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Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo, Welcome to us up that podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your active and attractive hoses for another episode of

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Speaker 1: the fastest growing podcast Man.

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Speaker 1: The vibes is how I want to thank everybody is

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Speaker 3: We got a lot to talk about this week.

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Speaker 1: I think I want to start with the Complex list,

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Speaker 1: but those of you who are unaware Complex drop the

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Speaker 1: list and I believe they were trying to highlight power rankings.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna delve into the list and see what

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Speaker 1: we can get from it. Right now, if you're listening

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Speaker 1: That's where you find the vibes. That's where we at.

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and the vibes is how they are. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want to say this, I just interview Mall from

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Speaker 1: the New Rory and all podcasts go see that episode.

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Speaker 1: It's on Patreon, the full episode and it's on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: I think a twenty minute excert I got out right

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Speaker 1: to Patreon. Man, but it's so much to talk about today, Man,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to get into. Man, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good show. It's gonna be a good show.

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Speaker 1: And I want to start with the complex thing, as

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Speaker 1: I stated earlier, but before I get into that, just

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Speaker 1: because it's something that's on my mind. And I was

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Speaker 1: having a conversation with one of my friends about love

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Speaker 1: and like holding on too long, right, and things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. When I was talking to my homeboy, I

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Speaker 1: was telling him, oftentimes we get comfortable, and then if

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Speaker 1: willing to compromise on because we know it'll take a

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Speaker 1: while for us to get back to that spot. But

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Speaker 1: I want people to know that just because love fails once,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that it's gonna constantly fail. And so

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Speaker 1: I was letting him know, right because we were just

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Speaker 1: talking about how we kind of found out people loved

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Speaker 1: us or didn't love us. For me, it's the dog times, right,

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Speaker 1: it's the times where I really need somebody, like for me.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I get sick over the last couple of years, man,

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Speaker 1: and that is revealed to me so much about the

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Speaker 1: individuals that I have poured into. There's two things that,

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Speaker 1: And two is pouring into somebody who's not interested in

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Speaker 1: pouring into you. They're more interested in just taking from

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Speaker 1: think it's a sport out there nowadays to see what

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Speaker 1: And so I was letting him know, like I was

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Speaker 1: although it was something that the individual would do, I

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Speaker 1: But I want you to understand that the pride tells

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Speaker 1: this for me, that means you're gonna do this until

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Speaker 1: you until it don't need to be done. But if

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Speaker 1: that's gonna shine through even though you are complete the

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Speaker 1: the people that can affect the outcome. That's just how

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Speaker 1: I get out. I'm not sure if anybody look at

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Speaker 1: And I also tell dudes, anytime you find yourself where

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Speaker 1: that relationship is over because worth is to be identified

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Speaker 1: And so if I ever got to sit you down

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Speaker 1: this as a you, and I already lost that fight.

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Speaker 1: Number one comparison is the thief for joy. And that's

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Speaker 1: another reason that I don't enjoy individuals doing the whole

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Speaker 1: saide Like, come on, man, a lot of yous chasing

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Speaker 3: Right, You done?

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Speaker 1: You done forgot about when I put the trap down

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Speaker 1: You done, You done forgot all that. You think the

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Speaker 1: what we get into the meat potatoes are because we

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Speaker 1: Like y'all might have had the same dudes, but y'all

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Speaker 1: had them different ways. Paid all her bills, that Nigga

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Speaker 1: Nigga wouldn't get you a tiffiny bracelet. And so y'all

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Speaker 3: Man. You know, I really didn't want to like.

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Speaker 1: This shit is embarrassing, and Complex has a list like

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Speaker 1: Like it's just to me. I'm like, yo, what in

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Speaker 1: the fuck are they doing? They calling it power rankings,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into all of that, Like it's

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Speaker 1: a complete contradiction. What is power? What is powerful? It's

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Speaker 1: lot of controversy about this list. Lord, nos, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: and hey, you come back looking like Vince McMahon. I

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Speaker 1: come back looking like Vince McMahon. You sen Vince mcmah,

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Speaker 3: So again, Complex drops this list.

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be hip hop's top media ranking power

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Speaker 1: ranking list. Let's take a look at the list and

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Speaker 1: talk through all right, So we see some of the

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Speaker 1: individuals on here shout shout out Charlemagne. We see Flex,

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Speaker 1: We see Kresha, shout out Karresha. You see ad Casanet,

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Speaker 1: And so they just continue to speak. Over the past decade, however,

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Speaker 3: All right, this is the point.

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Speaker 1: This is the point. We want to focus on. What

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Speaker 1: constitutes power in hip hop media. The power to book

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Speaker 1: the biggest players in rap. Y'all pay attention to this.

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Speaker 1: The power to book the biggest players in rap and

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Speaker 1: extract meaningful dialogue from them one or to make a

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Speaker 1: pilling content out of unknown emerging talent or forgotten has

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Speaker 1: been the power to make news simply by expressing your

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Speaker 1: of the music industry so much so that your words

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Speaker 3: And lastly, the power.

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Speaker 1: To turn your passion for hip hop and content into

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Speaker 3: All right, so now we get into the list.

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Speaker 1: We got Jazzy Jazz World TV four hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: a thousand, She's been next to j Cole, jy Z,

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar, little Baby again. People give her like it

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Speaker 1: seems like us as a culture we're trying to put

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Speaker 1: her in position. Shout out jazz in one of the

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Speaker 1: up and comings that I really can appreciate. Shoutout knowledge.

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Speaker 1: She's part of the Charlemagne, the God family. As you

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Speaker 1: see she's on this list. I want to speak to power.

