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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Claude Harmitt. Ryan Krysler is the guest this week, another

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Speaker 1: I think uneven liize is one of the most difficult

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Speaker 1: we're always trying to figure out with players how they

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Speaker 1: can get better. And there are so many ways from

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Speaker 1: practice to all of the knowledge you have. But one

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Speaker 1: of the ways I think you can get better if

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Speaker 1: if you do it right, is by watching professional golf,

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Speaker 1: watching what tour players do. And I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people watch professional golf and they don't really kind

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Speaker 1: of pick up on the things they should be focusing on.

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Speaker 1: They focus on, Oh, yeah, how far everybody hits the golf? Well,

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Speaker 1: how far the driver goes? You know, you watch Roy

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Speaker 1: McRoy hit a driver. They've got the launch monitor data,

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Speaker 1: they've got how far it goes.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody marvels when he hits one

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Speaker 1: three forty, when he hits a nine iron from one

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Speaker 1: seventy five, but or almost everybody listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: those are not realistic numbers. And I do think I've

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Speaker 1: said it before Ryan, I think golfers are very much

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Speaker 1: influenced by television from a distant standpoint in that they

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Speaker 1: watch so much golf on TV, they hear constantly what

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Speaker 1: the best players in the world on all the tours

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Speaker 1: have hitting an eight iron and then that's in your

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Speaker 1: head when you go play golf, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like an eight iron from one seventy five is

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Speaker 3: a crazy, crazy dage for most.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say for the majority of people listening

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Speaker 1: to this podcast, they're eight iron probably goes one forty five,

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Speaker 1: pushing one fifty if you can get your ador and

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Speaker 1: up to one sixty. So don't focus on how four

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Speaker 1: the guys are hitting it, right, I think that's that's

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Speaker 1: a big trap. And if you're watching the LPGA as well,

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Speaker 1: again look at the numbers that they're hitting it and

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Speaker 1: and be honest with yourself. My dad always says one

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Speaker 1: of the things you have to do to get better

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Speaker 1: at golf, so you have to check your ego at

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Speaker 1: the door, right, And I think we all think and

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Speaker 1: want to hit the golf ball further.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And you don't necessarily need to hit it

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Speaker 2: That is the one thing.

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Speaker 1: And then also remember when you're watching professional golf on television,

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Speaker 1: they've got these they've got.

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Speaker 2: The golf course stretched as far.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're watching the guys, if you're watching

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Speaker 1: International Series. They've got these golf courses stretched as far

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Speaker 1: back as we can. We were at a tournament last week,

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Speaker 1: a live event, and there were two It was a

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Speaker 1: par seventy. They took out two par fives and made

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Speaker 1: When you're looking at distances on TV, try and work

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Speaker 1: that back to where you're going to play your holes

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Speaker 1: from at your home course.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think your home course is your us O course.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that in a previous podcast. And the

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Speaker 3: the chaos, especially like at the British Open. Chipping this

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Speaker 1: And East Lake for the Tour Championship Atlanta. It's hot,

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Speaker 1: the things that I like to do, and I always

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Speaker 1: So just as an example one of the things that

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Speaker 1: look at what the best players in the world do.

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Speaker 1: But this is a really eye opener. I think if

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Speaker 1: and what clubs and what the players say. So let's

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Speaker 1: go to Tommy Fleetwood who won the FedEx Cup last week,

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Speaker 1: sixty four in the first round, right, so seven birdie's

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Speaker 1: one bogie, so sixty four, but eleven fairways, fourteen greens,

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Speaker 1: so obviously hitting it really really well. But what I

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Speaker 1: where so he starts off by making three birdies in

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Speaker 1: a row birdies one, two, and three. First fall hits

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Speaker 2: Okay, fourth hole fifty eight feet, mix par.

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Speaker 1: makes par. Sixth hole, par five, up the hill, gets

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Speaker 1: So how does he shoot sixty four? Yeah, he hit.

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Speaker 1: All right, But if you look at that twenty one

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Speaker 1: one of the ways you can shoot sixty four is

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Speaker 1: to hit the golf ball.

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Speaker 2: To twenty feet a lot, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now that sounds crazy, because go to your home course,

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Speaker 1: at where that is. That's not as close as people think.

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Speaker 3: You were talking seven to ten paces away from the hole.

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Speaker 1: So one of the ways you shoot sixty four is

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Speaker 1: that's where you give yourself a lot of really really

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Speaker 1: good looks. My point behind all of those numbers is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he hit one to four feet on a par three,

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Speaker 1: but he also birdied two of the four par threes

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Speaker 1: he picked up shots on the par five.

