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Speaker 1: here on the practice field in Oxnard, California. As this

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Speaker 1: eleven for me today. Yeah, start continues. You you're doing great.

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Speaker 1: it seems like you drove from Texas here, Mickey. In

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Speaker 1: honor of a TCU's first day of practice, this is

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Speaker 1: Make me thank you very much. It could be LSU.

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Speaker 1: It could be LSU. That's exactly right. It could be

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Speaker 1: Kansas State. We're gonna go through every team, every team,

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Speaker 1: and I go ahead and say Northwestern wire at it,

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings too, all right, And it is a

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Speaker 1: big day for the local TV types here because the

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Speaker 1: DAK car wash is today. There you go after the

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Speaker 1: morning walk through at eleven thirty. Is that a TV

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Speaker 1: term car wash? It's I like it. I just never

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Speaker 1: heard of it. It's a I guess ESPN is the

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Speaker 1: they'll do all of that. And they do that I

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Speaker 1: think with some NFL types too. But anyway, for and

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Speaker 1: so I will see listen questions for Dak Prescott because

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Speaker 1: I've got to sit down with him like that. I've

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Speaker 1: got a list of questions. But if there's something out

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Speaker 1: from you gentlemen too, if you have any suggestions, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what he thinks about the anthem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he sorry told you that, hedn't he? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Now to stop people from trying to ask, now the

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Speaker 1: pressure from my newspeople. But sure, now you gotta ask him,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the reaction to your anthem opinions?

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Speaker 1: So that's probably a question I'll have to ask today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what football question do you have? That? That's what I

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Speaker 1: would like football questions? Um, Because on Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: Com and we were talking about we all were a

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Speaker 1: part of a twenty questions thing and talking about pressure

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Speaker 1: What's the pressure? Though? The pressure is to do what?

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Speaker 1: So what do you have to do to do that?

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Speaker 1: He's got to have tunnel vision on what's hell? There's

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Speaker 1: put yourself in his shoes. Okay, he makes four hundred

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Speaker 1: I feel pressure every night to sit down and write

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Speaker 1: That's how I think Dak probably approaches it. But I

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Speaker 1: us on this Thursday. Cowboys practice this afternoon. They'll do

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Speaker 1: be doing probably some yoga out here today. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: they may bring their walk through. I think this is

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Speaker 1: probably a special team, special team walking yoga going on.

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Speaker 1: Why are you shaking your head? I saw the yoga

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Speaker 1: time for they bring towels out there. You spend half

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Speaker 1: your NFL career on the ground and they're gonna worry

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Speaker 1: about laying down there you're yoga. You're a bad NFL

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Speaker 1: player if you're on the ground a lot. They're protecting

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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, yeah, maybe do they take their shoes off?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't think so, Okay, I don't. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on it too. Yeah, you scout

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Speaker 1: ridiculous other day that we had with five yoga questions

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Speaker 1: right on. You're part of that too, because I'm a

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Speaker 1: TV guy. We're doing a story on different Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a visual five yoga questions. Well, I oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: probably run it again. The coach knows who our guy

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Speaker 1: is exactly. He doesn't show I mean I would hope. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, nine seven two The number to call Nebbie

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Speaker 1: um hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I have

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Speaker 1: two quick questions. One what uh uh uh what position

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Speaker 1: Uh uh uh? Who is more likely uh to be

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Speaker 1: Swam or Blake? Uh uh? Darwin? I take care, thanks

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Nebby two great questions. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: position battles. I'll go with um. I like the way

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Speaker 1: this receiver battle shaping up, honestly, uh not? Maybe not?

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Speaker 1: We know Beasley and Tavon are gonna get their share

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Speaker 1: of snaps. It looks like. But Michael Gallup put on

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Speaker 1: a show yesterday. He was outstanding. He's had a couple

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Speaker 1: of days in camp already where you're like, wow, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's got a lie. I was yesterday. I was

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Speaker 1: one that Oh yeah, this guy's got it making catches.

