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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale, Allie. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt Our view here in the studios

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Speaker 1: in the Bridgefield at iHeartRadio Studios. Not quite as good

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Speaker 1: as what we've had over the last few weeks of

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Speaker 1: being able to watch Steelers practice, but it's a welcome change.

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Speaker 2: As I say, it's a little switch. It feels like

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Speaker 2: the regular season, to be honest with that's what it

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Speaker 2: does feel like. Yeah, I can't here. It's going to

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Speaker 2: start to be a little more regimented. The drives will

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Speaker 2: be two hours, you know, and you and I sitting

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Speaker 2: here talking into a mic instead of watching practice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I came straight over actually from Steelers practice today

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Speaker 1: over on the south side of the upmc rooney Sports Complex.

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Speaker 1: But in between our last show in this one Steelers, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Stee always played a little preseason game and all the

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Speaker 1: people out there said yeah. But after the Tampa Bay game,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, And there was a lot of them, and

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Speaker 1: I was one of them. Yeah, you could say yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was a Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: Bucks weren't playing a bunch of starters. Well that's out

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Speaker 1: the win then now, because the Bills were playing their starters,

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers were out there and dominated them when

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Speaker 1: it was ones.

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Speaker 2: On once dominated them. I mean I was one of them.

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Speaker 2: I thought, Wow, they just blew the Bucks doors off.

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Speaker 2: But that's about as bad as preseason opponent as you're

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Speaker 2: going to see. So let's yeah, I always have to

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Speaker 2: pay attention to the opponent, and this opponent is really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Bills and Bucks had way too

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Speaker 2: many penalties and things like that, but some of that's

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Speaker 2: because the Steelers are forcing holding calls and jumping too

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Speaker 2: fast and things like that. It was really not competitive

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Speaker 2: for the whole first half. I mean, and this ones

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Speaker 2: weren't in the whole time for the Steelers at times.

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Speaker 2: That stragedy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was a really good showing by

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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball for the Steelers and special

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Speaker 1: teams for that matter, Special.

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Speaker 2: Teams was doesn't even start there. I mean, Harvin was phenomenal,

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Speaker 2: Boz was perfect.

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Speaker 1: The coverage units were outstanding, were great, and they got

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Speaker 1: a big return. Yeah. Other than that, you know how

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Speaker 1: it play.

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Speaker 2: And Killer Brew blocked the punt, got a hand on

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Speaker 2: a punt. Yeah, I mean, that's like a perfect game

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Speaker 2: for special teams.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's blocking a punt without actually game planning

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of times Danny Smith will see

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Speaker 1: something here, well we can take advantage of this. That No,

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Speaker 1: that's just winning in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Glad we talked about special teams because it was really

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Speaker 2: really good. It's been they're starting to find their core guys.

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Speaker 2: I think Harvin's come into his own and I know

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Speaker 2: your ten thoughts had interesting stats about Harvin, like if

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Speaker 2: you just look at the average, it looks bad. That's

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Speaker 2: not what he was acting.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that. Yeah, you can't do that at all.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think one of the traps that people

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Speaker 1: fall into because Buffalo's punter. If you look at it,

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Speaker 1: it just he averaged forty seven yards of kick. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's really good, and Harvin only averaged thirty eight point two.

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Speaker 1: Who had the better day? It wasn't even close, not

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Speaker 1: even close. If you look at Martin's net, it was

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Speaker 1: thirty one point four. He had one kick. They both

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Speaker 1: had five kicks. He had one kick inside to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Harvin had all five of his kicks inside of twenty,

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Speaker 1: and he had a long of fifty two yards. That

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Speaker 2: Which this goes hand in hand. I mean it's kind

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Speaker 2: of you know, chicken or the egg type of thing too.

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Speaker 2: His you know, the Buffalo punter is able to boom

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Speaker 2: him because they started with awful field position because of

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Good punting and good defense, so field position

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Speaker 2: and special teams always go hand in hand. But they

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Speaker 2: really accenuated it.

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Speaker 1: They complimented themselves really well in this game. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if there was a punting competition here, and I really

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Speaker 2: And he was really impressive in camp too. You know,

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Speaker 2: we didn't talk about it enough, but during those special

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Speaker 2: teams periods would kind of drift off once in a while,

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Speaker 2: but he booms it and the thing hangs up there forever.

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Speaker 2: He's a chance to be really good, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And moving on to the offense. As impressed as

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Speaker 1: I was with the throw that Kenny Pickett made to

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Speaker 1: George Pickens against Tampa Bay, the one that he threw

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Speaker 1: because he basically threw Friarmouth open.

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Speaker 2: Stole the words out of my mouth. Started with row

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Speaker 2: always receivers open. He has a better feel for each

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Speaker 2: he puts it in spots where only they can get

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Speaker 2: it and or can create after the catch. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know and knows. You know, that's a an easy catch.

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Speaker 2: Not every tity lend can make that catch, you know,

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Speaker 2: and Friarmouth can could tour back and do that, you know.

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Speaker 1: And he was asked about that after the game. He said, look,

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Speaker 1: they were in cover two. I recognized that immediately. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna look at Deontay Johnson. Well, the safety drifted

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Speaker 1: that way. That gave me pat down the middle and boom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was any threw it where only Farmuth could catch it.

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Speaker 1: And as Firemouth told me after the game, he's like,

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Speaker 1: I appreciated that because he threw it away from the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that all adds up. I didn't hear either of

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Speaker 2: those quotes, but that's exactly what happened. And there are

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Speaker 2: no perfect coverages. And as you gain experience in this league,

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Speaker 2: and he's a really smart guy, you realize, Okay, if

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Speaker 2: they're going to give me the cover two and drift

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, And of course that's what he did.

