1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: She basically told me all the reasons why it wouldn't 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: work with me. Singular talk show host don't typically do well, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: and you know they want younger, And I said, but 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: I am a comic like I can make magic where 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: there is none. 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to off the cup my personal anti anxiety antidote. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: As many of you know, I've had a varied media 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: career where I've been able to play in a number 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: of sandboxes, and one of them was The View. I 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: have a relationship with a View that is mixed, mixed, 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: we'll say mixed. I have some wonderful memories of guest 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: hosting the View and in fact auditioning to be a 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: permanent host on the View. And I have some terrible 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: memories of guest hosting the View and auditioning to be 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: on the View. 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: It's not always a fun place to be. 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: But I have to say today's guest is one of 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: the bright spots for me over the many times that 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: I did it. She was always so kind, so genuine, 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: so warm, so embracing lifting She's also one of the 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: funniest people I know. She can make me laugh when 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: I least expect it, and in a way that I'm 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: not expecting it, and I know that's why people love 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: watching her every day now, and I'm so glad they 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: get to. She's an actress, a comedian, and author, a podcaster, 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: the Emmy Award winning future Hollywood Walk of Fame Star 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: winner for the Class of twenty twenty five Daytime's Funniest 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: host Sherry Shephard, Welcome to Off the Cup. 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad to be here. We've been trying 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: to get this hook this up for the longest. 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: It's a it's been a busy year, but I'm so 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: glad we finally got this. Got me on the books. 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: I just adore you. And you know what I mean 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: about the view. You know what I'm talking about. 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, I understand. You know, you come on there and. 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: As a guest host, it's a whole different vibe and 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you're you know, you got these women who have their 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: own they get the thing, and you're coming in with 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: a different opinion. Yeah, and trying to be heard. Yeah, 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's a lot. 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: It's a lot, and I don't want to tell horror 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: story is I have them. But I also just I 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: just love getting to work with nice women like you. 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: I'll focus on the positive you. Jenny McCarthy was always 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: so great. 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: I had organ too. 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: But can I just say, I'm so glad you got 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: out and got your own spot because you deserve it. 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: Thank you, and you are so at home on the 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: Scherry Show. It's for me. 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: It feels like it's one hundred percent you were meant 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, do you feel that way right now? 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: Like I am where I. 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: Need to be. I am where I need to be, 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: and this is what for me. 56 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I've always wanted my own talk show, so this is 57 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: what I envision what I am doing right now now. 58 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 3: The View was a great. 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Platform for me. Barbara Walters was a wonderful mentor who 60 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: helped me find my voice so that I could, you know, 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: take that over here to my show and you know, 62 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: they all the ladies were great and that was a 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: great experience. 64 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: But this is for Sherry. 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: That was I was just I was one of many posts, 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, for that season. 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: That's seven years all you. This is all me you, 68 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: and what I love is it's all of you. 69 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: It's your funny side, which obviously you lead with because 70 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: you're so funny you, but it's your heart. 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: It's your family. 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: It's all the things about you that you get to 73 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: do on this show. 74 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: It's so funny because when I do the view, I 75 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: would always have a story about. 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 3: My son Jeffrey. 77 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I did it from the time he was two years 78 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: old up until he was about ten, I think, and 79 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I always. 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: Had a story. 81 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: And I remember Barbara Walter said to me one day 82 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: when another Jeffrey story, and I said, Barbara, he's two 83 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: years old, Like, I will always have a story about Jeffrey. 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: And she would say her thing was who cares in 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Wyoming or something like that, and I was and I 86 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: would say, Barbara, anybody who's a single mom, who is 87 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: a child cares about. Like if I could get pregnant 88 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: right now, See, my ratings would go through the roofs. 89 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Not to mention because I'm at this age where I 90 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: don't even have my uterus anymore, but you want to 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: see the goodness of God. If I got pregnant now 92 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: and my ratings, I would have jokes for days about me. 93 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: I would love to have a baby right now. For 94 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: this show, they asked me all the time, Sherry, are 95 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: you thinking about fertility adoption? 96 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, no, but it would be great. 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: People love to hear about kids. Let me tell you, 98 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: I'd beat every talk show. 99 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I'd beat number one having kids at this dag on age, 100 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: I want to be Holder take where holda left off? 101 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm older than Holder. I think give me a baby girl, 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: so or not a divorce? 103 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I don't think you need much help. The 104 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: show is going so well. You're into three seasons now, 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: I feel like just getting started. 106 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: Do you do you hope this goes on forever? I do. 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: I love what I do so much, and I love 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: that I'm able to give people a platform, you know, 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to come and talk like I'm going through heavy menopause, 110 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, I know that that's 111 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: something my audience can relate to. I love being able 112 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: to say to a doctor that I follow on social media. 113 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: Can you please come and talk to my audience like that, 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, being able to do that kind of thing. 115 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: And I think now more than ever, people need laughter. 116 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure. 117 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up, though, because I'm 118 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: in whatever is before menopause. 119 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: Premenopause, Harry, menopause, Harry, whatever it is, I'm in it. 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm in it. I'm in it. 121 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm mad because my girlfriends did not prepare me. 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: Nobody talks about it. And finally one. 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: Of them did say something that was like, oh, you know, 124 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: I have this whatever it was, and I was like, 125 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: oh my god, me too, and she goes, yeah, this 126 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: is what it is, and I was like, oh my god, 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: like yeah, I wish people talked more openly about it, 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: because I don't know why we go through this as women, 129 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: totally in the dark, and I have to go on 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: like TikTok to find out what's happening to my body exactly. 131 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: I'm ordering everything on Instagram, you know, to help the 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: hot flashes. And we've had two people on to talk about, 133 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: you're not crazy. This is there's seventy signs of menopause 134 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: and perimenopause, and this is what you can do. 135 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: I found out from one of the doctors. 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: If I eat too much sugar, it like I explode 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: with heat. We showed a video of a woman who 138 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: had a hot flash. 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: She was bald, steam was coming out of her head. 140 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: Oh it was the cold. 141 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: It was cold and you can see the steam and 142 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: it's like our audience appreciates that, and I like, girl, 143 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: my tooth came out. 144 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: My tooth came out, it cracked and came. 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I lost my side tooth, and I was just like, 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: how the heck dim I lose my side tooth? I fly, 147 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: I brush, And I found out that when as we 148 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: go through menopause and lose bone density, so your teeth 149 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: can get loose. All my hopes, my dreams, everything my 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: desires have went through my side to the air. 151 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: Girl so well. 152 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many weird little things, like apparently 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: your fingers itching is a sign of this perimenopause, and 154 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: I have very itchy fingers, And yes, weird stuff with 155 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: your skin and with your hair and your nails, Like 156 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: we should really normalize these conversations. 157 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you're talking about them. 158 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I love being able to have a show. 159 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, your fingers itch like the palm of my hand. 160 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: I said, either it's an old wife's self. Either I'm 161 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: getting money or I got a rash. 162 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 163 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: What's going on behind my knees is itching the back 164 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: of my arms. There is not enough jurgins I can 165 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: put on my body. Oh for whatever itchiness is happening. 166 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: And I even asked the lady she came to my show, 167 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: I said, when is the Sex Drive gonna come back? 168 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: That's what I need to know. Yes, because this is ridiculous. 169 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm single. This is ridiculous because my calling card is 170 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: I can't get pregnant. So hey, I'm gone. I'm the 171 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: one as you won't. I'm the one that you won't. Perfection. 