1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, you're a back on the show with normal, 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: which takes full when these gets weird. And during the 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: holidays we were doing some ask us anything, and you 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: guys have been kind enough to contribute questions to us. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: So let's kick it off with whatever we got under 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: the hood here. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: We have a lot of good ones. 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: Mary Catherine, We're gonna start with what advice do you 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: have for young women who want to get married, have kids, 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: be a pretty involved mom without completely throwing their career 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: prospects away. I really feel like we get this a lot, 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: and I do think it's so important to address because 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: people are worried about this. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: They want both and they don't understand. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: They're told they can't have both by a lot of people, 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: and they're looking to us to tell them that they 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: can have both. 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: And I'm here to say you can. 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: You absolutely can getting married, having kids, being an involved 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: mom should not mean you don't get to have a career, 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: and anybody who tells you otherwise is lying to you. 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Does it mean that you will, you know, one hundred percent, 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: be at every single thing that you always. 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Want to be at for both your career and your kids. 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: No, you may have to miss a thing or two, 26 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: but getting most of it in both places is enough. 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: And I'm here to tell you you will make choices 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: and you will find the right balance and it's completely doable. 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I think the good news 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: is that, particularly post COVID, I always say that I 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: had a COVID era flexibility pre COVID that I created 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: yea for myself. But part of that, for both of us, 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: was being intentional about making choices and taking gigs that 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: allowed for the flexibility for me to be with my kids. 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: That was the plan. That was why I chose to 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: follow this path. It's why I didn't choose, for instance, 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: to run and gun for my own primetime show or 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: something right, that was not the object. The object was 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: to be in my kids' lives and to be around 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: and available sometimes at odd hours where a nine to 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: five job wouldn't work for me. And as a result, 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: there are opportunities I didn't take. There's money I didn't take. 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: There's flexibility I took instead of money. There's healthcare situations 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: that had to be a little more patched together because 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I was taking gigs that you take that. So that's 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: my experience in the Bombacare Mountain Market Woo. So there 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: are sacrifices, yes, but my eye was on the ball, 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: and the ball was I want to spend time with 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: my kids, so I think, and I'm not the most 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: intentional person in the world, you may have noticed, Carol, 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: But on this front, I think I had in mind 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: that this is what's important to me, and this is 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: what's not as important to me. And knowing that and 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: being able to be confident and what's important to you, 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: that's half the battle. 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll also add I feel like there's a lot 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: of rigid thinking about being with your kids. Like so 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: a lot of people will say, you know, when you're 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: with your kids, don't even look at your phone. Well no, 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: I pick up my kids from school, you know, at 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: three o'clock every day, and I'm still so I do 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: have to look at my phone, and I'm sorry, Like 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: I don't get to just just log off and be 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: completely with my kids. I pick them up every single day. 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: I have the conversations that you can only have on 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: the drive home from school, that they suddenly are open 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: up and talk to you about stuff. I'm there, I'm 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: present as much as I can. I do avoid the phone. 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: But look, if I have if I'm on a deadline 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: or if my editors sending me something or whatever, I 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: am going to be on my phone a little bit, 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: like give yourself a little grace and space to do 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: both things sometimes. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to model good behavior in that way, 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not always great at it. Yeah, but I 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: would say I there's rigidity from everyone in the online 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: conversation about this and in the discourse about this that 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I think crowds out how many more choices we have 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: exactly than we used to. My mother didn't have half 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: the choices I have available to her, and so or 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: the resources or just in like like having groceries delivered, 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: for instance, which is a more expensive way of doing it, 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: but if you need it, you can do it. Like 84 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: there's all these things that she didn't have at her disposal, 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: And I look back at her and I go, how 86 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: is she like running errands every Yeah? How was she 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: getting anything done? 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: And didn't have cell phones? 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm kind of amazed by all that she did 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: get done back then. And of course my dad was 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: similarly supportive as our husbands are, so that was. 92 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: A huge That's another thing. 93 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: Marry the right person who will support you in your 94 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: decisions and be there for you and have you know, 95 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: some shared responsibilities in the home. I've talked about this before. 96 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: We are fairly heteronormative. If something breaks, so he has 97 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: to fix it. Like that, I followed all the laundry. 