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Speaker 2: And I my hunch, I mean, just off the top

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Speaker 2: of my head, he probably influenced that safety a little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look that way and then you go back

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Speaker 1: to the middle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So you know, when you're attacking the entire

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Speaker 2: field like that, I mean, especially all the up the

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Speaker 2: middle stuff we've been talking about too many, be a

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Speaker 2: hard offense to deal with it like that.

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Speaker 1: That throw actually reminded me of Ben Roethlisberger talking about

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Speaker 1: Pat Friarmouth his rookie year. If you remember that year

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Speaker 1: and Roethlisberger would throw a lot of balls to to

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Speaker 1: see if he could make that catch. Yeah, can you

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Speaker 1: the air on the you know, on the run for

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, Like I'm gonna. He wasn't here

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Speaker 1: though when they were doing that stuff, Like he didn't

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Speaker 1: And and so I I asked Pat about that. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know that he threw you open on that. He goes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's just him. You know, we spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: now he has a much better understanding of what we

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Speaker 1: things happen. I thought that the throw that he had

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Speaker 1: much too, you know. Yeah, but to throw he had

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Speaker 1: up a first down. I mean those are big time throws.

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Speaker 2: Big time throws and big I mean it's NFL quarterback throws,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean those are what the great ones

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Speaker 2: do that the I'm not saying he's great yet or

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Speaker 2: you don't have to have a howitzer, but I mean

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Speaker 2: these defenders are at your mercy whenever you can put

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Speaker 2: down low where only he can get it, or you

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Speaker 2: know a guy like Washington ten feet in the air. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So through two games, Canny Pickett has a one forty

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Speaker 1: nine point one passer rating. He's thrown for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirteen yards nine of eleven, two touchdowns, no interceptions.

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Speaker 1: That's an eighty one point eight completion percentage. More importantly,

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Speaker 1: ten point two seven yards per attempt. They're attacking down

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely all the things we were worried

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Speaker 2: you know, and these are things that needed worked on,

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Speaker 2: and they've worked on them all like crazy in camp.

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Speaker 2: The quarterbacks come a very long way, and the coaching

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Speaker 2: staff's done a really good job of playing too his strengths,

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Speaker 2: giving people around him and bringing them along as well.

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Speaker 2: So I'm cautiously extremely optimistic, cautiously extremely optimistic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the run. Now the run game

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Speaker 1: when when Matt Canada draws up the run that went

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Speaker 1: you get the motion across the formation right the cornerback follows.

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Speaker 1: So to your point, you're blocking that cornerback without actually

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Speaker 1: He've just taken him out of the play. That was

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Speaker 1: gunneral Chefsy coming across the motion there is taking that

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Speaker 2: Instead asking a receiver to block a defensive player, let's

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Speaker 2: just pull him out of the run him.

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Speaker 1: Right out of this feat. The play goes the opposite way.

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Speaker 1: The blocking up front first of all chooks a corps

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Speaker 1: his guy. The one guy who was unblocked on that

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Speaker 1: those two guys laying on the ground and can't get

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Speaker 1: to this, get to that, and then you get the

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Speaker 1: seal by saemlu And and Daniels gets to the second

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Speaker 1: level banner gets his guy kicked out or not. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Dan Moore gets his guy kicked out, which creates the seam,

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Speaker 1: and then you get a great block by Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 1: down the field and it's on.

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Speaker 2: And it's on. And then the only thing I would

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Speaker 2: add is they have one of the best safety pairings

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Speaker 2: in the league and Hide employers. And both were playing,

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Speaker 2: and both were playing in this game. And usually if

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Speaker 2: you allow a lot of long runs, you've bad safety play,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they'll come up and

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Speaker 2: make an eight yard or you know, stop it at

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Speaker 2: eight and as opposed to eighty or whatever. And they

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Speaker 2: I don't remember if it was Poyer or Hide, both

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Speaker 2: are great. Yeah, and it looked like he totally misjudged

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Speaker 2: Warren's speed and acceleration too. You're like, I'll get this

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Speaker 2: guy on the ground and then whoa, I put the

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Speaker 2: there was a lot I mean, there was nothing to

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Speaker 1: But if you were drawing that play up on a board,

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the Steelers impressive twenty seven to

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Speaker 1: right right? Uh god enough out. Yeah. Basically it was

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Speaker 1: let's see twelve fifteen plays for let's see thirty nine

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know what I mean, Like the

434
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: sacks and stuff were great, but I'm like, look at

435
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: this and like I thought that for sure, that's an

436
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: easy game. Then he comes back and chases Alan down.

437
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: He was running for his life back there. And I

438
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: when that player, they initially ruled it a sack, and

439
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm watching from the press box. I'm like,

440
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: I thought he went past the line, the line of

441
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: scrimmage on that this the line of scrimmage was the fourteen.

442
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: He went to the fifteen and then went behind the

443
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So it's a run and high Smith

444
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: ends up dropping him for a six yard loss. And

445
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, there was nobody open.

446
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Now.

447
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: I'm sure Alan was told, hey, you're not You're not

448
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: going to run, but we need you doing that. But

449
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: they got him on the ground in that situation.

450
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Which really is the same thing as a sack.

451
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: Of course.

452
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean I would give him credit for another sack,

453
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: but that's a tackle for loss, you know whatever. I mean,

454
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: still real quick on Alan, I thought he looked great,

455
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: you know, like he created on his own. He made throws.

