Speaker 1: You're tuned into Heat Check with Trystal Quick.
Speaker 2: On this episode of the Heat Check, there is so
Speaker 2: much popping around the league it is almost impossible to
Speaker 2: keep up. The Sixers get sent home in seven, and
Speaker 2: now there is absolute chaos in Philly. I think every
Speaker 2: Philadelphia podcaster is hiding still underneath their bet. They haven't
Speaker 2: even given their reactions yet. Suns get bounced and then
Speaker 2: they fire their head coach. DeMar de Rozen is out
Speaker 2: there calling a quarter of the NBA bumps. Aunt Edwards
Speaker 2: is doing Aunt Edwards things, and unfortunately Jahn Morant is
Speaker 2: still doing Jahn Morant things.
Speaker 3: No time to.
Speaker 2: Waste, Nick, drop that generic ass beat that should be Rihanna.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this Celtics Sixers series sixers were.
Speaker 3: A cute story.
Speaker 2: Uh they were, They really were. They made it seven games.
Speaker 2: It really was never in doubt. They had the potential
Speaker 2: to send the Boston Celtics home in six. They had
Speaker 2: four minutes where all of a sudden they allowed Jason
Speaker 2: Tatum to go nuclear and it pretty much was a.
Speaker 3: Rap ever since.
Speaker 2: Right like even the most diehard Philly fan, if you're
Speaker 2: honest with yourself, if you're a dieard Philly fan, You're
Speaker 2: probably not even listening because you probably hate my guts.
Speaker 2: But were you confident heading into game seven? Like?
Speaker 3: Were you?
Speaker 2: Were you even like having a modicum of you know,
Speaker 2: excitement about going in to TD Garden on that parquet
Speaker 2: floor and thinking you were gonna beat Jason Tatum who
Speaker 2: had just come alive and found his mojo again like
Speaker 2: he was Angela Bassett and Stella got her groove back.
Speaker 2: Like no, if you say yes, you're a liar, you are. History,
Speaker 2: of course was against you. Doc Rivers record in Game
Speaker 2: seven's they speak for themselves. I don't think he's won.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's won a Game seven in his
Speaker 2: career as a head coach, which is crazy. Momentum was
Speaker 2: against you.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know what else?
Speaker 2: The universe seemed to be against you because you had
Speaker 2: not one, but two superstars both together have had well
Speaker 2: documented playoff struggles. Maybe not put those two guys together right,
Speaker 2: like maybe you want to balance it out. How could
Speaker 2: you possibly have thought that this was gonna go any
Speaker 2: other way than the way that it did?
Speaker 3: Insanity? What do they say?
Speaker 2: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting
Speaker 2: a different result. It is Doc Rivers coughing up leads
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. It is James Harden underperforming in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: It is Joelle Embiid being injured over and over in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Wash rinse, try repeat, wash rint dry. That's that.
Speaker 2: That's them. We keep trying to say, oh, maybe twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three will be different, Maybe twenty twenty four will
Speaker 2: be different, maybe twenty twenty five will be different.
Speaker 3: At a certain point, we just got to accept reality.
Speaker 3: Move on. This version of the Sixers is not working.
Speaker 2: And you know what's wild is that the Sacramento Kings,
Speaker 2: a team that's been regarded as a poverty franchise for
Speaker 2: many years now, a team that has been you know,
Speaker 2: shit on by the national media, a team that really
Speaker 2: has just been like the laughing stock of the league
Speaker 2: until this year, they have been to the conference finals
Speaker 2: more recently than the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. I don't
Speaker 2: mean that is sad and the trolling way I mean it,
Speaker 2: and it is a very sad thing that a guy
Speaker 2: like Joe l Embiid has not been to anywhere close
Speaker 2: to the place that the Sacramento Kings have been in.
Speaker 2: And that's saying something like I don't know how this
Speaker 2: team stays together honestly moving forward.
Speaker 3: The process.
Speaker 2: I've said it once twice, I've said it three times.
Speaker 2: The process is dead. The process has been dead. We're
Speaker 2: trying to put it back together like operation, and it's
Speaker 2: just not working. We're trying to revive it with those
Speaker 2: two little paddles with the electrical concurrent on him.
Speaker 3: It's no, it's dead. It is dead.
Speaker 2: Fifty one points by Tatum and the Game seven route
Speaker 2: a destruction, an embarrassment, or as Embiid and Yannis both
Speaker 2: like to say, steps to success.
Speaker 3: How bad is it? How bad is it? Right now?
Speaker 2: It is so bad that you have Ben Simmons on
Speaker 2: his Instagram from his living room with a glass of
Speaker 2: red wine taking a photo of the Sixers getting blown
Speaker 2: out by the Celtics by thirty and just posting it
Speaker 2: no context, just like yeah, like they are just enjoying it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? He that red wine, a
Speaker 2: beautiful living room and a photo of the TV of
Speaker 2: the Sixers getting destroyed in a Game seven. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how bad it is. He is loving that, And that
Speaker 2: is the sad truth that Philly fans woke up to today.
Speaker 2: No more excuses you don't have any other scapegoat left.
