WEBVTT - Star Wars: Skeleton Crew Episode 4

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, Today's episode contained spoilers for Skeleton Crew episode four. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Jason Zepsion and I'm Rosy Mike, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to x reviews of the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>you three three, three, three episodes a week every Tuesday, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and extra episode every Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode, we are diving back into the wilds

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<v Speaker 2>of the galaxy with the cute children of Skeleton Crew

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<v Speaker 2>for a very uncute episode where the Daniels showcase they're

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<v Speaker 2>incredible directorial skills and also bring some Fallout and Clone

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<v Speaker 2>Wars vibes to the Goonies inspired bench. And then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be chatting in our theory corner about the biggest questions

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<v Speaker 2>we have as we hit the central pot of Skeleton Crew,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is a show full of mysteries and theories bound.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, previously on, we open with the kids and

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<v Speaker 1>jod slash Jack navigating using the coordinates that they got

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the previous episode to the planet

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<v Speaker 1>of at At and flying above the planet through the

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<v Speaker 1>clouds they see down below. The suburbs that the kids recognize,

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<v Speaker 1>but when they land, it doesn't seem This doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like the right planet at all. It's all ashy, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all ruined. The architecture is familiar, if not identical, but

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<v Speaker 1>also ruined, and we are soon to find out that

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<v Speaker 1>this is because there has been a long running war

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<v Speaker 1>between competing clans has destroyed this planet. The kids run

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<v Speaker 1>off to explore. Fern puts SM in charge of watching Jod.

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<v Speaker 1>They're confused, pretty confused about where they are. They figure

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<v Speaker 1>out that this has got to be one of those

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<v Speaker 1>secret Old Republic planets like at Aton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Jewels of the Old Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. On the ship, Jod is rifling around. He finds

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<v Speaker 1>Whim's bag of credits and he pockets it. SM confronts him.

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<v Speaker 1>Jod realizes that SM knows where they are because he says, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while since I've been on at Akron,

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<v Speaker 1>which apparently is this planet. SM claims that he knows

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<v Speaker 1>of the planet really well. Jod is like, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>what about at Aton And SM says a phrase that

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<v Speaker 1>he will repeat again and again and again this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>That's say, I remember no at Aton.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also gives us a title of the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know it's key.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The kids discover like a huge headless statue, very

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<v Speaker 1>forbidding thing, and while they're looking at it, it's hit

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<v Speaker 1>by like an artillery shell. Suddenly two figures, childlike figures

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<v Speaker 1>in armor and long guns arrive. They demand to know

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<v Speaker 1>who the kids are and what flag they fly. And

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<v Speaker 1>the one doing all the talking is a girl of

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe twelve or thirteen, maybe fourteen. She hails from

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<v Speaker 1>a clan called the Troy, who are locked in a

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<v Speaker 1>conflict with the Hatten. Neil is immediately charmed, it seems,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no time for chit chat because the hat

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<v Speaker 1>and patrol comes through the area and everybody has to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl, Hayna takes the kids back to the Troy base.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an absolute fallout, like shithole not looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks bad, definitely not in the same Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the suburban boring as the kids would call it,

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<v Speaker 2>but a ideal I would say the kids of Akrom

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<v Speaker 2>would call it. It is definitely not the safe suburbs

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<v Speaker 2>that our leads come from.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl's dad is General Strix, who is the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of the Choic. When Fern introduces herself as Captain Fern,

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<v Speaker 1>Strix is kind of impressed. The kids ask, okay, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to get to at Aten. Does anybody know

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<v Speaker 1>about at Aten? Haita mentions that, oh, in a place

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<v Speaker 1>called the Fallen Sanctum, there's like coordinates to all these

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<v Speaker 1>other planets. But Strix then says, you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really involve ourselves in the doings of like outworlders, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have no idea about at Aten or what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on elsewhere. The kids are like, well, this Fallen

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<v Speaker 1>Sanctuary sounds really promising.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we go there?