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Speaker 1: You know. Sanjay Law talked about his wide catch radius

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Speaker 1: the other day and he showed it yesterday. He made

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Speaker 1: catches on the ground on the sideline, dive in for balls. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's got the right make up too, He's got him,

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Speaker 1: he's got all the tools. Um. Uh, Brian, I know

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Speaker 1: you wrote about Deontay Thompson. He's showing things out there too.

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Speaker 1: There's there's receivers that have Terrice Williams had a nice

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Speaker 1: day yesterday. Receivers had had a good day yesterday. The

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Speaker 1: other positions, you're well, I think the one that has

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Speaker 1: more uh guys battling than maybe available spots is gonna

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Speaker 1: be defensive end. And we're getting ready to add another

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Speaker 1: guide to it here in a couple of days. And

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Speaker 1: we should explain the Randy Gregory thing. If you hear

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Speaker 1: that is just an opportunity to get him out here

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Speaker 1: in the morning, walk through on the grass, as they say,

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Speaker 1: at some point he'll move to the put the pads

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Speaker 1: on and and we'll just see what the what the

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Speaker 1: timetable is? You know? And I guess we have to

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Speaker 1: qualify what battle is? Are you battling for a starting job?

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Speaker 1: Are you battling for a spot on the team. But

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Speaker 1: there's more defensive ends that can fit on this team.

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Speaker 1: You add Randy Gregory to it, and a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys better be careful because they're opening the door. Charles

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Speaker 1: Tappers has an illness now, so he's not practicing tackle.

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Speaker 1: Charlton's got a shoulder, he's not practice sing. So suddenly,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cony Ealy's getting more reps than he normally

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Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence and then there's a couple of guys

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Speaker 1: coming from afar this Uh, how do you say it?

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Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, he's been getting more reps. And it was funny.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I was on the field talking with Campo. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Clancy came by and that was his guy from Southern Cow.

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Speaker 1: So he's talking to him and Jerry comes by and

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Speaker 1: he's showing up. Da da Edie. Eddie tells the kid

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Speaker 1: don't let up, and Antoine Woods goes and I think

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Speaker 1: he called him coach. I don't and he said, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what that means, and I said, good answer, right,

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Speaker 1: But who knows who? Antoine Woods is right, but he's

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Speaker 1: getting an opportunity. So those guys get hurt and they

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Speaker 1: get off the field, they're opening a door for somebody else.

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Speaker 1: And then here comes Randy. I agree. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm still sticking to no sooner than Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: it might be Monday before he puts the pads on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, those guys better watch out there because they

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Speaker 1: got a battle on their hands. This is gonna sound crazy,

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Speaker 1: but I still think this Mike linebacker situation is worth

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Speaker 1: watching because you're starting to see Layton Vanderish play a

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Speaker 1: lot more. And and I don't think that Jalen Smith's

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Speaker 1: gonna go away. I think that he's gonna find you know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be super competitive. He has been, He's overcome

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think there is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a battle there now. Maybe it means but also Damian

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Speaker 1: Wilson hasn't been terrible either playing the Sam linebacker, and

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Speaker 1: so you know you got to think about, Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna move Jalen Smith over to Sam linebacker, give him

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Speaker 1: some work over there. When a guy like Damian Wilson

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Speaker 1: has actually played pretty well, I don't think that I've

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Speaker 1: seen anything to make me think that that Damian Wilson

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Speaker 1: deserves just to be, you know, thrown to the side.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to training camp, Dalta. Yeah, he I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about that. I think I think overall,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about blitzen and attacking the pocket and

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Speaker 1: playing the run, I think Damian Wilson's been pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So I'm still keeping it on that mic linebacker spot.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a spot I'm kind of worried

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Speaker 1: about right now, and it's not so much the defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen great things from Cam Fleming. I have

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Speaker 1: not seen great things from him. I've seen kind of

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Speaker 1: Chaz Green. He's been a little bit of fifty fifty player.

