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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fiream, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Thursday, February thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so excited. No heard on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Next week, I'm taking my post football vacation, will not

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Speaker 2: be doing the podcast.

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Speaker 3: The Herd is Dark.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great week to just sit around,

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Speaker 2: do nothing, relax, kick back, Probably not watch the NBA

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Speaker 2: All Star Break.

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Speaker 1: Just kidding.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about the NBA.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the NBA All Star Break tomorrow. But

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Speaker 2: today we have a special guest. Oh he's so good.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah. NFL Network known the guy a while, super

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Speaker 2: nice guy. He's in high demand right now. This is

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Speaker 2: draft season and there's nobody bigger than Daniel Jeremiah. I mean,

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Speaker 2: mel Kiper used to be really good, but best of

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Speaker 2: my knowledge, he's never worked in an NFL front office.

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Speaker 2: He's just, you know, a talking head like me. He's

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Speaker 2: just been doing it a long time. So I like

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah's insights and I think you guys are gonna

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Speaker 2: really enjoy this. Before we get to DJ, I listen

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Speaker 2: if I'm gonna gas up the Lakers for destroying the Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Do I need to kill them for getting smashed.

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Speaker 4: By the Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Not that they got smashed, they just elected to not

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Speaker 2: really show up Defensively. They looked like a team the

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Speaker 2: Lakers that had probably what nine seven eight nine guys

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Speaker 2: who have vacations booked and they're probably piecing out starting tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I don't think many guys are going to All Star Weekend.

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Speaker 2: My guess would be that a lot of the Lakers

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Speaker 2: had in their mind, Oh, I can't wait to get

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Speaker 2: through this game. We got a vacation, and that's how

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Speaker 2: they played from the first quarter. The defense was lackluster. Jazz,

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Speaker 2: I mean the Jazz. If you just watched them and

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh shucks, this team's got some dudes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lori Markin, it's very good.

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Speaker 2: We know that Walker Kessler is just dominant in the paint,

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Speaker 2: had six blocks, didn't a shot Dunk City. But I mean, basically,

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Speaker 2: this was one of those games. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: Lakers had won three from the Jazz, including two nights ago,

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Speaker 2: winning by a billion, and the Jazz wanted revenge. They

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Speaker 2: wanted to obviously avenge that they don't want to get

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Speaker 2: swept a four to zero in the series, so they

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Speaker 2: went all out. And you know, Lauri Markin was a

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Speaker 2: plus thirty five and thirty two minutes. Jordan Clarkson, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's fun to watch, plus thirty three in twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Just some CN numbers. Keyante George, the young kid I

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Speaker 2: believe at a Baylor or Kansas State or something like that.

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Speaker 2: He did twenty and ten assists, six boards.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked good.

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Speaker 2: They got some young, good players, but the Lakers were

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Speaker 2: just checked out. They didn't really try. Luka Doncic got

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Speaker 2: some questionable fouls and you started to see the old

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Speaker 2: Luca complaining a lot. Austin Reves couldn't throw it in

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Speaker 2: the ocean. Four of fifteen, one of ten from deep

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Speaker 2: did have eleven assists, but the Lakers just were sloppy.

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Speaker 2: They weren't locked in offensively.

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Speaker 3: It was bad. They made twenty threes, which kind of

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Speaker 3: looks good, but a lot more in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Bronnie James hit two in the fourth. He

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Speaker 2: It was just one of those like gay Man, we

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Speaker 2: don't have it, and I'm not gonna overreact. The Jazz

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Speaker 2: have beaten the Knicks, They've beaten the Warriors, they got

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Speaker 2: some scalps, they beat the wemb they beat Lucas MAVs

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Speaker 2: earlier this season. They're not good obviously, and you know,

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Speaker 2: some people probably are gonna come on air today and

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Speaker 3: Oh they got smoked by the Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I was a little surprised that they

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Speaker 2: in the All Star Break, a clear oversight on my part,

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Speaker 2: and overall eight not a great look for the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: but it will soon be forgotten. They come out of

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Speaker 2: which would mean a first round meeting with the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see about the playoffs. The're probably gonna smash someone

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Speaker 2: That's kind That's a team that still has stuff to

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Speaker 2: The Lakers, with Lebron and some veterans, they had been hot.

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Speaker 2: They've got Luca now. It just they weren't as locked in.

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Speaker 2: Not great to see, but ultimately, in the grand scheme

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Speaker 2: of things, I'm pretty sure nobody will remember this game

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Speaker 2: in two or three weeks. That being said, let's get

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Speaker 2: to our guest, the Great Daniel Jeremiah from NFL network.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: dance wants, but for everything he doesn't, he knows a

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Speaker 1: guy who does.