172 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: But it's really it's really great to have a talk 173 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: show and. 174 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: See where I can do that and I can have fun, 175 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: and I can have a Linny Kravitz come on and 176 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: I've crushing on him and he wants to play with me, 177 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: so I broke up with him on TV. 178 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: I always wanted to do that kind of thing. Yeah, 179 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: it's really fun. 180 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you I worked at a local Fox 181 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: station in Philadelphia this year to shoot an election show, 182 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: and so your show was always on in my office, 183 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: and even though I. 184 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: Know you, it was so fun to watch you in 185 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: your element. 186 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: One of the things I noticed is that you don't 187 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: always go for the obvious joke. I can tell you 188 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: work on your jokes. You'll bring up a topic. I 189 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: think I know where you're going to go with it. 190 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: I think I know where the punchline's going to be, 191 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: but it's you work around you go somewhere else, Like 192 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: how important is the joke to you in this talk show? 193 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's really important. I want to bring a different 194 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: kind of perspective to it. I'm the only person in 195 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the talk show space that does a monologue. Ellen used 196 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: to do it, and I loved when Ellen did it, 197 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: and I kind of took up that mantle and continued it. 198 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: So I like to go different places where you might 199 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: not think I'm going to go because I think that 200 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: it's boring. 201 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: So I'd like to take it. But that's how it is, 202 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: you know, doing stand up. 203 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: You know, to have a successful stand up career, you 204 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: got to go where you a person doesn't think you're 205 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: going to go. Sure, and you know I applied that 206 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: on my show also. I finally, you know, we got 207 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: the budget. They gave me a comedy producer who I 208 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: can say, Okay, this is where I'm going. But I've 209 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: talked about this before. Can you think of another way 210 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: around this that we can? You know that we can 211 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: get to this joke? 212 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: So helpful. 213 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: So it helps to have other wo and their women 214 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: who you know, help me in there. So we work 215 00:09:58,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: an hour. 216 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: Well, I just think in the talk format sometimes even 217 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: if you're coming from comedy, you can sort of have 218 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: this idea that, well, I'm just going to go and 219 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: talk and it's just going to be a conversation, and 220 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: that's part of it. But for it to really sing 221 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: and really work and really connect, it has to be produced. 222 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: It has to be well. 223 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: Thought out, and you your joke construction. It's so obvious 224 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: that you think about it and you're not just sitting 225 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: down and contemplating something for the first time in front 226 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: of your audience. 227 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: You can see. 228 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: I don't mean you can see it like you can 229 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: see how hard you're working, but you can just tell 230 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: because the payoff is so good. 231 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, It's like it takes us an hour to 232 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: come up with fourteen minutes of topics. So I absolutely 233 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: get what you're saying. You can see it because I 234 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: make it look effortless, totally very hard work. 235 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: I think I worked on something. 236 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: Zoe Kravitz broke up with Channing Tatum, and you know, 237 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: everybody knows I like Lenny, so they knew I was 238 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: going to go there. 239 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: But one of my comedy producers said, why. 240 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Do not you know you called Zoe and all you 241 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: could hear were cries of why why that was me? 242 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: Zoeay's fine, that was me, you know and I she 243 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: gave me that joke and I said that nobody's gonna 244 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: expect that, you know it, zoeways. 245 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: Fine, that was me. And so it's things like that. 246 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, throw that, throw that punchline in there, 247 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: because it's great. And then I want to talk about 248 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: what you know, Lenny that I wanted to go And 249 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: so I love the I love the art of putting 250 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: it together. Yeah, putting it together. Yeah, because I know 251 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: that the audience if I'm on the floor cracking up, 252 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm like my audience at home, who's ironing clothes, are cooking, 253 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna love it. 254 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: Totally. No, yeah, totally. 255 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: This this space is not for everyone. I don't have 256 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: to tell you a lot of people have tried it 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: and failed. A lot of very smart, talented people, yeah, 258 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: have tried it and failed. So I mean you were 259 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: you were for sure born for this. I want to 260 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: talk about your whole career, but first I always like 261 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: to ask what kind of kid were you? 262 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: Wow? 263 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: I was the kid who always got the report card 264 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: that said Sherry is so sweet, but she just talks 265 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: too much. She is the class clown. Except that was 266 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: not That was not celebrated in my home. You don't 267 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: come home with a report card that said you had 268 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: a class clown, that you talk too much. That was 269 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna get a whooping for that. 270 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because I said to my dad, 271 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: did you ever think I was gonna be making money? 272 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: He goes, no, not at all. But I was that girl. 273 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: I love making people happy. I love we had. 274 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: It, and so I was, but I was shy. I would. 275 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I just I love you know, talking at school. I 276 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: love we were put on like variety shows for my 277 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: family and I love making them laugh, to see my 278 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: grandmother smile or you know, it just made me happy. 279 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: So I was, you know, I just I like people. Yeah. 280 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: And so you grew up in Chicago. You have siblings, right, 281 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: two sisters? 282 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: Were you? Did you feel like you were competing for 283 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: attention of her? Now I got in trouble all the time. 284 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Like my whole family's like, we can't believe that this 285 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: the Sherry is a success like this because we thought 286 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: she would be the They thought I would be the 287 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: one in jail, girl, because as I got into my 288 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: teenage years. 289 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: I was hot too trot. 290 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, you know, I did not think it 291 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: would be What did you ask me, girl? When to 292 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: another menopause staying at Foggy Brother, What did you ask me? 293 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Did you feel like you had to compete for attention? No, 294 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: because because I was always I never, as a matter 295 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: of fact, attention found you. Attention just found me. Why 296 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: did you do that? Why? I don't know. It just happened. 297 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea. You have no idea. I 298 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: have no idea. 299 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Mama, Well were you funny? Did you make people laugh? 300 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I did? I used to my family. 301 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: We used to have, like the Shepherd family would have 302 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: variety shows, and I always won the little contest they 303 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, there's they all have stories about how it 304 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: would make them laugh. 305 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: But I just also always I get in trouble a 306 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: lot because I would attention at school. 307 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: I was good, I had good grades, but I just 308 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: wanted to have fun. 309 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 310 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and then your first TV gag was a 311 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 2: blessing and a curse. You you star in a sitcom 312 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Claig Hornet, Yes, and your agent tells you quit your 313 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: day job as a legal secretary because presumablade, you're you're 314 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: gonna be a big star, but the show gets canceled 315 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: and you lose everything. 316 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Girl, I had no idea how this Hollywood thing worked. 317 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: I auditioned for this show. 318 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: I got it. This is how bad it was. 319 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: The show would send you the check and then you 320 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: cut the commission checks. They sent me my first check 321 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: because I think the first sitcom you it was seventy 322 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a week. They gave me that check. 323 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: I taped it to the wall. My family didn't teach 324 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: me nothing about investing in stocks and real estate. Like 325 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to open up a lemonade stand and my 326 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: mother said it had a whole like thinking we pour, 327 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: oh no, no, you're not gonna no, no, no, sir, 328 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: you're not selling lemonade. 329 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: Half people think we I can't take care of our children. 330 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, they didn't teach me about entrepreneurialship and 331 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: so I didn't know. I'll taped the check up to 332 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: the wall, and my agents called and said, did. 333 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: You get paid? And I go, yeah, I keep I'm 334 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: taping the checks up to the wall. That's what I did. 335 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: So it was yeah, it was when it got canceled. 336 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: I was devastated. I had to move out of my apartment. 337 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like I had a penan house. I 338 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: had an apartment. I had a studio for three fifty. 339 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: I was able to move into a one bedroom for 340 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: five fifty a month. 341 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: That same apartment. 342 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Now, if you go through in Hollywood, it's twenty five 343 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. I paid five fifty and I moved into 344 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the Jungle, which is the area of La. 345 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: You remember training day with Denzel Washington. 346 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, right in there, that's called the Jungle, and it 347 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: was a very bad part of LA and I lived 348 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: over there on my girlfriend's couch for almost three years. 