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Speaker 1: Revere, Revee, Donks.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This is Morning Combat Well Reveale, Revee, Donks. It is Monday,

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Speaker 1: May fourth, twenty twenty, and it is time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Hither everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. I am one

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Speaker 1: half of the hosting duo. On the other side of

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Speaker 1: the screen is my partner in crime, the peanut Butter

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Speaker 1: to my jelly, the Connecticut Strangler himself, the one and

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Speaker 1: only Brian Campbell from CBS Sports. Hi Brian, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Luke, fired up? Turned down your mind, relax

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Speaker 2: and float downstream.

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Speaker 3: It's MK ultra time, brainwashing fools with an acid trip

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Speaker 3: of combat cacophony since twenty nine. Put that on a

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Speaker 3: T shirt. Luke, I'm fired up because it's fight week.

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Speaker 3: Yes we're back, baby, trust me, we back.

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Speaker 2: But even more.

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Speaker 3: Importantly, Luke, if you could let me finish here, I

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Speaker 3: know you have producer credits. This was a dream weekend,

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Speaker 3: Luke of Weather, of Family of Outdoors. It was it

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Speaker 3: was the calm before the combat storm coming our way

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Speaker 3: the last free Saturday and Sunday, the weather was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I got the chainsaw, the axe, the mall, chopping with

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Speaker 3: even get on top of my wife tonight. Will That's sorry,

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Speaker 3: that was a Brucklesny reference. I was fired up, Luke,

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Speaker 3: and I think it was the perfect preparation, okay for

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Speaker 3: what we got this week.

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Speaker 1: Bro. Fair enough. It sounds like you are refreshed, replenished,

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Speaker 1: and ready to rock. I hope our viewers are as well.

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Speaker 3: We get into the news at hand, I did want

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Speaker 3: Don Shue, not Don shulas death, but rip he did

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Speaker 3: have a great run, Luke. I mentioned the weather this

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So we had it rained all day or most

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Speaker 1: That is awesome. Everybody, Luke Thomas here, it's the grim Reaper, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: see topic number one. If I may, this is a

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Speaker 1: at interim lightweight title shot between Justin Gatgee and Tony Ferguson.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with you, good sir, as you have rolled

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Speaker 2: This could really be one of those special ones. But

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Speaker 3: So many unknown questions, of course, Luke about how this

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Speaker 3: There's a wild card factor for sure that we just

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see great action, great violence. But

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Speaker 3: And Luke, when we have seen Gaygee go in there

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Tony look skills win fights, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think Tony deserves to get the NOD. Here.

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Speaker 1: to have to peak twice in short order, nevertheless, I

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Speaker 1: It'll give him a little bit more time to come

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Tony's already cut weight once in

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Speaker 2: No, no question about it. We don't want to discountact

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not really thinking about that. It's look,

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Speaker 3: I think the ability on the ground, and even though

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Speaker 3: Yet we always talk about his offense on his back,

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Speaker 2: Pull off submissions. I just think it becomes a bad

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Speaker 1: And then lastly, anything that Justin has on him, you

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Speaker 3: Well, there's always that factor that Hey, Tony Ferguson, we

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and again I think the power punching and

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this fight in detail, so let me

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Speaker 1: You've got no flyweight champion he used to be it.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is then you had Devison Figuredo who

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's responsible for anything negative but providing

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Speaker 3: us with plenty of cringe moments and let's hashtag never

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Speaker 2: Let's forget that never happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, he saved the Flyway division when he says

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can look at both those

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Speaker 1: that are starting to be heaped on him as a

432
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Speaker 1: great talented fighter, because I do think Crews will be

433
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: a challenge in one way or another worth keeping praise

434
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: on him if he gets past him. Just the same though,

435
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: I think blaming UFC they have a role to play,

436
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair in assessing how we got

437
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 1: to this point.

438
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: Well, it's UFC's fault, but that doesn't mean it's a

439
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: horrific move, right, It's a smart business decision. And again,

440
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: so Hudos lived up to every opportunity he's received. So

441
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 3: when you give a guy who's undeserving a chance to

442
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 3: be really enter that upper room of history by being

443
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: a two division champion, you're banking on him. It's worked

444
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: out for them, but it's still their fault as to

445
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: why there's been disarray and bottleneck within the division.

446
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, that being said real quickly, we

447
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't put this in the rundown. Do you

448
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: have a prediction for that one? You got to feel

449
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: in a certain type of way about the Comaine.

450
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: It's just hard not to favor the youth and the

451
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: unknown and give it to Suhudo here and believe me,

452
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 2: I'm Domina Cruz fan. I love his story. You know,

453
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: I rewatched the second Fabor fight and it's like, man,

454
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: you forget how big dom is for this division.

455
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: Maybe that's going to be something that plays a factor.

456
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: Maybe this is the perfect time for Don to slide

457
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 3: in and pull an upset when you know, we don't

458
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 3: even know if Suhudo has had the proper training camp

459
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Speaker 3: physically and mentally to get to this point given the unknowns.

460
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's thirty five. Can you go

461
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: back to the well one more time?

462
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 3: If he does, you know, he's the Bernard Hopkins sort

463
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Speaker 3: of mythical figure that we're going to look back on here.

464
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: But uh nah, it's Henry Stjudo's gonna do this, Luke,

465
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a decision my hunches.

466
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Speaker 1: Henry finds a way to get it done after early troubles.

467
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: He tends to figure people out as time goes on.

468
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Speaker 1: Both in the case of Demetrius, where there's years of

469
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: Parkersons first and second fight, and against Marla Miriash loses

470
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Speaker 1: a round, round and a half and then starts figure

471
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: him out there a little bit later, he takes time

472
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Speaker 1: to get going against someone like Cruz. I suspect that

473
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: will absolutely be the cases. You begin to make reads

474
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Speaker 1: on what he's trying to do. The other part here

475
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: is about I have no no one's in my ear.

476
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Speaker 1: I've not spoken to Cruz and no one in his

477
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: team nothing. I want to hear ja the all times. Yeah,

478
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: but what about what about the idea that, like, if

479
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Speaker 1: Cruz loses, does he call it a day right, because

480
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Speaker 1: if he wins, there's still at least one more big

481
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Speaker 1: payday left. If he loses at thirty five, I guess

482
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: he could go up to featherweight when he really want

483
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, the training has been hell

484
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: on his body, hell on his feet. He had to

485
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: get botox injections into his the bottom of his feet

486
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: just to numb the pain. He's had a planter for sitis,

487
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: acl tears, the whole nine yards. He's already got a

488
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: great gig as a commentator and other things he's doing

489
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Speaker 1: for the UFC. I don't know. I'm not saying he willcly.

490
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he will retire, but I'm saying if

491
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: he loses, and loses convincingly, I would not be necessarily

492
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: surprised if that's something we see in short order afterwards.

493
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Speaker 2: There's different kinds of convincing losses, though.

494
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 3: There's the devastating kind of if it's a stoppage and

495
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: he's just not you know, competitive on that level, of course.

496
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: But there's a wide open opportunity for Dom Cruse to

497
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: extend his career by getting a moral victory on Saturday Night,

498
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: by losing but really putting on a fight and showing

499
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Speaker 3: you that he still has it.

500
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Speaker 2: I think his pride would bring him back, Luke. I mean,

501
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: if you worked that hard to get back, I don't

502
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: think you're just gonna walk away.

503
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: His pride would bring him back, his smarts. You know,

504
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: he's already thought about an exit, which is meant to

505
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: say again Saturday is that exit with even with a loss?

506
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: But of the fighters in the UFC who have considered

507
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: an exit plan, you would probably put dominant Cruz at

508
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: the top of that list. He's not sitting there just

509
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: going through his career without thinking about what are the

510
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: conditions upon which I'm going to continue this and not

511
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: And if I make an exit, what's it supposed to

512
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: look like? Good and bad scenarios? He's thought through it all. Plus,

513
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: he's probably doing this because he's ultra competitive and he

514
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: would like to see if he can prove it to himself.

515
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: But I bet if he couldn't even fight ever again,

516
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: he'd be very comfortable with the athletic achievements he's already

517
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: stacked together. Fair all right, they got no sold do

518
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: the old LT no soul? All right?

519
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it's interesting. Good analysis. Look, I tend

520
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: to agree.

521
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: There we go. Very good. Let's go to the third

522
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: topic of the day. This is an interesting one that

523
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot of discussion about, but

524
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: it's got me thinking busy. I would love for you

525
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: to go first on this one. Okay, we have a

526
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Speaker 1: feature fight on the card. It's a heavyweight fight. It's

527
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: Francis angan who taken on JayR Zenio Rosenstruck or how

528
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: are you pronounce his last name. Looks to be a

529
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: great fight. Can't wait to see it. It's gonna be amazing.

530
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's not for an interim title.

531
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of folks say, oh, who

532
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: would want to see an interim title when we don't

533
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: need one? Well, are you sure we don't need one?

534
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Because here's what Steve A. Miochich is saying. I know

535
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: you spoke to him. He's saying he's not fight until

536
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: the pandemic is over. But when is that going to

537
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: be I mean, what does it mean to be over.

538
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: It's going to be here until there's a vaccine and

539
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: guy or a treatment, and those do not appear to

540
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: be on the horizon. He's got this responsibility as a

541
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: you know, a first responder, so that's a little bit weird.

542
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: I know. He also didn't have much interest when he

543
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: talked to you about a DC trilogy versus the winner

544
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: of this upcoming fight, and DC is saying he's not

545
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: fighting anybody not name Steve Bmochic, but his clock is

546
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: ticking two. So you get to a real scenario here

547
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: where you're like, well, wait a second, those two may

548
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: not fight for a while. Why not just make this

549
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: an interim title fight because the winner should get a

550
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: title shot anyway, and it gives the winner a chance

551
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: to get more money when they get to the ultimate

552
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: title shot after that fight. BC. Good idea, bad idea.

553
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Bad idea. Enough of this interim title crap.

