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Speaker 1: want to start today with I got got. I got got, Ralph,

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Speaker 1: I got got by a reporter and I dude, I

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Speaker 1: I pride myself on when I immediately see something on T

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Speaker 1: I do not react immediately. I go to that account

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Speaker 1: and make sure it's not like Adam Schefter spelled incorrectly,

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Speaker 1: Pete demo, that is not you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like something close. I might intentionally do that. So I

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Speaker 1: do not get got, and I laugh when other people

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Speaker 1: got got, when I got got today over a Cam

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Speaker 1: going to be out six to eight weeks with a

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Speaker 1: and it was a reputable reporter who I su because

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Speaker 1: and then I briefly did a quick scan of his account.

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Speaker 1: Looked like a legit account, so I quote tweeted it

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Speaker 1: and said, damn, Cam Rising can't catch a break, blah

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Speaker 1: minutes later on my Twitter, Rob Latall is hitting me. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's a fake. It's a fake. I'm like, they got you, boy, man,

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Speaker 1: And then I thought, I don't believe you. I don't

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Speaker 1: being hurt all last year and oh, he'll be back

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Speaker 1: next week. He was warming up in pregame and and man,

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Speaker 1: uh well yeah, this season, they're putting out injury reports.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait for all the college football to adopt this.

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Speaker 2: That was the funniest part about you getting got is like,

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Speaker 2: and we know this from four years of the Pactobal

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Speaker 2: Like they put Cam Rising in such a bad position

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Speaker 2: Then you find out he's got like the Sean Livingston

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Speaker 1: He was liar, He was probable to walk up the stairs.

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Speaker 1: He was probable to do some legitimate rehab.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probable to get rejected for insurance later in life.

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Speaker 2: So like the fact that anybody would have had the

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Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if was that the key to this

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Speaker 2: But the whole thing of like week to week, Utah

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Speaker 2: then Cam Rising had to answer some questions because he's

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Speaker 2: he can't control it. I don't think he's an injury

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Speaker 2: That's not like a thing where where Bro?

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Speaker 1: Is this fair or foul? Ralph?

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Speaker 2: I mean you put you put it out there, you

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Speaker 3: Like, of course they do.

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Speaker 1: Do you You don't think so, I don't mind the song.

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Speaker 1: It's just you can't like if you see it's fair

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Speaker 1: But the thing is is that it's the excessive shit

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna be extra when you're bad. Like Colorado

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Speaker 1: So if you're not a good football team and it

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Speaker 1: seems and you're doing all this ancillary stuff, then yes,

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Speaker 1: people are going to control you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they're following MMA rules like it. Connor

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Speaker 2: But the talking makes him money, you know, so maybe

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Speaker 2: there's some of that philosophy there. But Caleb Williams did this.

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Speaker 2: that it's not encouraged by most coaches, Like bulletin board

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Speaker 2: you messed up. So this week Colorado states, Uh.

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Speaker 1: They've given out all they are Colorado State, between Tory Horton,

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Speaker 4: The hype you know, I know his name because he's hyphenated, Yes,

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Speaker 1: So is that they have been They have been like Colorado,

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Speaker 1: Like they're beyond Colorado level trash talk.

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Speaker 2: And they're doing it with like the calm face and

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Speaker 3: They're like, we should.

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Speaker 1: Haven and a half. I picked them plus seven and

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Speaker 2: But if we can go back to Shiloh Sanders for

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Speaker 2: that somebody's basically said, like, we're gonna have to do

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Speaker 2: It's the most anti deon Sanders thing ever. But so

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Speaker 2: you talked about Dante Daldell, Right, So Shiloh Sanders goes

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Speaker 2: out in the coin toss and he's like, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: roll your ass. And then Dante Daladell breaks a run

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Speaker 1: That's it, that's it. He was used.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so then he said I saw Shiloh and I

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Speaker 2: wanted to punish him. He broke that man's arm. Dante

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Speaker 2: Daldell broke that man's arm instead of.

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Speaker 1: Scoring a touch call the police on the Dante, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's assault. That is premeditated. That is premeditated. Sorry, Dante,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I like this Colorado team. They're entertaining.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch every single one of their games. I'm

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Speaker 2: certainly not gonna root for Colorado State now that they're

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Speaker 2: running away from Wyoming to join a fake new conference.

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Speaker 1: Oh but yes, okay, okay. So the last thing on this,

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Speaker 1: this situation is the perfect time is so there was

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Speaker 1: another report that came out this week that Dion Sanders

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Speaker 1: made sure that the band does not play after Shador

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Speaker 1: throws a touchdown, the way they can play perfect timing

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Speaker 3: I hate I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You hate it. I don't mind it, see it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hate it because they're not winning at the level

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Speaker 1: because they've already gotten people to join, they've gotten people

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Speaker 3: I'm not playing it.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand our warranty. It's almost up. I just

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Speaker 2: I just what didn't make sense to me is that

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Speaker 1: They're trying to keep Power five status ralph and the

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Speaker 2: I just want Colorado State to know that this was

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Speaker 2: not good. You're not good at basketball, You're not good

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Speaker 1: Is this a wyoming thing, like like creeping out?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: But what what is the issue?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't hate Colorado State so much. My got

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Speaker 2: They objectively suck. Fresno State has been good. You know

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Speaker 2: how you said, boys State's good. They put a lot

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Speaker 2: State has done nothing as an institution to earn this.

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Speaker 2: It's the market. It's the market. That they're after. It's

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Speaker 1: You get lucky, man. Sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna feel like luck when Oregon States up

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Speaker 2: sixty seven to nothing in the first half. It's not

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Speaker 2: I should have maybe stayed where I could go five

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Speaker 1: Wow, guns a blazing.

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Speaker 3: It's true I didn't like you.

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Speaker 2: This is how I felt when the Pac twelve broke up,

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Speaker 2: when when rivalry and we got the Apple Cup this week,

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Speaker 2: Colorado State has beating Wyoming as much as Wyoming is beaten.

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Speaker 2: But my issue is now you have a school with

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Speaker 1: That wasn't that. They weren't going to be able to

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Speaker 2: You know the do you watch Multiplicity with Michael Keaton? Yep,

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Speaker 2: Colorado State. What is Colorado State?

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Speaker 1: Get copy?

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Speaker 3: Copy?