349 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: I stayed on the couch and she was a phone 350 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: sex operator and a psychic, so that I was okay 351 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: being a psychic because she tell everybody what she wanted 352 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: to hear. But that phone sex operator that messed with that. 353 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: I never got sleep. She never she didn't try to 354 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: pull you into either of those businesses. 355 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: No, she didn't, And I couldn't have done it anyway. 356 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I came from a real strict religion. 357 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,119 Speaker 1: I was so shy. I couldn't do phone sex operating. 358 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: I was gone at nighttime because I was doing stand up, 359 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: But she made her most money at like six in 360 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: the morning and the longing. 361 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: You keep these people on the phone with. 362 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: The wildest fetishes, the great, the nasty stuff. That's how 363 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: you made your money. You had to keep them on 364 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the phone. You remember all the phone you could get 365 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: on the back of the magazines. 366 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: And she made so much money. 367 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Well, I always tell people coming up in the news, 368 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: never settle in. Always have a few irons in the fire. 369 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: I have four jobs at this moment, because you just 370 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: never know when you know you're gonna lose it, and 371 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: there are lean years in a media career. You just 372 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: have to prepare for them. 373 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that is the thing. I've always had more than 375 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: one job. Even with the talk show. People think that 376 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: the talk show ends and I just go home. No, 377 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: I just did a commercial. I represent the people. I 378 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: have my glucose monitor on my arm, you know, and 379 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: I represent them. So we had to go film a 380 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: commercial and then I do stand up. I have a 381 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: comedy tour, so I do stand up. I'm working on 382 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: a children's book, you know I do. I come from 383 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: my family. We're hustlers, Like, we don't just sit and 384 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: wait for stuff to come. And I've always I've even 385 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: got on my people. I said, you know, this is 386 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: great that I have this talk show and it's successful. 387 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: But I operate like they could come to me any 388 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: day and go, you know what, right, you know we 389 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: got we got somebody, just somebody. Laverne Cox is gonna 390 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: take your place. 391 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: It just anybody. 392 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: So I always I'm always like, I keep up my 393 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: acting skills. I did a movie over the summer with 394 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: Taraji p Henson and Tianna Taylor, So I'm like you, 395 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: and see I always have a job. 396 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: It's like you, yeah, because. 397 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: I always have the fear because I've worked really hard 398 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: to get work. Yeah I am, you know, And I 399 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: always have a fear that it's going to fall out 400 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: from under me. And sometimes sometimes it has shows come 401 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: and go, and yeah, the environment changes. So I'm always 402 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: paranoid and therefore keeping things going. But I find like 403 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: most successful people are hustlers, and even when they get 404 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: to a place where some people would decide to be comfortable, 405 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: the hustler does not ever get comfortable. 406 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I never get comfortable even as an actress. Do 407 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: you know me. 408 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: Do you know how many pilots I've done, which is 409 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: they make the first episode and try to see if 410 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: the network will pick it up. I've done so many 411 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: pilots I've been. 412 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: On you know. 413 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I did Suddenly Susan Back with Brickshields and Kathy Griffin 414 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: and the whole season. 415 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: I bought a house Girl. It was my very first house. 416 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not sleeping on nobody's couch no more. Yeah, 417 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: And I bought a house. I close on my house 418 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: and Brickshields came and she goes, yeah, I need to 419 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: talk to you. They're canceling the show. And I go, 420 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: how am I supposed to pay my mortgage? And she's like, 421 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't no, but let me tell you. I didn't 422 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: lose my house. My residuals, which is why the actors 423 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: went on strike. My residuals helped pay the mortgage. And 424 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: I started doing stand up. I started doing guest stars. 425 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: I went back to work. For a moment, I had 426 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: done Friends. I'm Randa, these aren't real. That was my 427 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: biggest line on Friend. The next week, I worked at 428 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: a law firm as a legal secretary for I was 429 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: gonna say who's the white guy's wife. They were all 430 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: white on Friends. The one who was who had the 431 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: dark hair, he was tall. 432 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: What was his ross? Yeah him? His dad is a lawyer, okay, 433 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: and I work with him. And they had a big 434 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: old sign with the friends. You know. They was all 435 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: like hugging each other. 436 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: Yes, And he would bring people by and go, this 437 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: is my secretary. She was on Friends and I was miserable. 438 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had my bag, lunch and everything. 439 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: I want to talk about that role. I love that cameo. Ronda, Peta, Peta. 440 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: Hey, Peta, it's me Ronza from PS One twenty nine. 441 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: I sharedn't my pudding with you, man, I gave you 442 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: my sn't pick man, and you act like you don't 443 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: even know me. I'm sure my pudding with you. I 444 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: share my pudding with you, Cherry, Cherry. I love that 445 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: so much. 446 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: When I was watching Friends in real time, in real 447 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: time in the nineties, I was like, this is the 448 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: best cameo ever, And now watching it back a thousand 449 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: more times, I'm like, it still is. 450 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: It's a Peta Peta and thirty Rock my thirty rock stuff. 451 00:20:45,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: Ham Ham Ham, You're just oh god, oh my God, Ronda, 452 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: there's these lean years. 453 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 3: They're on the couch. How does the Jamie Fox show 454 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: come along? 455 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: That came at the time I was doing Suddenly Susan, 456 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: and they called me in. 457 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: For like just a little role to play Garcell Bouvet. 458 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: Who were you know? I just make these friends from shows. 459 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: We're dear friends to this day. 460 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: She's now in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and amazing. 461 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: She's so awesome. We still talk. 462 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: She played Jamie's girlfriend and she had like a sister circle. 463 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: I was only supposed to come in for one or 464 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: two lines, but I was always taking chances, and Jamie happened. 465 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: I knew him from doing stand up, Like Jamie stayed 466 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: with me for a hot minute when he had any money. 467 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: But now he had this big show, and. 468 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: I knew that if I did something different, because they 469 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: weren't going to ask me back. I put my hand 470 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: on Jamie sty and acted like it was the best 471 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: thing since since you know bread, and he took my 472 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: hand off, and I kept doing it while he was talking. 473 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: Then I leaned into him and I sniffed his neck 474 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: and it made Jamie laugh. And they kept bringing me 475 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: back to do these episodes on the Jamie Fox Show. 476 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: And that's how people would bring me back because I 477 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: would always do something a little bit different to catch 478 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: people's attention. 479 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they liked it. 480 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's because I mean, you think about these things, 481 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: you know, and you put all of yourself into your work. 482 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: I just I know that about you. 483 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: Tell me about Wendy Williams and you going on that 484 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: show A. 485 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: Light right right? 486 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I was working on I left, I e 487 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: fired from the View and I was doing a Christmas 488 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: movie and they called and they said, we want you 489 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: to because when people were feeling it for Wendy, that's 490 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: when she was in rehab, they were having like comedy panels, 491 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: like a bunch of comedians filling in for her, and 492 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: they said, we want you to come and be on 493 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: the comedy panel. And that's why I took a chance. 494 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: And I believed in myself and I said, I just 495 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: came from doing the View like that's got a cachet 496 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: like none other. And I said, I don't want to 497 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: be competing with other comics for the biggest joke. And 498 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: I said no, And I thought, oh my gosh, should 499 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: I make a mistake, Should I have done it, and 500 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: I said no and stuck to my guns, and they said, well, fine, 501 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: we can't use you. But they called me two weeks 502 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: later and they said, okay, we'll let you host the 503 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: show by yourself, because that's what I told him. I said, 504 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it if I can't host 505 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: it by myself. After coming off the view from it 506 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: for eight years, I don't want to do it. So 507 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: they said we'll let you host, and I said, not 508 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: only do I want to host by myself, I want. 509 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: Two days to fill in for Wendy. 510 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: And I wanted to be Monday and Tuesday because all 511 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: of the big stuff happens over the weekend, so the 512 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: ratings are bigger on a Monday, so that you can 513 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: talk it because people try to. 514 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: Bury news over the weekend. You know this, of course. 515 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: So they let me do it and it was absolutely amazing. 516 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: It was amazing. 