554
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: This fight and the main event on Saturday should not

555
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 3: be for an interim title when you have a healthy champion.

556
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: It is to give some sort of a reward for

557
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: Tony Ferguson fighting on and quote unquote saving the card, even.

558
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Though this not really happening. But I guess the interim

559
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: situation is.

560
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously UFC has completely devalued the idea of

561
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: what an interim title is supposed to be. When there's

562
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: a gap in the champion's reign due to injury or

563
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: what have you, but not enough of a gap to

564
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: strip him. I've argued that I don't like the title

565
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: because what an interim title has become is a number

566
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: one contender opportunity, a guarantee. Now they'll strip that guarantee

567
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: whenever they want, as Tony Ferguson found out. So i'd

568
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: almost whether it be like a green jacket or some

569
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: other symbol that you're not down in history. Carlos Content

570
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: great guy, never my welterweight champion. I know he held

571
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: an interim bell right, Shane Carwin heavyweight, same thing. I

572
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 3: would rather they just sort of say number one contender

573
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: about this guy's got next. I don't need an interim title.

574
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: I don't need not Francis or Jaiyir to hold up

575
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: that belt because it would be meaningless. But what you're

576
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: saying is sort of guaranteeing them the next shot, you know,

577
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 3: regardless of DC. Yeah, that's what this fight will probably do.

578
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: Anyway. This is a number one contenders fight.

579
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: And you talk about me no selling your analysis, Steepe's

580
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: no selling everything, and like the nicest way possible, because

581
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: first of all, shout out to all the frontline workers

582
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: in healthcare and beyond, and Stepe's one of those as

583
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: a paramedic and firefighter, and he's raising money through Modello

584
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: for first responders and all that. Great guy, but he's

585
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: basically like, I don't even care about this fight on

586
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: Saturday night because neither one of these are a threat

587
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: to my title. And like you mentioned, he also told me,

588
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: you know, I got no emotional connection to DC. If

589
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: the fight happens, it happens whatever, I'm still gonna be

590
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: champion at the end of the day. If UFC calls me,

591
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: I'll say yes, whoever they got. So he's basically like,

592
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, I will fight again this year, but I'm

593
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: not rushing it. He agrees with Amanda Nunas stance on

594
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: sort of, you know, making sure the training camp is

595
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 3: proper before running back out there. This is a great fight,

596
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: though Saturday they're gonna bang. It's almost like this is

597
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: in Gano two point zero against the Anganu who fought

598
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: against Stepe, who is Jay Rosenstrok, who is so raw,

599
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: build himself out with a win last time against over

600
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: him just from being a savage. You love the idea

601
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: of them too, just coming together, We're going to see

602
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: exactly where in Ghanu is and we're gonna find out

603
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: whether Diair can make an even bigger leap than he

604
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: did last time.

605
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: But let's not put anything more on it. Have either

606
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: of these guys deserved to hold up an interim title

607
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: under any universe? Luke No, So stop that crap right now.

608
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand the fans. I used to understand the

609
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: fans revulsion to interim titles. I'm a little bit and

610
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: media too. I shouldn't even say that. I'm a lot

611
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: less sympathetic to I am to it now. Now here's

612
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: what I'll say. The main event should absolutely have an

613
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: interim title. The reason why is because do I think

614
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: that the winner will ultimately get a title shot following

615
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: the victory that comes on Saturday. Maybe? But Dana White

616
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: is now saying, well, Tony Kabeb is the one that

617
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: got away, and I would really love to see that

618
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: Connor rematch it. To me, that's just Endeavor talking right.

619
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Endeavor is losing a third of their workforce and they're

620
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: going to be reducing salaries for huge amounts of other ones,

621
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: and they're closing offices. They're in deep deep s and

622
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: so to me that rings of we got to make

623
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: fights that sell a ton of pay per views because

624
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: we have to generate a lot of revenue. Yes, people

625
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: would want to see it, we would talk about it.

626
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: That's fine, but that would not be the most deserving

627
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: fight Extra number command of It should be the winner

628
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: of this one.

629
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Now.

630
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see what happens. Maybe they end up

631
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: making that fight. Anyway, my only point being is the

632
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: winner gets more money when they head into that fight.

633
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: To me, that's not an inconsequential thing. I wish that

634
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: didn't have to be a function of having interim title.

635
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I wish they'd just got more money, but that's not

636
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: the world that we live in. The world we live

637
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: in is that they need some other kind of token

638
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: to get the kind of money that they would ultimately

639
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: be deserve. Token looke because when you're okay, but that

640
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: token says it BC, you can say change the token.

641
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: They're not going to it's not going to happen. The

642
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: only way to get that to happen between now and

643
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: whatever that fight is is to put a belt around

644
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: their waist. And to me, if that's what it does,

645
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: if it gets just engage you more money. If it

646
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: gets Tony Ferguson more money, I'm not against it at all.

647
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: And if it guarantees them a title shot, well okay,

648
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: that's even better. As for this one, here's what I'll say.

649
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: The the case for an interim title on this fight

650
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: is not nearly as strong because there's still a lot

651
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: of room to play with. Right. DC still wants to

652
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: fight step A Stepe still ostensibly will probably do it.

653
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: We don't know when, but it's only May. We're in

654
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: the fifth month of the year, by the way, only

655
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: the fourth day of the fifth month. There's still a

656
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: lot of time to figure that part out. But I'll

657
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: say this. I'll say this Brian Campbell. If we're heading

658
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: into September and we don't have anything booked, whatever the

659
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: fight is after that, if the winner and gone who

660
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: versus Rosenstruck has to take another one, that one should

661
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: be for an interim title fight. Why because it gets

662
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: the more money in the end, and I think it

663
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: puts pressure on other players to make it happen. This

664
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: idea that it devalues the title. The sanctioning bodies don't

665
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: own it. UFC has UFC has said the last thing,

666
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: last thing UFC has said in court. It doesn't even

667
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: confer any status. It's just something they give to a

668
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: fighter at the end of night then when they feel

669
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: like it. If that's the case, then who cares. We're

670
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: wringing our hands over nothing.

671
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: Pay that man his money now money Bee's not buying

672
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: it quick denying it, You better off trying it. Freak

673
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: me girl, Luke. Here's the deal on that. When you

674
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: get an engagement ring, it's separate from getting married.

675
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: I know there's some weirdos out there who throw a

676
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: giant engagement party and they get gifts from people, and

677
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: they basically.

678
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Stealing from their friends and loved ones.

679
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: An engagement ring is a step toward the ultimate goal, right,

680
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: same thing with this interim belt that doesn't look like

681
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: the wedding band.

682
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: It's different the interim belt.

683
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: They're devalued the idea of their own titles by allowing

684
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: people to hold up into belts who don't deserve it.

685
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: Change the token or get rid of it. They can

686
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 3: still get paid behind the scenes, Luke, or still get

687
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: a guarantee on a contract behind the scenes that don't

688
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: affect the idea of people standing in front of a

689
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: camera holding up a belt that isn't real. Why do

690
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: I care about that? Because I come from boxing where

691
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: they have devalued the shit out of belts that every

692
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: single time there's a fight on, even if it's the

693
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: curtain Jerker, there's the ANABF Regional South America's title on

694
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: the line. Okay, stop that UFCU, stop that crap, all right, Luke,

695
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: they're better at the Impersonally, you should be better than that,

696
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: considering how hard you stand against other things in life

697
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: for you to have passionately be like, he gets a belt,

698
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: we all get belts, you know what, Luke?

699
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: Back off?

700
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean you mean boxing, where they also get

701
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: for the A list fighters significantly more money than their

702
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: MMA counterparts. G How am I gonna sleep through the night.

703
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: First of all, there aren't multiple sanctioning bodies. There's no

704
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: sanctioning bodies providing any titles. It's just UFC and they

705
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: the UFC has literally said in court they don't mean anything.

706
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: We're just conferring upon it some kind of status. And

707
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: again I would say Israel Atasigna is the best middleweight.

708
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: He is the guy to beat. You can go down

709
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: the weight classes kamar Usman could be membergam made all.

710
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: That's fine. If it's an informal marker of who the

711
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: best guy is, no problem. But dude, we are operating

712
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: in a sport where the fighters are chronically underpaid, which

713
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: I know you would agree with, and I think simply

714
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: just saying out loud fix that behind the scenes. There's

715
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: no mechanism to do that.

716
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: It does not exist.

717
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: They don't have any lebridge gonna do it.

718
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Then I have belts at all.

719
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: A belt is a designation, it's a it's a place

720
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: in time, it says that person was the best of

721
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: the best at that moment. You're a completely court idea,

722
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: which is the reason why it's not just prize fighting.

723
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: If if it was just prize fighting, there wouldn't be belts.

724
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: But there is. There's there's legacies, there's all that.

725
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: You're just devaluing it by by throwing in a crap

726
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: title to give a guy a next place in line.

727
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

728
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: Let's say if rosenstruk knocks out in Ghanu, right, power

729
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: to him. He's not deserving of a to hold up

730
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: a belt. Get out of here, Luke.

731
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is deserving of more money and there's no

732
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: other mechanism to get him any So were you sign

733
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: the chef, you would sign the chef. That's there's no,

734
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a yes. Give him a unicorn to ride

735
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: into the octagon next time. These things don't exist. Would

736
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: you would rather say?

737
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: Is?

738
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: I would rather Rosenstruck make orders of magnitude less money

739
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: so I can hold onto an idea that the UFC hisself,

740
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: the UFC itself has already said in court under deposition,

741
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: does not exist. So that's us exact. Stay, that's not me.

742
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Well, look, let me ask you this.

743
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: When you got engaged, did you rent out a church

744
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: in a hall and have a giant, you know, celebration

745
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: and put on a tuxedo.

746
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: No, it was a step in the process. So stop spoiled. Like,

747
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: there's gotta be some things that still matter in this.