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Speaker 5: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 5: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to the podcast. The foremost

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Speaker 2: draft expert on the planet. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I'm over hyping him, but he comes on every year.

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Speaker 3: He's great.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, hoops enthusiast Chargers announcer.

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Speaker 3: How are you man?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, buddy. It's it's great to see you.

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Speaker 5: You do not age and your your energy doesn't dissipate

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Speaker 5: it. It does look like maybe you have some unpacking to

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Speaker 5: do behind you.

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Speaker 4: But the Girl Scott Cookie spot.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be shipping you some Girl Scott Cookies. Fat

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Speaker 2: you up, you know, get you ready for the combine.

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Speaker 2: So listen, this is draft season.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl's over.

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Speaker 2: My guess is that DJ, I know you were a

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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl and all that fun stuff. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and guess that a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: going to say, did you see the Super Bowl? The

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Speaker 2: Eagles defensive line, and we're gonna hear a lot of

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Speaker 2: cases for defensive pass rushers pushing up in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter going one your thoughts on the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and how it could impact the draft.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it marries up well and we're gonna

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Speaker 5: hit it as at the combine on our coverage because

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Speaker 5: I've already wrote it down. I finished watching the d

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Speaker 4: It is a stacked class.

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Speaker 5: So you have the recent example of what a dominant

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Speaker 5: class that's going to offer a multitude of defensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: So I wrote down on my sheet, I just wrote

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Speaker 5: that's going to be the theme of this draft. I'm

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Speaker 5: talking about violent, explosive, twitchy defensive lineman. Like that's what

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Speaker 5: it is, and that's what that's what you saw on

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Speaker 5: display in the Super Bowl with the Eagles and jamg

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like their front four. It was eight of

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Speaker 5: just having three or four guys, it's having, you know,

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Speaker 5: another wave of guys you can throw in there that

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Speaker 2: And this is kind of the Niners model, right Didn't

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Speaker 2: they run that with Sala and then they just ran

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Speaker 3: The Tyreek Hill Super Bowl. We caught that fifty eight

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Speaker 5: So I coming into the Super Bowl, there's a couple

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Speaker 4: Now, part of the.

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Speaker 5: Problem why they couldn't do that is because they couldn't

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Speaker 5: can't keep drives alive, it's hard to go with tempo.

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Speaker 5: But I thought they would try and wear those guys

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Speaker 4: To my grave.

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Speaker 5: Believing one thousand percent if they play on a normal

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Speaker 5: surface in that previous Super Bowl meeting between the Eagles

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Speaker 5: all over the field, I think they would have beat

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Speaker 5: him in that game as well.

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Speaker 3: That's spicy take.

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Speaker 2: So you're the guy who had Abdual Carter number one

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Speaker 2: in the draft, and obviously he was dominant against Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: dominant all season, great career, DJ.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you're my guy. I'm not calling you out. I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying, like, how on earth do the.

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Speaker 2: Callahan could get run off if he trots out Levis

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's you know, that's the that's the challenge.

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Speaker 5: The interesting thing is you have a general manager in

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Speaker 4: Get one crack at a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And do you want this to be your guy or

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Speaker 5: do you want to try and build up you know,

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Speaker 5: I go back to the old Seattle you know, a

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Speaker 5: in so that we can have success with a young,

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Speaker 5: cheap quarterback. I don't think their roster where it is

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Speaker 5: now is good enough to uplift the young quarterback that

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Speaker 5: might need some support and some help. And I don't

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Speaker 5: know that. You know, if you look at the upside

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Speaker 5: what could be coming down the line in the next

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Speaker 5: couple of years. That being said, prob wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 5: if they took a quarterback. I'm not sitting here saying

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Speaker 5: they one thousand percent are going to take Abdul Carter

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Speaker 5: or they're going to take a non quarterback. But when

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Speaker 5: your president it's elevated into that role. And some of

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Speaker 5: the first words that come out of his mouth that

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Speaker 5: we're not going to pass on a generational type player.

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Speaker 5: I didn't feel to me like he was discussing one

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Speaker 5: of these two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 3: Now I've heard generational toss around for Travis Hunt.

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Speaker 4: I hate that.

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Speaker 2: I hate I disagree toy the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is goofy. You had Travis Hunter in your mock

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Speaker 2: and again, this is a mock. What three months out

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Speaker 2: it's early going to also the Browns passing on a

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Speaker 2: Shador and say we're done with Watson, it's over. Don't

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Speaker 2: we don't want him. He's toxic in the building, and

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Speaker 5: Maybe Abdua Carter is there for them. I mean, they

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Speaker 4: Is they have that pick.

