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Speaker 1: here on the practice field in Oxnard, California. As this
Speaker 1: is Thursday, and this is the third straight day of
Speaker 1: practices here in Oxnard, and it is practice number seven
Speaker 1: in pads number five. I think, do you do this
Speaker 1: as a test like an It's like Derek Derek has
Speaker 1: this thing episode one, sixteen years the season and all
Speaker 1: that thirty seven When somebody hosts, it's like they just
Speaker 1: totally don't even talk about it. But I think it's
Speaker 1: it with you. Is it like trying to just know
Speaker 1: you're pro? That's trying to keep the brain active. I
Speaker 1: see you working out in the morning side was wondering
Speaker 1: if yet now you're doing that doing my mental gymnastics.
Speaker 1: I got to figure this. It is day number ten
Speaker 1: for the team here in Oxnard, right and for us yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly well. One of us got out here a
Speaker 1: day earl O number eleven, so it was workout number
Speaker 1: eleven for me today. Yeah, start continues. You you're doing great.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't drove out here with you. Yeah, it seemed
Speaker 1: like the drive just from Lax to Hear. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like you drove from Texas here, Mickey. In
Speaker 1: honor of a TCU's first day of practice, this is
Speaker 1: TCU horn Frog Purple on today. You look very spiffy there.
Speaker 1: Make me thank you very much. It could be LSU.
Speaker 1: It could be LSU. That's exactly right. It could be
Speaker 1: Kansas State. We're gonna go through every team, every team,
Speaker 1: and I go ahead and say Northwestern wire at it,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings too, all right, And it is a
Speaker 1: big day for the local TV types here because the
Speaker 1: DAK car wash is today. There you go after the
Speaker 1: morning walk through at eleven thirty. Is that a TV
Speaker 1: term car wash? It's I like it. I just never
Speaker 1: heard of it. It's a I guess ESPN is the
Speaker 1: one who who coined the phrase. When you know, uh,
Speaker 1: in the summertime, they'll take a like the Big Twelfth
Speaker 1: Conference and SEC coaches all up to Bristol and they'll
Speaker 1: run them through the car wash. I mean, and they'll
Speaker 1: go do ESPN two, they'll do big ESPN, they'll do radio,
Speaker 1: they'll do all of that. And they do that I
Speaker 1: think with some NFL types too. But anyway, for and
Speaker 1: so I will see listen questions for Dak Prescott because
Speaker 1: I've got to sit down with him like that. I've
Speaker 1: got a list of questions. But if there's something out
Speaker 1: there that someone wants to hear from Dak Prescott or
Speaker 1: from you gentlemen too, if you have any suggestions, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what he thinks about the anthem.
Speaker 1: Yeah he sorry told you that, hedn't he? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now to stop people from trying to ask, now the
Speaker 1: question is, and being a local TV type, I get
Speaker 1: pressure from my newspeople. But sure, now you gotta ask him,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the reaction to your anthem opinions?
Speaker 1: So that's probably a question I'll have to ask today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what football question do you have? That? That's what I
Speaker 1: would like football questions? Um, Because on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com and we were talking about we all were a
Speaker 1: part of a twenty questions thing and talking about pressure
Speaker 1: on the head coach, pressure on the quarterback, and which
Speaker 1: would have more, which would feel more? But you know,
Speaker 1: you look at what he has to you know, he's
Speaker 1: won twenty two games in his career. You know he'd
Speaker 1: like to, of course, you know, keep keep winning doing
Speaker 1: his winning ways. But is there pressure on him? Does
Speaker 1: he feel pressure about a contract? Does questions? Does he
Speaker 1: feel does he feel pressure? In my opinion, does he
Speaker 1: feel pressure? Is it team pressure? Is it personal pressure?
Speaker 1: What's the pressure? Though? The pressure is to do what?
Speaker 1: To learn? One hundred plus million dollars contract potentially after this?
Speaker 1: So what do you have to do to do that?
Speaker 1: Play we have a great season. That's a great season,
Speaker 1: lead the team to wins. So now you guys are
Speaker 1: skirting the question. I'm not what, No, that's my answer.
Speaker 1: He he led him to how many wins in two years?
Speaker 1: Twenty two? That's not good enough? Yeah? He super Bowl,
Speaker 1: super Bowl doesn't ever, he doesn't Every year matter, it
Speaker 1: does not what every year? You gotta do something better? Successful, ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I I think it's ultimately that's Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: just got paid a lot of money, right, right? He
Speaker 1: hadn't won a Super Bowl. Sure, he's put the cart
Speaker 1: in front of the horse. Can't You can't put the
Speaker 1: cart in front of the horse. I know that, right, Okay?
Speaker 1: And so that's why Dak go oh In the last
Speaker 1: week or so, he tweets out a picture of him
Speaker 1: coming on the practice field here at training camp. Tunnel vision, right,
Speaker 1: he cannot be thinking about what might be in store
Speaker 1: down the road. He's got to have tunnel vision and
Speaker 1: outside noise, whether it's reaction to what opinion that the
Speaker 1: quarterback of America's team has on the anthem or whatever,
Speaker 1: He's got to have tunnel vision on what's hell? There's
Speaker 1: the first question. Then how do you develop that as
Speaker 1: a quarterback and block out everything else that's swirling around you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he's young, and he's only in his third year
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it seems like he's already learned that.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, what point were you
Speaker 1: driving at in that? In that is trying to get
Speaker 1: to the Matt Ryan think. Well with Matt Ryan is
Speaker 1: what did he get one hundred million? So the guy
Speaker 1: in Minnesota got a lot of money too, Yeah, Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: pressure on him? Yeah, you know, because he's already got
Speaker 1: his money. Now does he does he keep it? I
Speaker 1: think I think it's a different pressure. I think it's
Speaker 1: a different pressure. I think because it's the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: think those guys when you when you pay guys like that,
Speaker 1: that means you've solidified your position as a job with
Speaker 1: your job position. But Garoppolo, yeah, I think, so what
Speaker 1: did he solidify five games? Well, he solidified that. San
Speaker 1: Francisco feels like that he's a quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: Team team this team doesn't. This team necessarily is waiting
Speaker 1: to see if Dak Prescott's the quarterback of the future. Mick,
Speaker 1: put yourself in his shoes. Okay, he makes four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty K, I got it, all right. You have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to increase your salary by tens of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. Okay, that's I call that good pressure. But
Speaker 1: that's pressure. But I mean that's that's an opportunity. He
Speaker 1: could play well and they could lose. He can't do
Speaker 1: it by himself. I'm not I'm not saying that that
Speaker 1: would prevent him from doing that. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: that's out in front of him, and he has to
Speaker 1: perform at whatever level the Cowboys decide to whatever perspective
Speaker 1: they have based on his performance to give him that.
Speaker 1: That's I look at his good pressure and I think
Speaker 1: Dak's answer your question would be, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: feel that pressure. And I actually believe that because just
Speaker 1: being around this guy for three years, he's a unique
Speaker 1: person like I just I honestly don't think the anthem
Speaker 1: stuff too like I don't. I really believe him when
Speaker 1: he says he believes what he believes. He focuses on
Speaker 1: what he focuses on, and he doesn't let noise bother him.