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Speaker 3: Things we you know, practice and preach about taking care

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so birding two of the four par threes. We

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Speaker 1: know that we talked to our junior golfers a lot

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Speaker 1: to one over for the day, right, don't blow up

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Speaker 1: on the par three.

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Speaker 2: So that's another thing.

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Speaker 1: When you go back in and you're watching golf on TV,

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Speaker 1: they show the score card, do a quick glance and

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Speaker 1: look at how they did on the par fives, and

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Speaker 1: look at how they did on the par threes.

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Speaker 2: You can't shoot sixty four if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Take care of the par fives and you're over par

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Just doesn't happen. And you don't have to perhaps seven birdies.

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Speaker 3: We're not your home course, right, you might be able

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Speaker 3: to translate out into two or three birdies, and for

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Speaker 3: like a ten handicapper that's potentially swinging from bogie, that's

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Speaker 3: you're not trying to play a strip show every shot,

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Speaker 3: which is definitely not what this first round is showing

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Speaker 3: us it was not a Tommy Fleetwood stripe show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a lot of quality golf. Liss.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is when you go back and you

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Speaker 1: look at your home course, right, instead of thinking about

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Speaker 1: it's maybe a little mind shift in on the PGA

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Speaker 1: The commentators are going to be saying, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they're three four they make the tw earn five under,

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Speaker 1: what are they gonna say on TV? And he's got

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Speaker 1: two par fives to come where he's definitely going to

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Speaker 2: So rather than do what the tour.

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Speaker 1: Players do and think of, Okay, I've got to take

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose strokes on any of the

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Speaker 1: So PGA Tour players professional golfers, they're all trying to

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Speaker 1: birdie every par five they play. Flip it, your birdie

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Speaker 1: park And.

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Speaker 3: You're probably gonna have four at your course, not gonna

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Speaker 3: have two at your home course. And that's gonna be

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Speaker 3: four auto pars basically because you have a chance to

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Speaker 3: get in the ferry, you have a chance to get

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Speaker 3: back in the ferry on the layup, and then hopefully

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Speaker 3: you have a short iron end and mathematically that should

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Speaker 3: be four relatively easy holes for you that you can

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Speaker 3: auto par and move on. Right, So that's you know,

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Speaker 3: four holes in the course. We got three or four

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Speaker 3: done and you get the long par fourst to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think when you look at the course

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of tools that we use as coaches

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you that was not an easy shot. That's

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Speaker 3: note hit it to ten feet and didn't get it

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Speaker 3: up and down. But he still had room to play

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Speaker 3: with on that last hole to win by a couple

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Speaker 3: of shots. I think the one thing I would I

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Speaker 3: would assume is that the shot is way more difficult

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Speaker 3: than it appears on TV because you just can't see

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Speaker 3: the grain, the slope, the perception, and you can't really

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Speaker 3: value the circumstance. The other thing is that those guys

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Speaker 3: are so good basically one fifteen n You can't believe

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Speaker 3: how good they are. But good is meaning that they

446
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Speaker 3: don't miss the green.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking to improve your wedge game, right,

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Speaker 1: I think what you're saying there is hugely important. So wedges,

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Speaker 1: for if you look at the men's game, you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty much across the board, the majority of professional golfers

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Speaker 1: that play golf on the PGA Live DP Asia and wherever,

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Speaker 1: their wedges are from inside one hundred and fifty yards right.

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Speaker 1: For the rest of us, our wedge game is inside.

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Speaker 3: Of one hundred probably one hundred, maybe one.

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Speaker 1: One twenty max. If you can really push it. So

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Speaker 1: if you just think in terms of and this is

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Speaker 1: going to encumbass par threes as well, if the goal

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Speaker 1: every time you have one hundred and twenty yards and

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Speaker 1: in the goal should be if there was shot linked data, right,

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Speaker 1: if there was shot link data and there was strokes

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Speaker 1: gain data for the average golfer, and you can do

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Speaker 1: this on apps like clip I mean, that's one of

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Speaker 1: the ones that we use a lot. You can put

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Speaker 1: in your data and stuff. But from one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty and in for average golfers, strokes gained. If you

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Speaker 1: just hit the green, you are gaining strokes.

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Speaker 3: That is, that is the goal.

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Speaker 1: So from one hundred and fifty yards a tour player.

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Speaker 3: Is he's going to miss the green like ten times

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Speaker 3: a year, even for one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Round max max. They just do not miss the green.

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Speaker 1: So when you're watching golf on TV, if they've got

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Speaker 1: a wedge in their hand, notice they don't miss the green.

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Speaker 1: And if they do, they're mad, the caddy doesn't look happy.

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Speaker 2: And then the announcers will beat them up. They'll say,

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Speaker 2: that's a bad miss.