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Speaker 1: The one guy that's kind of shown up is this

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Speaker 1: Jacob Campos, this number sixty three. They worked him on

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Speaker 1: the left side, the right side. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: guy I watched from Iowa State. He was a slow footed,

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Speaker 1: really a non mobile, non strong guy at Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: But he's come here. You know. It might be the

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Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere, and he's worked on some things and

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Speaker 1: kind of gotten a little bit better. But this backup

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Speaker 1: tackle spot, this swing spot that Mickey and we all

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that that that there's there

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Speaker 1: should be some concern about that spot right now because

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Speaker 1: they haven't got the consistency from the position yet that

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Speaker 1: I thought that they were going to get when they plug.

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Speaker 1: When they plug, Cam Fleming in there to do some

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Speaker 1: work and I'm I'm with Brian on that, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now Marcus Martin is a concern to

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Speaker 1: the other free agents. There you go, he's off on

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Speaker 1: the side working when better than Marcus Martin and anderstanding.

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Speaker 1: They weren't, but there was some idea. But he showed

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Speaker 1: my understanding as he showed up overweight and he's gained weight,

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Speaker 1: grossly overweight. And so they're working them on the side

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Speaker 1: just so he's not standing around and trying to get

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Speaker 1: him back in big man camp. So the backup guard

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Speaker 1: right now, I mean, you're probably keeping Joe Looney to

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Speaker 1: be the swing guard center, but you need a full

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Speaker 1: time backup guard. And Brian's right edwards hasn't been bad,

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Speaker 1: but the problem that they're running into they've got. They

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Speaker 1: the rear about some of these guys. Through eight days

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Speaker 1: been doing this. I wish that there was one of

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Speaker 1: the swing tackle. This is what I'm gonna do. You

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Speaker 1: again the best the guy has been best is number

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Speaker 1: Jacob Campos. All right. The other question Debbie had was

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Speaker 1: about tight end. Who would who would be your starting

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Speaker 1: tight end? I'm gonna say plural. At Carolina September ninth,

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Speaker 1: they'll come out with too tight end office. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen any reason why Jeff Swain doesn't have that job yet.

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Speaker 1: I think jar One's good. Yeah, I think he needs

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Speaker 1: to be maybe a little bit better blocker. But when

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Speaker 1: they go too tight, it's him and jar One. Schultz

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Speaker 1: is on the move, but I don't know how soon

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Speaker 1: that'll take place. Did one of you guys say this

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Speaker 1: the other day about Jarwin might allow them to do

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Speaker 1: what they hope to do with Escobar and Jason Witten.

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Speaker 1: I think you could put them. You could put him

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Speaker 1: with Swain in some two tight some twelve personnel and

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Speaker 1: use jar One as a pass catcher at it Because

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Speaker 1: should he beat that ball yesterday? Yes, it was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a little long. Well, he did make a

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Speaker 1: nice reception knowing the corner on the one on one.

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Speaker 1: He was the only tight end that when they went

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Speaker 1: red zone one on one dbs and wide receivers. Blake

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Speaker 1: Jarwin took a rep against Duke Thomas. I'm sure Duke

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Speaker 1: Thomas looked up and goes eighty nine, I have not

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Speaker 1: seen you all camp? Who are you? Who are you?

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Speaker 1: You know? And the ball went right over the top

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Speaker 1: and Jarwin, I mean perfect extension lay you know, put

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Speaker 1: the hands out, ballets on the hands. So they're obviously

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Speaker 1: thinking that Jarwin could be I'll tell you this, this

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Speaker 1: is when this is when you're just scouting, you kind

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Speaker 1: of look at things. Philadelphia, I feel like, has a

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Speaker 1: really good understanding of their tight ends and the kind

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Speaker 1: of tight ends they want to play in the athletes

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Speaker 1: that they use. It tests something when Philadelphia goes after

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Speaker 1: a guy like Blake Jarwin, because you can kind of