Speaker 2: Not even Ben Simmons can wash away the stink of
Speaker 2: this epic failure of a team. It is their third
Speaker 2: straight loss in the conference SEMIS. You ad Joel Embiid
Speaker 2: the MVP.
Speaker 3: It is the year for.
Speaker 2: Him to show out the stats in this series. Twenty
Speaker 2: two points, nine rebounds, and two assists. That's disgusting. That
Speaker 2: is garbage efficiency numbers. Also terrible. Forty two percent from
Speaker 2: the floor. He shot twenty percent from three, getting absolutely
Speaker 2: locked up by a man who has his AARP card
Speaker 2: in Al Horford.
Speaker 3: Al Horford on Joel Embiid. Remember when PJ.
Speaker 2: Tucker said no one on the planet can stop JOELMB
Speaker 2: when he's aggressive. Turns out, forty year old Al Horford
Speaker 2: can stop Joel MB. Harden roller coaster Ride had a
Speaker 2: couple of insane vintage performances, which we've already talked about.
Speaker 2: But overall during the series he's averaged twenty two points
Speaker 2: per game, forty two percent from the floor and thirty
Speaker 2: four percent from three. And if you want to talk
Speaker 2: about comparisons to Ben Simmons, in the last three games
Speaker 2: of this series, Harden had no points in the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter in all of those three games combined, none zero zilch.
Speaker 2: He went zero for six in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 2: games seven, six, and five. In fact, Ben Simmons had
Speaker 2: more points than James Harden in fourth quarter in that
Speaker 2: Hawk series where he basically ended his career right then
Speaker 2: and there, five points, all free throws.
Speaker 3: And so now where are we at?
Speaker 2: The rumors are that James Harden is itching to get
Speaker 2: back to Houston. He has a house there, he's there
Speaker 2: and every off day he's got a restaurant there, beautiful,
Speaker 2: very luscious in one of those Fois Gras wrapped steak
Speaker 2: lobster deals, you know that kind of a deal.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of strip clubs there.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he loves he loves Houston. Now, Ema Udoka
Speaker 2: is there? Another rumor is also floating around that Harden
Speaker 2: may be going to Phoenix. You know where the rumors
Speaker 2: are not that he's coming back to Philadelphia, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't hear any rumors of Harden excited to return back
Speaker 2: with Darryl Moury and Doc Rivers. Harden was asked after
Speaker 2: the game and a scrum Hey, what's your relationship like
Speaker 2: with Doc? And what did Harden say? Did he reap
Speaker 2: like praise, Oh, I love Doc. We've got a strong relationship.
Speaker 2: So good He said, uh, it's okay and just left
Speaker 2: it at that. Does that inspire confidence? Is that a
Speaker 2: ringing endorsement for Doc? No?
Speaker 3: What did Doc say about James? He said, I think.
Speaker 2: Overall he enjoyed being here. When you got to add
Speaker 2: an overall to it, that means there were some places
Speaker 2: he did not enjoy it, he said.
Speaker 3: You know, it's tough for him.
Speaker 2: We asked him to play a little different than he's
Speaker 2: always been accustomed to.
Speaker 3: I think it made us a better team.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, I thought for James at times it wasn't
Speaker 2: always best for him. But he still did it. And
Speaker 2: you know, we appreciate that as a coach. You know
Speaker 2: who didn't appreciate it probably James Harden. He probably didn't
Speaker 2: appreciate it at all. Back to what I said before,
Speaker 2: no excuses. You don't lose because Harden went to Brickville
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. You didn't lose because Embiid settled
Speaker 2: for mid range jumpers instead of attacking the rim.
Speaker 3: You didn't lose because Embiid was hurt.
Speaker 2: For yet another playoff series, the Sixers didn't lose because
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers continued to freeze in the big moment. The
Speaker 2: Sixers lost because of all these things combined. There's not
Speaker 2: one person or one thing to point the finger at.
Speaker 2: They lost because this team was never as good as
Speaker 2: anyone thought that they were. And that goes all away
Speaker 2: from Daryl Morey down to Doc Rivers, to players like
Speaker 2: Embiide to Harden, to role players who are overpaid like
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris and George Yang and Tyrese Maxey and PJ.
Speaker 2: Tucker and all of them and everyone all of them.
Speaker 2: The question is not how to tweak this roster and
Speaker 2: fix it. The structure is broken. I think we now
Speaker 2: know major changes need to happen in order for them
Speaker 2: to figure out a path forward over and above where
Speaker 2: they've continuously been and hit their ceiling on the glass
Speaker 2: ceiling is obviously there.
Speaker 3: They can't get to the conference finals.
Speaker 2: So how do you do that? Who do you keep?
Speaker 2: How do you build a team around them? Because ten
Speaker 2: years in the process has told you that this team
Speaker 2: is no better than a second round exit. So that's
Speaker 2: if you aspire to more, you need to change it.
Speaker 2: You've got to make radical changes that this franchise has
Speaker 2: avoided for a decade.
Speaker 3: What does that mean if you're honest, If you're honest.