517 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: It was I did it for two days and they 518 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: wanted me to come back, and then all of a 519 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: sudden they called and said, no, you don't have to 520 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: come back. We're going to do reruns. So you know, 521 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: I didn't come back, and that was it. They offered 522 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: me back then a talk show deal, but it went away, 523 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: it didn't happen, and I was just. 524 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: Like, oh man, cause I loved it so much. 525 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: So then I went out and tried to pitch my 526 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: own talk show, and that's when everybody told me no. 527 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I had made like a little sizzle reel yep. 528 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: And I said to one lady at a network I 529 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: won't name, Oh my gosh. She was like, I don't 530 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: need to see it, and I said, well, it's only 531 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: like literally three minutes, but it kind of will show 532 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: you what I did when I filled in for Wendy 533 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: and kind of. 534 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: What I envisioned it. She goes, I don't need to 535 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: see that. 536 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: And at the time, I think Kelly Clarkson had her show, 537 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: and it was another woman that had a show and 538 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: don't remember her name. 539 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: She's like a motivational speaker. 540 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, maybe we can put you on 541 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: a show with a bunch of chefs. 542 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: And you don't know how to cook, but you learn 543 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: to cook with America. That's how you doing these meetings. 544 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I know, you learn to cook, like it's the brightest 545 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: damn idea, right, And I'm looking at this lady going 546 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: I don't cook. I like order door dash or like, 547 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't know how to cook and I don't like 548 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: and she's like, but. 549 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 3: America would love it. Uh. 550 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: And she basically told me all the reasons why it 551 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't work with me. Singular talk show host don't typically 552 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: do well, and you know they want younger. And I said, 553 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: but I am a comic, like I can make magic 554 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: where there is none, and the silence is where I 555 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: excel at being funny, and I have it on a 556 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: sizzle room and she goes, I don't need to see it. 557 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: I think I left that meeting crying. 558 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: Then another person told me, you know your little how 559 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: they could tell me I weighed too much your little 560 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe slimming down and this. 561 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: Is kind someone said that to you within the past 562 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: couple of years. 563 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it had to be it was right after 564 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: I left you. So it was around two thousand fourteen. 565 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 566 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like you're too fat. It was cause 567 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: you have to do they have to colde it. It 568 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: was just like, this is kind of what people are 569 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: looking for a talk show and it was no, and 570 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: it was I was devastated. And then I went to 571 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: a network where they were like this. This is why 572 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe anybody tell us signed to check. 573 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: The lady was like, I don't even need to go 574 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: to anyone. 575 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: You are what America wants. 576 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: I have chills running down my arm. I saw you 577 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: fill in for Wendy. We you're gonna hear from us. 578 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: Six weeks later, I was like, well, what what's going on? 579 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: They have picked another host that was on the air now. 580 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: She's absolutely amazing, and it was devastating. I couldn't stop 581 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: crying because I was like, I've wanted this dream for 582 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: so long and everybody's saying no, but it comes back around, 583 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: like you don't let your dream die. I put it 584 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: on the shelf with the Fine China, and I hosted 585 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: a game show. I think I might have hosted a 586 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: It was like a littal short lived game show. I 587 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: did more acting, I went on the road and did 588 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: stand up. All of that made it made me that 589 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: much stronger for when they offered it to me again 590 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: and again, so with you bring it back to Wendy. 591 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: They wanted me to come in and fill in for her, 592 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: and my ratings were great because I was the only 593 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: one that loved doing pop culture like I guess, and 594 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: that was a format that worked for her. So I 595 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: came in and sat in for her, and I kept 596 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: sitting in for her. I think even there was a 597 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: conflict because Ellen wanted me to come on her show 598 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: and I hadn't been on her show in twelve years, 599 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: and so it was a big conflict. But it worked out, 600 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: and I was an audition nation and they were saying, no, 601 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: you can't go because you're supposed to be here, but 602 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: they let me do it, and so I litterly was 603 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: on there and I said, I know they're going to 604 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: offer me. 605 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: They're going to offer me. 606 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: So her time was ending, her contract was up, so 607 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: they offered me a deal, and her time slot was 608 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: still there. You know when networks, they don't ever want 609 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: to lose the time slot, right because if you lose 610 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: your time slot, you don't get it back. 611 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: They filled it with local programming. 612 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: So her contract was ending and I just stepped into 613 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: that time slot. So typically talk shows take a year 614 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: or two to develop. I developed mine in thirty days. 615 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 2: Okay, there's so much I want to get into here. 616 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: Because you just said so many great things. I can 617 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: relate completely because I'm in this business too, and I 618 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: develop as well, and I've shopped one thousand shows, gotten 619 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: a thousand no's, yeah, also gotten. We love this, we 620 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: can't wait for this, let's do it, let's sign a 621 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: development deal, and then another executive comes in and it poof, 622 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: it's gone. 623 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: And it's so exhausting and emotional. Yes, and you just. 624 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: Got to get used to a lot of rejection. But 625 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: it's hard when you put something, as you said, I 626 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: put it on the shelf. When you put it on 627 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: the shelf, that is agonizing, absolutely, because you don't know 628 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: if it's going to come back around. I mean, you 629 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: just said it comes back around, and you hope that 630 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: it does, and it did for you. But it's so 631 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: hard to get through that and keep going, Just keep. 632 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: Going, Essie. 633 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: Let me tell you how devastated I was because when 634 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: I say I had to put it on the shelf. 635 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to put. 636 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: It on the shelf, but I said, I said, mentally 637 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: and emotionally, heart, my heart can't take another no, because 638 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: I knew how I would be different from other hosts, 639 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: and I knew all I need is a shot if 640 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: you can just see what I can do, and nobody 641 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: would give me that shot and that was it. So 642 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: I said, I'm just gonna I can't think about it 643 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: anymore because it hurts too much. And when I went 644 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: the show Dish Nation, which it takes it's a little 645 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: pop culture show, they called and they wanted me to 646 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: move to Atlanta, and I said, I can't move to Atlanta. 647 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: I'm in LA this is where I got to be. 648 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: But I had a meeting with them, the people who 649 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: do it, and in the meeting, this is what I 650 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: was our girl. 651 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: In the meeting. 652 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: My managers they know whenever I'm having a meeting, talk 653 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: to them about a talk show for me. 654 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: So they say, we had a great meeting. 655 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: They were like, you know, we're going to do it 656 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: in LA in Atlanta at the same time. And so 657 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: my manager says, well, Sherry's really what she's really interested 658 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: in is a talk show. So what can we look 659 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: at in the talk show space girl. They said to me, well, 660 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: you know we already have. 661 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: We already have Nick Cannon. 662 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I burst into tears, not 663 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: because I was upset at Nick, but when we filled 664 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: in for Wendy the people who had who they had 665 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: a comedy panel, but the people who were singular hosts 666 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: were Kiki Palmer, Michael Rappaport, Jerry O'Connell, Nick Cannon. 667 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: Me. Everybody had gotten a deal. 668 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Jerry O'Connell had a six week test deal, Michael Rappaport 669 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: had like a test deal. Keky Palmer went to g 670 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: M A three with Michael Strahan and Sarah Haynes. Everybody 671 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: got a talk show deal except me. 672 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, no, no, Jerry had nothing. 673 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: And so when they said they said, well we're doing 674 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon, his show is supposed to start this fall, 675 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: I burst into tears, like and I had to wipe 676 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: my eyes, and I said, oh, I'm sorry I didn't 677 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: meet you know, so happy for Nick. And we came 678 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: downstairs in the parking lot and I started crying again 679 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: and my manager starts crying. 680 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: And I go, what are you crying for? But what 681 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: are you crying for? You you get commissioned? Why are you? 682 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: And he's like, but I've been with him so long, 683 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: we're attached at the hip, And I said, everybody who 684 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: filled in got a chance to do it except me. 685 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Then you start feeling like, well, what is it about 686 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: me that everybody is saying no to? I got a 687 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: great idea, but it's sometimes it's a timing thing. See, 688 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: somebody said, I was in church and they said, sometimes 689 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: your dream doesn't happen because you got to mature into 690 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: the reality of it. And because that if if something 691 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: happens it's a crash and burn, you have to have 692 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: enough up under you said that when you can get 693 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: back up and have the fortitude to keep going in 694 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: the strength. A lot of these people on TikTok and 695 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: social media, they get this overnight success, right. 