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Speaker 1: see some of the things that Philadelphia does with their

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Speaker 1: tight ends down the field. You can see that in

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Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin, and I can understand why, Hey, they they

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Speaker 1: evaluate him, they tried to poach him, Cowboys make a

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Speaker 1: smart play to keep him because my humble opinion, he

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Speaker 1: has been the best tied end they've had in camp

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Speaker 1: so far. So and I and I did this in

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Speaker 1: my mind, Gosh, I'm messed up. I was laying in bed,

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Speaker 1: and it's like I was thinking about the wide receivers right,

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Speaker 1: and I was going, Okay, give me the top six

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Speaker 1: and I and I could give you my top five.

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Speaker 1: Where did you stop at six? Who'd you stop? So? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So I did? I did? Terrence Williams, Hearns, Beasley, Thompson,

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. Okay, Now who's the next guy? You forgot? Gallup?

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Speaker 1: Did you say gallop? Oh? And gallop? That I did?

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Speaker 1: You're set. I'm set. I'm six. Now what if I

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Speaker 1: wanted seven? Who? I mean? Who would who? Mentioned? Is

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Speaker 1: there anybody else to challenge? Yeah? He's made play? And

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Speaker 1: then and then McKay, yeah you know six? Four? Wow?

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Speaker 1: You know what? See this is what I didn't I

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Speaker 1: didn't understand why Noah Brown was on the roster last year.

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Speaker 1: This is what's gonna happen. This is what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: to get hurt. You know, we'll see Keith o quinn.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna see where where where Rich Basaccia had

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Speaker 1: a big stick in that meeting room where he was

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Speaker 1: able to hit people over the head with it when

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Speaker 1: you know he wanted a player We're gonna see if

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Speaker 1: Keith o quinn has enough juice to get Noah Brown

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Speaker 1: on this roster. You know that as primarily a special

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Speaker 1: special team who can help blocking the game, which means

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Speaker 1: he's not just on the fifty three, he's on theme.

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Speaker 1: But but I've got more linebackers now that can take

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Speaker 1: up that spot. Joe Thomas can play. Don't you think

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Speaker 1: absolutely Joe Thomas could played. Joe Thomas could play, marsh

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Speaker 1: Lillard can play, Bamian Wilson's gonna have to play. Vander

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Speaker 1: ash has been out there. Team. Maybe I don't need

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver to be a coverage guy. See this.

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Speaker 1: I like guys that are paid to tackle to be coverage. Okay,

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Speaker 1: When when Lenahan runs his packages where he brings a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in motion and stops him on the edge,

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Speaker 1: who does he usually do that with? And I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to trick you here, I'm just trying to when

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Speaker 1: you watch us, when you watch the Cowboys, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Terrence Williams, right, Okay? Does okay? Now? Does Terrence

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Speaker 1: Williams to me? And I'm cheerleading for Terrence Williams because

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play with a chip on his shoulder,

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Speaker 1: and he actually showed some good things. But would they

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Speaker 1: sacrifice Terrence Williams to keep Noah Brown on this team?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I think you've got to have, you gotta.

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Speaker 1: I just think you gotta feel good about a receiver

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Speaker 1: group for Dak Prescott first. I think you gotta find

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Speaker 1: figure out who can help you on on special terms.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't thank that move. I'd find the

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Speaker 1: first receiver first, the best receiver. When you're talking about

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams not being on this team, would it be

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Speaker 1: as a is there trade value for Terrence Williams? See

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Speaker 1: that Terrence Williams didn't have it. He he got to

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Speaker 1: free agency. Am I correct about that? You know he

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Speaker 1: signed a big free but the people had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go get Terrence was. I think we have to

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Speaker 1: be real careful about Oh, people want our players. I

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Speaker 1: think you have to be careful about that. I think

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Speaker 1: there's certain guys on this team that you could trade

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Speaker 1: if necessarily that Terrence Williams with the off field stuff

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Speaker 1: with if you watch that disappeared, Yeah, and that's news today,

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Speaker 1: that's good news. But if you watch his tape is

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams? Would you consider Terrence Williams a two? Would

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Speaker 1: you consider him a three? You consider him a four?