748
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: Game, right, right, Well, then there should be some kind

749
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: of plan a if look, listen, if there was a

750
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: legitimate way to get fighters the A list fighters we're

751
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: talking about here, right, which I would agree and gone,

752
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: who is if not a list A minus right, because

753
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: he's certainly right up there, you know, to get fighters

754
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: like that the money they deserve. Fine, But if it's

755
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: not going to happen to me. It's it's kind of

756
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: shitty to say, well, they shouldn't get extra money, yet

757
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: they should. It's a it's an awful way to get there.

758
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna let imperfect be the enemy here.

759
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know what, it's fine by me

760
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: because these guys put their lives on the line. They're

761
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: out here flying on airplanes filled to the brim, probably

762
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: with remnants of the COVID nineteen virus. And we're gonna

763
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: say you shouldn't get more money next time. Fuck, yeah,

764
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: you should get more money next time.

765
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: That's not the debate. That's not you just signed a check.

766
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: That's how you give money. Okay, all right, now you're

767
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: pissing off Jay. Now you're really making things happen, am

768
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: I not?

769
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: In my ear? I didn't hear them. All right, Well

770
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: that in mind, we can do that debate for another time.

771
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Put for BC. All right, let's get to this. Go

772
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: to you on this one first stephen a claim and

773
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: credit figuring it out. He was the one who called

774
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: it right about Donald so roney and you used two

775
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: forty six and Connor McGregor, all right, let's start there.

776
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: First of all, your reactions to stephen A saying he

777
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: was right all along? Was HEBC?

778
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a you know, it's a

779
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: victory lap for sas, but it's not really the underlying

780
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: spirit of what people were upset at after Connor destroyed Cowboy.

781
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: The essence of what stephen A was saying was that

782
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: Cowboy quit.

783
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: That he and when you say that, and when you

784
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: say that from the standpoint of him as general sports

785
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: loudmouth of the little look, I certainly respect stephen A

786
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: Smith and in the streets and avenues in which he

787
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: is at his strength, but he was an outsider looking

788
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: in matter of factly being given a platform that wasn't

789
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 3: in Sports Center on a desk. It was standing next

790
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: to the octagon with a microphone, which is an extra

791
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: double down stamp. And he's basically like, Cowboy quit. So

792
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: when that's your essence, it teases too close to the

793
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 3: idea that that fight was improper, that there was some

794
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: form of you know, negative, you know, something negative on

795
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 3: the underculture, that maybe Cowboy didn't try his best. It's

796
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: different than saying I just watched that fight and that

797
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: wasn't the best of Cowboy. I think he was in

798
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: his own head. That's what Stephen A is now basically

799
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 3: trying to claim was his intention when all MMA fans

800
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: that were uprising watched that and said, wait, you don't

801
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: know enough about this sport to make a claim that

802
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 3: Cowboy didn't show up and he quit.

803
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit revisionist history.

804
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing about this, and I've said,

805
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: I put it a whole video about it. You can

806
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: people judge for themselves. It's a symmetry of language, saying

807
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: didn't show up without any symmetry and meaning. It's like, dude,

808
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: did y'all actually listen to what he said? People like, oh,

809
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: steven A didn't say quit? Right, here's what he said exactly.

810
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: He said, looks like he gave up, which is the

811
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: exact same thing of saying quitting. That's what he actually

812
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: said on TV. He literally said that. That's a fact.

813
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: So if you listen to what Cowboy says, Cowboy said

814
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: he was in a fog and he couldn't quite get

815
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: right and it wasn't all there. But if you listen

816
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: to him, go through the play by play of him

817
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: being hit with that ELBOWBC in the shoulder strikes. He's

818
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: actively telling you he's trying to fight back. He couldn't

819
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: summon the will in the end, or at least the

820
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: ability rather, but he was fighting that off and he

821
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: was struggling with it. But he did not go in

822
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: there and just lay down. For Connor, he didn't put

823
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: up much of a fight. You could say it was

824
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: a bad performance, no doubt about that. But to me,

825
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: it's like when you use these sports talk radio and

826
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm in sports talk radio phrases like didn't show up

827
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: and wasn't a winner capitol w you're not saying a

828
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: whole lot unless you actually really drilled down into the specifics.

829
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: When you drive down to the specifics here, it's it's

830
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: the surface level being correct with none of the substances.

831
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: They get the same thing.

832
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: It's the same equivalent as Mayweather pak yeah, which we

833
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: just had the five year anniversary and non boxing fans

834
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: who paid the one hundred dollars and we're like, all right,

835
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: I want to see this great brawl and they got

836
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: a technical fight instead.

837
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: You know, there was that knee jerk of like, oh

838
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: that fight was fixed.

839
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Man.

840
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: Those two guys didn't try. That's the same thing basically

841
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: what it sounded like out of steven A's mouth. So no, don't, don't,

842
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: no victory laps now, Steve and I all right, please stop.

843
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: Now that brings us to a separate question about the

844
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: fight itself. Now, this one is not on the main

845
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: card BC, I believe this is the main event of

846
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: the ESPN prelim portion, so they I think this fe

847
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: roughly around nine thirty pm East Coast time, which is

848
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: who needs a win more? Right? And this is one

849
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: where you could go really in either direction. I think

850
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: you spoke to both of these guys last week, right,

851
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: So having had that conversation at least in some part

852
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: with either of them, BC got you got Petis, who

853
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: needs that w a little bit more than the other one.

854
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: I did talk to Pettis, who basically was like, you know,

855
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: I took this fight on a couple weeks notice because

856
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: he felt so bad about the egg he laid on

857
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: the undercar of Cowboy Connor and taking his second straight loss.

858
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: It's very interesting now obviously cowboys a little bit older.

859
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: Luke Cowmany he lost as his cowboy up to in

860
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: a row right now is at four I have to

861
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: double check. But yeah, you know, certainly Pettus is coming

862
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: off a three straight degree.

863
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: He's got three in a row.

864
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: It's almost even in a way. But obviously Pettis has

865
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 3: a larger potential upside. He's thirty three. In some ways,

866
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: he is what he is. He's a celebrity action fighter

867
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: who can win any fight at any time because that ability.

868
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Is in him.

869
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: But he was has been forever unable to recapture the

870
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: spirit and the focus of what he once had.

871
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Now he's saying the right things.

872
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: This is Pettus saying, Look, this is the first camp

873
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: I've had one on one instruction because of the quarantine

874
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: where it's been all about me.

875
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: This is how I'm going to do all my camps

876
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: moving forward.

877
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: He also told me this is the first time i'

878
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm actually listening to my coach's strategic breakdown. Now I

879
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: understand why they do that, which is like, now you're

880
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: realizing this. Look, he's a great athlete. He's a responsive,

881
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: explosive type fighter. Yeah, he probably needs the win a

882
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: little bit more. Cowboy had his last cup of tea

883
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: at the elite level. He absolutely laid it an against Connor.

884
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: He's now admitting it and showing you. He basically says,

885
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: moving forward, I just want to have fun. I want

886
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: to be in fun fights. I do think that no

887
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: one is really giving this fight the love that it deserves.

888
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: This is an all star game fight. These are two

889
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: aging names, championship level guys who do nothing but put

890
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: on great fights.

891
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: They both really need a win.

892
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna argue Pettis needs to win a little

893
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: bit more to sort of stay relevant. But this has

894
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: an opportunity shortcamp or not to be you know, not

895
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: only does sell a lot of pay per views if

896
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: this is the last fight for ESPN heading in, but

897
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: just to straight up entertain us and Luke, I don't

898
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: think we're doing enough in all this COVID debate to

899
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: just sit down on the idea that fights are back.

900
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: You know, I'm excited about that. I'm fired up. It's

901
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: gonna be normalcy again, right or wrong, Grim Reaper on

902
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: the Beach or not. And this fight is really like

903
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: should be on the poster of that because it's just

904
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: gonna be about fun and games and violence. I like

905
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: Pettis to win this. I think Cowboy He's gonna linger

906
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: as long as they'll let him right. I think he'll

907
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: be better than the Connor fight for sure, But Pettis

908
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: is the younger one.

909
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: He needs to win a little bit more. But I

910
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: love this fight. I love what it stands for.

911
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: It's a great fight in a lot of different ways.

912
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: And going back to stephen A very quickly, one of

913
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: the point here it is relevant even today, which is

914
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, in that three hundred not even sixty five

915
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: day period, three and sixty four day period Saroni had

916
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: fought Hernandez, he had fought Ayah Quinta, then Ferguson, then

917
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: gae Chee and then Connor. I mean, it's just impossible

918
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: to beat those guys, especially on the frequency that he

919
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: was trying, especially after two TKO losses in a row.

920
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: He hasn't taken a ton of time off for this one,

921
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: although some but I'll say this PC, I'm gonna agree

922
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: with you. I'm gonna say it's Pettis, but I'm gonna

923
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: say it for slightly different reasons. Neither guy can capture

924
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: their upper bound, you know, limit what we know them

925
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: to be at their best. I think those days are

926
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: probably passed. Certainly for Seroni. He can still beat very

927
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: good guys. Certainly for pettis the same kind of thing,

928
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: but they can't get back to where they were when

929
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: they were twenty eight twenty nine. I don't think that's

930
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: in the cards. So the question is trying to finding

931
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: out exactly what they have left. Pets to me is

932
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: up against it a little bit more. And the reason

933
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: why is one cardlos Diko Fajeda, the guy who beat

934
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: him last time, is a dark horse in that division.

935
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: He's trained to fort a CMMA by Saif Sowd. He's

936
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: a very very good fighter that's really underrated, but he's

937
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: not the name value from a Connor or an Ayaquinsa

938
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: or a Ferguson is not there, and so the loss

939
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: is a little bit less forgiving, even if I can

940
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: recognize he's a very very talented fighter. But the bigger

941
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: issue to me, BC is this is a rematch. This

942
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: is a rematch. If you're a petas and you won frankly,

943
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: relatively easy the first time. I'm not gonna say easy,

944
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: but you know, relatively speaking, if you go in and

945
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: lose the second time, that would mark decline without any

946
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt. And I know there's already been

947
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: some dude's been in a lot of wars. People don't

948
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: give Anthony Pettis enough credit for fighting the very best

949
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: of his generation over and over and over and over again.