696 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: Unfortunately you're hearing about people. 697 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: Committing suicide, yes, TikTokers, and it's overwhelming. 698 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: They don't know how to handle it. They don't know 699 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: what happens when it's too much pressure and or when 700 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: it goes away, or when it goes away. We know 701 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: you and I, Oh, when stuff goes away, we know 702 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: what to do. 703 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: We know exactly how to pivot and go. Okay, what 704 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: we cry or whatever? However we do it? 705 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: What's next? Yeah? Where do I need to pivot? Yeah? 706 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: And I think that it was a timing thing that 707 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm very spiritual. God knew I couldn't 708 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: handle this dream in my thirties because I'd be out 709 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: in the street, I'd be a whole. 710 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: I'd be a hole. Who want to go out with me? Girl? 711 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: We gonna be sniffing? 712 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 1: What? Because I was out in the streets, Girl, I 713 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: was insecure. 714 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: I'm just telling the truth. Girl. 715 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, my self esteem wasn't high. So in my 716 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: I wanted people to like me. I'd have been at 717 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: parties I wasn't supposed to. 718 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: Girl. The FBI would have been like, what party was Sherry? 719 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: Not yet? 720 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: Every time we turn on the damn tape, Cherry in 721 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: the you know. So it had to happen at fifty four, 722 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: where I'm more grounded where I want to go. You know, 723 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: I stay at home, but I have a lot of 724 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: life underneath me. Yeah, that's when it happened because I've 725 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: had the dream for over twenty years and. 726 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: I get that. 727 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: And I feel the same way looking back at my 728 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: career because I have the opposite of imposter syndrome. 729 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: I think you probably do too. 730 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: Where I don't feel like I'm a fraud, I feel like, 731 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: why aren't you giving me more opportunities? Like I know 732 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: what I can do, and I know what I can't do, 733 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: But I know what I can do. I want it 734 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: always more opportunities, and looking back, I'm glad there were 735 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: things I wasn't. 736 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: Ready for ye when I thought I was. 737 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: And I'm glad I'm you know, at a point in 738 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: my career where you know, I worked super hard in 739 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: my twenties so that when I got to thirty, I 740 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: could have a family and I could relax a little 741 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: bit because I had done so much. Yeah, and then 742 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm ramping it up again as my son gets older. 743 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: Like it all worked out, But in the middle of it, 744 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: when you're not getting the thing that you know you 745 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: can do, that you know will work, it's hard to 746 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: tell yourself, Oh, the timing is just not right. 747 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: It'll come. It's just hard. But I think the biggest 748 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: thing is what we do. 749 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: You got to know how to pivot, Yeah, exactly, just 750 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: kind of keep working and pivot and where can I 751 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: be relevant and where can I put my skills to 752 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: use and look for these open doors? 753 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: Can I say one more thing about that? 754 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: A girlfriend told me when I was going through the 755 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: mass devastation of the nose for the talk show. She said, Sherry, 756 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: instead of asking for permission from them to give you 757 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: a talk show, why don't you start your own. That's 758 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: when I started my podcast Two Funny Mamas with my 759 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: best friend Kim Whitley. I said, because this is something 760 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: that we can control, Kim, because she was going through 761 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: her no season. We can control it. It was only 762 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: and then I researched it. I got our LLC everything, and. 763 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: Then the pandemic hit. I was supposed we supposed to 764 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: shoot it. 765 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: At Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart's podcast studio. Jamie Fox wanted 766 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: to produce it. 767 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 3: COVID hit. 768 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we had to stay at home, but 769 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: we put it on the air anyway. Yea two NAACP 770 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Image Awards later. Like our fan base is so loyal 771 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: when we have a business we sponsor they literally by 772 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars of whatever because they trust us. And 773 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: that podcast got me a development deal with a company. 774 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: They wanted to do a sitcom with me because they 775 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: went on It was one of my rants during COVID 776 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: of My Vagina's Lonely, and I went on a whole 777 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: ramp by like I was sick of my son, I'm 778 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: sick of my dog, I'm scared, I'm in this house, 779 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: my Vagina's lonely, and this company, the. 780 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: Studio heard it and they gave me a development deal. 781 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: It didn't happen because I just the conflict of time 782 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: with my talk show. But I pivoted and did something else, 783 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: and I think that kind of opened it up because 784 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about that talk show. 785 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: I think, no, you're right. 786 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 2: And I had been asked to consult on Aaron Sorkin's 787 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: HBO show The Newsroom, and I loved that, but that 788 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: was a very serious show about the news. And then 789 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: I got asked to consult on Apple TV's The Morning Show, 790 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 2: and I see all these comedians are going to be 791 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: in it, you know, Reese and Steve Carell and Jennifer Aniston. 792 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, good, this is going to be 793 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: a comedy about my business. 794 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: Great. 795 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: I go to consult writer's room all that stuff. It 796 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: turns into a drama. They turn it into a drama. 797 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 3: So then I'm thinking, gosh, I can't. 798 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: Wait till someone writes a comedy about my business and 799 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: then asks me to consult on it. And I'm lying 800 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: in bed one night and I said, well, why don't 801 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 2: I just write it? 802 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 3: Why am I. 803 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: Waiting for someone to ask me to consult on something 804 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 2: they've done? 805 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 3: I can write it. So I did. 806 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: I wrote the pilot. This is the show that, like 807 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: your talk show, I just really really believe in and 808 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 2: I still do and got all the nose, but I 809 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: wrote it. I got really positive feedback, and doing it myself, 810 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: whatever happened to it just felt really good because now 811 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm in charge, I'm in control, and we're in a business, 812 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: you and I where everyone else is in control of 813 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: our fate. It feels like at all times that's hard. 814 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: That is a tough space to live in. 815 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: And when you finally get the agency, like you did 816 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 2: to say, I don't want to. 817 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: Fill in on the comedy panel. Yeah, I want to 818 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 3: do two days. 819 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: I want them to be these days and I wanted 820 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: to When you finally get that agency, it's just such 821 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: it's so empowering. 822 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I'm thankful. I have a you know, 823 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 3: people of my team who believe in me. My team. 824 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: I've been together with them ten years, you know, and 825 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: normally you're with agents who if you're not bringing in anything, 826 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: they drop. You might have always believed in me, and 827 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: everywhere they went. Talk show hosts was on there, yes, 828 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, pushing I got a publish everywhere I go, 829 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: she's going, can we push for chery to get a 830 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. 831 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: This is what she's like. 832 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: She's never stopped. So I got those kind of people, 833 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: and I'm very very glad, right. 834 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: Can I read your script? Yes? What would you mind? 835 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: Because because I love that and I love sitcoms, I said, 836 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: I really would love to do a comedy, a single 837 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: camera Yes, comedy different from the sitcom of a talk show, 838 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: because the dattlings behind the scenes that nobody knows about, 839 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: the the things that Barbara Walters used to go through 840 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: with Diane Sawyer because there was always everybody knew that, 841 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: there was always that that thing right here because they 842 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: were both trying to get the same guests, the stuff 843 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: that I go through being a talk show host, and 844 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: my other compatriots colleagues. 845 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, girl, if only people knew I feel the same way. 846 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: I just when I get done with this, I want 847 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: to do something like that. Because I used to watch 848 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: Larry the Larry Sanders Larry. 849 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: Sanders Did you and I? 850 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: He could only he could only have sex when he 851 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: watched himself on the show. That was my favorite episode. 852 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: I just would I would love to read it. Well, 853 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: that's connection, That's that's networking. 854 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, I love that absolutely. You can read this absolutely. 855 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 2: You and I have talked about our sons and mental 856 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 2: health a bunch. 