Speaker 1: I truly believe that. I don't believe that with certain guys,
Speaker 1: but I believe it with dad Man. I was looking
Speaker 1: back at his Mississippi State stuff last night and studying
Speaker 1: up to talk to him today. It is remarkable the
Speaker 1: career that he had at Mississippi State. I mean one
Speaker 1: of those the aspects of that, and this goes to
Speaker 1: playing quarterback and being the leader of America's team. He
Speaker 1: won with the Senior Class Award. Are you familiar with
Speaker 1: the Senior Class Award? It is not only for what
Speaker 1: you do on the field and academics, but it's community
Speaker 1: service type thing. It is one of the most it's
Speaker 1: like a complete person. Yeah, and that is one of
Speaker 1: the most prestigious awards that a college athlete can win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he won that at Mississippi State. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the thing that you look at him, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, no, but no. But but my point is
Speaker 1: not obviously they're building statues for him at Mississippi shut
Speaker 1: but when you look, we should not be surprised at
Speaker 1: how he handles everything at this level. It could just
Speaker 1: look back at his career at Mississippi State and consider
Speaker 1: what he was going through during a portion of that time,
Speaker 1: if not all the time, dealing with his mom's cancer
Speaker 1: and her passing and so forth. Had one of the
Speaker 1: greatest games of his career just a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: after his mom passes away in their big rivalry game
Speaker 1: in the Egg Bowl where he comes off the bench
Speaker 1: with a broken wall. I can't remember what was broken
Speaker 1: audio stuff there was broken. Yeah. The DAK documentary that
Speaker 1: we did our staff, dad Kent, Dave Taylor going out
Speaker 1: there that Yeah, and it wasn't just they love him
Speaker 1: so much out there, and like you said, it's not
Speaker 1: just about what he did on the football field, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the person he is and the impact
Speaker 1: he's had on that community come from a scouting perspective, though.
Speaker 1: Scouts have gone through there since he's been gone, and
Speaker 1: they've gone, you know, they're like, Okay, where are all
Speaker 1: the players, where are all the this is a ten
Speaker 1: win team, nine win team. They're going in there thinking, wait,
Speaker 1: this is a team that should that has all these
Speaker 1: all these talented players, and they really don't. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of it was Dak Prescott's much When you
Speaker 1: talked about this leadership, his determination, his drive, his willingness
Speaker 1: to sacrifice. You know that that That's the funny thing.
Speaker 1: Scouts went in there like whoa, whoa, whoa. Without him,
Speaker 1: this is a five six win tis athleticism two. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he ran for a lot of yards and
Speaker 1: ye Mississippi State, And I went back and looked at
Speaker 1: some of the videos of it, and there were some
Speaker 1: athletic places running the football and with some speed to
Speaker 1: get away from some SEC defenders and so forth. So anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, I like what you're saying about the I
Speaker 1: think that we all feel pressure in certain ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know we're all we all we all want to
Speaker 1: feel like though that you know that we have our
Speaker 1: fate in our hands here, you know, and he we
Speaker 1: want we feel pressure to try and get to that
Speaker 1: next level. I I you say, good pressure. I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying there. But you know he would probably say, no,
Speaker 1: I don't feel the pressure tunnel vision all that. But humans,
Speaker 1: we do feel that. We do feel pressure to perform.
Speaker 1: I feel pressure every night to sit down and write
Speaker 1: a good piece so somebody next day. But you can
Speaker 1: read it and feel a little bit better about no
Speaker 1: One about this football. But here's the difference pressure that is.
Speaker 1: And you're right, I agree with you. This is why
Speaker 1: I say it's good pressure, because you love what you do,
Speaker 1: so you look forward to that opportunity, that challenge. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's how I think Dak probably approaches it. But I
Speaker 1: think I think everyone can apply it to You can
Speaker 1: apply it to your own life. Yeah, about where you
Speaker 1: were coming when you were coming out of college in
Speaker 1: your chosen profession, and there's so much uncertainty as you
Speaker 1: go out there. Now, obviously from a pay scale, this
Speaker 1: is way down here, Yea, and Dak's opportunities way yeah.
Speaker 1: But I mean I've got three kids with with two
Speaker 1: three sons in law, and there's a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on the husbands of my daughters to put put food
Speaker 1: on the table in an economy that we don't know
Speaker 1: kay housing market that is for our first time HomeBuyer,
Speaker 1: there's pressure on those people. I think it's the wrong word.
Speaker 1: I think there's motivation. There's pressure and motivation. I think
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're the same. You're motivated to
Speaker 1: improve yourself, right, but you don't sit there going god,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'll give you an example, because I
Speaker 1: remember when I got to the Dallas Times Herald and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the newsroom and I got to knock
Speaker 1: out a story, right, and I was grinding, I mean
Speaker 1: grinding because this was gonna be the best story I
Speaker 1: ever wrote in my life. Right, I had to prove
Speaker 1: myself and the sports that are walked by. And he
Speaker 1: looked at me and he goes, hey, Mick, smile, you know,
Speaker 1: and he saw what I was doing, right, And then
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I'm motivated to do well. And if
Speaker 1: pressure causes motivation, then it's in the off season. I
Speaker 1: got to be prepared. I got to be prepared on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1: But when I hear pressure, and I think what people
Speaker 1: are saying is I'm under huddle, and I'm going, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I better complete this pass or I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose a million dollars. I got a great example of
Speaker 1: this when I graduated from college. I went and looking
Speaker 1: for radio or TV jobs, and now that was pressure. Well,
Speaker 1: and the pay was like three fifty an hour. I
Speaker 1: mean with I got a college degree, Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: a corpus Christie applying for a TV job and the
Speaker 1: pay was like three seventy five an hour. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So I decided, all right, maybe it's in my blood
Speaker 1: to be a lawyer because my dad's a lawyer. I've
Speaker 1: got two sisters her attorneys. So I went to law school.
Speaker 1: The most miserable month of my life was in law
Speaker 1: school at the University of Oklahoma. I was I was
Speaker 1: doing OU football play by play at the same time,
Speaker 1: and I was studying the rosters for the OU USC
Speaker 1: game number one versus Number two, a lot more than
Speaker 1: I was torts or criminal law or any of that.
Speaker 1: So I quit law school a month into it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I went to work in Lubbock, Texas, making twelve thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year, and I worked there for four years,
Speaker 1: and I look back, those were the I was in
Speaker 1: my zone there, Okay, where I was, I was, and
Speaker 1: I was making nothing, you know, with the hope that
Speaker 1: someday I'll be able to get married and raise a
Speaker 1: family and so forth. But just like when Dak talks
Speaker 1: about his piece is out here on this football field,
Speaker 1: you know, with his the anthem talk, whatever, his piece
Speaker 1: is on this football field, and if he does what
Speaker 1: he loves to do out here, everything else takes care
Speaker 1: of itself. And that was my attitude when I was
Speaker 1: working in Lubbook and San Antonio. And you know, that's
Speaker 1: exactly my point. That's a great story. Like he's been
Speaker 1: through an he's been through a lot in his life.
