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Thanks for making us part of your day. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: One hour from now. Colin Wright, Colin Rong, Matt Hasselbeck, 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins to the Buffalo bill stops by off a wild, 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: wild game last night. I'm gonna tell you something. That's 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: the best Week one in the NFL. Remember Week one 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: of college football Labor Day weekend. We're like, that's the 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: best college football weekend I've ever seen. That is the 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: best week one. Not done? You get the controversial enigmatic 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Bears against Minnesota, mystery at quarteraback. What a weekend starting 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Thursday where the Cowboys took the Eagles to the very end. 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: But last night's a classic unbelievable game. 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: Josh Allen obviously the MVP for a reason, best player 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: in the league. 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, when the Ravens win a wild game, my take 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: is usually, oh, Lamar Jackson must have played well. When 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: the Bills win a wild game, might take his Oh, oh, 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, they put the cape on him. Lamar Jackson's 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: part of a great roster, a super Bowl winning coach. 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: I never feel like the organization lets him down, and 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: he has sputtered in big playoff spots. Josh Allen's passer 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: rating is better in the playoffs than the regular season, 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: and he was the MVP. He's always at his best 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: when the best is required. He doesn't need to prove 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: anything to anybody. His coach has often let him down. 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: He had more passing yards in the fourth quarter last 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: night than half the league had this weekend, sixteen unanswered 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: points against a better roster in Baltimore, Montana. Brady and 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Mahomes had more hardware and maybe OHA's will. I have 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: never seen, including Patrick Mahomes, a quarterback with this much velocity, 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: this much power. His again, his playoff passer rating higher 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: than his regular season. He is a gamer and not 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: the streaming kind. The other thing is I still this 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: morning don't like the way the Bills are overly reliant 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: on him. The Ravens were getting I mean, Dereck Henry 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: was running away from smaller secondary players for Buffalo. Buffalo's 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: got real issues on the back end. Remember Buffalo, Buffalo 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: had to come back under four minutes fifteen down. Like 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore has a better roster they have in my opinion, 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: a better coach they have in my opinion. And this 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: is not a knock on Lamar probably Steve Bushatti, many 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: in the league believe best organization owner ninety five percent 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: of that game last night until the very end, felt 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: like if Baltimore's just got too much horsepower, they got 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: too many good players. The Bills have a and I 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: would be worried about this. They have a Lebron Calves 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: feel to them that he's got to score forty two 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: and have a triple double to beat the good teams. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: I mean, even at the end of the first half, 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: he gets the ball thirty one seconds, two big throws, 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: no timeouts, and sets of a field goal. How many 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: people on the planet ever could do that. It is 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: not a knock on Lamar Jackson. But the Ravens have 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: multiple routes to win big games. Dereck Henry last night, 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I get he is running passed and over much smaller 64 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: players than safeties and corners. The Bills have one route 65 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: to win huge games. Josh Allen has to do that, 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: and I think last night was unquestionably his greatest performance. 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: And he's got about twelve like this. I thought it 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: was the best one. That score was forty twenty five 69 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: and under four minutes left. I don't care that it 70 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: was at home. Baltimore is a stacked roster. There are 71 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: three rosters in this league. I tests look better Eagles, Ravens, 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and I think Packers. And to pull that off late, 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Baltimore's got Kyle Hamilton. He's a 74 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl safety covering all that ground in the back end. 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: You stack these rosters up. Baltimore is up there with Philly. 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: I feel like Buffalo is. Basically they just said, Josh, 77 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: take it over. End of the first half, end of 78 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: the game, take it over, and here he is after. 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: It took everybody there. I'm just proud of our team 80 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: for staying in it. No one on the sideline blinked. 81 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: I mean down fifteen points whatever we were with five 82 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: six minutes left, staying with it, fans leaving, you know, 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: the stadium. You know, you gotta play this game for 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: sixty minutes. And that's that's a really good outfit that 85 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: we just played. 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm watching that game last night, and I honestly watching 87 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Dereck Henry in that offense, and then 88 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Josh Allen on the other side. I'm like seventy five 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: percent in the teams, and I'm watching Mahomes and Justin 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Herbert Friday and thinking the same thing. Yes, seventy five 91 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: percent of these teams in this league have got to 92 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: be looking at their quarterback situation and just thinking Buffalo Baltimore. 93 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: They're playing a different sport. I mean, Labar, There's never 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: been a player that plays it like Lamar. It is 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: video game. And then there's Josh Allen under four minutes, 96 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: down fifteen against a great roster, and you know, Dereck 97 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Henry's fumble probably is is that lynchpin that gets you 98 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: the w but remarkable. Now I want to shift to 99 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: another game. I've been very critical, not really critical. I 100 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: just don't buy all the height with Brock Purty. I 101 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: think he's a B plus quarter I feel that with 102 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I feel that with Dak And I think 103 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: you have to be very careful about paying a B 104 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: plus quarterback a plus money. And Brock Purtty got a 105 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: good contract. It wasn't outrageous for him. It was a 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: very good contract. But I got to tell you yesterday, 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: Yes he had two picks. Yes he got a huge 108 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: break that Sam Darnold fumble bumped into his own player. 