456
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: There was not much help his right tackle. The tall

457
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: kid from northern Iowa. He's a problem. And they're trying

458
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 2: to rework their offensive line. How about this little nugget.

459
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 2: When Alan was on the field, he was pressured on

460
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: slightly over forty percent of his dropbacks. Yeah, I mean,

461
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: and that passes the sniff test completely. Yeah, and then

462
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: sometimes it was her Big. I mean it wasn't just

463
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: Watt and Camreck and Shop, it was everybody.

464
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Well that that to me was you know that find

465
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: that the final series. That's I think the second series.

466
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Actually they go fifty six yards, they get down to

467
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh thirty eight. Her Big beats their starting left

468
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: tackle around the end.

469
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: The right tackle.

470
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Deon Dawkins is considered one of the top left

471
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: tackles in the league.

472
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean he's tenth, Yeah, I mean he's good. Yeah,

473
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: he starts for almost any team out.

474
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: But Herbig still beat him around the corner. Got a

475
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: hand on Allen to affect the throw over the middle

476
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: scor was it was also intended for Diggs by the way,

477
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: which was going to be you know, it was could

478
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: have been a big gain. So he affects that one.

479
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: The next play, they get to the illegal block in

480
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: the back from the right tackle on the little screenplay,

481
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: and then following that, Marcus Golden draws a holding penalty

482
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: on the right tackle. Yeah, that would have been a

483
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: sack if he doesn't get tackled. Next thing, you.

484
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Know, it's.

485
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: Second and twenty nine. You know, and and the Bills go, okay,

486
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna wave the white flag. Yeah, a little run

487
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: play drag.

488
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: They dumped it off on the third one. Yeah, whatever,

489
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: right right? I mean dominant what you wanted from this defense?

490
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean the front line, controlling the tempo. But then

491
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: the depth and the youth. And you know, Benton didn't

492
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: even play. And you know what if Watt plays the

493
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: whole game. Of course, you know, of course you don't

494
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: say all these things, but man, as good as the offense,

495
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: really yeah.

496
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: It really was. And and again I don't need to

497
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: see make a Fitzpatrick or t J. Watt or Cam

498
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: Hayward out there the rest of the preseason. I've seen enough.

499
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: I want to talk more defense. But I thought coach

500
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: said we're gonna play who's available.

501
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: He says that, and then he said that if before

502
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: the Tampa game. He said before the Tampa Bay and

503
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: everybody freaked out, Oh, I can't believe he's gonna play

504
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: Wanton Hayward. What he says, yeah, what he says a

505
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: little vaguer than a week before game. He never wants

506
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: to paint himself into a corner. Well, you said you

507
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: were going to play what and then you didn't or

508
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: you said, these guys are gonna play this amount of

509
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: plays and then they didn't like because there's always the

510
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: gotcha people out there. Of course, Well this is what

511
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: you said, and this isn't what you did. He wants

512
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: he plays it by ear. He played there's a feel

513
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: to it, and in Tampa he looked at it and said, look,

514
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: it's it's one hundred and ten degrees out here. I

515
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: don't need to see these guys while we beating up

516
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: their body. Yeah, anymore. But you did have to get

517
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: them out there a little bit. They did that. They

518
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: got them out healthy exactly, which was which was a

519
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: huge thing.

520
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: The Crisp great substitution period. You know, get them out.

521
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: And I think feeling pretty good about themselves.

522
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do know he mentioned in the post

523
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: game he said something about we were also conscious. So

524
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: we have a short week, you know, play Thursday. I'm

525
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: sure Mian knows that, and I'm with you. You don't

526
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: need to throw make out there again or water or

527
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: any of those guys. I would not, but I would

528
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: understand it if they did a series, because they got

529
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: seventeen games to the opener or seventeen days to the opener.

530
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: It's a long stretch.

531
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: It is a long stretch. But again, I think a

532
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: part of that is the physical practices they have in

533
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: training camp. You're not going to have those again, but

534
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: you know veteran players and that defense especially is loaded

535
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: with them. That I mean people are talking about, well,

536
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: you know have depth, and you have depth. Yeah, you

537
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: want to and you want to get those guys, especially

538
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: the young guys, your young depth pieces, more experience so

539
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: that when you roll into Baltimore in December and maybe

540
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: they haven't played a ton of snaps. They've played some

541
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: but not a ton. Well, now you've got to go

542
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: out there and play forty snaps in this game because

543
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: somebody's nicked up. You know, you want to get them

544
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: as many snaps and to see that growth. How about

545
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: her big do I think I saw something. He's played,

546
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: He's played forty snaps in the preseason and he's gotten Like.

547
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: I have it right here. I'm actually writing this article

548
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: as we'll go ahead, and.

549
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to pat myself on the back for this,

550
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: but he's been my guy since I saw him with

551
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, early on in the process, more doubts than

552
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: you did to be honest with you.

553
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm on record on here saying he was my least

554
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: favorite draft pick and I adored their draft, but I

555
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: mean from where you got him, I was like, ah,

556
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean he's six. I mean even poured us of

557
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: his combine stuff. He was six two to forty and

558
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: kind of lean. I'm like, I don't know if he

559
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: can handle the physical pounding at the line of scrimmage.

560
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. I'm still looking for this number. It's

561
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: somewhere buried in It's ridiculous. So it Wisconsin. He had

562
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: twenty sacks over the past two years on four hundred

563
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: pass rush opportunities. That's a pretty good It's a good no,

564
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, that's a really good number. And it's

565
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: even better.

566
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

567
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: First off, he's also and you know we don't love pfs,

568
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: but he's a Steelers PFF number one defender slightly over

569
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: high Smith's shocking games, shocking right right right, And why

570
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: can't I find this? But I will keep looking.