950
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: But that takes a toll on you. So to me,

951
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: if you kind of beat a guy again relatively speaking, easily,

952
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: and then years past and you try and do it

953
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: again and you can't get the job done, especially coming

954
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: off of a lossuit to a guy that a lot

955
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: of people don't know, it just signifies a certain decline

956
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: where you know, we've seen guys like Seronni loose three

957
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: in a row before this one and then kind of

958
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: rebound to get to the point where they are, you know,

959
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: back taking big fights against bigger fighters like that Pettus,

960
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: This would be to me a little bit different if

961
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: you couldn't quite get back on the horse.

962
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair, I'm selling, I'm selling all the way, all.

963
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: Right, Sell it BC, Sell it all right. With that

964
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: in mind, we go to our fifth and final point

965
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: here to what extent is UFC two forty nine BC

966
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: the canary in the coal mine, which is to say,

967
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: the following let's say it goes off without a hitch.

968
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: Everybody comes in everyone gets tested. Everyone tests negative. It does,

969
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, reasonably well on pay per view. The press

970
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: doesn't complain, the fighters don't complain, The fans love what

971
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: they got. Certainly, we've talked about what a great card

972
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: it is. To what extent BC on the boxing and

973
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: MMA side, will that show you and get the gears

974
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: in motion for the rest of the combat sports world

975
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: to come back.

976
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: Uh, this is going to.

977
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: Open the floodgates that they have success. And I don't

978
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: mean necessarily Monday morning. The fact that they have three

979
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: cards in eight days in a short period might ultimately

980
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: be the testing ground. But I feel like everyone in

981
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: combat sports and beyond is going to be watching on

982
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: Saturday very closely, very patiently. You know, I talked to

983
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: Oscar de la Hoya a couple of days ago from

984
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Golden Boy Promotions, and even he is praising Dana White, saying, yeah,

985
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: you know, we've had our differences in the past, but

986
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: I respect him standing up for his own sport. Look,

987
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: everybody wants to come back, whether you're whether you're a

988
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas level critic of Dano or a Bob Ahram

989
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 3: or anything, but they want to not be the first

990
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: and make the giant mistake. I think UFC, which will

991
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: now we find out through Marker Monday's reporting at ESPN

992
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: today they are doing COVID testing.

993
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: Things are on the up and up.

994
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: They're paying a ton to get this done the right way.

995
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: If they pull this off, you're going to see more

996
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: states like like like dominoes just fall one after another

997
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: and open up the doors to pro sports again.

998
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: You're already hearing the rumblings in the whispering. Get the

999
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins.

1000
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: Luke just put out a plan on how they're going

1001
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: to fill their stadiums, not to capacity, but sort of

1002
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: in fractions to be able to you know, have fans

1003
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: for the kickoff of the NFL season this fall. It

1004
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: all goes back, of course to our big bet between

1005
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: us that you know, February first, twenty twenty one. I mean,

1006
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: we're going to be back packing arenas all over the place.

1007
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: But yes, if this is a success this week, everyone

1008
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: will follow and in the end, and this is why

1009
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: Luke over a month ago, when we were in the

1010
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: middle of the Dana White's Crazy debate, and by the way,

1011
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: he deserved criticism for saying COVID come get me, there

1012
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: was a Robinhood element. If he pulled this off, we're

1013
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: going to look back and say thank you for being

1014
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: that crazy, basically, thank you for being that bold.

1015
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: So this is his opportunity to do that.

1016
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Luke, I mean, I think it's a mixed back. I

1017
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: think it's a mixed back, right, which is to say

1018
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: the following if in fact, they do pull it off

1019
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: without a hitch. And by the way, folks have noted

1020
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, there's actually more hospital space now. Now

1021
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: that's intentional. Hospitals are purposely not taking up, for example,

1022
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: elective surgeries or things they had scheduled to make room

1023
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: for the COVID surge. But Florida, it turns out, even

1024
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: though the governor did not really go heavy into stay

1025
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: at home orders and quarantining local ordinances did, businesses did,

1026
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: and people by themselves did. It was a great Wall

1027
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: Street General report showing that basically people took it upon themselves,

1028
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: and that's why Florida, outside of a few counties, has

1029
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: not had this surge that people had worried about. So

1030
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: now the hospital capacity is taken care of. We talked

1031
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: about the fact that now we got the state regulating

1032
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: before when we didn't. If they pull it off and

1033
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: they've got the COVID testing, although we don't know are

1034
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: they COVID testing everyone beforehand? And by the way, if

1035
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: you fly home, do you get a COVID test to

1036
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: take when you get home. There's a lot of unanswered questions.

1037
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of lack of transparency around this BC

1038
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: about the terms of the plan that I think would

1039
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: help a lot of other folks in the combat sports space.

1040
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: But I do think you're right, at least in terms

1041
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: of combat sports audience free, so you're Bellator's, maybe your

1042
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: top ranks, things like that, they're going to take a

1043
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: look at this and say, mmm, is this a plan

1044
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: that we can follow. I suspect that it will be.

1045
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: It will definitely spur them to action. I also think

1046
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: that I was reading Nate Silver yesterday from five point

1047
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: thirty eight. He was pointing out they did a survey

1048
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: I think galloped at a survey early in March and

1049
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: had said, when do you expect all of this to

1050
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: be restrictions to begin eatting eased? And the answer is

1051
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: right about now. For the majority of Americans, they kind

1052
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: of expected it. Now a lot that it's unrealistic here's

1053
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: what I think BC. Some states are going to open

1054
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: and it's going to be careful and slow and there's

1055
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: not going to be an issue. Other states are going

1056
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: to do it, and there's gonna be major backlash, not

1057
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: merely with the public support, but also with the disease

1058
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: and how it's gonna affect other people. There's gonna be

1059
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows in this PC. That's what I think

1060
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: folks need to accept. It's not gonna be a uniform

1061
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: across the country. For every New York there's gonna be

1062
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: someplace like Alaska that has virtually no issue. My only

1063
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: point being is for the tightly controlled scenarios. Miami Dolphins

1064
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: are completely out of their mind. That's not happening anytime soon.

1065
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: But you're Bellator, You're Bob Arams, your who knows your

1066
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: Salida promotions, I don't know whatever. The ones who can

1067
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: do it in a studio, the ones who don't need

1068
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: a crowd, the ones who can sort of control every

1069
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: piece of the chain of custody. They're gonna get cooking

1070
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: after this.

1071
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: The rest approach their minds. When it's a stadium, it's outdoors.

1072
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: If everyone see they center the seating.

1073
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: BC they have to get in line to get into

1074
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: the stadium, they have to get in line to go

1075
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, they have to get in line for

1076
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: any concessions. If anyone breaks protocol there and it spreads

1077
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: and they get held liable for it, they're gonna get

1078
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: sued until they're penniless. That's how it's a role.

1079
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: It's well, then, why our grocery stores open? Won't they

1080
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: get sued too? Luke?

1081
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's have this discussion why our grocery

1082
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: stores open? Because there are things that society needs in

1083
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: order to fight. I can't believe we have to have

1084
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: this debate, but let's have it. There are things that

1085
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: society needs to have in order to function. If you

1086
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: close banks and people can't get their money out, it's

1087
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: going to be lord of the flies. If they can't

1088
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: get gas for their vehicle, particularly for people who have

1089
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: essential jobs, it's going to be lord of the flies.

1090
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: For pharmacies, if they can't get their medicine, or for foods.

1091
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: The reason that grocery stores are open is not because

1092
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: the government goes, Wow, let's find a place where people

1093
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: are really good at social distancing. By definition, if you

1094
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: are in cramped aisles. You are not the reason that

1095
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: it is open, although you can put some protocols in there,

1096
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: is because it's essential for society to function. This is

1097
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: what Graham Boylan said from Cage Wars He's like, well,

1098
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: the tube is running in London, why can't we have

1099
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: a show? Graham is because the tube is essential for

1100
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: London to function. Cage fights are not. That's the difference.

1101
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: It's just so society can keep the gears moving a

1102
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: little but without come coming to a complete and total hope.

1103
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: Not because it's a beacon of how to do social distancing.

1104
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: Really well, that's why.

1105
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there may not be a Cage Warriors a

1106
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: year from now or any other equivalent if they're not

1107
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: allowed to get back to this.

1108
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, we're gonna have ebbs and flows. I believe

1109
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: in that.

1110
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: I just believe that you're gonna see Full of a

1111
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Renos in February, Luke, You're gonna see.

1112
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: As soon as this card works out.

1113
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: If it does, commissions like Texas and Nevada, which have

1114
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: been known in the past for having up and down moments,

1115
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: suddenly go okay, yeah we're back in this.

1116
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: We want we want money too. We want to do

1117
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 2: this and not gonna be overnight. But uh, people, look, Luke,

1118
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: you're a little bit misunderstood because you do care about people.

1119
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: You're not anti fund. This is in the NFL no

1120
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: fund league.

1121
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to see people not die, but but

1122
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: have a little hope, right, try a little tenderness.

1123
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: What's so funny about peace, love and understanding?

1124
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Luke, it's not you. You're allowed to have hope when

1125
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: you have reason for hope, like you have to have

1126
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: a plan. You know why it deserves credit for this one.

1127
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: This is why this one is. This is not April eighteenth.

1128
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: We're in agreement in the air. This is not April

1129
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: eighteenth all over again. What was rushed and ill considered

1130
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: and outside of the boundaries of the state. This is very,

1131
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: very different to me for any number of reasons, and

1132
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: I think that needs to be said out loud. I

1133
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: do not feel nearly as uneasy about this one. I

1134
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: think there's still some risks, but they seem fairly well

1135
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: taken care of for the most part. I think, right,

1136
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: so it's gonna happen. I'm not nearly as concerned. I

1137
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: think the show should be allowed to happen. The government's

1138
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna sanction it. But when people talk about like hope

1139
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, like do you have to understand

1140
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: the challenges of what you are up against and then

1141
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: you have to build a plan in accordance with that.