Speaker 1: That's where his peace and his passion is, and so
Speaker 1: pursue it. You know, I agreed. Maybe the pressure then
Speaker 1: is not even on him. Yeah, I don't think it. Maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Mickey's right that pressure might be the
Speaker 1: wrong word. I think I think pressure in all walks
Speaker 1: of life, a little bit is good because he makes
Speaker 1: you get up in the morning, you work hard, people
Speaker 1: pushing you. It makes you, you know, so I'm with you, Mick.
Speaker 1: I don't look at it as bad pressure. But there
Speaker 1: is pressure on everybody out there to perform, the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: the players. It depends on how you view it. How
Speaker 1: what's your perspective is. I just don't like the word that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of something because if you're feeling pressure,
Speaker 1: then you ain't performing. Like I'll give you pressure. You're
Speaker 1: in Wimbledon, the sets on the line, and you're serving
Speaker 1: and you've already made your first double fault. Now you've
Speaker 1: got to be able to throw the ball up and
Speaker 1: hit it over the net in the little box, right,
Speaker 1: otherwise you're losing. Now if you're thinking about all that
Speaker 1: your toast. But right, you gotta just sit there and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've done this a million times, let's just do it
Speaker 1: one more time. Right. You can't think about failure. So
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about failure, then there's pressure on you.
Speaker 1: You got to think about this is how I do
Speaker 1: this next play, and not oh what if I screw
Speaker 1: this up? Yeah, And then if you're feeling that you're
Speaker 1: your toast. Pressure pressure is when you got a twenty
Speaker 1: dollars bet, and you only got five dollars in your wall.
Speaker 1: Your pressure is Jerry Jones walking to the rental car
Speaker 1: company at DFW and you know your credit cards not
Speaker 1: gonna feel proved, right, it gets cutting off field, right,
Speaker 1: that's pressures, pressure, And these guys are all out here.
Speaker 1: Everybody that made it out here is wired a little
Speaker 1: differently because they're able to, like you said, block that
Speaker 1: stuff out, or they wouldn't make it to this level.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely Yeah. A reminder, we've got the Blue White
Speaker 1: Scrimmage right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. It is
Speaker 1: on Sunday four o'clock. Actually, the team gets out on
Speaker 1: the field. They start walking out there on the field
Speaker 1: about three thirty. And so you want to get out here.
Speaker 1: If you're in southern California, head on out here. Appearances
Speaker 1: autographs from Rowdy, the official mascot of the Cowboys. There's
Speaker 1: a youth combine that is set up over on the
Speaker 1: by the grandstands. Yeah, for ages six to sixteen, skills,
Speaker 1: drills coaching from former NFL players. Former Cowboy Corey Proctor
Speaker 1: has been out there. I was talking to him about
Speaker 1: it yesterday. Is that what he's here for. That's what
Speaker 1: he's here for. Yeah, he's he runs that and uh,
Speaker 1: there's there's fun, as they say, fun for the whole family.
Speaker 1: Yea out here and we'll also have it if you
Speaker 1: can't make it out to two training camp, we'll have
Speaker 1: it here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and in the
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth Theory. It's televised on t XA twenty
Speaker 1: one and we'll all be a part of the broadcast
Speaker 1: as well. We're prepared for it, or is there too much?
Speaker 1: Could this be the year that we get Nate to
Speaker 1: say a few words, Nate. We geting Nate on the
Speaker 1: sidelines with Lindsay and next no, Nate just takes over
Speaker 1: the broadcast. I love, I love the interaction with May.
Speaker 1: Moved to the big table this year. Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll tell you why. Nate does a
Speaker 1: great job. He was in rare Form yesterday with him
Speaker 1: and he and Tony Wise together. He was here. Dave
Speaker 1: Campo was here too, yes, and they started in war
Speaker 1: stories and I was in tears. Tony Wise maybe the
Speaker 1: funniest person. Then you get and then you get Nate
Speaker 1: going and all my lord, yeah, and Campbell was here
Speaker 1: and uh, what a nice guy. He comes up to
Speaker 1: me on the sideline and you know when when b
Speaker 1: Ornson was with the Cowboys, I was off doing baseball
Speaker 1: stuff and he obviously watches Dallas Cowboys dot com. He come,
Speaker 1: well or else he just saw my name on the
Speaker 1: name tag here now, but he comes. He comes up
Speaker 1: and says, Hi, Bill, how you doing. I'm like, I'm Eric, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember you. He did the same thing to me
Speaker 1: because he walked by and I might have not. I
Speaker 1: mean he's kind of tall and lost. Lender had his
Speaker 1: boys with him, and yeah, he did the same thing.
Speaker 1: I post a question in Nate yesterday was on their
Speaker 1: show Hanging with the Boys and see if you agree
Speaker 1: with this, asked Nate. We had a caller call in
Speaker 1: and kind of talk about the offensive line. Color wanted
Speaker 1: to know what current Cowboy offensive lineman could have played
Speaker 1: on their offensive line has been a starter and what
Speaker 1: do you think. Nate's answer was, who what? What Cowboy
Speaker 1: player on this current line does he feel like could
Speaker 1: have been on one of the starting five on his
Speaker 1: Super Bowl line? Nate calls Zack Martin the president, Right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess Nate said, Zach could have taken his job. No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not Wait so which guy five could play? No? No,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, what guy on this curl? The
Speaker 1: cowboy current five could have been a starter on the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl five? Wow, that's a heck of a question. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, Nate answered it, and I was just gonna
Speaker 1: I'd see if you guys wanted, answer would be go
Speaker 1: to Tyron Smith. But it is Tyron Smith. He would
Speaker 1: have taken t Smith. Well that's the first thing. But
Speaker 1: he but he would have replaced Mark Tuine And he says,
Speaker 1: you know, but he you know, when it came down,
Speaker 1: I asked him about what about Travis Frederick? You know
Speaker 1: it's center. He says, nah, step h, No, Wow, he
Speaker 1: was Adam and even you know he was Nate was
Speaker 1: trying hard to answer the question. I mean, it really
Speaker 1: took him back. Nate had himself above the president. Oh well,
Speaker 1: Nate was taking himself out of that. That's a good answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he but he so like he he felt like
Speaker 1: that Tyrant Smith could have been the guy and he
Speaker 1: and the only really he says, and it was tough.
Speaker 1: He says, maybe two maybe two. He goes, I'm not
Speaker 1: going there fully, but if I had to say, who
Speaker 1: could be off this line? And I was, I mean,
Speaker 1: he went through a lot of whys and why not.