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Speaker 2: If rock Perty holds firm with this, I want fifty

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Speaker 2: Niners say, hey man, sorry, but we look around. We

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Speaker 3: We're not doing that Rock anything on the Niners.

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Speaker 5: I would be one hundred percent like shocked. I'm a

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Speaker 4: It's proof of concept.

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Speaker 5: You can have the Brock Party debate can take place

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Speaker 5: You can have that at the end of the day.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what he is for the other thirty

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Speaker 5: proof of concept coming within a you know, a hair

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Speaker 2: You know more about team building than a lot of

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Speaker 3: To brock Purty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's important that you draft well and you continue

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Speaker 4: That's been a little bit more in flux.

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Speaker 2: Figure shocked for you, Luka Doncic is getting traded or

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Speaker 3: Getting the head coaching job.

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Speaker 2: You could be honest, Brian Schottenneimer is a new Cowboys

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Speaker 4: It was the Cowboys. It was the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: I was definitely more surprised than Luka Doncic yeah, I know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or Saturday night, Saturday Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: Dives like it was literally the talk. It's not it's not,

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Speaker 5: It's not normal that the NBA dominates a circle of

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Speaker 2: Back to the draft, kam Shador won two at quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: DJ I like to.

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Speaker 2: Play the game where when everybody's talking about Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what happened to Jalen Milroe, who all checks

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Speaker 5: Well, I do think the Dart stuff was real. There

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Speaker 4: Hurts with Dart. Everybody's doing it with Milroe.

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Speaker 5: Just from this standpoint, you got guys with similar, similar

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Speaker 5: at Anthony Richardson. We had this unbelievable, explosive, dynamic athlete

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Speaker 5: and he's not He's not good enough as a passer

440
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Speaker 5: and it's not working. So that's that's the balance between

441
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Speaker 5: Milroe and you have people that are strongly in the

442
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Speaker 5: Milroe camp and then people that aren't. And the name

443
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Speaker 5: that that I'm I'm looking forward to going back through

444
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Speaker 5: and going through all of his tape as yours because

445
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Speaker 5: I watched him over the summer and I liked him.

446
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Speaker 5: I liked him a lot. I thought he would be

447
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Speaker 5: a first round pick. I thought he was trending. I

448
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 5: know it wasn't perfect, but he had a lot of

449
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Speaker 5: twitch in his movement. I thought the ball jumped out

450
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Speaker 5: of his hands.

451
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Speaker 4: I liked the way through the ball.

452
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Speaker 5: There were some things to clean up, but I thought, Okay,

453
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Speaker 5: if he just takes the next step, we'll be talking

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Speaker 5: about him as a first round pick.

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Speaker 4: Now. Very uneven performance this.

456
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Speaker 5: Year, and the stuff that I've heard, not only from Texas,

457
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Speaker 5: but you know, kind of going through this pre draft

458
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Speaker 5: now training.

459
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Speaker 4: Process, was this dude was pretty pretty hurt, you know,

460
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Speaker 4: like he was.

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Speaker 5: I think he had an obleaque what was out there.

462
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Speaker 5: I think he might even had an ankle or something else.

463
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Speaker 5: But I'm curious once we get to the combine and

464
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Speaker 5: you start hearing you know, the background and the information

465
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Speaker 5: and the medical stuff, if we don't realize this guy

466
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Speaker 5: was this guy was kind of a wounded animal out

467
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Speaker 5: there this last year. And if that is the case,

468
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Speaker 5: if that gets confirmed, and he throws the ball really

469
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Speaker 5: well and has you know, good interviews and things, I

470
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Speaker 5: think you could see him make a late push.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it feels like he didn't.

472
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Speaker 2: He definitely was looking over his shoulder right thinking about

473
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Speaker 2: the NFL. And then hey man, I got to play

474
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Speaker 2: through these injuries or guess what.

475
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Speaker 4: You ain't getting the job back? Ay I gets out there.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then I'm totally screwed. Who was the oh quarterback?

477
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Speaker 2: Wise the other guy I have on.

478
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Speaker 3: My list, give me your floor.

479
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: And ceiling in the draft for Riley Leonard Notre Dame,

480
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 2: who looked really promising a duke, and I don't know

481
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Speaker 2: if it was the offense, but go ahead.