1142
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: When Dana White says we're not going to have a

1143
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: gate for a long time, that's what he should be saying.

1144
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: He's right, he's not planning to stop BC, but he

1145
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: is planned to recognize this idea. You might see twenty

1146
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: thousand people in the stadium. You know where you're gonna

1147
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: see it, type AI. You know where you're gonna see it, soul.

1148
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna see it in the most of status

1149
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: on need. It's not unless somebody wants to make it

1150
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: dramatic mistake.

1151
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: Huh. Maybe that's where you'll see it. I just hope

1152
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: you come February first, when we are filling combat arenas

1153
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: of twenty thousand again, that you'll sit next to me

1154
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: for whatever big fight will be at.

1155
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: Please, I will sit there. I will sit in your

1156
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: lap if you if it makes you happy. How about that.

1157
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to.

1158
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 3: Wear the John Morgan blue shirt. Maybe maybe channel his haircut.

1159
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna love I'm gonna have a lot of options

1160
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: at how I get my get back here? All right,

1161
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: Well that in mind, it's time now where we take

1162
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: your questions for the show.

1163
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: It's time for DMS with dons or from Donks I

1164
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: never know what it's called anymore or ever really from Donks,

1165
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: there we go. Get the proposition wrong? Okay, here we

1166
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: go BC. This is from nat Raj eighteen oh three.

1167
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: If Cruz wins the title next weekend, does his legacy

1168
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: become bigger than DJs as the greatest lighterer weight fighter

1169
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: of all time lighter weight class fighter. Uh?

1170
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: To some it will, it shouldn't.

1171
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: But the emotional element of coming back after so much

1172
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: and overcoming is like, you know, this is like apple

1173
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: pie to American sports fans, we live for this, We

1174
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: eat this up. And he's a great guy too, and

1175
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 3: he's worked so hard and all the bad luck. Yes,

1176
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, maybe even to most people,

1177
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: this will be more celebrated, more loved. It just seems

1178
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: like Demetris Johnson inevitably will be that fine wine that

1179
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: like fifteen years from now, the hard hardcores will be like,

1180
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: what do you guys crazy that guy was really the

1181
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: best ever.

1182
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: And you know rightfully so when people do that.

1183
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: But yes, this has an emotional element to it that

1184
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: DJ's run lacked completely, whether it was his fault or not.

1185
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean thirty one or so. Here's the problem

1186
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: with that. Garbin loss like he was the champion. He

1187
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: was thirty one years of age and he just lost cleanly,

1188
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he just lost.

1189
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: He was hurt, Luke, he was hurt. Let's be honest,

1190
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: he was. But he's been hurt.

1191
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: He's been hurt in large part for long portions of

1192
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: his career. I understand that at times he's persevered. At

1193
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: times he hasn't. And I get I go to it.

1194
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: He was not one hundred percent. I get it. But

1195
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 1: he's also won when he wasn't one hundred percent before

1196
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: as well. And so to me, it's like if you

1197
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: lose that one, you know, he hasn't come back in

1198
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: a long time, which is not as fault either. It's

1199
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: a lot of complicating factors. I don't know. I don't

1200
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: know how you don't reward DJ for this, the consistency

1201
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: over time. So I would say if and I mean THISBC,

1202
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: if Cruz comes back and wins. I fully mean this,

1203
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: that is one of the greatest comeback stories in sports.

1204
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: It already was on the short list for that for

1205
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: before all this. You do that again and you come

1206
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: back and you beat Henry Shudo. Wow, man, that you're

1207
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: talking about an all time level of mental persistence and

1208
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: grit that is impossible to describe in the English language.

1209
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not kidding.

1210
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: You want to feel good in the morning, put on

1211
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: a dominant cruise interview Like, I'm serious. It's like one

1212
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: of those long form ones where he talks about the struggle.

1213
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: The guy is so insanely positive. In fact, he should

1214
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: probably be the one who leads us back into filling arenas.

1215
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: Look the positivity in the in I mean, this guy's

1216
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: the best.

1217
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: All right. Takes us to our next question from Kyle

1218
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: Carlson and BC. What are the eyes on Justin Gacy's torso?

1219
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: Looking at.

1220
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: A definitely the tips look just the tip though, just

1221
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: for a second. Yeah, serious question.

1222
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: Are those aren't those the eyes from the old Bad

1223
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Boys logo? Not the movie, like the the gear, like

1224
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: the fight game.

1225
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I really haven't

1226
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: looked at his torso that intensely to be able to

1227
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: know that. But yeah, I mean that. What didn't they

1228
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: say the abs are the eyes to the soul.

1229
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: The window?

1230
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got my metaphor is all kind

1231
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: of wrong here.

1232
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: All right, weird question. Let's go to at mister Roxy Depew,

1233
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: most useful fighter endorsed signature product during quarantine Foreman girl,

1234
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: foreman spelled wrong, Popper twelve or rootin O two trainer.

1235
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: I do want to shout out Roxy Depew, who is

1236
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: a man, by the way, and he was forced to

1237
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: change his name to mister because twice during DM for

1238
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: Donk appearances, I was like, oh.

1239
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: We got female viewers. This is great, Luke, European ones

1240
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: at that. But you know he's a man baby. He

1241
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: come after him.

1242
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: He's forty.

1243
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: I haven't used either of these three you, Luke.

1244
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: Got to be proper twelve, right, got to be proper twelve.

1245
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people used to form and grill.

1246
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: Like we've outlived. I used for the forman grill.

1247
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Right, I used it in college. Did you use it

1248
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: when you were here? Like late teens, early twenties.

1249
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: My early twenties, my first apartment, it was the I

1250
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: cooked hot dogs on it. That was the extent of it.

1251
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course you cooked hot dogs on

1252
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: it or the microwave or I bet, I bet, I

1253
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: bet your dumbasses ate him run out of the package too,

1254
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: didn't you.

1255
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad eat a round of the gas station.

1256
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes you gotta yeah, all.

1257
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it's got to be the proper twelve. Proper

1258
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: twelve is not great, but you know, if you're having

1259
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: a down day, you'd be all right. All right? From

1260
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Visaman eighty five best food you've cooked during quarantine? What

1261
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: do you say?

1262
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: That would be? None? Thank you? Thank you?

1263
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: How are you eating? And how are you eating? Like, like,

1264
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: what are you guys eating? Most weeks my.

1265
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: Wife cooks and after the initial too much takeout, eat

1266
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: whatever we can find, sort of like honeymoon face. She's

1267
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: gone back to a she's actually gone meatless for us

1268
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: all the last week and feel a lot better.

1269
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm not even get in shape, Luke.

1270
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: You know, I got through some got through some ups

1271
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: and downs emotionally during this journey.

1272
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm ready. So yeah, I've eaten

1273
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: very well. My wife's a great cook.

1274
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: You know, I've mixed in some TI a lot of

1275
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: tie takeout, trying to support the local businesses.

1276
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: But that's about it.

1277
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: I'll say that I don't think I've cooked hardly anything.

1278
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: I've been a lot of takeout. My mother in law

1279
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: staying with us, and she's been cooking tremendously, I believe. Yeah,

1280
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: I Belita is here. But I've not cooked. I mean,

1281
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: and I would say normally when I celebrate, I can

1282
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: make a mean flame mignon, you know, on the on

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Speaker 1: the cast iron skillet. But animal protein has been hard

1284
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Speaker 1: to come by and I wouldn't want to buy it

1285
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: much now anyway, because it's full of COVID and disease

1286
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: and death.

1287
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Speaker 2: Well, is that a conspiracy take from you? Is that

1288
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: a Luke Jones? Dude?

1289
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: Dude? Look at look at how the spread of COVID

1290
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: nineteen this country is directly correlated with our meat packing plant,

1291
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: our our meat plants. It is a disaster. It is

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Speaker 1: a complete disaster. So I don't think you can get

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Speaker 1: it from eating it. After you've cooked it. I think

1294
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: it's probably fine, but yeah, it's really really bad, really bad. No,

1295
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: you you've boys been surfing on everyone else's hard labor. BC. Sorry,

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00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: I got I cooke veggie.

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Speaker 2: Burgers actually on the grill yesterday because the weather was

1298
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: so fantastic.

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Speaker 1: But you know, veggie burgers are like the beyond impossible

1300
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: food burgers. No, it was, it was straight veggie burger.

1301
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: But it's so you know, it comes frozen, you throw

1302
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: on the grill for like, you know, two and a

1303
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: half minutes, flip it once it's ready to go. So

1304
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's not real grilling. I understand that.

1305
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the extent of my cooking.

1306
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, uh, Dennis Horvat And to Day five BC,

1307
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: this is very simple. Can you recommend some Showtime shows?

1308
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: I really like Billions? Well, Billions is the obvious one.

1309
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Anything else on your radar for folks who might be

1310
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: let's say, new to Showtime.

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: Well, I've always I've long been a respector of Showtime docs. Now, obviously,

1312
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 3: Showtime's got some great sports documentaries, you know, especially heavy

1313
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: and basketball that have been fantastic.

1314
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, we've talked in the past

1315
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: about that Eagles documentary.

1316
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: You go into the Showtime appor or if you've got

1317
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: on demand the music docs and the you know, regular

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 3: general culture documentaries, there's a lot. There's a lot of

1319
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 3: time you can spend in there, and they have been fantastic.

1320
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I'm company man, of course, but

1321
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't have regular series that I watch at the moment.

1322
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: But can you contribute to this conversation.

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: Luke Billions, I've watched, but I have the So there's

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00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: two different apps you can get. You can get the

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00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Showtime app and I have Showtime through YouTube TV. I

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: pay extra on top to get it that way. First

1327
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: of all, they show a bunch of movies you can

1328
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 1: go back through, like Dexter and what not. But here's

1329
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: my recommendation. I talked about it, I think last week

1330
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: on the show if Memory Serves, is the Wu Tang documentary.

