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Speaker 3: All right, Rory, So we're back for another episode of

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Speaker 3: Don't Know Ball? Yes, so where we could let our

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Speaker 3: fans know exactly how much of ball we do not know.

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Speaker 3: But it's okay because we invite we invite people on

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Speaker 3: we are joined by a.

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Speaker 2: Legend. Is one of the few legends that we've had.

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Speaker 3: Definitely a legend, somebody that I think has helped the

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Speaker 3: NFL look the way it looks today at this at

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Speaker 3: the quarterback position. So with the second pick in the

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine NFL draft, Rory, the Philadelphia Eagles selected

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Speaker 3: a legend a dog, a competitor, one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: ever from the Syracuse University University of Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: Donovan McNabb. And then we double salute don true true

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Speaker 2: Philly fashion, they bowed the person that made their franchise.

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Speaker 3: Yes, which was absolutely crazy. But we are joined by

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Speaker 3: the legend Donovan McNabb. Sir, how are you feeling, Donovan?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 2: You look good.

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Speaker 3: You look great, You look like you could still play.

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Speaker 3: What you're doing, man, trying to get back out there.

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Speaker 4: Man, by the win, they're giving that money out one year, yeah,

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Speaker 4: My kids are all active in sports. I have a

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Speaker 3: Donovan just told us basically all his kids are working.

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Speaker 3: First of all, he has y'all gonna earn if you

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Speaker 4: Well the's funny thing is, man, I got an that's

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately didn't win it last year in Game seven. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Woo you got boo Draft night, And to this day,

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Speaker 3: What was that feeling initially when you hear your name,

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Speaker 3: So you have your moment, but then your moment is

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Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of athletes getting there, they're just due.

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Speaker 4: Made one for for Iverson. Ai and I came out

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Speaker 4: you sitting and talking to these sins, because it's a

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Speaker 4: job interview at the end of the day, it's a

436
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Speaker 4: job interview.

437
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Speaker 2: You know.

438
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Speaker 4: They want to know can you be a CEO of

439
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Speaker 4: their company with ten to twenty to thirty million dollars

440
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: on the table and can you handle that, you know

441
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 4: what I mean, still be focused on the task at hand.

442
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Speaker 4: So I didn't think he would draft. He would drop

443
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Speaker 4: to the fifth round. That's a real big drop. Normally

444
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Speaker 4: it would probably happen in the third round, mid second.

445
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Speaker 4: But the funny thing for me is when mel Kiper

446
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Speaker 4: was up on stage and he's harping, you know what

447
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Speaker 4: they're doing. They don't know how to valuate quarterbacks when

448
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: just last year or two years ago he was pushing

449
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Speaker 4: for Will Levis to be in that same position and

450
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Speaker 4: it didn't work out for Will Levins.

451
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Speaker 2: So it will mails you know, the best judge of

452
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Speaker 2: talent when it comes to quarterbacks especially.

453
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Speaker 4: Would be able to pick up and learn the West

454
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Speaker 4: Coast office for years and.

455
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Speaker 2: Then fucking find one. Yeah, So on on your way

456
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Speaker 2: to your first EA Sports meeting. Did you have in

457
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Speaker 2: the back of your mind maybe the Madden curse is real?

458
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a big guy believe in curses.

459
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Speaker 4: I'm not even that I got hurt in years, I don't.

460
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Speaker 4: I don't believe in that. Now people say, well, you

461
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Speaker 4: you know, well me and Mike Vic and I think

462
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 4: Ray got heard or whatever. You know, but things have

463
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Speaker 4: changed over the recent years for guys that have been

464
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Speaker 4: on the cover of Madden, expectations are higher. After you're

465
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Speaker 4: on on the cover, people were expecting great things or whatever.

466
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Speaker 4: If you have a down year compared to the previous

467
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Speaker 4: year and then everyone looks at it in that particular way.

468
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Speaker 4: But I'm not a big believer in the curses.

469
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Speaker 2: What's the process like with that outside of you just

470
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Speaker 2: being on the cover, Like, were you heavily involved when

471
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Speaker 2: they put the green suit on you and have to

472
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Speaker 2: get your mannerisms and everything. What's the process of making

473
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Speaker 2: the I'm.

