,995 --> 00:21:29,995 Speaker 1: someone who already knows the world's leaders, knows the military, 322 00:21:30,195 --> 00:21:33,275 Speaker 1: someone tested and ready to lead in a dangerous world. 323 00:21:34,035 --> 00:21:36,955 Speaker 1: It's three am, and your children are safe in asleep. 324 00:21:37,475 --> 00:21:41,195 Speaker 1: Who do you want answering the phone? I'm Hillary Clinton 325 00:21:41,235 --> 00:21:45,715 Speaker 1: and I approved this message. First time I saw that ad, 326 00:21:45,755 --> 00:21:49,155 Speaker 1: I was stunned. I thought until the last line it 327 00:21:49,195 --> 00:21:53,035 Speaker 1: was a John McCain ad, or maybe a Giuliani. It's 328 00:21:53,115 --> 00:21:56,515 Speaker 1: sure as hell wasn't a Democratic ad. And as I 329 00:21:56,675 --> 00:22:00,395 Speaker 1: contemplated as a commentator, again not as a reporter, what 330 00:22:00,595 --> 00:22:03,795 Speaker 1: to say about that ad and the implications of it, 331 00:22:04,315 --> 00:22:11,355 Speaker 1: I hesitated. I knew Hillary Clinton. I knew Bill Clinton. 332 00:22:12,235 --> 00:22:16,915 Speaker 1: I was now imagining mitigating factors in this. They couldn't 333 00:22:16,915 --> 00:22:20,035 Speaker 1: know about it, or they didn't see the final version, 334 00:22:20,115 --> 00:22:22,235 Speaker 1: or they did it reluctantly, or they wouldn't do it again. 335 00:22:22,315 --> 00:22:28,115 Speaker 1: Certainly after the blowback, all my instincts said, Nah, she's 336 00:22:28,195 --> 00:22:32,955 Speaker 1: decided she needs a Republican ad to attack Obama's supposed inexperience. 337 00:22:33,995 --> 00:22:37,315 Speaker 1: She's willing to put that out and in the event 338 00:22:37,355 --> 00:22:39,955 Speaker 1: Obama wins the nomination, she's willing to leave that weapon 339 00:22:39,995 --> 00:22:42,315 Speaker 1: on the field for the Republican to use against Obama too. 340 00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:51,955 Speaker 1: And still I hesitated. I stalled. Days passed, maybe a week, 341 00:22:52,555 --> 00:22:56,275 Speaker 1: and then it hit me. I was pulling my punches 342 00:22:57,595 --> 00:23:02,355 Speaker 1: because the Clintons had slowly transformed from people I covered 343 00:23:02,395 --> 00:23:06,795 Speaker 1: and analyzed and commented on, maybe had met and respected 344 00:23:06,915 --> 00:23:10,635 Speaker 1: or didn't respect. They went from that to being people 345 00:23:10,715 --> 00:23:16,275 Speaker 1: I knew and liked, and the access to them was 346 00:23:16,275 --> 00:23:21,195 Speaker 1: something I valued. And that's after two parties in a concert. 347 00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:25,715 Speaker 1: I was already compromised. And these idiots in Milwaukee Tuesday 348 00:23:25,755 --> 00:23:30,235 Speaker 1: spent hours with the dregs of human civilization as they 349 00:23:30,315 --> 00:23:36,235 Speaker 1: played Trump's destructive, soul sucking, manipulative game of insult and attack, 350 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:38,675 Speaker 1: And I bet not one of them, not the three 351 00:23:38,715 --> 00:23:42,075 Speaker 1: political directors, not the future hosts of Meet the Press, 352 00:23:42,315 --> 00:23:45,475 Speaker 1: not the CBS news chief political reporter, not the guy 353 00:23:45,475 --> 00:23:47,435 Speaker 1: from the Times, and not the guy from the Post. 354 00:23:47,475 --> 00:23:51,715 Speaker 1: Not one of them. Thought that someday, maybe, someday, real soon, 355 00:23:51,795 --> 00:23:55,195 Speaker 1: it could be those three guys again, sitting around with 356 00:23:55,235 --> 00:24:00,075 Speaker 1: a dozen different reporters, only the equivalent of the dysantis 357 00:24:00,075 --> 00:24:04,315 Speaker 1: pudding packets and the desantists debate bingo cards, whatever that was, 358 00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:07,755 Speaker 1: It would be about them. Let's sit around and have 359 00:24:07,795 --> 00:24:11,075 Speaker 1: a nice meal while Jason Miller tries out his attack 360 00:24:11,155 --> 00:24:16,835 Speaker 1: lines against Kristen Welker as we all try to get 361 00:24:16,955 --> 00:24:22,275 Speaker 1: Kristin Welker fired because she dared to criticize Trump or 362 00:24:22,355 --> 00:24:28,155 Speaker 1: Costa or Dawsy. When the crowd is twelve yahoos from 363 00:24:28,195 --> 00:24:32,035 Speaker 1: Breitbart and the Daily Caller and Newsmax, what are you 364 00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:36,555 Speaker 1: going to do about that? Then, Josh, we are where 365 00:24:36,555 --> 00:24:40,035 Speaker 1: we are in this country because since at least twenty fifteen, 366 00:24:40,635 --> 00:24:44,995 Speaker 1: our political reporters could not and would not process the reality. 