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Speaker 1: This is the first indication of power on this list

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Speaker 1: with the beautiful Nihledge Simone, right, because what you see

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Speaker 1: with her circumstance is how powerful her homie is. Right,

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Speaker 1: you see how powerful Charlemagne is to where she's now

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Speaker 1: Shout out Adam, Big Boy eighteen, La Jinks Jink's formally

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Speaker 1: But he don't want to be no rap hip hop guy.

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Speaker 1: He don't even embrace that. He don't embrace that. Why

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Speaker 3: They may be famous, may not. What I'm saying is.

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Speaker 1: y'all come. And so while people are dedicating their lives

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Speaker 1: So again, my first issue was with Casinet, and not

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Speaker 1: So number four, I don't see an issue with that.

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Speaker 1: This is the problem right here. Number three and I

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Speaker 1: Watch Charlemagne be number three. When we talk about creating jobs,

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Speaker 1: no hard feelings, right, I don't have hard feelings for y'all.

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Speaker 3: But he was number one on the list.

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Speaker 1: But let's focus on these top three it's Joe Budden, Academics, Charlemagne.

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Speaker 1: When you look at Joe, nobody and the you that

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Speaker 3: To me, that says everything.

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Speaker 1: Your ability to keep the team in a winning position

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Speaker 1: And I hope people don't take these things? Is Loan

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Speaker 1: How how when Coach K want to talk, he probably

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Speaker 1: And when Meek Mia want to come out. He gonna

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00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: sit ask these guys when money Bag come out here,

432
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: gonna sit with the homie. I want you all to

433
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: help me understand this. And they not sitting with me

434
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: because they got a popping Instagram. They sitting with me

435
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: because it's like, Yo, bro had real conversations, let's go

436
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: pop some shit. And that means nothing to complex because

437
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: they are not a part of the culture. From that aspect,

438
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I will say this about act though he ken't be

439
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: real and said I believe Charlemagne should be number one

440
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: just because of the business. Joe's this guy, so he gonna,

441
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: you know, kind of stick with Joe as much as

442
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: he can. I think Joe on air talent is amazing.

443
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: I think on air talent he does a great job.

444
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm actually seeing him as a businessman these last year,

445
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, the last year I've seen him that way.

446
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: But when you look at Charlemagne and the reason I

447
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: speak to the air between them, Charlemagne been doing this

448
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: shit ten years, like just.

449
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: Literally putting people in position.

450
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: Look when I talk to Wallow, I'm gonna tell you

451
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 1: let y'all in on this, because Wallow them, you know,

452
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: the big home is in the game.

453
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: They really want to see me win.

454
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: Like, so Wallow be giving me information that amazes me,

455
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: right because it's like, I know he's somebody that come

456
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: from where I come from, and he's like, I'm trying

457
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: to hip you. Get up, you know, don't get tricked

458
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: at your position. Don't let him do you like this,

459
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: Like he give me the real game. And so Charlemagne

460
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: is somebody that really sit me down and show me

461
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: the game. See, when somebody give you the game, you

462
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: still gotta go figure out how to execute that. But

463
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: when somebody show you the game, they show you how

464
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: to execute the game that you was given. And when

465
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: we deal with media and you say, damn, he been

466
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: getting money like this for a long time, you get

467
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: to say that's the air between them. And if I'm

468
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: being completely honest, I'm gonna say that the list gotta

469
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: be rolled out for something. He gotta have some business

470
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: with them over there, something happening, And he know about

471
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: this a while. You know, I've heard I heard it

472
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: mention I didn't connect the dots, but I've heard it

473
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: mentioned that that something like this was coming and he

474
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be number one. Now, hey, look you got

475
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: number one. Shout out to Joe Budden forgetting number one,

476
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: But you're a little too happy to be a rich nigga.

477
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: I'm starting not to believe a lot I'm hearing in

478
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: this game, and I don't know how to feel. But

479
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: number one on a complex list that does nothing. It

480
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: means nothing. That they got consanett on who don't want

481
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: to be a hip hop guy. They got a dude

482
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: named Anthony on that fatiques music, he don't book, nobody

483
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: who on that has good conversations.

484
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: They seem to be ten and under.

485
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: A list, and show me the faces of the people

486
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: done the list, Mike, Let's make that a rule. If

487
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: you put a list out, put the people out that

488
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: spoke on it. We won't to see if we can

489
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: take their opinion for anything we even say, if we'll

490
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: even take a restaurant suggestion from them.

491
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: Right, we don't just take everybody opinions.

492
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: So who do y'all got making these little lists saying

493
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: this and that this shit is next to nothing, especially.

494
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: Since Loon ain't on it.

495
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: With all lot of them done, now let's get to

496
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: the important part of this again, focusing on the top three.

497
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna head on the top to Joe Budden

498
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: and Charlemagne. Charlomagne does not answer Joe, butden Charlamagne don't

499
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: give a fuck about Joe Budden, and Joe Budden continues

500
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: to say something about Charlomagn ain't.

501
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: But guess what.

502
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Guess what you guys, We finla bring Michael Jordan back

503
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: out on the court. We're finna bring Michael Jordan back

504
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: out on the court. Were finna bring Jordan A bring

505
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: the cigar, bring the Jordan wars. Come on out here

506
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: for a couple of these pickup games. I think they

507
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: done forgot why they gave you the MVP home and

508
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: they banking on the fact that he won't respond to him,

509
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: so they have fun with his name out there. You know,

510
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: but we talk about who making millions of dollars for real?

511
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: Document it not that we got a guess and.

512
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Oh, maybe he's making a boat load of money off Patreon. Whoa,

513
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: maybe he's smoking it. Now this is verifiable income.