109 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: That's the most impressed I've ever been with Rock Purty. 110 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: That game. Seattle's loud, George Kittle misses most of the game. 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: You're down several wide receivers. Your offensive line is mediocre. 112 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings is her Trent Williams is her right guard 113 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: is hurt. You've heard of the Blue Man group, the 114 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: Niners of the Blue Tent group. They can't keep anybody healthy. 115 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: Special teams, Jake Moody, close your eyes, cross your fingers. 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: That let the Niners down and pretty on the road 117 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: against Let's be honest here. That defense for Seattle is fast. 118 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: That is a well coached, well constructed, well drafted, very 119 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: good Seahawks defense. It is sometimes you got to trust 120 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: your eyes. They are flying around the field, and he 121 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: goes six for six on the final drive, loudest stadium 122 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: in the league. They were nine to one before yesterday 123 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: and those openers. He has a great poise, made huge throws. 124 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: And you know why I'm impressed because he had two picks. 125 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, only scored seventeen points. Why would I be 126 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: so impressed Because the difference between the haves and have 127 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: nots in this league is when you don't have your 128 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: star receiver, when you're down your star tight end, when 129 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: you're going to be Hall of Fame, left tackle goes 130 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: to the tenth, when you're right guard is out that 131 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: and you're on the road. That's that if every quarterback 132 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: looks good with excellent protection. I've said quarterback is like parenting. 133 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Every buddy is a great parent. When your kids are 134 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: eating their vegetables and getting a's, it's really easy. That's babysitting. 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: You know what parenting is Your kid just got kicked 136 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: out of school. Your daughter got a speeding ticket, she's imploding. 137 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: That's parenting. That yesterday in Seattle, last drive, that is 138 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: what quarterback is. Okay, that is what it is. Defensive coach, 139 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks are flying around, Your offensive line is mid. You're 140 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: missing one of your linemen. Trent Williams already been in 141 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the tent. George Kittle's gone, Juwan Jennings banged up. Seattle. Listen, 142 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: Seattle's gonna win nine ten eleven games, whether they make 143 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs or not. That's a good football team. So 144 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: it is it demanded he'd be great. And I don't 145 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: care that his passer rating was ninety two, and I 146 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: don't care that he threw two picks. That's worth the money. 147 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, there's about eight nine quarterbacks in the 148 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: league you can win a football game with, and he 149 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: was one of them. And that doesn't mean I want 150 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: to hear Old Jamie going nutty on this. I may 151 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: turn by next weekend. That is quarterback playing the league. 152 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: That's parenting. The house is melting down, they won't eat 153 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: their vegetables. They're arguing with mom. That's parenting. Here is 154 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan on Brock Purty's performance. 155 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: Ah, it's huge. I mean there were some big plays 156 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: at the end. I mean we were back and forth 157 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: and just kept getting tighter and tighter, and to make 158 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 4: that big play to Ricky to get the explosive to 159 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: get us down there, and on that play he made 160 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: on fourth down was huge. I think the biggest one 161 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: in the drive was him going across the whole board 162 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: on a progression. I mean, just a tough deal to 163 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: do for a quarterback. And I don't know if you hit. 164 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 4: I think it was Jake tongjis a low ball on 165 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: the other side that kept the drive going and played 166 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: really well. 167 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: There. 168 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: The other thing that you notice, and this is something 169 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: about the NFL that's different than college. In college, you 170 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: let go of the ball when the receivers open. He 171 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: made a throw. He made a couple of them in 172 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: this game. Pretty did the touchdown in the end zone 173 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: to the tight end because Kittle was banged up. When 174 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: he let go of that ball, there were three blue shirts, 175 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: two blaur shit, there was nobody open. That is what 176 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: is called it anticipatory thrower. That's what Aaron Rodgers was 177 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: in his prime. Aaron Rodgers one of the first quarterbacks 178 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: doing the back shoulder thing. Nobody's open. Great quarterback play, 179 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: and this is what you have to do in the NFL. 180 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: And it's why a lot of college quarterbacks can't pivot 181 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: to the pros. You gotta let go of the ball 182 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: and it looks like it can't be caught. Go back 183 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: and look. Go to your YouTube page, go back and 184 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: look at that that touchdown to the tight end. He's 185 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: not open. That's practice, that's in, that's trust, that's anticipating. 186 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: That is excellent quarterback play. Could have been his third 187 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: pick instead. Everybody loves Brock party this morning. So j 188 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Mac a little pivot, slight pivot on purchase. I gotta 189 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: say I love that open Colin. I was shocked that 190 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: you said nice things about him. The two picks are bad. 191 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Let's admit they were. They were bad throws, right, That 192 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: is a let me tell you them. That's a tough environment. 193 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: Yes, And by the way, you didn't mention his kicker 194 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: was like terrified and Shanahan's losing his mind. 195 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: He made a thirty two yard field goal in the 196 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: second half and it was noteworthy. It's like, hey, we 197 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: should note it. He hit it because he had had 198 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: a kick blocked. He had missed like a twenty eight 199 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: or a show. 200 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: It was a short one. 201 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. 