Speaker 1: It's a really good show if you want to go
Speaker 1: back on Dallas Cowboys. If you looked at it from
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith's standpoint, he's he's much more talent than Mark
Speaker 1: two and a ever was right right, and Tyrn Smith
Speaker 1: has got the same um destroying instant demeanor as yeah demeanor,
Speaker 1: thank you destroying Actually today I'm kind That's what. That's
Speaker 1: what made two and Yeah. He was a tough So
Speaker 1: that's if you were in an alley William, But if
Speaker 1: you were in an alley fight, you wanted to see
Speaker 1: with you, that's what That's what That's why Hey, that's
Speaker 1: why Nate had. He was saying we were a different line,
Speaker 1: and we were talking Tony he goes, we were different.
Speaker 1: We wanted to maul people. These guys are athletes, he goes.
Speaker 1: We just wanted We just were gonna find a way
Speaker 1: to maul you the whole game. We weren't worried about
Speaker 1: getting in space and second level and all that. We
Speaker 1: were just going to find a way to mash you
Speaker 1: and but I found it interesting. That's cool. It was
Speaker 1: a great, great question by one of the listeners out there.
Speaker 1: So he's including so that was for maybe he wasn't
Speaker 1: talking about the Larry Allen. Larry Allen, Oh no, he
Speaker 1: So you're talking an offensive line because of course Larry
Speaker 1: Allen came in the middle of that, right, and so
Speaker 1: because you had John Geesick in there. So he's he's
Speaker 1: looking at an offensive line. If you had to take
Speaker 1: the best offensive line from that area, right, you got
Speaker 1: two and a Larry Allen, Stepanowski, Nate and Eric Williams.
Speaker 1: Williams right about Eric Williams only was ninety two, ninety
Speaker 1: three and part of ninety four, and after his accident
Speaker 1: he wasn't but still n Nate's like, he's talking about
Speaker 1: the nastiness of that line, and he points the finger
Speaker 1: at Eric Williams as that's the guy, that's the guy
Speaker 1: that you know, you know what, I'm smiling. Because it
Speaker 1: was the O nine season. There was a very popular
Speaker 1: national columnist I'm not going to mention his name, who
Speaker 1: is a training camp in San Antonio and he was
Speaker 1: comparing the nine offensive line. Maybe he's going into the
Speaker 1: twenty tents probably was a twenty ten season, coming off
Speaker 1: a decent year at oh nine, okay, and he was
Speaker 1: comparing that cowboy offensive line with the offensive line in
Speaker 1: the nineties, and I made the same face Mickey's making
Speaker 1: right now, I'll just winsy. But it got a lot
Speaker 1: to run in the training camp that year, and I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa hold on, hold your horses, all right,
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Speaker 1: us on this Thursday. Cowboys practice this afternoon. They'll do
Speaker 1: be doing probably some yoga out here today. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: they may bring their walk through. I think this is
Speaker 1: probably a special team, special team walking yoga going on.
Speaker 1: Why are you shaking your head? I saw the yoga
Speaker 1: lady walking past. Yeah, she was here sorrow last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: time for they bring towels out there. You spend half
Speaker 1: your NFL career on the ground and they're gonna worry
Speaker 1: about laying down there you're yoga. You're a bad NFL
Speaker 1: player if you're on the ground a lot. They're protecting
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, yeah, maybe do they take their shoes off?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't think so, Okay, I don't. Well,
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Speaker 1: ridiculous other day that we had with five yoga questions
Speaker 1: right on. You're part of that too, because I'm a
Speaker 1: TV guy. We're doing a story on different Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a visual five yoga questions. Well, I oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I've done yoga myself. And you know what happened with
Speaker 1: Jason with Jason said my name. I got a text
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Speaker 1: probably run it again. The coach knows who our guy
Speaker 1: is exactly. He doesn't show I mean I would hope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, nine seven two The number to call Nebbie
Speaker 1: and Silver Spring Maryland. You are on talking cowboys. Uh
Speaker 1: um hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I have
Speaker 1: two quick questions. One what uh uh uh what position
Speaker 1: battle or position battles as the case, maybe have I
Speaker 1: have been the best in training camp so far? And two?
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh? Who is more likely uh to be
Speaker 1: uh to to be our starting uh uh? I tight
Speaker 1: end when we play in Carolina on opening day, Jeff
Speaker 1: Swam or Blake? Uh uh? Darwin? I take care, thanks
Speaker 1: for being patient with me, and have a great week. Bye.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Nebby two great questions. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: position battles. I'll go with um. I like the way
Speaker 1: this receiver battle shaping up, honestly, uh not? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: We know Beasley and Tavon are gonna get their share
Speaker 1: of snaps. It looks like. But Michael Gallup put on
Speaker 1: a show yesterday. He was outstanding. He's had a couple
Speaker 1: of days in camp already where you're like, wow, I
Speaker 1: mean he's got a lie. I was yesterday. I was
Speaker 1: one that Oh yeah, this guy's got it making catches.
Speaker 1: You know. Sanjay Law talked about his wide catch radius
Speaker 1: the other day and he showed it yesterday. He made
Speaker 1: catches on the ground on the sideline, dive in for balls. Um,
Speaker 1: he's got the right make up too, He's got him,
Speaker 1: he's got all the tools. Um. Uh, Brian, I know
Speaker 1: you wrote about Deontay Thompson. He's showing things out there too.
Speaker 1: There's there's receivers that have Terrice Williams had a nice
Speaker 1: day yesterday. Receivers had had a good day yesterday. The
Speaker 1: other positions, you're well, I think the one that has
Speaker 1: more uh guys battling than maybe available spots is gonna
Speaker 1: be defensive end. And we're getting ready to add another
Speaker 1: guide to it here in a couple of days. And
Speaker 1: we should explain the Randy Gregory thing. If you hear
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett yesterday, Uh, he is active now, he's they
Speaker 1: can't he came off in FI and basically four now anyway,
Speaker 1: that is just an opportunity to get him out here
Speaker 1: in the morning, walk through on the grass, as they say,
Speaker 1: and that so that he can do what essentially a
Speaker 1: skull session stuff here and then he will advance and
Speaker 1: at some point he'll move to the put the pads
Speaker 1: on and and we'll just see what the what the
Speaker 1: timetable is? You know? And I guess we have to
Speaker 1: qualify what battle is? Are you battling for a starting job?
Speaker 1: Are you battling for a spot on the team. But
Speaker 1: there's more defensive ends that can fit on this team.
Speaker 1: You add Randy Gregory to it, and a couple of
Speaker 1: guys better be careful because they're opening the door. Charles
Speaker 1: Tappers has an illness now, so he's not practicing tackle.
Speaker 1: Charlton's got a shoulder, he's not practice sing. So suddenly,
Speaker 1: you know, Cony Ealy's getting more reps than he normally
Speaker 1: would with the first team. Uh if they sit down
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence and then there's a couple of guys
Speaker 1: coming from afar this Uh, how do you say it?
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, he's been getting more reps. And it was funny.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I was on the field talking with Campo. Uh,
Speaker 1: Clancy came by and that was his guy from Southern Cow.
Speaker 1: So he's talking to him and Jerry comes by and
Speaker 1: he looks at it and he goes, yeah, your guys,
Speaker 1: he's showing up. Da da Edie. Eddie tells the kid
Speaker 1: don't let up, and Antoine Woods goes and I think
Speaker 1: he called him coach. I don't and he said, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, and I said, good answer, right,
Speaker 1: But who knows who? Antoine Woods is right, but he's
Speaker 1: getting an opportunity. So those guys get hurt and they
Speaker 1: get off the field, they're opening a door for somebody else.
