1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Star in fris flowing to the SAT Scott Ta TA 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, Heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's. It's officially a say It with your 7 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Chest Friday here on Talking Cowboys. Welcome into the show 8 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: as we're gonna break down this Cowboys Giants matchup. We're 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: gonna talk through our predictions, we're gonna finish up our 10 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: first quarter grades, and guys, last week, first let me 11 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: introduce you guys before I get into this little spiel. 12 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Heck Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: And last week I mentioned that I don't think it 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: was time to even look at the panic button yet 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: the panic button wasn't even in the mail, wasn't even 16 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: in the mail, wasn't on the way, wasn't being shifted. Well, 17 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: after last week, I was like, Okay, maybe it's still 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: not time to make the order, but I've got it 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: in my cart. I've got the panic button. It's in 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: my cart on my Amazon It's it's ready to go. Yeah, yeah, 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's ready to go, just to click on 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: the button. Well, then we heard some news yesterday. Let's 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: just say the panic button may or may not be 24 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime to ride back into the mail head in 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: my direction in Frisco right now, because Tyrant Smith news 26 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: came out yesterday. It's not official yet, but the neck 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: issue has resurfaced. It was a reason why he was 28 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: out of practice on Wednesday, he was out again Thursday, 29 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: and now reevaluating the neck issue on whether or not 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: he should shut the season down. That's where we'll start 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: this Friday edition of Talking Cowboys. Didn't really want to 32 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: make this an injury report, but really this is a 33 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: huge blow to the Cowboys if it ends up being true. Rob. 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: What's the latest on what Tyrn Smith is dealing with? Yeah, 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: we're starting to say your Chess Friday off on a 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: down note. Left. Yeah, you know, basically as of now, 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: what Stephen Jones told our Nickietman yesterday is that indeed 38 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: all options are on the table, including surgery, to try 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: to correct the problem, because clearly he had some type 40 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: of setback after the game. You know, I mentioned yesterday 41 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: he played eighty two snaps. He played every snap in 42 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the game, but clearly he had some problems afterwards as 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: the week started, and you know, I think the Cowboys 44 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: were hopeful. You know, when he didn't practice Wednesday, it's like, okay, 45 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I figured he was going to 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: have a Romo type Wednesday thing as they went on 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: through this season, because uh, you know, they felt like 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: it was a situation. They you know, it didn't just 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: go away with the Browns game. They were gonna have 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: to manage it and make sure he's okay going forward 51 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: because the stuff can crop up pretty quickly. But obviously 52 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: getting a second opinion anytime you're talking about surgery, as 53 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: we saw with Lyle Collins who had surgery yesterday, if 54 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about it, it means it's a definitely a 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: real proposition, and it's it's tough. You know, when Jerry 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: Jones said on Tuesday on the Fan that his number 57 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: one concern wasn't the defense, he didn't talk about the defense. 58 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: He talked about the offensive line depth. Now we know why, 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: because now we're right back talking about how they're going 60 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: to fix things on the on the left side and 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the right side. Yeah, heck, I mean this is not good, Fellas, 62 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not good at all. Yeah, now 63 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: that's not good at all. Man. Obviously we know the 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: importance of having that man on the field. We need 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith. He is that dude on the left side. 66 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: He protects the backside of your franchise quarterback, of your 67 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: most valuable player on your team. That is going to 68 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: hurt with him not being there if he's taken from 69 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: somebody who's had seven surgeries. Okay, I've had seven of them, 70 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: all right, and I think three of them occurred here 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: in Dallas. Seven damn it. Man. Hey, I'm just saying, Hey, 72 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: I took a licking and I came back taking you 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But take it from somebody who's 74 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: been through it and been through injuries. And I even 75 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: like my time here in Dallas, where it wasn't the 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: greatest career that I wanted, of course, but it was 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: played with injuries. I came in with coming off of 78 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: surgery rehab from that, and then I faced three surgeries 79 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: in a row here in Dallas, right, two shoulder surgeries 80 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: and a knee surgery. Two of those surgeries. I played 81 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: the whole year with the pain, but knowing that at 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: the end of the year I was gonna have to 83 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: get surgery. So I played less than one hundred percent 84 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: shoulder popping in and out, dealing with the pain, dealing 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: with the you know, scruciating pain that comes with that. 86 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: But I knew and I was gonna have to shut 87 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: it down after the offseason or maybe even sometime during 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: the season. They get it taken care of, if they 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: know that they're his guy going forward, is probably a 90 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: smart move to secure the bag and make sure that 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: he's good going forward. But you just hate to have 92 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: to do that at the sacrifice of potentially this season. 93 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: You came in with a laborum right with the Cowboys. 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I no, I came in with my foot I had. 95 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: I had a little frank jury, but I had labor 96 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: laboramu meniscus. So I just Dallas didn't like me apparently 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: with my body. But uh, the league was rough to me. 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 1: But I mean, but I mean, but it just sucks. 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: It sucks. And we we've been we've been talking about 100 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: this office, the line for a long time, and this 101 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: obviously it doesn't sound good to believe me, if you're 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: talking about it, ask somebody who's had it. It's it's 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: it's a rat heck. I mean, it would make me 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: feel good at all whenever it comes to this office. 