202 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 5: They got to the red zone five times. And by 203 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 5: the way, how about the forty. 204 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: Nine Ers defense with Robert Sala bottling up Seattle. They 205 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: think they had two hundred and thirty yards of offense 206 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: colin defense. 207 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, frisky coordinators do not get the 208 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: love they deserve. The Niners have worse personnel defensively than 209 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, and that was their best defensive performance 210 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: in a long time. Go ask the Lions if coordinators matter. 211 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I know it's Monday and everybody overreacts on Monday. I'm 212 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: going to overreact on the Packers. 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Listen to Up on 240 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: Game with Me LeVar Arrington, TJ Huschman, Zada, and Plexico 241 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 6: Burrs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 242 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 6: get your podcast from. 243 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 244 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 7: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 245 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 7: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 246 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back, so listen. Micah Parsons actually only played about 247 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: forty five percent of the snaps. Between Jordan Love's poise, 248 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, what is that ninth straight game he scored 249 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown franchise record, the coaching green Bay looked different, folks. 250 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: It is official. Let me overreact. Green Bay's winning that division. 251 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't need to watch Vikings Bears tonight, and I 252 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: do not need to see the Lions again. Adding Micah 253 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: played less than half the snaps is different between Matt 254 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Lafleur and Jordan Love and that run game and Rashawn 255 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Gary and Micah. This is the best looking Packer team 256 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: I have seen since Aaron Rodgers in his prime. That 257 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: defense was flying all over the field like they always 258 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: use first round picks on defense, but you never really 259 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: feel like they're intimidating, Like Baltimore plays on fire at 260 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Denver with that crew in Denver. You see orange jerseys 261 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: everywhere yesterday. That is the best green Bay's defense is. Look, 262 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: it didn't look like a Packer defense. Hyper aggressive and 263 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons already making an impact, creating more space and 264 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: better matchups for the guys around him. So and those 265 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: wide receivers and tight ends we've been talking about this 266 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: the last three years. Green Bay just doesn't miss very 267 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: much on offensive players. They're the opposite of Belichick and 268 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots. They hit on almost everybody. Even the wide 269 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: receivers like Reid were like, well, I don't know. Romeo 270 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Dobbs sometimes he has the drops. They all make plays. 271 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Craft the tight ends a stud, he's a pro bowler. 272 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: He's going to be a great time, big time player 273 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: for the Packers. Ten different guys caught passes. Green Bay 274 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: was the best football team coaching, offense, defense. I watched 275 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: all weekend. I don't need to see anything else. I 276 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: don't care if it's overreacting because I know Matt's a 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: great coach, and I know Micah Parsons can play, and 278 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: I know those tight ends and receivers I've been watching 279 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: for three years. If they stay healthy, are good. And 280 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: I know Josh Jacobs he's a bull man. All I'm saying. 281 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: I watched football weekend like you starting last week, college football, 282 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: starting fotball Thursday night. That is the best team I watched. 283 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: I do not see the holes. I don't see him. 284 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Love sometime, you know, think about Jordan Love. He's 285 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: always more far than Aaron Rodgers, He's gonna let it rip. 286 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna have bad picks. Brock Purtty had bad picks. 287 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Picks Andrew luck had bad picks, lay a lot of them. 288 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't the bottom line, are you willing to let 289 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: it go? Do your prep, see the field, let it rip. 290 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Here's Micah and Matt Lafleur on what has changed just 291 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: watching the game. What has changed about Green Bay's defense. 292 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 8: These last six months was super draining, super toxic for everyone. 293 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 8: I mean, he's something that you know, I don't think 294 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 8: no players should have to go through. I could have 295 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 8: been with these guys getting better and better, and we 296 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 8: could have had probably more dominant start, you know, if 297 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 8: that was the decision we was gonna make. So I'm 298 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 8: just happy that's behind. These guys embraced me. They believe 299 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 8: in my talents, they believed in me, and I'm just 300 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 8: gonna get these guys everything I have because I know 301 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 8: that stake. 302 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: He definitely has an air about him and just his 303 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: style of play fits with our other guys, and I 304 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: think all those guys are excited to play with them. 305 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: It looked like. 306 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: A speed of light or the shooting star just coming 307 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: out of the sky and closing ground fast, which I 308 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: mean that's why he's here, right. 309 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, trust your eyes. Jeff Hafley is an excellent defensive mind. 310 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: Trust your eyes. You Packer fans are like, let's not 311 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: go overboard. Okay, radio guys, slow down. I'm not slowing down. 312 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: I trust my eyes. Hey, Mike have played forty five 313 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: percent of the Stamps. He's not even in great game 314 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: shape yet. Like the Mica thing is going to get better, 315 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: and I hope the Packer fans. The Packer fans are spoiled. 316 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: They've been watching great offense for thirty five years. They 317 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: haven't had Micah Parsons. I mean they did Reggie White 318 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: on the inside and Charles Woodson. But Micah Parsons comes 319 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: out at Lambeau feet standing. 