857 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important to both of us. 858 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 2: And I know Jeffrey is the love of your life 859 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 2: so much like my son is the love of my life. 860 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: And talking about him for me too is important. Like 861 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: you know, he is a huge part of me, and 862 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: I love talking about him. What parts of you as 863 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: a mom wanted to explode publicly with your love and 864 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: what parts of you as a mom really wanted to 865 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: protect him and keep him, you know private. 866 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 3: You know. So for me, I've always talked about you, Jeffrey. 867 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: I've always talked about from the how he was conceived 868 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: with fertility and he's just always been a part of 869 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: my life. So people recognize Jeffrey from me bringing him 870 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: on the view and just literally he's nineteen. About a 871 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: year and a half ago, Ssie, he said to me 872 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: because we were at a dunkin Donuts and he went 873 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: the wrong way and I was like, ooh, this is 874 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: gonna be good for the sitting in the chair when 875 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: I talk about Jeffrey, And he looked at me and 876 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: he said, don't talk about me. I'm not a story. 877 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: And I guess a teacher at a school laughed and said, 878 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: your mom can make a story out of anything. And 879 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: because my son is on the spectrum, he's got it. 880 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: They used to say Asperger's, but they say on the spectrum. 881 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: So he takes everything literal. Yes, my son, he does 882 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: it like nuances and things like that sarcasm. 883 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 3: So he said, I'm not. 884 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: A story, don't talk about me, don't show my picture. 885 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: He's adamant. And I broke down and cried and I said, Jeffrey, 886 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: that's my label, Like I'm a mom. Like if I don't, 887 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm not dating anybody. I don't go anywhere. You're all 888 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: I got, Like you're my money. Yeah, like that's you're 889 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: all my jokes. 890 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 3: And and now. 891 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: At nineteen, he's going through stuff that I want to 892 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: talk about. That is so funny that I know mothers 893 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: of teenage boys go through and the angst that they 894 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: go through and how me is and he doesn't. 895 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: Allow me to talk about it. 896 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: It is literally, but I have to respect his privacy 897 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: because Jeffrey did not ask for this. 898 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 3: That's right. I did, that's right. 899 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: And I don't want him ever looking at something and 900 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: him being humiliated because I talk to other comics and 901 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: they're like, nope, that's how I pay the bills, you know, 902 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: until you move out. 903 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: But I go, no, I have. 904 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: To respect Jeffrey even though everything he does every single 905 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: day I want to laugh at and I know other 906 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: people would and I beg him. I go, if I 907 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: paid you for the joke, Jeffrey has no concept of money, 908 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: so that doesn't work. Paying her for the joke, me going, Jeffrey, 909 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: look at how many likes we get. 910 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 3: What we do? 911 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, little skits together on Instagram means nothing to him. 912 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: I've chosen to keep his life private. I'm trying to 913 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: see if I can give Kelly Ripper used to call 914 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: her son the one that shall not have a name, 915 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: or something like, Yeah, if I can go my friend's son. 916 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: A wink wink, we'll call him Schmefrey. We'll call him Schmefrey. Yeah. 917 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 3: But I gotta respect that. 918 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: So I do keep his life private because now people 919 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: are recognizing him. 920 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: He's a nineteen year old. He's an adult. 921 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: He's an adult, and he deserves that. So now I 922 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: got to get a life. Like I said, I got 923 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: to get pregnant. I need somebody to give me pregnant. 924 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 3: I need more material. 925 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: I need more material, girl, because I can't keep talking 926 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: about a p dietris cutting my bunions open. 927 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 3: And oh my gosh. 928 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, So I'm now talking about my dates that 929 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: I go on and you know, talk, but I refuse 930 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: to name anybody. 931 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: Oh oh, why are you seeing people that people would know? 932 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 3: It was a couple. It was a couple of times. 933 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole You can't tell You can't tell me 934 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: any of them now that it's over, No. 935 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: Because you'll know, you'll know who it is. 936 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: And it's always it's good, yes, and it is some 937 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: good stories. 938 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 3: But I'm like, I don't want you know, man, I 939 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: would love to, but but they didn't work out. Now 940 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 3: it didn't work out. It's hard dating. Yeah, one was 941 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 3: a comic. It's hard dating comics. I married one. It 942 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 3: was worse. 943 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: It's really hard. It's actors. It's really hard. I'll tell 944 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: you some of the stuff that that's telling. One actor, 945 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: he's an actor, he's been in big movies. He came 946 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: to a comedy show that I did. It was great, 947 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: and he I gave him my number. Really cute, muscular. 948 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: And he calls me and he's like, I've had crush 949 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: on you for a long time. And I'm like for 950 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: real and and he said he wanted to take me out. 951 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, absolutely god, and he said, but 952 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you. He said, I 953 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: have a girlfriend. As a matter of fact, I have 954 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: three girlfriends. He's into that poly poly ammor thing. And 955 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there on the front. I'm going, so you 956 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: have three and he goes, yes, I have my main 957 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: one and on the weekends, I don't it's her weekend. 958 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: Then I have the other two and they don't know 959 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: about you. They're very, very open. And I was like, 960 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: so you want to you want to bring me in 961 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: what other women? 962 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 3: And I said I can't. No. 963 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm very glad you're honest with me, but I can't 964 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: get down with that. And he's like, he's like, I 965 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: literally I'm not looking to get married, but I know 966 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: if you're at home and you just need somebody to 967 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: come over, and he said all the stuff that he 968 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: wanted to do to me. 969 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 970 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: He said, I'm that person and you could call it, 971 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, And I was just like, I hate. As 972 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: wonderful as that sounds, I can't. 973 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 3: I can't do that. No, that would not be appealing 974 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: to me at all. 975 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: So every time I see him in the movie every 976 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: day and he's got his manger, they are always he 977 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: posts her but not the other two and. 978 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: She's like, she's really smart and she's down with it. Oh, 979 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 3: he loves me. Do people know that he's got other 980 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 3: side pieces? No, like the public, they don't know. It's amazing. 981 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 3: I'm telling the stuff that goes on behind the scenes. 982 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: You know. 983 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: It's one that flew me in, flew me on this 984 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: private plane where he was going to be. 985 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 3: I can't. 986 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: I just told you, I can't say the name. Flew 987 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: me in on a private plane. He rented out a big, 988 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: huge mansion because he was on comic on tour, so 989 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: rented out a beautiful, beautiful place. It was an amazing 990 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: weekend and amazing, but it was like, you know, but 991 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: once just the two of us together was amazing. But 992 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: going out now in public, everybody knows who this person is. 993 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: It's yeah, you know, I'm kind of walking nine steps behind. 994 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 1: And it was it just was too much. We could 995 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 1: even we couldn't make that work. 996 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 3: So would you want to be with someone who's not 997 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 3: a celebrity. 998 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: I would like to, but I think it's hard. For 999 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: what's been hard dating a regular person is my life 1000 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: is so busy. It's hard for me to give you 1001 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: the attention that you need. It's hard for me. I'm 1002 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: always on the road, I'm always I traveled twice a month. 1003 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm always it's Jeffrey, it's the talk show, it's branding deals, 1004 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: it's stand up, it's writing a book. So it's a 1005 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: person who's as busy as me understands that life, right 1006 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: Like the person who flew me in, he was so busy. 1007 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: I didn't talk to him again for months because he 1008 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: was so busy. The actor, the actor that I was 1009 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: talking about, he's in another country making a movie right now. 1010 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 3: So it's like those people understand your life. 1011 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess if I didn't work as much, 1012 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: I've been with people who were I don't want to 1013 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: say regular, but they just do regular, typical jobs. And 1014 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: it was always like, Sherry, can I walk the red 1015 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: carpet with you? 1016 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 3: Can? Can I? You know? 1017 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: I have a script I wanted to write. Could you 1018 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: show it to somebody? Or why aren't you spending time. 1019 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 1: Can you just spend some time with me? So that's 1020 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: the hard thing. 1021 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easier with people in the business to understand 1022 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 2: your business. 1023 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a guy who was he was a 1024 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: vice president of a corporation and he's really busy. But 1025 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: he's like, I fly into New York, and when I 1026 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: fly into New York, can we go out to dinner? 1027 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: So when he flies out, will go out to dinner. 