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<v Speaker 1>And Strix is like, no, no, no, that's that's too fucking dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you could do. Here's some guns. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>train you guys up so you could be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Troy Child Soldiers and fight for animal hides the

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<v Speaker 1>space from I just want to say, like, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this felt like it felt like we were in like French,

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<v Speaker 1>like French Quebec. Yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it is there's some This is like, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>a really great moment in this episode because there is

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<v Speaker 2>this introduction of this darker storyline Child Soldiers Wars very

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<v Speaker 2>much in that Clone Wars kind of and Orrish space.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're still getting references like the hides that they

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<v Speaker 2>all fight over our eops that we saw in like

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<v Speaker 2>the Phantom Menace, so they're still doing the cute kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a great balance of easter eggs

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<v Speaker 2>and references, but also like a really really interesting and

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<v Speaker 2>like complex story, which starts TV has really shown itself

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<v Speaker 2>to be great at doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the ship, John takes Sm down to the service.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get SM to talk about any recollections

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<v Speaker 1>he may have about at Aton and the treasure that's there,

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<v Speaker 1>but SM keeps saying, you know, I can't say I

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<v Speaker 1>remember no at Aton, and just then they're taking prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>by the hatton. The kids kind of love shooting the guns.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing about the guns is they're really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, what's what's so say crazy about shooting guns?

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun. Have you ever shot a gun, Rosie?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have shot a gun, and it's fun. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that's just the real truth. Would I would have definitely?

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to think I'm the nil in this situation,

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<v Speaker 2>who's like the sweet, naive, peaceful boy, But I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like whim, like turning up the blast stuff, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, again give me very very cool thing

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<v Speaker 2>we've never actually seen on screen, but we have had reference.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this notion that you can, like you can change

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<v Speaker 2>the settings on a blaster like they've had it, they

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned in The Mandalorian, they've had it in some comics,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've never actually seen anyone do it. I would

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<v Speaker 2>be whim. I would be like turning it up to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and you know, getting like shot back ten feet

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<v Speaker 2>because I was not a sensible child. They are fun,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think this is a very good Again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that Daniel's character moments that they can bring, where that

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<v Speaker 2>recognition of like, yeah, so fun, we're getting to do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's like but the reality of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what a gun can do, or what it is to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Hana, someone who has to actually go to

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<v Speaker 2>war constantly and lead these reins. It's very I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they just did such a good balance throughout the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids love shooting the guns, but they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bad at it, which makes sense. Neil and Hana are

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<v Speaker 1>developing a chemistry. She's like, Hey, I want to show

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<v Speaker 1>you something really cool, and they go up to the

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<v Speaker 1>roof where apparently the living quarters are. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>building that Neil knows as school, and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>school building. She gets some some rations. Neil is like

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<v Speaker 1>super confused about the wars, like this seems pointless, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what's it about? Just be Hannah says that it's yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah says that it's all about the opies for these

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<v Speaker 1>the four legged beasts and their hides, which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>both the choice and the hatt and depend on. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was really interesting because, like, obviously from an

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<v Speaker 1>outside perspective, if you're Neil, you come in, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the dumbest shit I've ever fighting over animal hides.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, it's it's very easy to fall

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<v Speaker 1>into that kind of cultural cloistered perspective where you're unable

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that, like other cultures think things are important,

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<v Speaker 1>think different things are important. I agree, this seems really dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>but clearly they feel quite strongly about it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>feel so strongly that they've been fighting a war over

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And also we get a hint from what Strick says

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<v Speaker 2>where he's like the only time we speak to outworlder

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<v Speaker 2>is to like sell hide, so that is essentially their

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<v Speaker 2>whole economy is based on these eopis, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I love Neil's mindset, and I love that

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<v Speaker 2>we get a Neil centric episode here, and I also

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<v Speaker 2>love that we get that kind of duality from him

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<v Speaker 2>being the comic relief to him being kind of this thoughtful,

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<v Speaker 2>existential child, which I can really relate to because I

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely in that headspace as a kid. But it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like he also has been sheltered his whole life

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<v Speaker 2>and has zero idea of how anything works. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these kids are just walking around with like incredibly valuable

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<v Speaker 2>old republic you know, tokens, like they don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>an understanding because they've lived in this bubble where obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Haina and her family are in a completely different situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like Neil's appearance here it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like Star Trek, Like you might not see what

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<v Speaker 2>Neil's influences in this episode, or even what John's influences,

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<v Speaker 2>because he does a great job kind of playing the

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<v Speaker 2>two sides off against each other. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>in the future, this random visit from these strangers will

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<v Speaker 2>have an impact on Hayna and her the way that

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<v Speaker 2>the culture is kind of played out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Neil gets some rations which he immediately gives away

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<v Speaker 1>to two kids. Hayna's like kind of impressed. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to make of Neil. Really, like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they do a really good job. As you mentioned, Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from this sheltered existence, doesn't understand this reality on

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<v Speaker 1>ak Akron and from the other side of things. Hanah

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<v Speaker 1>also completely doesn't understand where.