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: You said last night on our on our on our 106 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: text group last night, you said you had the bubble 107 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: guts again. Yeah. I was about to lead him into 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: that convert because I know you're nervous about this, just 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: in the fact of having a left tackle and a 110 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: right tackle now out for the season. If that ends 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: up being the decision, Now you've got a revolving door. 112 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be Brandon Night, is gonna be Terran Steele? 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: You've got Jordan Mills, You've got Greg sat I mean, 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: you've got a bevy of options, but none of them 115 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: are Tyrn Smith, no man. And I think my upset 116 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: stomach and indigestion started with the retiring of Ving Fresh. 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: So I mean it's just been it's steadily, you know, 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: steady decline and guys being hurt and just the injury news. 119 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I thought, just like you did, Rob that you know, 120 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: we were just taking those I wouldn't say senior citizen 121 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: days are just days off of giving your veteran guys 122 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of rest. But when the news came 123 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: out that there was a setback from from the Cleveland 124 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: game or whatever he's dealing with, and and even going 125 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: back to a conversation that I had with Joe Thomas 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: about stingers and saying that that's the only way to 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: alleviate it for a lot of guys is by going 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: to get those surgeries to widen the nerves. So it look, 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: it gives us, It gives me pauls As to say, look, 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: what do we do for the rest of the season. 131 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: It also tells you why they are bringing in so 132 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: many guys in having those auditions every day at the 133 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. But look, we have a game on Sunday, 134 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: and we gotta go with the guys that we have. 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Brandon Knight. If you are a ward daddy, let's 136 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: see it all right, Tara Steele, It's it's your job 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: to lose at this point, and it looks how else 138 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: do you adjust your game plan at this point? If 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: you're the Dallas Cowboys, knowing that you are going to 140 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: go through twelve games without your veteran left tackle, it's 141 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: amazing that they've played four games and they've got the 142 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: number one offense and the third highest scoring offense, because 143 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: I think when when Tyran first went down before the 144 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: Atlantic game, it was like, can they function? You know? 145 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: And it hasn't been the way they've wanted to, but 146 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: they have been able to move the ball at least 147 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: in the passing game. So I guess that's encouraging. But 148 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: you hate to see this, and yeah, it does bring 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: up the question what are they gonna do? Because you know, 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: if you want to put Brandon Knight at left tackle, 151 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that's probably your best option. They're getting like 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: heck yeah, like as Heckma said, though they've got more 153 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: options potentially at right tackle. I know people, Kyle, I 154 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: don't know, if you want to get into all the 155 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: different combinations, people are gonna ask should they move Zach 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Martin out to right tackle? I think that comes down 157 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: to whether you feel I think Mike McCarthy doesn't want 158 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: to do that. I don't think he doesn't want to 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: change a bunch of spots. But to me, it might 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: come down to whether you feel better about a Connor 161 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: McGovern playing tackle better than your options at right tackle. 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: You know you juggle the two and say, okay, because 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about best five personally, guys. I mean 164 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: I think you know, it eliminates concern of one on 165 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: one matchups because you're gonna have you saw it with 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett against Terrence Steele last week. Eventually, guys are 167 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to just hold their own and so who's 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: your best five? I think they still got to figure 169 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: that out, and they still gotta be I think they 170 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: gotta be flexible too at just as it goes. If 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: it's not working, try something else. Hey, but Rob, I 172 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: have a question for you and and Kyle. Heck, even 173 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: when you find the five, do you really expect him 174 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: to give a hundred percent for all seventy plays? You 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: damn right? Yes? Oh wow, we yeah, we didn't talk 176 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: about that yesterday. No we didn't. No, no, we didn't. 177 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: We can get into that if you want to. But 178 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: that's a setup. That's a setup. You set me up there, 179 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: like yeah. So he's referring, of course, to what Xavier 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Woods had to say about the defensive side of the 181 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: football and that you're not quote unquote expected to play 182 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent at one hundred percent of the time ultimately, 183 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: is what he ended up saying earlier in the week. 184 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: So transferring that over to the offensive line though, and 185 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to go off of what what 186 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: Rob was just saying with the best five, Terrence Steele 187 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: probably isn't a part of that best five? Correct? Would 188 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: we all agree with that? Terren Steele not a part 189 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: of the best five? Who else do you have? Who 190 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: else do you have behind tarn Still? I mean, at 191 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: this point, we're talking about moving Zack Martin now to 192 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: right tackle, and that's going to leave a deficiency right 193 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle of our offensive line. We're 194 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: already starting a rookie at center, and we already have 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: a big question mark over our left guard. You know, 196 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Zack Martin to me, I think he gives that assistance 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: and at least gives you the state of mind going 198 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: into a game that you're strong next to some of 199 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: your weaker links. I don't know how you put him 200 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: out on the island and expect for the middle of 201 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: your offensive line to have be solid at all. I 202 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I think that would be a mistake to 203 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: do that, especially with Looney now dealing with an mcl 204 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: I agree, go ahead, us don't. I don't know who 205 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: our best five is. I know we got nine offensive 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: tackles within this roster, so there's some guys that we 207 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: don't even know what the they can do. So at 208 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: this point, go out there and put your pass rushers. 