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Speaker 1: What if he's a four? Is he? Is he a

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Speaker 1: But that's what you got Thompson for Thompson's you're better

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Speaker 1: Bryce Butler. I think Thompson's gonna fit in there. And

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Speaker 1: where's Thompson on your list? Now? Is he three or four?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't think there's gonna be any numbers.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be like the I did

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Speaker 1: That's why you use the six. They have one musher

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Speaker 1: away from yoga out here on the practice field. Mickey's

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Speaker 1: I promise I won't. I might ask Dak about yoga,

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Speaker 1: We buried the lead. By the way, we had a

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Speaker 1: know what, he sounds good. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: any interviews, he was. He just he shot the bull

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Speaker 1: puts the pads on. But he seemed very comfortable. So

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Speaker 1: Becky's going to proceed to tell us everything he told. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm an easy story because he seemed very calm, very

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Speaker 1: And he was telling somebody asking him about having a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, his daughter's what three three years old?

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Speaker 1: And so you know, right away I think it was

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Speaker 1: And and he goes, yeah, yeah, I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: right and uh, and it's like, yeah, welcome to the club,

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Speaker 1: because this is life's revenge. You know, you have a

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Speaker 1: And so he was talking about it and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: up a little bit and I think he's realizing things

844
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: and maybe that helps him. Okay, So we talked a

845
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: little bit the other day about what we thought the

846
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: timetable might be. Now, what do you think the timetable

847
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: is the Only thing Jason Garrett would say in the

848
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: press conference as far as the timetable is is they

849
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: expect him to play in are in the preseason at

850
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: some point. I mean, the way he said it yesterday,

851
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if he didn't practice until after

852
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: they got back from San Francisco. But you never missed

853
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: that much time. But you never know. I know, I'm sorry,

854
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: I jump. I know you want to see him sooner

855
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: than today, and we could yeah today. I'm just it's

856
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: the I know, maybe maybe maybe we see him beginning

857
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: of next week. I think. I think the beginning of

858
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: next week he can go Monday, Tuesday, take Wednesday, Thursday,

859
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Friday off and then get back at it. Yeah, Monday's

860
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: an afternoon practice and then a Tuesday morning practice, right matter, No,

861
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because Tuesday is gonna be and

862
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: you won't have a Friday before. See, I was trying

863
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: to get him to the Blue White game. I was trying,

864
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: I think, and I know, and that's that's that is.

865
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm a selfish about think about a guy that's been out.

866
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: I know, I know, you're with an injury. They do.

867
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: There are two three days. I used to be, I'm here,

868
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: then individual and then you get him in teen. You

869
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: said it the other day. It's not just the last

870
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: eighteen months. He missed fourteen games in twenty sixteen. Two

871
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: he has missed basically two years. It's a long time away.

872
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: We got a long term plan that he's gonna be

873
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: on the roster on September ninth, and they're getting ready

874
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: for September nine. One thing I'll say, just about the

875
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: way he looks. We were on the other field and

876
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: he was a couple of days ago. He was working

877
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: with Woisick Nick thought it was somebody else. Yeah, who

878
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: they working out today? Yeah? Yeah? And he looked almost

879
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: like a tackle at first, his upper body when he

880
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: had really developed when he had. Because I told somebody,

881
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: what a camera? I said, who's that working out over there?

882
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: He goes, it's Gregory. I can't beat Gregory. The guy

883
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: looks too big, right, he's two hundred and forty two pounds.

884
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: That could that be Gregory? All right, let's go to

885
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Caleb in New York. You're next up here on Talking Cowboys,

886
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Caleb, how are you? I'm doing well? Good,

887
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: long time listener, first time caller. UM. First off, I

888
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: want to say to brought us than I love the

889
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: work you guys do on the Draft show, and thank you.