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Speaker 1: From one hundred and yes fifty yards, forty yards, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards, that's a bad The announcers will go,

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Speaker 1: that's a bad shot. The X players that are commentating,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like Kevin Kistner, guys like Trevor Immlman

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Speaker 1: that played if a good player a guy I lead,

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Speaker 1: If Roy McElroy's missing a I mean, that's the thing

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Speaker 1: thirteen this year at Augusta. If Rory McElroy hitting the

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Speaker 1: water with from under one hundred yards, that is a

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Speaker 1: horrendous shot for a player of his caliber. So from

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty and in again, auto pars, you

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Speaker 1: want to try. You want to start putting down some

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Speaker 1: auto pars on your score card from one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty in if you can pot halfway decent, think you

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Speaker 1: got a pretty decent chance to make a par.

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Speaker 3: That weitchat needs to hit a green and maybe a

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Speaker 3: great white chat is eight feet, but a great white

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Speaker 3: chat can also be twenty feet on the safe side

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Speaker 3: of the hole from one hundred yards doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be stripped, doesn't have to be inside the three foot circle.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing is we're talking about watching

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Speaker 1: golf on television, and then there's watching golf regular golf

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Speaker 1: on television, and then there's watching major championship golf, which

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Speaker 1: then things as a viewer get really really skewed because

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Speaker 1: I think when you're watching major championship golf, it really

501
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Speaker 1: kind of.

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Speaker 2: Gives you that is the elite of tournament golf.

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Speaker 1: Right there's regular golf tournaments that are really really good

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Speaker 1: and they're really fun to watch. And there are some

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Speaker 1: great courses right Riviera, you know, Memorial, there's some great

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Speaker 1: golf courses that they could play majors on that that

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Speaker 1: maybe do they've played majors at Riviera and stuff. There

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Speaker 1: are really hard golf courses, you know, like PG two

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Speaker 1: or Hartford's tough golf course right there. They're hard golf courses.

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Speaker 1: But when you're watching TV at major championships, you really

511
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Speaker 1: get to see it's on full display just how good

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Speaker 1: these players are because the golf courses are set up

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Speaker 1: so difficult. But as you said, for the majority of

514
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Speaker 1: people listening to the podcast, your home course is a

515
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Speaker 1: major championship course based off of your skill level. So

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Speaker 1: treat it as a treat it like when you're watching

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Speaker 1: the Masters and you look at you know, like the

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Speaker 1: sixth hole where they the par three where they put

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Speaker 1: that pin up on the top shelf. If you can

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Speaker 1: get it up on that top shelf, it's an unbelievable shot.

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Speaker 1: But if you miss that green to the right, it's

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Speaker 1: death right you're staring burgie or double. So look at

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Speaker 1: your own course like the Masters, like Augusta, look at

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Speaker 1: where these guys are hitting these shots so that they

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Speaker 1: give themselves nine right. There's pin positions at Augusta on

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Speaker 1: nine to where if you get above that hole, you're struggling.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they could put it off the groend.

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Speaker 2: You could put it off the green.

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Speaker 1: So look at where they hit it, and then listen

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Speaker 1: to what the commentators will say. That's the place he

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Speaker 1: was trying to hit it. In the majors, they will

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Speaker 1: always say because birdies are so hard to come by,

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Speaker 1: they will always say that's a great shot because this

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Speaker 1: is going to give him a chance to be aggressive,

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Speaker 1: or they'll hit it in a place to where he's

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Speaker 1: like listening, Like if you get it, If that pin

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Speaker 1: is down on the front right of seven at Augusta

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Speaker 1: and you hit it over you hit it above that pin,

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Speaker 1: or you hit it over that green, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to make a par unless you make a miraculous up

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Speaker 1: and down, or you hit an unbelievable first putt that

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Speaker 1: maybe has a chance to go in, or you're probably

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Speaker 1: if you get above the hole, you're probably gonna have

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Speaker 1: to hole of six to ten foot or for par.

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Speaker 1: So watch in the Majors where these guys are hitting

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Speaker 1: these shots, and then listen to what the announcers are

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Speaker 1: saying and then say, okay, why are they talking about

548
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Speaker 1: how good a shot that is? And then there are

549
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Speaker 1: times I think RC when you're watching golf on TV,

550
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Speaker 1: to where it won't for us mere mortals look like

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Speaker 1: a great shot if they miss a green or if

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Speaker 1: they hit a shot to a pin that's really really difficult,

553
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Speaker 1: but the announcers will say, that's an unbelievable shot, and

554
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Speaker 1: it's not to two feet, it's not to three feet.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they miss a green and they chip it and

556
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Speaker 1: they've got ten feet up the hill, and the announcers

557
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Speaker 1: will say, that's an unbelievable shot. So go back to

558
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Speaker 1: your own game, go back to your own course, and say, okay, listen,

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Speaker 1: if I miss this green, can I get this thing

560
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Speaker 1: below the hole so that I can have an uphill

561
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Speaker 1: pot that I can be a little bit more aggressive on,

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Speaker 1: because the last thing I want to do wherever the

563
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Speaker 1: pin is is put myself in this position, which then

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Speaker 1: makes my next pot hard.

