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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Giant Huttle Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: game time and anytime. Alright, folks, at three part podcast.

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Speaker 1: As usual on our Friday, we're gonna lead off with

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Speaker 1: gonna have a Jeff Joniak Bears preview. He's the play

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Speaker 1: is weekly sit down with Giants head coach Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: And before we get to those interviews, just very quickly

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Speaker 1: I had a great interview with Darryl Johnston, now an

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Speaker 1: the NFL season. All right, let's get to our podcast today.

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Speaker 1: We'll lead off with my one on one with Giants

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Richie James. How are you man, Good to

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Speaker 1: see you great and how are you doing? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 1: Let's start here. You lead the Giants in receptions right now.

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Speaker 1: What has it been like trying to to build a

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Speaker 1: a limited amount of time. UM, it's been good. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's smart and you know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Not with Daniel, but as a wide receiver group, given

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Speaker 1: how many injuries you've had to deal with guys in

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Speaker 1: between you guys together. UM, I think we'll still work.

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Speaker 1: It's all the process regardless. Um, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 1: trying to build that chemistry with Daniel. Um, you know

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Speaker 1: it's hard when you injured, you know, and the time

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Speaker 1: every day. What's the key to being a good slot

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Speaker 1: like that without giving away state secrets. What's the process

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Speaker 1: Just just watching them run, how explosive is and how

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Speaker 1: But it's different when you're playing with them, and you

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Speaker 1: But we we gotta just be smart, you know everybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, players gotta make plays, and Danny's gonna make plays,

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Speaker 1: Giants want to run the football as well. And some

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Speaker 1: of the best pieces offensively for each team is in

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Speaker 1: that backfield. So I could not believe it. At one

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Speaker 1: point I turned my broadcast partner on Sunday, Tom there

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Speaker 1: I said, my gosh, the Bears might run for three

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Speaker 1: fifty today and they got the two eight one most

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Speaker 1: since in a game at pre dates Tom thare Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl era team which really ran the ball consistently and

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Speaker 1: productively during his time at right guard for these Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Bears. Well, Jeff, first, let me just say it

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Speaker 1: is such a pleasure to have the rue loving announcer

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Speaker 1: joined our cast, because I really feel like I've been

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Speaker 1: left out on an island for all of these years.

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Speaker 1: So welcome, Welcome my place. I love it too, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Please come back every week. Okay, uh, well, let's let's

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Speaker 1: let's deal with with fields though before we do go

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Speaker 1: to the run game, because obviously a very high profile

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Speaker 1: guy coming out of school, what has he done well?

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Speaker 1: And I know there haven't been many things and what

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Speaker 1: is it that they realistically think that they might be

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Speaker 1: able to polish up, especially given that he's only got

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Speaker 1: a few days until this game is going to be played. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the big thing is it's a small sample size.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody's in a rush to judgment and a

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Speaker 1: rush to have success with with these young quarterbacks. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I just take this season and forget about

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Speaker 1: last season for the moment. First game was a weather

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Speaker 1: weather game plan, so it was going to be heavily

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Speaker 1: tilted towards the run in the first place, and they

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Speaker 1: won the game. And obviously it hasn't really changed that much. However,

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Speaker 1: he's had pockets of success. You know, he's he's in

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Speaker 1: a mustry situation, trying to learn guys in a new system.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of reasons to say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: be be patient, and you know it's gonna be a minute.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the way it goes with young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows it, but everybody didn't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: And and and honestly, I don't blame the fans or the

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Speaker 1: media for for wanting that, but I don't. I can't

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Speaker 1: realistically look at this as a football guy and someone

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Speaker 1: who's been a part of this this team for twenty

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Speaker 1: six years and say, you know, everything's got to be

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Speaker 1: just right right now. I understand the minimum number of

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Speaker 1: attempts that has gone on, it's it's the lowest by

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Speaker 1: far in the league. There at the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: league in many offensive categories as they were a year ago.

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Speaker 1: But he's got a lot of tools, so I will

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Speaker 1: think that they'll continue to accentuate those that mobility, uh,

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Speaker 1: the movement in the pocket find some clean windows. I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest thing Paul and Lance is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks gotta find the layoups, and there are layups that

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Speaker 1: can get you in a rhythm. And I believe all

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Speaker 1: pastors are rhythm quarterbacks. And that just hasn't happened at

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Speaker 1: a consistent basis. Yes, yet it doesn't mean it can't

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Speaker 1: happen at MetLife on Sunday at noon, but or one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: I should say in New York time. But I just

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Speaker 1: think there's there's plenty of time to sort this thing out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not giving up on this season or any

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Speaker 1: other just yet. On Justin Fields, Jeff, clearly, quarterback play

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Speaker 1: is synonymous with the play of the offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: much like the Giants, the Bears offensive line has been

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Speaker 1: put into the microscope, as you can attest to over

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Speaker 1: the last few season, some changes this year. You've got

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Speaker 1: a rookie left tackle. Seems as if they're rotating right

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Speaker 1: guard at this point, similar to what the Giants are

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Speaker 1: doing it left guard. How is this unit coming together?