890
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Can't you guys got from CBS. UM, it's very informative

891
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: and listen to it for the last probably or five seasons.

892
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that. All right, that's enough. Don't go

893
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: off on your minute now, all right? Yeah, all right, Um,

894
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: so you guys already hit. What I wanted to talk

895
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: on is Gregory. But I have a couple of other questions.

896
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot about Vander esh and Jalen Smith.

897
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything about Sean Lee this season or

898
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: this offseason, how he's doing, how wise and how much

899
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: he's practicing and stuff, um, as well as Uh, I

900
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: have a question about Jordan Lewis because I know they're

901
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: trying to do Byron Jones and Woozy on the outside.

902
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: Are they moving him into the slot? Are they moving uh,

903
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewson to the slot and having him play there

904
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: or is he fighting for that position? Um? And I'll

905
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: listen off. Yeah, thank you, thank you. September ninth, Carolina.

906
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: That's the master plan for him as well. Yeah, if if,

907
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: if we're if you don't hear a lot about somebody,

908
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: it's because we're not gonna make stuff up. You know,

909
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: he's not practicing, right, it's hard to it's hard to

910
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to talk about a guy that

911
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: doesn't practice. How much do you think he will practice

912
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: out here? I think he won't practice. To me, I

913
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: think that it will. It will come down to I

914
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: think he'll miss another whole week. The San Francisco is

915
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: just they're they're really the concern with him is wear

916
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: and tear. Yeah that he always says that they trying

917
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to protect me from myself, you know. And

918
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: he'll play in the Arizona preseason game. I think when

919
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: we start to get back towards Dallas. Yes, I think

920
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: you'll see him. You know, I see him have a

921
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: couple of opportunities, maybe one preseason game, sit out the

922
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: Houston game. But I just don't I just get a

923
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: two weeks before the regular season over right. See. It's

924
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: funny they they they're practicing him like I would maybe

925
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: consider practicing Tyrant Smith. You know. That just shows you

926
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: the value that they think of. Like, okay, well maybe

927
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: maybe we really have to protect this because one of

928
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: the things with Tyrant Smith. Want you want Tyrant Smith

929
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams to work together. Yeah, they don't have

930
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: anybody playing backup. Right, He'll take a couple of snaps

931
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: and then he's out tiring, right, Yeah, flaming we've seen.

932
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why we know so much about Fleming. Now, well,

933
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: it's just the guy's knees. I don't know, you're, Mickey,

934
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm starting to disagree with you here. You guys are

935
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: sometimes he gets the job done and sometimes you do.

936
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: I said he was a fifty fifty player. You know,

937
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't need a fifty fifty player. Yeah, you know,

938
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: if I want a fifty fifty guy, well maybe twenty

939
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: five guy would be the Chadscreen. I just want somebody.

940
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: I want somebody to make me feel really good that okay,

941
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: we're not missing a beat here. You know, you say

942
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: what you want about that kid that went to Jacksonville went, uh,

943
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell, Parnell, And I know, I know, I know,

944
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I know, and he's still playing. I'm saying Parnell when

945
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: when someone happened to free or something like, oh it's

946
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: Parnell and then oh wow he's not playing bad. Oh

947
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: he's okay. Oh you know so. But you I just

948
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: me personally, I want that feeling of okay, if something happens, yes,

949
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: right there, that's my guy, and I'm not feeling that yet.

950
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: And we're you're right, You're you're the you're the ultimate.

951
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: Give it time. Give it time be patient. The other

952
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: problem with that, it's so hard around the league to

953
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: find to find tackles that there's not tackles available out

954
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: there either. I'll tell you say and you can say, okay,

955
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, I can tell you Chaz Green against Atlanta,

956
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes he was good, four times he wasn't yeh,

957
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: and he ruined the gage rather glaring too. Yeah, but

958
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't every snapt Yeah, you great him sixty five

959
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: plays that they play great and sixty of them. What

960
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: happened the other five, Well, we had two sacks, two pressures,

961
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: and our quarterbacks now on ir you know that that's

962
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of where you don't. I'm just looking for

963
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking for somebody to step in there and say, Okay,

964
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: I could do this job. Don't worry about me blocking today.