474
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Speaker 4: Trying to remember. I know I went to San Diego

475
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Speaker 4: and did some of that stuff where the bulls and stuff.

476
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Speaker 4: You know, I did some of that stuff. But you

477
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: gotta remember too, at that time there was no, there

478
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Speaker 4: was no fork was it four K or whatever? You know,

479
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: we were talking.

480
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: We just saw your number. We saw your number.

481
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Speaker 4: That's it. You got closed caption, you got like four cameras.

482
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Speaker 4: Now you got cameras everywhere.

483
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Speaker 2: It was.

484
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Speaker 4: It was an exciting time for me because we were

485
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Speaker 4: all playing Matten at that time. While we're playing, there

486
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: was no fantasy football, there was none of this other stuff.

487
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 4: It was hey, man, you get to one of your

488
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 4: boys house, man, you grab a drink, everybody sitting there

489
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Speaker 4: and order some pizza. A man, I'm up first, like

490
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Speaker 4: you am mad? All right? Like now it's like on

491
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Speaker 4: the computer, it's Internet, it's all this other stuff that's

492
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Speaker 4: going on, and so man, it's it was a great

493
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Speaker 4: honor for me.

494
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Speaker 2: I have to ask in the locker room when the

495
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Speaker 2: new Madden Gang drops, is anyone is anyone upset about

496
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Speaker 2: their rating?

497
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Speaker 4: I was at that point. You got to remember, at

498
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Speaker 4: that point we were just playing. I was because I

499
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Speaker 4: think I did an event and it was me and

500
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Speaker 4: Tony Gonzalez and they were talking to Tony about his speed,

501
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Speaker 4: his catching, and so Tony's I think at that point

502
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Speaker 4: Tony might have had a ninety two speed or something

503
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Speaker 4: to that effect, and I had like an eighty six

504
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Speaker 4: or something.

505
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Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a minute, we can go

506
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Speaker 2: outside and race right now.

507
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, yo, we can

508
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: line up like I know, y'a. But you know, it

509
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 4: was like he was talking about it and that was

510
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: all my mindset, like the speed, like I'm fashion than him.

511
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Speaker 4: But it was just it's still to that point. At

512
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Speaker 4: that time, man, it was just an honor to be

513
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Speaker 4: on the cover because here's a kid out of Chicago,

514
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Speaker 4: who we got Chicago sometimes newspaper, you know, w g

515
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Speaker 4: A TV. You know, we got we got that's our

516
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: social media. If you make it in the paper in Chicago,

517
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: that mean you did something. And so going through going

518
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: to Syracuse, but we got the Syracuse you know newspaper

519
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: that's the school paper. And then obviously in Syracuse that

520
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: was a big thing. Now we're talking about on the

521
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Speaker 4: cover of a video game that I know everybody in

522
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: America is playing. Yeah, like that was a real big

523
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: honor for me. And I was on the cover of

524
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: Backyard Football. Yeah yeah, yeah, come on.

525
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Speaker 2: I totally forgot to go Backyard for I forgot about

526
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: that one.

527
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: And all that.

528
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I share with you the same.

529
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Speaker 2: Tony Gonzalez is a legend, but ninety two speed is

530
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: fucking crazy. For yeah, I was like, where's Marshall? Fuck like.

531
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Speaker 4: What I'm saying. So we didn't I mean the whole

532
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: ninety nine ratings and all that now, but yeah, we

533
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 4: wasn't getting all that back in the day.

534
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Super Bowl. So what happened.

535
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Speaker 3: What's the story about mcdonovan McNabb throwing up. It's false,

536
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: didn't happen, No way doing this shit.

537
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: Okay, it's false. It didn't happen. There's no video of it.

538
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: I could tell you straight out top of it wasn't

539
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: it didn't happen. Did I get hit in the mouth? Yeah, okay,

540
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: I got hit in the mouth, like the third playing

541
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: the game from Teddy Bruski, Like right up under ship

542
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 4: it will.

543
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Speaker 2: Be Teddy Ruski. Yeah, great media guy now too.