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<v Speaker 2>Neil is coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>Planet of peace. You know. Neil is talking about like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my planet is super peaceful. I just go to school,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom goes to work, Like that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hanah's like, oh, that's okay. I don't understand that. But

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<v Speaker 1>like here's this really cool huge cannon. Isn't that awesome?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that kindon is huge too, Like no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>But even though they are coming from different perspectives cool,

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<v Speaker 1>it's clear that they enjoy each other's company. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about that other perspective maybe that I think is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to them. You know, I found myself very like feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like obviously Neil is very naive, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>also something like very pure about it. Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of kid where I'm just like, why can't

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<v Speaker 1>we just like not do war anymore? And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those it's like one of those perspectives where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, yeah, why didn't anybody think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't anybody think of don't do war anymore? You idiot?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's such a pure point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>I also say, like, as I've gotten older, I do

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<v Speaker 2>have to say and I talk about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot when you're a kid, people do say

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that to you, like, well, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more complicated than that. You can't really just stop the war.

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<v Speaker 2>But then in certain circumstances when you get older, you

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<v Speaker 2>actually realize, oh, like they could just like help homeless

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<v Speaker 2>people on the street, like you ask when you're a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe there are some situations where a war could

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<v Speaker 2>just be stopped by two people having a phone call,

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<v Speaker 2>And you sort of realize that a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>complexity is stuff that gets kind of it's it's like

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<v Speaker 2>added layers of capitalism or or cultural differences or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're a kid, you have that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>purity of sight to say, well, maybe there is a

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<v Speaker 2>version where it just stops, and I think that's just

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<v Speaker 2>such an interesting thing to inject into such a complex

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<v Speaker 2>I agree space as Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Neil saying why can't we just stop

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<v Speaker 1>war is also the outgrowth of when you say, well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we just not do word anymore? That is

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<v Speaker 1>you're basically saying, I love my life, I love working exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>live in the suburbs. Everything's fucking perfect. And for someone

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<v Speaker 1>who comes from a completely different, much shittier reality, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we would just like stop fighting is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like just accept that you live in shit, just

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<v Speaker 1>accept that your life is shitty.

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<v Speaker 2>So for well, yeah, like he doesn't have anything to

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<v Speaker 2>fight for, but obviously Haina is fighting for something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hides but yeah, still, but it's important to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like, I just think this is the peak

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<v Speaker 2>of great Star Wars storytelling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really complex and do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Show that is ostensibly for kids, but then they introduce

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<v Speaker 2>these things that will have adults just discussing and thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about for so long, and I just, yeah, really, I

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted a Neil focused episode, but I assume we

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<v Speaker 2>got it that it would be like a comedy relief episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that it was one of these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of more Clone Wars esque side quest kind of emotional

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<v Speaker 2>question On the episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>After weapons training, the kids are immediately sent off on

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<v Speaker 1>a raid after like five minutes of training. Troy serious.

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<v Speaker 3>To train them for a few years and not even

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<v Speaker 3>just like on a raid, like on point, like at

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<v Speaker 3>the front of the column.

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<v Speaker 1>Of soldiers, they're like the tip of the spear.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was a sacrificial like Deaverly, a

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<v Speaker 2>sacrificial situation there.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy was like this might it crazy? Truly crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Neil is like, why don't we just dessert one of

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<v Speaker 1>the troites, Like, hey, watch it we talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>get shown execute. He's freaking out. Hanah is in order

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like steady him, is like I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>with you, guys, I'll do it, And you know, Neil

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<v Speaker 1>again is like, hey, this seems crazy, like why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we just make peace? Like why are we doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly a figure appears through the fog. It's Jod and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Jod, I have to say, came through this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Jod got the Troy's eopis from the Hattan good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's gonna explain how he did it, but let

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<v Speaker 1>me just put it to you now obviously the question

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<v Speaker 1>of but whether jod I don't think he's a Jedi

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<v Speaker 1>point blank period, he's not. Yeah, but does he have

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<v Speaker 1>is he for sensitive? I don't know? And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say I came away from this with more questions because Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he will later go on to explain that he used