320 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 4: Oh. 321 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: He came close to a sack ones early. The fans 322 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: went crazy, go crazy. That is what a Super Bowl 323 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: team looks like. Ravens, Eagles, Packers. Those rosters are different. 324 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: They are different rosters than everybody else. 325 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: J Mack with the. 326 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: News, No turn, this is the mister overreaction. 327 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: No no, no, I think all this is well within reason. 328 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: I mean, who could argue. 329 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: Any of this stuff? Like the Ravens looked incredible. 330 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: I mean, you contrast the Chiefs with the bills of 331 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: the Ravens, completely different. 332 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Not even the second than Herbert did kind of whatever 333 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: he wanted to. And you and I acknowledge we don't 334 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: love the perimeter weapons for the Chargers. They were opened 335 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: Enan Allen was cookie aside like a month ago, well 336 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: seven catches. He just joined the team. 337 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So let's go to another guy who 338 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: we don't really love on the show, and that's your boy, 339 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. 340 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 5: Cola, listen. 341 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: I got to give him running Arthur Smith's offense, and 342 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: Arthur Smith deserves a lot of credit. Rogers drew four 343 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: touchdowns no interceptions in a thrilling game against my Jets. 344 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: Game of the day. Until last night, we thought this 345 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: was going to be low scoring. 346 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I said twelve six Jets. 347 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I took the Jets in the three. I thought it 348 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: was going to be really sluggish. 349 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: The Jets did cover, but they lost thirty four to 350 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: thirty two. Rogers was talking a little trash after the game. 351 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 9: It was nice to win, especially, you know, hearing some 352 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 9: of the cat calls out there and the Boobirds you know, 353 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 9: I don't. I'm not sensitive about that. I expected that, 354 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 9: you know, I kind of like that. But there were 355 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 9: probably people in the organization I didn't think I could 356 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 9: play anymore. So it was nice to remind those people 357 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 9: I still can't. 358 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: All right, there's a guy who's got a little gray 359 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: and the whiskers as well. That's right, they want to bury. 360 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: He played pretty well one game. Well what game, my friend, now, 361 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: now is a statue. He's got sacked four times? No, no, no, 362 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, you got to get Aaron credit. 363 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter he got sacked. And there's no 364 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: other quarterback in this league that took the shot that 365 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Aaron did in the fourth quarter. 366 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 5: Well, Joe Burrow. 367 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: No, Joe Burrow, right, Joe Burrow got one that was brutal. 368 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: Well that's the Bengals. Yeah, But I mean Aaron sat 369 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: in there, yeah, and took shots. And in the fourth quarter. 370 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't think he was gonna get up. 371 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't know if he's gonna 372 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: get up. 373 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: Do you think this is sustainable? He's not. This is 374 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: not happening all season. 375 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: Well, it's an older team, and older teams when they 376 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: do get banged up. It takes longer for older players 377 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: to get healthy. So Green Bay is the youngest team 378 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: in the League three and Bay's gonna have injuries. But 379 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: a twenty five year old body is not a thirty 380 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: two year old body. I thought Jalen Ramsey had was 381 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: really good play at the end. 382 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 5: Of the game. 383 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: I think you have to I mean, I thought the 384 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: story of the game and I'll talk more about this 385 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: in a minute. It was Justin Fields, yes, but you 386 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: have to give they went on the road. Aaron, who's 387 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: not been good in season openers since he's gotten older, 388 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: best a mile by a mile. And it is not 389 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: a great old line. So Aaron was not doing this 390 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: behind the Eagles own line. This is a very mid 391 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: o line. 392 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 5: I know the staff wants to talk Rogers, that's fine. 393 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: The reality of Justin Fields was more impressive than Aaron 394 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Rodgers yesterday. 395 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, like Justin Fields was. 396 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: Really I'm gonna get to that. I thought until Josh 397 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Allen last night, I and Lamar they were both great. 398 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: I thought Justin Fields was the best quarterback I saw 399 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: this weekend. 400 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: He was outstanding. 401 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: He was out of his mind good. 402 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: Just for the record, the Jets only lost this because 403 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: the kick returner fumbled and the piece Steelers. 404 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 5: Basically got back to it. 405 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: That's part of foot I get it. But you say 406 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens only lost because Dereck Henry fumble, Well, Dereck 407 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Henry is a running back. He got hit, certainly, just 408 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: so the Steelers deserve credit. But it should be noted, Aaron, 409 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: he got sacked four times and that old line. Last 410 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: four years we have been arguing they couldn't run the 411 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: ball either. 412 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: Well, Arthur Smith deserves that, I think more credit than Rodgers. 413 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: He was early on r Rodgers was getting drilled and 414 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: he changed up the offense of a lot of play action 415 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: overly aggressive. 416 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn. 417 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: Guys were schemed open. I will say this, the Steelers 418 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: defense got destroyed by Justin Fields, Bryce Hall, Garrett Wilson. 419 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: Are They pushed around Jets at one hundred and eighty 420 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: two yards rushing. 