544
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, but you know again, it was interesting

545
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: because it was we lost the game, and I think

546
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Speaker 4: there were a comment by one of my offensive linemen

547
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Speaker 4: or somebody said like I was tired or whatever may be. Yeah,

548
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm tired. We're playing the Super Bowl. But I'm like, okay,

549
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: and then it went to you know, throwing up or whatever,

550
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, what are y'all talking about? So

551
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: this has been now twenty plus years and everybody's still

552
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: talking about it. There's no video of me throwing up.

553
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: It didn't happen.

554
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Speaker 2: If social media existed at that time, do you think it.

555
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: Would have ended? It would have ended right after that

556
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: because you have no footage or no evidence in that.

557
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Would you have cleared it up though, like say a

558
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: Twitter or Instagram no existed, Because.

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Speaker 4: The thing with me is I'm not gonna give any

560
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Speaker 4: more legs or energy or gas to something that doesn't

561
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Speaker 4: make sense. Okay, So I never talk about anything unless

562
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Speaker 4: it's presented to me. And then I gave the same answers,

563
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: Like for twenty years, I've been giving the same answers.

564
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: But people, it's still a question people keep bringing up.

565
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Speaker 2: And I mean, even though it was back when there

566
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Speaker 2: wasn't like cell phone cameras, it was the fucking Super Bowl,

567
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: somebody would have that footage. Cameras everywhere, cameras everywhere. No,

568
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Speaker 2: the only thing not boosted with boost Mobile is the

569
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Speaker 2: price is mall. I freestyled that they didn't even tell

570
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Speaker 2: me to say that nice. That was bars. With Boost Mobile,

571
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Speaker 2: you pay twenty five dollars a month forever. That is

572
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Speaker 2: unlimited talk, text and data starting at just twenty five

573
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Speaker 3: Five G speeds not available in all areas. After thirty

575
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577
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Speaker 3: on the Boost Unlimited plan. So with with the with

578
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Speaker 3: the quarterback position now in the NFL, who is Who's

579
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Speaker 3: some of your guys that you look at that you

580
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Speaker 3: can't like you have to watch their game, like I

581
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Speaker 3: gotta watch. I love watching them play. He approaches the

582
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Speaker 3: game the right way. Who is some of those guys

583
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Speaker 3: for you?

584
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Speaker 4: Well, starts with Patrick because I have I have that

585
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Speaker 4: relationship with Patrick obviously being coached by Andy Reid, right,

586
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Speaker 4: And I've talked to Patrick on many occasions. Almost every

587
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, every Super Bowl or that I talked to

588
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: the team, they won, oh wow, and the team and

589
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: the time I didn't, we won, so uh.

590
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: So it.

591
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: Worked out well in New Orleans. But Andy's my guy.

592
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Speaker 4: So I love watching Patrick. I love watching Lamar Josh Allen.

593
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: I love watching you know, Joe Burrow and the weapons

594
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Speaker 4: that he has. I love. I loved watching two of

595
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Speaker 4: them because of plays a game a different way and

596
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Speaker 4: I would love for him to be healthier, uh, if

597
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Speaker 4: he was to be able to finish out full seasons,

598
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Speaker 4: because I think two is one of those guys that's

599
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: truly accurate. He throws with anticipation, doesn't have the strongest

600
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Speaker 4: of arms, and he has he has a little bit

601
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Speaker 4: of dog in him, which I would love for him

602
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: to protect himself a little bit more, but sometimes you

603
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: just can't. You can't pull back that kind of energy

604
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: when you already have it. And then also Baker may

605
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: Field brings he brings different type of attitude to the

606
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: game where he has a linebacker mentality, you know, quarterback position,

607
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: and so I just love watching these particular guys and

608
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: the offers is something different. And so obviously I had

609
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Speaker 4: Jalen hurtson there because as my guy, that was.

610
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Speaker 2: Just great to say. If you don't say, Jalen, we

611
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Speaker 2: got to ask why.