367 00:24:45,395 --> 00:24:49,755 Speaker 1: The democracy itself is at mortal risk because of people 368 00:24:49,835 --> 00:24:53,875 Speaker 1: like Jason Miller, Stephen Chung and Chris Lsovita, and even 369 00:24:53,995 --> 00:24:58,315 Speaker 1: if they really, somehow are just good guys doing a 370 00:24:58,395 --> 00:25:02,435 Speaker 1: tough job, the guy they work for is the greatest 371 00:25:02,635 --> 00:25:07,235 Speaker 1: villain in this nation's history and an active, mortal danger 372 00:25:07,315 --> 00:25:10,715 Speaker 1: to every one of them and every one of us. 373 00:25:11,675 --> 00:25:15,275 Speaker 1: Eight years into this and there is still no fundamental 374 00:25:15,275 --> 00:25:18,155 Speaker 1: appreciation in the media that these are not just guys 375 00:25:18,195 --> 00:25:21,715 Speaker 1: who are more right wing than the other right wingers are. 376 00:25:21,715 --> 00:25:24,955 Speaker 1: They're not just some political ops guys. I've been covering 377 00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:28,275 Speaker 1: this type my whole life. They are people who will 378 00:25:28,315 --> 00:25:33,675 Speaker 1: put and have put Americans in danger in America. These 379 00:25:33,795 --> 00:25:38,395 Speaker 1: are creatures who have peddled hatred and racism and homophobia 380 00:25:38,635 --> 00:25:43,475 Speaker 1: and xenophobia, and have manipulated the American media to help 381 00:25:43,915 --> 00:25:49,475 Speaker 1: them do it. Another Trump presidency could easily see prosecutions 382 00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:56,395 Speaker 1: of journalists and roundups and imprisonments, and these reporters' willingness 383 00:25:56,435 --> 00:26:00,475 Speaker 1: to ignore that chance, whether it's fifty percent or oh 384 00:26:00,995 --> 00:26:06,675 Speaker 1: point five percent, to sit there laughing with people who 385 00:26:06,675 --> 00:26:11,075 Speaker 1: are metaphorically willing to kill them and maybe you can 386 00:26:11,115 --> 00:26:14,795 Speaker 1: forget the word metaphorically. That's nearly as dangerous to our 387 00:26:14,835 --> 00:26:18,355 Speaker 1: society right now as being one of the people willing 388 00:26:18,435 --> 00:26:23,915 Speaker 1: to do the prosecuting of journalists. You can see them 389 00:26:23,955 --> 00:26:27,755 Speaker 1: all in the line, can't you, In some funhouse mirror 390 00:26:27,795 --> 00:26:31,715 Speaker 1: twisted version of what just unfolded with the bookings and 391 00:26:31,835 --> 00:26:36,715 Speaker 1: mugshots in Atlanta these last few days. Climaxing tonight with 392 00:26:36,755 --> 00:26:40,115 Speaker 1: Trump turning himself in, Dana Bash and Kristen Welker and 393 00:26:40,195 --> 00:26:44,155 Speaker 1: Costa and Rachel Scott and Goldmacher and Dawsy and even 394 00:26:44,195 --> 00:26:48,395 Speaker 1: that slug crily because the Trump friendly journalists will wind 395 00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:50,795 Speaker 1: up in the same pit as the rest of them, 396 00:26:51,235 --> 00:26:54,915 Speaker 1: all of them standing around in this line, with the 397 00:26:54,995 --> 00:26:58,955 Speaker 1: guards on either side, still convincing themselves that they're not 398 00:26:58,995 --> 00:27:02,195 Speaker 1: really going to prison prison, They're just going in for 399 00:27:02,195 --> 00:27:06,315 Speaker 1: a few hours. And their pal Jason Miller and Chris 400 00:27:06,395 --> 00:27:09,115 Speaker 1: Lasovita and Stephen Chrungk, they'll be coming down to get 401 00:27:09,155 --> 00:27:12,475 Speaker 1: them out any moment now, because we don't jail journalists 402 00:27:12,475 --> 00:27:17,115 Speaker 1: in this country. And you know, even if we do, 403 00:27:17,515 --> 00:27:19,915 Speaker 1: remember that great State dinner we had the day before 404 00:27:19,955 --> 00:27:23,915 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee debate in twenty three, it's personal relationships that 405 00:27:23,995 --> 00:27:27,595 Speaker 1: count in this game. Jason and Chris and Big Steve 406 00:27:27,955 --> 00:27:32,275 Speaker 1: and putting packets, they'll be right over to get us out. 407 00:27:32,275 --> 00:27:43,395 Speaker 1: Of here, won't they also of interest here? Back to 408 00:27:43,475 --> 00:27:46,955 Speaker 1: Rudy and I knew Rudy was a crazy sleeze bag. 409 00:27:46,995 --> 00:27:49,915 Speaker 1: When knowing Rudy was a crazy sleeze bag wasn't cool? 410 00:27:51,155 --> 00:27:53,755 Speaker 1: Also the death of the leader of the Russian Wagner 411 00:27:53,795 --> 00:27:58,035 Speaker 1: group of Geny Pregosi, two months to the day after 412 00:27:58,115 --> 00:28:03,075 Speaker 1: his almost coup plane accident. True, first time I ever 413 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:07,355 Speaker 1: heard of a plane falling out of window. That's next, 414 00:28:07,395 --> 00:28:22,155 Speaker 1: This isscountdown. This is countdown with Keith Olberman postscripts to 415 