209 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 1: I put Alden Smith out there, pick d law on it, 210 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: put Randy Gregory and having to do one on ones 211 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: all practice today and find out who the heck is 212 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: a dog and that's who you put out there on 213 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the field. Oklahoma, Drill drill second. Tried to do that. Yeah, 214 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm with heck. I mean I would feel better about 215 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: maybe kicking Zach out to right tackle if you had 216 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Looney in the middle there. I think having his presence 217 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: probably helps be Oddish and uh, you know, look for 218 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: cam Irving at some point. I think he's definitely making progress. 219 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: They have two open spots on their fifty three right now, 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: so you know, Anthony Brown could take one of those 221 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: this week coming off I R and possibly cam Irving 222 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: as early as this week, maybe next week. And we'll 223 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: see about Laton vander Esh But but I think they 224 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: think he's getting close, so he becomes an option for 225 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: you soon. I just don't know if it's gonna be 226 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: at least a couple of weeks. Probably uh, with with 227 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: the MCL, MCL usually you know, two to four or 228 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: something like that. So they got to roll with the 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: rookie there in the middle there for the time being, 230 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing. I 231 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: think be Odish has done a fine job of popping 232 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: in there and even in the middle of that offense. 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Now look at that, and you look at that good, 234 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: good way that I've always I'd like, be honest, I 235 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: said a long time ago that Beyondes should have been 236 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: a starter and Luna should be playing guard. I said 237 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: that a long time ago. Oh, I like him, throw 238 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: him in there. We also we also said with a 239 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: short training camp that Beodish would probably not be the 240 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: starter at the beginning of the year, but ultimately would 241 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: transition into that role. And I think we're starting to 242 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: see that, maybe a little bit earlier than what was 243 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: anticipated due to the MCL injury to Luny, But overall, 244 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: Beyondest should really his job right now, and I don't 245 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he even really which is it's 246 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: not that early. Only have you only have seventy five 247 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: percent more games to play. That's true. Yeah, yeah, I'm 248 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: three quarters of the season left to go. There's a 249 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: lot of football left to be played here, Isaiah. Now, yes, 250 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: with that being said, sticking with the theme of there's 251 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot of football left to be played, and Rob 252 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: mentioned it, Isaiah mentioned it, Layton Vanderesh still looking ahead 253 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: of schedule. Yesterday hearing practice he not only had a 254 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: helmet on, but he also had pads and he was 255 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: in team not team drills, but he was in individual 256 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: position drills throughout the course of the morning. So even yesterday, 257 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, he didn't rule out not having Layton Vanderesh, 258 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: but he also didn't necessarily say he was going to 259 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: play on Sunday. I still don't expect him to play 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: on Sunday. But Rob, is this something that we can 261 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: maybe see going into Week six against Arizona? Or do 262 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: we take the there's a lot of football left to 263 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: play approach? It's crazy we're talking about this because he's 264 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: what is he three weeks removed from having the play 265 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: put in and the plate you know, it does accelerate 266 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: the healing process. So and they say he's ahead of schedules, 267 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: so we'll just see how he does. You're right, Mike 268 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't rule it out. I don't know how realistic that is. 269 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: It depends on how he did yesterday. He's not on 270 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: the injury report because he's on IR, so they said 271 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: he was gonna try to do some stuff yesterday. You know, 272 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: next week they have a little bit longer week. I 273 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know if that really matters, but they play a 274 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: Monday night game I think October nineteenth, so it's a 275 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: little bit of a longer week. Maybe it's possible he 276 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: gets back by then, but you know, wow, you know, 277 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: usually when you're with collar bones, you're talking about six 278 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: weeks minimum. So's he's Superman. Apparently he's doing well. He's 279 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: got he's got to be man. And Isaiah being our 280 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: resident doctor here on the podcast, I mean, you talk 281 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: about a bone healing fast. That's crazy to me. Even 282 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: when I saw the images and we talked about it yesterday, 283 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even think that it was realistic that he 284 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: would be back. But when you hear Mike McCarthy saying 285 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: that he could play Sunday, I don't know what I'm 286 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to register how is that possible 287 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: or even how can he be back versus Arizona. But apparently, 288 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: with the medical advancements, that bone is healing quickly and 289 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: he could be back playing medal. He could be back 290 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: playing middle linebacker by next Monday. Smoke signals. Smoke signals 291 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: this dude, you would be setting him up for failure. 292 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: We talked. I did mention you know here. I told 293 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: you guys that bones hill substantially faster. You can put 294 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: poems and bones hill fast. However, however, okay, him practicing, 295 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: don't get too excited. He's practicing with pads on. Yes, 296 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: he's practice with a helping on. Yes. But we ain't 297 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: said nothing about him hitting anybody. Yep. Okay, that collar bone, 298 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: that neck, nothing about that prevents you from going out 299 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: there and running around the practice field. Okay, but I 300 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: guarantee you he hasn't hit not one person, nor do 301 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: they intend on him hitting anybody over the next few weeks. 