Speaker 2: Who's the major trade piece that you have and you
Speaker 2: can get a lot for Well, you know, Harden's a
Speaker 2: free agent, so it's not him. Tobias Harris is overpaid,
Speaker 2: so it's not him. Tyree Macks he's very young and
Speaker 2: very cheap, so you could probably get something back for him.
Speaker 2: But if we're really honest, the only real trade chip
Speaker 2: that this team has is Joel Embiid. That is a
Speaker 2: tough pill to swallow. And do you trust Joel Embiid
Speaker 2: to be healthy enough to build a winning team around him?
Speaker 2: The answer is maybe not. He's one of the best
Speaker 2: players in the NBA. But if you look at his numbers,
Speaker 2: he's missed on average, twenty three regular season games per
Speaker 2: year during his career. That is not counting the full
Speaker 2: two seasons that he missed with his foot injury. When
Speaker 2: you miss thirty percent of the regular season every year,
Speaker 2: like just you can just like book that you can
Speaker 2: just just penned in not even pencil, you can just
Speaker 2: pen that in. Uh, And that's not even the full story.
Speaker 2: Like when Joel Embiid's not missing thirty percent of a
Speaker 2: regular season, he's also nursing injuries from missing multiple games
Speaker 2: in the regular season. So, given that he's almost thirty,
Speaker 2: he's had numerous health issues. Is there a greater or
Speaker 2: lesser chance that he's gonna miss more or less time
Speaker 2: in the future?
Speaker 3: Probably more?
Speaker 2: And then second, given the health concerns, do you think
Speaker 2: you can build a championship team around him?
Speaker 3: The answer is probably know.
Speaker 2: If you can't answer yes to both of those or
Speaker 2: either of those, then the sad and painful truth is
Speaker 2: you probably have to move on from Joel Embiid. I
Speaker 2: love empt. I think he's one of the most dominant
Speaker 2: players in the NBA. I think he could be a
Speaker 2: really great pairing for another player like I don't know,
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard. That's just me a very unbiased fans take.
Speaker 2: But in what postseason has Joel Embiid ever been healthy?
Speaker 2: Can you recall one? I'll answer for you never, literally never.
Speaker 2: When he got drafted multiple years he missed, remember just
Speaker 2: like total seasons twenty eighteen, his first playoffs, fractured orbital
Speaker 2: bone twenty nineteen, playoffs, knee injury twenty twenty, ankle injury
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, torn meniscus.
Speaker 3: This is all playoffs.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, as you remember, fractured horrible bone this
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty three playoffs sprained LCL.
Speaker 3: That is literally insane.
Speaker 2: So if he's your all NBA guy and you can't
Speaker 2: rely on him, is he the star of a championship
Speaker 2: team or is he a really really really really really
Speaker 2: good role player who can drop forty at any time. Now,
Speaker 2: with the rumors that James Harden is on his way
Speaker 2: to Houston, Doc Rivers might have coached his last game
Speaker 2: in Philly.
Speaker 3: This team is at a crossroads.
Speaker 2: It will be very fascinating to see which correction they
Speaker 2: go next. So does Jah Morant like have a gun
Speaker 2: on him like every time he walks out of the door,
Speaker 2: because that's kind of how it feels, doesn't it Like
Speaker 2: it's a it's like that that Snoop Dogg song where
Speaker 2: he's like, put oil of a lay on my skin
Speaker 2: because my skin gets pale, and like I put my
Speaker 2: doggy underwear on and then I put my jawgun on
Speaker 2: inside of myself.
Speaker 3: Like, where what is happening with John Morant?
Speaker 2: Like the reason I asked this is because every time
Speaker 2: you hear about Jahn Morant, every time he's doing something
Speaker 2: outside of a basketball court, there's a gun every time.
Speaker 2: The latest is Saturday on Instagram, I don't know, cute
Speaker 2: little Mother's Day, eve a stroll around.
Speaker 3: The block listening to NBA.
Speaker 2: Young boy and one of Jaw's friends was I on
Speaker 2: ig Live with like one hundred and thirty five people
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: Why who knows? Dumb?
Speaker 2: And so he's like doing something I don't know. He
Speaker 2: pans over to Jaw, and Jaw just just I don't know, like,
Speaker 2: does something twisty with the gun. The friend's like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: uh fuck Jaw ig Live gun bad drops the phone
Speaker 2: and somebody that was watching one of those one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty five people screenshot of that one half of
Speaker 2: a second, literally a half of a second. They showed
Speaker 2: Jaw with the gun in his hand near his head
Speaker 2: doing whatever he was doing.
Speaker 3: And now you're dead. You're done. It's a rap for you.
Speaker 3: He was on ig Live with the gun for less
Speaker 3: than a half a second.
Speaker 2: Screenshots internets spread like wildfire, and now we got it
Speaker 2: on every single ESPN, Fox, Sports, TMZ everywhere.
Speaker 3: So where are we at now?
Speaker 2: According to Woj, Jaw's expected to face a lengthy suspension,
Speaker 2: not because if there's been some legal breach like it
Speaker 2: was in Shotgun Willie's, but because it was conduct detrimental
Speaker 2: to the league, meaning, hey, Jaw, you're fucking with our money.