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Speaker 3: I think eighteen yesterday for Fleetwood, second shot, after a

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Speaker 3: good decent T shots, second shot was a little downhill,

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Speaker 3: a little side here. He threw it out on the

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Speaker 3: left side of the green. He had, you know, forty

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Speaker 3: yards left. He didn't put it short seted, he didn't

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Speaker 3: put it in a bunker, he didn't hit it over

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Speaker 3: the green. He put it short left, and that gave

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Speaker 3: him the best opportunity to get up and down for

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Speaker 3: aberty shots like that. That's six iron. May not look

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Speaker 3: like a great shot on TV, but that was a

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Speaker 3: great executed plan.

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Speaker 1: Body language, I think is another thing when you're watching

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Speaker 1: golf on TV, watching what players body language does. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's never more evident than when a player

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Speaker 1: who's never won before he is trying to win for

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Speaker 1: the first time. We saw that in the last three

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Speaker 1: weeks with Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy Fleetwood has won golf tournaments before.

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Speaker 1: He's a great player. He's won, yeah, he's top ten,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen in the world. He has been for a

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Speaker 1: long time. He's won tournaments, but he's never won on

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Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. And over the last three weeks, look

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Speaker 1: at how well he has handled all of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that has gone on, right the near misses, and he

588
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Speaker 1: talked a lot on Sunday about he doesn't know if

589
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Speaker 1: he'd have been able to get the win if he

590
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Speaker 1: hadn't had the failures in the last couple of weeks

591
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Speaker 1: and learning from them. But from a body language standpoint,

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Speaker 1: if a player is trying to win for the first

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Speaker 1: time and he hits a bad shot, you will hear

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Speaker 1: the commentators say, he played that really really fast, right,

595
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Speaker 1: he played that really really fast and hit a bad shot.

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Speaker 1: Or he's taking a lot of time over this right,

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Speaker 1: he's taken a lot of time over this pot. He's

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of time over this chip. The announcers

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Speaker 1: will sometimes say, listen, this isn't that difficult a shot,

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Speaker 1: Or the indecisiveness. I think that interaction on par threes

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Speaker 1: or with irons, where the player will kind of have

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Speaker 1: an iron.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear the player.

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Speaker 1: Kind of talk to the caddy and you can see

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Speaker 1: by watching on TV, you can see that he doesn't

606
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Speaker 1: seem comfortable with the club. The announcers will say, it

607
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's comfortable with the club. The caddy

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Speaker 1: will come over, they'll talk, and then he'll hit a

609
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Speaker 1: shot and as soon as he hits it, he'll throw

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Speaker 1: the club back at the play and then what did

611
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Speaker 1: the announcers say? You could tell he never got comfortable.

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Speaker 1: He never committed.

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Speaker 3: Kind of see those extra steps, there's extra waggles, there's

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Speaker 3: extra little parts of the routines that you can kind

615
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Speaker 3: of see and he can kind of feel it back

616
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Speaker 3: at home Washington TV that this is not the normal

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Speaker 3: guy we've seen the previous few holes.

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Speaker 1: Look at players, I mean, think about your personality, right,

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Speaker 1: I think when you're trying to come up with a

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Speaker 1: pre shot routine, I think it's really hard. I think

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Speaker 1: it's hard to emulate what you see on television from

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Speaker 1: a pre shot routine if that's not authentic to you.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, there are guys on tour that are incredibly fidgety,

625
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Speaker 1: you know, Kegan Bradley Jordan, They're really.

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Speaker 2: Kind of fidgety.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of looks, a lot of regripts

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that sometimes, but they are on the

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Speaker 1: more fidgety side. Guys like Brooks, guys like DJ who

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Speaker 1: play very very fast. They their pre shot routines are

631
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Speaker 1: pretty much the same. They're really quick, They're really fast.

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Speaker 1: Greg Norman, Tiger Woods, Nick Foudo. Their pre shot routines

633
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Speaker 1: were longer and very very specific. Greg's was a lot

634
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Speaker 1: of visualization. Tigers was very very meticulous, but if you're

635
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Speaker 1: trying to emulate someone's pre shot routine, you've got to

636
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Speaker 1: think in terms of what type of person you are.