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Speaker 4: Well, No, I mean I've been Jayla's like a little

613
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Speaker 4: brother to me, you know, I've been mentoring and talking

614
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Speaker 4: to Jalen since his name was called. And I tried

615
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: to explain to people when he was drafted that he

616
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: was coming into the quarterback room as the grown man

617
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Speaker 4: in the room. Here's a guy that that has so

618
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: many offensive coordinators since his freshman year Alabama all the

619
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: way to Oklahoma to Philadelphia, and so he's learned four

620
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: different offenses in four or five years.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about it like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you know, and he was coached by

623
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Speaker 4: his dad in high school, and people don't realize he

624
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: was the starting quarterback as a seat in Alabama as

625
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: a sea you're in high school. He went up in

626
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: the spring, played spring ball, competed to win that position,

627
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: to start his freshman year at Alabama at Alabama University,

628
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Speaker 4: and to go to the National Championship. And so it

629
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: says a lot about like him winning the Super Bowl,

630
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Speaker 4: going to the Super Bowl two years. That's not a

631
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Speaker 4: shock to me because he's played almost every year he's

632
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: played in the National Championship Game almost except when he

633
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Speaker 4: was at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that we do say about Jalen, he

635
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: carries himself like an older professional. Yeah, he's he's very professional, exactly.

636
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Speaker 4: That's My point, like, these young kids in college need

637
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: to take on the role of these guys like Jalen

638
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: and be more professional. And I guarantee you this, they'll

639
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 4: make more money. You take the gold out your mouth,

640
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: You stop walking around with two hundred thousand dollars around

641
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Speaker 4: your neck talking about talking to third person in the

642
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Speaker 4: media when you're getting interviewed. These are different things they

643
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: need to understand. Yeah, the money you're getting to go

644
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Speaker 4: to the university, that's good with the collective and all

645
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: of that, but you can make so much other more money,

646
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Speaker 4: like for instance, Kaitlan Clark, Kaitlan Clark, everybody want to

647
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: talk about what she's making now, what she's done. Kayln

648
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: Clark made like three million dollars off the court from

649
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Speaker 4: State Farm and all this other stuff that because that's

650
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Speaker 4: the professionalism is where the money is outside of what

651
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Speaker 4: you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you on that? Back to the field,

653
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: who was the corner or safety that gave you the

654
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: most trouble throughout your career?

655
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: You had Dion who I played against Dion when he

656
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: was in Dallas, I think when he was in Washington,

657
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: when he was in Baltimore. Ernias Williams with the Rams,

658
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: you know he was, he was solid Hall of Famer.

659
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: You know safeties, I mean Sean Taylor was a was

660
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: an animal, and safety Troy Paula Walla was was a beast.

661
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: Darrin Sharper, even my own Brian Dawkins. You know, I

662
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: see him every day at practice, and you know, obviously

663
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: I didn't have to compete with him come game time

664
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 4: because he changes into a whole different person of game time.

665
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: But again, like Deans, Michael Straighthan, you know, t Suggs,

666
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: like all these guys that I played against that that

667
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: are Hall of famers and were dynamic, you know at

668
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: their position.

669
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on a toush push? And I'm

670
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: trying to get rid of it.

671
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it, because the funny

672
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: thing is everybody has tried it. Not everybody's been as

673
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: successful as the Philadelphia. Nobody's gotten hurt, nobody's careers ended

674
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: because of it. Now, is it hard? Yeah, I'm sure

675
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: it's hard to stop. But Kansas City stopped Buffalo and

676
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: they tried to do it three times. Fact, you know

677
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think Baltimore had their reign with

678
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: it a little bit but then they just decided not

679
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: to put Lamar and the Harms away and then just

680
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: give it to Derrick Henry. The list goes on of

681
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: other teams that have tried it, they just haven't been

682
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: as successful as Philadelphia.

683
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: Now, you dropped some names when we were told them

684
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: about how you had Philly on fire when it came

685
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: to rap, Beanie siegu pd Crag. Who are some of

686
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: the guys that you were listening to on your way

687
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: to the stadium. Like what was Donovan listening to in

688
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: his in his car.

689
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: State property? You know, he all a Philly, all my

690
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: Philly representatives. You know, I was an R and B

691
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: head you know, I was an R and B head man.

692
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 4: And remember at that time we had music sold Kyle Belile,

693
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: all of all the R and bs from Philly, but

694
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: me very from Chicago and people you know, may get

695
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: a little little witty, but I was an ar Kelly fan.

696
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: R Kelly in the.

697
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: Booth, Yeah, Kelly Kelly in the booth all us, Yeah.

698
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 4: R Kelly in the booth, you know, from a vant uh.

699
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: And then I'll even throw my girl to Brandon that

700
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: because he from the crib as well.