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Speaker 1: Like, you gotta keep copying the original because when you

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Speaker 2: Did they say like, we we're gonna be a power conference,

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Speaker 2: so we need our Vanderbilt? Is that what they're trying

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Speaker 2: saying that I want Wyoming to go instead, I want

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Speaker 2: This is my two favorite conferences breaking up in back

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Speaker 1: It couldn't save the PAC twelve. They they needed to

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well this isn't gonna work. And now

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Speaker 2: You see the VISI and you see the vision, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, So speaking of that and conferences breaking up,

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Speaker 1: give us an update on this lawsuit and this big

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Speaker 2: So there's two lawsuits going on right now. One is

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Speaker 2: Florida State has been doing that and the current argument

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Speaker 2: Florida State is trying to pursue to void this deal

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Speaker 2: and essentially what it's and somebody with some more knowledge

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Speaker 2: at Unafraid show dot com. We'll read this on the show.

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Speaker 2: But from my understanding, sovereign immunity is what would legally

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Speaker 2: if king breaks a contract, that's fine because he's the king. Right,

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00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: this is America, don't We don't have a king. We

436
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: laughed at Richard Nixon when he said it's not illegal

437
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: when a president does it. Right, like sovereign immunity, the

438
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: idea that Florida State can get out of any contract

439
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: because they're their own sovereign being wouldn't nullify any and

440
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: all contracts.

441
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they're gonna win. They win

442
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: that when that's gonna throw a monkey wrench in everything

443
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: they're doing.

444
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: The selfish kid's prayer from the from the where the

445
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: sidewalk ends the now, I leave me down to sleep,

446
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: I pray the Lord my soul's keep, and if I

447
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: die before I wake, I pray the Lord my toys

448
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: to break so.

449
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: None of the other kids can play with them.

450
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 2: They said, like, we're going to get out of this

451
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: contract with some premaan nocta year twelve hundred stuff, and

452
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: then everyone's going to be to get out of their

453
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: contract just so we.

454
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Can get the care. They do.

455
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: Not.

456
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: All they want is out. They don't care what they

457
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: break along the way.

458
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: That is true.

459
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: And so this Big ten lawsuit, I'm interested because these

460
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: are these feel like your peers wondering if you're planning

461
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: on filing any lawsuits that you can cut me in on.

462
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: Four prominent former Michigan football players have filed a class

463
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: action loss suit against and the Big Ten network, seeking

464
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: a payment of fifty dollars for the wrongful continued use

465
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: of their name, image, and likeness on television. We're talking

466
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: about Brayln Edwards, We're talking about Denard Robinson, Michael Martin,

467
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: and Sean Crable. Seventy three page lawsuit going after the

468
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: Big Ten and the nc DOUBLEA saying you cannot continue

469
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: to market us without paying us. What could be the

470
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: long reaching consequences of this lawsuit? Could the NCUBA lose

471
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: the right to using anybody's lawsuit or anybody's likeness to

472
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: to promote college football?

473
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do think that this is a like, I'm

474
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: a for the players kind of guy, right, Yeah, And

475
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: I do understand that rules have changed recently and that

476
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: that feels uncomfortable to older players who are like yo, like,

477
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: that's taking advantage of me and I'm not there. So

478
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: I want to be careful how I phrased this, because

479
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: there does need to be some sort of resolution to

480
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: using somebody's name, image, and likeness to to promote things.

481
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: But I do think that there is a level of

482
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: fair use, right, Yes, that the school because you played there,

483
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: should have fair use of like the imagery from when

484
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: you're playing in the game, right, But using your image

485
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: on like a advertisement, like something that they were paid for,

486
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: is not the same thing as putting out a social

487
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: media video or even a billboard that has you in it.

488
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: I think that there's a big difference between those two things.

489
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: That I that if Coca Cola pays Oregon, and Oregon

490
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: puts of a video, oh well actually, and they put

491
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: a picture of George Reich like this is specifically George Reister,

492
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: not George Reister catching a ball in the middle of

493
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: a game, and we're all celebrated, like you know what

494
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean. I think that that's different than using a

495
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: specific person's name, image and likeness to two for your

496
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: financial game. Yeah that that like in game stuff, video

497
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. I think it's fair use. Whereas

498
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: whereas you know, just them put up a picture of

499
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: USC using Reggie Bush and his Heisman trophy when is

500
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: as part of something that they're getting paid for.

501
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: That's not cool, man. That makes me want to deviate

502
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: from the subject real quick. Would you have retired Caleb

503
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: williams jersey and Reggie Bush's jersey in the same press

504
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: release as USC just did, or would you maybe have

505
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: waited a year on Caleb?

506
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so I wouldn't have done it in the same

507
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: press release because I would have wanted to give them

508
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: their own moment, right, I might have done it in

509
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: the same season. But here's a piece of breaking news here,

510
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: breaking news here in the unafraided RUW the god football

511
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: of Posi. USC was trying to retire Caleb williams jersey

512
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: last year while he was still playing, because they put

513
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: all the Heisman Trophy winners in the stadium with their

514
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: jersey retire Okay, so they wanted to retire his jersey

515
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: last year. Caleb Williams said, no, interesting, But do you know.

516
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Why because they already did you think, because they already

517
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: weren't using pads in practice and he didn't want to

518
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: lose his shirt too.

519
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: No, okay, just guessing.

520
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: It is because last season, so they wanted to retire

521
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: it prior to the season. Last year, his attempt was

522
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: to do what last year, to go back to back

523
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: win a second Heisman Trophy, right, yeah, so he wanted

524
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: to So his thing was, don't retire it now. If

525
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I win again, then retire it and make it a

526
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: different color than everybody else's.

527
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: Wild. That's wild. I don't don't.

528
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it, like like like you you know,

529
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: I will criticize Caleb or critic like for you know,

530
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: for the crime in the stands any so this, But

531
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the fact that he was like,

532
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: if I win a second one, yes you should, it

533
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: should be a different color because I am now above

534
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: O J and Matt Lionard and and and Carson Palmer

535
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: and Reggie Bush and and uh Marcus Allen and Charles

536
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: White and everybody else. I am above them because I

537
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: got not one but two, and yes he should be

538
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: gold while everybody else's was was cardinal or what.

539
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: We find the reason he's crying after the game is

540
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: because his plan was ruined.

541
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: You know what, watching Gold Jersey.