965
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: And Caleb also asked about Jordan Lewis. He's working in

966
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: the lot, he's challenging with Anthony Brown working second team.

967
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Brown's working for a game. Yeah, and I think both

968
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: of them are playing pretty well. If to Nebbi's question,

969
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: that might be a position battle right there as well. Yeah,

970
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and that was what I looked at. And

971
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking, you know, and poor Jordan Lewis,

972
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes from being like, all of a

973
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: sudden he has to play in that Denver game week two,

974
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: to play in the whole year. He was the first

975
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: of the young guys to get the opportunity, and he

976
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: wasn't terrible. He was part of that the three starting

977
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: corner and then rookies last year at the end of

978
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: the year that went team went four and one, and

979
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: then a new new secondary coach comes in. It's like, hmm,

980
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: I'd rather see Byron Jones play that spot. And now

981
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: you're like, you don't see him getting as mini reps

982
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: with the one second team. Yeah, a second team guy,

983
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: which to Byron Jones credit though he's been outstanding. Now,

984
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: maybe a guy with some value there if you're interested

985
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: in doing something, you know, maybe if you're hey, if

986
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna move on from somebody, I know what you're saying.

987
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: I think you get an injury and you'll go, why

988
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: did I do with you? But but he was he

989
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: was asking, he was asking a question about value of

990
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: a player. Oh, okay, Nickel corners are hard to come

991
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: by in this league, trust me. And and so you're

992
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: talking about value of a player. Which player you talking about? Brown?

993
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: If something were to happen Anthew Brown. I got him

994
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: on that one. And these are conversations that go on

995
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: behind the scenes here. Yeah, if something were to happen

996
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: to Cheeto, who plays left corner, Yeah, there you go.

997
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it's a Brown, It's

998
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, It's Brown, and then training him. Yeah, and

999
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: then you got Lewis inside. So what there's nothing wrong?

1000
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: What happened? Like four? Give me six of those guys?

1001
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: Mickey's a keep all his chips kind of get yes, No,

1002
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: he just would move from Anthony Brown. He just said

1003
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: he no, I joke, kid, Well you go ahead. Thought

1004
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: of Bill. He give with it like like like the guy,

1005
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: you know, like the gift the guy. And then I'm

1006
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: wanting w Yeah. Yeah, and then I'm one injury away

1007
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: from Duke Thomas Plan. Okay, so now here's the here's

1008
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: the next question. No, Lumba, I'm not Lumba by you

1009
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: know what his nickname is. They call him Sherman A

1010
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Lumba the dreads thirty two Sherman, Yeah, because of because

1011
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: his dreads the way he looks, how long he is

1012
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: that was listen does listen to Jaileen Smith? And they

1013
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: asked him a question, Hey, who are you impressed out there?

1014
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Give me somebody you're impressed with, and he goes Sherman. Sherman,

1015
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: You're like, looking at the Sherman. I'm like, Sherman. He goes,

1016
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: you know the kid thirty two draads. He looks like

1017
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: he looks like Sherman. I'm like, I get it now,

1018
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah he does too, by the way, Richard Sherman. Yeah,

1019
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: so there's a guy to look for the preseason. See

1020
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: that's I'm saying though. Yeah, if you're asking me of

1021
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: the of a guy that can maybe sneak on the

1022
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: fifty three, not count the count the six right now,

1023
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: six six of them six four sixty four. Okay, well

1024
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: two guys slot that's four. Yeah, I don't dude, this

1025
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: way go off this no, no, I gotta here right here,

1026
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: right here, off here. If you go for okay, you