00:28:22,235 --> 00:28:26,075 Speaker 1: the news, some headlines, some updates, some snarks, some predictions. Dateline, 416 00:28:26,115 --> 00:28:29,715 Speaker 1: Secret Service Headquarters any other day of the goddamn month, 417 00:28:29,715 --> 00:28:31,915 Speaker 1: and this is your leads story right here. There are 418 00:28:31,995 --> 00:28:36,035 Speaker 1: Secret Service internal emails, and they show that special agents 419 00:28:36,035 --> 00:28:40,155 Speaker 1: were in close contact with Stuart Rhodes of the oath 420 00:28:40,235 --> 00:28:43,235 Speaker 1: Keepers in twenty twenty and treated him like some sort 421 00:28:43,235 --> 00:28:48,195 Speaker 1: of helpful amateur colleague rather than the dangerous white supremacist, 422 00:28:48,235 --> 00:28:53,275 Speaker 1: anti democracy convict in waiting that he is. CREWE. Citizens 423 00:28:53,275 --> 00:28:56,715 Speaker 1: for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington got those emails, just 424 00:28:56,755 --> 00:28:59,875 Speaker 1: a few, but enough to confirm that when a former 425 00:28:59,915 --> 00:29:02,835 Speaker 1: Oathkeeper testified, he heard Roads boasting that he had a 426 00:29:02,915 --> 00:29:06,435 Speaker 1: contact inside the secret and that he thought he heard 427 00:29:06,555 --> 00:29:08,715 Speaker 1: Rhads talking on the phone with a member of the 428 00:29:08,755 --> 00:29:13,155 Speaker 1: Secret Service. He won wrong. The emails are from September 429 00:29:13,195 --> 00:29:16,435 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and they pertain to a Trump visit to Fayetteville, 430 00:29:16,475 --> 00:29:20,155 Speaker 1: North Carolina. The Secret Service agent is telling others in 431 00:29:20,195 --> 00:29:23,955 Speaker 1: the Secret Service that he is quote the unofficial liaison 432 00:29:24,235 --> 00:29:28,595 Speaker 1: to the oath Keepers. Inching towards official, he reassures them 433 00:29:28,635 --> 00:29:32,715 Speaker 1: that they are quote primarily retired law enforcement former military 434 00:29:32,715 --> 00:29:35,595 Speaker 1: members who are a very pro law enforcement officer and 435 00:29:35,675 --> 00:29:39,555 Speaker 1: pro Trump. Their stated purpose is to provide protection and 436 00:29:39,675 --> 00:29:42,955 Speaker 1: medical attention to Trump supporters if they come under attacked 437 00:29:42,995 --> 00:29:47,355 Speaker 1: by leftist groups. The Secret Service agent included a cell 438 00:29:47,395 --> 00:29:50,915 Speaker 1: phone number for everybody else in the group, Stuart Rhoades's 439 00:29:51,075 --> 00:29:55,315 Speaker 1: cell phone number. The unnamed Secret Service agent was either 440 00:29:55,355 --> 00:29:58,595 Speaker 1: amazingly naive or he thought his colleagues were and he 441 00:29:58,635 --> 00:30:00,795 Speaker 1: could sell them on the Oath Keepers as some kind 442 00:30:00,835 --> 00:30:04,115 Speaker 1: of older boy scout troupe. He never once mentioned the 443 00:30:04,115 --> 00:30:06,995 Speaker 1: other stuff, the stuff they got. Rhodes and other members 444 00:30:07,035 --> 00:30:11,035 Speaker 1: of the group convicted of seditious conspiracy and Rhodes sentenced 445 00:30:11,035 --> 00:30:14,755 Speaker 1: to eighteen years in prison months ago. I suggested to 446 00:30:14,835 --> 00:30:18,555 Speaker 1: President Biden that perhaps perhaps the Secret Service was not, 447 00:30:18,995 --> 00:30:22,635 Speaker 1: you know, entirely loyal, and maybe he should you know, 448 00:30:23,195 --> 00:30:29,195 Speaker 1: replace them, all of them immediately. Dateline one hundred miles 449 00:30:29,235 --> 00:30:33,515 Speaker 1: north of Moscow. Well, nobody saw this coming. Guy starts 450 00:30:33,555 --> 00:30:36,715 Speaker 1: to lead his vast mercenary army towards the Kremlin to 451 00:30:36,755 --> 00:30:41,435 Speaker 1: straighten out that Vladimir Putin guy. Instead he stops, cuts 452 00:30:41,435 --> 00:30:45,075 Speaker 1: a deal. Putin welcomes him back with open's arms in Moscow. 453 00:30:45,275 --> 00:30:47,475 Speaker 1: Everything's great, and then he's in his private jet and 454 00:30:47,555 --> 00:30:50,755 Speaker 1: two months later to the day, the plane falls out 455 00:30:50,755 --> 00:30:57,795 Speaker 1: of the sky and this Evgeny pregaussion is meet all 456 00:30:57,835 --> 00:31:02,115 Speaker 1: aboard dead and there's video, lots of different videos. And 457 00:31:02,155 --> 00:31:05,355 Speaker 1: the plane you know, didn't descend her anything like in 458 00:31:05,395 --> 00:31:08,715 Speaker 1: a crash or a deep pressurization. It just dropped out 459 00:31:08,755 --> 00:31:12,035 Speaker 1: of the sky like they do in bad cartoons. And 460 00:31:12,115 --> 00:31:15,195 Speaker 1: the immortal words of Boris Badanov from Rocky and Bullwinkle. 