542
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: Watching Caleb on Hard Knocks, it made it really clear

543
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: that some of the stuff that he says is just spitballing,

544
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: like you're in a pitch room.

545
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: There are no bad ideas.

546
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: Because he's sitting on the floor talking to I don't

547
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: know if it's Matt Eberflus or the OC and he

548
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: was like, if they put flag football in the Olympics,

549
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm playing, and I'm like sitting in my living room.

550
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you're not. You can't just do whatever

551
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: you want. And that's what he was saying. He's like,

552
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm I'm this is my idea. And

553
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: to watch him express that idea, it was like, oh,

554
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: maybe some of the stuff that's been attributed to him

555
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: was just stuff he said out loud, not even.

556
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Necessarily like like like what let's see what happens. Yeah,

557
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: like there are no bad idea work it happens. They say, no,

558
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm callup the majority of things that what happened. Yeah.

559
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: He talks like a like a mister beast or something like, well,

560
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: what if we fill the twenty seven thousand gallon swimming

561
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: pool with jello and put one hundred thousand dollars at

562
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: the bottom of it. Like, that doesn't mean that that's

563
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: gonna happen if you have the means to do it.

564
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: Some of those ideas are just gonna happen. But people

565
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: have bad ideas every single day.

566
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: So I don't I feel like what has ended up

567
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: on a cutting room floor of mister Beast.

568
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, and it's probably all for different legal reasons.

569
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: But like I just I don't know. I think Caleb

570
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: Williams is maybe just an idea guy and he doesn't

571
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: have a lot of people in his life to be

572
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, we're not doing that. But now

573
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: that you're in the NFL, it kind of has to

574
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: go that way. But you so this lossit back to

575
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: the Big ten lawsuit. Do you think it has any

576
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: standing and do you think it would have far reaching

577
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: effects for the way that people use legends of the

578
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: likeness of the legends of the past.

579
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, this this will open up Pandora's box, Buddy.

580
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Pandora's box is going to be open in a way

581
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: that we have never seen that, like the ends, if

582
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: they win this, it is going and they actually win

583
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: money as opposed who change. It's gonna create a like.

584
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how the NC double A or like

585
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: goes forward. And I'm not talking about justin football, because

586
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: we've already said that football needs to break away and

587
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: be its own thing. But I don't know how it continues.

588
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how amateur athletics continues with Yeah, with

589
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: the big bit, because then if they win, you're gonna

590
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: have all sorts. You're gonna have players, families, Archie Griffin's family,

591
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: and everybody else coming like, hey, yo, where's our money fam?

592
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say this. I think I'm a little

593
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: confused by suing the conference. I'm pretty much pro anybody

594
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: suing the NC double A for any reason, even if

595
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: there is no standing at all. Make their life hard,

596
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: that's fine. I learned this last week about some of

597
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: the stuff the NC DOUBLEA did the Mississippi State over

598
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: the years. Oh my god, dude, like, just reinforce that

599
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: this is an evil organization. So in the nineteen seventies,

600
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: they had nineteen wins stripped because they had a player

601
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: get a twenty percent discount on some clothing at at

602
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: a at a store on campus.

603
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: No, and I absolutely believe the NCUBLEA did this, But

604
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: because he got a twenty percent discount.

605
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: Discount, so and get ready for the twist. So at

606
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: that time, you were allowed to file an appeal and

607
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: then take the gamble of playing that player if you

608
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: thought you were going to win the appeal. So that

609
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: next year they played that player that they had all

610
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: that had the previous years win stripped. So they're in

611
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: an appeal situation and the owner of the store is

612
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: just like, hey, just call me to testify. This was

613
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: available to every student. It wasn't special for athletes. There's

614
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: bill to every single student. Just call me to testify.

615
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: The NC DOUBLEA would not listen to the store owner,

616
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: would never called him to testify. The appeal got denied.

617
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: What they had already played that full second season, which

618
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: was like a nine win team, they took away all

619
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: nine wins in the future, so they cost them a

620
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: prior season and a future season over a twenty percent

621
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: discount that the store owner says belonged to everybody. Then

622
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: in the nineties, Mississippi State fired a coach over some

623
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: improper benefit type thing, and that coach spent fifteen years

624
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: fighting the NC DOUBLEA over that, only to have the

625
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: NC DOUBLEA end up reaching a settlement with him and

626
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: paying him after besmirching his name and costing him his career.

627
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: So like some of the stuff that they'd have done

628
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 2: to Mississippi State over the years, crazy stuff I didn't

629
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: even know about it. And and I just so any

630
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: thing bad that happens to nc DOUBA as an organization

631
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 2: is at this point fine. And I'm gonna be honest.

632
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: I got a couple of friends that work for the

633
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: nc DOUBLEA, and I apologize to them. They're talented people,

634
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: they could work anywhere. But I'm perfectly fine with the

635
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: NCUBA just being tied up in legal red tape after

636
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: they spend one hundred million dollars to fight anil did

637
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: nothing to set up unifying rules and set us into

638
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: the path that we're in right now that has old

639
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: people blaming the culture and running away from college football

640
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: completely giving up the sport because the NCUBA wasn't a

641
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: leader on this issue. It has them blaming the schools

642
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: and the players calling them greedy. No one ever had

643
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: a problem with the nc Doublea's enormous growth as an organization.

644
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Nobody ever had a problem with administrators and coaches exponentially

645
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: increasing their salary seven x seven x over the twenty

646
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: years from nineteen ninety seven to twenty seventeen, nobody ever

647
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: had a problem with that. But the second that a

648
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: player is allowed to endorse Bojangles, then we have an issue.

649
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: So I death to the NCAA. As far as I'm concerned,

650
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: I didn't used to be in that camp. I used

651
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Speaker 2: to be all about like, well, it's case by case,

652
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: it's moderation. But at this point, Braylan Edwards, good luck, buddy,

653
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: take him down?

654
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: All right? How about this company? How about this company?

655
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Do they deserve to be taken down? Because you brought

656
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: up a story to me that I had not heard about.

657
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: And this is from Perdue, So Perdue. So there was

658
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: this kid named Zachary Spangler and he won the Kicks

659
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: for Cash competition during the Perdue Boilermakers season opener against

660
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: Indiana State by successfully kicking a twenty thirty and forty

661
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: yard field goal. He won a two year lease on

662
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: a car. However, the sponsoring dealership, Roormand Automotive revoked his

663
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: prize after it claimed that kick forty yard field goal

664
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: five to one hundreds of a second later than the

665
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: time limit. After reviewing the footage five to one hundreds.