1027
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: got a Woozier starting, you got Byron Jones starting right,

1028
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: that's two. You're starting slot is and you're starting slot

1029
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: will be now. But and you got and then Lewis

1030
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: and then that's four. Now you have to think about Okay,

1031
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: is it gonna come down to five? It's Thomas Thomas. Yeah,

1032
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: it's one of those guys, and right now, I would

1033
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: I would, I would take a lumba over all those

1034
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: guys of the Duke Thomas's of the world and Marque

1035
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: and Marquez White. Yeah, so you got him? Is your

1036
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: fifth corner right right right now? Dude? Yeah? Yeah, very interesting?

1037
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: All right? So aside from we obviously think the ranks

1038
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: are thin and that defensive tackle we talked about that

1039
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: other alarming, alarming pensive tackle. Yeah, that was my question. Sorry,

1040
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: what got the answers? The position, which is the position

1041
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: that you're most concerned about depth, Seeing they still haven't

1042
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: got Cavon Frasier on the floor. See, I would say

1043
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: safety and defensive tackle without cave On there, that's an

1044
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: issue too. We don't although I mean I've heard this before,

1045
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: but I heard the tests should be back today. I

1046
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: don't know that day. These guys must be on vacation.

1047
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: They're down in Newport Beach or something. Grade the blood

1048
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: what are you doing? They did it in a case

1049
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: here in nineteen ninety four at one time. Yeah, you're

1050
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: very famous cases. So but you know, but even with

1051
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: him that that's what is that? That's four guys. Yeah,

1052
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: that's safety. Yeah is it three? See, it's four because

1053
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: if they use they're having to use cam Kelly and

1054
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: guys like that. Yeah, that's where that's where this is

1055
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: kind of going. So I I they got huff, they

1056
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: got Kelly, they've been using him, they got Ye Robinson,

1057
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: they've been using they've been using Showers. Showers been out there.

1058
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Hewers made a play off, So Showers right now would

1059
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: be behind if if if we assume Frasier makes it,

1060
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Showers is fourth. I think Kem Kelly and those other guys,

1061
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: I think. I think huffs forth or huffs forth, huts

1062
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: forth a Showers, Yeah, okay, I think so. I you know,

1063
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Jimie Showers, I love you, I really do. But I

1064
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: just don't, you know, I don't see it. I just

1065
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: don't see it. He's out of practice squad eligibility. Yeah,

1066
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: he's gotta be or twelve years. A good story on

1067
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: cam Kelly working for Red Yeah that guy yeah, yeah,

1068
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: Branch the trucks truck. Yeah, well spoken kid too, Yeah

1069
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: from Wiley yep. San Diego State played corner for three

1070
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: years then safety at San Diego state. Yeah, they try

1071
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: to make corner here initially and it didn't work out

1072
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, he is a safety. I just wish

1073
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: some of these kids, like you said, I mean, hey, Alumba,

1074
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: he's he's stepping up and making plays. I mean they

1075
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: throw him out there. Robinson has done some stuff and

1076
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: coverage that I've seen, you know, not great because why

1077
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: Marquez White, I just don't. I just don't see it

1078
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: with him. I just I know he's got the length

1079
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: and the range, and they talk about him. I just

1080
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: seek I talk about a fifty fifty player. I see

1081
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: times where he's in position, other times where they've spun

1082
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: him around. I see Christier Schard over there. You know,

1083
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: you've got to turn, you gotta play with your eyes,

1084
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: you got. I mean, there's so many things he's trying

1085
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: to tell him, so many things at once, and it

1086
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: just he hasn't been able to put really everything all together.

1087
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, is ultimately gonna get

1088
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: That should be our next list unknown young guys. Yeah,

1089
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: that have a chance to make this next time. Young guys.

1090
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Speaker 1: There you go, Well, that was one of them. If

1091
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: they ever get posted. So we will see you tomorrow

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Speaker 1: here on Talking on Cowboys is coming up next. This

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