302 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: And if they do, I think that this would be 303 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: I love the training staff, but I and I respect 304 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: Jim Bow and all those guys. I don't. I can't 305 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: see them putting him out there. I just can't see 306 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: them they care too much about their guys. If they 307 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: do that, then I feel like they're probably getting pressure 308 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: from somewhere else because you're setting him up for failure. Yeah, 309 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I just I mean think about it, Like and Mike 310 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: said he probably would do some limited stuff potentially yesterday, 311 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: which doesn't mean full team or anything like that. That 312 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: would be his first time out there period, in pads, whatever, 313 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: in basically a month. I think, like September twelfth was 314 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: they had a practice the day before the game, the 315 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: opener against the Rams. Like that's one practice and you 316 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: put him out there. That's that's kind of hard to see. 317 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: You can put him out there in a deep sea 318 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: diving outfit and he's still not gonna be playing in 319 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: the games. It doesn't matter. He won't be. He should 320 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: not be. Let me put it this way, he should 321 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: not be playing for at least another three weeks. In 322 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, I'm confused where the deep sea diving reference 323 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: came from, but whatever I'm gonna stick with it is 324 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: that you know the navy man, you know that the 325 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: heavy the heavy outfit. Okay, okay, okay, so like military 326 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: grade stuff is what we're talking about here. Jorn uh Yeah, 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: and whenever it comes to late. In vander ash yesterday 328 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: during the media portion of practice, there was actually a 329 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: moment where he kind of I don't know if it 330 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: was a joke or what what it ended up being, 331 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: but there was a bit of a pad tackling drill 332 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: that the defense and even some of the offense the 333 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: special teams were going through on the other side where 334 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: they were tackling dummies, and he kind of went and 335 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: got in line and Jalen Smith like kind of kind 336 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: of hugged him and gave him a little pat on 337 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: the back. I was like, yeah, not yet, buddy, let's 338 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: not get ahead. And I think it might have been 339 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: a joke between the two, but from afar it looked 340 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: kind of funny, just that chopping at the bit mentality 341 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: with Layton vander Esch. He's a leader, he's somebody that 342 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: you want on your defense, but you also want him 343 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: to stay healthy for an elongated period of time. I 344 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: think that needs to be the priority, and I think 345 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: it is the priority on the other side of the building. 346 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: And hopefully lvs ready to go for a lengthy period 347 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: of time. 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Kyle Yeomen's Isaiah stand Back, 387 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and the fantastic mister heck Ma Harrison with 388 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: you up until ten o'clock today as we break down 389 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: this Cowboys Giants game and also looking back a little bit. 390 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna finish up what we've done all week long. 391 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: And this has been a fun segment because there's been 392 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: some debate, there's been some disagreements, there's been some honeycrisp 393 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: apples involved, There's been so many different things thrown around 394 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: during this segment. But it's our first quarter grades and 395 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: we've talked about the offense in terms of the passing game, 396 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: the running game, the trenches with offensive and defensive line. 397 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday we attacked the defense and went linebackers and safeties 398 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and those were some pretty harsh grades. But now we 399 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: go into special teams and the coaching staff, and this 400 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: is through the first couple of weeks of the season. 401 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: We can be easy on the coaching staff and just 402 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: do it as a whole. We don't have to attack 403 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: certain individuals or talk about certain individuals at this point, 404 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: just coaching as a whole what you think thought so far? 405 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: But special teams will start things off here. It hasn't 406 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: been pretty for the Cowboys at times, but at other times. 407 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: Its actually one year, your first football game, uh, and 408 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: your only football game of the year so far. But Isaiah, 409 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: what do you think in terms of this special teams 410 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: unit so far in twenty twenty D minus oh D minus? Okay? 411 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: They have had entirely too many mistakes. Entirely too many mistakes. 412 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: The only positive thing that I've seen from this unit 413 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: is obviously the watermelon kick, which you really shouldn't have 414 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: been in a situation anyway because you messed up earlier 415 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: in the game. Um. And also their their their punt 416 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: coverage has been good. Their their punt coverage has been 417 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: pretty respectable. Uh. And they with their gunners. Their gunners 418 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: are getting down the field enforcing fair catches like nobody's business. 419 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: So I respect them for that. But aside from that, 420 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: it has not been good. UM in terms of not 421 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: it seems you said we can lump it all together. Yeah, yeah, 422 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: so it's a it's a D minus for me, for 423 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: the coach, for the for the special team's coach, and 424 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: this unit. UM. I think that they're trying hard, but 425 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: their lack of execution. UM kudos that are coached for 426 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: calling it. But you know, when the guys aren't aren't 427 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: making them making the necessary plays, you got to get 428 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: somebody else in there. And there's just no there's no 429 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: room for errors on special teams. It's just too it's 430 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: too important a portion of the game. It's a third 431 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: of the game, and people always forget that. All right, heck, 432 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: all right. Well, the going theme around here has been 433 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: that for as a coaching staff, we hadn't been very aggressive, 434 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: and now we have a coaching staff that has been 435 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: overly aggressive. And Chris Jones is where Chris Jones passed 436 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: away from obviously executing a great fake punt. I think 437 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: all of the failed attempts you can look at, and 438 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: we talked at length about the Squift kick in the 439 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland game. But when it comes down to other areas, 440 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: in other areas and for special teams, I have the 441 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: feeling like Ceedee Lamb is getting close. I feel as 442 