666
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: That's not even a tenth of a second, because five

667
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: tenths of a second is half a second five to

668
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: one hundreds of a second from when his foot impacted

669
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: the ball. Like that's less time than what like, well,

670
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: that's about what noahen Lyles won the Olympics by. And

671
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about like a kick that means the ball

672
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: has to deflate and reflate and get off his foot

673
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: and everything. This is nasty work. I would never buy

674
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a car from these people never. I hope that every

675
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: single person who saw that and now knows that they

676
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: called it back on this two year lease. I hope

677
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: they go out of business. I hope nothing but the

678
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: bad things happen for this company, not just the people

679
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: who not the people who work there who are innocent,

680
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be innocent victims of this. Do the

681
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: right thing and you can take this hex up off you.

682
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: You do not get good things in life, like just

683
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: ridiculously being evil, like this is evil and they're like, oh,

684
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's just like then we see a

685
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: half court shot thing where the guy had like a

686
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: like his foot took off behind the line, but he

687
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: released it right in front of the line. They were like,

688
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: if we look at it from this angle, His arm was,

689
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: it's everybody knows, this's where your foot releases the I

690
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: mean where your foot goes. In the NBA, it's a

691
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: three pointer if you if you take off from behind

692
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: the three point line and you are Giannis and you

693
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: can lay the ball up, it's still three points. This

694
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: is this is ridiculously tiki tak. This is it was

695
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: a marketing play to begin with. You had to be

696
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: okay with paying it out. It's not a million dollars,

697
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: stop it. This is this is gross, This is nasty.

698
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: They need to get they need to be shamed for

699
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: this rom And just so everybody knows, so y'all can

700
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: spell it so you can google it. It is and

701
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Trey roormand r O h R m A N I

702
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: hope I pronounced that right. The director of operations for

703
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: Bob Roorman Honda notified Spangler that he would not be

704
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: receiving the two year lisa in an email. In an email,

705
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: freaking email. Them didn't even pick up the damn phone. Like, first, yes,

706
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: I know for legal reasons, you may have to email too,

707
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: but pick up the damn phone, and the email included

708
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: four different angles showing him kicking with a timer at

709
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen, and it said the clips

710
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: showed the place the holder placing the ball with one

711
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: point five seconds remaining, and then him connecting with the

712
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: kick as it as it closed in on zero. And

713
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: then the dude replied, listen, I got a car here

714
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: that runs just fine. I'm just more upset about how

715
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: I hit the forty yarder and I'm and they're saying

716
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I didn't because it came off my foot five hundreds

717
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: of a second late. Oh, Ralph, you know how timers

718
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: and sync ups work. It don't matter. I am. I

719
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: am finding the best lawyer available. And they're going down

720
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: like like, so.

721
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: You got people, you got people involved in car dealerships

722
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: and stuff, right that, Like what does a two year

723
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: least at cost even cost a car dealership.

724
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: For for a Honda. So like let's say it's like

725
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: a Honda, a Chord or something one of them three yeah,

726
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: from one of them, like three forty nine, three ninety nine,

727
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: four four fifty lease specials. So now we got and

728
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: that's at cost. I'm sorry, that's the retail value of it.

729
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: Let's say it's four hundred and fifty bucks on the

730
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: max times twenty four, that's ten eight hundred bucks.

731
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: When what they could have done is they could have

732
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: brought that kid in, did a commercial like you know,

733
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: kick you into Spring Savings or something like that, and

734
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: call it even.

735
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yes you come, listen, listen, bro, it's a little

736
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: bit passed. But here's what we do. If you come

737
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: film this commercial for us, you know, take this lease.

738
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: It's good marketing for everybody.

739
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: Right, and and like here's here's the other thing. So

740
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: the thing you brought up the ball State, a ball

741
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: State student's ten thousand dollars half court shot was avoided,

742
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: so it was an arena worker he hit the shot.

743
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: A staff member in formed of me he had crossed

744
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: the land on the shot, penning a review he may

745
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: not receive the money at all. Started a whirlwind couple

746
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: of weeks that kind of like brought up all the

747
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: issues of the third party paid stuff, the fact that

748
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: these prize money things are insured.

749
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: And what ultimately happened is.

750
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: They like I think they ended up ball State ended

751
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: up like meeting them halfway and giving him the prize.

752
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: And they gave the guy the ten thousand dollars. But

753
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 2: there had to be public pressure first, obviously, because these

754
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: insurance companies that are ensure the prizes that you know,

755
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: they're the ones that didn't want to pay it out.

756
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: This is the car dealership directly.

757
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Shame, shame, shame, all right. Speaking of some more shame,

758
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: this is something else that you brought to my attention.

759
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: How do you find all of these things on the interweb?

760
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: So there was an acc coin that was because who

761
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: was it that tweeted it out?

762
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can find that for you.

763
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: It was.

764
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So Eric wood E wood seventy says a buddy's

765
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: son got this coin after the coin toss at the

766
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: Louisville football game Saturday from the head referee. I'm not

767
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: sure I agree with the tails image. And if you

768
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 2: ever like, I've met a few refs, packed twelve refs

769
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: stuff like that, they have some of these coins they

770
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: just carry around in their pockets.

771
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: So here is the coin. On the front end, nice helmet,

772
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: old school football helmet, Atlantic Coast Conference. It looks like

773
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: an old, antiquated coin, like something that you would get.

774
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: Nothing fancy or detailed at all on the front end.

775
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: Now on the back end, it is the.

776
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: Player on his back legs up the I think the

777
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: coin's upside down. I think it's supposed to be a

778
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: center hiking the ball. I think the coin in the

779
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: photo is upside down.

780
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't look like that because of the gold

781
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: post in the cootos. Let me flip this over on

782
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: my on my computer because I don't know about it.

783
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't know about this Ralph. Let me rotate left,

784
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: rotate left. Okay, let's save that image there and now

785
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: let's put this one here. Okay, this guy? Is that better?

786
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Is that better?

787
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: No, it's not better. It looks like a Shannon Sharp

788
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: Challenge coin.

789
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 3: But like it's.

790
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: But but but why the detail on the butt crack?