1331
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: So if you have a Showtime, it's called the Showtime

1332
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: Anytime app, I think is what it's called. And through

1333
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: that you can go through and you can find all

1334
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: they have a run our test one Metal World, Peace,

1335
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: the Whole nine Yards, which by the way, some of

1336
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: the folks involved in this show made those go check

1337
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: out the Wu Tang documentary. It's it's only it's not

1338
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: a series, and since that what we're talking about, but

1339
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: it was when I first got the app and I

1340
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: first got the service. That was my destination viewing right there, and.

1341
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 2: Of course I'll forget about the old bipolar rock and roller.

1342
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: Fantastic fantastic piece are there.

1343
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: For oldamar Nala? All right? PC, now's the time when

1344
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: we look at dongs take it away.

1345
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: Why don't we do that?

1346
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: Why don't we scholar the globe for the good, the bad,

1347
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: the ugly, the best, the worst of the combat sports

1348
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: week and beyond.

1349
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: Yes it is. Have you seen this ish, Luke? We're

1350
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: gonna start off with actual fights. Hey, we always say, Luke,

1351
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: spinny shit gone wrong.

1352
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna end up on this show one championship recently

1353
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: using us some spinny esque gone wrong. Can we stop

1354
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: doing this unless you are well equipped? Can we stop

1355
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: trying to spin because you're gonna get sent you hell?

1356
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: And look, this guy got hit so hard he kind

1357
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: of took a dive.

1358
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: He got ticket. He like Felix, jumps into the canvas.

1359
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: Is that on the up and up?

1360
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: Right?

1361
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 4: There?

1362
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Is that?

1363
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: Is that a legitimate knockout?

1364
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: It's that seems fairly legit.

1365
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: Good lord, all right, talk to me about this next knockout.

1366
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: It came in a grocery store. I'll set the stage.

1367
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: This vagrant came in and started arguing. He spit on

1368
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: a pile of oranges, and here comes the grocer.

1369
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: Oh tko, look it's over.

1370
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: You know what, dude, is this a recent video? Like

1371
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: does this happen like in the last month or so.

1372
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to tell, Luke.

1373
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: If this asshole is out there spitting on oranges in

1374
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: the middle of this, dude, you have all my permission

1375
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: in the world to fuck this guy up.

1376
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 3: What I mean this guy is Yeah, this guy coming

1377
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: in leaving like this isn't like a hey stop that.

1378
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: This is like, you know, I'm taking your soul. That's

1379
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: how you protect your house, Luke. Way, when your dogs

1380
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 3: were barking earlier, I was wondering if you were having

1381
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 3: a home invasion Anthony Smith style, I would I would

1382
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 3: have commentated on it, or at least yelled at the guy.

1383
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to make a light of that. It's good.

1384
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: It's really nice. It's real nice. Yeah.

1385
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 3: Hey, all right, let's roll on with the ish. Here, Luke,

1386
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: this is on a Brazil street corner. This is what

1387
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: you do to someone you don't like Luke, it's called

1388
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: the Brazilion Dickings.

1389
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Oh that is awesome.

1390
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 3: All of shirt is your COVID takes and those are

1391
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: all the MMA fans around it, all.

1392
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, no, except my covid takes are correct. Oh

1393
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 5: that is awesome. Yeah, that is awesome. I've never seen

1394
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 5: that before. That's a great little gimmick.

1395
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: People can't figure out this next one. It's a street fight.

1396
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: Is this the greatest knockout of all time? Or a

1397
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 3: well done fake?

1398
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: Wow?

1399
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's unbelievable.

1400
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: I'll say this. If it's a fake, you're right, that

1401
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: is a really great job. They've done it setting that

1402
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: one up because the dude just like his swings uncontested.

1403
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: He may have whiplash from if that is a fake,

1404
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: but I don't think the back of his head hit.

1405
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: See they cut it at right, just the right time.

1406
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: I think it's a fake, and we don't do faces

1407
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: just like that. T This is me hitting you with

1408
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: my truth bombs every Monday, right, just like the time

1409
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: they told me we can't actually show deaths on the show.

1410
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: They're like, you know, phallic, go for it, dongs you

1411
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: got so You're like no doubt.

1412
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: BC starts to show me, like, hey, can we show

1413
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: a guy get eaten by a snake? I'm like, I

1414
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good idea. See all right, Looke, check.

1415
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: Out the balls on this runway fashion runway model. I

1416
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: could see you getting caught dead in these pants, Luke.

1417
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't understand high end fashion at all.

1418
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: No, please, Hammer, don't hurt them.

1419
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 3: I mean I wear those if I if I had

1420
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 3: like diarrhea really bad and I was out in public,

1421
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't wear white though.

1422
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: But I mean, like that that's about what what's the

1423
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: functionality of that?

1424
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Shoplifting? That's fair, that's fair shoplifting.

1425
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: Right our donk European fans not talking about webscreen, but

1426
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: our other ones they're probably wearing this. They're on the

1427
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: up and up there and and uh hey, Italy just

1428
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 3: opened up speaking of COVID, So shout out to all

1429
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: the Italians, all right, Luke, okay, thank you, thank you?

1430
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: All right?

1431
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: Rolling on here, Uh, you know, people's ability to stay

1432
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: clean in public situations during this COVID it is just

1433
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: out of control.

1434
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: Here.

1435
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: Check out this guy in the subway here, Luke, I

1436
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: am not down for that whatsoever, especially with children in

1437
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 3: the area. Luke, I mean, come on, that's just not sanitary.

1438
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this, there's so much right with this Number one.

1439
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: Look at this old that right. Number two the account

1440
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: is called HOGI farts.

1441
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: And number three BC.

1442
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: Tell the folks the truth. You and I ride the

1443
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: train after the show under normal conditions a lot. Have

1444
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: I ever ever touched the pole ever?

1445
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: One time?

1446
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: No?

1447
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: No, I always grab that thing, but only with one hand.

1448
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: I got a pole hand and then a regular hand.

1449
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: If I have to like itch myself, I do it.

1450
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: I do it in the old crook of the wrist,

1451
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: or I do it in the crook of the elbow.

1452
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: I never ever touched the pole. This guy's just like

1453
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 3: grabbing it by the crack. I mean, that is that's impressive, though.

1454
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 3: Look what do you think that feels like?

1455
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: You know what?

1456
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: I bet he's got an itchy itchy. You know he's

1457
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: trying to yeah, yeah, to scratch it.

1458
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: You know, all right, Luke. You know I'm able to

1459
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: go outside during COVID because I've got a yard. It's

1460
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: fenced in.

1461
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: Some people are stuck in apartments, so they've got to

1462
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: come up with wayte to entertain themselves. Check out this

1463
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: mini golf trick shot. Can you rate this from one

1464
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: to ten?

1465
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh god, please? Is that a girl? Yes? I think?

1466
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Luke, that's incredible.

1467
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: Wait what did she do that passed through the system?

1468
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: Quick?

1469
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: Did she just like queap her way through this? Oh?

1470
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: We don't use that word on the show, Luke, please please?

1471
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: This is a family of Is this a children's program

1472
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: that is more like hole and fun? Yeah? That is fantastic, Luke.

1473
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: Wow she uh that's a very talented young lady.

1474
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1475
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: Other people are passing time, Luke by making music as

1476
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: practicing their zen. What do you think of this lady's

1477
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: rhythmic patterns? Oh god, you know's the one in the

1478
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: left hand is bigger. That's kind of that's kind of

1479
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: accurate right culturally?

1480
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, I.

1481
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: Gotta get off this clip before you quit the show.

1482
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: The beaches are opened up, Luke, But some people's etiquette

1483
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: is out of control. Check out these two old bastards

1484
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: fighting over this picnic table. Oh yeah, and watch this

1485
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: guy go full mount real quick, Luke.

1486
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's this fire festival? Yeah? What is I mean?

1487
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 2: Come on? Look?

1488
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,959
Speaker 3: You know I understand when you're young, but old people

1489
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 3: get into fights. You know, I could understand old guys

1490
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 3: in a backyard playing football. You pitch, you pitch right

1491
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 3: to the old half back. He runs into the red

1492
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 3: car face first. We saw that video.

1493
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: I can understand that. What's going on here though?

1494
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, credits of the guy in white though, if you're

1495
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: gonna go full bore on this whole thing, you gotta

1496
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: be the one who strikes first. What do they say

1497
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: from Cobra Kai strike first, strike hard, no mercy? Is

1498
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: that is something like that?

1499
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: Sir?

1500
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: You know he took he took that to heart.

1501
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, let's move on here. Uh check out

1502
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 2: this guy. Uh. I really can't set it up, Luke.

1503
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: All I know is this had to hurt.

1504
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how would you explain this show to somebody?

1505
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: How would you explain this show? It's like, well, we

1506
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: discuss MMA topics, combat sports, and then we just watch

1507
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: Dixon balls and uh usually trauma. I watched the guys.

1508
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 2: Can't laugh your way through through this corn Listen, I'm laughing.

1509
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm laughing, but I'm serious. Like, if I does anyone

1510
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: in your family, if we talk about this, is any

1511
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: when your family watch your stuff, like watch your shows

1512
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1513
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 3: I try not to allow them. My mom did just

1514
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: tell me that she's she follows the Morning Combat account,

1515
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: so she's been seeing.

1516
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: Some of this and she loves it.

1517
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: So no one of my family gives a shit about

1518
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: any of stuff I do, which is fine, it turns

1519
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: out in retrospect. But if they did and they asked me,

1520
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: why do you air stuff like that? I understand you,

1521
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: and I think it's good for the show, But I

1522
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: don't know how i'd like what's the through line from Hey,

1523
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: UFC two forty nine is trying to deal with COVID

1524
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: nineteen to here's a guy balls and dicks up having

1525
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: a door shut on him. I don't know how to

1526
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: see that.