514
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this part of Joe speaking

515
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: about him being number one on the list.

516
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: I find this interesting. Peltons y'all known.

517
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: Number one as long as I'm here are also known

518
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: as only been body and ship ever since I first

519
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: survived your stop fucking up with a gun shot an

520
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: issue of these niggas, anybody we all here, couldn't have

521
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: done it without my guys. Well I could have. Could

522
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: I could have, But it's more fun with you guys.

523
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: It's more fun with y'all.

524
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 4: What's up?

525
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: Man? All right? I'm right, Yeah, that's what I said.

526
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: I could have done it without there trying to be

527
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: sentimental with you, like like, well, I didn't now what

528
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: number one? What's good?

529
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: What happened?

530
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Salute? Don't feel leading the pack man? It feels integrity?

531
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 5: And what else was it impactides?

532
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Listen, Honestly, it felt really good at first. It felt

533
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: really good at first, but then it dawned on me

534
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: as the congratulations calls and text started coming in that

535
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: people thought that the world had changed, but everything is

536
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: the same.

537
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Nothing changed.

538
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: And then I got angered because why they thought that something?

539
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: I've been number one, So that I got mad that

540
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: there were people that thought that I wasn't number because

541
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: who the fuck y'all thought was number one? And then

542
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 2: the mother niggas that was on the list, like they

543
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: got the fast swipe, they ain't even see you niggas

544
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: sixteen fifteen thirteen. You mumbo jumbled up in there? What

545
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: what happened? Salute man? That's we salute. We're saluted for

546
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: the day. Saluting for the day. I put my whole

547
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: thumb in Charlemagne face. Get up, nigga, moved out my way.

548
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: Let me get to the top. Hey, where the fuck

549
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: did you think it would be?

550
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: You go to the talking well?

551
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, again mentioned in Charlemagne right, So we pay attention

552
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: to that because I know that there's a rival that

553
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: he believes to be there. So you see Joe Budden celebrating.

554
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: He feels good about being number one of a ghost list.

555
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Interesting behavior behave. If I was number one, I'd probably

556
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: be talking and popping my shit. But I identify the

557
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: difference between me and Joe Budden amongst this whole conversation.

558
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: And you know what that difference was.

559
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: If I had been sitting there and they made me

560
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: number one of all power rank and power being the

561
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: operative word power ranking lists, and I got six co

562
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: hosts and nobody made the list. That's a failure to me, Like,

563
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell, hey, yo, none of my

564
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: guys on there when we've been kicking it like this,

565
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: and they've been right. It's like, do you even consider

566
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: the contribution of your guys? And I know it ain't

567
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: your list. I'm just saying to be a celebrating like

568
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: that next to five other guys that didn't make the list,

569
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: that's all in the same industry and the same they.

570
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: All do what you do.

571
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: And if you that great, while we ain't, why ain't

572
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: no crumbs fell on our table? I couldn't have been

573
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: number thirty, number twenty two. And then you gotta come

574
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: pop yo, Joe Is. I'm gonna keep it gayster. Whatever

575
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: he's able to do, he's doing it well because I

576
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: even heard then with Ice Win and told him, now,

577
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: you could have done it by yourself, Like that's dangerous

578
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: rhetoric for someone like Joe in my opinion. And I

579
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: don't know Joe, but I'm just speaking about you know

580
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: what I think I've gathered over the years of just

581
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: watching it. You'll make him forget that he was lost,

582
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: he didn't know what to do when he called Ishan nice.

583
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: You'll make him forget that with that you could have

584
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: done it by yourself? Talkt He already ain't considering enough

585
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: to say Look, if I'm gonna be number one and

586
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: come do the interview and do all of this right here, y'all,

587
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: at least gotta have one of my guys on them.

588
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: He could have leveraged that. But celebrating number one with

589
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: none of you guys on the list at all that

590
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: sit there and talk and it's putting as much work

591
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: as you have because Joe ain't done nothing over the

592
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: last couple of years except the podcast. There's no more

593
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: love and hip hops. He can use that on Roal Rimon. Hey,

594
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing everything outside of here to revote to this.

595
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: The dad da da da da da da da da

596
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: da dada.

597
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: Now it's like everything's here.

598
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: So if this podcast is so great and I'm so powerful,

599
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: why none of my guys ain't on this list? Like

600
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I would have leveraged that if it was me. So

601
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: when the list came out, Charlemagne was out the country.

602
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: So Charlemagne was like, I don't know someone on vacation,

603
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: and so he ain't reacting none of it.

604
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: But a couple of people came out and said, oh

605
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: power ringing.

606
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Charlemagne ain't one that don't make sense right, and it

607
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: ain't no dick pulling a cock buff and it's like,

608
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: who that made mellionaires in the space? You know how

609
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: long it took before they had to say that Q

610
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: see the record label was something they tried their best

611
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: to act like, I don't know, I don't really know

612
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: to its undeniable. Certain things undeniable. So Djenvy came out

613
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: and Djenvy tweeted this. Djmvy posted this, y'all do know

614
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: that Complex list is bullshit?

615
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Let's be honest.

616
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: What's bigger than the breakfast club or the fact that

617
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Charlotte owns a podcast company with a bunch of successful podcasts,

618
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: his late night show and the fact that he is

619
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: to go to Kai for every other show. I guess

620
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: these lists are like assholes. Everybody has one. And again

621
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: he just spoke to some of the accolades and trying

622
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: to put this picture in a frame. It's like, yim,

623
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: y'all got a power ranking. That's why I believe it

624
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: has to be business. On the other side, something is

625
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: coming with Joe in complex or something, because how can

626
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: he be number one in a power ranking list? Now

627
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: we go talent or if we go something else like,

628
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: but power ranking. I didn't see it Joe Budden responded,

629
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: this is what he said when.