701
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, so I was I was a.

702
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: Mix depending on how I was feeling at that particular time.

703
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: It was either R and B R and B remixes

704
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: or was it just straight up Harcourt rapp?

705
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: I like how Donovan went from State Property. Yeah, you

706
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: had to get his Jill Scott there first.

707
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: With the R and B.

708
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: Like, no, that's a complete playlist. What would be your

709
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: top five Philly rappers?

710
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: Uh? Oh, Dad, that's hard.

711
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: You gotta go beans where you gave us beans already.

712
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but that's hard because you know you

713
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: got beans, you got beans free way. Always always got

714
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: to put even there because he changed the game for

715
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: the for the females in the rap game. You know, Uh,

716
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: that's that's the next next two is kind of hard.

717
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: But he said state property, so that covers off.

718
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 4: So that that that kind of throws through four of them.

719
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: And you you were going by the time Meat probably

720
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: showed up right, Yeah?

721
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: Well me me, actually, I was. I was toward the out,

722
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: but my brother worked with me. But Mick is definitely

723
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 4: in that top five obviously representing Philly, you know, because

724
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: when it comes to old school, like you know, Will

725
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: Smith and all of them, if you want to put

726
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: Will Smith in that that group. But what Will Smith

727
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: did just kind of on both angles, you know, changed

728
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 4: added a little bit more to the game.

729
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: Do your kids like Uzzie?

730
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: You know what they don't. I mean, I don't know

731
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: what they listened to, you know, because it's not so

732
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: much of the lyrics like like when we used to

733
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: nas jay z like you know all back in at

734
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: that time, like we were about lyrics common. Yeah. Now

735
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: it's just like you got to have a catchy hook

736
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: and a beat because some of the stuff, I don't

737
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: think they opened up their mouth. It's beyond mumble raps. Now,

738
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: back in the day you had the mumble.

739
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Wrap that was that was no just don't even did

740
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: anyone try to wrap in the in the locker room, uh.

741
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: I mean you had some freestyle sessions fret, but it

742
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: wasn't prevalent like that. You know. It wasn't like we

743
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: had one guy that that can drop some bars like

744
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: some people. You you you try to push them the

745
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: rap because you know it's gonna be stupid. You know,

746
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: it's one of them guys like you have somebody read.

747
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: But you know he can't read, like yeah, so let's

748
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: make him wrap some rookie Hazen for sure. So we

749
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: spoke to one of the former teamates, Lashan McCoy. We

750
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: had him on uh probably last week?

751
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: Was that last week? Two weeks ago? Two weeks ago? Yeah,

752
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: and uh, and talking to him, he he wants to know,

753
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: why is it that? Why do you feel like.

754
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: Philly fans don't embrace Donovan McNabb, like you're not the

755
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: guy that really helped bring the Eagles back to a

756
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: respectable organization.

757
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

758
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: That's That's the one that I can't answer, to be

759
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: honest with you. I mean, I did what I did.

760
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: You know, I did a lot of stuff in the community.

761
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: You know, I gat here with with Philadelphia. So at

762
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: some point they always kind of was, you know, he's

763
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: not he's not one of us, whatever the hell that means.

764
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: But you know that was it was saying that about

765
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 2: somebody from Chicago. Was crazy.

766
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that he's not one of us,

767
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: Like okay, parents in the house, right, you know what

768
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: I mean?

769
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: Championships.

770
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: I know how to carry myself like a wrong man,

771
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean? Never it may be,

772
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: but you know what's funny, Like you'll hear a small

773
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: portion of percentage of people that say stuff like that, Yeah,

774
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: but the mass, mass percentage of people know that I'm

775
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: all about Philly, and they were very supportive of what

776
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: I've been able to accomplish and do and what I

777
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: was able to do in my my decade of playing

778
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: there absolutely success bad and everything I was able to accomplish.

779
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Philly fans individually are good people, but

780
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: when they get together there's some of the worst animals

781
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: I've ever come across from my entire life, Like to

782
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: the point that you take them to five NFC Championships

783
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: and they honor a bartender that made special teams and

784
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: make a movie about it. Like, Philly fans are the

785
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: weirdest human beings I've ever fucking met.