Speaker 2: And I think one of the most astounding things about
Speaker 2: this offseason that we're still talking about Jaw around guns.
Speaker 2: Like Remember he admitted to making some terrible mistake. Remember
Speaker 2: he said he went to counseling for two weeks to
Speaker 2: get better and like learn better coping methods, and he
Speaker 2: promised us he would never be in this situation again.
Speaker 2: And Adam Silver believed him like a schmunck and gave
Speaker 2: him this soft penalty two games suspension plus the six
Speaker 2: he had imposed on himself with that time in therapy.
Speaker 2: And Jaw said this in his interview with Jalen Rose.
Speaker 1: Been there.
Speaker 4: You were holding a gun and we both know how
Speaker 4: dangerous that can be. Who's gun were you holding? Well,
Speaker 4: the gun wasn't my. It's not who I am. I
Speaker 4: don't condone and you know, any type of violence, but
Speaker 4: I take you know full responsibility. You know from my
Speaker 4: actions made a badomsteak and I can see the image
Speaker 4: you know that I painted, you know, over myself, you know,
Speaker 4: with my recent mistakes. But you know, in the future,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna show everybody who John really is. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm about, and you know, change this narrative.
Speaker 2: And narrator says he did not change the narrative at all.
Speaker 2: I know how dangerous that can be. I don't condone violence.
Speaker 2: That that gun wasn't mine, like and that was a lie.
Speaker 2: Either Jaw has a gun on him at all times
Speaker 2: and plays with it like it's a toy. Or he
Speaker 2: has friends that just allow him to play with their guns,
Speaker 2: whether they're loaded or not loaded, and play.
Speaker 3: With their guns like toys. Either way, Uh, dumb, very
Speaker 3: very dumb, extremely dumb. Can we be.
Speaker 2: Honest about this for a second. The dumbest thing about
Speaker 2: this is that there's a lot of smoke already around
Speaker 2: Jaw at this very moment, at this very moment that
Speaker 2: we sit, he is being sued by someone, a kid,
Speaker 2: a miner, that he beat up because the kid threw
Speaker 2: a basketball at him. That's happening right now, right now.
Speaker 2: The NBA is investigating Jaw, and they have been investigating
Speaker 2: Jaw for over a year for multiple incidents surrounding a gun,
Speaker 2: multiple incidents.
Speaker 3: Surrounding a gun. His lawyers know this, his advisors know this.
Speaker 3: Jah Morant knows this.
Speaker 2: Okay, he got a light suspension. Just two months ago
Speaker 2: the NBA the All NBA list came out.
Speaker 3: I don't know what was it.
Speaker 2: Three days ago, Jahn Morant was left off the list
Speaker 2: because of this incident with a gun at Shotgun Willie's
Speaker 2: and he ends up losing out on forty million dollars And.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's heat on you, Jaw. Three days later,
Speaker 3: what do you do?
Speaker 2: You're hanging out flashing guns with dudes who call themselves
Speaker 2: double tap two double tap aka two shots to the
Speaker 2: head double tap. The guy's name on Instagram who filmed
Speaker 2: that d tap two double tap. If you can't tell
Speaker 2: that the D is for tap double, it's because he
Speaker 2: also put the two after it as well, d tap two.
Speaker 3: So now you know.
Speaker 2: So you got Jaw with his friends who are all
Speaker 2: cause playing gang bangers crips, I think, and uh, this
Speaker 2: is like the kind of dude who's used your name
Speaker 2: on call of duty is like gangster for life forever
Speaker 2: and like uses skull and crossbones emoji, like Okay, dude, yeah,
Speaker 2: we get it.
Speaker 3: You're like you kill people. Oh, very funny ha.
Speaker 2: And in doing all of this, he makes Adam Silver
Speaker 2: look like an idiot. You got the commissioner who gave
Speaker 2: you a light suspension, took you aside and said, okay, Jaw,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna give you a slap on the wrist
Speaker 2: because we want to see you in the playoffs, but like,
Speaker 2: you have to promise me you're not gonna do any
Speaker 2: of this dumb shit again. He's like, okay, I won't
Speaker 2: do any of this dumb shit again. And he does
Speaker 2: all the same dumb shit all the way again. And
Speaker 2: you know it's bad because you got real deal six
Speaker 2: O Crips going on TV and being like, yes, we
Speaker 2: don't claim him. He's not gang banger, he doesn't do
Speaker 2: any of this. He's an idiot. When you've got six
Speaker 2: O Crips being like, yeah, uh, this guy's dumb. We're
Speaker 2: we're gangbangers, and we think he's also dumb, like you're dumb.
Speaker 2: And now instead of us being like, okay, is this
Speaker 2: the year that Jaw finally wins an MVP? Is this
Speaker 2: the year that Memphis breaks over the breakthrough, we have
Speaker 2: to say, Oh, is this the year that John Rant
Speaker 2: misses an entire fucking year of basketball because he's so
Speaker 2: dumb that he can't stop playing with guns on IG
Speaker 2: live like a fifteen year old girl on Snapchat. That's
Speaker 2: that's where we're at in the conversation with Jaw. He's
Speaker 2: probably gonna lose a half a season at least, that's
Speaker 2: where we're at with Jaw. He is going to miss
Speaker 2: a half a season in the prime of his career
Speaker 2: just because he can't stop cosplaying a six to oh
Speaker 2: crip For whatever reason, he thinks that makes him cool
Speaker 2: and tough and.