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: Like we do kind of fall into the very typical 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: women in female and male roles. But we do both 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: have responsibilities and we both participate in parenting for example. 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: That's something that we do together. 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other form of practical advice I would give 103 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: is if you do want to get married and have kids, 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: be clear about that in your own mind and with 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: potential partners, and don't hang around for six years engaged 106 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: or living together or whatever the thing is. If you 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: want that to be your path, make it clear and 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: either what do they say, fish or cup bait? 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: That's right, pooper, get off the pot Tay said it 110 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: the nice way. So that brings us to our next question, 111 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: which actually fits very well with the end of that. 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: Where can we hear mkh uncensored? I want to hear 113 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: full potty mouth, but it ain't going to be on 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: cable or podcasts apparently. 115 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can get pretty bad. I must canes. 116 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: I've never heard. You're always like very non cursy. 117 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Not in my house, not in my house. And I 118 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: don't think I will do it publicly because it's it's 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: bad form and I should be a better, more polite 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Southern lady, and I shouldn't. 121 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: I see you as that polite Southern lady like our 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: friend Bethany Mendel, Like she curses, she curses, you know 123 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: in her everyday life. 124 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: You do not curse, you know her sometimes? 125 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Well, I again, I do, but not on air. And 126 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: if you really want to see it, you'll have to 127 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: catch me at a sports bar watching a dog's game. 128 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, but. 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: The dogs have been winning, so I know you're not 130 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: even cursing at the TV screen. 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: Come on, that's true. But if you were to find 132 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: me out of line in public, that's where it would be. 133 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: Can you too, please host a party? Women are desperate 135 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: for connections with like minded women, and all of your 136 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: listeners would become best friends. 137 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: I love that. That's so fun. 138 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: I used to do that for my blog. I used 139 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: to have, like, you know, people who read me. We'd 140 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: have like parties and people did become friends and get 141 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 3: married and all kinds. 142 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: Of stuff through those meetups. 143 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: I'd love to do that. Actually I don't know where 144 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: where would we do that. It couldn't be like in DC, right, 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and I don't. I mean, I 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: pitched South Florida, But. 147 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: I also just don't think it would be here either. 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: Where Where would that be? 149 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: Like I like the idea, let's sprainstorm it a little bit. 150 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Also a thing that I think, I think this uh, 151 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: this listener is correct that people are longing for connections. 152 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I should probably make 153 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: a New Year's resolution is that I'm not great at hosting. 154 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a nervous hoster when it comes to 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: dinner parties or even just having people over casually. I 156 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: get nervous. I get insecure about what I'm offering and 157 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: is my cheese good enough? 158 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you. 159 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: And so I need to get better about that, because 160 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't go to other people's houses 161 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: and get mad about what cheese they offer me, like 162 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: like if they're not judging me, they're my friends, Like 163 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: they could come in, don't be fine. So I'm going 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: to try to get better about offering that part of 165 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: connection to other people as well. 166 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I'm look, I'm also a nervous hoster. 167 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Actually not so much in my house, but when I 168 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: have to have parties or like when I had book 169 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: launch parties or kids barb butt mitzvahs. I'm always like 170 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: people having fun. I just can't tell. So that kind 171 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: of stuff makes me nervous. But yeah, you're right, there 172 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: are friends they're not going to care well. 173 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: And the fact is when you get a bunch of 174 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: cool people together, they. 175 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Have fun, right, It's so obvious. And our friends are 176 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: cool people and our listeners are cool people. So yeah, 177 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: I think, you know, we'll have to figure out a way. 178 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be around some other big event, maybe like 179 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: the next you know, GOP convention or something. 180 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. 181 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound that fun actually, but something something, some 182 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: kind of big something. Maybe we'll have a wet together 183 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: normally listener party and you know that'll be the. 184 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: That'll be what we do. 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I like it all right. 186 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: Speaking of your cheese, actually, can you DM me the 187 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: pimento cheese recipe from Hurricane ninety three on Twitter? 188 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: Why do you leave. 189 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: This poor listener hanging I just don't understand the pimento cheese. 190 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: Mkay. The people want should look it's very simple. I 191 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: just you know what I need to do. I need 192 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: to text my dad right now and be like, is 193 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: this public? Can I just make this public? 194 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: And I feel like you said this a year ago. 195 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I know, but this is the problem with my my 196 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: brain dysfunction is that once I once those words come 197 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: out of my mouth, I will forget they came out 198 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: of my mouth and I will not follow up. But listen, 199 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write it down right now. 200 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, mister hammer, can this be public. 