WEBVTT - Latino Hustle: Oscars 2024 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.040 This is Latino USA, the Radio Journal of News and 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:08.840 Kurturre Latino US. Latino USA, I'm Maria in no Josa. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.560 We bring you stories that are underreported but that mattered 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.720 to you, overlooked by the rest of the media, and 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.840 while the country is struggling to deal with these, we 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.960 listen to the stories of Black and Latino Studio United 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.919 Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront of 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.480 the movement. I'm Maria Ino Josa, Noaan. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.960 I think we have a long way to go, but 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:41.320 there are green shoots and the Latino community specifically has 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.960 a lot of energy and community building that will pay 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.520 dividends in the long run. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.560 From Futro Media and PRX, It's Latino USA. I'm Maria 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.640 no Rosa. Today a number of Latinos and Latinas and 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.560 folks from Latin America have been nominated for Oscars. So 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.399 what does this all mean about the state of Hollywood 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:16.320 and Latino storytelling. In a few days, the Academy of 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.040 Motion Picture Arts and Sciences will hold its ninety six 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.120 Oscars ceremony. It's a new opportunity for many in the 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.840 movie making business to be recognized for Excellence in Cinema, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:33.800 and yet another year in which, unfortunately, representation from Latinos 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.440 and Latinas Latine and LATINX on the big screen has 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:43.040 remained somewhat stagnant. Just five point five percent of speaking 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:48.720 characters in Hollywood movies are Latino or Latina. This despite 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.040 the fact that Latinos make up nineteen percent of the 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.120 US population and have a buying power of three point 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:01.760 four trillion dollars, and Latinos by lots and lots of 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:06.040 movie tickets. This year, America Ferrera has earned her first 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.079 OSCAR nomination for her supporting role in the movie Barbie. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:15.959 I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.880 other woman tie herself into knots so that people will. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.840 Like us and that Coleman Domingo has become the first 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:29.120 Afro Latino nominated for Best Actor for his performance as 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.760 civil rights activist Bayard Rustin. We are going to. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.880 Put together the largest peaceful protests. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:41.160 Made up of angelic troublemakers such as yourself. But there 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.560 are several other Latinos and Latin Americans in different roles 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.600 in OSCAR nominated films who you might not have heard 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.640 about yet. We're gonna speak with some of them today. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.000 We'll hear from Mike de Alberti, whose film The Eternal 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:59.639 Memory is nominated for Best Documentary Feature about Alzheimer's will 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.200 also here from producer and writer Phil Lord, nominated for 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.519 Spider Man Across the Spider Verse. But we're going to 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.480 start with the movie Society of the Snow, nominated for 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.960 Oscars in the Best International Feature Film category and Best 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:20.000 Makeup and Hairstyling. I had a conversation recently with Roberto Ganesa, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.120 one of the survivors of the nineteen seventy two plane 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.960 crash Indianes, on which the movie is based. We also 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.240 spoke with Mattias Recalde, who is the young actor who 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:34.400 plays him in the film. Roberto Kansa, the survivor, is 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.480 a cardiologist now in his native Uru Why and that's 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:43.160 where he joined me for this conversation. Roberto, So, a 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.280 lot of people now will only know you as Roberto 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.760 from the plane crash when you were in your twenties. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:56.880 You are how old now, Antolo risperto seventy one? And frankly, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:58.320 you look amazing. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:03:58.840 Roberto. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.280 I just have to say you, you look amazing. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.280 But you lied to me. You said you were twenty 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:05.720 five and you look twenty seven. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:11.640 May well, now that we've brought up age, right, what 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.560 I want to tell you is that most people will 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.240 not know now that you have become a very well 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:21.599 established medical doctor in uru way, and that this is 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.960 what you did with your life. Your life went way 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.839 beyond what happened in the Andes in nineteen seventy two. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.480 So congratulations on a great career and on giving back 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.120 in this way. I was, I guess eleven years old 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.680 when the plane crashed, and so I was watching on 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:46.360 television in Chicago in my parents' apartment, and we were 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.720 watching the footage of what was happening, a. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.720 Film of what very nearly amounts to a real miracle, 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.760 survivors of a plane crash and the Chilean Andes. The 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.799 plane went down ten weeks ago. The forty five people 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.719 aboard were given up for death. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.200 We knew the story, and that's why I just want 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.000 to say, in particular, it means a lot to be 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:08.919 talking with you. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.880 Oh, I got emotional. I am like a legend. I 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:18.920 am like a walking bronze statue. It's very funny because 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.760 it happens how people look to me and then my 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:27.680 every day life. Thanks God, I don't buy all this popularity. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.720 If you can just tell me, like what it was like. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.839 If you go back to nineteen seventy two, disco music 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:39.880 was happening, right, you were happy, excited, and you're getting 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.360 ready to board the plane. So what did your life 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:42.800 look like? 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:43.560 Well? 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.560 I was a medical student and second year a medical 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.520 student and playing rugby. I had made it the previous 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.560 year to the national team, which I was very proud of, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.760 and we had done the trip one year before to Chile, 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.279 so everything was fun. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.120 You know, everybody focuses on what happens in the movie, right, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.880 this extraordinary period of about seventy days, But you have 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.960 this other life. I mean, did you do a lot 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:12.600 of therapy? 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:17.800 No? No, no, no. I mean when I came out 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.480 of the Andes, was that you had an elephant sitting 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.120 on my shoulders? Yeah? I was so happy, so happy 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.080 did I and I walked out to the Andes to 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.880 go to my life now to have an interview fIF 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.240 years later in Latino with Maria so And when I 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.520 was back at home, I saw people who were suffering 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.520 lots more, the parents of my friends that had died. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.600 They wanted to talk to me. They wanted to know 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.200 what did they say? What happened? I mean, they didn't 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:50.520 care about the way we had to survive. They care 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.560 about what their sons were saying. And the rugby team 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.080 was completely distorted and we had to rebuild a team, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.000 and the coach said, we'll need five years to get 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.120 the team running again. And on that year we became champions. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.599 And the father of ar two real Nogaia that died 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.520 on the plane crash, hugged me and told me, my 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.640 son is not here, but you are here. So he 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.000 gave me a very strong responsibility and support. And I 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.800 had to go to the faculty of medicine, and if 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.760 I didn't study, I didn't get up with my exams, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.200 and I had my girlfriend, so I didn't have any 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.480 time for the psychiatry to sit there and asking how 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.120 I feel, How I do it? I mean, I am 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.440 very kinetic and I like achieving things. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.000 What exactly do you mean by kinetic? And what do 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.320 you think that the fact that you were kinetic has 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:43.960 to do with the fact that you survived. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.320 My mother says that when I was in the cradle, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.440 I was moving my hands all the time, so and 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.920 I wanted to go back. I didn't want my mother 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.000 to cry for that son. So I want to tell 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.360 her I don't cry anymore. I'm alive. And it was 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.000 my driving force. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.920 So would you say that this thing that you survived 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.800 fifty years ago, you don't spend a lot of time 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.240 thinking about it now or do you now? Because of 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.680 the movie, all of this has come back in the 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.920 last five years in the making of And how has 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.920 that been for you or was it always with you? 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.560 Yes, it's with me, but I don't want to contaminate 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.520 my life with all the time deandes. But nowadays with 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.680 the film, and I see all the people so enthusiastic. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.160 The other day, it was in Miami and a teenager 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.960 came around and she couldn't speak and say, are you Roberto? 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.840 I cannot believe it's you. She was from Colombia. There's 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:43.000 a lot of young people with a philosophy of the mountain, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.600 and I think that's a very good contribution to life. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.400 And that's the reason why I think that this film 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.040 should get the OSCAR, because it's changing people's life. Besides 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.400 being a film, it's all a contribution to be a 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.760 better person for people. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:03.600 It is that film that's just like wow, somehow you 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:08.720 can't survive anything the power of the human body and spirit. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.200 So I think you're right. It is a film that 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.800 says just never, never give up, and that isn't truly 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.520 a powerful message. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.920 It's a contribution to humans behavior. I think we should 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.160 treasure it and should get around. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.000 So what was it like for you, Roberto to see 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:27.480 the film? 