Speaker 3: Like closer to the NBA young boy. So so very dumb.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be the biggest story not only of
Speaker 2: the offseason but this year's regular season two and there's
Speaker 2: only one person to blame, and he doesn't have an
Speaker 2: ig account named d tap two Alert Alert. The Phoenix
Speaker 2: Suns have fired former Coach of the Year Monty Williams
Speaker 2: less than a year after inking him to a lucrative extension.
Speaker 2: Matt Ishbia has literally wrote written Monty Williams a twenty
Speaker 2: million dollar check for him to go Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Dame Wave see you later.
Speaker 2: So some people are shocked, but I guess when you
Speaker 2: lose two closeout games by thirty in consecutive years, the
Speaker 2: rioting's probably on the wall.
Speaker 3: So my thoughts on this are as falls.
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason that Monty Williams got
Speaker 2: fired is the same reason that he won Coach of
Speaker 2: the Year, which is he can take a team from
Speaker 2: eighteen wins to the finals, can he take him to
Speaker 2: win a championship?
Speaker 3: The answer very clearly is no.
Speaker 2: He's reached a point where his ceiling was met when
Speaker 2: the rosters were good enough to win a championship. We
Speaker 2: don't know what that ceiling is for Wes Unseld Junior,
Speaker 2: because he'll never have a roster that good. But we
Speaker 2: now know that Monty Williams is not good enough as
Speaker 2: a coach to reach a championship. We have seen Monny
Speaker 2: Williams's problems in terms of in game adjustments. We see
Speaker 2: that he shortens his rotations in the playoffs to the
Speaker 2: point where it is detrimental to the team. And now
Speaker 2: it is coming out that he is rubbing players the
Speaker 2: wrong way. And if you believe that Atan is a
Speaker 2: super talent and you think he could become a cornerstone
Speaker 2: of your team moving forward, and Ayton is at a
Speaker 2: crossroads and in an in pass with Monty Williams. One of
Speaker 2: those two guys has to go. One guy is making
Speaker 2: max money for the next five years and one guy
Speaker 2: is not. So the guy that's not making max money
Speaker 2: and your new owner Ishbia, you gots to go.
Speaker 3: Second.
Speaker 2: And then you add in matt Ishbiah, who's like, I
Speaker 2: guess they said it on Twitter, and I think this
Speaker 2: is right.
Speaker 3: I think matt Is Shbia probably has main character.
Speaker 2: Syndrome where he believes he is the protagonist in every
Speaker 2: part of the life that he's living.
Speaker 3: He is the center of the universe.
Speaker 2: That's like, I don't know, it's like shocking that a
Speaker 2: billionaire would be like an egomaniac, but it is.
Speaker 3: It's possible.
Speaker 2: So Joe Si vibes I'm getting from matt Ishbia wants
Speaker 2: to make splashy trades, wants to get in to the
Speaker 2: kind of like Rob Polink a little bit like, wants
Speaker 2: to own the narrative. Wants to make a splash, not
Speaker 2: afraid to spend money because he wants the narrative to
Speaker 2: be on him. He wants Now he's running the ship.
Speaker 2: Apparently he has taken control over all basketball operations, which, like,
Speaker 2: that's never been bad before when an owner has like
Speaker 2: taken over and not delegated to people who are smarter
Speaker 2: or more invested in basketball than him. Like, but whatever,
Speaker 2: it's his team, he owns it now. So there's a
Speaker 2: lot of chatter about where Mani is gonna go next,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about that in a second. But what
Speaker 2: I think is really interesting is who matt Ishbia is
Speaker 2: going to hire next in the main character syndrome, Well,
Speaker 2: matt Ishbia from Detroit. There are a couple of names
Speaker 2: that are circulating I think would be awful.
Speaker 3: One is tom Izzo. Do you think tom Izzo.
Speaker 2: And DeAndre Aiden are gonna get along? Like if Monnie
Speaker 2: Williams didn't get along with DeAndre Aiden? I promise you
Speaker 2: a college coach who has been leading in his own
Speaker 2: like control freak kind of way is not gonna vibe
Speaker 2: with DeAndre Ayden. And then the second is maybe even worse,
Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas, the guy who ran the Knicks
Speaker 2: into the ground as a GM and head coach combo,
Speaker 2: This could get ugly fast.
Speaker 3: This could get real ugly, real fast.
Speaker 2: In terms of MANI, I think that MANI should go
Speaker 2: to a place that is like what Phoenix was when
Speaker 2: he took over in an eighteen win team like the
Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons, a team that has a bunch of young
Speaker 2: talent that needs to get a culture set. As for
Speaker 2: the Sun's next coach, like I said, they're interviewing Nick Nurse,
Speaker 2: They're interviewing Mike Budenholzer.