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Speaker 1: And how much do you think, even though they've been

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Speaker 1: running the bowl effectively as we discussed that the offensive

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Speaker 1: line trying to click is contributing to the ups and

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Speaker 1: downs that they're having through the year. With Justin Fields, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's to me it was going

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Speaker 1: to be the biggest story of the year. How the

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Speaker 1: development to the offensive line? You know, in part, let's

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Speaker 1: just assume for for the sake of quarterback evaluation, it's

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Speaker 1: always about the quarterback, and every season is based on,

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Speaker 1: especially a young one, how that person develops. But the

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Speaker 1: other the biggest story was going to be the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's young. Honestly, I I am amazed at

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Speaker 1: what the coaches have done to get a fifth round

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Speaker 1: pick out of Southern Utah, Braxton Jones, ready to start

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Speaker 1: at left tackle and and be good at it. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's a big dude with long arms who's just

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Speaker 1: learning how to use his length. You got another fifth

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Speaker 1: rounder at right tackle, and that is Larry Borham, who

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Speaker 1: was a heavy player at Missouri. Cut weight was a

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Speaker 1: was a revelation last year getting a chance and now

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Speaker 1: it's got that thing nailed down at right tackle and

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Speaker 1: learning on the job. And then the right guard situation.

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Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins, who had never played it, started the season. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's rotating with Lucas Patrick, who was the going to

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Speaker 1: be the Pennsylvan starter at center, and that has worked

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Speaker 1: doubt nice as well. He's had a very good performance

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Speaker 1: on the field. Patrick trying to get himself right after

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Speaker 1: being injured for almost the entirety of training camp, and

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Speaker 1: Cody white Hair has been the vet he's the leader

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Speaker 1: right there at left guard. He's been there a long

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Speaker 1: time with his team. They're the most tenured offensive linement

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Speaker 1: at seven years in. But putting all that together is

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Speaker 1: not a simple task, and they've won two games with it.

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Speaker 1: They are physical and they are really good run blockers.

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Speaker 1: So again, leaning on the strength, leaning into your strength

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Speaker 1: of your football team at the moment until everything else

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Speaker 1: settles down, is not a bad way to go so far.

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Speaker 1: And whoever comes out of this game, I know it's

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Speaker 1: been remarked many times here in Chicago this week, one

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Speaker 1: of these two teams, barring the unfortunate tie, will be

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Speaker 1: three and one at the quarter pole. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know that many would have thought that given what they're

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Speaker 1: doing and what they're trying to do with new regimes. Well,

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Speaker 1: given the requirements of of the winning team in this game,

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Speaker 1: and Carlile Herbert is going to have to put up

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Speaker 1: some big numbers again like he did last week when

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Speaker 1: he ran for over a buck fifty against Houston. I

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Speaker 1: know Montgomery's ankle injury, you're serious enough that he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna miss at least a couple of weeks. So Herbert

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Speaker 1: last year was a terrific kickoff returner and showed some

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Speaker 1: things in his limited action. What can we expect to

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Speaker 1: see from him? He's a good little backman, sixth rounder,

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Speaker 1: tough as nails. Uh. Last year when he was in

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Speaker 1: for the injured David Montgomery, he led the NFC and

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Speaker 1: rushing during those four weeks. So he put up with

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Speaker 1: with those four games and the twenty carry effort last week,

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Speaker 1: I got him the uh the ground player of the

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Speaker 1: Week in the NFL. That's uh, I think five hundred

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Speaker 1: and one yards. He's averaging five points something to carry

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Speaker 1: in those games when he's had, you know, the opportunity

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Speaker 1: a good leverage back. He's got a big burst, he's UH,

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Speaker 1: tough to bring down, good kind tech balance, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the things that David Montgomery has. But he's got

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Speaker 1: some home run hitter to him and he showed that

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Speaker 1: with a gaping hole for fifty two yards in that

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Speaker 1: game last week against Houston. Uh. You know, all these

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Speaker 1: guys gotta be good pass protectors to and and be

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Speaker 1: able to catch out of the backfield to help out

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Speaker 1: their quarterback. And then those are things he does well.