637
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: Are you a fast paced person, are you a slow

638
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: paced person? Are you a meticulate but whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: But I think one of the reasons why players are

640
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: he struggle with pre shot routines is you're trying to

641
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Speaker 1: emulate someone else's pre shot routine that isn't basically authentic

642
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Speaker 1: to them.

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Speaker 2: So from a.

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Speaker 1: Tour player's pre shot routine when you're watching it on TV,

645
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Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you can take

646
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Speaker 1: from a player and.

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Speaker 2: Then say, Okay, I'm gonna try.

648
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Speaker 1: And build my own preshot routine by doing some of

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Speaker 1: the things that the best players in the world do well.

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Speaker 3: I think speaking out loud may seem funny if you're

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Speaker 3: by yourself, but it definitely helps you kind of resonate

652
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Speaker 3: what you're trying to talk through the process. So talking

653
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: through the process, right.

654
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: You should be doing that if you're not doing that

655
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: out loud. I like the out loud thing. If you're

656
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: by yourself, you're on a par three and you're out

657
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: there and you're just going out and you're gonna play

658
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: nine holes and you're by yourself, and it's, you know,

659
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: one of those late rounds that everybody has where you're

660
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: not You're just going out to kind of play and

661
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: do a little bit on course practice. Go to the

662
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: par three and talk to yourself. Talk me through what

663
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: that self talk out loud on a par three would

664
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: sound like.

665
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, it's almost like I'm commentating from

666
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 3: the booth right, so I'm looking at the conditions. That's

667
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: good to number four here at Fluidian, we got a

668
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: one to eighty shot pin back left, water left, triple.

669
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: So talk out loud, describe the hole as if you

670
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: were an announcer. Okay, let's go to the fourth hole

671
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: at your home course, the whole. Yeah, the fourth hole Floridian,

672
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: Part four are part three.

673
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: Par three number four here Floridian. The green is probably

674
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 3: thirty five forty yards long. It has a little tier

675
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: in the middle of it, so you can have a

676
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: one to fifty five shot, you can have a one

677
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: ninety shot, almost dependent upon where the pin is. Let's

678
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: say it's back left, we got water left, pen back left,

679
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 3: the green slopes to the water. It's a difficult shot.

680
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: We've got a pin position on that par three front

681
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: left to where anything left of that flag don is

682
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: going to go into the water. So maybe the self

683
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: talk either in your head or I really like the

684
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: out loud part is imagine there was a drone doing

685
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: a flyover of the green and someone asked you to say, okay,

686
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: your home course the first par three talk three as

687
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: if you were an announcer, and say, describe the hole.

688
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Describe where the pin is today. So look at where

689
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: the pin is. Let's say the pin's front left and say, okay,

690
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: we've got you know, the poor three here at my

691
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: home course, one hundred and sixty five yards to pin

692
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: today is one hundred and forty. It's you know, on

693
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: the left three or four paces, five paces, six paces

694
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: from the left, you know, ten paces on from the

695
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: front water left kind of bunker right, you know, the

696
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: no go zone is kind of the water. Anywhere right

697
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: of the flag is going to be a good shot.

698
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: And then the process of what you're trying to do.

699
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: What does that sound like?

700
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 3: Yes, So from the booth, my mental booth right shots

701
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: one sixty five, the mental booth, I like that, the

702
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: mental booth, how about that? And then you know the

703
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: shots one sixty five. And throughout the day we've seen

704
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: a lot of players just go high right, just high right,

705
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: pin high right, somewhere right, and so a good shot

706
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: here today is going to be twenty five, twenty five right,

707
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 3: one sixty five. Let's say it's a six iron, seven

708
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: iron for people, maybe a wind coming in from right

709
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: to left, so it's going to push it towards the water.

710
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: The shot here, the target here is somewhere right of

711
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: the hole. So let's get something very concrete and very transparent.

712
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 3: We have a defined target. Let's say it's a tree

713
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: trunk behind the green somewhere, and we're going to focus

714
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: on that tree trunk. We're going to focus on the

715
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: high part of that tree truck. We're not going to

716
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: focus low. We're focusing high, So maybe the top part

717
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: of the tea trunk.

718
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: Meaning that's where you're trying to start the golf bus.

719
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: We're starting the golf ball right. And let's say our

720
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: stock shot is a job. We're going to start it

721
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: far enough right that if I hit a nice fettle

722
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: draw on there, we'll feedback left towards the hole.

723
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: Something I just thought of from a self talk standpoint is,

724
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: let's say you get to the first par three on

725
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: the course. So the first part three here at the

726
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: Floridian is the fourth right. So if you walked onto

727
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: the fourth t and whatever your handicap is, imagine you

728
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: had a booth. They were common hating and they were

729
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: going to give a synopsis of what you've just done

730
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: on the first three holes on one, two, and three.