1028 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: There was a chef. There was a big, a huge chef. 1029 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: It was just like now that one was a who 1030 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: you know? But he was very, very busy at the time. 1031 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 1: Chefs are great. 1032 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 3: They could is he a TV chef or like a 1033 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 3: chef chef? I'm gonna stop writing. You absolutely know him. 1034 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,959 Speaker 1: You know him and and you know so he would 1035 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: call me when I was on the road and we'd 1036 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: be flirting back and forth and it. 1037 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: Was almost we were going to meet up. Girl. 1038 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: That was like that was too hot to try. I 1039 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: was at a restaurant one time. He brought me something 1040 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: he made for me, some dessert. You know, Oh, I 1041 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: had some good I'm I should I have to write 1042 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: a book. 1043 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1044 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: At one point about who these maybe not give their 1045 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: names with more detail. 1046 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I get to I do get to 1047 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 3: have fun. 1048 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: And I've learned and now at this season, to keep 1049 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: my stuff private because I think sometimes so many people 1050 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: overshare and then when something goes south, you go, oh, 1051 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: please respect my privacy and them, you know, on social media, 1052 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:35,879 Speaker 1: it's like. 1053 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 3: Nope, you let us in, you open up the door. 1054 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 3: We want it all. 1055 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: That's right, And I don't want I don't want to 1056 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: be making no documentaries and how I fell in love 1057 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, j Lo. 1058 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 3: You better stop that girl. This is not going to 1059 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 3: work out. Oh boy, did that not work out? I 1060 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 3: was like, you keep your stuff to yourself. 1061 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: Stop making documentaries and all of this and asking for it. 1062 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, because too many people in your business. Yeah, well 1063 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 3: she invited them into her business. 1064 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: You invite people in and then you can't you can't 1065 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: put them out. 1066 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 3: So why now I go, I'm not inviting you in. Yeah, Okay, 1067 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 3: we're gonna do a bit of a lightning round. 1068 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you've already interviewed presidents and first ladies and a 1069 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: list actors. 1070 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 3: Who's someone you want to interview but haven't yet? Meryl Street? 1071 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: Oh good one. I love Meryl Street. So much. 1072 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk to her about her career. Michelle 1073 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: Obama and that guy that she's married to can come along. 1074 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 3: I would love to ask him some questions. Yeap. Who 1075 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 3: else I love? 1076 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: I just love intelligent people who have a sense of humor. 1077 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,479 Speaker 1: Trevor Noah, It's what I want. It's been so hard 1078 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: trying to get that man on my show. Huh. And 1079 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: and I think Jeremy Renner, I really want to come on. 1080 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've got a story. 1081 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: He's got a story, and I love his story. And boy, 1082 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: I think right now they said it's in the entertainment 1083 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: fields a great list. 1084 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: Who is the funniest comedian ever? And who's the funniest comedian? 1085 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 3: Right now? Who is the funniest comedian ever? 1086 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: He gets I will one of the funniest comedians ever. 1087 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 3: I don't know who I could say is one of 1088 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 3: the funniest. 1089 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: I know who I've always loved is Whoopy Goldberg. I 1090 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: used to watch her when I was younger, and you know, 1091 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: to work with her was it was. 1092 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 3: Like a dream. 1093 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 1: She's so talented, so talented, And who's one of the 1094 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: funniest now? 1095 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Oh my. 1096 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 1: Gosh, oh you put me on a spot girl because 1097 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember some of these comics that I 1098 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: know who are so funny that I came up with. 1099 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: Chris Rock will always be a favorite of mine. 1100 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,919 Speaker 3: Yea, Chris Rock. 1101 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: And I'm mad at Chris Rock because he's supposed to 1102 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: verify me for rayah and he has not verified me yet. 1103 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: I get on that. 1104 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm like in a pending status because you need a 1105 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: select you know. You can try to get on Ryo, 1106 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: which is the dating site for like if you're in 1107 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: the business, but they'll put you in and they'll put 1108 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: you into like oh you gotta wait. But if you 1109 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: get a celebrity to verify you, then you're in. 1110 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 3: And Chris does not need anyone to verify you. 1111 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: No, yeah, they said I need somebody to verify Well 1112 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: maybe not now, but I've been on Hole for three 1113 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: years and that's Chris Rock. Yeah, that's Chris Rock's fault. 1114 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: So Chris Rock will always wander sights. I love there 1115 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, it's so many. Yeah, my memory 1116 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: is going because I'm like their comics that I love. 1117 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that those those are good ones. Who's your favorite 1118 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 3: view co host? 1119 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, my favorite view I was like Meredith Via, 1120 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: She's just great. She's just easy going and cool, no controversy. 1121 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 3: No druma. I love you know. I saw the other 1122 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 3: day Nicole Wallace, Uh huh. She didn't know what was me. 1123 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: She kind of went past me, and I was I 1124 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to be all ghetto because we were on 1125 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: the Upper East Side and go no. 1126 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 3: She looked like she had come from jogging. So I 1127 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 3: love I. 1128 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: Love Nicole Wallace, love Joy Behar her mouth. You know, 1129 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: we got no more fights, but I spend more time 1130 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: with Joy Behart, Lizzie Hasselback and our bestess of friends 1131 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: on the show because we pray together all the time. 1132 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 1: And but I love them all. Whoope has her point 1133 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,760 Speaker 1: of view that she brings. I just I got along 1134 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: with all my co hosts. Jenny McCarthy was so great. 1135 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: She didn't have a good time on the show, but 1136 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: she had a good time with me. 1137 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 3: Good good Genie. 1138 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: Don't even like talking about the view. There was a 1139 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: time literally Jenny and I love Jenny because I did 1140 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: a sitcom with Jenny a pilot way back when I 1141 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: was thirty four years old, and I think Jenny was 1142 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: around and we played. 1143 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 3: Horrorse that's literally what we played. 1144 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: Like. We played two women who slew with everybody, and 1145 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: it was very it was very funny, and it didn't 1146 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 1: make it onto Fox. But Jenny would not do her 1147 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: homework and they got on my nerves. Like I went 1148 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: and saw everybody at the theater all the you know, 1149 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: I read the books, and so I saw everybody's movie 1150 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: because they would have private screenings. And we go back 1151 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: in and Barbara would say, dear, did you go and 1152 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,959 Speaker 1: see the movie? And Genny would go, yeah, Donnie. 1153 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 3: And I we went and it was so ethereal and. 1154 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: The way they would act, and I was like, bitch, 1155 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: you didn't even go. You wasn't even there. 1156 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 3: You and Donnie. I was there and I. 1157 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: Didn't see y'all nan nowhere in no seats. And she 1158 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: and Barbara would say good dear, and I was like, ooh, 1159 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: I want to call you out so bad because you 1160 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 1: didn't read that book, you didn't go to the theater. 1161 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: And so I love having We had a lot of fun, 1162 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: but Jenny one day, I guess it just wasn't working. 1163 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: One day she was wearing glasses all the time and 1164 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: like these button up shirts. 1165 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 3: So I said why are you dressing like that? 1166 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,399 Speaker 1: They hadn't made that girl wear glasses so she could 1167 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: appear to be And I said, they knew you was 1168 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: in Playboy, whatever you did, they knew you and who 1169 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: you were. And that's the behind the scenes of talk 1170 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: show because she I was like, what is this with 1171 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: this look with the glass? Now you look like a 1172 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: sexy school teacher that's trying to flirt with your students. 1173 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 3: Is that what they want you to look like? Uh? 1174 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: I was Jenny's lifeline on the show. When they told 1175 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 1: us both we weren't coming back, we all got drunk. 1176 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 3: It was great. Yeah. 1177 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned in Suddenly Susan. You played two different 1178 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 2: characters on Suddenly Susan. 1179 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 3: Who are they? 1180 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't know the first character I played because that's 1181 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: when I came in as a guest star. Okay, so 1182 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember. But they called me back because Brooke 1183 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: loved me so much. They called me back to be 1184 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: a series regular, and I played the secretary of Eric. 1185 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: Was it Miranda or something? It was Miranda. It was 1186 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: Miranda Charles. I love that role so much. I played 1187 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: Eric Idol his secretary, and that was one of the 1188 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: bright spots of my life. I met Andy Dick, who 1189 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: am really good friends with even to this day. Well, 1190 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: we went through it that needs to be in the show. Well, 1191 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, me and Andy went through. But I 1192 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: met Andy Dick and then we did a sitcom Less 1193 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: than Perfect, and that's when Andy Dick and I became 1194 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: really really good friends. 1195 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 2: So a person you played on Suddenly Susan was named 1196 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 2: Ronnie Ronnie that's right, Oh my gosh. Well, in addition 1197 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 2: to playing Ronda on Friends, where else do you play Ronda? 