WEBVTT - Draft Show: Free Agency's Impact on the Draft 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:12.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:17.959 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:22.080 incenter news and traft analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:28.800 of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. And now 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:35.159 your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Cavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:40.760 David Hellman. It is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.559 presented by Miller White as we welcome you into the 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.920 Star in Frisco and the s WBC studios. No David 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.000 Hellman today, No Jeff Cavanaugh as well. It is Brian 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.800 brought us and myself, Kyle Yeoman's trying to hold it 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.560 down here from the Star and what is one of 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.560 the more crazy weeks that I can remember covering this branchise. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:06.119 It is a happy saint. Patrick's happy as well. Um yeah, 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.039 and I'm on the other end of it two on 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.840 one oh five three the fan with our show and 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.800 it's been a roller coaster ride. And I you know, 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.399 my experience of being a former scout and working in 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.240 the league and having friends that still do this in 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.000 the league. You know, the the emotions that you feel 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.199 at this time when you feel like you have something 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.280 done when it doesn't work out the one you just 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.640 missed on, you know, the one you got. I mean, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.000 it is a it's a very very difficult time because 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.120 you kind of you lay out your plan for how 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.640 you want to build your team, you know, before the draft, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.319 and if you could supplement it with a couple of 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.520 players that can keep you from having to focus so 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.760 much on the draft, it sure takes a lot of 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.360 pressure off you. And this team is you know, last 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.240 year did a really nice job with free agency. They'll 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.720 be it week two, week three free agency, but they 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.160 had a good plan, they got some good they got 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.000 some good play the guys that they got, and you know, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.160 to miss out on signing one of their own, you know, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.120 is a little bit of a kick in the gut. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:08.600 But they you know, you don't put your head in 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.320 the sand and you go try and figure out some things. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.000 And that's what we're going to do throughout the course 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.960 of this show is look at alternative moves of action 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.720 for this Cowboys team. Where do they go next? Is 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.800 it possible to replace a guy like Randy Gregory? And 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.000 we'll get into that here in a couple of seconds, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.320 is it possible to replace him in the NFL draft. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.560 But let's talk about that situation, because when we were 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.320 recording on Tuesday, we were under the impression that Randy 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.040 Gregory was going to have a star on the side 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.520 of his Yes, we were. We thought that was done. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.040 It was already agreed to terms. He felt like he 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.519 was back. And then in the thirty minutes after the 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.160 show it ended on Tuesday, was when the news came 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.200 out that he had had a rocky ending, no pun 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:52.320 intended with Dallas going to Denver, right, and he agrees 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.960 to a five year deal there. So what is your 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.320 initial reaction to that or what was your initial reaction? Yeah, 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.919 trying to be really fair because the owner and general 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.840 manager one day reminded me in a hallway. He goes, hey, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.520 you're kicking my ass, but you're fair about it, and 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.440 so I continue to kick his ass, but I try 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.600 to be fair about it. And you know that My 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.920 reaction was, there's two sides of the story. Now, if 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.160 you believe what you know, this is a Denver based agent. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.240 He has ties with the Broncos. I talk to my 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.600 folks at the Broncos. They're super super happy about having 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.640 Randy Gregory that that's number one in their mind. And so, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.400 you know, if you're an agent and you have a 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.920 client that somebody really really wants and you're based in 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.240 that city, you can deliver players. You know, you can try. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.360 I think I think that his group was looking for 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.480 they agreed to the deal, then all of a sudden, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.880 it's like, well, maybe I need to get my client 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.320 here closer to where I can watch him a little bit, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.800 you know, And I think that's where you start to 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.560 find Okay, well maybe this language isn't right, and maybe 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.040 that language isn't right, And so I've tried to get 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.320 both sides of the story. The agent says there's language 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.080 that they didn't like. The Cowboys said there was language 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.600 that we always use. So it's somebody is right here, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.600 you know, and a lot of I know a lot 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.320 of agents and player personal guys I've talked around the 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.120 league says this agent is kind of off at a 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.320 little bit that he's not that's dealing with him is 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.000 never a good thing, and you know, and unfortunate for Randy. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.400 I feel like that he wanted to be here in Dallas, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.359 I think he was excited about the opportunity of, you know, 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.200 he's got family and stuff here that he's really he's 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.400 into and now it's you know, that situation where he's 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.479 going to have to move to Colorado and then Okay, 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.719 how much you're really going to get to see your family. Sure, 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.440 he's got millions of dollars now he can charter planes 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.680 or get plane tickets or whatever he needs to do. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.080 But this place was really his home, and you know, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.359 and I think the owner, Um, I think the owner 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.600 did everything he could for him. I think Randy went 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.960 through some terrible stuff with what the league did to him. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.080 So there was a there was a relationship there, and 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.320 and the fact that he that it ended the way 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.159 it did. I think both sides are to blame. Maybe 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.640 the Cowboys negotiated a little with hard tactics or you 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.760 know up until what we you know, until the signing period, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.320 and maybe the agents just said, listen, I'm I'm a 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.960 I'm a Denver base agent. You know, getting a player 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.120 that the Broncos like is a feather in my cap. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.560 So I think there's a couple of factors really rolling 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.640 on here, man, And it could be both sides to blame, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.919 and I think to a certain exteps it is both 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.480 sides to blame because there's always two stories to somebody's 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.840 right here, Yeah, somebody's right and and the Cowboys will 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.920 tell you that they never had a chance to remove 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.840 the provision or even talk about that. The agent will 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.000 say that they put the provision in there on them 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.520 and they didn't say anything about it. But if you 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.880 look at some of the common contracts they've had or 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.920 the contracts in the past, Randy Gregory's contract has that provision, 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.320 So maybe they wanted to remove but I don't feel 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.919 like the Cowboys were ever given the opportunity to remove it. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.320 That's what they're saying. The agents say, no, no, no, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.800 the Cowboys had a chance. We never got to talk 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.279 to him about it. So it is. It's it's a 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.760 very very tough situation here. I think Randy and Randy 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.720 Gregory is in the middle of it. Yep. And unfortunately 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.320 though he moves on and the Dallas Cowboys do have 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.120 some a lot of money that they earmarked for him, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.400 that is, you know, available now to go and try 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.240 and fix some things. Very happy for Randy Gregory. Yeah, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.200 let's put that out there. Everybody here, I think is 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.240 happy for Randy Gregory to get the money he did 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.640 to get to contract and the opportunity that he has 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.599 to finally make that NFL money unlike he did early 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.440 in his career. But it is, it puts the Cowboys 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.960 in a tough situation. It does. Here's where they have 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.599 to respond, and at least to this point, they haven't 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.960 really responded with anything. It looked like there were names 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.080 out there. Von Miller of course, was being thrown around. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.800 He signs a deal with the Buffalo Bills. Then you've 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.760 got Chandler Jones going to the Raiders. They had names 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.320 to potentially replace Gregory. Zadarius Smith, Darius Smith. Yeah, you 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.239 had to figure out out the back with Zadarius Smith. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.680 And I talked to people with the Packers, like literally 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.120 minutes before he signed back with the Ravens. He was like, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.200 I was saying, Hey, how good is this back? And 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.200 because you know, we were starting to hear reports that 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.920 the Cowboys were involved, Well, the Cowboys really never got involved. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.720 I mean, this guy was going back to the Ravens. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.640 But everything that Green Bay, my guys tell me the 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.120 back is fine. He's ready to play so, I mean, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.280 I was thinking they were going to be questions about that, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.320 but yeah, it went really really fast. And the and 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.120 the problem is when you're thinking about the Cowboys, you're thinking, well, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.280 they're in, but they're really not in. You know, they're there. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.280 They talk due diligences, the word that's kind of bad. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.720 They talk about being in on deals and they're really 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.360 not in on deals. And with that being said, now 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.360 you have to look at maybe back end edge rushers, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.920 the guys that aren't the top of the market because 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.920 pretty much all those guys are off the board with 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.720 the exception and maybe a Bobby Wagner there. I wouldn't 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.000 even really classify him as a pure edge rusher, but 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.480 maybe the Bobby Wagner guy that you could add to 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.520 the second level of the defense is still around. Yeah, however, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.720 edge rusher may be where we talk about early in 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.640 the draft. It doesn't have to be at twenty four, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.680 but early on. Is it possible, first off, just to 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.280 get this out of the way, to replace the production 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.920 of Randy Gregory early in this draft class, because kind 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.280 of doesn't look like it at least if you're not outside, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.880 if you're outside of the top ten fifteen picks. Yeah, 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.960 I think that, you know, depending on how this draft falls, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.920 and you know, I think we've done a really good 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.280 job so far of kind of identifying the top guys. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.760 I think whoever the Cowboys take at twenty four, I 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.400 think there's gonna be a really good name there. It 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.160 might be a player that has a little bit of 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.360 an efficiency, or is not the tallest or not the 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.160 longest star, not the you know, doesn't have the longest arms, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.560 but it's a really really good player. I think you 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:54.360 can eliminate Thibodeaux, Hutchinson. I think you can eliminate Walker, Thibodeaux, Oregon, Hutchinson, Michigan, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.440 Walker Georgia. I think are those are your top three 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.280 that to me, I think you can eliminate just watching 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.400 how this thing might fall. Now we're talking about the 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:08.240 karloftis from Pence from Purdue, Jermaine Johnson from Florida State, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.680 a job Bo from Michigan. I would even uh maffe 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.320 from from Minnesota. I wouldn't even consider a guy that 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.920 These are guys that I personally like, I you know, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.480 I those would be the guys, and then you know, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.040 you get into the others that they might you know, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.840 they might like Drake Jackson more than me, or you know, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.199 they might like these these guys. So I just kind 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.240 of feel like though that at twenty four, you know, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.680 the guy that I would really really like out of 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.840 all that would be karloftis from from Purdue. I think 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.280 he could fill that role for you of of of 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.600 you know with Randy with the pressures, you know, I 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.000 think he I think he plays the run well enough. Um, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.280 you know, there's just a lot of positive things about him. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.079 Jermaine Johnson. If you talk to the scouts around the 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.360 league about Jermaine Johnson, they're kind of saying that the 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.679 media scouts have him higher than a lot of teams 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.240 are sure, So we'll see how that plays out. The 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.360 thing with a Jobo at Michigan, and I don't know 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.319 how you feel about this. I think he's the one 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.040 that has the biggest upside. I think the rawness of him, though, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.440 is a little bit scary to me. No, I'm right 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.240 there with you. I have him as the bendy athletic. Yeah. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.920 Other quote unquote edge rusher from Michigan because Aidan Hutchinson 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.080 ate up a lot of those double teams and it 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.719 left a Jabo open. We talked about this with Dame 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.000 Brugler at the Combine too, But you're right, he's very raw. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.960 There's a lot you could add to his game, but 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.720 the traits are all there for a Jobo. I think 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.280 ultimately he could be that next level edge rusher, but 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.960 it wouldn't be immediately. That's the only thing. Yeah, you know, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.000 I mean, you're gonna want somebody that you can plug 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.280 and play. And then the determination is with this draft 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:46.880 and if you like I say, if you get a 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.640 shot at draft and Walker from from Georgia, I mean, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.200 just hand that card in, let's go. Kind I'm right 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.560 there with you. But that's you know, but that's that's 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.600 kind of where it is on the defensive end. I 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.080 know that some people, and this is just something that 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.000 I'm hearing you because of Daniel Hunter being at Minnesota. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.080 You know, they have a roster bonus that they have 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.640 to come up with a guaranteed part of his contract. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.520 I don't know exactly the number on it. I need 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.720 to know that before my show today. But there's people 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.520 I asked around the league. I said, what do you 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.880 give up for Daniel Hunter? Who was an established pass 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.880 rusher and you talk about if he was an available, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.439 you would talk about him in that group with the 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.880 von Miller's and Chandler Jones and guys like that. And 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.440 everybody seems to think I talked to three teams this 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.079 morning that third round compensation would be what you would 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.920 consider doing. And I'm like, going, okay, So it's not 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.120 a one or two, it's a it's actually could be 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.760 a three. And so you know, you've got all these 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.080 multiple fives, you've got a third. You know, if you 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.440 really wanted to go do this and you wanted to 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.400 fix this pass rush situation, you go trade for him 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.479 and then figure out a way to redo the contract. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.600 That's what can you move. Yeah, make a move that way. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.160 So there's options for them there if they want to 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.120 go big time and swing for the fin you know, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.599 give up a three. You could take all those fives, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.160 move those fives back up into the third round if 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.360 you want to, if you were worried about losing your three. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.319 But man, you get an established player, it would take 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.480 a lot of pressure off them having to hope that 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.760 if Karloftus is there or Johnson's there, one of those 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.559 guys there. That kind of it kind of could focus 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.680 him on some of these other positions, whether it's the 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.760 linebacker or the receiver or one of those interior offensive lineman. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.600 Eighteen million dollars is the bonus. The roster bonus vests 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.920 on Sunday for Minnesota. And that's a lot of money 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.160 to try and move around for a team that claims 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.720 that they don't have a ton of money to work with. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.400 But see that's the problem though. I think with the Cowboys, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.120 I mean you have to kind of figure out, Okay, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.640 what were you willing to give Randy? Were you ever 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.360 willing to do that with Von Miller? It doesn't appear 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.120 so Chandler Jones, I mean, you know, to me, you 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.800 go get you go get a Daniel Hunter. And people 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.560 are going to be critical of me again because he's LSU. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.079 I know. I'm just saying, just watch can play at Minnesota. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.160 Look at the sack numbers at Minnesota, look at the pressures. Yeah, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.400 he was Nick dub last year. But you know, you 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.120 could go get a guy like that if you if 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.640 you're telling me I could sacrifice the third, I'll figure 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.120 out the money because there's there's nobody on that board, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.439 you know. I remember, I remember being in Philadelphia and 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.040 work in the nineteen ninety eight draft with Michael Lombardi 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.920 and we had second round pick, and Hugh Douglas was 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.040 at the Jets, and Hugh was a really a good 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.120 player coming out of college. Jets draft him in the 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.959 first round. Parcels wants to get rid of him. Mike 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.200 Lombardi makes a deal because he goes, hey, man, I 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.480 could get Hugh Douglas for a second round pick. And 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.880 I'm looking at my board. I go, Mike, there's nobody 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.400 on that board in the second round. It's better than 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.640 Hugh Douglas. You know. Tell me, tell me on your 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.080 board who's better at the third round than to Neil Hunter. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.560 If you could pull that deal, you know, and you 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.160 get that pass Rusher. So I'm all four deal like that. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.800 I don't know necessary if the Cowboys would do something, 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.599 but I think that our show today is talking about options, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.000 that's an option I would surely consider. I agree completely. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.520 And you're looking at third round names like a maybe 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.720 a Cameron Thomas san Diego State, Arnold Evacadie from Penn State. Exactly, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.319 You're not You're not going to get a Daniel Hunter 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.280 in the third round. At least that's gonna come in 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.520 and look yeah, I mean, I mean there's all these 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.320 guys to me that you know, if you're gonna if 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.440 you're gonna try and grab a third round defensive end, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.360 I think you might be in a little bit of 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.440 a trouble there. So based off of what you're saying, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.480 four edge rushers that could plug and play, I think, well, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.120 I think so, I mean to me, I and I 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.320 know people have him in different order. I really do 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.480 like Thibadeau. I like Hutchinson a lot. I mean, Walker 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.080 has elevated himself, and not just because of the workout. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.080 You could watch him play end, you could watch him 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.840 play in defensive tackle. You know, as far as when 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.440 they go nickel stuff. I mean, it's a long bindy guys, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.240 you like to say, and you know with Karloftis, I 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.920 mean that guy's got some really some quality traits too. Johnson, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.320 like I say, people will have Johnson in there as well. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.120 I just kind of feel like that. Now, those four 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.480 guys I mentioned, and then the second round from there, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.280 I'm right there with your four first round grades. Carlotta 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.920 is being the fourth of those. Now, how much do 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.120 you play in whenever you're looking at these prospects and 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.720 you're thinking for the Cowboys specifically. I know we're not 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.720 just a Cowboys show. We'd right to talk about the 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.960 prospects too, so we can kind of relay this outside 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.440 of that. How much do you play in the factor 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.320 of fit with three four four three? I don't. Yeah, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.080 it does. It's not as much as he used to, 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.800 not at all know because what happened, what was just 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.960 proven this past year with Dan Quinn is the fact 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.880 that he used the linebackers one of his best pass rushers. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.040 So I mean that that I think that to me, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.520 it's about adaptability. It's about that, you know, with I 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.640 mean we we all would Michael Parsons was a nice pick, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:47.160 but Micah Parsons became a rare pick when he became 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.800 a pass rusher. And I don't think there were many 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.160 draft shows where we came on and we're talking about 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.840 Micah Parsons as being this rare pass rusher now. So 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.080 it's about adaptability. It's almost some at times, out of 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:04.120 necessity and maybe desperation, that you try things and you're like, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.360 my god, that thing just worked out Week two against 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.960 LA Yeah, that was desperation. You didn't have Brandy, you 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.720 didn't have DeMarcus Lawrence, didn't have anything. You had to 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.440 have Micah, Yeah, exactly. And once he once we all 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.840 figured out that he could rush the pass or then 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.760 he becomes the defensive player of the year kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, ultimately. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.480 And by the way, the Cowboys, according to Todd Archer 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.760 seventeen minutes ago, saying they are closing in on a 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.640 deal to retain defensive Endoorance Armstrong. Yeah, and you knew 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.560 that was going to happen as soon as Randy was 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.080 out the door. Yeah, the Lord's Armstrong is gonna happen. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.760 Maybe you get Brett Urban back. Maybe you know, they'll 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.520 have a flurry of these signings now that are kind 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.520 of you know, and will they go after a guy 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.880 like Hunter and no, we but we have to talk 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.960 about it. Sure, you know, you have to say okay, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.400 and then when he ends up somewhere else, then we're 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.400 all going to look at each other like, okay, well 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.520 why not. And you know that's but I we knew this. 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.640 You're gonna get all the flurry of those signings. Hopefully 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.200 you'll you know, hopefully they'll get cursed done, you know, 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:00.920 and then like a say, you'll have two or three 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.600 other ones that should fall into place. Yeah, it's how 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.040 did they use the money? How do they respond after 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.600 Randy put them in a tough spot? Ultimately the Randy 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.679 Gregory's signing. Going into that, you felt like this offseason 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.520 was heading in the right direction. I was. I went 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.600 on Twitter and gave the front office credit for how 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.760 they handled tank steal and then how they got Randy done, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.240 and then everybody's zombie now by well that aged well, 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.480 and that's but that's you know, I was the nature 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.160 of the league. Yeah, it's the nature of the league. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.640 You know. You don't feel like you're going to sign 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.159 a guy then lose a guy that That wasn't going 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.280 to be the case now and up until the Randy 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.199 debacle happened, really the only knock in the off season 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.240 was the Amari Cooper and the trade there. And we 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.280 talked about that a lot on Tuesday, and they'd had enough. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.080 They'd moved on from a market and you know, and 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.480 that's fine. They got the compensation they wanted, they got 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.920 the contract off the books, and so they've got themselves 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.720 to space and now you know, now go figure out 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.200 what's going on at wide receiver. You know, make sure 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.120 that Michael Gallup gets as completely as healthy as you can. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.399 Britt Brown and these guys do a hell of a 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.000 job happen those ACL injuries. I have a feeling this 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.560 kit will be as good as new before the season starts. 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