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Speaker 1: As well. I think they've got a nice one to punch.

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Speaker 1: Love David Montgomery as a fellow Iowa State alum. I

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Speaker 1: watched every single one of his carries for the last

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Speaker 1: seven years. So great guy, and they both have the

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Speaker 1: same kind of mentality, and uh, I love that about him.

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Speaker 1: They just they no give up in him whatsoever. Love him.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Bears Radio played by play announcer Jeff

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Speaker 1: Jodiac as we set the stage with the Bears and

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Speaker 1: the Giants at Midlife Stadium on Sunday. Clearly the receiver

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Speaker 1: numbers are down, Jeff, because your quarterback only attempted forty

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Speaker 1: five passes. So it shouldn't surprise anybody that nobody stats

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Speaker 1: have jumped off the page. But you look at this group.

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Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney had a career year last year, and it

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Speaker 1: was interesting, Jeff. I was listening to Justin Fields talk

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Speaker 1: to the media this week and he said, Darnell Mooney

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Speaker 1: even came to him and said, listen, you can't force

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Speaker 1: the ball to me. If you're not have anything down

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Speaker 1: the field, then it's got to come naturally. I guess

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Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is, how much, though, do you

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Speaker 1: think Luke Getzi the offensive coordinating, they need to find

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Speaker 1: maybe other ways to get the ball in the hands

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Speaker 1: of a playmaker like Moody to maybe help jump start

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Speaker 1: this passing attack, even if it's not throwing bombs down

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Speaker 1: the field to test the giant secondary. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, as I alluded to earlier, and you'll hear

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and quarterback coach you said all the time,

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Speaker 1: you gotta find completion. So however that may be that means,

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Speaker 1: you know, not trying to force it in a triple

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Speaker 1: coverage or anything like that, and it could be you

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Speaker 1: know how creative these teams are, these offensive coordinators and

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Speaker 1: and Brian Dable in your in your part and Luke

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Speaker 1: as here in Chicago. Uh can get creative with it,

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Speaker 1: but you know the time, he's got to be there,

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Speaker 1: even for the swing passes or the shore passes. Those

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Speaker 1: sometimes were the hardest to complete for whatever reason. But again,

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Speaker 1: if they can just find some completions, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney, I don't know if you heard about this

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Speaker 1: at all, but I'm doing the post game show interviewing

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Speaker 1: Matt eber Fleus from his office at Soldier Field, and

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Speaker 1: we're up in the booth and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: look and there's Darnell Mooney, a good you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes after the game, coming out there in full uniform

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Speaker 1: with the jugs, gun and and take catching passes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he dropped to last week. He's only been targeted eleven times.

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Speaker 1: A guy who had high aspirations for himself, high expectations

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Speaker 1: out there grinding. I loved it. I loved it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is how much it means to him. So there's

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a different kind of Darnell Mooney out

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Speaker 1: there on Sunday. I beg to uh, I beg to

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Speaker 1: beg the guests on that one. But it's not just him,

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Speaker 1: you know. Equameneus st. Brown has been a nice player

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Speaker 1: for the Bears, knows the system. He's been getting involved

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Speaker 1: cold commet. I have high expectations for I'm gonna jump

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Speaker 1: on the table for him. I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: an outstanding tight end by the time this season is over.

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Speaker 1: In a breakout season. He started to have that in

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Speaker 1: the final ten games of last year. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: you know, keep using those backs as well to to

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Speaker 1: get the passing game until you can figure out how

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Speaker 1: to get that timing and continuity to have a traditional

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Speaker 1: passing offense, uh and get things going. Jeff, Let's flip

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Speaker 1: with the defense. Ro Kuan Smith was a big headline

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Speaker 1: obviously with his contract situation just a short time ago.

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Speaker 1: And yet through these first three games. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: look at that production, especially it gets Houston with the

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Speaker 1: sixteen chocoles. It does not look like it has impacted

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Speaker 1: him at all. It absolutely has not. Paul Uh. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I just did a feature interview with Justin Jones, are

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Speaker 1: a three technique defensive tackle and a new Bear this

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Speaker 1: year in free agency, and said it's been stuff. He

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Speaker 1: brought it up on his own volition about how roke

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Speaker 1: One not at any point during this entire process and

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Speaker 1: when he was not participating in training camp ever acted

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Speaker 1: any other way than just a great teammate, smile on

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Speaker 1: his face, going about his business and being a part

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Speaker 1: of everything in that locker room. And I think it

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Speaker 1: really made a huge impact. He is their best player.