Speaker 1: And then here comes Randy. I agree. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm still sticking to no sooner than Saturday, and
Speaker 1: it might be Monday before he puts the pads on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, those guys better watch out there because they
Speaker 1: got a battle on their hands. This is gonna sound crazy,
Speaker 1: but I still think this Mike linebacker situation is worth
Speaker 1: watching because you're starting to see Layton Vanderish play a
Speaker 1: lot more. And and I don't think that Jalen Smith's
Speaker 1: gonna go away. I think that he's gonna find you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be super competitive. He has been, He's overcome
Speaker 1: a lot. I think there is a little bit of
Speaker 1: a battle there now. Maybe it means but also Damian
Speaker 1: Wilson hasn't been terrible either playing the Sam linebacker, and
Speaker 1: so you know you got to think about, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: gonna move Jalen Smith over to Sam linebacker, give him
Speaker 1: some work over there. When a guy like Damian Wilson
Speaker 1: has actually played pretty well, I don't think that I've
Speaker 1: seen anything to make me think that that Damian Wilson
Speaker 1: deserves just to be, you know, thrown to the side.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to training camp, Dalta. Yeah, he I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about that. I think I think overall,
Speaker 1: when you talk about blitzen and attacking the pocket and
Speaker 1: playing the run, I think Damian Wilson's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: So I'm still keeping it on that mic linebacker spot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a spot I'm kind of worried
Speaker 1: about right now, and it's not so much the defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen great things from Cam Fleming. I have
Speaker 1: not seen great things from him. I've seen kind of
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty player. I haven't seen great things from
Speaker 1: Chaz Green. He's been a little bit of fifty fifty player.
Speaker 1: The one guy that's kind of shown up is this
Speaker 1: Jacob Campos, this number sixty three. They worked him on
Speaker 1: the left side, the right side. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: guy I watched from Iowa State. He was a slow footed,
Speaker 1: really a non mobile, non strong guy at Iowa State.
Speaker 1: But he's come here. You know. It might be the
Speaker 1: fact that he was here after the draft. He's working out,
Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere, and he's worked on some things and
Speaker 1: kind of gotten a little bit better. But this backup
Speaker 1: tackle spot, this swing spot that Mickey and we all
Speaker 1: like to talk about. I don't know how much real
Speaker 1: confidence I have and Cam Fleming right now, and if
Speaker 1: and if even if if Chad's Green had just shown
Speaker 1: up a little bit better. I know we all have
Speaker 1: our thoughts about Chads Green. And I'm sure the fans
Speaker 1: out there, like broad Us, you're you know, put put
Speaker 1: the pipe down, you know that kind of stuff. But Gatorade,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that that that there's there
Speaker 1: should be some concern about that spot right now because
Speaker 1: they haven't got the consistency from the position yet that
Speaker 1: I thought that they were going to get when they plug.
Speaker 1: When they plug, Cam Fleming in there to do some
Speaker 1: work and I'm I'm with Brian on that, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now Marcus Martin is a concern to
Speaker 1: the other free agents. There you go, he's off on
Speaker 1: the side working when better than Marcus Martin and anderstanding.
Speaker 1: They weren't, but there was some idea. But he showed
Speaker 1: my understanding as he showed up overweight and he's gained weight,
Speaker 1: grossly overweight. And so they're working them on the side
Speaker 1: when there's some other drills going on with the offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: just so he's not standing around and trying to get
Speaker 1: him back in big man camp. So the backup guard
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, you're probably keeping Joe Looney to
Speaker 1: be the swing guard center, but you need a full
Speaker 1: time backup guard. And Brian's right edwards hasn't been bad,
Speaker 1: no cademan, is it? Is it pretty with the way
Speaker 1: he plays, no feed all over the place. Yes, he's strong, No,
Speaker 1: but the problem that they're running into they've got. They
Speaker 1: could talk about the five they've got, but okay, other
Speaker 1: than Joe Looney, I'm I'm not just totally shot in
Speaker 1: the rear about some of these guys. Through eight days
Speaker 1: of doing this or not how many member days we've
Speaker 1: been doing this. I wish that there was one of
Speaker 1: those guys would have just stepped up and said, I'm
Speaker 1: the swing tackle. This is what I'm gonna do. You
Speaker 1: can rely on me. They haven't had Yeah, didn't and
Speaker 1: again the best the guy has been best is number
Speaker 1: sixty three if you see him, which is has been
Speaker 1: Jacob Campos. All right. The other question Debbie had was
Speaker 1: about tight end. Who would who would be your starting
Speaker 1: tight end? I'm gonna say plural. At Carolina September ninth,
Speaker 1: they'll come out with too tight end office. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen any reason why Jeff Swain doesn't have that job yet.
Speaker 1: I think jar One's good. Yeah, I think he needs
Speaker 1: to be maybe a little bit better blocker. But when
Speaker 1: they go too tight, it's him and jar One. Schultz
Speaker 1: is on the move, but I don't know how soon
Speaker 1: that'll take place. Did one of you guys say this
Speaker 1: the other day about Jarwin might allow them to do
Speaker 1: what they hope to do with Escobar and Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: I think you could put them. You could put him
Speaker 1: with Swain in some two tight some twelve personnel and
Speaker 1: use jar One as a pass catcher at it Because
Speaker 1: should he beat that ball yesterday? Yes, it was, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little long. Well, he did make a
Speaker 1: nice reception knowing the corner on the one on one.
Speaker 1: He was the only tight end that when they went
Speaker 1: red zone one on one dbs and wide receivers. Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin took a rep against Duke Thomas. I'm sure Duke
Speaker 1: Thomas looked up and goes eighty nine, I have not
Speaker 1: seen you all camp? Who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 1: You know? And the ball went right over the top
Speaker 1: and Jarwin, I mean perfect extension lay you know, put
Speaker 1: the hands out, ballets on the hands. So they're obviously
Speaker 1: thinking that Jarwin could be I'll tell you this, this
Speaker 1: is when this is when you're just scouting, you kind
Speaker 1: of look at things. Philadelphia, I feel like, has a
Speaker 1: really good understanding of their tight ends and the kind
Speaker 1: of tight ends they want to play in the athletes
Speaker 1: that they use. It tests something when Philadelphia goes after
Speaker 1: a guy like Blake Jarwin, because you can kind of
Speaker 1: see some of the things that Philadelphia does with their
Speaker 1: tight ends down the field. You can see that in
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, and I can understand why, Hey, they they
Speaker 1: evaluate him, they tried to poach him, Cowboys make a
Speaker 1: smart play to keep him because my humble opinion, he
Speaker 1: has been the best tied end they've had in camp
Speaker 1: so far. So and I and I did this in
Speaker 1: my mind, Gosh, I'm messed up. I was laying in bed,
Speaker 1: and it's like I was thinking about the wide receivers right,
Speaker 1: and I was going, Okay, give me the top six
Speaker 1: and I and I could give you my top five.