791
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: Like that's like you you see so many muscles on

792
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: the leg, Like, why the detail on the butt crack?

793
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.

794
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: You didn't know the ACC stood for as Coast Conference

795
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: or ass Crack Conference.

796
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Changed their name to the Taint.

797
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: The mentors and the coin makers out there heads and tails.

798
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: You don't have to be literal on this. It could

799
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: be anything on the tails end of a coin. You

800
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: could just write the word tails.

801
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I just want to know who looked at that coin

802
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, that's it right there. Yeah yeah, I.

803
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: Whoever looked at that coin and said, yeah, this is

804
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: is it right there?

805
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: Licked their lips afterward. I'm trying to see what that

806
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: be like.

807
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see what that be like. All right,

808
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: all right, now it is time for serious business people,

809
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: serious business, because we got to oh no, no, no, sorry,

810
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: we got one more thing. So Thomas Hammock, head coach

811
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: of n i U, he went into Notre Dame stadium

812
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: beat Marcus Freeman, got got Notre Dame people of hogan

813
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: and spraying up on the wall and I you know

814
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: what they want to say from now on, and so

815
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: so they're they're hot at Marcus Freeman. This is third,

816
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: not his first, not a second, but it's third unranked

817
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: non conference loss at home when Brian Kelly was on

818
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: a forty game winning streak. So he's lost to Stanford

819
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: who was three and nine Marshall and now this NIU game.

820
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: And then then to make it even worse, this what

821
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: what Hammock did, just it made the loss worse because

822
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: he obviously he got a lot of media attention. He's

823
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: a running back coach made a head coach that don't

824
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: happen very often, and then everything goes well, and then

825
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: he throws Marcus Freeman under the bus because dude, no, dude,

826
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: this is he It may have been unintentional, but this

827
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: was terrible. This is a terrible look for Marcus Freeman.

828
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: And what happened is Marcus Hammock said, what Ralph?

829
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: So, according to you Pardon My Take podcast with Dan

830
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: Katz and PFT commentator, Thomas Hammock offered to tell Marcus

831
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: Freeman what the keys to be the Notre Dame were,

832
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: and then the two actually did talk, and what Thomas

833
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: Hammick said is like, I want that man to succeed,

834
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: so of course I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna have this

835
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: conversation with him, help him out.

836
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

837
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's so wholesome. And I

838
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: showed you the story and you were like, what the hell?

839
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Don't say that out loud, no, man, because now it

840
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: looks like Marcus Freeman is incompetent instead of smart. Because

841
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: truth is, Marcus Freeman is smart for asking him, like, yo, bro,

842
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: what did you see on film that you felt like

843
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: you could exploit because I need to know because our

844
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: office looks bad. Notre Dames deep is clearly good. They

845
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: shut down Texas and m they didn't allow God damn,

846
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: they didn't allow very much out of NIU either. So

847
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: their defense is doing a good job. It's their offense

848
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: that's a problem. So it's right for him to ask that.

849
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: But the the problem is is that don't say it

850
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: out loud, black man about another black You know how

851
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: hard it is for them to get a head coaching

852
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: job to begin with, and now that you don't have

853
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: these Notre Dame folks who already got their pitch folks

854
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: forks out talking about.

855
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: He'll know what he's doing, all right, all right?

856
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: I personally I thought it was like a wholesome, cool story.

857
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: And then again, I'm a high school football reporter.

858
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: What do I know.

859
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 2: My favorite thing in the world is when after the game,

860
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: everybody shakes hands in a line and one coach looks

861
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: at the other coach and says, thank you for making

862
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: us better today, win or loss, Like the whole point

863
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: was taking.

864
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: That's so cute. Freaking Pollyanna.

865
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: Uh, it's not Pollyanna, It's not Pollyanna.

866
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: I get that there's tens of millions of dollars at

867
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: steak at the collegiate level. But at the end of

868
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: the day, not to quote the NC Double A, but

869
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: most of these kids are going pro and something other

870
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: than sports. These are tests. They're out there testing themselves.

871
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: The results are the results. And at the end of

872
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: the game, it's not your enemy. It's not your enemy, right,

873
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm not calling him no more. But if you're NIU,

874
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 2: if you're NIU, what is your stake in wanting Notre

875
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: Dame beyond just wanting Marcus Freeman to be successful as

876
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: an individual? Why you want Notre Dame to go win out?

877
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh? Because if you're NIU, why do you want and

878
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: now you get to make the college football playoffs.

879
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: Exactly.

880
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: So this isn't even like it's not it's not even

881
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: just a matter of like, you know, I'm just out

882
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 2: there helping my brother.

883
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: And then when you tell people like, why.

884
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: Does your brother need help? He's at Notre Dame like that,

885
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: he doesn't need to set people off. It's that if

886
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: NIU keeps winning, it's good for Notre Dame. And if

887
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: Notre Dame keeps winning, it's good for NIU. So you

888
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: should want Marcus Freeman to succeed if you are Thomas Hammock, period,

889
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 2: because right now n IU is one of like five

890
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: teams that probably has a legitimate shot with their with

891
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: their resume that if they run off eleven wins to

892
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: be the representative.

893
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't want his help no more.

894
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't want it.

895
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what else you're gonna

896
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: say to the media.

897
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: Because you know what, when when next year Thomas Hammock

898
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: is shaking the athletic director at Notre Dame's hand, like

899
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: accepting the job as as a coordinator or his head coach.

900
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: So he ain't getting that fire. But but he might

901
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: be the o C next year, that's what he might be.

902
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Damn well, shout out to Thomas Hammick.

903
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: I just want to give give him a shout out

904
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: because you and I talked about this off air.

905
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 3: Running backs coaches.

906
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: They don't get they don't get opportunities like that, they

907
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: really don't. And he was like a lifelong running backs coach,

908
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: like so many of these running backs coaches are. He's

909
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: with the Baltimore Ravens, he went to NIU, he gets

910
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: the head coaching job, and I just want to say,

911
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: like some of these running backs coaches that you have

912
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: pigeonholed into this job. They could run an offense, they

913
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: could run a team. They absolutely can do these things.

914
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: And it's cool to see Thomas Hammock representing for guys

915
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: like Sean Iguana who got an opportunity at ASU for

916
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: a minute, you know, or just people who are in

917
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: that role who deserve a shot, who deserve an opportunity

918
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: to do more than just coach that position.