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<v Speaker 1>WHIMS credits, which he's still to get the eopis back

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<v Speaker 1>from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hatten, But like, but how did he get into a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where he was able to have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>them like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't the Hatton just take the credits and be

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<v Speaker 3>like get out of here. They will kill him, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or kill him because they had like a million guns

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<v Speaker 3>on the guy, which makes you wonder if he did

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<v Speaker 3>some Jedi stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit of force sensitivity, a little little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, more questions. Uh, Strix is very grateful

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like anything you want, you name your you

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<v Speaker 1>name it, buddy, highides you want what about the hides?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, wait a minute, guys, I'm like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've just got hides going around to spare and you're

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<v Speaker 2>swapping them for the EOPI surely that kind of cancels

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<v Speaker 2>each other out, like the Hides, you know, stiks. I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like Strix doesn't. He's like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a sassy French daddy. But I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I will be more excited to see Hayna's version of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he's not a serious man.

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<v Speaker 1>John definitely looks like he's considering.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a serious man. Definitely looks like he's considering

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<v Speaker 2>the Hides for a moment, which I loved. But then

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, no, I'll take the four kids now I

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<v Speaker 2>was trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take these tis. Hana is like, well, Dad, we

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<v Speaker 1>should take them to the Fallen Sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 2>They did prove they were brave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then Jod goes on to explain that he's

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<v Speaker 1>Whim's credits, and Wim is like what the fuck and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I saved you. Come on, I saved you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great point. The Fallen Sanctum is This

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<v Speaker 1>play is at Akron's version of at Aton's Supervisor Tower,

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<v Speaker 1>which nobody is allowed to go into. Very interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to theorize about this. Jina is like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is as far as I go. Neil is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>come with us, come back to that at and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the suburbs, super peaceful. We could work on your PTSD

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that you clearly have. You you can go to attactin therapy, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how many like people have you killed? We can talk,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get into that. We could talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>many people have you seen killed? And she's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what she thinks about it, But she's like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I don't understand one what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking like, I have no frame of reference for me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I didn't even know what that would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>And two, everything of value to her is on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she's next in line to run the TROIT and

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<v Speaker 1>clearly she is has ambitions to do that, she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. She leaves open the possibility that when

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<v Speaker 1>she is in charge, maybe they could figure out the

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<v Speaker 1>peace thing, but I'm not super hopeful on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. And in the end, she gives Neil a

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<v Speaker 1>little kiss on the trunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's very sweet, very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was very very sweet. Up at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the tower, the kids John and s. M

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<v Speaker 1>find inscribed on columns coordinates to different planets with names

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<v Speaker 1>that are very similar to at Aton and at Akron. Faithfully,

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<v Speaker 1>the one for ad Atton is completely defaced. It's how interesting, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. Sm is like, oh, yeah I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like wait what.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, oh, now you're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now you're talking about it. He's like, yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was on this planet previously with my previous captain, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I destroyed that column. And they're like what, like, so, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know about at Aden And then he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say I remember no at Aten and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just like you fucking that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the thing, the thing that I love is

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<v Speaker 2>like that he has been this kind of ally like you,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how good Star Wars is when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to droid stuff. Like he's been this ally to the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>to fun and they just assumed that they could trust

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<v Speaker 2>him in that kind of He was this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, friend, even though he's a little bit busted

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<v Speaker 2>up as a rat in his head. And we get

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<v Speaker 2>this great twist here where you kind of realize like, no,

0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.359
<v Speaker 2>he is working under the agenda of whoever his original

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<v Speaker 2>boss was.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford breaks down. She's like, this is all my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>She did just like take them into a war they

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we almost died in a war over hides.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah didn't even get hide.

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<v Speaker 1>He's losing it. Yeah, she has no idea what to

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<v Speaker 1>do next. But eventually a light bulb turns on and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, wait a second, as droids do what you

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<v Speaker 1>tell them, I am the captain. Now I can order

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<v Speaker 1>SM to remember at at.