571
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: It's like it's like forty snaps and he's got he's

572
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: like he's got a ussure rated like forty.

573
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane, it's insane.

574
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: I have it right here. He has played forty snaps

575
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: and his pressure rates. But the funny thing about it,

576
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Matt is the move that he used to get past

577
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: the right tackle when he came from the right side

578
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: was the same one we were describing it on the ring. Yeah,

579
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: if you were Amber, Yeah, I just called it. I

580
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: asked him after the game, I'm like, what do you

581
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: call that the TJ Watt? He because, yeah, that works.

582
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: We'll call it the TJ Watt because I don't see

583
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: anybody else do that move. It's elongated step with your

584
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: right foot to duck under the tackle and you grab

585
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: the arm as you go buy to pull yourself through.

586
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: And he was able to keep his feet as he

587
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: did that and then get to the quarterback. We saw

588
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: TJ Watt on Wednesday and we described it as he

589
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: was doing it after practice, showing all the outside linebackers

590
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: how to do that move.

591
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, just talking about that move, I often reference

592
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Thorne, who I think does the best line work

593
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: out there. One thing he always talks about in a

594
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: watt right up is he has an elite ghost move.

595
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a ghost move or not.

596
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: It kind of is because you you go you kind

597
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: of go there, don't give him anything for a second. Right,

598
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: So maybe that's a ghost move or maybe this TJ

599
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: made it up in his garage, you know what I mean,

600
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: because it works.

601
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he learned that one from JJ. I

602
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: don't think so, because j JJ is not doing that move,

603
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: not doing that where you just herbic Is you just disappear? Yeah,

604
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: herbic is. Yeah, I think that is what he calls.

605
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like he's going to do a triple jump.

606
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

607
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: It takes that long step on a trip like and

608
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: he just gets underneath the tackle and buy him.

609
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: And I bet every tackles like it's like hitting a knuckleball. Yeah,

610
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: I don't have to do it like twice a year

611
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: or whatever, and I don't really know how to defend.

612
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: You may only see that. He may only do it

613
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: against you twice in a game. And you're expecting, okay,

614
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: is you got a bull bull rush this time? Am

615
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I going to get a spin move? What's he going

616
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: to do here? And then all of a sudden he

617
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: does that and you're like huh, And he saves.

618
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Him for the right time, sets them up with bulls

619
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: and spins and rips and you know, speed and everything.

620
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: But the fact that herb is able to take that

621
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: and then take it and put it into playing a

622
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: game already from the right side, from the other side too,

623
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: from the other side that he's been rushing from. Yeah,

624
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: it is amazing to me. It is amazing to me.

625
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: So I forget where we were going with this, But

626
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about you know, who's gonna play Thursday,

627
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But opposite of this time last year,

628
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: Like if we were sitting there prepping for Steelers Bengals

629
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two opener, I'm sure we would have said

630
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: things like, well, I would imagine TJ and Cam will

631
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: play eighty five ninety percent of the snaps.

632
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you do now, you know, like because

633
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: no one, no one on the in the whole league

634
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: is truly regular season NFL shape yet you know, I mean,

635
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: it takes a little bit to string out every snap.

636
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 2: The offensive lineman doesn't have this advantage. But I think

637
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna see Gold and I think you're going to

638
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: see her big bent and leal like on purpose.

639
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Because they deserve it. Yeah, they deserve the playing time.

640
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: They they're confident in them.

641
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also thought it was interesting if you notice

642
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: the how they employed the inside linebackers.

643
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: That was who I want to talk about next. I

644
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: think that was the best performance from the inside linebackers

645
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: I've seen in two years.

646
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were active. They all three of

647
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: the top guys played, and they rotated them the first

648
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: three three or four series. Actually I think it was

649
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: the four series that you know, you started with with

650
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: Hulcombe and Landam Roberts next to each other. The next

651
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: series Kawant Alexander comes in for Holcombe. Then the next

652
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: series Roberts comes off and Holcomb is on. Then they rotate,

653
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: and then they started the rotation over again, and all

654
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: three of them can play. All three of them can

655
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: play and be and make impactful plays. I originally thought

656
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: Hulcombe that were gonna leave the field. Those other two

657
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: will switch situationally. But if you can make it a

658
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: three man rotation, you know where Roberts and Kwan are

659
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: out there together at times, and holk them gets a

660
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: little breather. It's not like he's light years better than

661
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: those guys. You know, you're not taking ray Lewis off

662
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: the field, but they all are getting it, and they

663
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: thought they all made plays collectively. I thought that group

664
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: was extremely good. And the two guys I wanted to

665
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: call out though onto the linebacker position were Robinson and Mues.

666
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of thought in Muse's special teams

667
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: only maybe doesn't even make the team. But both those

668
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: guys definitely played their best game as a Steeler. I mean,

669
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're guaranteed to make the team or

670
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: anything like that, because it's gonna be tough, but they

671
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: made a lot of plays deep into the game. And

672
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: Robinson we made that big hit, but he also didn't

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: screw up.

674
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: And yeah, he looks like he's starting to get it too,

675
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: So I'm a little more confident about that position.

676
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of the things we talked about

677
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: last Friday, where where you know, what we learned at

678
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: camp and I you know, that's been one of the

679
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: big questions. Is this inside linebacker group going to be

680
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: better than the one last year? By the way, did

681
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: you see Miles Jack retired? He's been held together with

682
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: yeah for a little while now, Yeah, I think yes,

683
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: at this point, there's nowhere to go about up In

684
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: some regard, it looks like Bush might be starting for

685
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: the Seahawks two or playing a lot, but I absolutely

686
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be two steps better.