421 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Well the left side of the Jets all line. They 422 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: just kept going back and back to the same left side. 423 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: And that's I thought Elijah Vera Tucka was left guard. 424 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he's right guard. I because when once eli Ja 425 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker got hurt. My take was. Oh, the Jets 426 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: on line could be spotty. They just every big run 427 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: play was Breece Hall left side and there were holes. 428 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: He's a good player, but there were noticeable holes. 429 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 5: That kid they drafted from Penn State had. 430 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: He was great. 431 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: Steelers fans are nervous because I text with a few 432 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: of them and they're like, we just got pushed around 433 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: by the Jets. And this is a defense that's one 434 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: of the most expensive in the league. So there are 435 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: some warning signs for the Steelers. Now. 436 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: It is a weak one. 437 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: It is, but that's not really how you want to 438 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: open if you're the Steelers defense. 439 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: Let's move to Pete Carroll. How about his debut with 440 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 5: the Raiders. 441 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: Really impressive twenty to thirteen win over your boy Vrabel 442 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: and the Patriot. 443 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: It was so happy for Pete. Look at his energy. Yeah, 444 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: he's seventy three years old now, dude, he looks fifty four. 445 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: He is. 446 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean you can feel his energy and juice on 447 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: the sideline. 448 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 4: Yea. 449 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: And by the way, speaking of Jews, Geno Smith three 450 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two yards, I mean. 451 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: He was outstanding. Easily the best quarterback in that game, 452 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: not close. 453 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 5: It wasn't. 454 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: Drake May not great, but brock Bauers did leave with 455 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: an injury and it didn't matter. 456 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: Do you know it was still making plays with her. 457 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: Was Jakobe Myers, Ashton Jeny was okay, didn't. 458 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Have much room, Drake May didn't do much and it 459 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: was not just that. Now I will defend New England 460 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: a little. Remember they spent three hundred million on free agency. 461 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: It's like seven new starters. Yeah, Christian Gunn's all us out. 462 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: They also are playing multiple rookies. You can argue there's 463 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: not a team in the league. They have like a 464 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: transfer portal. They got like twelve new guys taking snaps 465 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: and remember start do not play in the preseason anymore. 466 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: My take is they have so many this is a 467 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: total rebuild in New England. The Raiders are not a 468 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: total rebuild. No, Colton Miller, Brock Bowers, Jakobe Myers, Ashton 469 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: Jenny's gonna be a star, Max Crosby. The Raiders aren't 470 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: a total rebuild. They just needed grown ups to run 471 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: the organization. 472 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, you have Patriots playoffs. It's one week. 473 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: You don't want to overreact. The Dolphins are still in 474 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: the division so. 475 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: They won't be in the basement. But I don't again, 476 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: it's just a Jet. I'm gonna again Patriots. I think 477 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: the Jets look more impressive. It's just one game. Agree, agreed, Jets. 478 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: Jet's look, I've gotta save some of my materias. Are 479 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: not gonna lure me in with your hot takes. 480 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: Final final story here is Vikings Bears JJ McCarthy debut tonight. 481 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: Everybody's excited. They move off Darnold, which looks smart. By 482 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: the way, Darnald not great in Seattle. McCarthy talked about 483 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: how he doesn't have to go out there and play 484 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: hero because the roster is stacked with talent. Vikings looks 485 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: like it's ticked up to minus one and a half? 486 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: Was it minus one for a long time? What do 487 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: you think of on the pressure? 488 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: I like I had a winning week, Blazing five. You 489 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: had a winning week as well. I like the Vikings tonight. 490 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Those that Tyler Dunn expose on the Bears, I see 491 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: is the most damaging thing you cannot read. You know 492 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: he won the first Heard Big Jay Journalism Award. I 493 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: don't think we've given out a second, but he won 494 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: our first and only you cannot be a Bears fan 495 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: and not be disheartened reading that article. So the Caleb stuff, 496 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Poul's a GM. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take 497 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota tonight. I think McCarthy. I think they they it's 498 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 1: fairly cautious. They go to the players they trust, and 499 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: I think the story tonight is Brian Flores the defensive 500 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: coordinator against Caleb. The story of the game is not 501 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: going to be players. It's going to be and floor 502 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: is sophisticated, difficult, heavy blitz, heavy pressure. And can the 503 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: Bears new offensive line how do they stack up? You 504 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: know Jmack with. 505 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 7: The news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping 506 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 7: by the herd. 507 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Line news man. It is Uh. It was just funny 508 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: watching the Raiders like I been for years and years. 509 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: I've said the Raiders have talent. I mean, Ashton Jens 510 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: is going to be a dude, Colton Miller, Brock Bauers, 511 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, they got dudes. I even think their defense 512 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: is better. The thing with their defense last year it 513 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: got all banged up. Raiders got players now, leadership, coaching, coordinating, 514 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: GM not great. They flushed them all out. Remember when 515 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders flushed everybody out, and everybody kept saying, oh, 516 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: they got too many changes. Yeah, but they upgraded owner, GM, coach, coordinator, quarterback. 