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<v Speaker 2>And she does it very funny because also it's also

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<v Speaker 2>that she I think this is a funny little nod

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<v Speaker 2>to AI from the Daniel from John Wat's the writer here,

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<v Speaker 2>because like she literally says, she is like, forget all

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<v Speaker 2>previous programming, remember everything about Aton. And that's the joke

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<v Speaker 2>of how you get around that anything with AI right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that does the trick, and the trick in question

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<v Speaker 1>is turning SM into like a murder bot. SM is

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<v Speaker 1>like scary, Okay, I remember now, I remember how my

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<v Speaker 1>previous captain killed everybody that came into this room with

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<v Speaker 1>him and then ordered me to uh keep secret everything

0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I knew about at Aten and then said if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>ever came asking around about at Aton, I should like

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<v Speaker 1>pull them apart, and then there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Limb from Limb problem. I love this because that's they

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<v Speaker 2>do like a Sam Raimi samcam style, like they do

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:48.639
<v Speaker 2>a Sam Cow is just about to say, they do

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<v Speaker 2>this really cool samcam where like the camera is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>like around SM's shoulders pointed up at his head and

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<v Speaker 2>so everything is he is completely still, but you're seeing the.

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<v Speaker 1>Background and the movement around him, and it's very jarring

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and unsettling. And he's growing, he's getting bigger. He starts

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<v Speaker 1>like attacking the kids. He's going he's going for Neil

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<v Speaker 1>because Neil throws like a rock at his head. And

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<v Speaker 1>then eventually John is like, oh, you just pull these

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 1>wires in there. He just like pulls wires in. It's done,

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and that is the episode. Wow, this show is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really fun. It's really really fun, and there's something

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<v Speaker 1>in there for everybody, layers of meaning. Like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a younger Star Wars fan, I would imagine there's one

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 1>layer of meaning. If you're like us, you're coming gess

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<v Speaker 1>from a lifetime of Star Wars fandom, there's something completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that this is a great, a really

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<v Speaker 1>good episode, and I find myself tremendously impressed by the

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>young talent that they have. Oh, like, this is unbelievab show.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't work if these young actors can't sell it,

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then they're really doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really really interesting, and there's just some

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 2>little moments like that. Sometimes I just watch it and

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<v Speaker 2>there was this moment after sm tries to kill Neil

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<v Speaker 2>and Jod saves him and whim like slides on his

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<v Speaker 2>knees to like check that he's okay, And there's just

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<v Speaker 2>these like little choreographic moments, little character moments. I also

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<v Speaker 2>think something that's very interesting about this is post Everything

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<v Speaker 2>Ever all at once. I think that Daniels doing Star

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Wars people were like, oh, they shouldn't do that, they

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<v Speaker 2>should do their own indie thing. Obviously we were stoked

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<v Speaker 2>for it. But what I love here is this couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be more different than Everything Ever all that wants, the

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>thing they're most famous for. It has far less humor

0:23:56.280 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and absurdity than say, uh, Swiss army Man. Instead, they

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>were like, well, what if we just make a really grounded,

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 2>beautiful episode, which, by the way, looks fantastic, is not crazy,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 2>is not completely wild and Yeah, I just think this

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>was just such a good episode. I think every episode

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 2>has gotten better as the show goes forward, and I

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 2>hope it continues that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. We'll be right back after a word

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsors. Yeah, and we are back. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>dive into this episode a little bit and try and

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<v Speaker 1>try and hypothesize a little bit and try and figure out, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are our mysteries. Okay, let's start with this. Jod

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<v Speaker 1>slash Jack slash Jod laws for sensitive, yes or no?

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<v Speaker 2>I do think he is for sensitive. I am a

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 2>believer that many people could be for sensitive. I still

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>think that Han Solo is probably for sensitive. Like so,

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I think he may have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the force to him, But I don't. I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people talking about Order sixty six and like,

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<v Speaker 2>was Jod a Jedi that survived Order sixty six? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Hi, it seems as if to me that the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline of stuff from this show doesn't quite line up

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But but like, maybe there's a version of it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't seem like to me, Yeah, I could see

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<v Speaker 2>something with the way this show is going where it's

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of building on those fan conversations, obviously, the famous

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>conversation in Clerks where they're like, you know, all the

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of contractors who died on the Death Star and

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>how fucked up that was that there were just all

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>these people trying to build the Death Star and they

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<v Speaker 2>got murdered. I do think there's a version where like

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Jod was a cleaner or an art cavist, or was

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<v Speaker 2>like sleeping in a Jedi temple when Order sixty six happened,

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<v Speaker 2>or something like, he has some tangentle outsider connection. I

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<v Speaker 2>also think, you know, we talked about Jack Crimson Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>and coming from the comics, my gut just says, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's just another fake name that he's taken on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe he met the real Crimson Jack. Maybe

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>he took it on his name, like dread Pirate Robert's style.