687
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not just better than bad.

688
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be They're gonna Yeah, it's gonna They're gonna

689
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: be a competent and be make more impactful plays. I mean,

690
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: I truly, I truly believe that I should.

691
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: Know this, But I think Kwan is the dinmebacker. Yes, yeah,

692
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: when there's only one on the field, it looks like

693
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: it's going to do. We know that for certain now.

694
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it's been the first two games.

695
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's pretty much a done deal.

696
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: Which they play a lot of time. That's a substantial role.

697
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they also that's when Patrick Peterson bumps

698
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: inside and but.

699
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: That that shows a lot of trust you and you're

700
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: the only one out there.

701
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, both nickel corners who were got both guys who

702
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: are still fighting for another. I mean Chandon saw the

703
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: interception of Chandon Sullivan, like the one question you would

704
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: have about hand and Sullivan, well, Kenny blitz what's he

705
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: do when he blitzes? I mean he went up and Barkley,

706
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: Barkley saw us, saw him coming. He still got his

707
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: hand on the ball and intercepted, and he stuck his

708
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: face in there and made some plays. Eliza Riley gets

709
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: now it was off a tip pass by Cole Holcomb.

710
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: I know. But Riley had a good game.

711
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: But he had a good game, had a couple of

712
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: special teams tackles. You know, I think there's room for

713
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: both of these guys on the roster. And you know,

714
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: we were cutting the roster last week and we're you know,

715
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: which which of those guys you keep? Maybe keep both

716
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: of them.

717
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing, you know, because they

718
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: are both Again, one of the things I don't know

719
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: about with special teams is how good are you at them?

720
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: But in terms of snap count, I really pay attention

721
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: to that thing, to that stuff, because in this game, Riley,

722
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: both Robinson's Mark and Kenny Muse and then the guys

723
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: you would think, the Boykins Killer Brews played almost every

724
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: meaningful special team snap and by that I'm not talking

725
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: about field goal block and stuff like that. So Danny's

726
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: getting a really really good look at the Robinson's Muse Riley.

727
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: And by the way the special teams performed overall, I'm

728
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: assuming they get a check mark in the good side.

729
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, speaking which Miles Boykin

730
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: was outstanding again. He had the one, he had the

731
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: one that he kept out of the end zone. But

732
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: even before that, he's beating his guy down the field

733
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: on that. Like there were a couple of those those

734
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: punts or caught where he's standing behind the guys just waiting. Yeah,

735
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: like that's that's doing your job on that. He's almost

736
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: he's almost unblockable as a gunner.

737
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he's so big and physical. Yeah, yeah,

738
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: get he gets in that in that spot, he doesn't

739
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: have to be an instant accelerator like you know, a

740
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: slat route or something like that. He can get his

741
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: wheels churning and churning like he did at the combine.

742
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: And you're not going to get your hands on him

743
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: and hold them back. He's just going to run through it.

744
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: And now he's become a tackler and understands how to

745
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: chop and you know, do defensive stuff.

746
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's it's really interesting, you know. I that

747
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: defense is going to be a bunch of tough cuts

748
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: when they when they have to do that here coming

749
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: up in another week or so, real quick.

750
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: On special teams again, though, I mean we always talk

751
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: about Danny needs his five core guys. There's a chance

752
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: that's seven or eight. Yeah, Hayward, Killerbrew, Pierre, some of

753
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: the guys we just mentioned. Big Big is gonna be

754
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: one for sure. Yeah, and Boykin's gonna be one for sure.

755
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: That's five. And if you keep Muse or Riley, either

756
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: one of the Robinson's have a chance to I mean,

757
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: you might be a little bit better core than he's had.

758
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I paid close attention to who was

759
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: out there on the punt or punt coverage team. Riley

760
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: was out there, killer Brew's out there. I mean, those

761
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: are your guys that are gonna make this roster. Yeah,

762
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: And so.

763
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: We were a little worried when the season ended about

764
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: the core special teamers. You know, like they lost Snell

765
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: and what but their special teams weren't great last year.

766
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: They were fine, but.

767
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: They coverage units were good, but they were the return

768
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: was and.

769
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say changing it up might not be a

770
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: terrible idea.

771
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, your core guys, no, I'm with you. But you know,

772
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: the defense, if you look at it through two games,

773
00:37:53,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: has really done a nice job here. Of limiting you know, Okay,

774
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: the Bills scored fifteen points, but a lot of it

775
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: came in garbage time. We must mentioned anything about again

776
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: the takeaways, four of them in this game. Defensively, Joey

777
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: Porter Junior gets his first pick Riley off the tip

778
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: ball mentioned Sullivan. Herbert gets one on a forced fumble.

779
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Almost recovered that fumble as well. Mus gets on and

780
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: kind of pushed him out of the way. Otherwise, Herbert

781
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: gets the strip sack and then comes forward like five

782
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: yards and gets on the ball.

783
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: I think it's on the ball, right. I mean, his

784
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: hustle's phenomenal, unbelievable. Yeah, and he changes directions really well.

785
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: And you know it, said a middle writing an article

786
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: about him and some of his His ten yard split

787
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: was phenomenal at the combine and its changed direction stuff,

788
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: and that's how he plays.

789
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. But they mixed that with his motor and his technique.

790
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: He's a keeper man. Yeah. And again I liked what

791
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: I saw from Golden as well. So I mean, they're

792
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: deeper at outside linebacker than they've been in everal years.