461 00:31:15,715 --> 00:31:18,395 Speaker 1: I send Lady Spy with bomb into room where are 462 00:31:18,475 --> 00:31:23,515 Speaker 1: Moose and Squirrel? Who gets blown up? Me is Dante 463 00:31:23,595 --> 00:31:26,355 Speaker 1: Atkins writes on Twitter. The real shock and the pregosion 464 00:31:26,395 --> 00:31:44,635 Speaker 1: crash is that Russian air Defense hit a target still 465 00:31:44,635 --> 00:31:47,995 Speaker 1: ahead on this all new edition of Countdown Rudy Rudy, 466 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:56,395 Speaker 1: Rudy from America's Mayor to a second chance bail Bonds Atlanta. Yeah, 467 00:31:56,435 --> 00:31:59,755 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with that narrative. You know what it is? 468 00:32:00,115 --> 00:32:02,955 Speaker 1: He was never America's mayor. He had two good weeks 469 00:32:03,155 --> 00:32:05,995 Speaker 1: maybe in two thousand and one. He was a psycho 470 00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:07,755 Speaker 1: in the nineties. And have I got a story for 471 00:32:07,835 --> 00:32:11,395 Speaker 1: you about how I found that out personally, coming up 472 00:32:11,955 --> 00:32:13,755 Speaker 1: first time for the daily round up of the miss Grants, 473 00:32:13,755 --> 00:32:17,395 Speaker 1: morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's worst 474 00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:21,915 Speaker 1: persons of the world. The Bronze the Biden campaign. I 475 00:32:21,955 --> 00:32:25,875 Speaker 1: don't mind trolling the Republicans with billboards in Milwaukee before 476 00:32:25,915 --> 00:32:28,715 Speaker 1: their first debate. I mean, they really do serve to 477 00:32:28,755 --> 00:32:33,355 Speaker 1: get the political media attention, and as we've discussed previously, 478 00:32:34,275 --> 00:32:37,435 Speaker 1: that's quite a feat. But to roll out your first 479 00:32:37,555 --> 00:32:42,115 Speaker 1: national TV ad on Fox News before the Republican debate, 480 00:32:42,915 --> 00:32:46,315 Speaker 1: an ad which will now convert like eight or nine 481 00:32:46,395 --> 00:32:50,555 Speaker 1: voters if you're lucky, and give the salesman at Fox 482 00:32:50,595 --> 00:32:52,955 Speaker 1: the chance to go to other advertisers and say, see, 483 00:32:53,075 --> 00:32:56,315 Speaker 1: we are a legit place to spend your dollars. Joe 484 00:32:56,315 --> 00:33:00,795 Speaker 1: Biden buys airtime from us. Please, kids, ask one of 485 00:33:00,835 --> 00:33:04,035 Speaker 1: us old timers before you try too much snark like this. 486 00:33:05,395 --> 00:33:09,635 Speaker 1: Runners up CNN and Warner Bros. Discovery chairman David zaslab 487 00:33:09,995 --> 00:33:12,835 Speaker 1: back in the saddle after taking the summer off after 488 00:33:12,835 --> 00:33:15,395 Speaker 1: the self destruction of his boy Chris Lickt and the 489 00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:20,555 Speaker 1: entire entertainment industry. Semaphore News reporting that the leading candidate 490 00:33:20,595 --> 00:33:24,795 Speaker 1: he has to succeed Licked to run CNN is former 491 00:33:24,955 --> 00:33:30,715 Speaker 1: BBC chief Sir Mark Thompson, because clearly what American TV 492 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:33,675 Speaker 1: news re needs right now is a sixty six year 493 00:33:33,715 --> 00:33:36,675 Speaker 1: old britt, especially one who, when he got involved in 494 00:33:36,715 --> 00:33:39,195 Speaker 1: BBC News, agreed it was a good idea to put 495 00:33:39,195 --> 00:33:43,955 Speaker 1: the leader of the avowedly fascist British National Party on 496 00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:46,675 Speaker 1: one of the network's regular news programs like he was 497 00:33:46,795 --> 00:33:50,835 Speaker 1: just another politician. Hey, you know, look, if you're looking 498 00:33:50,835 --> 00:33:53,995 Speaker 1: for somebody to both side CNN to death, you know 499 00:33:54,035 --> 00:33:58,515 Speaker 1: who I understand is available, this guy Chris Licked. But 500 00:33:58,555 --> 00:34:01,115 Speaker 1: our winner is the Washington Post. Once again, we are 501 00:34:01,155 --> 00:34:05,035 Speaker 1: all going to die Because Josh Dawsy sat there grinning 502 00:34:05,035 --> 00:34:08,795 Speaker 1: at Jason Miller at a Milwaukee steakhouse. And because the 503 00:34:08,835 --> 00:34:12,275 Speaker 1: Post will keep running headlines like this one until the 504 00:34:12,395 --> 00:34:14,835 Speaker 1: very moment the temperature in DC hits one hundred and 505 00:34:14,875 --> 00:34:20,115 Speaker 1: forty four degrees fahrenheit and the city spontaneously combusts. Quote. 