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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: back with the along with Marty Rosenblad. Marty has a

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Speaker 1: MS degree in physics from UCLA. Worked for thirty five

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Speaker 1: years in areas of high energy physics using computational techniques.

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Speaker 1: He's been a president of the Applied Precognition Project, dedicated

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Speaker 1: to education and development of precog pros. Now these are

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Speaker 1: the natural follow up to Physics Intuition Applications, which he

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Speaker 1: founded back in nineteen ninety eight to apply remote viewing

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Speaker 1: to predicting financial markets and sporting event outcomes. Marty, did

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Speaker 1: anybody predict COVID nineteen? Not that I know of. There's

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Speaker 1: some people now after the fact who were saying that

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Speaker 1: they had some remote viewing sessions that predicted it, But

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's quite fair. Oh that's true. How

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Speaker 1: have you bad? Everything? Okay? Yeah, everything is great. We're

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Speaker 1: hanging in there, you know, to the circumstances. So I'm

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Speaker 1: doing fine. Helps you are as well? Yeah? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: still in the lockdown West Coast, yes, afraid. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy times isn't it. It really is, It really is.

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Speaker 1: This is when we need our precognition and intuition and

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Speaker 1: telepathy more than ever, isn't it. Well, you know we

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Speaker 1: have more time for it at least. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: using precognition, for example, to figure out when this is

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Speaker 1: going to be over would be rather interesting to do.

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Speaker 1: The problem with all of this, George, is it's not

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Speaker 1: it's hard for people to sort of get that. You

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Speaker 1: can easily become convinced that precognition is real, you know,

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Speaker 1: using normal scientific double triple blind, and it is. It's

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Speaker 1: much you get results like on sports events financials, which

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Speaker 1: are better than chance, but they're just not one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So if you were to say, hey, a year from now,

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Speaker 1: this is all going to be over and pretty much

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Speaker 1: like it was you know a year ago, Um, that

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Speaker 1: And well, that's true. That's that's that's a good point too,

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Speaker 1: you know. And even when we have these feelings of precognition,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you're just not sure if it's real or not. Um, well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's correct. And sometimes though those at times when

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Speaker 1: it turns out to be most real you know, because

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Speaker 1: you can fool yourself. It's the mind is the most

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Speaker 1: wonderful instrument in the universe in my opinion, And but

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Speaker 1: it's very complex and it doesn't follow direct rules the

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Speaker 1: way you know, ethical m A does Newton's laws. It's

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Speaker 1: got probability built into it in a way which we

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Speaker 1: still don't understand. You know, you mentioned the science of precognition.

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Speaker 1: The science of precognition has proved that there's something going

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Speaker 1: on there that still most people just won't believe because

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Speaker 1: it has this probabilistic nature. And yet we know for

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Speaker 1: sure using all the scientific techniques of double blind triple

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Speaker 1: blind experiments, that you indeed can predict events with much

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Speaker 1: higher probability than chance. But while there's been some experiments

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Speaker 1: like I think you're aware of Rustard's experiments predictions in

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Speaker 1: a row, but then he did another set and indeed

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Speaker 1: did not work. He had like six failures in a row.

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Speaker 1: And that is what we're still struggling with. Tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about your applied Precognition project, what

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Speaker 1: you've been running for a number of years now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is not only educational, but it's educational by giving

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Speaker 1: people hands on ability to work with their precognition with

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Speaker 1: their consciousness. They members and we have over a thousand members,

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred members. Now wow, not of right, not all

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Speaker 1: of which do active precognition, but they all, you know,

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Speaker 1: on sporting events and financials and these are real predictions.

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Speaker 1: They make their prediction. They will know that Team A

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Speaker 1: is going to go up. We use the spy, which

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Speaker 1: though I only recommend that if they've demonstrated that their

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Speaker 1: precognition is indeed up at say the sixty percent or

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Speaker 1: about their own consciousness. Imagine getting quiet and you generate

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Speaker 1: a transcript which is intended to describe one of two

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Speaker 1: But there are two possibilities, one for the market going up,

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Speaker 1: And this brings a new kind of appreciation of the

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Speaker 1: day five or day two, depending how far in the

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Speaker 1: future we're looking. Do you think, Marty, that most people

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Speaker 1: who practice precognition and intuition are successful people, whatever that means,

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Speaker 1: That is very interesting. I think when you're open to

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Speaker 1: really kind of a much grander being than we're often taught.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about consciousness. Give me your thoughts on consciousness,

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Speaker 1: and then let's get into some of the who were

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Speaker 1: the Irwin Schroedinger's who talked a little bit about this

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Speaker 1: as well. But what do you think consciousness is more? Well,

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Speaker 1: I was going to start with exactly those two. Uh Okay.

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Speaker 1: They were forced to conclude this based on what they

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Speaker 1: called and it's still called the measurement prop issue if

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Speaker 1: in quantum mechanics. Again, it's interesting that probabilities is the

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Speaker 1: quantum mechanics. And for example, you can't really know exactly

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Speaker 1: It's a probability, but until you actually pin it down

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Speaker 1: And they were forced to say, it's only when this measurement,

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Speaker 1: that it is real in our physical world. Before that,

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Speaker 1: it's in this probable blist stick land of quantum mechanics,

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Speaker 1: Another one could be hundreds of light years away, and

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Speaker 1: This is called non locality. Usually, you know, when I

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Speaker 1: In the quantum mechanical world, you have non local effects,

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Speaker 1: When this incredible universe was form, Marty, did all these

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Speaker 1: of collective consciousness. Anything that consciousness touches your thoughts, your feelings,

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Speaker 1: The experience of a ghost is dipping down into this

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Speaker 1: universal collective consciousness, which contains everything that humans experienced, and

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Speaker 1: when they physically die, it's still down in the UCC,

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Speaker 1: in this universal collective consciousness. So I think the science

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Speaker 1: in this case is the measurement of these effects. Now,

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Speaker 1: the ghosts, you know, there have been measurements of them,

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