793
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned both those slots too. Like, with

794
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: all respect to Malette, I'll take those guys over him

795
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: and Riley.

796
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it says again, it says a lot

797
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: about Baltimore that nothing against Malet. Yeah, I'll be interested

798
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: to see what their secondary looks like tonight.

799
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah they got Washington Huh. Yeah, I mean.

800
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Those are good receivers, and I would bet their top

801
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they're not going to throw a bum quarterback out there.

802
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: It's going to be I would assume they've named Howl

803
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: the starter. I would assume they want him playing at

804
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: least a half since he hasn't played very much, so

805
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see. He is Matt Williamson. I

806
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: am Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Drive here on

807
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Uh, we're just uh, that's probably do

808
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: it for us. Talking about the game against the Buffalo

809
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: Bills will change things up again. They could, they could.

810
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of good yeah for sure.

811
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with

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00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: more right after this.

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Speaker 3: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

814
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

815
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: And we are back. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale,

817
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Lolly and Matt. I wanted to talk here.

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Speaker 2: I gotta throw one thing out there. Okay, go ahead,

819
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: because I you know, I'm a nerd with my stats.

820
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: I kind of tease everyone with this. Her big thing,

821
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: his pass rush win rate. I had to go find

822
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: it is third best amongst any defensive player in the

823
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: preseason so far. So he's on pass rush snaps just

824
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: under twenty three percent of the time he's winning. I mean,

825
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 2: that's not a huge it's incredible, but that's a massive number.

826
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an incredible percentage. Uh. Looking here at ESPN, Matt,

827
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: they have their updated preseason power rankings after through two

828
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: games here, So I thought we'd take a look here

829
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: and see who's so, who's moving up, who's moving down?

830
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: In these things. We don't usually look at the uh

831
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Speaker 1: the these things on ESPN. We usually use the NFL

832
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: dot comins. So these are a little different than.

833
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Speaker 2: Going to do my own ear in about a week

834
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: when things get a little quiet before after the third

835
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Speaker 2: preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they still have Arizona at thirty two, and I

837
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's well earned. They're gonna be bad.

838
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: They're going to be bad. At thirty one, this is

839
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: holding steady. The Houston Texans.

840
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: Stroud looked a little better. Yeah, I mean Anderson made

841
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: some plays. Pierce looked okay, but there it's gonna be

842
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: a long hear.

843
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: Paulard looks good who they're running. But Pierce, I'm sure

844
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: Pierce very Yeah, he's shooting up my fantasy list. At

845
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: thirty are the Buccaneers who we talked about. They Yeah,

846
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: they don't play anybody though.

847
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like if we're talking about what I

848
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: mean like they'll look better with Evans and Godwin and

849
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: Veya and you know those guys.

850
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: That's great, but the offensive line still doesn't like they're

851
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna be counting on some of the guys they're playing here,

852
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: and they don't look good. No, guys like Mock and

853
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: those dudes are getting beat up overmatch.

854
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: By the way, their quarterback situations awful. Yeah.

855
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: At twenty nine of the Colts, and I was shocked

856
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: they didn't play Anthony Richardson in their preseason.

857
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: I was too, and then I dug more into it.

858
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: I thought I was shocked Fields too. I was like,

859
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: Fields versus Richardson, this would be my favorite game to

860
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: watch it's not Steeler. Well, they had group practices all

861
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: week and they beat each other up, and you're not

862
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: going to put either one of them out there without

863
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: the number one line. So I think this is kind

864
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: of side.

865
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Colts, I want Richardson to get

866
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: as much exposure as he can in game type situations.

867
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: I must say it's a right decision. But I think

868
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear.

869
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: I understand not playing fields like he's got two years

870
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: worth of starting experience.

871
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: Not a rookie y.

872
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

873
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Right, But I do think coaches have shown that these

874
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: group practices they valued more than preseason.

875
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Well that's all well and good, but they're canceling them

876
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: left and right because they're turning into turning in the fight.

877
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Fast battle royally.

878
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm playing Richardson. I don't care if that means that,

879
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, I got to put my first team line

880
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: out there. Great. They I go to those guys and say, look,

881
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: we're breaking in a guy who started what eleven twelve

882
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: college games, like he needs to play.

883
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't want to fall into the tree

884
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: Lance move or no, Jordan, you know, like we get

885
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: these guys and they don't get a chance to play

886
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: enough and even if it's a series, right dress to

887
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: put the pads on and get out there for two series.

888
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't understand it either.

889
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: At twenty eight, and this is actually down two spots,

890
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: they have Atlanta.

891
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I vehemently disagree, like to have Carolina over Atlanta

892
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: right now as bonkers Carolina is a mess. They don't

893
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: block anyone either.

894
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: At twenty seven, down two spots are the Rams. Well,

895
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: they don't play Stafford and Donald and they don't have

896
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: anyone else really good.

897
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, which they.

898
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: This may be more about moving other teams up ahead

899
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: of them than it is any of that.

900
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna pick a Lamb to win that division.

901
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: They would never be that low for me.

902
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: At twenty six, this is up two spots the Tennessee Titans.

903
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I don't know quite how to react

904
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: to these because are we predicting how good they are

905
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: overall or what they've shown us in the.

906
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Last they what they are right now? What do we

907
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: think of these teams now since whenever whenever the last

908
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: probably they did this before it's training camp starts.

909
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I don't know I'd move them up.

910
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: I think they would be pretty bad. I think so too. Yeah.

911
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: At twenty five, down a spot is Washington.

912
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: I am interested to watch them. Yeah, I think that

913
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: defense is pretty good. I don't think Howl's going to

914
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: be a disaster like their weapons, but they wouldn't be

915
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: much higher than this for me.