786
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: But you know what, you know what it is, it's

787
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: it's and that's wasn't social media, it was talk radio. Yeah,

788
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: And so you know, people want to you know, expose

789
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: or kind of let out bad energy of how they

790
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: feel about a game, how they feel about And then

791
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: I became a lightning rod. My name became a lightning

792
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: rod for people to you know, say they're expressed their

793
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: feelings about how I played in the game or how

794
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: whatever it may have been or we won, it wasn't

795
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 4: because to me, whatever it may been, and it became

796
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 4: about talk radio. And so anytime I speak, like even

797
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: probably after this whole this show we're doing, and y'all

798
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: put excerts out about, you know, about some of the

799
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 4: questions and some of my answers, I'm sure a whole

800
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: lot of people will probably come negative about. You know,

801
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: I can't stand when these talks or no one cares,

802
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: you know, whatever may be watching it. I've always explained

803
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: to people, if you mentioned my name, that means you're thinking.

804
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: About that's the fact.

805
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: Thank you. You know, I appreciate.

806
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: Who are some of Who are some of your most

807
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: underrated quarterbacks in the league right now? I know you

808
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: said too you kind of feel like he deserves more love. Okay,

809
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: who are some of your most underrated quarterbacks right now

810
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 3: in the league?

811
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: I would say probably Russell Wilson. Oh okay, you know,

812
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: I'll throw m you know, Justin Herbert, although people put

813
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: Justin in that top five, which I don't think he's

814
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: the top five quarterback, but he's underrated because this offense

815
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 4: that Harbaugh has incorporated, it's old school, it's run first play, action,

816
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: quick game, explosive plays. So he's gonna now start to explode.

817
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: I believe in this offense. I think people like, what's

818
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 4: my man name? He's out in Oakland now from Seattle,

819
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 4: Gino Smith, Gino is since his opportunity, He's he's flourished

820
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: in in the moment, he's played well. I think Brock

821
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: Purty of what he's been able to do so far,

822
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: uh being an Arizona kid too, showing some love and

823
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: guys like that. I just look at guys like that

824
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: that I think like two guys that I look at

825
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: and I'm kind of watching to see what happens in

826
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: these next couple years for them is Trevor Lawrence and

827
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: Justin Fields. I hope the best for Justin because he's

828
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: a good kid, comes with great family and he just

829
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 4: needs an opportunity where he's in a great system, where

830
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: they have great players around him to be able to

831
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: just play his game.

832
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing against Belichick. Do you have any predictions for

833
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: this upcoming season with North Carolina.

834
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: I think they'll be I think they'll be competitive. I

835
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: think they'll be probably a little bit of mid midway

836
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: in the pack in the ACC because he doesn't have

837
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: his full recruits here. I think he's been recruiting heavily

838
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: of the twenty seventh class and a little bit of

839
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: the twenty sixth class, and so the twenty five class

840
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: he hasn't been able to kind of jump on that

841
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: because he came in late. He got a few guys.

842
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 4: And I think the transfer portal for a school like

843
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 4: Carolina would be big. Who doesn't want to wear the

844
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: Jordan brand, who doesn't want to wear the baby? But

845
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 4: I always dream to play in North Carolina, And I

846
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: think for for Belichick, I think two years from now,

847
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: two three years from now, they'll be they'll be up

848
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: in the lights with Clemson, uh, Okay State and you

849
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 4: know in that where you start talking a little bit

850
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 4: about North Carolina football.

851
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: Now, before we let you go, Donovan, I got to

852
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: bring this up. So your former teammate Freddie Mitchell put

853
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: together an album, and is this this this there's a

854
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: there's there's remnants. I'm hearing things that there may be

855
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: a Donovan McNabb verse. You may have recorded a verse

856
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: for an album.

857
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Is that true? Did you lay some bars.

858
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: Down you telling me on on on Freddy's album? Yeah?

859
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

860
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna try to get you to spend some

861
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: bars real quick.

862
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Uh. If Freddy's doing that, that's gonna be interesting.

863
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: It's hilarious. Would I be Would I be on this? No? No,

864
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: absolutely not. You know, you know, as the Fellas get together,

865
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 4: we have fun. Yeah, comes out fit some stupid bars

866
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: that don't make sense, but we think it's hot. Yeah,

867
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: you can't take it nowhere else.