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Speaker 5: He is a great athlete and like, if you want

483
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Speaker 5: to have some fun, like as much fun as you

484
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 5: had watching Cooper Dejean's basketball highlights, yea watched Riley Leonard's

485
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Speaker 5: basketball highlights.

486
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Speaker 4: He can jump out of the gym like.

487
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Speaker 5: He's a real athlete, super tough, super competitive, just started

488
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Speaker 5: out really had a rough one, you know, early in

489
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Speaker 5: the season at Notre Dame, and I think that was

490
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Speaker 5: that first image is like everybody's eyes were on him

491
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Speaker 5: and it was like, oh gosh, that was he's struggling,

492
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 5: bless you. And he got towards the end of the season,

493
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Speaker 5: they got a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: You know.

495
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Speaker 5: In that last game, they just ran him, They ran

496
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Speaker 5: him into the ground and he kind of physically you

497
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 5: could tell he was hurting a little bit.

498
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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's a project. He's uh, you know.

499
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Speaker 5: I actually looked at him and I was like, man,

500
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Speaker 5: I hate it when you say, oh, this guy can't

501
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Speaker 5: play quarterback, he needs to play another position. But after

502
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Speaker 5: seeing his basketball highlights and seeing how tough he is

503
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Speaker 5: and how he runs, I'm like, jeez, I kind of

504
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 5: wouldn't mind seeing him play some safety, Like he looks

505
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Speaker 5: like he could get back there and do it, but

506
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Speaker 5: I mean he's not. Again, don't give up on your dreams.

507
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Speaker 5: Chase the quarterback thing, and you know, we'll see what

508
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Speaker 5: opportunities he gets. But that's the level of you know,

509
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Speaker 5: toughness and competitiveness and athleticism he did.

510
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Speaker 2: You watch Scooby Doo as a kid where they would

511
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Speaker 2: like capture the bad guy and they would pull the

512
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Speaker 2: mask off and it would reveal, Oh my gosh, So

513
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: for Jackson Dart, I pulled the mask off and I

514
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: can't see unseen. Matt Corrall, who put up massive numbers

515
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Speaker 2: in a Lane Kiffin system, was drafted and then just

516
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 2: kind of hasn't done anything. And same thing with Riley Leonard.

517
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Speaker 2: You pulled the mask off, and it's like, is that

518
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones? Are you vibe in that or not?

519
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Speaker 3: Really?

520
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Speaker 5: No, it's interesting, That's those are some interesting comps. I

521
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Speaker 5: was asked who's a comp to the day that I had?

522
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Speaker 1: Oh?

523
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: Uh Skataboo, the running back from Arizona State.

524
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Speaker 2: Oh Man, I like him.

525
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Speaker 5: I was asked about him and they said, what's your comp.

526
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Speaker 5: I was talking to somebody in the league and I said,

527
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Speaker 5: my comp for him would be James Connor if you

528
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Speaker 5: left him in the dryer too long.

529
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Speaker 2: Oh.

530
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Speaker 5: I thought I was the one with all the weird comps.

531
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Speaker 5: But I think the Scooby Doo thing, I think you

532
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Speaker 5: can take it to Uh. I think you can take

533
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Speaker 5: the title there, but I didn't. No, Look, yeah that's

534
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 5: gonna be you know, those gonna be questions that need

535
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Speaker 5: to be answered. I like Dart better coming out than Corral.

536
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Speaker 5: I think they're they're built differently. Yeah, and I think,

537
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Speaker 5: you know, from a makeup standpoint, I think darts, you know,

538
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Speaker 5: just from talking to people at ole Miss, I think

539
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Speaker 5: is another level from from that regard as well.

540
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: The other name one of these quarterback gurus came on

541
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Speaker 2: the Herd and you know, during commercial breaks, we're talking

542
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Speaker 2: and this guy is hyping the the daylights out of

543
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Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, the former Ohio state guy who went to Syracuse.

544
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Speaker 3: Are you hearing anything like second round. It seems a

545
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Speaker 3: little rich.

546
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Speaker 5: No, I've I've I've done a little on him. I'm

547
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Speaker 5: finishing up the quarterbacks. You can see my this is

548
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Speaker 5: how we're gonna when I'm watching tape, here is it.

549
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Speaker 5: It's a it's like like my to do list to

550
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Speaker 5: finish before we get to the before we get to

551
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Speaker 5: the combine. So I'll get the quarterbacks cleaned up early

552
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Speaker 5: next week. But I have seen a little bit on him,

553
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Speaker 5: and I was intrigued because he's got a live arm

554
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Speaker 5: and Paul does jump out of his hands. Now, I

555
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 5: was talking to a scout and I just watched like

556
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Speaker 5: two games, and I was like, hey, what's your take

557
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 5: on the cord. He's like, well, unfortunately I was at

558
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Speaker 5: the game. He threw five picks against I think it

559
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Speaker 5: was pit maybe, and.