916
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: At twenty four, this is up from twenty seven, are

917
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. The bottom of this is really bad.

918
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: These are the really bad. Like there's a clear line

919
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: of delineation between the bad teams and the average teams

920
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: and then the really good team.

921
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean like I definitely would have had like the

922
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: Giants in this neighborhood one year ago and they made

923
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs. The boy, I have a hard time believing

924
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: any of these teams can make the playoffs. Except for Atlanta.

925
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm with her because at twenty three, down from nineteen,

926
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: this was their These are their post draft rankings coming

927
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: out of the draft.

928
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: This is where they are. Okay, so we definitely know

929
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: more about these teams now than that.

930
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Okay, the Raiders are at twenty three now, they were

931
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: nineteenth coming out of the Drafty they.

932
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: Could be less on this thing. They could be worse

933
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: than the Texans. Yeah, I mean Texans are thirty one.

934
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: They would be neck and neck for me as the

935
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: worst AFC team one Little Raiders. Note I watched some

936
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: of that game. Jimmy look good. I mean, at least

937
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: he's finally healthy. But this ad and O'Connell dude might be.

938
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: I might say he's the next Rock Party, but he's

939
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: haden really really impressive through two preseason games as a

940
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: late round guy. And some of these dudes like Party

941
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: and Pickett, they played a lot of college football. They're

942
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 2: adapting into the league pretty quick.

943
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

944
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Same with like Thompson, Robinson and those guys.

945
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: At twenty two holding Steady are the Carolina Panthers.

946
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: They'd be lower lower lower. Their line stinks. Their weapons

947
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: are bad too. Yeah, I mean they're counting on Mingo

948
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: and Thiland to be like they're leading receivers, and Young

949
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: looks totally overwhelmed.

950
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: Speaking, Chark's still starting for them.

951
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's overrated too, But watching that game

952
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: early Dexter Lawrence would be Bryce Young's worst nightmare because

953
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 2: he's just an a gap player and takes that center

954
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: and drives them into this little quarterback and just like

955
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: uses them as a tackling dummy. It was. It was

956
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: like the worst guy he could play against.

957
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: At twenty one up to spots the Denver Broncos, well,

958
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: I got doubts about them too. The offenses look better,

959
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: little a little. I did the I liked what I

960
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: saw from Juvante Williams in his return.

961
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think Wilson looks better though he doesn't

962
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't look like old Seahawks. Yeah, you know, but

963
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: it's early.

964
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean he's got them throw. They're throwing to the

965
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: backs and things of that nature, now, which I don't

966
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: They didn't do it though they didn't help them at all.

967
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: Williams is interesting. I don't think they're a contender, though

968
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. They could even make the

969
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: playoffs at twenty holding steady. The Green Bay Packers.

970
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: Look good.

971
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: Loves company, Yeah, yeah, I might pick them to win

972
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: that division. And Romeo Dobbs is a great Is that

973
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: a great preseason? Everybody's been Christian watching Christian watching Christian?

974
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: What seems like love likes Dobbs and Reid has well, Yeah,

975
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: they did Mission State at nineteen up two spots the Saints,

976
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: that's about right.

977
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: They're like a league average team to me.

978
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think some of this is adjustments.

979
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: They had some of these teams too high or too

980
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: low coming out of the draft.

981
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I meant that they're always good on defense. They'll

982
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: probably run the ball pretty well. You know, they're good.

983
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: They're okay at eighteen holding steady. The Cleveland Browns, Wow,

984
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: everyone has them much higher than this, which is a mistake,

985
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: which I think is a mistake. Watson hasn't looked great.

986
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that either. Yeah, the reports, the reports

987
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: out of Cleveland from some of the reporters there have

988
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: not been glowing about Deshaun Watson and his practices. And

989
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: I guess he got into a Twitter view. They had

990
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: a joint practice with the Eagles. That's where I was

991
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: going with this. I know he hasn't played in games,

992
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: and some Eagles reporter put out watson struggle today and

993
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: he gets into like a Twitter battle with him, like, yeah, dude,

994
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: about other things you should you shouldn't even be on

995
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: social media right right, Like that's just a bad look.

996
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: At seventeen, that's.

997
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: Where they belong. Yeah, they're in the middle of.

998
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: The road, seventeen down A spot is new England. I

999
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: would have New England below the Brown probably, Yeah, but

1000
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: our offense looks like an offense now though. Yeah, the

1001
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: defense has been the problem. Yeah, it's not been what

1002
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: they what you would expect from a New England defense.

1003
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: I would think they get that right, and I'm sure

1004
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: the offense won't be great. But mac Jones was confident

1005
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: and looking good the other day.

1006
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: At sixteen up a spot are the Giants up a spot? Well,

1007
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: who cares they're up or down? I mean it's basically

1008
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: still sixteenth. Yeah, yeah, they're about there. At fifteenth down

1009
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: a spot are the Vikings.

1010
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: I guess they would probably be my highest ranked team

1011
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: so far. I don't know. I don't know if they're

1012
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: much different than Green Bay. I might have Cleveland over them.

1013
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: They've got some things offense, like Jefferson, Jefferson and Hawkinson

1014
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: are Yeah, like okay, I think I'll take that as

1015
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: a one two. Yeah, I'll take that as a one

1016
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: two punch. We'll see what the defense can do. I

1017
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: do trust Brian Floris to scheme it up.

1018
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: As the Horses.

1019
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, at fourteen up one spot from fifteen are the Steelers.