506 00:34:21,195 --> 00:34:26,435 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans divided on causes of extreme weather post 507 00:34:26,635 --> 00:34:33,035 Speaker 1: UMD poll finds. Look, if your poll told us something unexpected, 508 00:34:33,155 --> 00:34:38,275 Speaker 1: like Republicans suddenly realize planet is on fire, maybe you 509 00:34:38,275 --> 00:34:45,435 Speaker 1: could use the dainty language then. Otherwise, just once, just once, somebody, somebody, 510 00:34:45,435 --> 00:34:49,675 Speaker 1: take a stand for truth. Not milk toast truth, just 511 00:34:49,715 --> 00:34:55,515 Speaker 1: real truth. Say it. Democrats understand it's climate change, and 512 00:34:55,555 --> 00:34:59,155 Speaker 1: Republicans are morons who are in denial because they make 513 00:34:59,275 --> 00:35:03,395 Speaker 1: money off being in denial. Just say it once. The 514 00:35:03,595 --> 00:35:08,275 Speaker 1: Washington pro democracy and pro authoritarian forces divided on appropriateness 515 00:35:08,275 --> 00:35:14,315 Speaker 1: of new American Civil War posts. Two days worst, Farstendens, 516 00:35:15,555 --> 00:35:26,595 Speaker 1: and the world still ahead on countdown. The only person 517 00:35:26,635 --> 00:35:28,875 Speaker 1: who may end up in legal trouble after two and 518 00:35:28,915 --> 00:35:32,635 Speaker 1: a half years of the Hunter Biden laptop could very 519 00:35:32,635 --> 00:35:36,955 Speaker 1: well be Rudy Giuliani. It continues his epic descent, which 520 00:35:36,995 --> 00:35:39,515 Speaker 1: began not in twenty sixteen, not in two thousand and seven, 521 00:35:39,835 --> 00:35:42,355 Speaker 1: not even after nine to eleven. I first met the 522 00:35:42,435 --> 00:35:47,475 Speaker 1: real clueless, useless Rudy nearly thirty years ago, coming up 523 00:35:47,515 --> 00:35:49,755 Speaker 1: next first. In each tradition of Countdown, we feature a dog. 524 00:35:49,795 --> 00:35:53,195 Speaker 1: Indeed you can help. Every dog has its day to 525 00:35:53,395 --> 00:35:57,395 Speaker 1: Miami and Snaggle. He is fifteen pounds. He's a handsome 526 00:35:57,395 --> 00:36:01,195 Speaker 1: Shechitsu mix, gray and white and black and curly, and 527 00:36:01,275 --> 00:36:03,995 Speaker 1: he lived in the woods by himself for four of 528 00:36:04,035 --> 00:36:06,835 Speaker 1: his five years. They found him in December. He had 529 00:36:06,875 --> 00:36:08,515 Speaker 1: to be at the vet for weeks before he was 530 00:36:08,515 --> 00:36:11,275 Speaker 1: healthy enough to go to a foster home. Teeth pulled, 531 00:36:11,315 --> 00:36:15,595 Speaker 1: infections cured. He's now fine. Paul Patrol Animal Rescue and 532 00:36:15,675 --> 00:36:17,915 Speaker 1: Sanctuary could use some help with his bills, but right 533 00:36:17,955 --> 00:36:21,035 Speaker 1: now their focus is finding him a home. Because he 534 00:36:21,115 --> 00:36:23,115 Speaker 1: lived as a feral dog, there are all kinds of 535 00:36:23,155 --> 00:36:26,035 Speaker 1: restrictions on fences and other dogs, but if you're near Miami, 536 00:36:26,075 --> 00:36:28,715 Speaker 1: you might be right for him. You can find Snaggle 537 00:36:28,755 --> 00:36:32,755 Speaker 1: on the Cugly website or on my Twitter feed. Donate, retweet, 538 00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:36,595 Speaker 1: or apply to adopt. I Thank you and Snaggles, thanks you, 539 00:36:46,715 --> 00:36:48,795 Speaker 1: and through the number one story on the Countdown and 540 00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:53,035 Speaker 1: my favorite topic me and things I promised not to tell. 541 00:36:53,115 --> 00:36:57,995 Speaker 1: I hear this question about Rudy Giuliani a lot. When 542 00:36:58,115 --> 00:37:02,115 Speaker 1: did his life go so horribly horribly wrong? Here was 543 00:37:02,155 --> 00:37:06,835 Speaker 1: America's mayor the rock in the hours of crisis, after 544 00:37:06,915 --> 00:37:10,795 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. What is he now? After literally years 545 00:37:10,835 --> 00:37:13,475 Speaker 1: of trying to sell the Hunter Biden laptop story. Who 546 00:37:13,475 --> 00:37:20,195 Speaker 1: does the Hunter Biden laptop story bite him? Four seasons gardening, 547 00:37:20,995 --> 00:37:24,995 Speaker 1: the mascara running down his face, gashes emissions at phony 548 00:37:25,115 --> 00:37:31,235 Speaker 1: election hearings, the Sasha Baron Cohen film. I mean, even 549 00:37:31,435 --> 00:37:34,435 Speaker 1: back then, I thought it was nuts that people actually 550 00:37:34,435 --> 00:37:36,995 Speaker 1: thought Rudy Giuliani was the front runner for the two 551 00:37:37,075 --> 00:37:40,515 Speaker 1: thousand and eight Republican presidential nomination. What he was widely 552 00:37:40,595 --> 00:37:43,435 Speaker 1: held to be just that in two thousand and six, 553 00:37:43,475 --> 00:37:47,995 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, and by the time it happened, 554 00:37:48,195 --> 00:37:50,715 Speaker 1: he was already on his way to spending millions of 555 00:37:50,755 --> 00:37:55,515 Speaker 1: dollars to finish last. But it was the final nail 556 00:37:55,595 --> 00:37:58,435 Speaker 1: in the coffin in which he still lives. At a 557 00:37:58,475 --> 00:38:01,675 Speaker 1: Democratic debate in two thousand and seven October thirtieth, before 558 00:38:01,675 --> 00:38:05,075 Speaker 1: the field shook out everybody but Obama and Hillary, one 559 00:38:05,075 --> 00:38:08,275 Speaker 1: of the other candidates was excoriating the Republicans and their 560 00:38:08,315 --> 00:38:12,075 Speaker 1: exploitation of terrorism and the al Qaeda attacks, and that 561 00:38:12,155 --> 00:38:16,155 Speaker 1: other candidates said of Giuliani, quote, there's only three things 562 00:38:16,195 --> 00:38:19,675 Speaker 1: he mentions in a sentence, A noun, a verb, and 563 00:38:19,835 --> 00:38:25,475 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. The candidate was Joe Biden. The phrase 564 00:38:25,595 --> 00:38:28,275 Speaker 1: a noun, a verb and nine to eleven ended Rudy 565 00:38:28,315 --> 00:38:33,155 Speaker 1: Giuliani's career, and Giuliani's dislike of Joe Biden, many decades old, 566 00:38:33,275 --> 00:38:36,995 Speaker 1: turned to hatred at that exact moment, which is why 567 00:38:37,035 --> 00:38:39,195 Speaker 1: we got to where we got to in two thy 568 00:38:39,355 --> 00:38:42,955 Speaker 1: and twenty. That was also the exact moment at which 569 00:38:42,955 --> 00:38:48,235 Speaker 1: any hopes Julianni had being elected anything anywhere ever again vanished. 570 00:38:49,235 --> 00:38:52,315 Speaker 1: But it was clear to me as far back as 571 00:38:52,315 --> 00:38:55,075 Speaker 1: September two thousand and one. That's sadly, what we saw 572 00:38:55,115 --> 00:38:57,595 Speaker 1: at that time was a bad man having a few 573 00:38:57,635 --> 00:39:01,595 Speaker 1: good days before that month was out. Juliani's response to 574 00:39:01,635 --> 00:39:06,355 Speaker 1: the attack on democracy was to himsel self attack democracy, 575 00:39:06,395 --> 00:39:09,635 Speaker 1: to propose that the November election to choose his successor 576 00:39:09,955 --> 00:39:13,355 Speaker 1: to be Mayor of New York should be postponed, or 577 00:39:13,355 --> 00:39:15,595 Speaker 1: that at least he should stay on for a few 578 00:39:15,635 --> 00:39:21,795 Speaker 1: months as co mayor because he was irreplaceable. There had 579 00:39:21,835 --> 00:39:25,115 Speaker 1: always been more subtle hints that Giuliani was never a 580 00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:28,995 Speaker 1: good man, just a slightly smarter one, a more devious one. 581 00:39:29,195 --> 00:39:32,675 Speaker 1: The venomous Rudy, the scheming Rudy, the a moral Rudy, 582 00:39:33,795 --> 00:39:37,115 Speaker 1: the Rudy with a bad song in his heart, leaked 583 00:39:37,235 --> 00:39:39,955 Speaker 1: out from time to time, and often inside the world 584 00:39:39,955 --> 00:39:43,555 Speaker 1: of sports, which is where I met him. You will remember, 585 00:39:43,955 --> 00:39:47,995 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani was a professional New York Yankees fan. He 586 00:39:48,035 --> 00:39:51,555 Speaker 1: always went to the games for free, mind you, dugout 587 00:39:51,595 --> 00:39:56,435 Speaker 1: seats for himself, his wife, his other wife, his next wife, 588 00:39:56,795 --> 00:40:00,235 Speaker 1: the kids, the friends. When I still had friends at 589 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:03,515 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, they estimated Rudy used to cost them thousands 590 00:40:03,555 --> 00:40:07,355 Speaker 1: of dollars every time he showed up. He always left 591 00:40:07,475 --> 00:40:11,635 Speaker 1: via the clubhouse. He always wore a Yankees cap. He 592 00:40:11,715 --> 00:40:14,555 Speaker 1: billed himself as quote the number one Yankee fan. And 593 00:40:14,595 --> 00:40:17,435 Speaker 1: then when the Boston Red Sox were playing in the 594 00:40:17,435 --> 00:40:19,795 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven World Series, when he was campaigning 595 00:40:19,835 --> 00:40:22,875 Speaker 1: for president in New Hampshire, Rudy Giuliani suddenly announced he 596 00:40:22,955 --> 00:40:26,515 Speaker 1: was rooting for the Red Sox. This is like being 597 00:40:26,595 --> 00:40:30,115 Speaker 1: a Trump fan and announcing you are rooting for democracy. 