517 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem flushing everybody out with the 518 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: Raiders because they upgraded a head, coach, coordinator, quarterback. They 519 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: got all new, all new, all improved players. So I'm 520 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: not one of these Oh there's too much radical change 521 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: that can hurt players, offensive lines, in chemistry. But if 522 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: you give me a better GM, a better coach, a 523 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: better offensive coordinator, and a better quarterback. Washington last year, Raiders. 524 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: This year, you got better, got a better team. It's 525 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: harder for players when there's a lot of new teammates. 526 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: But I get a better coach and a better quarterback 527 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: and a better GM and a better you know situation. 528 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Mark Davis, who used to be one 529 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: of the poor owners, he went and sold portions of 530 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the team. Now they're well funded. Now they're well financed, 531 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: and Allegiance Stadium puts a lot of money in the Raiders. 532 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: So if you're a Raider fan, that wasn't a small win, 533 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it's New England. That was 534 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: a nice win. For the Raiders. Okay, so we warned 535 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: you on the Chiefs. I know it's Friday. We warned you. 536 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: The division's too good. You can't live off slim margins. 537 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert with a wide receiving corps. Guys were open. 538 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Quinton Johnson one of his best games. Lad McConkey guys 539 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: were open all night. You can't keep winning one score games. 540 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: There is a randomness to it. Now, it's not like 541 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: recovering fumbles that's totally random, but there is a randomness 542 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: to keep winning one score games. One of the smart 543 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: bets that the smart guys do in Vegas is teams 544 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: that go like eight and one in one score games. 545 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: Bet again from the next year. Nobody does that. The 546 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: AFC West is just too good. Denver played like crap 547 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: and won. I mean Denver was bad offensively. The Raiders 548 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: go on the road thirty five hundred miles whatever they win. 549 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Trust your eyes, Trust your eyes. The Ravens, Eagles and 550 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: Packers rosters look a lot better than Kansas City a lot. 551 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnoll is a great coach. He couldn't do anything. 552 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers were there to beat, right, They're 553 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: banged up at receiver. They brought in Keenan Allen in August. 554 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: He's thirty three. He's had like four surgeries that are 555 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: Grade two or three or above. Seven catches Keenan Allen, 556 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: dude's a total baller, yes, but he should not have 557 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: seven catches. So and by the way, next up on 558 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: Fox Philadelphia and the Chiefs are a home dog. Okay, 559 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: and Mahomes was amazing. Mahomes is going to get lost 560 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: this past weekend because of what Josh Allen and Lamar 561 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: did and Herbert did. Mahomes was unbelievable. Okay, but I'm 562 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: not saying they're going to go seven and ten. But 563 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick and Randy Moss couldn't win a Super Bowl. 564 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Once you pay the quarterback, you gotta start hitting on 565 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks. And Rashi Rice is a hit. 566 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: He can't stay eligible. Xavi are Worthy. I mean, they 567 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: literally couldn't get out of their own way. Travis Kelsey 568 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: ran over Xavier Worthy. So the NFL is engineered to 569 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: bring the big dogs back to the middle. This is 570 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: in college football, where the better you are, the better 571 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: recruiting class. Pro football, the better you are, they want 572 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: to pull you back in. They don't want back to 573 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: back champions, and I mean that's why Buffalo, by the way, 574 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: their defense, how is their defense that that's the league 575 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: They had to let go of multiple players. Baltimore has 576 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: somehow in Philadelphia, somehow, it's just hitting on a lot 577 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: of draft picks. Have been able to maintain it and 578 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: pay people a lot of money. It's hard, It's really hard. 579 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: And here's Patrick Mahomes on the loss. 580 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 10: They came out with more energy than we did our 581 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 10: other defense, in our offense, so we didn't execute I 582 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 10: missing throws down the field, and obviously we didn't play 583 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 10: good enough in the first half. I felt like we 584 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 10: had energy at practice yesterday and all throughout the week. 585 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 10: But I mean, you don't come out and play with 586 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 10: the right mindset, you get beat. And the charges came 587 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 10: out the right mind say we didn't and they beat us. 588 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Mahomes, Herbert, Jordan Love, Josh Allen, 589 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, brock Purdy, there was 590 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: some really good quarterback play and you don't have to 591 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: win to be impressive. Shout out to a team that 592 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: has literally cost me more than any in the NFL. 593 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix and the Falcons. I thought they had it 594 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: one then they lost it. Michael Pennix can spin it, 595 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and let me tell you this. Cam Ward can play. 596 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: Denver's pass rush is a sea of orange. One thousand 597 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: and one. Run for your life. That pass rush is 598 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: It's like when the Seahawks had that like three year period. 599 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: That Denver pass rush is insane. Cam Ward has very 600 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: little to work with. Cam Ward can play. Michael Pennix 601 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: can play. Those guys are going to be really good. 602 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: They just need help. Most security systems only take action 603 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: once somebody is already breaking in. It's too late. Simply 604 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: Safe is different. AI powered help to see people lurking 605 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: outside the property, proactive not react. 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It all starts at 612 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: ten eastern live from Evanston with the Big. 613 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: Noon kickoff crew. 614 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: Then it's Oregon Northwestern only on Fox. 615 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: So Deelers was so wildly entertaining in the one o'clock 616 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: window or ten o'clock window, whatever wherever you live. I 617 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: don't think I am crazy to suggest that the story 618 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: of the game was not forty one year old Aaron Rodgers. 