868
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: It just stays in, It stays in. He recorded it though,

869
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: So if he did record this and.

870
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: And thing came out like like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

871
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: Speak speaking of bars, we put together a list of

872
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: rappers that have name dropped you in their verses, and

873
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 2: we want to see if you could guess which rapper

874
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: it was. We'll start with the first one. Excuse me,

875
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: but cuse me, gott to see you got it? Excuse me?

876
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: What happened? I'm flyer than Robin, I'm flyer than an Eagle. Yeah,

877
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: Donovan mcnabbn. Do you know rapper that is? These are

878
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: Philly rappers just across the board, rappers in general.

879
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: Now, who's that?

880
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh the barbs are gonna kill you. That's Nicki Minaj,

881
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj?

882
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: Is it? What? What? Song.

883
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 2: Was that shaking it for daddy? Pause? I'm just answered

884
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: your question. Your dog would be a question you asked

885
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: me a question I answered Donna then turned the rapper.

886
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: He made sure a wife he wasn't walking in the room.

887
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: Wait what Okay, I definitely had to look that up.

888
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: It's Robin thinking NICKI minaj Oh, okay, well smart and

889
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: be there.

890
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: Robin was popping back. Okay. I don't know if I'm

891
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: gonna type it taking it for daddy.

892
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't feel right typing that in.

893
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what to make pop up.

894
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: It definitely fun with your algorithms. Another one, Uh, when

895
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: we met you was a V like Donna.

896
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Now you're in the field running plays like Donovan mcnad

897
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: before you get in the cab.

898
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Oh yay, Kanye talk.

899
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: About our love from the crib.

900
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: You know, absolutely absolutely.

901
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening now, but.

902
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: Nod at one point. Yeah, Well you take the next

903
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: one just based off the lyrical content.

904
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: Then all right.

905
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: Last one'st some words that I probably just year.

906
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: I got this one.

907
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: I got you, Yeah, I got you, And I rocked

908
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: my rag like it's eighty eight and niggas still rocking shaft.

909
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: So put the hundreds in the bag or I'm gonna

910
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: put the eagle to your helmet and the fiftie a

911
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: chest like Donovan mcnad, Was.

912
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 4: That a meet?

913
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: Was that me? No, that's that's the game.

914
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: Whoa that's from West Coast Honeyballs and Running. Oh okay, yeah, oh,

915
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: I'll definitely have to listen to that one. Yeah you can.

916
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: You can type that in that one, you can type.

917
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: I mean we have this one like a remix of

918
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: n W. It was on the hundred Bars and Running,

919
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: which was like original distang unit. I think it was

920
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: probably on the n W A B. Yeah, yeah, okay,

921
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean this this has his name in it. But

922
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: one of my favorite Beanie Seagull songs period. You know,

923
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: seagull play with them, eagles may put there, niggas, don't

924
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: get tagged, throw bullets out them dirty birds like mcnath

925
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: trying go back and forth. We get you a little

926
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: back and forth on that last.

927
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 3: My partner can't say that one. Don You can't say

928
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: that one. Yeah, yeah, Donovan, we appreciate you, man. Congratulations

929
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 3: with is twenty years on the cover of Madden Yes, sir,

930
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: we appreciate you. A legend and every sense of the word.

931
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: Thank you for everything you did for the game. Thank

932
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 3: you for the way you paid for the for black

933
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are playing today. We appreciate you a legend forever.

934
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: Thank you for taking time to cat good with us today.

935
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 4: Bro, I appreciate you guys having me. Man, we gotta

936
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: swag out that couch though, you know we got we got.

937
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: We gotta upgrade that couch.

938
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna were gonna listen, we were a deep

939
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: couch to here like this right, it's so right for

940
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: what we're doing right now. We ain't at the house.

941
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 3: We'll never had this type of couch of the house,

942
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: but it's great for what we're doing right now.

943
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Not all of us pay the same taxes in Arizona.

944
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: We don't get to keep our money like you were

945
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: in New York. Bro, they're killing us with these taxes.

946
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: This is the type of this the type of money

947
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: our taxes could a forward. Right. We appreciate you, Bro,

948
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Man.

949
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: Appreciate that no doubt.

950
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: Love