731
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: So they would say, Okay, he's coming to this hole

732
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: and he's three over and he bogied one. He missed

733
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the green at one. He hasn't hit agreen yet, so

734
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: I think it's really important on this first part three

735
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: that he hits the green because he's missed. You know,

736
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: he's on the bogie train. He's three over. Really good

737
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: shot in here, imagine that, So that self talk would

738
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: be okay, or listen, really good drive on one Bertie

739
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: the first hit a really quality iron shot into two,

740
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: hit a really good pot and missed and then birdied

741
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the third hole. Listen, he's two under. He's obviously swinging good.

742
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: I expect to see a good shot here. You can

743
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: have that self talk in your head to where again

744
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: you're I think so many golfers, the interaction on the

745
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: golf course, between the player and the caddy.

746
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: The other one.

747
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: The thing that I think you should listen to is

748
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: how much they're talking about what they're going to do

749
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: or what they're trying to do as opposed to what

750
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: they're not trying to do.

751
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Right.

752
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: Yes, you will hear players in caddies say listen, yeah,

753
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to miss it to the left,

754
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: or we don't want to miss.

755
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: It to the riders.

756
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think you hear that as much as

757
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: you hear the player in the caddy talking about what

758
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: they're going to do, what they're trying to do.

759
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: It's all professional sports. Gonna have this talk. What are

760
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: we going to do today. We're gonna run this play.

761
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: As opposed to what we're not going to do as yet, well,

762
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: what we're not trying to do.

763
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna run this play. I'm gonna try not the fumble. Right.

764
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: We would never hear that in the NFL. College football,

765
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: never hear that, And then we hear it almost all

766
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: the time when we talk to these juniors after tournaments.

767
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: And I was trying not to go here. I had

768
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: a three wood from two forty five on the sidehill,

769
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: and I was trying not to hit it into the tree.

770
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: It's like pros never speak like that, they never carry

771
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: themselves like that. They I think one good fundamental that

772
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: we're kind of dancing around here is the think box

773
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: playbacks on the vision fifty four goals. And what we're

774
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: doing basically is we're making sure our think box and

775
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 3: our talk box has that definitive moment in conversation. But

776
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: once we step into the shot, it's go time, right,

777
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: it's one second go, it's two seconds ago, it's a waggle, go,

778
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: go go, And then we save the talk for the

779
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: next shot in that think box talk box, right. And

780
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: so we're never going to have the conversation when we're

781
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: actually over the golf book. If we do, we need

782
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: to step out. Makes sense, right, I'd say the only

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 3: one who would violate that rule is probably the Mary

784
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: Max Lee Trevino. He was always talking. But indeed you

785
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: want to be able to have that conversation. Think about

786
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: it from the booth perspective with ten year travel and

787
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: women with the accent speaking about the hole, the shot

788
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: like the accident. Yeh, he's my favorite favorite swing. Two

789
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: trev shout out the trip, but also separate separate the

790
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: talk from the action. Just go out there and swing it.

791
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: From the playboy, Why do you think it's so hard

792
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: for players to do that?

793
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: For some reason, golf, but that ball not moving creates

794
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: a lot of anxiety, a lot of performance anxiety that

795
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: ball not moving. Other sports, the ball is moving and

796
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: you don't have that time to react. You only have

797
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: time to physically react, right, Golf is just so much

798
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: more time that creates and the and the best players

799
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: in world. Obviously, I figured out that the shot itself

800
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: doesn't create that performance anxiety that we see in the

801
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: everyday golfer with the ball sitting there or the friends

802
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: sitting there hitting a good shot and now it's your turn. Right.

803
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: So it's hard, it's tough, it's a hard sport, but

804
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: there's ways to manage it all.

805
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about we talked about Tommy Fleetwood's

806
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: going back in and looking at you know, the data

807
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: and looking at you know, the stuff that we see

808
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: on TV and what we can.

809
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: Learn for it.

810
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: So the first round leader, Tommy Fleetwood sixty four seven birdies,

811
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: one bogie, eleven fairways, eleven out of fourteen fairways, fourteen

812
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: out of eighteen green took care of the par fives,

813
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: two birdies on par fours. Another thing you can do

814
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: is say, okay, who had the highest score.

815
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 2: That day? Okay, And if we look at round.

816
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: One for Sepstraca, right, so step shoots seventy four. Okay,

817
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: there's ten shots higher than Tommy Fleetwood. Right, So Tommy

818
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: hit eleven out of fourteen fairways. Sebstracta hit ten out

819
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: of fourteen fairways. So Tommy hit one more fairway for

820
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: sixty four concepted and Tommy had fourteen out of eighteen greens.