Speaker 3: They are a rumored to also be interested in Tyleru.
Speaker 2: I like all those names personally much more than I
Speaker 2: like Isaiah Thomas or Tom Izzo. I would personally like
Speaker 2: someone like Jordi Fernandez from the Kings, or maybe a
Speaker 2: Becky Hammond from the Las Vegas Aces.
Speaker 3: But I very very doubt.
Speaker 2: That Ishabio will hire an unknown. The bottom line is this,
Speaker 2: you now have three coaches of the Year in the
Speaker 2: past five years who are now unemployed, four if you
Speaker 2: count Dwayne Casey, two of whom have won NBA championships.
Speaker 2: All I could say, it's a cool world out there.
Speaker 2: It's a cool, cold world.
Speaker 3: Whether it turns out to be the right decision or not.
Speaker 2: All depends on what comes next. I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of of the NBA who believe that there are
Speaker 2: players out there who are playing in the NBA who
Speaker 2: are not very good. I think that there are casual
Speaker 2: fans and hardcore fans who think to themselves, I guess
Speaker 2: it possible that there are like a group, a pretty
Speaker 2: large group of players who just don't actually like the
Speaker 2: game that they're paid millions of dollars to play. And
Speaker 2: we don't really have any evidence for that. We don't
Speaker 2: have anything to substantiate our claims. Our beliefs are our
Speaker 2: anecdotal evidence of just lackadaisical complacency that we see on
Speaker 2: a night to night basis. Well, DeMar Derozen is cooking
Speaker 2: a quarter of the NBA and is substantiating the things
Speaker 2: that we have been thinking for a very long time.
Speaker 2: What did he say, brace yourself. A quarter of the
Speaker 2: players in the NBA absolutely stink. That's like one hundred players.
Speaker 2: That's literally like one hundred out of a four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty players. DeMar de Rosen has put a stamp
Speaker 2: on it. They fuck are trash, they stink, They shouldn't
Speaker 2: even be here. I cannot tell you how many times
Speaker 2: I've seen media members included myself, just get cooked by
Speaker 2: fans saying, oh, I say, oh, this player stinks, X
Speaker 2: Y or Z stinks. They are not very good, and
Speaker 2: they're like, you don't know these players are professionals.
Speaker 3: You don't know they're in the NBA.
Speaker 2: How can you say that they're elite guys or elite athletes.
Speaker 3: You're just some caring out there.
Speaker 2: No comparatively to the other guys who don't stink, these
Speaker 2: guys stink. There are guys who cannot play at an
Speaker 2: elite level, which is what we're talking about. Do not
Speaker 2: take my word for it, take Paul George and DeMar
Speaker 2: DeRozan's word for it.
Speaker 4: Do you feel about the tweet that lebron sent out
Speaker 4: Bronny was better than some current NBA guys?
Speaker 1: We do, guys, Sorry, no, cap, I'm the type of dude.
Speaker 1: I keep my opinions myself. I chill, I play the backseat.
Speaker 1: But being in the league so long, you realize how
Speaker 1: many don't love the game of basketball, who take it
Speaker 1: for granted, Who feels so entitled, who just won't everything
Speaker 1: that come with it, but don't want to put the
Speaker 1: work in. It's so frustrating, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like we played in an era where you had like
Speaker 1: earn everything. So you got so many guys coming in
Speaker 1: thinking like they just should be playing because they homeboy
Speaker 1: told them they nice, and it's like, bro, you're not good.
Speaker 1: So I definitely got Brian standpoint of that, because you'll
Speaker 1: be surprised. It's a good was it four or fifty
Speaker 1: of us, it's a good Seventy five to one hundred
Speaker 1: stinks stinks.
Speaker 2: Good dudes though, Good dudes though, but they stink like
Speaker 2: they fucking suck. I can't tell you how much I
Speaker 2: love this clip. Anytime somebody gets into my mentions and
Speaker 2: tells me that these players don't stink, I'm sending that
Speaker 2: clip right back to them.
Speaker 3: Seventy five to one hundred players in the.
Speaker 2: NBA absolutely stink at for a long time in this league.
Speaker 2: So what do you do when everybody on the floor
Speaker 2: was a number one option for most of their lives.
Speaker 2: You either adapt or you're fucking gone, or I guess
Speaker 2: you sit on the bench and throw soup at your
Speaker 2: colleagues and get dropped.
Speaker 3: Like Kevin Porter Junior.
Speaker 2: The Golden State Warriors, he would probably be one of
Speaker 2: those seventy five guys.
Speaker 3: That's just what it is. I want to smoke weed.
Speaker 2: They want to go to the club, they want to
Speaker 2: hang out, they want to get paid, and you know what,
Speaker 2: God bless them, But when it comes to playing actual basketball,
Speaker 2: they stink. And I'm gonna tell you they stink. What
Speaker 2: do you do when you get life changing money? Do
Speaker 2: you continue to grind or do you chill? That's really
Speaker 2: the deal. A lot of guys are gonna get the message.