201 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: About the pimento cheese? 202 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: Okay? All right? 203 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean really it's very simple. It's that's the thing 204 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: about all the fancy pimento cheeses. You'll need all that. 205 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: You just need like you seed the cheese and the 206 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: mayonnaise and basically red pepper flakes and that's that's that's 207 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: about it, folks. That's it. Yeah. Well, I mean, you 208 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: know in the pimento obviously. 209 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: Hurricane ninety three. I hope you're listening and there you 210 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: have it. But you know, we'll find out if I'm caking. 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work on this. I'm gonna work on this, 212 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: all right? 213 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: Do we do a serious one? Sure? 214 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: No more pimento, here we go. Why do you think 215 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: j Evans is incapable of distancing himself from Groiper's or 216 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: even taking seriously anti Semitism on the right. 217 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: I have been thinking. 218 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: About this a lot, and I really like Jadvance. I 219 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: liked him before he became vice president. I still like 220 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: him today. But he's whiffing on this, and he's missing 221 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: the opportunity to define himself as the kind of man 222 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: who won't stand for. 223 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: This kind of thing. And I get it. 224 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: I get that there's a lot of difficult angles to this. 225 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: He's very close friends with Tucker Crelson. I have admitted 226 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: on here that I delayed saying anything about Tucker until 227 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: it got really bad because I like Tucker Crelson. 228 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: I liked him. I used to go on his show. 229 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: We were friendly, we used to text, and so I 230 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: gave him the benefit of the doubt until it was 231 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: impossible to give him any more benefit of the doubt. 232 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: And that's where J. D Van has to be. The 233 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: time for this has long passed. There's no denying what 234 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: this is anymore. And I'd love to see J. D 235 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: Vance take a stand. I think it would be good 236 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: for him. I think he thinks he would lose who's 237 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: some number of followers or you know, people who would 238 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: vote for him. 239 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. I think he would gain people. 240 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: I think people long for sanity and normalcy, and he 241 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: could deliver that to them. 242 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Also, leadership is important. Yeah, you know, even if you 243 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: think there's a segment of people who will not come 244 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: with you right on these very sane, decent person sentiments, yep, 245 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: you can help by leading. Yeah. And He's in particular, 246 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: is a very effective communicator who has relationships with people 247 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: who are listened to by younger people on the Groper 248 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: right or the Internet right, and could actually influence how 249 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: people come to their conclusions about this. So that's the 250 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: thing that he should do. It's an opportunity I think. 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Also on other fronts. You know, I remember when the 252 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Signal Chat was publicized by Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic 253 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: because he had been mistakenly added to the Signal chat. 254 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: What struck me is just how hesitant JD. Vance was 255 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: about American force because even in the case of American 256 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: targets being hit and these you know, very obviously places 257 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: that we should have control over being hit by Uji's 258 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: He was like, should we be up to this? So 259 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: there are things that concern me about his ideology that 260 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: I just don't agree with, and I don't I think 261 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: that Trump is more willing to make those calls and 262 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: would be concerned about him. And I think Left and 263 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: Right welcome to the horseshoe when it comes to young people. 264 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: The establishments of both parties are trying to figure out 265 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: how they keep young people in and they see the 266 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: polling on young people turning against Israel to some extent 267 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: being a little more isolationist and in fact sometimes openly 268 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: anti Semitic, and they don't know how to keep that 269 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: under the tent without sort of winking at it. And 270 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: to your point, Carol, I think that's not only morally wrong, 271 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: but probably tactically strategically wrong in the end, because the 272 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: Normies outnumber these folks. 273 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: That's it. 274 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: That's it. 275 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: The Normi's out number them. 276 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: Concern, of course, is that that fringe wing will keep 277 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: growing and the Normies will be out numbered. 278 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: The thing about Israel. 279 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Which is why I think that leadership is important from 280 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: someone who's a really good communicator. 281 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: For sure, and The thing about Israel is that it's 282 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: not about Israel. It's really not like if you want 283 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: to cut you know, all funding to all you know, 284 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: all foreign aid to all countries, go ahead, run on that, 285 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: discuss that. 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Don't wink at it. 287 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: Don't like pretend you're talking about something else, like I actually, 288 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: I again, I don't. I think a lot of people 289 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: ascribe motives to JD. Vance that maybe he doesn't have. 290 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the groypers see him as as 291 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: a fellow traveler, like oh, he's going to dump his wife, 292 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: his Indian wife and marry you know, Charlie Kirk's widow. 293 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 3: Kind of insanity online. 294 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: I know. But the thing is, until I hear it 295 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: from him, I don't know what he stands for. 296 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: And this whole idea of like, oh, people are just 297 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: attacking Tucker because they want they hate JD's foreign policy. 