821
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: Sep had thirteen out of eighteen greens.

822
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: So Tommy Fleetwood shoots ten shots better by hitting one

823
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: more fairway and one more green. And if we look

824
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: at let's go back and look at the scorecards. So, scorecard,

825
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: how do you shoot seventy four? You make a seven

826
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: on a par five, so you don't make any birdies,

827
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: You bogie the ninth, you bogie.

828
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: Sixteen, and you make double on a par five.

829
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: So he plays the par threes even and plays the

830
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: par fives in two over.

831
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying for that round two that he just

832
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: did not put anywhere.

833
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty two total feet of putting for Sepstraka in

834
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: round one, Tommy fleet would one hundred and nine.

835
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: Yep. So putting is important.

836
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: So I guess my point behind all of this RC,

837
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: and the reason why I won to talk about this

838
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: stuff on the podcast is there are a lot of

839
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: ways that you can improve your game by not doing

840
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: anything technically right learning how to execute better. And there's

841
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: so much data available now. Like you would think that

842
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: the massive, massive difference between substractor seventy four and Tommy

843
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Fleetwood shooting sixty four would be ball striking, it's not.

844
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: He's hit one more fair way and one more green.

845
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: To The situations were practically the same, right from ten thousand.

846
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Feet, So it's not always what you think. And I

847
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: just think that there is so much information available now

848
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: online you can go back in and watch, you know.

849
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I think one of the great things that we do

850
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: for our junior golfers is go back and watch the

851
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: every shot component on YouTube.

852
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: Right, we do that for our juniors. Right. We did

853
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: this recently.

854
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: We had a bunch of our juniors together and we

855
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: went back and looked at brooks kept 's round from

856
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: Belly where he won the PGA against you know, Tiger's

857
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: chasing him down the stretch. Adam Scott's chasing it down

858
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: the stretch, right. And I think the title of the

859
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: of the YouTube videos you know can be Brooks kept

860
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: a storms to victory. You know this, that and the other.

861
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: But you watch the first six seven holes of that,

862
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: he's making bogies, He's missing greens. So my point behind

863
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: all of this is when you watch golf, either on

864
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: TV or online, look at it objectively and look at

865
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: it factually. Yes, the best players in the world will

866
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: hit some iron shots to two feet right. Yes, they

867
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Speaker 1: will hold sixty footers right. Yes, they will chip one in.

868
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Yes they will drive it in places where even the

869
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: announcers are blown away and they're kind of blown away.

870
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Speaker 1: But don't miss the basic they do the really obvious thing.

871
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Speaker 3: Well, yes, they take a bogie if they need to, Right,

872
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 3: they take a bogie if they need to. They don't

873
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: miss the green with a wedge.

874
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other thing. I mean.

875
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Speaker 1: Tour players. I've said this before on the pod. Tour players,

876
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: when they get out of position off the tee, when

877
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Speaker 1: they're in trouble off the tee, they make bogee eighty

878
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: percent of the time. Right, So when you're watching golf

879
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: on TV. Look at how these players are making bogie.

880
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Is it a There's two types of bogeys right for

881
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: and it's terms we use. There's a great bogie and

882
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: then there's that's a soft bogee right one hundred and

883
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: fifty yards from the fairway, misses the green, hits a

884
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: bad chip shot and makes bogie. That's a bad that's

885
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: a soft bogie right, that's basically giving shots way. And

886
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: then there are bogies where the announcers you can tell

887
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: the player you'll see a fist pump fifteen foot par

888
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: pot right.

889
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: And the other thing is watch.

890
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: How aggressive the par putts are versus how aggressive the

891
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: birdie putts are. I don't know why, but tour players

892
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: tend to put par putts hyper hyper aggressive because they're

893
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: trying not to lose the shot. And I always say, sometimes,

894
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: if you have a player that's putting poorly, listen, take

895
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: the same approach you have on the bogie potts to

896
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: the birdie potts.

897
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: You get fifteen feet.

898
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: It's crazy watching the speed and watching how much more

899
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: aggressive the read is on a fifteen foot par pot

900
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: or a fifteen foot bogie pott. Because the last thing

901
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: you want to do is make it double on tour.

902
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe it's a little bit more.

903
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: A sense of there's a psychological thing going on. There's

904
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: a little more sense.

905
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: And you'll see someone from fifth leave one short or

906
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: not hit a great pot, and the announcers will go,

907
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't a very good pott fifteen feet for par.

908
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: They burn in the edge, they're lipping it out. If

909
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't go in, they're probably hitting it past the hole.

910
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: That's the other thing I would look at as well.