Speaker 2: That message is eleven for twenty five from the field,
Speaker 2: and a plus minus of negative eighteen is not going
Speaker 2: to get you to the place at the table for
Speaker 2: a long line for a long time in this league.
Speaker 2: So what do you do when everybody on the floor
Speaker 2: was a number one option for most of their lives.
Speaker 2: You either adapt or you're fucking gone, or I guess
Speaker 2: you sit on the bench and throw soup at your
Speaker 2: colleagues then get dropped like Kevin Porter Jr. So I've
Speaker 2: thought this a lot about the NBA because it's kind
Speaker 2: of like a little office setting. You know, you got
Speaker 2: guys all put together, they didn't ask to be with
Speaker 2: one another, a lot of different personalities, a lot of
Speaker 2: different types of play. You've got coaches that come and go,
Speaker 2: They've got different systems that they want to run.
Speaker 3: Some of those systems.
Speaker 2: Deprioritize you and prioritize others, other guys. You get traded
Speaker 2: and they come to your team, they change the dynamics.
Speaker 3: So what do you do?
Speaker 2: How do you try to fix things when they go sideways?
Speaker 2: And I think that's a question the teams probably have
Speaker 2: been asking for years, and I have been asking it
Speaker 2: very specifically about how does anybody patch things up with
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert? How does anybody patch things up when this
Speaker 2: is a player that like is universally disliked. Oftentimes, over
Speaker 2: and over again, there's infighting. Nobody tells each other what
Speaker 2: the problem is. They get blown up, they start again,
Speaker 2: they don't communicate. Things go bad. Guys get traded, they
Speaker 2: blow it up again. They fire the coach again, They
Speaker 2: trade a.
Speaker 3: Player again, over and over and over.
Speaker 2: Until they just have no picks, no capital, and a
Speaker 2: bunch of fucking desimal results.
Speaker 3: That's like the Charlotte Hornets.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking about right now. So the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Timberwolves face that same issue right in the offseason. They
Speaker 2: lost in five to the Nuggets, and the difference between
Speaker 2: the Wolves and the team like the Sixers, as they've
Speaker 2: got a star, a transcendent star, Aunt Edwards, who is
Speaker 2: willing to put in the work, Aunt Edwards, who has
Speaker 2: relentless I strive to be as relentlessly positive as Aunt Edwards.
Speaker 2: He's twenty one years old and he is maybe the
Speaker 2: greatest dude in the league. He might save this franchise
Speaker 2: from themselves, as he could potentially save this franchise from
Speaker 2: maybe the worst trade in NBA history. Of course, I'm
Speaker 2: talking about Rudy Gobert, Like I said, universally disliked, came
Speaker 2: to this team, universally disliked, punched his own teammate in
Speaker 2: the playoffs to the point where that other player is
Speaker 2: now gonna maybe leave the team. And instead of Aunt
Speaker 2: Edwards being like, yeah, we agree, this guy fucking sucks,
Speaker 2: terrible trade, we gotta move him, or whatever the case
Speaker 2: might be, he decides what's he gonna do. He is
Speaker 2: going to fix things with Rudy Gobert. He's gonna patch
Speaker 2: things up mentor Rudy Gobert. He is going to get
Speaker 2: their relationship as tight as it can be. It may
Speaker 2: seem like a tall order, Rudy is notoriously surly, but
Speaker 2: if anyone can do it, it is Aunt Edwards, the
Speaker 2: twenty one year old player. Mind you, Rudy Gobert is thirty,
Speaker 2: so that mentorship relationship is already fucking wild. So, according
Speaker 2: to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Aunt Edwards is headed to
Speaker 2: France this off season just to train all summer with
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert all summer.
Speaker 3: Yes, you read that right. According to Wolves Beat.
Speaker 2: Writer Chris Hine, Aunt Edwards is planning on heading to
Speaker 2: France to work with Gobert. From the outside, Edwards and
Speaker 2: Gobert didn't always seem to be on the same page.
Speaker 2: Edward always seemed reluctant to pass when working with him
Speaker 2: with the screen and roll game, and Edward says that
Speaker 2: wasn't the case.
Speaker 3: I am stunned.
Speaker 2: I thought that there would be no way that this
Speaker 2: trade could get salvage, but holy moly, Aunt said this.
Speaker 2: I love Rudy. ME and Rudy got a great understanding.
Speaker 2: We talk all the time. I think he can get
Speaker 2: a lot better as far as catching the ball, jump hooking,
Speaker 2: and I tell him all the time, like Rudy, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna throw you the ball every time I want you
Speaker 2: to jump hook or money dunk on someone and he's like,
Speaker 2: I got you. So this summer we're gonna get together
Speaker 2: to work on it in France. He's gonna go to
Speaker 2: Aunt Edwards in France. I need this reality show. I
Speaker 2: need it, Not like, hey, Rudy, you French fuck, you've
Speaker 2: ruined our team. You come to my city and you
Speaker 2: train with me. No more begets for you, bitch. You're
Speaker 2: coming to me. No, no, no, He's like courssesant Bojiu,
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you, Rudy Avoa. Like if anybody can
Speaker 2: make Rudy Gobert likable, it's Aunt Edwards.