919
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: Facts all right, now, we got to get into the

920
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: serious business. It's the money and the picks and being

921
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: right where are we at right now with our picks, Ralph,

922
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: because because of member just so you guys know, Unafraid

923
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: Show daily, well, Unafraid Show picks. I put them out

924
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: every single week. Right last year we were around seventy percent.

925
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: This year we're at fifty percent so far. Thanks Cam

926
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: Rising for getting hurt and thanks.

927
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 5: Uh uh who else, oh Texas text team getting getting

928
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 5: hurt can't cover the over and then and then the

929
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 5: week before it was that stamper backdoor useless field goal.

930
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: So we're dialed in. We are dialed in on the

931
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: on the picks. We just gotta stop letting stupid ish

932
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: happen at weird times.

933
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: So you have you have two separate things going on

934
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: at the same time. You have your picks that you

935
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: put out from Unafraid Show, uh like subscribe share on YouTube,

936
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: and then we have our contest that that that is between.

937
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: The two of us.

938
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: So you're you're five and five in in your picks

939
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: in our contest. You started off two and three in

940
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: week one, I went four and one. But it was

941
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a matter of a couple of

942
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: I'm not even trying to be nice. It was a

943
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: matter of just a couple of plays that that made

944
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: that whole thing happen. So here's the issue. I know

945
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: three of the games that we bet on last week,

946
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm spacing two of them. We were both at one point,

947
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: we were both two and one because and I don't

948
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: want anybody to go back to last week's show and

949
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: clip it, please don't. I've never been more forceful about

950
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: anything in my life than Colorado covering against Nebraska. I was.

951
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: All right, so oh oh, I.

952
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: Got them, Ralph, I got okay. So we I know,

953
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: at one point we're both two and one, and then

954
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: when that Colorado result happened. I just kind of sunk

955
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: into myself and stopped paying attention to all college football

956
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: because that was I was like, oh my god. I

957
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: was like, there is.

958
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: No way, this is the most absolute I've ever been

959
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: on this show.

960
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: So we had Okay, so I have the games that

961
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: I put on the thing. So the the one for

962
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: the picks where Michigan, Texas, Michigan, Iowa, Iowa State, Cal, Auburn, Tennessee,

963
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: North Carolina State, Nebraska, Colorado.

964
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: Right, okay, So so then then you went. You went

965
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: three and two in those games because you were on Tennessee. Yep,

966
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: you were on you were on Iowa mm hm, and

967
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: you were on Texas.

968
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: And oh no, no, no, uh no, no no, I was

969
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: on Cal. Yeah. Yeah, So you didn't you.

970
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: Didn't take Auburn to cover the thirteen and a half.

971
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: No, no thing. So I thought, I thought, no, no, I'm

972
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: pretty pretty sure I picked Cal.

973
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: All right, we'll put that one under.

974
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: I think of the Iowa game though, I think.

975
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: You actually, if I remember correctly, you said you wanted

976
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: to go with Iowa State and then you never made

977
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: a pick, so I wrote you down as Iowa State.

978
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh nice, But I don't remember a good week. Then

979
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: I gave you.

980
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: I gave you Iowa state on the technicality that you

981
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: never finished your sentence.

982
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: I think I cut you off.

983
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: Oh perfect, See I love it. See you're good, good guy,

984
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: honorable guy, Ralph.

985
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: I'll give the total twet him out. I knew that

986
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: we were two and one, and the Colorado thing happened.

987
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: I went to a real dark place. But we both

988
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: had all right, So we did both have Tennessee though

989
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: I had, I for sure had cal. I know that

990
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: I haven't tweeted out the video to prove I was

991
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: smart to cover up for the Colorado stink. But we'll

992
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: I'll make sure we have the numbers right, but I

993
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: believe it's possible we both went four and one.

994
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, perfect, All right, Now let's go with this week.

995
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: Are you ready, Ralph?

996
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: I am?

997
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Because we have the games of the week,

998
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: and and we won't just go with all the games

999
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: that we're that we picked on the unaffraid y'all. So

1000
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Alabama Wisconsin, this is a game these teams have never

1001
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: met in the same well, in in the non conference

1002
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: in Camp Randa, which is honestly one of the best

1003
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: college football environments that there is. I got a chance

1004
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: to play there, loved it, and we are going to

1005
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: see if this Alabama team that got it going in

1006
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: the second half against UCF is really that team or

1007
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: whether they are you know, or whether they're the team

1008
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: that struggled for three quarters and Alabama is minus sixteen.

1009
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: Who you taking Alabama roll time?

1010
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: I guess because is the one thing that would keep

1011
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: Wisconsin in the game and covering this spread is the

1012
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: one thing they have failed to do in the first

1013
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: two weeks. They have not run the ball with any

1014
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: authority at all. Yep, I'm a Twoey Walker fan. I

1015
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be a great transfer in from Oklahoma,

1016
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: but I think the issue is the holes they're opening up.

1017
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 3: It's not enough.

1018
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Alabama just because I remember

1019
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: the Kaylan de.

1020
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: Bor road though Alabama is not going to road very

1021
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: often like their Their non conference games are usually neutral

1022
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: site games, so that's true.

1023
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: This is the Kaelin de boor Alabama, and I remember

1024
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: him in the Big Ten. He had Indiana looking like.

1025
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: What's the what's that college your daughter went to?

1026
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: Lmu Oh yeah?

1027
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: Yet Indiana looking like LMU putting up Paul westead numbers. Yeah,

1028
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: like he had them averaging over thirty income Conference Indiana.

1029
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: So I just I think he understands the big ten.

1030
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever went headed ahead with Wisconsin.

1031
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: But again, if this Wisconsin team can't run the ball,

1032
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Alabama. We have to get your

1033
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: pick on record. I can't cut you off like I

1034
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: did last week.