1527
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 3: It's the same self realization I think that meth users

1528
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: go through. They're like, you know, I never thought I'd

1529
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: ended up here, but you know, how did I get here?

1530
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: But you know, it just feels good. You just keep going.

1531
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta I got arm pit stains. It

1532
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: really fell if it's in well here all right, Luke,

1533
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: let's roll on here. We talk about opening back up

1534
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: beaches and stadiums. Everything's gonna change post covid. How about

1535
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: a post Oh there's another post covid haircut, Luke. This one, though,

1536
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 3: is that is as barbaric and ridiculous.

1537
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: That's gotta hurt.

1538
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: Is that like a sheep?

1539
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: Shear? Yeah?

1540
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean it is.

1541
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: It is quick and efficient, though.

1542
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: Dude, what is wrong with these people? And he's doing

1543
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: it in a barn?

1544
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: I mean you want that, You want that that that

1545
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: that close shave, look that feel you know, baby's bottom you.

1546
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: This is how when I when I went to boot

1547
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: camp and they give you a haircut when they get

1548
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: you when you get there, like you know, two in

1549
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: the morning or whatever. Dog, it hurts so bad because

1550
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: they're just trying to rifle through everybody. So they just

1551
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: take those clippers and they're just running it over your

1552
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: scalp as hard as they can. It reminds me of that.

1553
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, they don't care about you, Luke. I

1554
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: I saw a full metal jacket. I see how that ends. Uh, Luke?

1555
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: Remember you told me that at Dolphin Stadium they can't

1556
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 3: be out there because they're gonna be in line pissing

1557
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 3: near each other.

1558
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: I got a solution for that. This is the future

1559
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: of sports bars. Post quarantine. What are your thoughts on this?

1560
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, that is a great idea. Well, aren't you

1561
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: the one that just goes through the movie again? HOGI farts?

1562
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: Here are the winner of all winters? Yeah, yeah, I

1563
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: love this idea. And aren't you the one that went

1564
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: to the movies? It was just like you were spraying

1565
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: everything around you like no, that was Sean Coin.

1566
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 2: That was my old friend Shawn Coin, just letting that

1567
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: thing out in the middle of the movie. There they'd

1568
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: be like couples, you know, ten rows up on a

1569
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: day and it's just like sliding downhill at their feet. Yeah,

1570
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, I can't imagine that a bar like this

1571
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: will generate a lot of women. But depending on where

1572
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: you are in life, who cares?

1573
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 3: Right, Well, if you notice there's a tap at each chair,

1574
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: so you have not only your own you know, beer tap,

1575
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: you have your own.

1576
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: So it comes in and it goes out in the

1577
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: same spot. No transaction, Maybe you just pay one price

1578
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: at the door. I kind of like this. I mean,

1579
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't like if you if you turn you could

1580
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: you could accidentally te on tea guy real quick. I

1581
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't like that. But I'll say, if you can do

1582
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: it discreetly.

1583
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: Look, you know, you ever been to those bars where

1584
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: you sit at the table and then the table has

1585
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: its own beer tap and you can just like serve yourself.

1586
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: I've never written that. No, Yeah, they're scams because you

1587
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: end up paying a lot, But kind of reminds me

1588
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: of that, except they didn't have a latrain built into

1589
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: any of them.

1590
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: My grandfather once drove me from Connecticut to Florida and

1591
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 2: he brought this like giant bottle just in case, so

1592
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: he could relieve himself while driving. I thought that was

1593
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 2: disgusting in hindsight, but this, this would fit in well with.

1594
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: That dumb and dumber style. I have done that on

1595
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: road trips, by the way, I am that man.

1596
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: All right, that's well, that's well done. All Right, we

1597
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: got one more for you, Luke.

1598
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 3: You know pro wrestler slash MMA fighter Bobby Lashley. He

1599
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,480
Speaker 3: posted a video of his chiropractic techniques.

1600
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, oh my god, Luke, what does that feel like?

1601
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a real pro athlete, Luke.

1602
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: That's uh so so hold on, So this is doctor

1603
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: Bow from Jackson Week. I've actually had an adjustment from him.

1604
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: Now you've had explains everything. Yeah, well we didn't go

1605
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: to this. He only fixed my shoulder. I don't know

1606
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: what is wrong with Bill hick Tower's name. I don't

1607
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: know what's wrong with Bobby Lashley that getting his oil

1608
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: checked is the solution.

1609
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: But well, you know, after a massage, let.

1610
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: Me say this, Let me say this, Let me say this.

1611
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: Doctor h Tower does this or different versions of it

1612
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: for a lot of different people. That dude fixed my

1613
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: shoulder in the middle of one of its worst problems.

1614
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: So you know what, I don't know what the hell

1615
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: this which doctor stuff is, but with me, he was

1616
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: he was great.

1617
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: All I know is after a massage, you just feel

1618
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 3: that warm feeling. You feel like you know, you're you're

1619
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: just flying, like you're like a puppet. I guess if

1620
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: you get nailed in the sphincter like that too, it

1621
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 3: must just completely loosen you up.

1622
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: Luke, I'll take your word for it. BC.

1623
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, look have you seen that that shit? Yeah?

1624
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: All right, that's good.

1625
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say, HOGI farts, that's a that's that's what

1626
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: you bring to this show right here.

1627
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 2: Look, you got a few more jobs. We're almost done

1628
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: with the show, right, we are almost done.

1629
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: I do have a few more jobs a time for

1630
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: Odds and Ends BC, go first, Actually, you know what

1631
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: are gonna go first? Because it's a bigger topic of

1632
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: the two if I can real quickly for my Odds

1633
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: and Ends. Episodes five and six of The Last Dance

1634
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: aired last night BC. A lot of different takeaways to

1635
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: get from it. First of all, is this not just

1636
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan taking part in a documentary that's ten parts,

1637
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: So twenty thirty years later he can still tell Isaiah

1638
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,440
Speaker 1: Thomas to go fuck himself? It's a much. It's amazing.

1639
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Ray Dude hates them.

1640
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 3: Like I said last week that you know, Jordan's a

1641
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: ten out of ten from a performance standpoint. Look, I

1642
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: do not know maybe in combat sports because guys tend

1643
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 3: to be more honest and trash talking. I do not

1644
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: know another pro athlete who would deliver like this, who

1645
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 3: would sit down, keep old grudges alive and almost.

1646
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: Start some new ones and just hammer out everyone, even

1647
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: people he likes. You know, he's still kind of telling

1648
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: you the honest truth of it. It is incredible. And

1649
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: they didn't even tell the first the full Isaiah story.

1650
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: The reason why him and Isaiah fell apart was when

1651
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: Jordan was a rookie at the All Star Game, Isaiah

1652
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: organized a freeze out where everyone stopped passing him the

1653
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: ball because they thought he was rising too quick endorsement wise.

1654
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, the same thing happened to Shack

1655
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: at the ninety four All Star Game, which people don't

1656
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 3: talk about enough, where they double and triple team to

1657
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 3: him every time they got the ball because he had

1658
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: a rap album, because he was doing movies. That's where

1659
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 3: that beaf started. I loved watching that play out. And

1660
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of nerdy director types like

1661
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 3: Jay during our pre show, who's just hammering the space

1662
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: time continuum of this film.

1663
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: Luke, how they're going.

1664
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: He's got a point of here and.

1665
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: Back and forth. I'm not getting whiplash from that. I'm

1666
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: loving it, Luke.

1667
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: Here's my problem. I don't get whiplash from it because

1668
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: there's so many interesting stories to get told. But what

1669
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: ends up happening on occasion, not all the time, BC,

1670
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: but on occasion, is that sometimes a certain topic overall

1671
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: will get full treatment, but it gets it in these

1672
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: light touches over time, rather than some kind of all

1673
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: at once, or at least all in two parts, and

1674
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love that aspect of it. But my

1675
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: biggest Takeawy from Yesterday. There was two episodes, so you

1676
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: could pick a lot of different things, but to me,

1677
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: it was just how fun it was to be a

1678
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: kid in nineteen ninety two when the Barcelona Games came

1679
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: around and the Dream Team was there. My god, dude,

1680
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: why to hear Magic Johnson talk about the practice where

1681
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: on Jordan and the Jordan stunted on him. I gotta

1682
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: tell you, dude, that was one I remember when they

1683
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 1: let pros in because at first my mom was like,

1684
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: why are they gonna let pros play basketball? And I

1685
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about sports enough to have a strong

1686
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: opinion about it. And then when I saw them, I'm like,

1687
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 1: this is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

1688
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: So to me, people don't like the build toward that

1689
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: ninety two Olympics was was everything. I mean, it was

1690
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 3: We're gonna kick the crap out of the rest of

1691
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 3: the world with this super team. By the way, the

1692
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: seven eleven Cups, I wish I saved them all.

1693
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: I remember those.

1694
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: During the During the original Dream Tam run, you'd get

1695
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 3: a poster with the Slurpee Cup. It was incredible and

1696
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 3: they'd have a different player every week. That was fantastic.

1697
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: And those practices in Monte Carlo. If you ever seen

1698
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 3: the NBA TV documentary on the Dream Team, I've been

1699
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: obsessed with those for thirty years.

1700
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,839
Speaker 2: Luke. I even bought that book I think Jack McCallum

1701
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: wrote it about the Dream Team just to kind of

1702
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: read the details of that talk about being a fly

1703
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,879
Speaker 2: on the wall. That would have been incredible.

1704
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been incredible. And I'll just the

1705
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: stuff with Tony Kuk coach is really interesting to how

1706
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: they kind of bullied him because he was Jerry Cross's guy.

1707
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 1: There was really I mean, there's so much.

1708
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: Jerry Cross's Jerry Cross's guy too. We are they starting

1709
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 3: to paint the late Jerry Cross as sort of like,

1710
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: let me try to find the great White Hope and

1711
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: I can replace Jordan and Pippen and bring him in

1712
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 3: here and finally, you know, get some credit to myself.