630
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: This man was in somewhere hurt, crying, bulled up in

631
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: the corner.

632
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: He said, y'all do know that complex list? It's bullshit.

633
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: Dot dot dot. Let's be honest. I mean, dot dot dot.

634
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 5: What's bigger than breakfast club, am man things? Or the

635
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: fact that Charlotte owns owns a podcast company with a bunch.

636
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: Of successful podcasts. I have to stop that line too.

637
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: Why I thought he does own that? So what does

638
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: he doesn't own?

639
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

640
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: All right, let me let me address this before we

641
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: move any further. Charlemagne owns fifty one percent of Black Effect.

642
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: That is ownership. That is the final decision. It's the

643
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: final say, that's majority ownership. None of these big companies

644
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: are owned by one person. And so Joe Budden, I think,

645
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: is trying to allude to that he doesn't own one

646
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: hundred percent, so he doesn't own it. And it's like,

647
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: you can't be pushing that on our children. You can't

648
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: be pushing that on our market to make them believe

649
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: that doing a partnership, it's detrimental to your ownership when

650
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: everything is percentages.

651
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Pay attention so he said, I don't know Charlemagne for

652
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: to ask you should be at that line.

653
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: How did that's hate? Don't throw my phone, bro.

654
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: He also added his late night show and the fact

655
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 5: that he is the go to guy for every other

656
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 5: show dot dot hest.

657
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: He to go together.

658
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: Put my comments back on the screen. Dog, I don't

659
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: want to hear what Flip talking about.

660
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: I guess these listening like assholes.

661
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: Everyone has one.

662
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: My main thing is this. Here's the thing. I can

663
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: see the hate. I can see it. I understand it.

664
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: A slight at the homie, at my brother Joe Budden because.

665
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: Joe let me say this too. I don't know.

666
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of torn in between how Flip seems to

667
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: try to act like a body going for joke. Have

668
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: to come out, Yo, light so on me, y'all taking

669
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: shots at my man? It's like, Yo, what is he doing?

670
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Like?

671
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: Do we know how that look? Do we know how

672
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: people like bro that ain't straight?

673
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: Bro?

674
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: That man grown the hell? Here you come?

675
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Keep trying to like somebody scared of you. I seen

676
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: him do it on the text stone thing. Now if

677
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: text get out that, you ain't gonna have that energy.

678
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I know what nigga ain't gonna have that energy, cause

679
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: a nigga ain't really cut like that. I'm talking about aggressively.

680
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: Like and when I say you ain't gonna have that energy,

681
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: y'all gon on to talk. And it's like, I guess

682
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: that's how y'all communicate up north with that brash like

683
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't like certain words

684
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: down He'll make a nigga pull his poll out, you know,

685
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Sometimes when I hear y'all be

686
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: communicators like them them like wait, threats?

687
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: How he hold on? Hold on?

688
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: I got him because I turn up on this and

689
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: it's like, yooa, who is that dude?

690
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: And do we gotta know?

691
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Like is he really cut like that? He's scaring people?

692
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: Is he cut like that? While you gotta do make

693
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: a few phone calls? Make a few phone calls, man,

694
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: But I really don't appreciate that. I look at that, like, damn, bro,

695
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: you need to put your cape down sometimes, man. But

696
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: what he's doing is he's doing that in public so

697
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: he can use that in private. See he probably pulling

698
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Joe to the side of private.

699
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: Man.

700
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting it all on the land for you man

701
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: now mentioning in my relationship, don't nobody mess with me

702
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: no more?

703
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: Man?

704
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: And he using that. I see the game he playing

705
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: jump out and public going against people and then going private. Man,

706
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm with you, bro, like pay attention man envy.

707
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 4: That's hate.

708
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh but you look at that.

709
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 4: That's disgusting. That what we don't we don't do that

710
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: with from queens. I don't need you do that and

711
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: don't you can that's hate. But if you're not gonna talk,

712
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: you gotta hold me down on this one. That's hey,

713
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: do you really feel us a shot at you?

714
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Though? Well you're now what Jolemy, have you.

715
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: Ever had issues with enything? Because that's why I invited

716
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: him up here.

717
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: Somebody called I don't have any issues with anybody.

718
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: Stop doing that.

719
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: It's true. You don't find out that there's an issue

720
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: until somebody lets it be known as an issue. And

721
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: with me, they don't really let me be known this issue.

722
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: They play cool.

723
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: We called them, we spoke to him, and.

724
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: They play cool because I'm number one, so they got

725
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: to they have a choice. It's like a friend by force.

726
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 4: Well, obviously he don't want to be his friend because

727
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: he just.

728
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't even talking about NBS, my man. I was

729
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: talking about wait.

730
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: Wait, wait what because he has I'm saying, we come

731
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: back from block.

732
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: From why. I need to hear him say what he

733
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: said for me to acknowledge it. I need to hear.

734
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: I need to Yeah, I need to hear. Maybe he

735
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: has a well thought out opinion that, as my man,

736
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: I can respect and understand. Maybe, like I don't just

737
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: write it off.

738
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: All right, he gave you that opinion, Joe Budden.

739
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: He told you the man got a podcast, network, breakfast

740
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: club as hot as ever, and he got a late

741
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: night show.

742
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: All these are paid gigs.

743
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: All these gigs are performing in which they need to perform.