911
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: If it's a fut for par, look at how many

912
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: times players have on TV a putt for par and

913
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: look at how many times it gets past the hole

914
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: versus how many times they have a putt for birdie

915
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: and leave it short. I think you'll be surprised. Yeah,

916
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: I think you'll be surprised at how many times the

917
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: best golfers on the planet underread a birdie pot and

918
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: don't hit at the right speed from fifteen to twenty feet.

919
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: And then you look at a twenty footer that they

920
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: make for par. I mean they'll walk it it in.

921
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little more comfort maybe with that birdie putt.

922
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: And then with the part Putt, there's a little more

923
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: must have, must need, can't avoid a shot lost here.

924
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: So again trying to take something from watching TV the

925
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: best players in the world, Putt, like the best players

926
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: in the world do are right? Make them trying to

927
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: make them the tour players trying to not give a

928
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: shot back, right.

929
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't think.

930
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: They're really protecting that shock.

931
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: It's the world that tour players that are playing for

932
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: a living, It's the world they live in. They know

933
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: that if they make a boguee, they're going down the

934
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: leader board. Right, they make a bogie or a double

935
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: on a par five, they're now on the cut line

936
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: and it's Thursday, and then they're in the morning group.

937
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: Talk to Ricky BMW right inside the top thirty with

938
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: nine holes to play. I think, basically and sadly, couldn't

939
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 3: get it done finish thirty second. I think, yeah, crazy, listen.

940
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: I think there are so many things that you can

941
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: try and do to try and make your game better.

942
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I always talk about

943
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: and Artie, I know it's something that you preach toler

944
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Junior's that constant balance of technique versus execution.

945
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Watch TV and always.

946
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: Remember, it's going to be very, very hard for you

947
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: to do what Scotti Schefler does unless you're six foot

948
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: four and you have his body. You can't climb inside

949
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: a tour player's body, right, It's going to be very

950
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: hard for you to emulate a swing position that you're

951
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: watching on television. Yes, I have golf swings that I

952
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: love watching by Tommy Fleetwood's got one of the golf swings.

953
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: I love watching. Adam Scott has one of the golf

954
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: swings I love watching, right, But I also love watching

955
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Bubba Watson's golf swing. I also love watching Scotti Scheffler's

956
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: golf swing because there's nobody right now that I see

957
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: on YouTube trying to teach Scotti Scheffler footwork, trying to

958
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: teach the Scotty Scheffler position at the top of the backswing.

959
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: Right.

960
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: But take the things that you can take away from

961
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: tour players and how to players play the game when

962
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: you're watching it on TV. Yes, marvel at the golf swings,

963
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: Marvel at the speed, Marvel at the slow motion stuff,

964
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Marvel at the data that they give you on how

965
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: far and ball speed and stuff like that. But hyper

966
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: focus on how they're playing the game, how they're hitting

967
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: their shots, where they're hitting their shots, and then work

968
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: backwards and try and say, Okay, what can I take

969
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: from what I just watched and now apply it to

970
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: my own game.

971
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: I can have a perfect pre shot routine. I can

972
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: have really good prepared planning.

973
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: I can try and par all the par fives. I

974
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: can try and not miss any of the greens on

975
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: the par threes. I can really try as a strategy

976
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: today to miss no greens from inside of one hundred

977
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: and twenty yards. I could really try and say, Okay,

978
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: if I get out of position off the tee, I

979
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: make bogie eighty percent of the time.

980
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: Today.

981
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: You're if you're a ten to twenty handicapper, you're gonna

982
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: hit bad shots, You're gonna make bad swings.

983
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: You're gonna have maybe one perfect shot a week. But

984
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: you can have multiple perfect prep pre shots planning for

985
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: each shot every time. Really good stuff, Ryan, That's good

986
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: and as long too. You've got your new kind of

987
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: Instagram site, give it to us golf khouse Manage, yep.

988
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: Golf Chaos Manage, which you're using some AI stuff to

989
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: just kind of talk about this execution part of golf

990
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to the technique side of golf.

991
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're basically AI enhanced drills and games you can

992
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: take to the course that are also physical as well.

993
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: So there's there's a component to our coaching now where

994
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: we have a kind of a high intensity activity before

995
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: we execute some sort of finessed shot if you will,

996
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: like a fifty box stumps in a row, then got

997
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: and putt. So we're trying to elevate our heart rates

998
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: and physiological responses, right, because that's what's happening on the

999
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 3: golf course. So you've got a practice and like you playing.

1000
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: And I think if you're trying to execute better at golf.

1001
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: Chaos managed at Instagram some really cool stuff.

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00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: Thanks Arsie.

1003
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Speaker 1: As always, it's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We

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Speaker 1: will see you next week.