560
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Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, that's that's not great.

561
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Speaker 5: But U there's a lot of tools, there are a

562
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Speaker 5: lot of traits there, and I would you know, Will

563
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Speaker 5: Howard's another one.

564
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Speaker 4: You know.

565
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Speaker 5: Will Howard's six y four, he's two hundred and forty pounds.

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Speaker 5: He just came off of a national championship where he

567
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Speaker 5: got pretty hot. I think he can move around a

568
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Speaker 5: little bit. I want to see him throw in person.

569
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Speaker 5: I've never seen him throw live. I My question is

570
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Speaker 5: just does the ball jump out of his hand? As

571
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Speaker 5: you have enough from that standpoint. But that's that's another

572
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Speaker 5: one at least you hear.

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Speaker 3: All right, Two quick ones to wrap up. Will the

574
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Speaker 3: Jets go with Tyler Warren from Pennce eight?

575
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Speaker 2: Maybe my favorite player in the draft. I don't know

576
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: if he'll get the you'll go that high. Definitely feels

577
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: like the Cults are probably his floor.

578
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Speaker 4: I love him, I do.

579
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Speaker 5: I mean, so when you look at it, I'll tell

580
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Speaker 5: you real quick my overall player wise, my first top fifty.

581
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Speaker 5: I just don't think you're gonna miss on this kid

582
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Speaker 5: at all. He is my fifth overall player. So that

583
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 5: tells you how much I believe in him and everything that.

584
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Speaker 4: He can do. So I'm a big fan of his.

585
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Speaker 5: I think he's a tight end that we always used

586
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: to joke in scouting that there's some tight ends that

587
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 5: are very popular in the quarterback room and there's some

588
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Speaker 5: tight ends that are very popular in the running back room.

589
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Speaker 5: He'd actually be popular with both groups. They would both

590
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Speaker 5: enjoy having him on the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, superstar, all right, Last question, two guys from Georgia.

592
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Speaker 2: We saw basically the Eagles defense. They we're just gonna

593
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Speaker 2: draft Georgia players, SEC guys, and they're gonna be awesome.

594
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Speaker 2: Two guys from Georgia. Michael Williams had a bunch of

595
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Speaker 2: injuries and then Jalen Walker is are they both ed rushers?

596
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Speaker 3: Who do you have your breakdown of who's better out

597
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: of those two?

598
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great conversation. You've got Williams who's got

599
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Speaker 5: the freaky size length. He's gonna test like a machine

600
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 5: like he is so incredibly talented. Unfortunately, he got cut.

601
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Speaker 5: He got a cut block in the Clemson game first

602
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Speaker 5: week of the season, so he wasn't able to really

603
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Speaker 5: practice much dinner year. He was still gutting it out

604
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 5: and playing. But you didn't see the best version of him.

605
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Speaker 5: But you're gonna see, you know, a similar type. You

606
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Speaker 5: know when we had you know, Trayvon Walker who went

607
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Speaker 5: off at the combine all of a sudden, he ends

608
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Speaker 5: up being the number one pick. I'm not saying it's

609
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Speaker 5: gonna be that level of helium, but this guy's gonna

610
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Speaker 5: he's gonna climb up as you go through because of

611
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 5: those traits and then Jalen Walker. He plays off the ball,

612
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Speaker 5: he plays on the ball. They move him all over

613
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 5: the place. He's a great football player. Now, I wish

614
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Speaker 5: he was a little bit longer. But you're talking about explosive,

615
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 5: instinctive and like on him. I've heard like the leadership

616
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 5: character stuff like off the charts, like Na Kobe Dean level,

617
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Speaker 5: you know, type of a leader. So you can't go

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Speaker 5: I don't think you can go wrong with either. One

619
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Speaker 5: little different flavors, but two of the more dynamic players.

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Speaker 3: All right, Daniel Jeremiah move the sticks NFL now work.

621
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Speaker 3: He's great.

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Speaker 2: Find his podcast online. Daniel, thanks a lot. I'll see you,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, hopefully soon.

624
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Speaker 4: Man, we'll do it.

625
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: We'll circle back as we get through free agency. You

626
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 5: can just throw out everything that we talked about. None

627
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 5: of it will matter, and then we'll do it all

628
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 5: over again.

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Speaker 3: Yes, certainly, all right, buddy, Thanks Bud,