598 00:40:31,635 --> 00:40:36,235 Speaker 1: But I went back with Rudy Giuliani even longer than that. 599 00:40:37,315 --> 00:40:39,955 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety five or nineteen ninety six, I was 600 00:40:39,995 --> 00:40:43,315 Speaker 1: asked by the Deputy Mayor of New York City, Fran Writer, 601 00:40:43,755 --> 00:40:46,435 Speaker 1: and the staff of the Baseball Hall of Fame to 602 00:40:46,675 --> 00:40:50,315 Speaker 1: travel from ESPN in Connecticut, literally to the steps of 603 00:40:50,355 --> 00:40:53,515 Speaker 1: New York City Hall to MC an event for what 604 00:40:53,675 --> 00:40:57,115 Speaker 1: must have been thirty five members of the Baseball Hall 605 00:40:57,195 --> 00:41:00,675 Speaker 1: of Fame, maybe the largest group of them ever assembled 606 00:41:00,715 --> 00:41:04,595 Speaker 1: in one place in one moment in time. The Deputy 607 00:41:04,595 --> 00:41:07,995 Speaker 1: Mayor approached me and the Mayor a few steps behind 608 00:41:07,995 --> 00:41:11,275 Speaker 1: her on that gorgeous spring day. As she began to 609 00:41:11,315 --> 00:41:16,275 Speaker 1: introduce us, she realized he had begun to wander off. Ruddy, Ruddy, 610 00:41:16,955 --> 00:41:20,355 Speaker 1: she bellowed, He wandered back, Rudy, this is Keith Olberman 611 00:41:20,395 --> 00:41:23,195 Speaker 1: from ESPN. He's going to be the MC. You will 612 00:41:23,195 --> 00:41:26,275 Speaker 1: have to introduce him after you speak. The mayor seemed 613 00:41:26,315 --> 00:41:29,995 Speaker 1: to be having trouble focusing on me or anything else. 614 00:41:30,715 --> 00:41:33,315 Speaker 1: I thought of the old joke, just keep your eyes 615 00:41:33,315 --> 00:41:36,995 Speaker 1: on the Olberman in the middle. He extended a hand 616 00:41:37,475 --> 00:41:42,355 Speaker 1: missed mine, then recalibrated. As we shook hands, he grunted. 617 00:41:43,395 --> 00:41:45,955 Speaker 1: The Deputy mayor now roared at him, Rody, you have 618 00:41:46,035 --> 00:41:49,795 Speaker 1: to introduce him. His name is Keith Olberman from ESPN. 619 00:41:50,035 --> 00:41:54,995 Speaker 1: He's the MC. Juliani turned and looked at her like 620 00:41:55,075 --> 00:41:59,155 Speaker 1: he'd never seen her before. He grunted again. Deputy Mayor 621 00:41:59,275 --> 00:42:03,475 Speaker 1: Writer now screamed at Rudy Giuliani, repeat it to me. 622 00:42:05,915 --> 00:42:08,275 Speaker 1: He looked at me, then he looked back at her, 623 00:42:08,795 --> 00:42:12,395 Speaker 1: and he said, his name is Keith Alderman from ESPN. 624 00:42:12,555 --> 00:42:17,235 Speaker 1: He's the MC. With annoyance. Writer said thank you, and 625 00:42:17,315 --> 00:42:22,835 Speaker 1: Juliani smiled and wandered off again. And I half seriously thought, 626 00:42:23,835 --> 00:42:27,435 Speaker 1: did I just meet a body double? Is he a replicant? 627 00:42:28,275 --> 00:42:31,315 Speaker 1: Is he a well built robot? This can't be the 628 00:42:31,355 --> 00:42:35,715 Speaker 1: actual mayor? Well it was. I took my seat in 629 00:42:35,795 --> 00:42:37,635 Speaker 1: the front row of the stage that had been built 630 00:42:37,635 --> 00:42:40,275 Speaker 1: atop the City Hall steps. As the crowd gathered, and 631 00:42:40,315 --> 00:42:42,675 Speaker 1: it was a good one, maybe three or four hundred people. 632 00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:46,235 Speaker 1: The President of the Hall of Fame spoke first. The 633 00:42:46,235 --> 00:42:49,835 Speaker 1: Mayor sat next to me. Juliani leaned in at one 634 00:42:49,875 --> 00:42:53,395 Speaker 1: point and whispered to me, your name is Keith Alderman 635 00:42:53,795 --> 00:42:59,435 Speaker 1: from ESPN. You're the MC, I talk, I introduce you. 636 00:43:00,715 --> 00:43:04,435 Speaker 1: I said something encouraging, and he smiled broadly, like a 637 00:43:04,995 --> 00:43:09,115 Speaker 1: who was about to get some candy. The President of 638 00:43:09,115 --> 00:43:11,635 Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame wrapped up introduced Juliani, who 639 00:43:11,635 --> 00:43:14,355 Speaker 1: bounced up to the stage and thanked him and got 640 00:43:14,395 --> 00:43:17,475 Speaker 1: his name wrong. He then launched into a speech taking 641 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:20,195 Speaker 1: credit for the great weather and the terrific early season 642 00:43:20,195 --> 00:43:22,115 Speaker 1: performance of the New York Yankees and the New York 643 00:43:22,115 --> 00:43:26,315 Speaker 1: Mets and the Brooklyn Dodgers and the New York Giants 644 00:43:26,355 --> 00:43:28,555 Speaker 1: who had moved out of New York in nineteen fifty seven. 645 00:43:28,595 --> 00:43:30,275 Speaker 1: But if he had been mayor, then they wouldn't have 646 00:43:30,315 --> 00:43:32,115 Speaker 1: moved out in New York, would have the four teams 647 00:43:32,115 --> 00:43:34,395 Speaker 1: it deserves. And look at all these great players. Let 648 00:43:34,395 --> 00:43:35,915 Speaker 1: me now turn it over to a good friend of 649 00:43:35,955 --> 00:43:38,355 Speaker 1: mine and a great baseball man. And he looked at 650 00:43:38,395 --> 00:43:47,435 Speaker 1: me and he forgot everything. Silence, titters of laughter from 651 00:43:47,435 --> 00:43:50,635 Speaker 1: the crowd. And finally he looked the other way behind him, 652 00:43:50,755 --> 00:43:53,515 Speaker 1: where the Deputy Mayor had her head in her hands. 