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: though somebody's gonna We're gonna cover one, and Ceedee Lamb 443 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: is going to put the Lambeau on the runway, uh 444 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: and go take one to the house. I just look, 445 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: there are other areas that you look at that you 446 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: just oh, man, we need improvement on that. And I 447 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: never liked pats or field goals turning into events. So 448 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see minus overall and just leave it 449 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: at that. I like it. Love that explanation, Rob. I 450 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: got some apples ready for you, guys, because I got 451 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to the sea. I'm 452 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna go to the sea because I know, I know. 453 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: But look, they would be owing four right now if 454 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: they didn't pull off that kick. And that was a 455 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: hell of a play. That's one of the best craziest 456 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: plays I've ever seen that that that helps the curve 457 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: a little, gives them a passing great rough Yeah, yeah, 458 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: I think so. Now, look, it hasn't been good. It 459 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been good overall, and John Fossil spoke to that, 460 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: But you guys hit on some things they have done well. 461 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: You're right, Isaiah. The coverage has been pretty good. They 462 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: haven't allowed any big returns really, uh in kickoffs or 463 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: punt um ceedee. Lamb, like heck said, has been effective 464 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: as a returner. That's been a problem in the past. 465 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: At punt returns. And I know Greg Zerline had a 466 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: blocked extra point, he's missed a kick, but he's definitely 467 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: an upgrade. I think he's definitely an upgrade over Brett Maher. 468 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: So there's some things they can they can build on. 469 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: But if not for your special teams, you were a 470 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: winless football team. Right now, at the end of that game, 471 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: you're a winless football team. So if that's why I 472 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: got to give him a little a little bit higher 473 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: right before before Kyle goes, can I just help everybody 474 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: remember because I'm a specialist. I was a special specialist 475 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: in the league, more more than I was a receiver 476 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: or quarterback or even a tight end. Right, I was 477 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: a specialist. That's what I did. Um, let me just 478 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: remind everybody. So there was a miss extra point yep. Yes, 479 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: a block fail goal because we failed to block it 480 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: up properly. Yes, Um, A terrible squid kick that had 481 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: that was pointless, right, and I'm not sure what the 482 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: point of that was. Yes, Um, don't forget about kickoff returns. Yeah, 483 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: kick kickoff returns off is like kick off is like pointless. 484 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Like the NFL needs to change it. It's ridiculous. I 485 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: was a part of the XFL and they did a 486 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: good job changing that. The NFL needs to figure this 487 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: out because that's a point display right now. But um, 488 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: and then let's also not forget the fact if that 489 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: we had two fake punts that failed, right, and that's 490 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: all within the first four weeks, there's no way they 491 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: have a passing grade. But I'm gonna I'm gonna, like Kyle, 492 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: determine that. But it's the power of the watermelon kick, 493 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: don't the power? Man? No A C minus. Let's see 494 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: C minus come on the paths to rob. You can't 495 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: put too much weight on a watermelon kick because the 496 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: watermelon kick only was successful because of the lack of 497 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: execution by Atlanta Falcons defender. That is it? Hey, that's 498 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: all that's maybe it's not, that's not it was no. Hey, 499 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: you're you're absolutely correct, But it wasn't that. It was 500 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: just this amazing. It was a great kick. Doesn't not 501 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: get it wrong. But had that gentleman done when he 502 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: was supposed to do, there would still be an on fourteen. 503 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: That's not how the statuate. Breeze man, how's this one? Listen? 504 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: Whenever you're let's go across the street from where that 505 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: watermelon kick happened, And yesterday the Dodgers and the Padres 506 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: were playing in globally Field. You think at some point 507 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Joe Kelly was like, no, I'm gonna throw a curveball 508 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: or a fastball instead of a curveball here, because you know, 509 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: as a as a Padres hitter on the other side, 510 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: you should be able to hit that ball. No, you 511 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: try and change it up a little bit. You throw 512 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: a curveball at him. That's what the special teams did, 513 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: and that's why that did that kick ended up working. 514 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: Did the Dodgers lose that game? No? They won. No, 515 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. I'm saying they won that game 516 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: because we know who would sleep on the game, Dodgers. 517 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: Dodgers are going to the NLCS. Anyways, back to football, 518 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with hecma here. I'm not up to 519 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: a sea, but I'm at a sem I thought, heck, 520 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: I explained it. Well, there's goods, there's bads. There hasn't 521 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: necessarily been any sort of u of positive in the 522 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: kick return, but there's been a lot of positive in 523 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: the pump return, and even with the kicking game. I 524 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: don't really put a ton of stock in block kicks. 525 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: I think you can share that up pretty quickly here. 526 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: I think Greg Surline gives you an opportunity at some point. 527 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: You haven't seen it yet to knock through any kind 528 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: of field goal from long distance. They haven't had a 529 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: chance to do any of that field goal. I'm looking 530 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: at you, Isaiah, I see you doing this. It's ah, 531 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: remember this first one. I'm saying it. So I just 532 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: want to make sure that we're clear here because I 533 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: know you guys are all educated individuals, and you guys 534 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: are putting a lot of weight on the on the 535 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: watermelon kicks. So that's a one positive correct, YEA one 536 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: positive Okay. So well, there's a couple we've had We've 537 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: had a uh okay, there's one main positive that that's 538 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: only one play that we can we got turned to it. 539 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: There's been a couple of good what twelve yard returns 540 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: or something like that by by CD Lamb. That's that's it. 541 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: But we've had a drop kickoff return, we've had a 542 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: miss extra point, we've had a block extra field goal, 543 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: we've had two failed punts. We've had a terrible squid 544 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: here so I'm naming like six to seven negatives, and 545 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: you guys are putting all the weight on one positive. 