1198 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: Oh? 1199 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 3: The Emerald Lagassi Show. No, No, I didn't play Ronda 1200 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 3: on that. Ronda, Ronda? Ronda? Else did I play Randa? 1201 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 3: I'll give you a hint. It's a movie. It's a movie. 1202 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 3: It wasn't Beauty Shop, was it? No? Oh my gosh, 1203 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 3: it wasn't. It wasn't the movie with Kiki Palmer Carlina White. No, 1204 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 3: it was Ronda. It wasn't with Alvis Hodge. 1205 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 2: Where else did I play Ronda girl Transformers? 1206 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: Well, for first of all, my scenes got cut out 1207 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: of transform Really Michael Bay. I auditioned for Michael Bay 1208 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: and he told me to improv, and I improved all 1209 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: of my scenes and they put me in Transformer two 1210 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: scenes and it was Josh Dumal. Dumaal wasn't in the movie, huh. 1211 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,919 Speaker 1: He came to it, showed my pawn shop. He came 1212 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: into my pawn shop and I and I told him 1213 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna give him no guns unless he took 1214 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: his clothes off. 1215 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 3: And it was great, and they cut it out. And 1216 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 3: I tell you why. 1217 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: I think they cut out because Michael Bay wanted me 1218 00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: to do some free stuff for some some deal he 1219 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: had and my agents was like, my agents like sharing, 1220 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: not coming to help sell your telephones. And all of 1221 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: a sudden he loved me, Michael Bay, and all of 1222 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, my scenes were cut out. But I'm still 1223 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: I think I was in the credits. Yeah, I still 1224 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: get like a little check. But my scenes were cut out. 1225 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: I think because I told Michael Bay, now, but I'll 1226 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: sell your telephones. Now put me in another dog on 1227 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: No I will now. 1228 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we share something in common. We both did Celebrity Jeopardy. 1229 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: Who were your competitors and how did it go? 1230 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: My one competitor was the guy that's on Lauren Order SVU. 1231 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 3: He's he's a serious. 1232 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: One with Mariska Hargate okay, and Chris Maloney. Chris Maloney, 1233 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: Chris Maloney, I'm not good with names. And there was 1234 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: an other young lady. She's like on ESPN and she's 1235 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: really funny, like she does com really great. It was 1236 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: those two secret to that. And you know it's hitting 1237 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: that buzzer. You got it. It's all about the buzzer. 1238 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: You got to get approved with that buzzer. But also 1239 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: they both left with because we were all playing for 1240 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: a charity, and so my charity. 1241 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 3: I would never see, like you good at a Jeopardy. 1242 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: I could never Jeopardy is not the lane I swim 1243 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: in one hundred thousand dollars pyramid, that's the Hollywood Game Night, 1244 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: all of those, but Jeopardy. 1245 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 3: I look at it with my grandmother. I huh. So 1246 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 3: they've always asked me. 1247 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: I've always said no, but because of the charity, I said, yes, 1248 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: no one share you walking into death. 1249 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 3: You know you ain't. 1250 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: And I said, but I'm doing it for this charity 1251 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: because they get I think they gave our charities. Even 1252 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: if you lost, you got the charity got thirty thousand dollars. Yeah, 1253 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: you can win a million something. Lisa and Walter from 1254 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: mamb of Elementary. 1255 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 3: That's her. 1256 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 1: That's her jam. She know a lot about nothing. That's 1257 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: my girlfriend. She know a lot of opinion about a 1258 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: bunch of nothing. So when I went in there, when 1259 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I tell I thought they was gonna give us easy 1260 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: questions for the celebrities. 1261 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 3: When I tell you them to have questions, they were 1262 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 3: like in. 1263 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Roman eighteen nineteen forty five, post Jesus, what was And 1264 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: I was like. 1265 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1266 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what that answer is. And then if 1267 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: I did know it, I couldn't get the buzzer. So 1268 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: they would say it and I was like, they I 1269 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get the buzzer. And I was like, that's what 1270 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. And the girl from ESPN said, share, 1271 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: you gotta trust your gut and I go, well. 1272 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: Hey, bitch, you winning. Now you're telling me to trust 1273 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 3: my gut. 1274 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Right, So everybody, I'm telling you sc Chris Maloney had 1275 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: like sixty four thousand dollars. The girl from ESPN had 1276 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: seventy two thousand dollars. Ask me how much I had 1277 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: about seven hundred dollars, but you couldn't tell. I had 1278 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: the most fun on Celebrity Jeopardy did. They loved me, 1279 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: and I was so happy. Rosie O'Donnell even made a 1280 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: post saying why I should have never did it and 1281 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: I should fire my team because I look so But 1282 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, it wasn't about me. 1283 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 3: That's not why I went on there. 1284 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was willing to make myself look crazy because 1285 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 1: my charity got thirty thousand and every time they run 1286 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: that show, people donate to her chair her organization. 1287 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Like people have put her in the will. 1288 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: They're like, when I die, I want five thousand a 1289 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: month to come to you. She's made so much money 1290 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: from me looking silly. 1291 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 3: I didn't take myself seriously. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough 1292 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 3: show to do though, it's how did you do well? Sherry? 1293 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 3: I won, but I see, I know it. That's why 1294 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 3: I said that. That's something you came. 1295 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 2: Down to the wager at the end, and you know, 1296 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 2: it really could have gone either way. 1297 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 3: And I was on with some very smart people, but you. 1298 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 2: Know it was I was very nervous because you can 1299 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 2: get very embarrassed coming into that, coming into that show, 1300 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 2: but it went okay. 1301 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 1: No to self when they call me back for Celebrity Jeopardy, 1302 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: because they will they're going because I was so, I 1303 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: was the entertainment of the show, and I'm gonna tell 1304 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: them in my contract. Sea Cup is not to be 1305 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: on the same platform with me. Sea Cup can come 1306 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: on Wheel of Fortune because I'm a I'm a dominate 1307 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 1: you definitely be me. That's my dag on show Wheel 1308 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: of Fortune. I get I get to that, I get 1309 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 1: to that left at Sea Cup can come on Hollywood 1310 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: Gag Night. At Sea Cup can try to beat me 1311 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars Pyramid. I will run you into 1312 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: the ground. I get my people to the Winter Circle. 1313 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Okay that, Jeffardy, You're not gonna be on that with me. 1314 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Girl, don't worry. Okay. 1315 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: The final question is the most important to me culturally. 1316 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 3: Okay, when is iced coffee season? 1317 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know because I drink jasmin tea. Okay, I 1318 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: don't drink I don't drink coffee. I do mushroom coffee 1319 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and I do green I do jazzmine tea. 1320 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 3: If you were to drink iced coffee, when would the 1321 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 3: season be? It would have to be like around now. 1322 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, no, it have to be when it's hot, right 1323 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: like around the spring. 1324 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 3: No, in the spring summer. 1325 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: I would think ice coffee in the spring or the 1326 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: summer would be great. Why on earth would you drink 1327 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: an ice coffee now? Unless you like me? You hot flash, 1328 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: so that would absolutely I'm gonna change my answer to 1329 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: be dead of winter because that's when I'm hot flashing 1330 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the most. 1331 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,919 Speaker 3: The correct answer is you're round, the correct you're round, 1332 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 3: You're round. 1333 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 2: Okay, it's always ice coffee season. But as a non 1334 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 2: iced coffee drinker, you're at a disadvantage. 1335 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 3: So I won't hold that against you. 1336 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: So you pulling celebrity Jeopardy on me right now. That's 1337 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: why you're not gonna play with me. Why you're not 1338 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: gonna play with me? 1339 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 3: That was unfair. How you be shady without being shady? 1340 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 3: There you go. Well, Sherry, I love you and I'm 1341 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 3: so glad you did this. Thank you so much. Gosh, 1342 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 3: it was so much fun. 1343 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so fun. And I just love watching you 1344 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 2: and all of your success. 1345 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 3: You deserve it. 1346 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Well, you have to come play with me, please, and 1347 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I want to see your script. You have to come 1348 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: play with me on the couch, okay, perfect, And I 1349 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: need to read your script like me terrific? 1350 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 3: All right, all right, thank you, oh girl. 1351 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 2: Coming up on Off the Cup next week, I sit 1352 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 2: down with Stephen Weber, star of the nineties sitcom Wings. 1353 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 3: How does the role of Brian Hackett come to you? 1354 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 3: Good segue? Well, I mean that was first of all, 1355 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 3: I was that guy in many respects. I was kind 1356 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 3: of a snarky, affable dickhead. 1357 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 2: Off the Cup is a production of iHeart Podcasts as 1358 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 2: part of the Recent Choice network. 1359 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm your Host SI Cup. 1360 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 2: Editing and sound designed by Derek Clements. Our executive producers 1361 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 2: are Mesie Cup, Lauren Hanson, and Lindsay Hoffman. If you 1362 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 2: like Off the Cup, please rate and review wherever you 1363 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 2: get your podcasts, follow, or subscribe for new episodes every Wednesday.