298 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: And my comment to that is, is JD's foreign policy 299 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: different than Donald Trump's foreign policy? 300 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: And if so, does the president know that his vice 301 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: president's foreign policy is different than his own? I feel 302 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: like this is an important conversation to have. 303 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: Why are we having it in like whispers on the 304 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: internet instead of out loud, you know, everywhere. 305 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to give JD. 306 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: The benefit of the doubt, and I'm going to see 307 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: where this goes. But yeah, I don't love how quiet 308 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: he's been and how muted his criticism has been. And 309 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: I get that he doesn't want to get caught in 310 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: the trap that mainstream media does set for Republicans to 311 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: constantly be denouncing things. 312 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I get it. 313 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: You don't have to be denouncing everything all the time. 314 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: But this is becoming something that you ma, you want 315 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: to denounced in the in the near future, cry it 316 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: out method for or against if for at what age? 317 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh this is this is very controvery last one thought, 318 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: I thought. 319 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, I I don't know. All right, let's 320 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: hear it. 321 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: So I am after four kids, I have always been, 322 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: I think modified cry it out so I won't leave 323 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: them in perpetuity. Yeah, but I will do a timer 324 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: for a few minutes to see if my children starting 325 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it about I want to say, like five ish months. Okay, 326 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: can learn a little bit to put themselves to sleep, 327 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: to self soothe a little bit. Right now. There are 328 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: some people on the other end of the spectrum who 329 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: think this is like just monstrous behavior. Really okay, yes, 330 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and that my children like will not we'll have attachment 331 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: issues and all it. It's like, okay, I don't know. 332 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I keep them in my room till a four and 333 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: a half months old. I feel like we're pretty attached. 334 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: You're attached. I feel like you're attached. 335 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think I'm on the side that 336 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: thinks sleep hygiene, like decent sleep patterns and teaching them 337 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: are pretty good for both mom and baby, and particularly 338 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to go insane during the first year 339 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: of my child's life because that doesn't make me a 340 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: great parent for anyone, right, So yeah, I do a 341 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: little bit of like co sleeping and bassinette in my 342 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: room for four or five months, and then I do 343 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: a modified version of teaching them to sleep on their own. 344 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: So here's my question. Did you read any parenting books? 345 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Not really. I read Expecting Better About Pregnancy because I 346 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: really appreciated Emily Ooster's approach to treating pregnant women like 347 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: adults who can make decisions based on rational risk analysis. 348 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: And then after that I did on my third and 349 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: fourth kids have to brush up on sleep stuff, really, 350 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: and they were different kinds of kids, and that's what 351 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: it is. 352 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: The kid that different throws you off completely. Avands go 353 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: out the window, and. 354 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: I think my Force was probably my worst sleeper. But 355 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: they've all been pretty decent, which is why I have 356 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: four kids name right and so on. The last ones 357 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I did taking care of Babies program a little bit 358 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: to try to refresh my memory. She is a She's 359 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: an Instagram influencer taking care of c A r A babies, 360 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: and I find her to be responsible, middle of the 361 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: road maternal force who has a lot of experience and 362 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: just has practical tips for how you can get your 363 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: get your sanity back posts. 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: I only read Happiest Baby on the Block, and the 365 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: only thing I remember about it is start how you 366 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: want to go on, which is something that I live 367 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: by completely. Like I think a lot of people expect 368 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: their kids to change or they oh, Bill garad of 369 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: this and I won't have to do this anymore. I think, 370 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: you know, as the great philosopher Jay Z said, you 371 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 3: are who you are player, and you could try to change, 372 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: but that's just the top layer. You was who you 373 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: was when you got here. You was who you was 374 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: when you got here, and I think my kids just 375 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 3: stayed that way. I don't think we ever did cry 376 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: it out. We the middle child is our only was 377 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: our only bad sleeper, and maybe we'd pause before we'd 378 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: go into the room. I remember some other French parenting 379 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: guide that I maybe skimmed had a le pause thing 380 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: where you just wait a second and see if they 381 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: calm down on their own. Maybe we do that, I 382 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: don't remember ever, just like letting them cry it out. 383 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: I guess I just I didn't read enough parenting books 384 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: or enough parenting information. There was not you know, was 385 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: the era before Instagram, you know, influencing, So I didn't 386 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: really have the guidelines of what I was supposed to do, 387 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: and we just we did our. 388 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Best, you know. 389 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I sound like such an old lady. 390 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 4: Wow, Like my god, there's really there really is something 391 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: to taking a beat right just just like okay, like not, 392 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: because I do think you'll drive yourself pretty crazy if 393 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: every single whimper which does happen, Like there have been 394 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: times in my parenting journey when I was anxious and 395 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: I had the baby right next to me, and every 396 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: single thing I was up and like oh, and I 397 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 4: realized that that was not a healthy loop for me 398 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 4: to be in, and it wasn't help for me or 399 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: for the kid totally, and so I had to kind 400 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: of work myself out of that doing some modified behaviors. 