Speaker 1: Where did you stop at six? Who'd you stop? So? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I did? I did? Terrence Williams, Hearns, Beasley, Thompson,
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. Okay, Now who's the next guy? You forgot? Gallup?
Speaker 1: Did you say gallop? Oh? And gallop? That I did?
Speaker 1: You're set. I'm set. I'm six. Now what if I
Speaker 1: wanted seven? Who? I mean? Who would who? Mentioned? Is
Speaker 1: there anybody else to challenge? Yeah? He's made play? And
Speaker 1: then and then McKay, yeah you know six? Four? Wow?
Speaker 1: You know what? See this is what I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't understand why Noah Brown was on the roster last year.
Speaker 1: This is what's gonna happen. This is what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: to get hurt. You know, we'll see Keith o quinn.
Speaker 1: This is gonna see where where where Rich Basaccia had
Speaker 1: a big stick in that meeting room where he was
Speaker 1: able to hit people over the head with it when
Speaker 1: you know he wanted a player We're gonna see if
Speaker 1: Keith o quinn has enough juice to get Noah Brown
Speaker 1: on this roster. You know that as primarily a special
Speaker 1: special team who can help blocking the game, which means
Speaker 1: he's not just on the fifty three, he's on theme.
Speaker 1: But but I've got more linebackers now that can take
Speaker 1: up that spot. Joe Thomas can play. Don't you think
Speaker 1: absolutely Joe Thomas could played. Joe Thomas could play, marsh
Speaker 1: Lillard can play, Bamian Wilson's gonna have to play. Vander
Speaker 1: ash has been out there. Team. Maybe I don't need
Speaker 1: a wide receiver to be a coverage guy. See this.
Speaker 1: I like guys that are paid to tackle to be coverage. Okay,
Speaker 1: When when Lenahan runs his packages where he brings a
Speaker 1: wide receiver in motion and stops him on the edge,
Speaker 1: who does he usually do that with? And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to trick you here, I'm just trying to when
Speaker 1: you watch us, when you watch the Cowboys, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Terrence Williams, right, Okay? Does okay? Now? Does Terrence
Speaker 1: Williams to me? And I'm cheerleading for Terrence Williams because
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play with a chip on his shoulder,
Speaker 1: and he actually showed some good things. But would they
Speaker 1: sacrifice Terrence Williams to keep Noah Brown on this team?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I think you've got to have, you gotta.
Speaker 1: I just think you gotta feel good about a receiver
Speaker 1: group for Dak Prescott first. I think you gotta find
Speaker 1: guys that he trusts and will use first, and then
Speaker 1: figure out who can help you on on special terms.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't thank that move. I'd find the
Speaker 1: first receiver first, the best receiver. When you're talking about
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams not being on this team, would it be
Speaker 1: as a is there trade value for Terrence Williams? See
Speaker 1: that Terrence Williams didn't have it. He he got to
Speaker 1: free agency. Am I correct about that? You know he
Speaker 1: signed a big free but the people had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to go get Terrence was. I think we have to
Speaker 1: be real careful about Oh, people want our players. I
Speaker 1: think you have to be careful about that. I think
Speaker 1: there's certain guys on this team that you could trade
Speaker 1: and have trade value with. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: if necessarily that Terrence Williams with the off field stuff
Speaker 1: with if you watch that disappeared, Yeah, and that's news today,
Speaker 1: that's good news. But if you watch his tape is
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams? Would you consider Terrence Williams a two? Would
Speaker 1: you consider him a three? You consider him a four?
Speaker 1: What if he's a four? Is he? Is he a
Speaker 1: better for than Bryce Butler? Oh? I think so? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But that's what you got Thompson for Thompson's you're better
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler. I think Thompson's gonna fit in there. And
Speaker 1: where's Thompson on your list? Now? Is he three or four?
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't think there's gonna be any numbers.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have six guys. They're gonna go.
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Speaker 1: do have a They do have a lead dog in
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Speaker 1: are I forgot my watch today. I looked at by
Speaker 1: a wrist and my watches. That's it. I can count
Speaker 1: on one finger how many times I have forgotten by
Speaker 1: a watch this. I think it's your first time number
Speaker 1: of years i've I've lost it or I haven't lost it,
Speaker 1: I just forgot it. Uh. It is forty five minutes
Speaker 1: away from yoga out here on the practice field. Mickey's
Speaker 1: fired up for that. I'm sure Bill's fired up because
Speaker 1: he's getting to get another question in today about yoga.
Speaker 1: I promise I won't. I might ask Dak about yoga,
Speaker 1: but I'm not asking you. I watched this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look over Bill and how you doing guys? Okay, I
Speaker 1: was gonna give yeah where Yeah, if you hear, if
Speaker 1: you were from Rogue one, you know exactly what's going on. Okay.
Speaker 1: We buried the lead. By the way, we had a
Speaker 1: bad day asking questions yesterday. We buried the lead. Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory had moved into the walkthrough walk through right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's off of NFI. That's good. Uh, And I
Speaker 1: know somebody's gonna say how did he look? Well, it's
Speaker 1: a walk through right throw the pool, but you know,
Speaker 1: look good with those defensive ends missing. He actually got
Speaker 1: a snapper two. He physically would looks good and you
Speaker 1: know what, he sounds good. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys were a part he stood on. He's not doing
Speaker 1: any interviews, he was. He just he shot the bull
Speaker 1: with everybody and he said, hey, look you can't film it,
Speaker 1: you can't record it. I I'll get in trouble notes.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk basically until um right until he
Speaker 1: puts the pads on. But he seemed very comfortable. So
Speaker 1: Becky's going to proceed to tell us everything he told. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm an easy story because he seemed very calm, very
Speaker 1: at ease with himself and a little bit more mature.
Speaker 1: And he was telling somebody asking him about having a
Speaker 1: I don't know, his daughter's what three three years old?
Speaker 1: And so you know, right away I think it was
Speaker 1: Clarence giving him. You know, it's like, oh you got
Speaker 1: a daughter now, hahnah, how's that gonna work out? You know?
Speaker 1: And and he goes, yeah, yeah, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: he goes, I'll probably have you know, he was talking
Speaker 1: about being a very protective father, which she gets older,
Speaker 1: right and uh, and it's like, yeah, welcome to the club,
Speaker 1: because this is life's revenge. You know, you have a
Speaker 1: daughter and Bill knows right, he had three, right, three three,
Speaker 1: And so he was talking about it and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes and this is what I just hate.
Speaker 1: He goes, my mother used to tell me all this
Speaker 1: different stuff, right, and I used to get so mad
Speaker 1: at her, And now that this has happened, he goes,
Speaker 1: she was right about everything she told me, you know.