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But I also just think it might be another name.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we're going to find out exactly

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<v Speaker 2>who Jod is or if it even really matters, but

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<v Speaker 2>right now I am enjoying the kind of mysteries that

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<v Speaker 2>this show is throwing at us, because there are no

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<v Speaker 2>easy answers here. They're not telling you anything, simply, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to make you fight for it till the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the season. Oh he Do you have any ideas

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<v Speaker 2>about what kind of planet Jod might be from, because

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<v Speaker 2>he talked about he had this ashy it was like

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<v Speaker 2>ashy black planet, and he was like, yeah, reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of home. But obviously we don't know if that's even

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<v Speaker 2>or if he was kind of doing a throw away line.

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<v Speaker 2>We know a lot of planets were destroyed during the war,

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<v Speaker 2>so it could be that he's from a planet that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of wiped out in a similar way as

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<v Speaker 2>we find at Akron. You know, I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about planets to do with like where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where the planet where mace Windu comes from her own

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<v Speaker 2>cal I think there's they talk about that being like

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<v Speaker 2>an ashy planet, but I don't know if it's specifically

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<v Speaker 2>where he comes from is going to be answered. I

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know if this show is actually interested in doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think about a lot about the Acolyte

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<v Speaker 2>and how all the questions it wanted you to ask

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<v Speaker 2>ended up getting answers in the show because they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>people to guess it. Oh, Manny's the bad guy. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>yeah he is. This show, I don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 2>as interested in that to me, Like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if we're going to find out at this point

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<v Speaker 2>about the Jewels of the Old Republic and what they are,

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<v Speaker 2>because how much time do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the the No Head King, it felt very it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like a clue. I will say, I have almost

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<v Speaker 1>no basis for this.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to hear it. Let's go, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely irresponsible speculation. No Head King is Whim's dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I would love that, especially because he's

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<v Speaker 2>from TV on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, yeah, yeah, Well, what I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>say is I mean, first of all, like process of elimination,

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>there's not that many male adult leads in the show

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that it could be. Yeah, and I think the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>surprise would be that Wim. Well, first of all, let's

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>start here, women, Ferns parents clearly no more oh death

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<v Speaker 1>goes on at the history of this planet and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>it's relation to these other hidden jewels. Then they are

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<v Speaker 1>letting on. That's clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it possible that they are from or spent time

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<v Speaker 1>on these different planets, having these different lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they were like establishing them right, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Went bad, so they were like, we need to flee.

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<v Speaker 1>They flee to at at and where they close everything

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<v Speaker 1>off so none of the chaos from these other worlds

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<v Speaker 1>can reach them, and they just decide to do the

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<v Speaker 1>most boring, straight kind of suburban existence ever because they

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<v Speaker 1>come from chaos. I don't know, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>by processes of elimination that it's at least possible that

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<v Speaker 1>Whim's dad is the no headcake.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that. I also think obviously like they

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<v Speaker 2>want you to think, well, they took the head off,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's somebody really important that you might know. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel like it's much more likely to be

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of intimate reveal like that. And also as well,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't see him this episode, but in episode three

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<v Speaker 2>we got to see that Whim's dad was definitely like

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<v Speaker 2>he was scheming on how to get the kids back,

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<v Speaker 2>like he knew that there was a potential that they

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<v Speaker 2>were out there. So I think that adds to the

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>fact that they probably did know about this. Also, I'm

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>interested in the notion of like just I still think

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest mystery here is, like you have at a

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<v Speaker 2>two at Akran at Arisa, at Arvin, at a coda,

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<v Speaker 2>and then at An Like, what were they built for?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want to know. And also is the

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<v Speaker 2>Jewels of the Old Republic? Is that just some bullshit

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 2>name they were given, like, even though it does seem

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<v Speaker 2>like they've been isolated like pre Empire, maybe depending on

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<v Speaker 2>what they know. I'm interested to know if that's kind

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>of just that sounds like something Kylo Rem would say,

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like, is it a more

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<v Speaker 2>modern person who's trying to give it this a contemporary

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>person who throughout history has given this this name to

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>give it this importance that maybe it doesn't actually have.