1035
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: I want to take Alabama to pull away late. But

1036
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a contrarian here. I think that that

1037
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's been holding something in the in the bag, and

1038
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: that they're and that they're fans in the environment. If

1039
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: they can jump up early and you know, go up seven,

1040
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: ten zero, then then we got a shot to keep

1041
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: this thing close. Aside from that, Alabama could run away

1042
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: with it. But I'm taking Wisconsin only because they're playing

1043
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: in Camp Randall and that is a crazy environment and

1044
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: it might cause Alabama to get off to a slow start. Okay,

1045
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: all right, next game up, boy, oh boy. The team

1046
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: that we just talked about, we talked about their media

1047
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: marketing people needing to be shamed for their third party

1048
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 1: car dealership and Notre Dame. So you got Notre Dame

1049
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: visiting per Due. Notre Dame's a nine and a half

1050
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: point favorite. Perdue's only played one game so far this year,

1051
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: and they beat Indiana State forty nine to zero. And

1052
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's obviously one and one. NIU is the lost

1053
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: Texas A and M is to win. So now they're

1054
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: back on the road. They gotta be mad, but they're are.

1055
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: But being mad don't fix bad offense.

1056
01:04:53,000 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: Man, it's a it's a road game. You're still in Indiana. Gosh,

1057
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: what is the history of Is is this a matchup

1058
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: that takes place all the time?

1059
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 3: Kind of like Notre Dame USC.

1060
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: Or Notre Dame plays Big ten teams and ACC teams

1061
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: every year.

1062
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, here we are. It's fifty seven to twenty six.

1063
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: This game got played last year, This game got played

1064
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: three years ago. Notre Dame one by fourteen and Marcus

1065
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: Freeman's first year, and then before that they went about

1066
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 2: seven eight years without playing. So Notre Dame has won.

1067
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: It looks like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

1068
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: eight in a row, but two of those wins were

1069
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: vacated pretty much every single one of them was Yeah,

1070
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't see. I don't see

1071
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: anything in Purdue that I'm looking at right now that

1072
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: I think they're going to compete with the big boys

1073
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: this year. The Indiana State result can be so deceptive

1074
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: because we talked about it on last week's show. You

1075
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: asked me who I thought the most overrated team was

1076
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: so far, and I was like, well, Mississippi State. They

1077
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: dropped fifty against Eastern Kentucky, but they're not good. And

1078
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: then at one point they were down thirty to three

1079
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: at Arizona State. I feel the same way about Purdue.

1080
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: Give me the fighting.

1081
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Irish Riley Leonard has not thrown a single touchdown through

1082
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: two games, and he's rushed for one.

1083
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: He's about to get the JJ McCartney or McCarthy treatment

1084
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: from you.

1085
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: Is he this man does not throw touchdowns?

1086
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's thrown two picks.

1087
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I and I think he's hurt too.

1088
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: Listen, they might need to roll somebody else out there.

1089
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. He has not been good, like,

1090
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's because he's hurt something else. Notre Dame on

1091
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: the road. I'm god, I'm hoping against hope against the

1092
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: against a.

1093
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: George.

1094
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: You're forgetting Thomas Hammock talked to Marcus Freeman this week,

1095
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: so it's all gonna be fine.

1096
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, everything's better than now, all right.

1097
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: So okay, may that made me feel better? Not really,

1098
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: but Notre Dame min is not in half?

1099
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: Okay at all?

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01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: Okay ooh, I got one for you here. This is

1101
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: a tricky one because this team is ranked number five

1102
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: in the nation in Ole Miss, and they have won

1103
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: a combined one hundred and twenty eight to three over

1104
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: their first two weeks against FCS Firman and then Middle

1105
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee State. And they're playing wake Forest, who lost to

1106
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: Virginia last week thirty one to thirty. North Carolina A

1107
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: and T they beat forty five to thirteen, and now

1108
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: Old Miss heads to Winston Salem to a legacy Federal

1109
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: Credit Union Stadium as twenty two and a half point favorites.

1110
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm taking the home team, give me the Demon Deacons

1111
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: plus twenty two and a half.

1112
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: I am with you on this. I'm a Hank Bachmeyer fan.

1113
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: He played out there in SoCal where you could see him.

1114
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: He was a force it hankst Wake Forest, Yeah, man,

1115
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: he's where do you where do you go first. Well

1116
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't Boise Okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

1117
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: that's where it was.

1118
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: Oh he was a boy d.

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 2: He's he's one of those ones that's been in college

1120
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: football since the before. They're pandemic. Y, it's in a while.

1121
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 3: He was.

1122
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 2: Zach Hill like, think about it this way. Zach Hill

1123
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: coached Hank Blachmeyer at Poise State. Zach Hill has since

1124
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: worked at Arizona State. Coached a high school championship, and

1125
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: that works for the Seattle Seahawks. Hank Blachmeyer still doing it.

1126
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: If you're into like numerology and stuff, hide your eyes.

1127
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: But Hank Blackmeyers six hundred and sixty six passing yards

1128
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: this year, four touchdowns. He has been sacked a bunch,

1129
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: but he's a gamer. I don't think he's gonna be

1130
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: somebody who's surprised by anything he sees on the defensive side.

1131
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: I do think that they will score that. I might

1132
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: go to that game. I might go that's not that

1133
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 3: far of a drive from here.

1134
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. These SEC teams out outside of Texas

1135
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: and Georgia, when they've played anybody with a pulse, all

1136
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, him sixty point wis just just just

1137
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: fly out the window. Is gonna happen to be in

1138
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: this game.

1139
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: And even you look at like a forty five twenty

1140
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: four or something like that, that does not cover. So

1141
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: let's go Demon Deacons, all right, six hundred and sixty

1142
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 2: six yards passing.

1143
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: Hmm weird?

1144
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: All right? Uh? Georgia, Kentucky, Georgia his favorite Georgia minus

1145
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: twenty four. The game is at Kroger Field in Lexington, Kentucky.

1146
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: Moment of silence for Brock Vandergriff. Do we think he

1147
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: has any shot whatsoever to show his old team that

1148
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: they should have done more to keep him.

1149
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: No, because they got Carson Carson beck and Carson beckon

1150
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: looks really good. So no, they're they're not missing him,

1151
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: not even a little bit.

1152
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: I ool, I feel I feel bad.

1153
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: I do.

1154
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 3: I feel bad for Kentucky.

1155
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 2: They they were in a situation where I think they

1156
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 2: thought they were gonna lose their head coach, and I

1157
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: think that they had made peace with it, or at

1158
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: least a lot of Kentucky fans had made peace with it,

1159
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: and that did not happen, and Stoop's returns and then

1160
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: they just get absolutely worked at South Carolina last week,

1161
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: who does not have an offense.

1162
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: They really don't.