744
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: I know that he's gonna try to hang up on

745
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: the show on the late night show. That's new. That's

746
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: a new show, right, So he's gonna try to hang

747
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: up on that. But let's stick to let's stick to

748
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: the reality of things. Let's stick to what's been able

749
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: to get accomplished from someone who started with nothing but

750
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: an audio IP. The same with a podcast, of course,

751
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: granted it's in radio. It's a little different, the pathways

752
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: a little different. But there's plenty of people that's in

753
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: radio that didn't do what that guy was able to do.

754
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: There's been plenty before him that's not been able to

755
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: do and capitalize on being on the air five times

756
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: a week like those individuals, and I don't want to

757
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: continue to separate them. Shot out to Envy. I noticed

758
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: they they want to leave Envy off list. Shot out

759
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: to Envy two, right, But again I felt like Joe

760
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: Budden was a little too celebratory for none of his

761
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: guys to make the list and him be a power

762
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: ranking guy. They had somebody from Charlemagne Nihla on them

763
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: and say, Yo, she's Charlemagne Protege. That's enough to be here. Yeah,

764
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Charlemagne Protege A that right there, that's enough.

765
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: And issues my guy. I got a lot of.

766
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: Respect for Ish, and I'm sure Ish money was high

767
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: for we got there.

768
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: This is one of them business guys.

769
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't talk to Ish about, you know, millions of

770
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: dollars of properties and things of that nature. So I

771
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: know Ish is one of those guys. Joe Budden is

772
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: doing pretty well, but I don't know about everybody else

773
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Joe butden Rich, but it's probably rich rest of them,

774
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Nigga probably doing fairly well halfway decent. I on Payday,

775
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so when he go to

776
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: talking money about people not buying T shirts and things

777
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: like that, I find it to be irresponsible.

778
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: This shit don't mean nothing. None of this.

779
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: Shit, this jeary clothes, none of this shit mean nothing.

780
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: Why would a nigga put so much into that. Man,

781
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: We've been putting this shit on since high school, Nigga.

782
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: Mamas and shit made sure we had this shit on

783
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: in preschool.

784
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Nigga.

785
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: We've been putting this shit on. So now I ain't

786
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: fnna look at no man and say your shirt ain't

787
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: good or something like that. That's a wild thing. So

788
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: again that's just me going over the complex list. I

789
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: truly believe that they don't have their posts their thing

790
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: on the post of coach. I think that they got

791
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: it wrong. I appreciate the effort, you know. I appreciate

792
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the attempt, you know, but I believe that they got

793
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: it wrong. And so we'll move on. And so when

794
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: closing on this complex list, right, I want to talk

795
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: about one more part and then we'll move on. And

796
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on It's gonna be

797
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: a short part today because I haven't been feeling well

798
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: and we're kind of running behind. So small episode will

799
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: drop right, and also you'll be able to hear this

800
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: episode this week as well. But when you deal with

801
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: the power ranking side of it, even with someone like Academics,

802
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: we'll get in the next week because he just signed

803
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: the deal, would rumble. I called last week that a

804
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Spotify deal was over right, And in short, I'll give

805
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: you a little bit of my talking points here. DJ

806
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Academics is performing in podcasting almost worse than anyone in

807
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: the space considering.

808
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: His audience.

809
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not even speaking about numbers. I'm just speaking

810
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: about content. Me Loan, I just don't enjoy the show, right.

811
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: You hear me be critical, Joe. I'm critical of the game.

812
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm critical of Noorri, I'm critical of Wallow Whoever, I'm

813
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: critical of the game, right, And so it's just business

814
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: practices that I try to hone in on and see

815
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. But I'm gonna tell you all of

816
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: those guys shows like I enjoy everybody's show. I enjoyed.

817
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Academics still hasn't found itself. Granted he's not been doing

818
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: it that long. For as podcasting interviewing. So, I mean,

819
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a learning curve there, but him come

820
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: out swinging with a pay attention. Now he came out

821
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: with Spotify, he was supposed to drop two or three

822
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: episodes a week fresh off. This is letting me know

823
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: that their negotiation is asking for a lot of money

824
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: and they're trying to compensate. Trying to explain some of

825
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: the value in the contract right to Spotify, was saying, way,

826
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: you give him this amount of money, but he'll give

827
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: you three a week. And if you noticed, over the

828
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: last maybe six eight months, he might not even give

829
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: you one a week. He may give you one a week,

830
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: he may be gone for eight days or something. And

831
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: so again me being a student of the game, and

832
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: I talked this game shit with y'all because I know

833
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there really want to know

834
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: what's going on, and I'm trying to help people understand.

835
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: As I gain understanding, See that's what that would separate

836
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: the real from the fate. As I get understanding, I

837
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: give understanding. One hand watched the other both watch the

838
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: face I come from a spot man, Well, we had

839
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: to collaborate, had to be a glowy mob collaboration for

840
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: us to be able to even survive. Say, man, we

841
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: ain't got no sugar. We got kool aid, y'all got

842
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: some sugar. We ain't got no flour. We got chicken, though,

843
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: y'all got some flour. Overel right, we got cheese and right.

844
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: We learn how to collaborate at such a young age.

845
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: And so as I gain information, I continue to try

846
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: to give information. I'm nothing like these guys bro right

847
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: now what I'm not gonna be able to do. And

848
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I want to set this expectation on the forefront of

849
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: my journey, right because I know dudes have misqualified me

850
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: and start to expect things from me, then I ain't

851
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: willing to give.

852
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: So let me say this.

853
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: If you can't get the game out of what I'm giving,

854
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: I can't give you no game. I'm out here talking

855
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: more than any of these guys about the business practices,

856
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: about podcasting, content, creation, equity, all these things and revenue.

857
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: This breaking all let down.