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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: There's no question until further notice is Roe Kuwan Smith

639
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: is the best player learning a new position in a

640
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: four three versus a three four inside linebacker, the week

641
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: side linebacker, a prominent piece in this particular scheme where

642
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: things will float to you and you're gonna have an

643
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to make big plays. And he made a huge

644
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: one obviously with a pick that set up the game.

645
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: When he feels go on Sunday. Uh. I've always loved

646
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: ro Kuan. I love his his mentality. He too is driven.

647
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: He wants to be a special kind of player, and

648
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: he's put up some special numbers and he will get

649
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: paid one way or another, uh in the months to come.

650
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: But right now, he just loves being a bare linebacker.

651
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: I know he had he had dinner recently with Dick

652
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: Buckis who was in town. So uh, sharing sharing quotes

653
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: notes a dick but just can't be a bad thing

654
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: for a young linebacker, not at all. It's never a

655
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: bad thing to tap into the past, especially with those

656
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: very stingy Bears defenses. And when you look at speaking

657
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: of the defensive scheme, Jeff Matt Eberflus, what always stood

658
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: out to me when he was the Indianapolis Colts defensive coordinator,

659
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: especially last season, their ability to take away the football

660
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: was probably a huge staple. And you look at the

661
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: first three games the Bears defense already has five takeaways.

662
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Granted they had two interceptions and they win against the

663
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, and you reference the ro Kuan Smith I

664
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: n T which helps steal the win. How much do

665
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: you think they're making progress in that department. I mean,

666
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: granted he's got different personnel, but that this is going

667
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: to be something that could even do a lot of

668
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting and help out the offense and changing

669
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: field position because of the Bears ability to take away

670
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: the football. Well, I've been here when love Smith had

671
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: the same kind of scheme, same kind of system, same

672
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: kind of idea, and you know, you hear coaches talking

673
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: about gotta take the ball the way we gotta take

674
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: the ball away. You gotta take the ball away, and

675
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Lovely put teeth into it. It was not just lip service.

676
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: It became an obsession. This is the same thing. It

677
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: is an absolute obsession. It's discussed every single snap, every

678
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: single play, every single day. It's an expectation in practice

679
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: and on the field. And you still got to make

680
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: the plays. But if you're playing hard in the way

681
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: they want to, in the way they grade it, they

682
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: grade it extremely hard, from a loaf system to yeah,

683
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: you name it, there's a lot of isms that Matt

684
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: eber Flus has come up with through the course of

685
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: our introduction to him so far as a head coach,

686
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: But it is not tolerated if you're not running to

687
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: the football and given your full effort on every single snap,

688
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: even in practice, that you're gonna find that you're gonna

689
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: get the ball. I even mentioned that eber Fluss said,

690
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, there's a little luck involved. He goes, yeah,

691
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't really look at it that way. So that

692
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: ball bounce is funny sometimes, but it's amazing when you

693
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: you really it's it's a preach point of everybody. Every

694
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: team wants to take the ball away, so everybody can

695
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: say they want it, but it's hard to do consistently.

696
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: And uh, I'll tell you, I don't know where it's

697
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna wind up, but it's not for a lack of effort,

698
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I thought it was funny this week,

699
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, because the Bears have I think six forced fumbles,

700
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: but they've only covered a few of them, and it's

701
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: a it's a point of emphasis, right, so he called

702
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: them there. There are country fumbles and city fumbles, and

703
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: you didn't get into great detail, but you can assume

704
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: city is more trafficking country out on an open road

705
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: just by yourself and got a scoop and scoop up

706
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: the football, so anyway they can get it hammered into

707
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: the head of these guys. Taking the ball away certainly

708
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: is a big key to winning football. Jeff only having

709
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: watched limited film on the Bears, and I do want

710
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: to watch more before kickoff. It does look like Kyler

711
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Gordon the rookie, has been picked on. But yet Eddie Jackson,

712
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: who you mentioned and uh turnovers a moment ago. He

713
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: over his career has been a big part of key turnovers. Obviously,

714
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: he's got a couple of picks. I wonder if you

715
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: could specifically comment on those two players. All right, we'll

716
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: start with Kyler. Uh loved the pick out of Washington.

717
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: He's a feisty, really gifted athlete and not afraid to

718
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: stick his nose in there. He's learning two positions outside

719
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: and nicol so he's their number one nickel. But yeah,

720
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: it started with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers did target him

721
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: a lot, and he'll do that to a lot of

722
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: young cornerbacks. Um, so it was a baptism up at

723
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Pardon me, no, no question about it. But

724
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: he still is making plays. He broke up a touchdown

725
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: pass in that game and it kept it was a

726
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: big one. I mean it kept it within reach and

727
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: things could have changed if the Bears punched it in

728
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: on a goal line standard green Bay put together. And

729
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: not saying they would have won, but it made it

730
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: made a little different outlook to it. Um and he's uh,

731
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: he's essential in the run defense as well, so he's

732
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: he's really athletic. Almost had himself a pick last week

733
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: breaking on a little flat pass for a flank or screen,

734
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: but a little smoke route there. But I think he's

735
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. It's never been too big from him.