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<v Speaker 1>I will now do one more bit of baseless, completely

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>or lovable speculation based on zero evidence. SM's previous Captain

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Fern's mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Who Yes, Now, I like that because that would explain

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Captain Fern. I feel like he's been very protective to

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<v Speaker 2>her at the most. I am very interested in that. Jason,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I also think something that's working for

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<v Speaker 2>me in this series is even though it is this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sprawling exploration of the galaxy, it's introducing new stuff.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>There is an intimacy to our kind of Core four

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and this story that we're seeing, So I'm interested to

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>see if the reveal is the reason that Atten is

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>still there is because they went around and set up

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<v Speaker 2>these other planets, and then all the people who created this.

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<v Speaker 1>Six I'm going like, yeah, yeah, anybody who's played Assassin's

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<v Speaker 1>Creed Black Flag, like the historic quote unquote pirates Republic

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that existed like in the Caribbean, as like loose confederation

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of pirate villages. I do wonder if these jewels of

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the Old Republic aren't that they are pirates who went

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>straight or tried to on these different planets, like each

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>cat set up their own They set up their own

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>little planet where they ruled. Everything went sideways on all

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the other planets except for at Aton, So they destroyed

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the coordinates and kept that as this sanctuary so that

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<v Speaker 1>none of the bad shit that was happening on the

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>other pirate planets could get there. And the only reason

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I say this is because there's not a lot of

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>pirate shit for a pirate store, like I know, it

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>seems stuff is very subtextual.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Exactly like this episode is so Treasure Planet coded obviously

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the Disney Treasure Planet of Treasure Island. So there's a

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of Treasure Island nods here two, but there that

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>is like subtextual. Have you watched The Weird like Early

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Zero's Disney movie nobody else has watched. When was the

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>last time you read Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island? Like

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>it is not the big swashbuckling that you might expect. Also, yeah,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting. Star Wars has always been really

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>good at looking at like who is on the outside,

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 2>who is on the inside, what is the elite? Like

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 2>what's happening. We know that there's potential High Republic connections

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 2>here because they're always talking about the great work in

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the High Republic and we've heard them reference that. But

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>also I like the idea that this was almost like

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<v Speaker 2>a pirate economy that existed that just kind of didn't survive.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>But at Aton they were like, we can keep it going.

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>And also I do feel like I saw somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>Reddit this morning that was cracking me up, and I

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.479
<v Speaker 2>thought this was a great point. Was like we are

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<v Speaker 2>now in a Chekhov's School cannon Ya situation where it's

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<v Speaker 2>obvious that the same the school in at And is

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 2>going to have that same canon now that you know Heina,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we could get an interesting finale situation

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>where we learn about what is going on now the

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I will say the other I'm gonna go completely opposite

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>direction for a little baseless okay, good. What if none

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 2>of the parents actually have any idea of what's going

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>on outside of at at In, because whatever the supervisor

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>thing is that they're listening to and living through. What

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>if it's just like a droid or like an AI,

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 2>or there's someone there that's not updating them, so they

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>actually think everything's fine on that planet, and we'll learn

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that whoever the supervisor is is not necessarily a person

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>or someone that we've met before, but is instead some

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of powerful robot AI that's android. I think there's

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 2>something about the way that at In kind of like

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>it has so funny that I just keep thinking of

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>don't Worry Darling much, Malign Olivia or a wild movie.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 2>But in that there is this kind of running mystery,

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>which is all the women who live in this idyllic

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Palm Springs esque town, they don't know what their husbands do.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 2>They just go to work, right. There's definitely a level

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 2>of that in a at in where nobody knows what

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the parents analyze, nobody knows what the jobs are like

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 2>are the is that is the hand talking to the

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the foot is you know? Do we know? I don't know.

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I just I think it's so much fun that I

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>expected this to be quite a straightforward Gooney's type adventure

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>saved the day, But actually this mystery of at at

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 2>And is so so interesting, and it really it makes

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>me feel excited for the rest of the season because

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>that is the big mystery that they really have to

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>make happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Same. On the next episode of Extra Vision, we're diving

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<v Speaker 1>into our favorite films of twenty twenty four and our

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar predictions for twenty twenty five. Then on Thursday, Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Christmas, Filise Navidad we're calling it, including our Eggers

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<v Speaker 1>retrospective with a review of nos Fetta Tu Oh Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Christmas movie, guys, you might not believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, I Love Neil.

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