1713
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: What championship was it? Where afterwards he goes, you know,

1714
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: obviously this is a great win for the team, but

1715
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: what this really shows down to the equipment managers is

1716
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: this is a great organization. He's got a point about that, Like,

1717
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: if you just look at NFL teams, the ones that

1718
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: draft the best consistently year, every year they're in the

1719
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: playoffs more, they just do better. You do want to

1720
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: have a great front office and that front office to

1721
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: help build a great team, but when you've got transcendental

1722
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: talent like that, and you kind of some of that

1723
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: was just yes, Jerry Cross's engineering, but also like a

1724
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: bit of a stroke of luck. I have a little

1725
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: humility about why you're actually where you are and how

1726
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: little you're going to be able to replicate what's happening here.

1727
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: It's like drafting Tony Kukoach in nineteen ninety, brilliant move,

1728
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 3: yet holding him over Jordan and Pippen and kind of

1729
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 3: creating this disharmony.

1730
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous.

1731
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: I do want to hit the main theme of what

1732
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 3: was the second episode, Jordan's you know, other side, the

1733
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: dark side so to speak. Luke does he have a

1734
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: gambling addiction or a competitive addiction?

1735
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: Because I'm going with the former. I mean, this guy's

1736
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: like betting quarters with Mullet wearing old ass security guard too.

1737
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: By the way, pack in big time heat those dudes.

1738
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: Dude, if you're buying Scottie Pippen a set of clubs

1739
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: so you could take money off of them when you

1740
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: go golfing. That's the only reason why he has a

1741
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: set of golf clubs. You got a problem. You got

1742
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: a real, real problem. That dude was an absolute addict

1743
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: to gambling. He's sitting here doing BC this entire sit down,

1744
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: with a rack of cigars next to him, in this

1745
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: palatial estate he lives in with a drink and he's

1746
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: got jaundiced eyeball the entire time. My man loves nothing

1747
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: more than sitting at a table and recklessly playing even

1748
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: magical Johnson was saying, you can't just gamble with Jordan.

1749
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: He has to beat you and then step on your

1750
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: throat when he does it. It's not enough for him.

1751
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: So it's probably both things. But yeah, you're right, he's

1752
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: addicted to gambling.

1753
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: I mean him going too that one dollar table with

1754
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 2: like the Will Purdue types and just killing them for

1755
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: their money.

1756
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 3: By the way, this guy is the MVP. He just

1757
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: passed away last year. He was Michael's like personal family

1758
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,799
Speaker 3: security guard as well. This is the least imposing security

1759
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 3: staff I know. They're all ex cops and they're they're

1760
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: wearing they're wearing guns. But do you see the guys

1761
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,440
Speaker 3: who surrounds himself with just a bunch of old pastors

1762
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 3: and he sits in the room and just you know,

1763
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: gambles for twenty dollars bills rolling dice with them. I mean,

1764
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: maybe that's the real Michael at his core, and maybe

1765
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 3: that was, you know, his some of his only times

1766
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 3: to feel like a regular dude when they did properly

1767
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 3: in this documentary portray how hard it is, obviously to

1768
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 3: be the you know, the most famous man in the world.

1769
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: At that point, he seems to.

1770
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: Look it worked for him, right, seems to have kind

1771
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: of figured it out, so God bless them. It's great.

1772
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I'm not gonna complain about that. I

1773
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: wish this had one hundred parts because you know, they

1774
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: went through that the Bulls Knick's Rivalry, which is just

1775
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: some incredible series, and that they didn't even mention that

1776
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: ninety two series that went seven games that I could

1777
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: just watch that, Luke. I can watch a full documentary

1778
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: on every playoff series. This is great and it's it's

1779
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: bringing back so much nineties basketball love look in this

1780
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 2: day and age with streaming, and we have way too

1781
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 2: many options for entertainment. I'm gonna be honest, I find

1782
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: it really hard to watch current pro sports and sit

1783
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: through a whole game and really be actively And I

1784
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 2: could go back on YouTube and I do it regularly.

1785
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 2: Put on a nineties game and Luke, I watch every second.

1786
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 2: I watch it from start. I watched the whole pregame show.

1787
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: I watched the whole damn thing.

1788
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 3: It was better, you know, when they let you handcheck

1789
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 3: a guy, when you could basically assault somebody in the

1790
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: middle of the lane.

1791
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 2: When you know, man, I miss that.

1792
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: When men were men. Okay, b see what is your

1793
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: odds and ends? Yeah?

1794
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: I thought it was weird this past week when you know,

1795
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 3: boxing's looking for any headlines, but you saw a lot

1796
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: of headlines coming out with Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury

1797
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 3: being discussed, you know, some super fight for all the

1798
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 3: heavyweight titles and Saudi Arabia potentially getting involved, and then

1799
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 3: you're seeing everybody, including ESPN, coming out and writing stories

1800
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: about it. I actually thought it was a little bit

1801
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,879
Speaker 3: reckless because of this. I don't doubt that Saudi Arabia

1802
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: is not trying to make this fight or throwing stupid

1803
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 3: amounts of money at it. But Deontay Wilder's got a

1804
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: contractually obligated kicked in trilogy that's gotta happen. And let's

1805
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 3: not forget Kubra Pulev who's had the mandatory and Anthony

1806
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 3: Joshua for so long. Both guys are going to be

1807
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 3: needed to pay to paid giant amount of money to

1808
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 3: step aside. It's not that the money wouldn't be there,

1809
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 3: it's that until we have some kind of confirmation that

1810
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 3: these guys are even willing to, you know, sit down

1811
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: at a table and hear the potential amount of money

1812
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: to step aside, it's way too early to be writing

1813
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: stories or even talking about a Fury Joshua fight, which

1814
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 3: by the way, would probably be the biggest fight you

1815
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: can make in the sport outside of some kind of

1816
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 3: like Mayweather Pakia rematch. So I want to see that

1817
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 3: fight like everybody, I want to see one universal heavyweight champion.

1818
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: But I mean, there's a lot of obstacles to get

1819
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 3: through first, so people need to slow their roll a bit.

1820
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: BC. As we close today's show, True or False Saturday

1821
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:27,879
Speaker 1: night at midnight, is Brian Campbell wearing pants, shorts.

1822
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: I'll be wearing shorts, you know those, you know what

1823
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 3: has become Mike now that the weather's better, my quarantine savior,

1824
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 3: running shorts with the built in underwear. You just throw

1825
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 3: a pair on, Luke, don't shower for it accomplishes two

1826
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 3: jobs and one piece of fabric.

1827
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll be wearing the night white.

1828
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 1: Right now, you're basically wearing swim trunks.

1829
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, swim trunks.

1830
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 3: I mean, because you get to a point where you know,

1831
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 3: you know this, you just stop showering for a while,

1832
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 3: and you know what you wore to bed last night

1833
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 3: is what you wear over at the UH at the

1834
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 3: chainsaw area when you're mauling wood, and then you know, yeah.

1835
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough. Well, b C, I know you've

1836
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: been waiting for these fights almost more than anyone else.

1837
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: I know Saturday is gonna be huge. But before we

1838
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: get there, I need to remind folks. Go to showtime

1839
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: dot com right now for thirty days. You can get

1840
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 1: a free trial. If you'll like it, you can keep it.

1841
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: If not, you can bounce and me and BC here

1842
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: we got some stuff that's sore for you this week,

1843
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,879
Speaker 1: and of course next Monday we're gonna have great reactions

1844
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: to everything. Plus we'll preview the two upcoming fights BC

1845
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: that happened later on next week. So subscribe to the channel,

1846
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: give the video a thumbs up. If you want BCS

1847
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: social media for Instagram or Twitter, there you have it.

1848
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: Mine is on the screen as well. We appreciate anyone

1849
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: support BC. Let me give a shout out to a

1850
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: Twitter account that does a lot of good for us.

1851
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: Have you seen Morning Combat No Context?

1852
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

1853
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, let me give them a shout them out.

1854
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 1: You can go to at MK underscore no underscore context.

1855
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm not affiliated with this? Are you affiliated with this?

1856
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: In incapacity?

1857
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: Not at all, But they tend to grab my most

1858
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 2: ridiculous words and pull them out of context.

1859
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: So great, but they certainly do, and they did it

1860
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: with me as well. I love everything about it, so

1861
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: give them a follow as well. I want to thank

1862
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: the viewers for sticking through us, sticking through us, sticking

1863
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: with us, and through you're thinking.

1864
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: Of Bobby that, yeah, doing that as well.

1865
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 1: But here's in all seriousness, BC, we've not had fights

1866
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: for a while this show. I'll be honest. I think

1867
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: it functions best when there are events. So we've had to,

1868
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, do tap dance here in a little a

1869
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: jig and a move there. But I, I don't know.

1870
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm just really appreciative of the audience that we've got here,

1871
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: the ones that have stuck bias, the ones that continue

1872
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: to stick bias. Obviously, next week it'll be back kind

1873
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 1: of what's what we were, not in the same room,

1874
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: but more of what the show was designed to do,

1875
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for that. But I want to say,

1876
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, even if there's no fights, I've been really, really,

1877
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 1: really appreciative of everyone who's stuck around for us, and

1878
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: I know you feel the same.

1879
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the ones who followed us over to Morning Combat

1880
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: Classics as we relived some great fights.

1881
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 3: People who have been like, hey, I don't even care

1882
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: about sports. I just want to see you guys argue

1883
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: and talk about whatever. And look, you tease something that

1884
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 3: you said Morning Comment's gonna have more for them this week.

1885
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

1886
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. I don't want to say much

1887
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 1: more than that. How can we leave it at that?

1888
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: But be on the lookout is what I will say. Right,

1889
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: sound good to you, mate?

1890
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert? Yeah?

1891
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: All right, wait, there we go. All right well for

1892
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell over at CBS Sports, I am Luke Thomas,

1893
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for watching, Thanks to show Time,

1894
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: Malcolm and everyone else who makes the show possible. And

1895
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: until next time, all of your gains be loyal.