1020
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: They'd be higher. I mean, I'm sure there'll be a

1021
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: couple of names. You'll mention that I think the Pittsford

1022
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: Sheelers should be higher then, like I think they're better

1023
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: in the Lions stuff toop my head.

1024
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: I think they're better than the Jaguars right now.

1025
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: Could be.

1026
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: If the Steelers are in the AFC South, I think,

1027
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: I take it, think they'd be the favorite.

1028
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, Or NFC North, NFC South, NFC. They're

1029
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: a playoff team easily, and I tend to think they

1030
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: might be anyway.

1031
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: You know, yeah at thirteen down from twelve.

1032
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: Or the Jets, Fine, they add a Dalvin Cook and

1033
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: you know their defense are pretty tenacious.

1034
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: About their situation. So you added Dalvin Cook. Carter's going

1035
00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: to make that team.

1036
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: I assume is he'll make the team.

1037
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so if he makes it, and then you

1038
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: you throw breesssee Hall into the equation, that's that's four

1039
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: running backs.

1040
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: I don't think any of them play special teams.

1041
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: The kid that they had last year that was you're

1042
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: talking Bam Bam Knight. Is he around still? I assume

1043
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: he's on the roster. You know, if you're looking for

1044
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: a third running back, yeah, I mean one of those

1045
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: guys probably won't pass waivers. Yeah, I mean, if somebody's

1046
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna gecclaim.

1047
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: There, yeah, there lines my problem with them.

1048
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. At twelve down a spot is Seattle.

1049
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: That seems a little rich.

1050
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: I I I'll put the Steelers against on a neutral field.

1051
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: I know they'll play later in the season, but that's

1052
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: going to be out in Seattle. I think on a

1053
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: neutral field the Steelers win seven at right now, Yeah,

1054
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: seven out of ten against them.

1055
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Browns are probably better than them.

1056
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: I think the somebody we just mentioned the probably should

1057
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: be about them. They I mean, they're good, they'll probably

1058
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: be a playoff team, but I don't think they're all

1059
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: that great.

1060
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: At eleven down, one spot is Jacksonville, they're struggling a

1061
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: little bit.

1062
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1063
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: At ten up three spots is Detroit.

1064
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it. I don't think the defense has

1065
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: a lot of issues and pass catchers not named. I'm

1066
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 2: on Ross Saint Brown. Worry mean we're troubling. Yeah.

1067
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: At nine holding steady of the Chargers.

1068
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. That's a good team. It's a

1069
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: good roster.

1070
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: At eight, holding steady of the Ravens, and you know

1071
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: my problem.

1072
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: With that, I have problems with that. Too excited to

1073
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: watch them tonight, they would be like fifteen sixteen to me, especially.

1074
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: With now that you know that Marlon Humphrey's not going

1075
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: to be out there for the first part of the season.

1076
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Them signing Jadavian Clowney over the weekend shows you at all.

1077
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: It doesn't move the needle, but it shows you. They're

1078
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: not happy like everybody's. Well, they're really happy with their outs,

1079
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: with their edge rushers, are they right? Because they don't

1080
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: sign They could have signed the corner they need cornerback

1081
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Speaker 1: help and instead they go out and get an edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: Well they signed Darby too, Yeah, because of desperation. Yeah right, No,

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Speaker 2: I think they I'm really warm enough to what you

1084
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: said about fourth in the division and no one sees

1085
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: them that way.

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Speaker 1: Nobody.

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Speaker 2: I see them like six in power rats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. I don't quite get it. Hey, I

1089
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: think Lamar is dynamite, but he's gonna have to be Superman.

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Speaker 1: Seven of the Cowboys holding steady, six of the Dolphins

1091
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Speaker 1: holding steady.

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Speaker 2: That's too rich for me. Yeah, I mean they have

1093
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: o line issues, depth issues, and a big injury on

1094
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: defense already.

1095
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Speaker 1: Uh, Buffalo is down a spot to five the how

1096
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Speaker 1: much would you would you put that game in their

1097
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 1: negative column for them? I factor it in because again

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're gonna have an issue at right tackle

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Speaker 1: that problem. It's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest. I mean, going into that game,

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Speaker 2: I did some pre I forget which outlet I was

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Speaker 2: using it, but I did some little preview, like I

1103
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Speaker 2: think the Bill's the third best team in the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought they were behind only the Eagles

1105
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Speaker 2: and Chiefs, and they didn't look at at all.

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Speaker 1: Four upper spot of San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I guess perty's a little more set in stone than

1108
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Speaker 2: when the draft ended.

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Speaker 1: Good at three down up spot from two is Cincinnati.

1110
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Speaker 2: We don't know anything different about them. I still think

1111
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: it's a mistake not to place some of those offensive players.

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Speaker 2: They've all rested again at two are better than the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Two up a spot is Philadelphia and then one is

1114
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Speaker 1: Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who really stinks Marcus Mariota. Yeah, he's awful.

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Speaker 2: He's horrendous. Like he may not be the backup. Now

1117
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Speaker 2: you got five million guaranteed he make it cut. They

1118
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Speaker 2: might just eat the money and give it to the

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Speaker 2: Tanner McKee been okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean they should have seen that last

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Speaker 1: year when Mariota played for Atlanta and kept overthrowing six

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Speaker 1: foot seven biggest receive. So anyways, that is the updated

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Speaker 1: ESPN Power rankings, the Steelers moving up a spot. I

1124
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Speaker 1: think they probably should be a little bit higher than that.

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Speaker 1: Some teams we disagreed with on there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good exercise zone.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. We'll be back with our two

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Speaker 1: on the drive right after this