Speaker 3: And you know who.
Speaker 2: Aunt Edwards never said anything like this about never heaped
Speaker 2: praise on, never went and traded with him in the
Speaker 2: off season, never said how much he likes him Carl
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. This is just further evidence that Carl Anthony
Speaker 2: Towns probably is on his way out because this team
Speaker 2: cannot work with two seven footers, gotta choose one.
Speaker 3: One can't defend one who can't score.
Speaker 2: There's a reason that the rumor mill is full of
Speaker 2: the talk about Carl Anthony Towns to the Knicks, involving
Speaker 2: either R. J. Barrett or Julius Randall. Aunt is gonna
Speaker 2: be first team All NBA. He is the stake and
Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Towns also has main character syndrome, so he
Speaker 2: might be on his way out. And Aunt Edwards is
Speaker 2: going to fully salvage the Rudy go Beart trade and
Speaker 2: maybe even Rudy Gobert's career as a result. If you
Speaker 2: are a Wolves fan, Aunt Edwards croissant like that is
Speaker 2: the best news that you could possibly ever get.
Speaker 3: All right. Finally, a quick note on our dubs.
Speaker 2: First and foremost, they need to figure out what's going
Speaker 2: on with Bob Myers. The rumors around Bob Myers is
Speaker 2: that he's getting twenty million dollars offer a year to
Speaker 2: go to a venture capital firm. He might just leave
Speaker 2: the NBA altogether in order for him to stay with
Speaker 2: the Warriors. It's going to take a huge bag. So's
Speaker 2: that's point number one, which I have no updates on.
Speaker 2: I do have an update though, on the Big Three
Speaker 2: and whether they're going to continue with the pool party thing.
Speaker 2: I wanted to illustrate something before the season started that
Speaker 2: I said. It was in the immediate aftermath when Draymond
Speaker 2: Green turned Jordan Poole into Glass show from Mike Tyson's
Speaker 2: knockout that I said this here on the show. The
Speaker 2: Warriors are in turmoil and how a lot of things
Speaker 2: progress in Golden State will revolve around whether they can
Speaker 2: put this behind them. It turns out they did not
Speaker 2: put that behind them. And now we don't just have
Speaker 2: anecdotal evidence, we have early reports out of the Warriors
Speaker 2: camp is that no are dubs.
Speaker 3: Our dubs did not put this behind them.
Speaker 2: According to ESPN's Ramona Shelbourne, she interviewed a ton of
Speaker 2: Warriors staff and a ton of Warriors players and this
Speaker 2: is what she had to say. Tension between veterans and
Speaker 2: younger players on Warriors never went away after Draymond Green's punch.
Speaker 2: Draymond Green's punch didn't just knock out Jordan Poole. It
Speaker 2: laid bare the tension between the older Championship corps and
Speaker 2: the younger players on the organization hoped would supersede them
Speaker 2: one day.
Speaker 3: It has never gone.
Speaker 2: Away, despite Pool's relative silence on the matter this season.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, it turns out hiring a whole new
Speaker 2: staff to replace the current staff and actually branding it
Speaker 2: with a name called two timelines, implying that one timeline
Speaker 2: would eventually be laid out to pasture. Probably not great.
Speaker 2: And in the second timeline, thing that think that they're
Speaker 2: the second coming of some sort of dynasty, probably also
Speaker 2: not great. We've heard grumblings from Pool and Kaminga about
Speaker 2: playing time. Kaminga is said to be so angry that
Speaker 2: he thinks he's going to be traded if he doesn't
Speaker 2: get a full time role next season. You've got Clay
Speaker 2: that ends up affecting him or Clay now is putting
Speaker 2: his foot down and he's saying, well, fuck it. If
Speaker 2: you're gonna give Jordan Pool thirty million, you better give
Speaker 2: me forty million.
Speaker 3: And that's just not gonna happen either.
Speaker 2: So now there's even more traction to a Jordan Poole
Speaker 2: trade on the horizon, most recently as part of a
Speaker 2: package to Toronto for Ogn Andobi. Don't hate that, just
Speaker 2: like Ognnobi and Andrew Wiggins together, Woo Pool has been
Speaker 2: somehow not silent anymore, even though he's been ducking the
Speaker 2: media up until now. He has not said really anything
Speaker 2: substantive about the punch, but he did say this to
Speaker 2: the ringer when they were asking him about his relationship
Speaker 2: with Draymond. It pretty much says everything that you need
Speaker 2: to know. We said we were just on the court teammates.
Speaker 2: It's just been business. Oh boy, doesn't sound like they've
Speaker 2: ever patched things up or ever will patch things up.
Speaker 2: This season is going to be written about. There's going
Speaker 2: to be a documentary about the death of the of
Speaker 2: our Dubs. The death of our Dubs, call it that
Speaker 2: right now. And the main storyline is gonna be the
Speaker 2: punch that took them down, the one punch heard all
Speaker 2: around the world. But whether Draymond, Cole Cocky and Jordan
Speaker 2: Poole actually ended the Dubs dynasty itself, that remains to
Speaker 2: be seen.
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