736
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: He was really the pencil Dian starter the moment he

737
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: set foot in the building. Uh he's a bright guy.

738
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: And uh, you know he's gonna play himself out of

739
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: any any issues. Keep targeting at him. At some point,

740
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: when these young players are targeted, they're gonna make a

741
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: few plays and turn the tide a little bit. I

742
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: love Eddie Jackson. He's gone through a lot of personal

743
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: issues here the last couple of years that I did

744
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: a long feature with him that kind of brought that

745
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: to light and so um you know, sometimes hard for

746
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 1: players to to separate the responsibility of being there every

747
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Sunday and getting your mind right at the same time.

748
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: So you know, it's thirty one games between interceptions from

749
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: the last game of the year against Minnesota to uh

750
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: that week one pick against San Francisco. So I think

751
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: he feels he's in the best shape of his career.

752
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: He's mentally, physically and spiritually in the right place, and

753
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: he has to be because he's the post safety. But

754
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: he's the leader in a very young secondary that last

755
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: week had three rookies in there, so they need his

756
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: leadership and his guidance and his ability to make things

757
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: happen on the back end. Jeff, speaking of the young secretary,

758
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: I want to piggyback off of your point because one

759
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: name that we didn't bring up yet is Janelen Johnson.

760
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: And you could argue since he was drafted in two

761
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: thousand twenty, he's developed into really the top corner on

762
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: the team. Unfortunately he did play last week. His absence

763
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: and obviously his questionable status I'm sure entering this week,

764
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: how have they had to navigate making up for him

765
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: and how significant of a loss has that been in

766
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: the early stages for the secretary. Well, you know, he's

767
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: your number one corner, so that's always a significant thing,

768
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: and they want nobody's thrown at him. I think it's

769
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: sixty one pass attempts and no targets in his direction

770
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: dating back to last season. So they're working on these

771
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: young bucks and there you know, as I said, there

772
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: were three rook He's in there last Sunday, Jalen Jones

773
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: and undrafted rookie had of Mississippi got in there. Big

774
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: lengthy corner with some wheels. Jaquon Brisker is the is

775
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: the safety pairing with Eddie Jackson at a Penn State.

776
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: Also a second round pick like Gordon and a really

777
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: feisty player as well. Loves loves to hit, and there's

778
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: high expectations for him too. So yeah, I mean, you

779
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: want to have your guys. You only have so many

780
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: quality corners. Kendallville door Is is getting a lot of

781
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: playing time and he had a good game last week.

782
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: So those are the directions you gotta lean And uh,

783
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, Matt eber Fleus is not afraid

784
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: to play young players. We've got sixteen rookies maybe seven

785
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: teen that have actually gotten on the field if you

786
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: count special teams already this year, most in the league.

787
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: And he's definitely gonna trust these young players to grow

788
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: and develop. Jeff, Let me go to the pass ross.

789
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn had that team record eighteen and a half

790
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: sacks last year and now as I look at his

791
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: stat line, I'm seeing one quarterback hit over the first

792
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: three weeks of the season. How surprising is that? Is

793
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: it much of an alarm right now for this defense? No,

794
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: no alarm. I mean he's one of the best pass

795
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: rushers of all time and uh, those coming droves for

796
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: for a guy like that. Yes, he had an unbelievable

797
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: year last year. I think all but three games he

798
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: had a sack. So, you know, working in a new system,

799
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: back to his comfort zone of putting his hand in

800
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: the dirt and going to get the quarterback. He's unique

801
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: in terms of his ankle flexion and bend ability to

802
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. He makes some really good moves.

803
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: But it's open things up for for some other players

804
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: as well as young players. Dominic Robinson and Trevis Gibson

805
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: have had two sack games in each case, and uh,

806
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: last week Justin Jones had himself as sax, So I

807
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. He's gone up against a variety

808
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: of different left tackles here. There's some young buck and

809
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: you guys got one as well, a great one there

810
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: at left tackle that he'll be trying to get put

811
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: a dent into. But he's a he's a leader captain

812
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: also on this team. People love what he does on

813
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: a very young team, one of the youngest in the NFL.