546 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: We're not saying this is an A or an A plus. 547 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: If you take all those things away, it may be 548 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: a B or a B plus. But we're not even 549 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: there yet. You gave you gave him a D. You 550 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: gave him a D minus. Right. I guarantee you he 551 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: would say the same thing. That is not a that 552 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: is not acceptable on special teams. You don't get enough 553 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: plays on special teams every game to make mistakes like 554 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: these guys are making. These are technical errors. These aren't 555 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: just things that happen. No, you don't. You don't bring 556 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: up a valid point. You don't drop a ballot point. 557 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: As a kickoff returner for the former Dallas formerly as 558 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys, you don't drop kickoff returns. You don't, 559 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: especially when they're in the area they're curveballs, you don't 560 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: drop them. So so that's bad. Okay. You don't give 561 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: up block field goals. You don't do that. You don't 562 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: do that, not, not not with that, not technique wise, 563 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't miss extra points D minus, right, 564 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't do that right, and guess what, 565 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: and when you're back and when you run a fake punt, 566 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: you make sure that you do your job. And they 567 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: did not twice twice. And look at the raplifications of 568 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: those plays. Look at that. Look what happened on those 569 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: negative plays. Yeah, it didn't go well. No, it didn't 570 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: go It didn't go well. And it's not like we're 571 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: giving them an A minus, B plus any of that. 572 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: Just c mind. But you're passing them onto the next 573 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: grade though. Heck him, you're pat letting him go. You're 574 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: letting them advance within your educational system. And that's you 575 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: know what, Isaiah, you right, this is the one time 576 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: you have changed all right, yeah, all right? A D plus? 577 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: Can I give him a D plus and give that 578 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: worse deep still passing? No, according to the grade, No, 579 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: it is not where where we're over that half a 580 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: letter grade. He's not gonna litterize. He's sixty five to 581 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: sixty nine percent. That's where they're at right now. If that, 582 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you're fighting over what could have been seventy 583 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: one to sixty nine whatever. Let's move on to our 584 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff. I mean, we can talk about the special teams. 585 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: And whether or not they've been good. None of us 586 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: said they were good. I just want to lay that 587 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: out there, and I just want to say a passing 588 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: grade at a C minus is different than getting an 589 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: A or an A minus. Anyways, going to the coaching 590 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: staff and like I said, lumping all of this together, 591 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: mostly talking about play calling here. Whenever you're looking at 592 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football and the offensive side, 593 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: we can kind of balance it and Tito totter it 594 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: back and forth. But I'll start things off in terms 595 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: of play calling, and really because of what Kellen Moore 596 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: has done on the offensive side of the football to 597 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: adjust for what is a banged up offensive line, I 598 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: think it off balances what I could have given an 599 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: F on the defensive side of the football, but I'll 600 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: give it a solid D plus. And really that's the 601 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: only thing I can look at from a positive standpoint, 602 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: because I think Kellvin Moore is getting better as a 603 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: play caller and we're starting to see that evolution. However, 604 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan has just kind of struggled on the defensive 605 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: side of the football, and I don't necessarily think he's 606 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: done a good job of putting his players in the 607 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: best scenario in where their talent is utilized the best. Isaiah, 608 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: what have you've got on this grade? See? Were you 609 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: talking about the offensive the defense both? I mean, that's 610 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm combining them together. We don't have 611 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: time to do both. Here makes things a little tougher. 612 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore gives them a full letter grade upgrade off 613 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: of what I would have given them. I give them 614 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: a C combined. Okay, I would. I would too, because 615 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, what they've had to deal with upfront. Still, 616 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: with the numbers they've put up, I know it hasn't 617 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: led to winning. Some of their biggest problems have just 618 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: been not taking care of the ball defensively. There's a 619 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: lot of problems to go around. I think the coaches 620 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: have taken blame for it. Players have said, we got 621 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 1: to be better with assignments. So it kind of all 622 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: goes together. I think if you average it out, it's 623 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: probably about to see so far. Okay, Mike McCarthy said, look, 624 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: it all falls on me right now, where one in 625 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: three it starts with me. It's true. Yeah, I love that, 626 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's just more coaches speak. You know, it's 627 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: my job to get these guys in the right places. 628 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: And look, when you average it out on both sides 629 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: of the ball, and this team isn't gonna get a 630 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: mulligan for the climate that we're in with the pandemic 631 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: or any of that, because all thirty one other teams, 632 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: all thirty two teams are dealing with the same thing. 633 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of that has to do 634 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: with the execution of the scheme. Defensively, we're just not 635 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: able to execute the scheme. That's just it, all right. Offensively, 636 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: that looks to be some continuity, especially with the way 637 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: that Dak is able to leave these drives and those 638 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: come from behind efforts. But you know, look, you just 639 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: get a smelly sticker for doing that, especially if you 640 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: don't win the game. And I'm trying to be positive here, 641 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying one thing just kind of takes 642 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: out the other. So y'all, y'all crack me up, man. 643 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Look like my whole what I'm saying is I hate 644 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: the banana sit and I hate I love that. I 645 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: love the roof bear sit. 