858
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: And if you can't get nothing from that homing, I

859
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: can't give you nothing. It's too many people to worry

860
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: about for me to have to deal with individual people. Man,

861
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: I gotta clean, I gotta I gotta I got a

862
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: culture of people to lead and inform, and I gotta

863
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: check myself and make sure that I understand Loan, just

864
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: because you inform in the culture, don't mean you leading

865
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: the culture.

866
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: It's a difference and that's your ego.

867
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Or tell you just because you informing the culture, you

868
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: leading the culture.

869
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: And we gotta be careful with position. It's so important.

870
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: But when I look at academics and I say, yo,

871
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: it's they say, Loan, how you know academic Spotify deal

872
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: was over?

873
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: How how do you know that? I say, Number one,

874
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm in the business.

875
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm having conversations with all the big companies, right so,

876
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm in the business for one. For two, do you

877
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: honestly believe that it's Spotify believed in that product, that

878
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: is DJ Academics that he would have been able to

879
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: go get a deal with a company like Rumble. Rumble

880
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: is supposed to be this anti woke racist. Now I

881
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: know different because I watch everything right now. It's some

882
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: rhetoric over that. It's very questionable. It's some shit being

883
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: said all around the world is questionable. But what I'm

884
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: telling you is for Academics to align himself with that platform,

885
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: while aligned with Spotify. They they just told y'all what

886
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I called was true. I called this two three weeks ago, like, hey, yo,

887
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: this Spotify deal over. He's now saying I ain't even

888
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: doing interviews no more. I'm gonna come do it like

889
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: Loan doing it. I'm the only person. And let me

890
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: clarify this too, because I see a lot of people

891
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: in my comments when I say, yo, Loan the only

892
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: person that had done it without a co host or

893
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: guess I got all my You gotta think one of

894
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: my first interviews was a little baby.

895
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: Think about that.

896
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Think about that, bro, Think about what I'm really doing

897
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: in podcast All of my content was just me talking,

898
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: no co host, no guests, nobody on camera, button me,

899
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: and it went far and people gravitated to it now

900
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: and I felt so lucky and I felt purpose in it,

901
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: and so I kept doing it. But I was explaining

902
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: to somebody that ain't been nobody to do it without

903
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: no co hosts or no guests. Podcasting is a guest

904
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: based sport. But my blueprint will change that. And so

905
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: they brought up text free text. They brought up text

906
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: said yo, text had one, he had one, he had

907
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: guests and he had his people, his little co host.

908
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is nobody, one person he went and

909
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: got it done.

910
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: One guy doing a podcast he went and got it done.

911
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: Yo, bro, come on, man, it ain't happy. I'm just

912
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm telling you where they have. But let's get back

913
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: to what I was saying. You wouldn't align yourself with

914
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: the right wing corporation while being in the vehicle with Spotify,

915
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: who has given you some millions of dollars according to you.

916
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: So what happens is when they give you that money,

917
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: you don't just go sign another deal?

918
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: What was that?

919
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna align Spotify with Rumble. That's how I

920
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: know the Spotify things over. Spotify is not in aligned

921
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: with Rumble. That's like, as that's conflict. They ain't doing

922
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: that right. And so behind the scenes, I see DJ

923
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: Academics to be some people are saying he's innovating. I

924
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: see him to be the kind of like a fish

925
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: out of water, almost like can't find his footing, is

926
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at. And I could be wrong, right,

927
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: but when I look, I'm saying, damn, and I'll ask

928
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: act this right, But it's like, Damn, you just had

929
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: a deal with Spotify, like you could have read up

930
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: again what happened? Like you just had a podcast deal

931
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. I would take it

932
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: like you made a bunch of bad decisions. You align

933
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: yourself with Takashi sixty nine, right, which alienated a lot

934
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: of rappers.

935
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: You then used your platform and your vehicle.

936
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: And I think some of this, I truly truly believe

937
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: that because dude be drunk sometimes that he's not calculating

938
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: all of this. I think in ten years he gonna

939
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: look back and said, man, I was dropping the ball

940
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: a little bit back then. I sustained, but I was

941
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: bullshitting a little bit when he looked back at this,

942
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: because the opportunity he has is like, what are you doing?

943
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: You had a podcast where you had everybody in the game.

944
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: I came out when he announced his podcast. I came

945
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: out and I said, oh, he in a good position.

946
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: What he's gonna do, ladies and gentlemen. He'll leverage his

947
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: Instagram for interviews, right, so he'll tell them, look, I

948
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: show you love. Come when his roll out of time,

949
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: come see me. And this would allow him a way

950
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: to funnel his audience to his exclusive deal to make

951
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: him me a rich right, this is what I thought

952
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: was gonna happen.

953
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: What did he do?

954
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: He got the deal started with Takashi, right, which I said, damn,

955
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: what was that? Some people pulled back. It was still

956
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: a super big interview, right, So that's them right now

957
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: number shockway boom boom boom, whole office talking all good job, dang,

958
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: we got we got this minute. They don't know he

959
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: tearned down behind the curtain dough, all that shit he

960
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: doune built. He tearning it down. He could have called

961
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: any rapper, any rapper before he started to maneuver like that.

962
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: So he put all his eggs in to Kashi. This

963
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: is then, I'm gonna show you how it's gonna get slippery.

964
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: So he went to dealing with Takasha. Ta Kashi go

965
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: to jail. No, he went to dealing with Takasha, and

966
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: then for some reason he found, for some reason, he

967
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: found some kind of purpose, right and responding in a

968
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 1: way online that made it where it was like disrespectful

969
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: the rappers. I think he found he kind of found

970
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: his pride, he found his manhood and telling a rap nigga.