814
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: He's the great beard on this football team. But yeah,

815
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: they'd like they'd like to get the pass rush cooked up.

816
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: They don't blitz a bunch and uh, obviously pressure breaks pipes.

817
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 1: I could not believe what I saw Daniel Jones every

818
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: every second he was running around back there last last

819
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: Monday night with all those pressures. So Bears will try

820
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: to try to focus on doing the same. Yeah, you

821
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: figure that will be certainly a huge storyline to watch,

822
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: especially against the Giant's interior line, which you were hitting

823
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: on that struggled against the Cowboys. Jeff, last one for me.

824
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: Special teams has been a bit of a topic of

825
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: talk in Chicago, as you know, with respect to the

826
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: kicking game and other aspects. How much is Cairo Santos.

827
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: I know he's off to a fairly good start, stabilized

828
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: things for the most part, especially since, let's face it,

829
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: the Bears, like the Giants, have been playing a lot

830
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: of close games in the early stretch of this season. Yeah,

831
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the name of the game. And

832
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: today's n f I think they set a record for

833
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: how many games so far decided UH by UH one

834
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: score or less than the opening weeks of the season.

835
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, Cairo's absolutely automatic. He made on five of

836
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: his kicks on Sunday. Sold your field not an easy place,

837
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: and certainly when you got puddles of water on the

838
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: field for Week one, that was quite the challenge. So

839
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: there were two missed extra points in that game. But

840
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: he's become a guy that nobody really talks about. And

841
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: I think that's the best thing you could say about

842
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: a kicker right now in this league because it's it's

843
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: it fluctuates, and he went through um some tough times

844
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: in his career with Kansas City and other stops. But

845
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: since coming to the Bears, you know, he had a

846
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: streak of I think forty in a row, uh, dating

847
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: from one year to the next last year, and he's

848
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: he's coming strong again. And yeah, I have no no

849
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: worries at all about Cairo Santo's got a new putter.

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00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Trenton Gill uh had a really good putter in my opinion,

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00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: and Patrick O'Donnell and he happened to be the Special

852
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: Teams Player of the Week this week up there in

853
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Went to the other side. Guys, the other side. Pat,

854
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go where the money is and uh,

855
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: just terrific. I but we gotta put our young man

856
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: out of NC state. And he's got a big leg.

857
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: He's done a really nice job so far. And even

858
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: though you know real quand makes that pick, it's it's

859
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: four kneel downs basically to get on the left hash

860
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: and kick the game winner. Last week from thirty you

861
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: got a brand new punter and holder. You know, in

862
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: the in the in the end of a game like that,

863
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: you never know, alright, and the pressure hits everybody differently,

864
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: But you know that that's been good too. It's been

865
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: a smooth operation. So return game looking at you know,

866
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: a variety of options there, I know, uh, Baylis Jones Jr.

867
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: Is somebody they'd like to look at in the return game,

868
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: but he has not been able to play just yet

869
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: due to a hamstring getting closer. I'm not not sure

870
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: what his status will be for Sunday. And they got

871
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: another rookie back there returning kicks from Baylor and trusted Evner.

872
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: So again emphasis, I'm young. Special teams unit dotted with

873
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: young players to your point, at least, Luke Ketsi and

874
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick. Jeff chose the right side. They came home

875
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: from the dark side, so balances out. Yeah, and Eclamendius st. Brown, Yes, exact, yes,

876
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: exactly another one. It's a little short trip. Lucas Patrick

877
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: said he used to come to Chicago on weekends anyway

878
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: when he had to buy a week and long weekends there,

879
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: so he enjoyed Chicago, So why not. There you go.

880
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: So those three guys at least finally solve that riddle.

881
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: It is Jeff Jodiak bears radio play by playing out,

882
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: so setting the stage for the payers of the Giants

883
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Jeff, always good, catch it up with you.

884
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Greatly appreciate the time of the inside and we look

885
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: forward to seeing in East Rutherford, New Jersey this weekend. Well,

886
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: they're very good, Thanks Paul and Land's good to talk

887
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: to you guys. Good luck the rest of the season.

888
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: The Giants official connected TV streaming app, Giants TV brings

889
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,560
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890
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891
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892
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: look at the Bears from Jeff Joniac, the Voice of

893
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: the Bears on the radio. And now we'll wrap up

894
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: our Friday podcast like we do every week, our very

895
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: own Bob pop of the Voice of the Giants, had

896
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Giants head coach Brian Day.