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.360 Well, I thought, well, this is quite different than what 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.560 happened in the mountains. And then I thought, but this 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.800 is not a documentary, it's a film. And when I 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.640 told the director, he said, Roberto, if we show what 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:42.599 you went through. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.319 People live the movie. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.200 I want to have a movie that people will enjoy 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:51.040 seeing the movie and they have a movie experience, not 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.480 a torture. And this is the masterpiece of how he 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.280 did the things to make it artistic. The spirit is there, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.120 the spirit we get. I get emotional when I see 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.200 the movie. Then I have always tears pouring through my 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.560 eyes when I think when I see how how God 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.520 has been to me that has led us achieve what 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:13.200 we achieve. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.600 No, you're crying. We were saying we were not going 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.400 to get emotional in this conversation. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:23.880 But come on, when you see those helicopters flying over there, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.800 over the guys, and we were left with Nando walking 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.880 maybe to die walking, and then we sell them to gorgeous, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.080 sexy helicopters to get them. I mean, if that's not 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.280 the try off of human spirit, I don't know what 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:38.760 it is. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.280 And you use the word torture, can you just talk 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.160 to me for a second about the use of that 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.080 word torture to refer to what you live through in 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:47.800 the andes. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:54.000 It's never ending pain from for the soul and the body. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:11:01.000 But incredibly, incredibly, this film has no malignancy. This is 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.600 a film that could be seen by twelve year old 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:10.319 boys because there's no human malignancy. It's the ancient fight 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.560 of men against nature. We're facing nature. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.600 Roberto servis just a little bit. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.320 I am. I am a cardiologist, so I can't fix it. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.880 How can you men a broken heart? 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:32.640 How can you stop the rain from falling down? Oh? 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.760 Can you stop? How about that? I'm a romantic, I'm 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.599 a termal romantic. I can't start. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:40.719 How can you. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:41.640 Stop the rain? 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:42.960 Oh? 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.960 The song is Al Green's hit how can you mend 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.520 a Broken Heart? It came out in nineteen seventy two, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.560 the same year Roberto survived that plane crash in the Andes. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.800 Coming up, I asked actor Matthias RecA what it was 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.000 like to play Roberto Kanessa in the film, some of 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.839 the challenges that came up with some very intensely emotional 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.760 and physical scenes in the movie, and what has stayed 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:15.160 with him about the story of relentless survival stay with us, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:55.440 not byas hey, we're back before the break we heard 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.400 from Roberto Ganesa, one of the sixteen survivors from the 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.280 nineteen seventy two plane crash in the Andes. The incredible 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.000 story has been taken to the big screen and is 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.040 now Spain's candidate for an Oscar in the Best International 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.080 Feature Film category. In the movie, Roberto Carnesa is played 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:27.000 by Matthias ricalto Mesina. Before playing Roberto, Matiez had already 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.079 gained some recognition in his native Argentina for his supporting 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.280 role in the Netflix series Apache, but Society of the 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.360 Snow is definitely a breakthrough for this actor, so I 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.560 wanted to take him back to when he was first 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:46.280 auditioning for the role and finding out who Roberto was. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.240 The character that he would be playing. And by the way, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.480 even though Matiez speaks English, he felt more comfortable chatting 0:13:53.520 --> 0:14:01.000 with me in Spanish. So Matti, yes, I know that 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.520 the process of auditioning for the film was just beautiful. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.720 And the moment when all of you find out that 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.360 you were actually cast. How much did you know about 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.000 Roberto before you played Roberto in the film? 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:27.840 Well, no Roberto, no andel de Roe, Chantela or porcel 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:35.840 Argentina and Argentina secte Chicota and to Familia. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.800 Mattiaz said that he remembered hearing about the plane crash 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.680 when he was little, because members of his family would 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.600 be talking about this event that happened in nineteen seventy two. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:58.720 Guando Guano, Roberto sawa Avia, Wido sants and likedro loses well, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:07.080 bileedro Lo san dis robertoo. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.520 And then Mattias tells me that he ends up visiting 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.120 his theater teacher, who happened to have a copy of 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:18.040 the book that Roberto Canesa wrote about his experience in 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.760 the Andes. It's a book that not everyone has, and 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.760 Mattia says he found this kind of mystical. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.520 Roberto dambien. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:39.000 Jo Dennisoso. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.200 He says, the first time Roberto and Jim met in person, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.240 they played tennis against another survivor of the plane crash. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.760 His name is Gustabo Serbino, along with the actor who 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.840 played him in the Society of the Snow the real 0:15:55.880 --> 0:16:00.440 life and the fictional Ganessas actually beat the Serbinos in 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.760 that game. Roerto, what was it like for you when 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.440 you met Matis? 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.040 Well, it moved my heart because he was going to 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.320 give his best to do everything, and I thought, I'm 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.600 going to help you, but it's up to him how 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:16.600 much he will receive. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.080 So I'm wondering, and I know this is strange, Roberto, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.640 all of it is strange. Right, see yourself in your 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.920 twenties pro how did Matias do? 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.160 Spectacular? Very good? 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:30.760 Very good? 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.880 So an iNeST momento, Matis, what have you learned from 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.000 Roberto as a human being who is alive? Right? And 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.720 what did you learn about Roberto as a character that 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.560 you were playing during the entire filming process. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.360 Poco a. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:56.880 Pegno momentos roberta. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:04.399 La okaycho. 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:25.760 Miguel Mattias told me that he appreciated how much Roberto 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.280 values his family and his friends, and he learned from 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.080 Roberto that while he was willing to step up and 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:38.720 give so much of himself in that extreme situation, he 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:45.679 liked Mattias also kept something private just to themselves, things 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.880 that they didn't share with the others. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:53.840 It's kind of crazy, but because this film has gone worldwide, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.720 all of those things that you say that you appreciate 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.520 about Roberto the person are things that we're not learning 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.280 about him, and the whole world is learning. So, speaking 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.880 of which getting really huge. You know, when the film 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.639 gets nominated for an Oscar, it is in fact a 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.520 big deal. So I want to know where were the 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.440 both of you when you found out that you actually 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.439 had been nominated, your film had been nominated for an Oscar. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:18.800 So what was your immediate reaction? 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.280 I was not very impressed. I mean, I think that 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.399 there are so many stupid films around. There was about 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:35.720 time to give time for important films speaking about human 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.400 values and and and being made so well by by 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:45.000 a Latin you know what, something that they deserved. I mean, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.720 these poor actors, they were all they they're putting snow 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.880 under under the clothes to fill the cold. They were 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.200 and among themselves they build a group and they took 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:01.199 care about about each other, and there was great I 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.239 mean they suffered a lot until late o'clock when they 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:06.840 went to hotel to get the whole shower. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.040 Like Roberto Mattiz tells me that he actually wasn't that 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.840 impressed with the Oscar nomination. He also said he knew 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.320 the movie deserved the recognition. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:27.440 Project, and then he said. 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.159 Winning would be a nice surprise. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:30.040 Though. 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:43.760 Amos better better. Feliceo gle persona pargetto. 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.359 So Madias, I actually want to ask what was the 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:51.480 hardest part of it all? 0:19:52.359 --> 0:20:02.560 Wells and ke momento mafisi for momento momento an fico 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.400 emotionali tegnico macon brigo. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:10.399 Matthias said that re enacting the avalanche that took place 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:15.080 seventeen days after the plane crashed, an avalanche that would 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.720 kill eight of the initial survivors, was the hardest part 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.639 of filming, physically, emotionally and. 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:33.320 Technically domnas dom madioso don remente mosonantes don de sa 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:39.439 jenmertoos pienoes full momento mass mass manifici. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.240 Mattias said it would take them two weeks filming inside 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.439 a plane with real snow and ice in order to 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:51.760 get those scenes, and yet Matthias adds that there were 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.400 multiple hard moments during the filming. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.400 Tomentolo Lacient. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:15.920 Dies at l Now particularly. 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.119 He says it's because they chose to film chronologically, which 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.960 meant that death became more and more present with every 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.000 day that they were filming, because people were dying in 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.919 real life, and then the actors had to interpret that 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.960 along with the exhaustion, because all of the actors had 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.439 to lose weight in order to stay true to the 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:43.359 story and their almost starvation. I know that watching the film, 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.920 you're right, as Batia said, there are several things that happen, 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.440 which is like getting punched over and over and over again. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:54.399 Things continue to happen, but when there is the avalanche, 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.280 I did feel like, how do you just not give up? 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.359 Was in fact the avalanche one of the worst things 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.040 that happened? Or was it like hra was just one 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:06.480 more thing? 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:07.760 No? 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.520 What was the worst? Yeah? I mean it's like when 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.520 you they kick you on the floor. That's what I 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:18.920 felt that I was being beaten on the floor, and 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.960 and the state of spiritual stature was that I had 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:26.440 envy for dead people. I thought they were they were 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.159 better than me. That I was a worse person and 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.480 I need to pay my sins because I didn't have anything. 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.120 The think I had is life. And on the next day, 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.680 Alito Spice says, this is a very important day and 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.320 today my sister's day. And next year we were like, 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.040 we have a barbecue with cream and cheese and everything. 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.800 I said, shut up, Calito's only stupid were dying here 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:56.119 and you were speaking about your stupid party, and he said, Canisa, 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.520 you have very ill tempered. I'm not going to invite 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:00.920 you to the or barbar. 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.480 Oh my god. Okay. So obviously the question has to 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.959 be the role of humor in all of this, The 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.679 role of laughter in your survival. 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:18.560 Looka between sublime and ridiculous. There's no limit, and to 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.040 to laugh at your own disgrace, it helps you to 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:23.399 get around suffer. 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:28.080 Bless Mattias, What do you hope that people get from 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.560 the film? Like, what do you think is the message 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:31.280 of the film? 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:39.200 At the COLLECTI and the personas. 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:44.320 Luas and Ma. 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:52.560 Confier okay, okay, car finale pass. 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.000 For Mattias, he says, the message of the film is 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.800 the power of unity in the face of a common 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.800 goal and a hope that there can always be a 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.360 light at the end of the tunnel. 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:20.480 Momentos doos almost a second films, and. 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.159 He says it's also about the ability of human beings 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:30.640 to overcome anything, including death. Mattias lost his father two 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:37.359 months before he began filming. Roberto, what can you share 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:43.200 with us about the thing that kept you alive? That miracle? 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:48.080 What is it being very strubborn or what do you 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:53.040 want realizing that someday you're going to die? But what 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:57.440 about the other days? And the dying is not that bad? 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.520 When I was buried alive in the avalanche and I 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:07.600 felt I was dying, it wasn't that bad. You are 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:08.880 a chronicle. 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:16.760 Crier, then you're already read a chronicle crier, Roberto. We 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.680 know that you have to go back to your patients. 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.320 So thank you so much for your entire story and 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.920 for spending some time with me and with Matthias and 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:25.760 letting the USA. 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.960 And I am very, very proud of of Matthias. He 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.879 did a great job in the film. He's like the 0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:37.320 voice of the conscious. He's he's always there, hearing and 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:42.040 ready to make contributions in a very humble way, which is. 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.160 Not likely an absolute masterpiece. 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:53.080 Kisses Pieces, Bye Bye. 0:25:52.960 --> 0:26:14.280 If Alicia is Mike de Alberti is the first Chilean 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.520 woman to be nominated for an Academy Award. This is 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.159 the second time one of her films is nominated for 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.199 Best Documentary Feature. This time she's competing with the film 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:28.120 The Eternal Memory, which is a documentary about the relationship 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:32.040 between Chilean journalist Agusta gong Ra and his wife, the 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:37.440 actress Aulina Urutia. They are coping with Gongorras Alzheimer's disease. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:42.199 Gong Rah, the journalist, dedicated most of his career to 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:47.160 exposing human rights violations during the dictatorship of Agusto Pinochet 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.159 in Chile from nineteen seventy three to nineteen ninety and 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:55.879 he was committed to keeping that memory alive. It is 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.959 a powerful movie, and so I start my conversation with 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.200 might say by telling her why I found her film 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:07.159 to be so incredibly relatable. I have to tell you 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:13.639 your movie when it was really profound because my father, 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.800 who was at a very accomplished medical doctor with a brilliant mind, 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:24.720 also had Alzheimer's and basically my mom and my brother 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.640 were told by my dad's doctor. Once he passed away, 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.439 they said, had it not been for the amount of 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.679