1163
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: And if South Carolina could cover that twenty four without

1164
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: an offense, imagine what Georgia is gonna do.

1165
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact.

1166
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 3: And this game is.

1167
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: Gonna be on ABC, like people without cable could watch

1168
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: what's about to happen. It's it's all. I think it's

1169
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: gonna be real bad in favor of Georgia.

1170
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, this one the Memphis Tigers at Florida State.

1171
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: Florida State's favored by six and a half. Ryan Silverfield,

1172
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: Memphis's head coach, his mentor, uh Norvel, Mike Norvel over

1173
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: at Florida State. So this is the point where you're

1174
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: where you're where your idols become your rivals, and then

1175
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: you got an aim for survival. So if you're Ryan

1176
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: Silverfield and you go down to dope Campbell Stadium in

1177
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: Tallahassee and you got him on the ropes, right, because

1178
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: remember Memphis is fighting for a college football playoff spot.

1179
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: If you get him on the ropes and you get

1180
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: a chance to win by thirty or you can win

1181
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: by like fifteen, which one are you doing? He gotta

1182
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: take this thirty piece fam like, he gotta under understand

1183
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: he would do it to me and Ryan Silverfield as

1184
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: much because I've talked to the dude as much as

1185
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: he loves being in Memphis. I think he wants to

1186
01:12:54,120 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: make Memphis something very special. If shit, if you know,

1187
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: if you think that, you think that a memory comes calling, No,

1188
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm asking Homo comes calling or Florida comes calling. That's

1189
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 1: hard to turn down. And this guy get them jobs.

1190
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: If Memphis wins by thirty, the coaches just board the

1191
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: opposite bucks.

1192
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 1: Everybody's and because the Norbelle still has some Memphis swag

1193
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: in his closet, so he can just.

1194
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's his essentially his system.

1195
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: He go back houses he won.

1196
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,839
Speaker 2: He won like a couple of ten ten win seasons

1197
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: back to back out there, right yep.

1198
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, they just switch house, switch paychecks like like

1199
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: a trade in places.

1200
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, except that they don't even have to do

1201
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: like the freaky Friday lightning strike. They just board the

1202
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: they switch jack. They do a jersey swap like like

1203
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: Grady Dick did they do a jersey swap.

1204
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: Black Oh and s FW college that that was about

1205
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: Grady Dick and the other player in the NBA when

1206
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: they swap jerseys. They did that on purpose, but that's

1207
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: a whole another thing.

1208
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

1209
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: At a Grady Dick jersey swap right at midfield post

1210
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: game and then they just board the opposite bus. Florida

1211
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: State fans will they'll be like, all right, we'll see

1212
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,799
Speaker 2: how we look the rest of the season.

1213
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 3: Memphis will certainly be happy. What do you think?

1214
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: All right? But what point six and a half.

1215
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 3: Points give me Florida State?

1216
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: Florida State gotta win this game, bro, and they gotta

1217
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: win it by a touchdown. They have to. I'm taking

1218
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: or to state this is why I wouldn't bet on

1219
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: this game, because I this feels nasty, bro, no no

1220
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: new new new.

1221
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think if they come out

1222
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: in the first quarter and can't and I don't even

1223
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: feel like this is a fair question because I don't

1224
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: feel like.

1225
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: They've used DJU like that.

1226
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: But if they come out and the and the passing

1227
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: game just isn't there early on, do you think that

1228
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: there's the chance they might?

1229
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, regardless whether it's his fault or not.

1230
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: The quarterback gets more blamed than he that he should

1231
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: and more credit than he should. So yeah, so that's

1232
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: that's what it is, man, that's what it is. It stinks,

1233
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: but you know, this is the world that we live

1234
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: in, in the world of college football. All right. The last

1235
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: game up, and this one is obviously near and dear

1236
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: to my heart. The Oregon Ducks minus sixteen and a

1237
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: half at Oregon State. Give me the Ducks for the

1238
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: same reason why Ralph did last week with Iowa State.

1239
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: Ducks gotta get it together. It's not even like they're losing,

1240
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: but they gotta play better. They gotta get it together.

1241
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: Give me the Ducks fail.

1242
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you specifically told me that my logic

1243
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: for picking Iowa State was ridiculous. But I appreciate you

1244
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: seeing you over on my side of the fence on

1245
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: this one. I looked real deep into this game and

1246
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: I want to be on your side here. But Geovanni

1247
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 2: McCoy is he's real.

1248
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've known the kid since he was at since

1249
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: before he left out of high school because him and

1250
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: Damon used to work out together with with Sam Fisher

1251
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: over at throw to win. Yeah, he's not Moxie. He's

1252
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: got the right attitude to be able to win a

1253
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: game like this, not not not only play well, but

1254
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: win a game like this. And Oregon's defense has been

1255
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: pretty good this year. Their offense has been inconsistent. They've

1256
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: had they've had big plays, and they got to get

1257
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: some consistency out of the offensive line. You're gonna see

1258
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: more combinations this week. I feel good, Ralph, I actually

1259
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: feel feel good. I don't know whether it's Homerism in

1260
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: here or whether it's just hope.

1261
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Oregon Oregon State was good last year. Oregon

1262
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 2: beat them, what thirty one seven? Yeah, so that I

1263
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: mean you could see a repeat of that. I just

1264
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: the more I looked into Giovanni McCoy, the more it's like, Oh,

1265
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't when he gets sacked, it doesn't do any

1266
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: thing to his momentum, to his mindset, nothing. He's pretty

1267
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: good at avoiding the past rush. I don't think you

1268
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: can do that against Oregon. I think he's gonna get

1269
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: got four or five times at least, but it doesn't

1270
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: take him out of his rhythm. And because of that,

1271
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: I think they might be able to keep this one close.

1272
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: Hiring Trent Bray means that they didn't lose a lot

1273
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: of their defensive playmakers, and they have the ability to

1274
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: run the ball and still and so I don't know.

1275
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: I like.

1276
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: I like Oregon State not to win, but to keep it,

1277
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: keep it close. I think it could look like that

1278
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: Idaho score.

1279
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: Ooh nice, I'll take it. And so that's all five

1280
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: games for this week and the end of Unafraid to

1281
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: College Football apostles you guys. Make sure that you guys

1282
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: tune in, tell a friend about the show peace Out,

1283
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: and we will catch you guys next week.