897
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: The Giants take on the Chicago Bears, a battle of

898
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: two and one teams, story rivalry the Giants and Bears,

899
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: and as always, were joined by the head coach of

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00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable and coach. Before

901
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: we get onto the game this week, just talk about

902
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: the way your team responded during the week after suffering

903
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: the first loss of the season in a hard fought

904
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: game against the Cowboys. Yeah. I think that's the job

905
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: of myself and the coaches is to be consistent regardless

906
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: of results. The players know what is expected of them

907
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: throughout the week and how we're gonna prepare, and you know,

908
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: you fix a few things that you need to fix

909
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: whether you win or whether you lose, and you move

910
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: on with a positive mindset and uh, you know, the

911
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: ability to get to to get to the next team quickly.

912
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: Coach Um. Obviously, se Kuon Barkley is off to a

913
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: great start. Leads the league in yards from scrimmage um.

914
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: Last year he only had one game of seventy or

915
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: more rushing yards that came against the Bears ironically in Chicago.

916
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: This year, all three games consistent, making big plays for

917
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: you just talk about the way he's sort of embraced

918
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: what's going on and the leadership that he's shown with

919
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: this football team. Yeah, he's been great. You know, I

920
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: think you can go back to all the interviews I've

921
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: done since I've been here in O. T A. S.

922
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: And you know, it really started back in Otias with him,

923
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: and I think just trying to build his confidence is

924
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: important on our end. And you know, as he goes

925
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: out there and he performs the task we asked him

926
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: to do, I think his confidence improved on his end,

927
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: but you could see it as soon as you got

928
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: out there, the talent that this this guy had. Um,

929
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, quick, powerful, explosive, can run routes, has good

930
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: hands and I think that you know that went right

931
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: into training camp and you and you saw that, and

932
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I think all his hard work and his dedication and

933
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: his mindset have been a huge asset for us. Now

934
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: we fast forward to this week's game, right, you got

935
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: the Bears coming in and you know they run the football.

936
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Last week they did a tremendous job on the ground

937
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: and beating the Texans. Uh. Um, you know they're averaging

938
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty seven yards rushing per game. Is

939
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: it what they do a lot scheme wise, or is

940
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: it's just something where they are executing at a high

941
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: level and they're just whipping the guy in front of them.

942
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a combination of both. Um, they

943
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: have very good runners. Their line has been doing a

944
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: good job of getting a hat for a hat, and

945
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: they've been breaking some big ones. Um. You know, that's

946
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: a identity I think of their football team is to

947
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: be tough and be able to run the ball. And

948
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: you know they've they've bought into what coaching refluss is

949
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: teaching U and explosive place. You guys this season have

950
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: three runs of twenty or more yards, they have five

951
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: of twenty or more yards. So chunk plays or something

952
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: that uh, you know you talk about and methodically going

953
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: down the field is great, But in order to be

954
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: able to score consistently, you need some of these chunk

955
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: type plays, don't you. Absolutely the odds of of scoring

956
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns are getting points when you have a chunk play

957
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: dramatically increases. Uh. And in a running game, you know,

958
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: it's it's usually a result of of running back making

959
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: somebody miss or a miss tackle where they take it.

960
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, for a long play, Uh, there there's gonna

961
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: be some holes that open up that you know. The

962
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: first three or four or five yards might be might

963
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: be clean salon and then all of a sudden there's

964
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: a few guys and if you can make those guys miss,

965
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: that's that's usually how big runs happen in this league.

966
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: When you look at your passing game, coach, do you

967
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: only have one pass play of over thirty yards? That

968
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: was cheps sixty five yard touchdown? Uh in the game

969
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: against Tennessee in week one. Uh. Some coaches that I've

970
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: been around, not just in football, but when I was

971
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: working in the NBA. Uh, they some guys have the

972
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: flow always are kind of complaining about what a guy

973
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: what what this guy can't do. You come from the

974
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: school of you always talk about positives of you know, hey,

975
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: what guys can do. When you look back at some

976
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: of the things that you're lacking in your passing game,

977
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: do you do you take the positives of, hey, we've

978
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: had some plays there. It's either a protection broke down

979
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: or a ball was dropped or but we're getting to

980
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: it now. We just have to be more consistent and

981
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: there's a positive feeling despite the fact that the numbers

982
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: aren't where you wanted to be. Absolutely. I think the

983
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, the challenging part of being a coach is,

984
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, coming in from from a loss and overreacting,

985
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: and that's not what we're gonna do here. There's a

986
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: lot of things that are done the way we want them,

987
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: and the result right now might not be what we want.

988
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: But I think you show them things that hey, these

989
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: have looked good. If we get into this situation next time,

990
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: let's make sure we do this a little better or

991
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: have our eyes over here, or finish on a play.