Speaker 1: And and it's like, I'm not quoting or anything, but
Speaker 1: it was the story of he's he's kind of growing
Speaker 1: up a little bit and I think he's realizing things
Speaker 1: and maybe that helps him. Okay, So we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit the other day about what we thought the
Speaker 1: timetable might be. Now, what do you think the timetable
Speaker 1: is the Only thing Jason Garrett would say in the
Speaker 1: press conference as far as the timetable is is they
Speaker 1: expect him to play in are in the preseason at
Speaker 1: some point. I mean, the way he said it yesterday,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if he didn't practice until after
Speaker 1: they got back from San Francisco. But you never missed
Speaker 1: that much time. But you never know. I know, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I jump. I know you want to see him sooner
Speaker 1: than today, and we could yeah today. I'm just it's
Speaker 1: the I know, maybe maybe maybe we see him beginning
Speaker 1: of next week. I think. I think the beginning of
Speaker 1: next week he can go Monday, Tuesday, take Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: Friday off and then get back at it. Yeah, Monday's
Speaker 1: an afternoon practice and then a Tuesday morning practice, right matter, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because Tuesday is gonna be and
Speaker 1: you won't have a Friday before. See, I was trying
Speaker 1: to get him to the Blue White game. I was trying,
Speaker 1: I think, and I know, and that's that's that is.
Speaker 1: I'm a selfish about think about a guy that's been out.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, you're with an injury. They do.
Speaker 1: There are two three days. I used to be, I'm here,
Speaker 1: then individual and then you get him in teen. You
Speaker 1: said it the other day. It's not just the last
Speaker 1: eighteen months. He missed fourteen games in twenty sixteen. Two
Speaker 1: he has missed basically two years. It's a long time away.
Speaker 1: We got a long term plan that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the roster on September ninth, and they're getting ready
Speaker 1: for September nine. One thing I'll say, just about the
Speaker 1: way he looks. We were on the other field and
Speaker 1: he was a couple of days ago. He was working
Speaker 1: with Woisick Nick thought it was somebody else. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: they working out today? Yeah? Yeah? And he looked almost
Speaker 1: like a tackle at first, his upper body when he
Speaker 1: had really developed when he had. Because I told somebody,
Speaker 1: what a camera? I said, who's that working out over there?
Speaker 1: He goes, it's Gregory. I can't beat Gregory. The guy
Speaker 1: looks too big, right, he's two hundred and forty two pounds.
Speaker 1: That could that be Gregory? All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: Caleb in New York. You're next up here on Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Caleb, how are you? I'm doing well? Good,
Speaker 1: long time listener, first time caller. UM. First off, I
Speaker 1: want to say to brought us than I love the
Speaker 1: work you guys do on the Draft show, and thank you.
Speaker 1: Can't you guys got from CBS. UM, it's very informative
Speaker 1: and listen to it for the last probably or five seasons.
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that. All right, that's enough. Don't go
Speaker 1: off on your minute now, all right? Yeah, all right, Um,
Speaker 1: so you guys already hit. What I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: on is Gregory. But I have a couple of other questions.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about Vander esh and Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything about Sean Lee this season or
Speaker 1: this offseason, how he's doing, how wise and how much
Speaker 1: he's practicing and stuff, um, as well as Uh, I
Speaker 1: have a question about Jordan Lewis because I know they're
Speaker 1: trying to do Byron Jones and Woozy on the outside.
Speaker 1: Are they moving him into the slot? Are they moving uh,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewson to the slot and having him play there
Speaker 1: or is he fighting for that position? Um? And I'll
Speaker 1: listen off. Yeah, thank you, thank you. September ninth, Carolina.
Speaker 1: That's the master plan for him as well. Yeah, if if,
Speaker 1: if we're if you don't hear a lot about somebody,
Speaker 1: it's because we're not gonna make stuff up. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not practicing, right, it's hard to it's hard to
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to talk about a guy that
Speaker 1: doesn't practice. How much do you think he will practice
Speaker 1: out here? I think he won't practice. To me, I
Speaker 1: think that it will. It will come down to I
Speaker 1: think he'll miss another whole week. The San Francisco is
Speaker 1: just they're they're really the concern with him is wear
Speaker 1: and tear. Yeah that he always says that they trying
Speaker 1: they're trying to protect me from myself, you know. And
Speaker 1: he'll play in the Arizona preseason game. I think when
Speaker 1: we start to get back towards Dallas. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: you'll see him. You know, I see him have a
Speaker 1: couple of opportunities, maybe one preseason game, sit out the
Speaker 1: Houston game. But I just don't I just get a
Speaker 1: two weeks before the regular season over right. See. It's
Speaker 1: funny they they they're practicing him like I would maybe
Speaker 1: consider practicing Tyrant Smith. You know. That just shows you
Speaker 1: the value that they think of. Like, okay, well maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we really have to protect this because one of
Speaker 1: the things with Tyrant Smith. Want you want Tyrant Smith
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams to work together. Yeah, they don't have
Speaker 1: anybody playing backup. Right, He'll take a couple of snaps
Speaker 1: and then he's out tiring, right, Yeah, flaming we've seen.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we know so much about Fleming. Now, well,
Speaker 1: it's just the guy's knees. I don't know, you're, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to disagree with you here. You guys are
Speaker 1: sometimes he gets the job done and sometimes you do.
Speaker 1: I said he was a fifty fifty player. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't need a fifty fifty player. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: if I want a fifty fifty guy, well maybe twenty
Speaker 1: five guy would be the Chadscreen. I just want somebody.
Speaker 1: I want somebody to make me feel really good that okay,
Speaker 1: we're not missing a beat here. You know, you say
Speaker 1: what you want about that kid that went to Jacksonville went, uh,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell, Parnell, And I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, and he's still playing. I'm saying Parnell when
Speaker 1: when someone happened to free or something like, oh it's
Speaker 1: Parnell and then oh wow he's not playing bad. Oh
Speaker 1: he's okay. Oh you know so. But you I just
Speaker 1: me personally, I want that feeling of okay, if something happens, yes,
Speaker 1: right there, that's my guy, and I'm not feeling that yet.
Speaker 1: And we're you're right, You're you're the you're the ultimate.
Speaker 1: Give it time. Give it time be patient. The other
Speaker 1: problem with that, it's so hard around the league to
Speaker 1: find to find tackles that there's not tackles available out
Speaker 1: there either. I'll tell you say and you can say, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I can tell you Chaz Green against Atlanta,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes he was good, four times he wasn't yeh,
Speaker 1: and he ruined the gage rather glaring too. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't every snapt Yeah, you great him sixty five
Speaker 1: plays that they play great and sixty of them. What
Speaker 1: happened the other five, Well, we had two sacks, two pressures,
Speaker 1: and our quarterbacks now on ir you know that that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of where you don't. I'm just looking for
Speaker 1: I'm looking for somebody to step in there and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I could do this job. Don't worry about me blocking today.
Speaker 1: And Caleb also asked about Jordan Lewis. He's working in
Speaker 1: the lot, he's challenging with Anthony Brown working second team.