653 00:43:54,275 --> 00:43:57,635 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani into a microphone that picked up everything he said, 654 00:43:58,155 --> 00:44:03,675 Speaker 1: said loudly what's his name? Who is he? And now 655 00:44:03,995 --> 00:44:06,755 Speaker 1: the titters of laughter in the crowd turned to a 656 00:44:06,795 --> 00:44:08,955 Speaker 1: little bit louder laughter, and some of the Hall of 657 00:44:08,995 --> 00:44:12,635 Speaker 1: Fame players seated behind me gave me pats of consolation 658 00:44:12,715 --> 00:44:17,875 Speaker 1: on my shoulder. Fran Ryder screamed, Keith Olverman from me, ESPN, DMC, 659 00:44:18,275 --> 00:44:23,595 Speaker 1: you repeated it to me. Juliani turned back to the 660 00:44:23,595 --> 00:44:25,435 Speaker 1: crowd as if there had been no way they could 661 00:44:25,475 --> 00:44:27,795 Speaker 1: have heard or seen any of this, and he said, 662 00:44:28,435 --> 00:44:30,395 Speaker 1: so let me turn it over to a good friend 663 00:44:30,435 --> 00:44:35,555 Speaker 1: of mine and a great baseball man, Keith Obolman our 664 00:44:36,475 --> 00:44:46,115 Speaker 1: NC from ESPM. I just sat there, more laughs, more 665 00:44:46,155 --> 00:44:49,115 Speaker 1: consolations from the players behind me. I can still hear 666 00:44:49,115 --> 00:44:52,315 Speaker 1: the laugh of the late Detroit Tigers great Al Kayline 667 00:44:52,475 --> 00:44:55,395 Speaker 1: rising above the others. Al later came over to commiserate. 668 00:44:56,275 --> 00:44:59,275 Speaker 1: As I thought, should I get there and say thank 669 00:44:59,315 --> 00:45:04,195 Speaker 1: you Mayor Dinkins, or better yet, thank you Mayor LaGuardia. 670 00:45:05,195 --> 00:45:09,595 Speaker 1: I then concluded, no, I can't do that. I'm representing ESPN, 671 00:45:09,915 --> 00:45:13,275 Speaker 1: I'm representing the Baseball Hall of Fame. As I thought that, 672 00:45:13,315 --> 00:45:16,715 Speaker 1: he said it again. So now I got up and 673 00:45:16,755 --> 00:45:20,675 Speaker 1: I told the crowd, sorry, I wasn't sure he meant me. 674 00:45:22,315 --> 00:45:25,155 Speaker 1: So if you are saying to yourself, what on earth 675 00:45:25,315 --> 00:45:28,875 Speaker 1: happened to Rudy Giuliani with that brown schitz pouring down 676 00:45:28,915 --> 00:45:31,755 Speaker 1: his face? I am saying to you he has been 677 00:45:31,835 --> 00:45:35,515 Speaker 1: this crazy for at least thirty years. You were just 678 00:45:35,675 --> 00:45:40,675 Speaker 1: lucky enough to have not previously noticed. It is all true. 679 00:45:41,435 --> 00:46:00,275 Speaker 1: Or my name ain't Keith Obelman our NC from ESPM. 680 00:46:00,675 --> 00:46:02,475 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 681 00:46:02,515 --> 00:46:04,475 Speaker 1: you for listening. Countdown has come to you from our 682 00:46:04,675 --> 00:46:07,435 Speaker 1: studio is high ontop the Sports Capsule building here in 683 00:46:07,555 --> 00:46:11,275 Speaker 1: New York. Here the credits. Most of the music was arranged, 684 00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:13,955 Speaker 1: produced and performed by Brian Ray and John Phillip Schanel. 685 00:46:14,275 --> 00:46:18,115 Speaker 1: They are the Countdown musical directors. All orchestration and keyboards 686 00:46:18,115 --> 00:46:21,515 Speaker 1: by John Phillip Schanelle, Guitars, bass and drums by Brian Ray, 687 00:46:21,675 --> 00:46:25,475 Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Other Beethoven selections have been arranged 688 00:46:25,515 --> 00:46:28,955 Speaker 1: and performed by No Horns Allowed. Sports music is the 689 00:46:28,995 --> 00:46:32,035 Speaker 1: Olberman theme from ESPN two and it was written by 690 00:46:32,075 --> 00:46:35,755 Speaker 1: Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Musical comments by 691 00:46:35,835 --> 00:46:39,195 Speaker 1: Nancy Fauss. The Best Baseball stadium organist. Ever, our announcer 692 00:46:39,195 --> 00:46:41,995 Speaker 1: today was my friend Stevie van zandt everything else is 693 00:46:42,035 --> 00:46:44,555 Speaker 1: pretty much my fault. That's countdown for this, the nine 694 00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:47,995 Speaker 1: hundred and sixtieth day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup 695 00:46:48,035 --> 00:46:51,235 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Arrest 696 00:46:51,315 --> 00:46:55,355 Speaker 1: him again while we still can. The next scheduled countdown 697 00:46:55,435 --> 00:46:57,915 Speaker 1: is tomorrow. Bulletin says the news warrant till then, I'm 698 00:46:57,955 --> 00:47:02,595 Speaker 1: Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 699 00:47:13,595 --> 00:47:17,555 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 700 00:47:17,755 --> 00:47:22,635 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 701 00:47:22,915 --> 00:47:24,875 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.