WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Best Camp Position Battle? 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:17.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.200 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:33.800 Star in Friscola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Bryan Brothers, Rob Phillips, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.600 and Bill Jones. We are streaming live and we might 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.239 be screaming live too with airplanes taking off behind us 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:45.479 here on the practice field in Oxnard, California. As this 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.800 is Thursday, and this is the third straight day of 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:55.000 practices here in Oxnard, and it is practice number seven 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.640 in pads number five. I think, do you do this 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:02.280 as a test like an It's like Derek Derek has 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:07.160 this thing episode one, sixteen years the season and all 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.520 that thirty seven When somebody hosts, it's like they just 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.600 totally don't even talk about it. But I think it's 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.959 it with you. Is it like trying to just know 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.200 you're pro? That's trying to keep the brain active. I 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.280 see you working out in the morning side was wondering 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.920 if yet now you're doing that doing my mental gymnastics. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.479 I got to figure this. It is day number ten 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.880 for the team here in Oxnard, right and for us yeah, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.760 that's exactly well. One of us got out here a 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.479 day earl O number eleven, so it was workout number 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.240 eleven for me today. Yeah, start continues. You you're doing great. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:47.160 We wouldn't drove out here with you. Yeah, it seemed 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.240 like the drive just from Lax to Hear. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.200 it seems like you drove from Texas here, Mickey. In 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:58.160 honor of a TCU's first day of practice, this is 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:02.120 TCU horn Frog Purple on today. You look very spiffy there. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.760 Make me thank you very much. It could be LSU. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.280 It could be LSU. That's exactly right. It could be 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.960 Kansas State. We're gonna go through every team, every team, 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.880 and I go ahead and say Northwestern wire at it, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.320 the Minnesota Vikings too, all right, And it is a 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.880 big day for the local TV types here because the 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.800 DAK car wash is today. There you go after the 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.519 morning walk through at eleven thirty. Is that a TV 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.679 term car wash? It's I like it. I just never 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.960 heard of it. It's a I guess ESPN is the 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.799 one who who coined the phrase. When you know, uh, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.799 in the summertime, they'll take a like the Big Twelfth 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.680 Conference and SEC coaches all up to Bristol and they'll 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.520 run them through the car wash. I mean, and they'll 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.359 go do ESPN two, they'll do big ESPN, they'll do radio, 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.160 they'll do all of that. And they do that I 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.000 think with some NFL types too. But anyway, for and 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.440 so I will see listen questions for Dak Prescott because 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.760 I've got to sit down with him like that. I've 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.280 got a list of questions. But if there's something out 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.040 there that someone wants to hear from Dak Prescott or 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:14.040 from you gentlemen too, if you have any suggestions, Yeah, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.440 you know, I don't know what he thinks about the anthem. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.119 Yeah he sorry told you that, hedn't he? Oh? Yeah, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.640 Now to stop people from trying to ask, now the 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.440 question is, and being a local TV type, I get 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.040 pressure from my newspeople. But sure, now you gotta ask him, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.160 what do you think about the reaction to your anthem opinions? 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.800 So that's probably a question I'll have to ask today. Yeah, 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.080 what football question do you have? That? That's what I 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:48.120 would like football questions? Um, Because on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.840 Com and we were talking about we all were a 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.160 part of a twenty questions thing and talking about pressure 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.480 on the head coach, pressure on the quarterback, and which 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.600 would have more, which would feel more? But you know, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.600 you look at what he has to you know, he's 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.360 won twenty two games in his career. You know he'd 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.200 like to, of course, you know, keep keep winning doing 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.000 his winning ways. But is there pressure on him? Does 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.280 he feel pressure about a contract? Does questions? Does he 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.560 feel does he feel pressure? In my opinion, does he 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.640 feel pressure? Is it team pressure? Is it personal pressure? 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.440 What's the pressure? Though? The pressure is to do what? 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.200 To learn? One hundred plus million dollars contract potentially after this? 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:30.880 So what do you have to do to do that? 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.800 Play we have a great season. That's a great season, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.480 lead the team to wins. So now you guys are 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.880 skirting the question. I'm not what, No, that's my answer. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.880 He he led him to how many wins in two years? 