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Back here on the other 701 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: side of the break, Aaron Talking Cowboys, As we've now 702 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: gained our footing and stopped laughing from scratching sniffstick or 703 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: references and whatnot throughout our grading standpoint, but we are 704 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back. 705 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: Get the ultimate fan experience for the ultimate Cowboys fan 706 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: joined Dallas Cowboys United, presented by a Globe Life starting 707 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: at just twenty dollars visit Dallas Cowboys dot com Slash 708 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: United and guys, we were now to the end of 709 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: the week. Of course, every Friday at this time we 710 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: predict four games. We predict three games throughout the regular 711 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: NFL schedule, including the Sunday night game, the Monday night game, 712 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: and then an insert getting name or a game here. 713 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: And then we've capped things off on the week with 714 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys game, and we've got we've got some standings 715 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: to update. And mister Rob Phillips had himself a week 716 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: last week. He went three and one and has now 717 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: taken a sole advantage of the standings lead five and two. 718 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: A week ago, both Hecmah and Isaiah went two and 719 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: two and even five hundred, so that puts Isaiah at 720 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: four and three, squarely in second place. Heckma, after a 721 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: slow start one and two, is back to three and 722 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: four and I went one in three last week. I 723 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: did not have a week. Yeah, and uh so I'm 724 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: at So we're all separated by two games. At the moment, 725 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: Rob has the lead, which means he gets to go first. 726 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: He's at five and two, And we're gonna start with 727 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: the Colts and those now hated Cleveland Browns. Both teams 728 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: at three and one. The Colts have allowed less than 729 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: twelve points in three straight games. That defense is firing 730 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: on all cylinders, both teams at three and one. Rob 731 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: who you got in that one? Oh? No, Nick Chubb? Right? No, Nick? 732 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: A little bit. For Cleveland, I'll roll with Philip Rivers. 733 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: It's the advantage at quarterback. Despite what we saw from 734 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last week, I think the Browns luck for 735 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: now runs out with a Colts victory. Okay, this is 736 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, by the way, and also for the fans 737 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: watching on periscope, send in your picks as well throughout 738 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: the course of the segment. All Right, heckma, who you got? Yeah, 739 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough matchup. Man, the Cleveland Browns. 740 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: They left here the neighborhood hero. Everybody's talking about Stefanski 741 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: and all the great work that he's doing with the 742 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: offensive line in Callahan, and but I think they run 743 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: into a bus. All that Indianapolis defense is for real, 744 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully my guy Philip Rivers isn't going 745 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: to turn over the ball and give them the opportunities 746 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: that we did. So I'm going to Indie is zam Hey. 747 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: My mascot, my mascot of high school as a dog 748 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: mascot in college was a dog. So I'm going with 749 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: them dogs this weekend. I'm gonna ahead and go with Cleveland. Wow. Okay, 750 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: so you're going with Cleveland, I'm gonna go with Indianapolis here. 751 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: Top three offensive line, top three defense. I think they 752 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: get the job done, even with Philip Rivers. Maybe gonna 753 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: give an opportunity here and there to the Cleveland Browns. 754 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: I think this will be a great game and it's 755 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: one that I know I'll be watching kind of alongside 756 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys game on Sunday. Okay, here we go Sunday 757 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: Night football. The Vikings, who desperately need a win at 758 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: one in three, going up against Russell Wilson and a 759 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: four and oh Seattle Seahawks team, by the way, Russell 760 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: Wilson six and oh career against Minnesota. I think they 761 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: make it seven and oh, and I'm picking Seattle to win. Isaiah, 762 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: who you got Seattle? That's easy boys, Yeah, easy win 763 00:39:53,040 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: for him? All right, Hackma, I'm gonna I'm yeah, definitely Seattle. ROBERTA, Yep, 764 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: we'll make it a clean sweep. If it's Russ, if 765 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady, if it's Pat Mahomes, if it's Aaron Rodgers, 766 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I'm probably gonna take their team. And if 767 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Seattle wins. It's weird how there 768 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: was no Kirk Cousins on that list that you just mentioned. 769 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I don't know. I've just wanted to mention that. 770 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: By the way, the Cowboys not the only team with 771 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: some disappointing starts to the season. Because the Vikings one 772 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: and three, they could very easily be one and four 773 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: by the time by the time that the weekend's over. Okay, 774 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: another one and three team, the Los Angeles Chargers, going 775 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: up against the Saints back at the Superdome, and just 776 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: a reminder, the Chargers starting to find a little bit 777 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: of rhythm here. They've had a tough schedule to start 778 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: the season as well. Now they've got Justin Herbert as 779 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: the full time starter at quarterback in New Orleans. Four 780 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: of their last five games against the Chargers have resulted 781 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: in a win. Rob, Who you got in this one? Oh? 782 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: I got a side with experience. Go with Drew Brees. 783 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: Herbert's got a lot of talent, but there he's gonna 784 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: have some growing pains, I feel like, and the Dome's 785 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: not gonna have the dome type environment. But I'll still 786 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: take the Saints at home. I'm gonna Saints at home. 787 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: Two guys make it easy, okay, saying say, I'm gonna 788 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: go to New Orleans across the board since we had 789 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: two games that were clean sweeps, I'm gonna throw a 790 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: bonus in there, and hopefully this game gets played, because 791 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: we're really we want everybody to stay healthy and stay 792 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: careful in this. But I do want to do this 793 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: as an extra game on top, just in case it 794 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: is played, because I think it's gonna be a fantastic 795 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: one if it is. Ryan Tannehill and the Tennessee Titans 796 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: up against the Buffalo Bills, both teams undefeated. The Titans, 797 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: of course, having their game postpone last week against Pittsburgh. 