971
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: Fuck you, you know what I'm saying it.

972
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: I almost felt like that he don't believe him unless

973
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: he tell one of you rap niggas that I don't

974
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: care what you rap niggas a basket whoever say bat loan,

975
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: you don't change what's already been established. That's non negotiable, right,

976
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't give it. Whoever, go get, whoever you want

977
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: to get. So he's like he was fighting at battle

978
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: to say I ain't going for.

979
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: That no more. And in that fight, I think it

980
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 3: cost him.

981
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: The war, which was the ability to build a big platform,

982
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: a big audio podcast platform.

983
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: You align yourself with Takasha.

984
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: Those interviews do good, the first couple of ones, right,

985
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: the snitching one and all of this. Now here's the trick.

986
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: You start to play on the fence with Takasha. You

987
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: really think you got the kind of leverage to be

988
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: able to do this. So you go from Takasha that

989
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to young boy. Young boy ain't doing nothing,

990
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: respectfully the academics. But bro, these guys ain't really vibing

991
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: with you like that slang Like these dudes ain't really

992
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: they know right, Like, yo, Bro, I'm probably the podcast

993
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: game be so like y'all niggas is I'm gonna keep

994
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: it g you niggas is Jay and so you know

995
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: he probably fucked with you on a personal level. But

996
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: it's like, do I want to sit down and talk

997
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: to you? Like you're gonna be asking me certain like

998
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: can you really relate to me?

999
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: Brother?

1000
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying, like I know you in music and

1001
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: all that fuck that music shit. Can you relate to

1002
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: me though? Did you come from the trenches though I'm

1003
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: talking about can you relate though? Hoan? Do you know

1004
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: what it would like? And that's why I'm even saying

1005
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: with the King vaon documentary thing. Our culture is so misrepresented, man,

1006
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: it's so misrepresented it especially when you deal with and

1007
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: it's a fucked up culture.

1008
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: Because weay down deep end there.

1009
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: Man, we'll say some shit that we really don't mean,

1010
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: and if it's used in the courtroom, they'll slam us

1011
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: about that. But as he tried to play the middle right,

1012
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: as d jacka Dimmis tried to play the middle ground,

1013
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: what happened was NBA young Boy wouldn't pull in if

1014
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: you know this, NBA young Boy when it did Eliot Wilson,

1015
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: he didn't do d jacka Demis.

1016
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: If you know this little dirt when it did me

1017
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: and not worth a game. He didn't do d jacka

1018
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 3: dimm if.

1019
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: You know this little baby came and did this up

1020
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: there podcast, he didn't do no d jacker dimmy And

1021
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: now you also then lost to Kashi. Takashi get his

1022
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: head whipped in at the gym and he go run

1023
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: and speak to everybody, but academics, y'all think that don't

1024
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: mean nothing. I'm telling you that's if his playing feeling.

1025
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: When you see NBA young boy going over to Elliot Wilson,

1026
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: when you see Takashi six ' nine, go everywhere but

1027
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: DJ academics to speak about what happened. When you see

1028
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: little Uzi vert don't go, when you see all these

1029
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: people that don't go, that's his plan effectively feeling because

1030
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: he thought I would always have Takashi. I got young boy,

1031
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: me and Oozie straight like he would. He had a

1032
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: couple of minutes hat everybody pull him back, even when

1033
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: he had Savage upel last time. I know, they were like, damn, bro,

1034
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: you're doing too much. Though, like I show was like, yo,

1035
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: what this act? Don't give nothing what we do? Like

1036
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but that might be his homeboy. So I

1037
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: don't know what this is, but I'm saying, what we

1038
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: getting from acting? To let this be the case? You

1039
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: talking about one of the most solid young nigga in

1040
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: the game, one of the most solid young nigga.

1041
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: In the game.

1042
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: You talking like this here to this other man about

1043
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: this nigg Come man, what we getting from acting allowing

1044
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: him to do that? But I seen Mesic Savage checked

1045
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: him about it. My thing is, I don't even know

1046
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: why act was comfortable coming off that way.

1047
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: It was it was always to me, I felt like,

1048
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: what is he doing?

1049
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: Little baby interview changed my life, right, because I'm a hustler.

1050
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: But let's move on from all this list shit. You know,

1051
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: we'll get back into some of this next week. What

1052
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: I want to talk about, though, is LSU winning the

1053
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: women's championship basketball game.

1054
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 3: This was a monumental event.

1055
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I felt like women's sports hadn't had a shot in

1056
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: the arm, and they was not using the whole Kyle right.

1057
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: They wasn't putting themselves in position to have the storylines,

1058
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: plus the talent, plus the commercials, plus the brands, plus

1059
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: the nil like everything using it all right. I just

1060
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: felt like they wasn't doing that for a long time.

1061
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: And this particular moment gave me a glimpse into what

1062
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: could be in regards to women's sports, because typically I

1063
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: don't watch women's sports, but the storyline here drew me in.

1064
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: So let me speak about that. There were two people

1065
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: involved in what was called a back and forth. You

1066
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: had Andrew Reeves and Caitlyn Clark. I'm gonna be honest,

1067
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: this country sits on a weird hill. It seems like

1068
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: the country sits on paranoia. Sports are no longer sports

1069
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: when it's blacker gets white. Baseball, a baseball, basketball, a basketball.

1070
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Football ain't just football when there's a black quarterback and

1071
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: a white quarterback that may not like each other, or

1072
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: may be competitive or may draw inspiration in that competitive

1073
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: state from one another. As these stories were developed in

1074
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: between these young ladies, and we'll get in a sum

1075
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: of it, right, I'm gonna try to summarize this, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to just summarize this, and had a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Lsu end up winning the game. Now, there was a famous.