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.760 Twenty two? That's not good enough? Yeah? He super Bowl, 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:53.480 super Bowl doesn't ever, he doesn't Every year matter, it 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.919 does not what every year? You gotta do something better? Successful, ten, eleven, twelve, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.559 super Bowl. I I think it's ultimately that's Matt Ryan 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.600 just got paid a lot of money, right, right? He 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.800 hadn't won a Super Bowl. Sure, he's put the cart 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.680 in front of the horse. Can't You can't put the 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.520 cart in front of the horse. I know that, right, Okay? 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.039 And so that's why Dak go oh In the last 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.880 week or so, he tweets out a picture of him 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.480 coming on the practice field here at training camp. Tunnel vision, right, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.479 he cannot be thinking about what might be in store 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.960 down the road. He's got to have tunnel vision and 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.560 outside noise, whether it's reaction to what opinion that the 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.480 quarterback of America's team has on the anthem or whatever, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.520 He's got to have tunnel vision on what's hell? There's 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.480 the first question. Then how do you develop that as 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:47.760 a quarterback and block out everything else that's swirling around you? Yeah? 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.200 And he's young, and he's only in his third year 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.560 in the NFL, and it seems like he's already learned that. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.359 Can I ask you a question, what point were you 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.040 driving at in that? In that is trying to get 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.200 to the Matt Ryan think. Well with Matt Ryan is 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:01.960 what did he get one hundred million? So the guy 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.440 in Minnesota got a lot of money too, Yeah, Garoppolo, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.839 pressure on him? Yeah, you know, because he's already got 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.760 his money. Now does he does he keep it? I 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.080 think I think it's a different pressure. I think it's 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.320 a different pressure. I think because it's the Cowboys. I 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.760 think those guys when you when you pay guys like that, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.280 that means you've solidified your position as a job with 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.360 your job position. But Garoppolo, yeah, I think, so what 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.960 did he solidify five games? Well, he solidified that. San 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.720 Francisco feels like that he's a quarterback of the future. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.960 Team team this team doesn't. This team necessarily is waiting 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.000 to see if Dak Prescott's the quarterback of the future. Mick, 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.159 put yourself in his shoes. Okay, he makes four hundred 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.599 and fifty K, I got it, all right. You have 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:47.760 an opportunity to increase your salary by tens of millions 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.560 of dollars. Okay, that's I call that good pressure. But 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.080 that's pressure. But I mean that's that's an opportunity. He 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.599 could play well and they could lose. He can't do 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.240 it by himself. I'm not I'm not saying that that 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.120 would prevent him from doing that. I'm just saying that 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.880 that's out in front of him, and he has to 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.000 perform at whatever level the Cowboys decide to whatever perspective 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.400 they have based on his performance to give him that. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.760 That's I look at his good pressure and I think 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.640 Dak's answer your question would be, I don't. I don't 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.760 feel that pressure. And I actually believe that because just 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.360 being around this guy for three years, he's a unique 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.280 person like I just I honestly don't think the anthem 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.960 stuff too like I don't. I really believe him when 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.640 he says he believes what he believes. He focuses on 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.120 what he focuses on, and he doesn't let noise bother him. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.520 I truly believe that. I don't believe that with certain guys, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.600 but I believe it with dad Man. I was looking 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.920 back at his Mississippi State stuff last night and studying 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.080 up to talk to him today. It is remarkable the 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.920 career that he had at Mississippi State. I mean one 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.520 of those the aspects of that, and this goes to 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.160 playing quarterback and being the leader of America's team. He 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.520 won with the Senior Class Award. Are you familiar with 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.960 the Senior Class Award? It is not only for what 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.400 you do on the field and academics, but it's community 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.920 service type thing. It is one of the most it's 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.400 like a complete person. Yeah, and that is one of 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.800 the most prestigious awards that a college athlete can win. Yeah, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.680 and he won that at Mississippi State. Well, yeah, I 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.440 think the thing that you look at him, I'm sorry, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.360 go ahead, no, but no. But but my point is 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.480 not obviously they're building statues for him at Mississippi shut 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.800 but when you look, we should not be surprised at 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.280 how he handles everything at this level. It could just 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.320 look back at his career at Mississippi State and consider 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.960 what he was going through during a portion of that time, 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.280 if not all the time, dealing with his mom's cancer 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.360 and her passing and so forth. Had one of the 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.960 greatest games of his career just a couple of weeks 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.880 after his mom passes away in their big rivalry game 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.679 in the Egg Bowl where he comes off the bench 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.480 with a broken wall. I can't remember what was broken 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.920 audio stuff there was broken. Yeah. The DAK documentary that 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.839 we did our staff, dad Kent, Dave Taylor going out 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.120 there that Yeah, and it wasn't just they love him 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.960 so much out there, and like you said, it's not 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.080 just about what he did on the football field, you know, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.480 it's it's it's the person he is and the impact 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.760 he's had on that community come from a scouting perspective, though. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.280 Scouts have gone through there since he's been gone, and 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.720 they've gone, you know, they're like, Okay, where are all 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.000 the players, where are all the this is a ten 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.600 win team, nine win team. They're going in there thinking, wait, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.960 this is a team that should that has all these 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.360 all these talented players, and they really don't. It was 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.439 a lot of it was Dak Prescott's much When you 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.479 talked about this leadership, his determination, his drive, his willingness 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.360 to sacrifice. You know that that That's the funny thing. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.120 Scouts went in there like whoa, whoa, whoa. Without him, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.440 this is a five six win tis athleticism two. I mean, 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.600 you know, he ran for a lot of yards and 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.200 ye Mississippi State, And I went back and looked at 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.320 some of the videos of it, and there were some 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:09.800 athletic places running the football and with some speed to 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:15.040 get away from some SEC defenders and so forth. So anyway, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.120 you know, I like what you're saying about the I 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.240 think that we all feel pressure in certain ways. Yeah, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.240 you know we're all we all we all want to 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.840 feel like though that you know that we have our 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.520 fate in our hands here, you know, and he we 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.160 want we feel pressure to try and get to that 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.800 next level. I I you say, good pressure. I like 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.040 what you're saying there. But you know he would probably say, no, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.200 I don't feel the pressure tunnel vision all that. But humans, 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.160 we do feel that. We do feel pressure to perform. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.040 I feel pressure every night to sit down and write 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.840 a good piece so somebody next day. But you can 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.400 read it and feel a little bit better about no 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.839 One about this football. But here's the difference pressure that is. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.360 And you're right, I agree with you. This is why 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.360 I say it's good pressure, because you love what you do, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.839 so you look forward to that opportunity, that challenge. That's why. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.559 That's how I think Dak probably approaches it. But I 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.079 think I think everyone can apply it to You can 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.320 apply it to your own life. Yeah, about where you 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.920 were coming when you were coming out of college in 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.600 your chosen profession, and there's so much uncertainty as you 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.600 go out there. Now, obviously from a pay scale, this 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.960 is way down here, Yea, and Dak's opportunities way yeah. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.720 But I mean I've got three kids with with two 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.160 three sons in law, and there's a lot of pressure 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.880 on the husbands of my daughters to put put food 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.240 on the table in an economy that we don't know 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.800 kay housing market that is for our first time HomeBuyer, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.360 there's pressure on those people. I think it's the wrong word. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.520 I think there's motivation. There's pressure and motivation. I think 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.760 I don't know if they're the same. You're motivated to 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.319 improve yourself, right, but you don't sit there going god, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.880 you know. And I'll give you an example, because I 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.720 remember when I got to the Dallas Times Herald and 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.720 I'm sitting in the newsroom and I got to knock 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.960 out a story, right, and I was grinding, I mean 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.400 grinding because this was gonna be the best story I 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.400 ever wrote in my life. Right, I had to prove 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.160 myself and the sports that are walked by. And he 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.040 looked at me and he goes, hey, Mick, smile, you know, 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.199 and he saw what I was doing, right, And then 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.360 it's like, Okay, I'm motivated to do well. And if 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.000 pressure causes motivation, then it's in the off season. I 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.320 got to be prepared. I got to be prepared on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.640 But when I hear pressure, and I think what people 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.560 are saying is I'm under huddle, and I'm going, oh 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.880 my god, I better complete this pass or I'm gonna 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.600 lose a million dollars. I got a great example of 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.400 this when I graduated from college. I went and looking 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:54.079 for radio or TV jobs, and now that was pressure. Well, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.520 and the pay was like three fifty an hour. I 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.920 mean with I got a college degree, Yeah, I want 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.760 a corpus Christie applying for a TV job and the 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.640 pay was like three seventy five an hour. Yeah, okay. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.880 So I decided, all right, maybe it's in my blood 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.199 to be a lawyer because my dad's a lawyer. I've 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.080 got two sisters her attorneys. So I went to law school. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.120 The most miserable month of my life was in law 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.480 school at the University of Oklahoma. I was I was 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.920 doing OU football play by play at the same time, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.680 and I was studying the rosters for the OU USC 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.160 game number one versus Number two, a lot more than 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.120 I was torts or criminal law or any of that. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.400 So I quit law school a month into it. Okay, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.160 I went to work in Lubbock, Texas, making twelve thousand 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.480 dollars a year, and I worked there for four years, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.400 and I look back, those were the I was in 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.800 my zone there, Okay, where I was, I was, and 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.400 I was making nothing, you know, with the hope that 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.400 someday I'll be able to get married and raise a 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.360 family and so forth. But just like when Dak talks 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.160 about his piece is out here on this football field, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.679 you know, with his the anthem talk, whatever, his piece 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.680 is on this football field, and if he does what 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.120 he loves to do out here, everything else takes care 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.319 of itself. And that was my attitude when I was 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.520 working in Lubbook and San Antonio. And you know, that's 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.920 exactly my point. That's a great story. Like he's been 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.320 through an he's been through a lot in his life. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.480 That's where his peace and his passion is, and so 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.640 pursue it. You know, I agreed. Maybe the pressure then 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.880 is not even on him. Yeah, I don't think it. Maybe, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.400 you know, maybe Mickey's right that pressure might be the 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.920 wrong word. I think I think pressure in all walks 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.600 of life, a little bit is good because he makes 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.200 you get up in the morning, you work hard, people 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.760 pushing you. It makes you, you know, so I'm with you, Mick. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.000 I don't look at it as bad pressure. But there 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.440 is pressure on everybody out there to perform, the coaching staff, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.200 the players. It depends on how you view it. How 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.560 what's your perspective is. I just don't like the word that. Well, yeah, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.920 I mean it's kind of something because if you're feeling pressure, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.280 then you ain't performing. Like I'll give you pressure. You're 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.880 in Wimbledon, the sets on the line, and you're serving 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.800 and you've already made your first double fault. Now you've 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.160 got to be able to throw the ball up and 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.000 hit it over the net in the little box, right, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.560 otherwise you're losing. Now if you're thinking about all that 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.440 your toast. But right, you gotta just sit there and go, Okay, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.520 I've done this a million times, let's just do it 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.880 one more time. Right. You can't think about failure. So 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.440 if you're thinking about failure, then there's pressure on you. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.240 You got to think about this is how I do 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.920 this next play, and not oh what if I screw 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.120 this up? Yeah, And then if you're feeling that you're 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.800 your toast. Pressure pressure is when you got a twenty 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.720 dollars bet, and you only got five dollars in your wall. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.360 Your pressure is Jerry Jones walking to the rental car 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.080 company at DFW and you know your credit cards not 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.520 gonna feel proved, right, it gets cutting off field, right, 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.240 that's pressures, pressure, And these guys are all out here. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.840 Everybody that made it out here is wired a little 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.560 differently because they're able to, like you said, block that 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.400 stuff out, or they wouldn't make it to this level. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.920 That's absolutely Yeah. A reminder, we've got the Blue White 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.840 Scrimmage right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. It is 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.840 on Sunday four o'clock. Actually, the team gets out on 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.720 the field. They start walking out there on the field 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.840 about three thirty. And so you want to get out here. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.760 If you're in southern California, head on out here. Appearances 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.120 autographs from Rowdy, the official mascot of the Cowboys. There's 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.200 a youth combine that is set up over on the 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:36.520 by the grandstands. Yeah, for ages six to sixteen, skills, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.520 drills coaching from former NFL players. Former Cowboy Corey Proctor 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.680 has been out there. I was talking to him about 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.400 it yesterday. Is that what he's here for. That's what 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.440 he's here for. Yeah, he's he runs that and uh, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.240 there's there's fun, as they say, fun for the whole family. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.720 Yea out here and we'll also have it if you 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.840 can't make it out to two training camp, we'll have 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.080 it here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and in the 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.800 Dallas Fort Worth Theory. It's televised on t XA twenty 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.920 one and we'll all be a part of the broadcast 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.760 as well. We're prepared for it, or is there too much? 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.439 Could this be the year that we get Nate to 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.439 say a few words, Nate. We geting Nate on the 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.880 sidelines with Lindsay and next no, Nate just takes over 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.480 the broadcast. I love, I love the interaction with May. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.560 Moved to the big table this year. Oh, I don't know, 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.399 I don't know. I'll tell you why. Nate does a 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.280 great job. He was in rare Form yesterday with him 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:37.920 and he and Tony Wise together. He was here. Dave 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.720 Campo was here too, yes, and they started in war 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.560 stories and I was in tears. Tony Wise maybe the 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.520 funniest person. Then you get and then you get Nate 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:52.160 going and all my lord, yeah, and Campbell was here 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:58.280 and uh, what a nice guy. He comes up to 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.760 me on the sideline and you know when when b 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.520 Ornson was with the Cowboys, I was off doing baseball 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.760 stuff and he obviously watches Dallas Cowboys dot com. He come, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.639 well or else he just saw my name on the 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.119 name tag here now, but he comes. He comes up 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.560 and says, Hi, Bill, how you doing. I'm like, I'm Eric, Oh, yeah, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.480 I remember you. He did the same thing to me 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.320 because he walked by and I might have not. I 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.240 mean he's kind of tall and lost. Lender had his 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.640 boys with him, and yeah, he did the same thing. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.160 I post a question in Nate yesterday was on their 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.280 show Hanging with the Boys and see if you agree 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.360 with this, asked Nate. We had a caller call in 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.200 and kind of talk about the offensive line. Color wanted 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:43.200 to know what current Cowboy offensive lineman could have played 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.720 on their offensive line has been a starter and what 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.960 do you think. Nate's answer was, who what? What Cowboy 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.480 player on this current line does he feel like could 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.119 have been on one of the starting five on his 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.880 Super Bowl line? Nate calls Zack Martin the president, Right, 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:06.280 I'm gonna guess Nate said, Zach could have taken his job. No, no, okay, 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:11.560 it's not Wait so which guy five could play? No? No, 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.239 no, no no, no, no, what guy on this curl? The 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.720 cowboy current five could have been a starter on the 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:24.159 Super Bowl five? Wow, that's a heck of a question. Well, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:25.640 I mean, Nate answered it, and I was just gonna 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.720 I'd see if you guys wanted, answer would be go 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.560 to Tyron Smith. But it is Tyron Smith. He would 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.479 have taken t Smith. Well that's the first thing. But 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.320 he but he would have replaced Mark Tuine And he says, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.000 you know, but he you know, when it came down, 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.520 I asked him about what about Travis Frederick? You know 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.720 it's center. He says, nah, step h, No, Wow, he 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.439 was Adam and even you know he was Nate was 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.400 trying hard to answer the question. I mean, it really 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.760 took him back. Nate had himself above the president. Oh well, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:58.200 Nate was taking himself out of that. That's a good answer. Yeah, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.439 but he but he so like he he felt like 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.000 that Tyrant Smith could have been the guy and he 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.560 and the only really he says, and it was tough. 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.200 He says, maybe two maybe two. He goes, I'm not 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.520 going there fully, but if I had to say, who 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.840 could be off this line? And I was, I mean, 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.320 he went through a lot of whys and why not. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:19.960 It's a really good show if you want to go 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:25.359 back on Dallas Cowboys. If you looked at it from 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.600 Tyrant Smith's standpoint, he's he's much more talent than Mark 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.600 two and a ever was right right, and Tyrn Smith 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:41.480 has got the same um destroying instant demeanor as yeah demeanor, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:47.680 thank you destroying Actually today I'm kind That's what. That's 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.359 what made two and Yeah. He was a tough So 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.600 that's if you were in an alley William, But if 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.440 you were in an alley fight, you wanted to see 0:20:55.640 --> 0:21:00.600 with you, that's what That's what That's why Hey, that's 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.760 why Nate had. He was saying we were a different line, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.439 and we were talking Tony he goes, we were different. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.359 We wanted to maul people. These guys are athletes, he goes. 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.280 We just wanted We just were gonna find a way 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.560 to maul you the whole game. We weren't worried about 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.199 getting in space and second level and all that. We 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.679 were just going to find a way to mash you 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.040 and but I found it interesting. That's cool. It was 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.200 a great, great question by one of the listeners out there. 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.320 So he's including so that was for maybe he wasn't 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.800 talking about the Larry Allen. Larry Allen, Oh no, he 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:39.680 So you're talking an offensive line because of course Larry 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.480 Allen came in the middle of that, right, and so 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.560 because you had John Geesick in there. So he's he's 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.360 looking at an offensive line. If you had to take 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.920 the best offensive line from that area, right, you got 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.359