798 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: Now they have a matchup with the Bills. If this 799 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: game gets played, I'm gonna take the Bills on the 800 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: road against Tennessee to take down the Titans and move 801 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: to five. And oh, I think the Bills Mafia is 802 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: the real deal in this one. But this is gonna 803 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: be a good game. Isaiah. Let the Buffalo roan. I'm 804 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: all about them Bills. They're they're really good team. Nema M. 805 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: I gotta get some separation here, so I'm gonna go. 806 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Tennessee. I'm gonna go Tennessee. My mind 807 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: sets one thing, but I know I gotta I gotta 808 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: get some separations, So I'm going Titans on this one. 809 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Bills. There's too much going 810 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: on with the Titans right now, and I hope they 811 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: can get it all corrected and everybody's okay. But I 812 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: gotta go with Buffalo. They're rolling right now. Thoughts and 813 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: prayers with that organization, not only with the players, but 814 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: even the personnel who had tested positive for COVID nineteen 815 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: and hopefully that situation gets under raps pretty quickly and 816 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: they everybody can stay safe. Now onto the big one. 817 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: We've got about two and a half minutes left. Cowboys, Giants, 818 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: the return of Jay Geez back to AT and T Stadium. 819 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: You've got the Cowboys looking to get back on track 820 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: at one and three, and then really just trying to 821 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: get on the track for the Giants as they come 822 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: in at oh and four, needing Joe Judge his first 823 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: win of his New York Giants tenure. I'm gonna go 824 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: first on this one. I'll make it easy on everybody 825 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: once again. I had the fake out the first couple 826 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: of weeks. I'm not doing any fake out. I think 827 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys take care of business here. I think it 828 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: might be a little bit closer early on first three quarters. 829 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a nerve racking first three quarters. 830 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys stick with a lead though a 831 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: short one, and then they pull away late to get 832 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: their second win of the year. You get back to 833 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: two and three and then have a long week ahead 834 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: to where you can maybe take advantage of the Arizona 835 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals coming up on Monday Night football. But I think 836 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys here in Week five get a win. They 837 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: get back to two and three and take down the 838 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett offensively led Giants on the other side. Rob 839 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: any any score projections, I'll do a score thirty four 840 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven, Oh, no, thirty four, twenty four, twenty four, 841 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: let twenty four, twenty four, Yeah, thirty four twenty four 842 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: ten points win. I got all right, I got about 843 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: a ten point win. Two, I'll go thirty twenty one 844 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys nine point win. I think it comes down to 845 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: chunk plays for me. Can the Giants get anything going 846 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: down the field to give them put themselves in scoring 847 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: position because they have their their explosive plays are very 848 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: very low and the Cowboys have the ability to do 849 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: that on any given play. I think that that that 850 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: leads to more wins than anything, if you can take 851 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: care of the ball. And so I think, you know, 852 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys just more explosive offensively, they're gonna win this game. 853 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: Heck yep, And oh are you going? You going? Me 854 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: can go? He was, he was ready to go. Oh yeah, 855 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: I just got Cowboys forty two seventeen. Whoa, Okay, So 856 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: you think it's not even close? Yeah? Is this? If 857 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: this is close, then we have bigger problems than we 858 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: Then we think the defense is averaging giving up what 859 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: thirty eight points in the last three games, that doesn't 860 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: look good. Yeah. If everybody in the national media laughing 861 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: at you, you know, questioning whether you have the heart 862 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: to play this game, the defense has to stand up. 863 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: They have to get it together offensively, just don't turn 864 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: the ball over and be smart. The New York Giants 865 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: having scored a touchdown since Week two, I don't expect 866 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: for them to get in rhythm here in at and 867 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: T Stadium, at least I hope they don't. So I'm 868 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: predicting the score somewhere around the twenty eight to thirteen. 869 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: But I believe that this is an easy win for 870 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. That's true. I think it will be 871 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: a lower scoring game than than really even we anticipated. 872 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: I think twenty eight thirteen might be the closest thing 873 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: that we see to the final score because this defense 874 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: for the Giants pretty stout. They play together, they play fast, 875 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: they play aggressive. The offense of the Cowboys, we know 876 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: what they bring to the table. I think it'll kind 877 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: of stifle each other out. But ultimately I think Cowboys 878 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: are a better team, and then so does everybody. As 879 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: we go across the board picking Dallas on Sunday once 880 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: again that one on CBS, Jim Nance and our boy 881 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: Tony Romo on the call of that one. Hope you'll 882 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: join us on Monday at nine thirty, win or lose, 883 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: we'll break it all down for you. We'll party together 884 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: if it's a win, or we'll really be talking about 885 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: hitting that panic button come Monday morning. If it's a 886 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: one in four start for the Cowboys, however, that's gonna 887 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: do it here this week for Talking Cowboys. Glad you've 888 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 1: been with us over the last five day special thanks 889 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: to Chris Beam in the Bank special, thanks to Isaiah Stanback, 890 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and heck My Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying 891 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: so long from the start in Frisco. Thanks for listening 892 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys. 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