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Speaker 1: Mocking what they're calling it, We know it to come

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Speaker 1: from Tony Yayo. John Cena now uses it in the

1080
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Speaker 1: WWE and this that you can't see me. Both these

1081
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Speaker 1: players were Saul doing this particular hand gesture to reference

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Speaker 1: being unstoppable in the game. And so if you look

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Speaker 1: at the screen, we're gonna show.

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Speaker 3: And Angel Reese knows a.

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Speaker 4: Ring is coming.

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Speaker 6: Currently, before LSU won the Women's NCAA Championship game Sunday,

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 6: LSU's Angel Reese waved her hand in front of her

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 6: face that iowas Caitlin Clark. She then pointed toward her

1089
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 6: finger as if to say a ring was coming. People

1090
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 6: on social media supported Reese for trash talk that's just

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Speaker 6: part of the game, while others condemned her for lacking grace.

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Speaker 6: She was unapologetic in the postgame conference, saying that her

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Speaker 6: win was for the girls who look like her that'll

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00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 6: speak up for what they believe in. Clark had previously

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 6: made the face waving gesture during the tournament to no

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Speaker 6: one in particular. When asked about Reese's gesture, Clark said

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Speaker 6: she was trying to get okay.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm showing you here is because I want

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Speaker 1: to put this in context. Right, It's so important to

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Speaker 1: really wrap your arms in your mind around the fact

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: that trash talking in these sporting events is not only warranted,

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Speaker 1: but encouraged. It's encouraged that you compete at a high level.

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: Not only warranted in most circumstances, but also accepted. When

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00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: we look at some of the best basketball that we've

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Speaker 1: saw played in regards to me as basketball, in regards

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00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: to basketball at all, it's.

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Speaker 3: Always a storyline.

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00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: And I want to take a look at some of

1109
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: Caitlyn's Clark's gestures or TIMPs at showing the other side

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Speaker 1: that we're in a competitive sport and we're here to

1111
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: crush you.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look the basketball watch landside.

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 6: She doesn't even look at her her head as if

1114
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Speaker 6: to say, I don't care about you.

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Speaker 2: You basically tell Haley man lift, you're down fifteen points.

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Speaker 3: Shut up.

1117
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna go talk to some of her teammates to

1118
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Speaker 2: see what are some of their best Caitlin clapbacks or

1119
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: best motivations.

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Speaker 3: Let's find out the.

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Speaker 5: Last game when she was like, you can't see me,

1122
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 5: not really got everyone firing up.

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Speaker 3: But she gets an anmue. She's like, go like this

1124
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: and come to the bunch.

1125
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 4: And she'd be like, what's gone?

1126
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: That's really fun. She gets pretty fiery in our time outs.

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: You know, she might even clap back at last because

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00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: she wants she wants us to play with that same fire,

1129
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, and sometimes we're pretty even killed, some of us,

1130
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: but she's like.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, come on.

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Speaker 1: So again, a hard question now becomes, do we want

1133
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: to talk about trash talking in sports or do we

1134
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about black trash talking in sports to

1135
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: a white person that didn't win. And I hate to

1136
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: make it racy or I hate to make it like,

1137
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: but these are the these are the these are.

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Speaker 3: The contribut in factors.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to talk about trash talking sports or

1140
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Speaker 1: do we want to talk about black trash talking sports

1141
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: to a white girl who maybe didn't win, Because if

1142
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Speaker 1: we look at it, she told somebody you down fifteen points,

1143
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Speaker 1: shut up? So she out there with that same what

1144
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: they call fire, Why is it fired from her in

1145
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: violence from me? The same act on the same court,

1146
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: in the same instance, under the same circumstances. It's fire

1147
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: for one in violence for the other. And when I

1148
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: say violence, of course I'm using that loosely. But let's

1149
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: remain in context with our conversation. One thing, I won't

1150
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: be able to ignore you know, when I looked at this,

1151
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Speaker 1: I said, man, this is just not even I don't

1152
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Speaker 1: see why we even talking about it, because when we

1153
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: look at sports, not only it's talking acceptable, but there's

1154
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things acceptable in sports that may be crimes.

1155
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: You got two people that go in UFC, you know,

1156
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: take they clothes and hit each You do that outside

1157
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: of the ring, You're going to jail boxing the same thing, right,

1158
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: and and so, and even when you look at hockey, man,

1159
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: they used to stop the whole game and two people

1160
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: to get down right there, catch a fade, and get

1161
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: back to playing. And so what I'm saying is that

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Speaker 1: they modify the rules of engagement when you're dealing with

1163
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: competitive sports. I don't know why their grace wasn't lended

1164
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: in this instance. Another thing is you don't taunt me

1165
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: like It's almost like that she was trying to do it,

1166
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: but she was trying to show out to her friends

1167
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: over Are you are you trying to Are you wanna

1168
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: you donna turn that on?

1169
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Speaker 4: You wanna?

1170
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: Are you want to ball the All right? So you

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: go over here to your people. They can't see me,

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Speaker 1: You ain't tell me. But guess what when I come

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to tell you though, Ash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on your motherfucking that. Yeah, what you doing?

1175
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm doing all you started.

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Speaker 3: You went on man, you I saw you. You thought

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Speaker 3: I didn't see you. I saw you win over man,

1178
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: done like that.

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Speaker 4: I saw it.

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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna turned me on. I'm on you now,

1181
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm on you. See.

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem. They want to try to categorize

1183
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Speaker 1: you to do about what they'll do. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: hit me, I might kill you.