Speaker 1: Brown's working for a game. Yeah, and I think both
Speaker 1: of them are playing pretty well. If to Nebbi's question,
Speaker 1: that might be a position battle right there as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that was what I looked at. And
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking, you know, and poor Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes from being like, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he has to play in that Denver game week two,
Speaker 1: to play in the whole year. He was the first
Speaker 1: of the young guys to get the opportunity, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't terrible. He was part of that the three starting
Speaker 1: corner and then rookies last year at the end of
Speaker 1: the year that went team went four and one, and
Speaker 1: then a new new secondary coach comes in. It's like, hmm,
Speaker 1: I'd rather see Byron Jones play that spot. And now
Speaker 1: you're like, you don't see him getting as mini reps
Speaker 1: with the one second team. Yeah, a second team guy,
Speaker 1: which to Byron Jones credit though he's been outstanding. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe a guy with some value there if you're interested
Speaker 1: in doing something, you know, maybe if you're hey, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna move on from somebody, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think you get an injury and you'll go, why
Speaker 1: did I do with you? But but he was he
Speaker 1: was asking, he was asking a question about value of
Speaker 1: a player. Oh, okay, Nickel corners are hard to come
Speaker 1: by in this league, trust me. And and so you're
Speaker 1: talking about value of a player. Which player you talking about? Brown?
Speaker 1: If something were to happen Anthew Brown. I got him
Speaker 1: on that one. And these are conversations that go on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes here. Yeah, if something were to happen
Speaker 1: to Cheeto, who plays left corner, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it's a Brown, It's
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, It's Brown, and then training him. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you got Lewis inside. So what there's nothing wrong?
Speaker 1: What happened? Like four? Give me six of those guys?
Speaker 1: Mickey's a keep all his chips kind of get yes, No,
Speaker 1: he just would move from Anthony Brown. He just said
Speaker 1: he no, I joke, kid, Well you go ahead. Thought
Speaker 1: of Bill. He give with it like like like the guy,
Speaker 1: you know, like the gift the guy. And then I'm
Speaker 1: wanting w Yeah. Yeah, and then I'm one injury away
Speaker 1: from Duke Thomas Plan. Okay, so now here's the here's
Speaker 1: the next question. No, Lumba, I'm not Lumba by you
Speaker 1: know what his nickname is. They call him Sherman A
Speaker 1: Lumba the dreads thirty two Sherman, Yeah, because of because
Speaker 1: his dreads the way he looks, how long he is
Speaker 1: that was listen does listen to Jaileen Smith? And they
Speaker 1: asked him a question, Hey, who are you impressed out there?
Speaker 1: Give me somebody you're impressed with, and he goes Sherman. Sherman,
Speaker 1: You're like, looking at the Sherman. I'm like, Sherman. He goes,
Speaker 1: you know the kid thirty two draads. He looks like
Speaker 1: he looks like Sherman. I'm like, I get it now,
Speaker 1: Yeah he does too, by the way, Richard Sherman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's a guy to look for the preseason. See
Speaker 1: that's I'm saying though. Yeah, if you're asking me of
Speaker 1: the of a guy that can maybe sneak on the
Speaker 1: fifty three, not count the count the six right now,
Speaker 1: six six of them six four sixty four. Okay, well
Speaker 1: two guys slot that's four. Yeah, I don't dude, this
Speaker 1: way go off this no, no, I gotta here right here,
Speaker 1: right here, off here. If you go for okay, you
Speaker 1: got a Woozier starting, you got Byron Jones starting right,
Speaker 1: that's two. You're starting slot is and you're starting slot
Speaker 1: will be now. But and you got and then Lewis
Speaker 1: and then that's four. Now you have to think about Okay,
Speaker 1: is it gonna come down to five? It's Thomas Thomas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those guys, and right now, I would
Speaker 1: I would, I would take a lumba over all those
Speaker 1: guys of the Duke Thomas's of the world and Marque
Speaker 1: and Marquez White. Yeah, so you got him? Is your
Speaker 1: fifth corner right right right now? Dude? Yeah? Yeah, very interesting?
Speaker 1: All right? So aside from we obviously think the ranks
Speaker 1: are thin and that defensive tackle we talked about that
Speaker 1: other alarming, alarming pensive tackle. Yeah, that was my question. Sorry,
Speaker 1: what got the answers? The position, which is the position
Speaker 1: that you're most concerned about depth, Seeing they still haven't
Speaker 1: got Cavon Frasier on the floor. See, I would say
Speaker 1: safety and defensive tackle without cave On there, that's an
Speaker 1: issue too. We don't although I mean I've heard this before,
Speaker 1: but I heard the tests should be back today. I
Speaker 1: don't know that day. These guys must be on vacation.
Speaker 1: They're down in Newport Beach or something. Grade the blood
Speaker 1: what are you doing? They did it in a case
Speaker 1: here in nineteen ninety four at one time. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: very famous cases. So but you know, but even with
Speaker 1: him that that's what is that? That's four guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's safety. Yeah is it three? See, it's four because
Speaker 1: if they use they're having to use cam Kelly and
Speaker 1: guys like that. Yeah, that's where that's where this is
Speaker 1: kind of going. So I I they got huff, they
Speaker 1: got Kelly, they've been using him, they got Ye Robinson,
Speaker 1: they've been using they've been using Showers. Showers been out there.
Speaker 1: Hewers made a play off, So Showers right now would
Speaker 1: be behind if if if we assume Frasier makes it,
Speaker 1: Showers is fourth. I think Kem Kelly and those other guys,
Speaker 1: I think. I think huffs forth or huffs forth, huts
Speaker 1: forth a Showers, Yeah, okay, I think so. I you know,
Speaker 1: Jimie Showers, I love you, I really do. But I
Speaker 1: just don't, you know, I don't see it. I just
Speaker 1: don't see it. He's out of practice squad eligibility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gotta be or twelve years. A good story on
Speaker 1: cam Kelly working for Red Yeah that guy yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Branch the trucks truck. Yeah, well spoken kid too, Yeah
Speaker 1: from Wiley yep. San Diego State played corner for three
Speaker 1: years then safety at San Diego state. Yeah, they try
Speaker 1: to make corner here initially and it didn't work out
Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, he is a safety. I just wish
Speaker 1: some of these kids, like you said, I mean, hey, Alumba,
Speaker 1: he's he's stepping up and making plays. I mean they
Speaker 1: throw him out there. Robinson has done some stuff and
Speaker 1: coverage that I've seen, you know, not great because why
Speaker 1: Marquez White, I just don't. I just don't see it
Speaker 1: with him. I just I know he's got the length
Speaker 1: and the range, and they talk about him. I just
Speaker 1: seek I talk about a fifty fifty player. I see
Speaker 1: times where he's in position, other times where they've spun
Speaker 1: him around. I see Christier Schard over there. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got to turn, you gotta play with your eyes,
Speaker 1: you got. I mean, there's so many things he's trying
Speaker 1: to tell him, so many things at once, and it
Speaker 1: just he hasn't been able to put really everything all together.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, is ultimately gonna get
Speaker 1: That should be our next list unknown young guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that have a chance to make this next time. Young guys.
Speaker 1: There you go, Well, that was one of them. If
Speaker 1: they ever get posted. So we will see you tomorrow
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