401 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: So all right, I mean I like that question. 402 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Oh. 403 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: I think that that's the kind of thing that you 404 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: just have to kind of figure out for yourself what 405 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: works best for your family. But I love that the 406 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: sharing of information, that's what parenting supposed to be, like, 407 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: I think. 408 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 409 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: I saw a funny clip the other day that was 410 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: like Sam Altman the chat, Yeah, the open opening. I 411 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how anyone had a baby 412 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: before AI and it's like, well, for a long time, 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: we've done that. 414 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: Even before Google people had babies. I heard. 415 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: It's like welcome to natural selections. Sir, Like, yeah, all. 416 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: Right, well one friends, Yeah, I talk to your friends 417 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: about it for sure. 418 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: We'll do one more question. 419 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: Okay, besides moving, what is your advice for normal, sane 420 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: families who are trying to raise kids in New York City? 421 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, besides moving. 422 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: Besides moving, Look, I get moving as hard and all 423 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 3: of that. 424 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: I really do. 425 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: I understand that it's not possible for some people but 426 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: it has to. 427 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: Be considered, is what I would just say. 428 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: Maybe you don't you can't move like to Florida or something, 429 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: but maybe you move to Long Island. Maybe that's the 430 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: solution or the compromise that you make to keep a sane. 431 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 2: Childhood for your kids. 432 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 3: If not, I would say, find the enclaves in New 433 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: York City that are more sane. My part of South Brooklyn, 434 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: basically all of the neighborhoods south of, like Park Slope, 435 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: are fairly sane and just more normal, more places where 436 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: you won't see the kind of insanity that you'll see. 437 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: And what I love large to consider the transplant neighborhoods 438 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: of Northern Brooklyn. 439 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I live in kind of a I'm 440 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: in the mid Atlantic, I'm near DC, but not in 441 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: it sort of medium level of issues with weirdness, certainly 442 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: in the school system, the public school system, and that's 443 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: what that's one of the things that's so sad about 444 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: the public school systems and the teachers' unions and all 445 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: the weirdos taking over, is that you've stolen normal from 446 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: the Norman We could have had normal, We used to 447 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: have normal, And there's been a concerted effort to make 448 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: that not the norm anymore. So one of the things 449 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I do is that most of the things we do 450 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: have a faith component, because I find that extracurricular activities 451 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that are explicitly religious are what normy was in the. 452 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: Nineties, so true accepting Judaism, well, and this is the 453 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: problem right in Christianity that works and it does not 454 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 5: work as well. 455 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: You guys are others, and I envy you, But yeah, 456 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: I put my kids and stuff that feels very old 457 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: school because it's explicitly religious, but feels very old school. 458 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Feels kind of like nineteen ninety five to two thousand and. 459 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: Two, so those were the glory days. 460 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: So that's one of the ways. And I also we 461 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: make sure that not make sure, but we are surrounded 462 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: by a lot of military families as well, so that's 463 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: a much more normal demographic. 464 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: I would say that find your people, find the people 465 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: who think like you. Even if you guys are well 466 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: out numbered, at least you'll have each other for sanity. 467 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 3: At least you'll be able to look at each other 468 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: and say, this is crazy, right, what's going on is crazy? 469 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: Like not sweeping up homeless encampments and letting them. 470 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: Grow and fester. 471 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: That's crazy, right, Okay, good. I just needed a reality 472 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: check that this wasn't a normal thing to do. That's 473 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: the want to raise your kids. If you have to 474 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: raise your kids somewhere that people largely disagree with you, 475 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: find the people that do agree with you and form. 476 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 2: Your own community. 477 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: And that's that's really the only thing you can do. 478 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: Move to Staten Island. I mean, they're kind of still normal. 479 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good luck you guys. It's not easy. 480 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: You gotta make anyse decisions. It's not easy. 481 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: No, it's not easy. It's not easy. And I really 482 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: feel for the people who can't make a different decision. 483 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: And I really really understand you, and I. 484 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: Think about you. 485 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: I root for you. 486 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: I want things to improve for you. 487 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us on this very special Ask Us 488 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: Anything episode of Normally Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, and 489 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get in 490 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: touch with us at normally theepot at gmail dot com. 491 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, you act normally.