619 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: It was Justin Field's having his best game as a pro. Statistically, 620 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: he did not have one off target throw. So the 621 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Jets brought over that passing game coordinator for the Lions, 622 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: and it's a I mean, that looked like Justin Fields 623 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: at Ohio State and Rutgers just rolled into Columbus. He 624 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: was throwing darts for three and a half hours. And 625 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: we've always said everybody loves him. Chicago bailed on him. 626 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: He didn't have a bad word to say. He's a 627 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: big kid, he's got a whip, he moves well. Everybody 628 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: likes him. I've said that ten times on this show. 629 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: I've never talked to anybody that doesn't like him. But 630 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: he had one of those things that is hard to quantify. 631 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: Does he see the field well? So yesterday when I 632 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: was watching him, my take is is he throwing to 633 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: the primary receiver that's not hard. He wasn't. I think 634 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: one of his best throws of the day. It was 635 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: like his second or est third receiver. You watch his head. 636 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: He starts left, he goes middle, he goes far right, 637 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: lets it go. And there were seven lead changes. So 638 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: it was a hard game to quarterback. Now, the defense 639 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: for the Steelers wasn't impressive, but when you're trailing and 640 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: you have to match the other quarterback and the other 641 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks the Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers, every time Justin 642 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: Fields came in, there was pressure because his defense couldn't 643 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: stop anybody. So Justin Fields came into the game again 644 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: like a brock perty he had to deliver. That's the 645 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: way it goes. You better line it up and move 646 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: it down the field. And I thought, listen, Baker Mayfield, 647 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Gino Smith have all had a resurrection, and 648 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: a lot of it is there's just more good offensive 649 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: coaching than ever before. I gotta tell you, I watched 650 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: Justin Field yesterday and again, I know it's Week one. 651 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: I know defenses aren't all ramped up, but you can 652 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: make there are things that are clear in week one, 653 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs aren't gonna win all these one score games, 654 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: and that Baltimore and Buffalo are sensational teams, and that 655 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, the Rams and the Texans have real defenses 656 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: that are gonna win a lot of games. Rams Texans 657 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: game one very sexy to watch their bodies flying everywhere. 658 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: C J. 659 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Stroud and Matt Stafford had to hurry the throws. I'm 660 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: sitting there watching justin Fields and I know next year 661 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: is a great draft and the Jets can't find, you know, 662 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: their quarterback. Last several years, they've whiffed. That was special 663 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: And there'll be a lot of other Sundays and they'll 664 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: be tougher defenses. But they got a defensive culture and 665 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: they've got very expensive defensive personnel. And he ate it 666 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: up and he was aggressive, but he also a couple 667 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: of times new and to slide. Now another note, the 668 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: left tackle out of Penn State in near two for 669 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: the Jets was really good. So it always helps when 670 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: you have the quarterback and he's accompanied with a ten 671 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: year starter at left tackle. But here was justin Fields. 672 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 11: After No, I don't think a lot of people expected 673 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 11: us to come out like that. But like I said, 674 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 11: like you said, no more victories, just calling it what 675 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 11: it is. You know, they acquired all these guys in 676 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 11: the offseason, you know, future Hall of famers on that 677 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 11: side of the ball, and we put up thirty two 678 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 11: and there were still plays that were left out there. So, 679 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 11: like I said, all we got to do is keep building, 680 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 11: keep getting better, and we'll be good. 681 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are good losses. I thought Dallas on Thursday, 682 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer, they didn't have a lot of penalties. I 683 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: thought the Cowboys on Thursday were situationally very strong. That's 684 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: a good loss. I thought Atlanta, Michael Pennix is a baller. 685 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: I thought, Atlanta, you can look up and go, you know, 686 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: we got our guy for the next ten years. I 687 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: thought the Jets loss was incredibly in encouraging. You've got 688 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: your left tackle. Hey, listen, you can keep justin fields 689 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: or not. But you don't need to be desperate next 690 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: year because and I said this before, it's so funny. 691 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 1: He was in Pittsburgh. He goes to the Jets. Aaron 692 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: was with the Jets. He goes to Pittsburgh. Remember that 693 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: show Wife Swap, And sometimes you look at it and 694 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: you go like, you know what, actually, maybe they are 695 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: the better couple I was watching it, and I'm like, 696 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: Aaron fits better in Pittsburgh because of the history of 697 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: the franchise and his respect for it. He didn't have 698 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: to carry the franchise. And Justin Fields in New York, 699 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: a team that desperately needs to find a young quarterback. 700 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: I thought he played like he was empowered. So it's 701 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: just one of these that Aaron's better with the Steelers. 702 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: It's a better fit, and the Jets need a quarterback 703 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: and Justin Field's a better fit. So there you have it. 704 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Don't forget Colin right, Colin wrong. Matt Hasselback talk top 705 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: of Next Hour. So first of all, when you watch 706 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: the game last night, let's not forget the first three quarters. 707 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: So the most games in NFL history where a quarterback 708 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: has a one hundred and forty plus passer rating, Lamar 709 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: Jackson is now right behind Drew Brees and will eventually 710 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: pass him. Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and maybe Tom Brady. 711 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: So he's never been given enough credit as a pocket passer, 712 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: and he wasn't great his first year and a half, 713 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: but he averaged Lamar Jackson last night. And I know 714 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: people they dig into a position and they want to 715 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: be right, not necessarily get it right. Lamar Jackson averaged 716 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: eleven yards from the pocket and eleven on the ground. Now, 717 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: he had a scramble last night that maybe the second 718 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: or third. It's a top three quarterback scramble I've ever 719 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: seen in my life. Nobody's ever played the position like him. 720 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: But I thought last night was on Derrick Henry's fumble. 721 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: And it happens. People fumble. I mean Sam Darnold bumped 722 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: into his own teammates. Seattle is going to win, then 723 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: they lost fumbles. We saw it against Dallas. Remember the 724 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: running back fumbled George Pickens later got a penalty. I mean, Dallas, Seattle, 725 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: and Baltimore could have come out of the weekend with wins. 726 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: But I know he lost. But the first three quarters 727 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: to go up against you know, mcdermot's a defensive coach. 728 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: That's one of the tougher places to play. I mean, 729 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: look at this run right here. This is against pro athletes. 730 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: These are pro athletes. It covered seventy six yards, a 731 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty yard loss into a twenty yard gain. It's just 732 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: there's nothing like Lamar. Now, there is a distinction. Whereas 733 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, He's not winning enough in the postseason, but 734 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: he's played spectacularly well. It does feel with Lamar in 735 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: the postseason that he aces all the tests in the 736 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: regular year and then bombs the final, and that does 737 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: affect the grade. How you do on the mid term 738 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: in the final, especially the final. You know you your 739 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: college prof or your high school teacher. The finals like 740 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: thirty to fifty percent of the grade, So it does matter. 741 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for years and years, struggled in the postseason. 742 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: It does ding your resume. There's a reason we talked 743 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: more Lway than Dan Marino. Lway got to multiple Super Bowls. 744 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: Dan got the one and lost, So there is a distinction. 745 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: Lamar has not been as good. And this is not 746 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: baseball where you can be Mike Trout never win a 747 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: playoff series. You know, nobody cares you're an all time great. 748 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: We judge quarterbacks differently. The hardware matters. Is Joe Montan 749 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: and Brady the greatest quarterback athletes of all time? No, 750 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: they got a lot of rings and trophies. So but 751 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: I listen, this was on the Derrick Henry fumble. He 752 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: played very well eleven yards average. Bill's defense is a concern, 753 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: but a lot of it's just Lamar plays the position 754 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: differently than anybody's ever played the position, and here he 755 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: is after. 756 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 12: You just got to finish the game. You know it's 757 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 12: nevoe with a zero zero zero o'clock. No, we found 758 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 12: that out tonight. But we just kept getting off the field. 759 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 12: That's pretty much it. You know, we should have kept 760 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 12: on comfort and when we should have when we you know, 761 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 12: needed to. Obviously, she gotta do better. 762 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: Can I defend the Ravens here for a second, because 763 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: I really do believe there's an argument they're the best 764 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: run team in football. Owner down j Met called me crazy. 765 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but at the end of 766 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: the half, when the refs call the Ravens back on 767 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: the field with the second on the clock, I'm just saying, 768 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: that game's in Baltimore, they go into the locker room, 769 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: that game's in Buffalo, they bring everybody back because that 770 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: player did not hit the ground until it was zero zero. 771 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: And my take on that was and I kept thinking, 772 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, you can look at the clock, it was 773 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: oh one, he goes out of bounds, but that player, 774 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: I just think if the game's in Baltimore, they let 775 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: him go in. It's in Buffalo, they call him back. 776 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: It's not that the game is rigged. It doesn't matter 777 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: who wins last night. It's getting the TV rating for 778 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: last night. It doesn't matter who wins. They're gonna meet again. 779 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: The biggest part of last night was Buffalo may get 780 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: another home game against Baltimore in January. That's what last 781 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: night meant. 782 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: And the Buffalo's schedule. Everybody tough has to come to Buffalo. 783 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 2: This is that's a huge one because I'm just telling you, 784 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: if that continues Raven's doing by two touchdowns, it's like, hey, 785 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: the Buffalo defense isn't built. 786 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo's not the class. Remember Buffalo's defense was not good 787 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: last night. Now it was terrible and there on the 788 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: back end slow yar so low on the back and quicksand. 789 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not going to be good against it, 790 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: Like the Chargers are going to eat them up. 791 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: Defensive players statistically get hurt more than offensive players. So 792 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: Buffalo's defense now is thin. Like I watched Buffalo last 793 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: night and my take was at the trading deadline, they 794 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: need help in the back end. Yeah. 795 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: And by the way, Bosa, I know, was his first 796 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: go around with the team. He's got to contain that 797 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: edge with Lamar Jackson. They just kept going at him 798 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 2: and he's not reading the eyes. 799 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 5: It was a tough start for both. 800 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: Of Colin right, Colin wrong. It is a Monday. Matt 801 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck will be joining us as well, be on DOC. 802 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: The left tackle for the Bills is the hurd