992
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: But that's you know, that's how we approach it. The

993
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: other component of this coach of special teams, right, I mean, um,

994
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: whether it's a kick that's made or or creating field position. Hey,

995
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: let's face it, the Cowboys had a score in the

996
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: game the other night that was set up strictly via

997
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: special teams. Um, talk about the emphasis that you've put

998
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: on that as far as not only being sound on

999
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: your special teams but also trying to turn it into

1000
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: an advantage. Yeah, I think you know, we've made some

1001
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: plays the first two weeks. We we got the ball

1002
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: on a muff punt. We went down there on a

1003
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: first kickoff of the Carolina game and cause a fumble

1004
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: that we returned. But we're we're you know, we're keeping

1005
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: We'll keep on working and improving and and eliminating some

1006
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: of these big plays that look, that's complimentary football. You know.

1007
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: You you kick the ball off, you tackle them inside

1008
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: of twenty, our defense goes out and they get a

1009
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: three and out, we get a good field position. You know,

1010
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: that's team football, and you know we work on that

1011
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: every week. And special teams is a critical element to that, coach.

1012
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: The other thing, too is creating opportunities. Um. You guys

1013
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: have forced three fumbles and recovered three opponents fumbles. Two

1014
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: of them have come on specials. UM. One On defense,

1015
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: how do you increase the turnover productivity from the defensive unit? Yeah,

1016
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: we we talked about it every day, probably the first

1017
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: thing we talked about in our meetings. UM. From Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1018
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: Um or Monday? Should I say? And you know, we

1019
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: work on it every day in practice, we do drills

1020
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: and I think that's just you know, being diligent as

1021
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: a as a player. Um, in terms of practicing it

1022
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: the right way, which we have been. They just haven't

1023
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: come yet. So we can't. We can't get discouraged. We

1024
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: gotta have eleven hats to the ball. We gotta rip

1025
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: and strip and and target our guys that we think,

1026
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, are a little bit loose on ball security.

1027
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: And UM, you know, stay at it. Final question, coach. Obviously,

1028
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: Cavon and di Zes returned last week. They worked really

1029
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: hard to come back from their injuries to get on

1030
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: the field. UM. Not easy. You said they were on

1031
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: a pitch count. Are you seeing more and more from

1032
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: them where their roles can be expanded a bit. Yeah,

1033
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: I think like these guys have worked extremely hard to

1034
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: get back. Uh. They played you know, select amount of

1035
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: plays last game, and hopefully we'll see them play a

1036
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: little bit more of this game again. The players safety

1037
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: and you know, well being not just from game to

1038
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: game but for the season is very important to us,

1039
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: and you know we're trying to do right by them. Coach,

1040
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: we appreciate a couple of minutes. Best of luck this

1041
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: afternoon as you try to wrap up this Homestand you

1042
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: don't really say that in football that much a homestand

1043
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: but you have three in a row. It's almost like baseball.

1044
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Has it been fun being at home for a little bit, absolutely,

1045
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean last week's atmosphere and you know, the first

1046
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: game against Carolina just it's been electric here. Um. Wish

1047
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: we could have had a different result last week. But

1048
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: the fan base, the support, um, how they have been

1049
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: during the games is really you know, creating an advantage

1050
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: for us on the defensive side of the ball with

1051
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: they're cheering, they're yelling, um, and we need to do

1052
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: a good job of of doing things that you know,

1053
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: keep those guys going because you know, it's very, very

1054
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: helpful as a home team when you have a crowd

1055
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: like that. Coach, we appreciate the time is always best

1056
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: of luck, all right. We thank Brian Dable, We thank

1057
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Speaker 1: Jeff Joniac, and we thank Richie James for joining us

1058
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Speaker 1: on this edition of the John's Subtle Podcast. As the

1059
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Speaker 1: Giants get ready to take on the Bears at MetLife

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Speaker 1: Stadium on Sunday at one o'clock, they try to bounce

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Speaker 1: back from that loss against the Cowboys on Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football in Week three, but the Giants still two and

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Speaker 1: one Bears two and one. Should be a fun game.

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Speaker 1: I hope we see you guys out there are MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for joining us. But remember go back

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Speaker 1: one episode on the Giant Huttle podcast feed. Check out

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Speaker 1: that Darryl Johnston interview. It's a great interview. Check it

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Speaker 1: out on YouTube podcast channels jihants dot com Giants app,

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Speaker 1: and go to that separate podcast feed for draft season.

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Speaker 1: That last episode posted this week as well. Dame Brugler

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Speaker 1: joins the show again to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: college prospects that are making noise heading into the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft in three Thanks for joining us. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time.