1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Hey, a laser. How come you don't have a laser? 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, it seems that parts houses are becoming places 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: where if you can't do anything else, now you're going 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: try and sell louder parts and Swine the Car Doctor. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had a twenty thousand mile 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: oil drain interval and you just tried to drive this 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: vehicle to the point where you ran the power steering 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: system completely drawings Mr potanin ahead to you. Welcome to 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five and now 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: he running. What are you looking at the hockey puck? Hey, 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engine, each and every one 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: of you. And if they don't start, you definitely want 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: to stick around for the next two hours. It's me 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Ron nay In the Car Doctor at eight five five 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero, here to take your calls 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: and answer your questions. We're taking no prisoners again this 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: weekend as we continue to motor on and do this 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: radio show out across this great country of ours, visa, 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the the airways, in the Internet, and however, what form 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: you're taking this radio show? A zero nine nine zero zero. 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: No opening monologue this hour, Maybe we'll do one later on. 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I've got some comments I want to make, but we're 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: gonna take one right out of the gate, and let's 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: get going because the phones are backed up, and we 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: left a couple of hanging last week, and I hate 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: to do that. So let's start off with Marie and 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: Maine with some comments about oil change intervals and oil analysis. Morey, 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: Thank you Ron for taking my call. You're welcome. I'm 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: headed out on a long triple in my two thousand 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: fifteen civic changing the oils. I've got forty four miles 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: on it, okay, and I'm concerned about changing the oil 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: and route. I have a trusted mechanic here, and I 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: won't be able to change it myself. There's a new 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: oil out by Mobile one. It's called Annual. It's it's 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: zero and I've had an oil analysis done the laboratory 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: black Stone Labs tested a virgin sample. They've never seen 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: the oil before, and they want me to send them 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: samples periodically along the way. Would oil analysis testing be 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: good to find out my personal interval between changes based 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: on my driving habits. Would the oil analysis be worth it? 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: You know? I suppose, Marie. Here's here's my hesitancy on 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: these longer range oil changes. And let me let me 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: qualify this answer. Okay, I think if you're using a 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: long range oil filter and long range oil, I don't 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: know if this twenty thousand mile oil is really up 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: to the test yet because it's new. It's just new 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: to the marketplace. I'm imagining if the engineers say it 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: is it is, because obviously the lawsuits would be from 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: here to eternity. But my concern with the oil change 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: interval up the twenty tho miles is this. We had 57 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: a customer with a camera taken into Toyota this week 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: at five thousand miles because he's got a transmission issue 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: and they're working on the transmission and they said, by 60 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: the way, you're due for a five thousand mile service, 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: and he said, okay, is that an oil change? And 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: they said, no, the oil change. Now, they said to him, 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: the oil change was twenty thousand miles. But he said, 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: maybe they were confused, he said, because I didn't think 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I had twenty thousand mile oil in the car, and 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he does either in a new Toyota. 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: And he said, but they did the five thousand mile service, 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: which was a tire rotation check, the underhood fluids, check, 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: the air and the tires, all at no charge. It's complementary. 70 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: Here's my concern. If everybody's running twenty thousand mile oil 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: and just just to eliminate this concept that will it work? Yeah, 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: I think the twenty thousand mile oil, Uh, it will work. 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where we're gonna get an oil filter from, 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: which is my second question or comment or concern. You know, 75 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: my understanding is that most of the dealer level, you know, 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk Honda specific filters are seven eight thousand mile 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: oil filter, uh, you know, after which there's no guarantee 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: whether or not they're in bypass or not. And that 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: seems to be what everybody's saying and talking about. I 80 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: know of no manufacturer that's coming out with a statement 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: that says and again and I'll be proven wrong, which 82 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: is fine, but let's get it out in the open. 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: I know of no manufacturer statement that says our filter 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: is rated for X number of miles and it goes 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: the distance for their oil change. They don't seem to 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: talk about that. They only talk about the car will 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: go ten thousand miles or fifteen or twenty thousand miles 88 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: on an oil change. So as far as using oil 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: analysis to determine where your oil change interval is, yeah, 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: you know. And and for conversations sake, Let's say, let's 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: say they decide that twenty thousand is too long more 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and they tell you, hey, Mr Murray, we're gonna you know, 93 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna recommend you change your oil at fifteen thousand miles. 94 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: Are you gonna Are you comfortable with that? Yes, the 95 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: oil fil where I'm using as a mobile one filter 96 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: extended performance and it's guaranteed twenty Well, then there's somebody 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: that does it, But I see no manufacturers doing that. 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: Concerned about if I have to add oil en route, well, 99 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to mix oil. Staffs part of the issue. 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: That's part of the issue too. But my bigger question 101 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: is are you gonna go twenty thousand miles without getting 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: under the ton of that car every couple of thousand miles, 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: checking fluid levels. That's a good point also right there 104 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: and then and the other things the oil does concerns me. 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: I don't understand how the valve system works, the variable 106 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: valve timing. If I believe that's powered by oil from 107 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: a hydraulic sure is absolutely so, it would be most 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: likely keep it clean, keep the oil clean, well, you 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: would hope, uh you know. If I'm gonna end up 110 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: on Bob as the oil guy dot com again, I 111 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: know I am. You know what, if I was an 112 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: oil manufacturer, trying to make oil goal longer, isn't one 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: of the things I'd be worried about. I try to 114 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: make oil survive for all the things is that it 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: doesn't an engine. Lubrication is last on the list. Variable 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: valve timing, valve control, all the different solid oils, all 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: the different things that they get oil to do. You know, 118 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: that's that's the bigger challenge. But you know, back to 119 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: my point, So you're gonna use twenty thousand mile oil. 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Let's say black Stone comes back and says, hey, the 121 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: oil go twenty thousand miles. Let's say it. I'll go 122 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: twenty two tho miles. You're gonna change it at twenty 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: The filter is good untill twenty thousand miles. Okay, you're 124 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: one out of your one out of how many drivers 125 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: in this country? And you're you're kind of a car guy. 126 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: You get it, your your your nosing around under the hood, 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: trying to see what's going on and take care of it. 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: What about Mr and Mrs Public that you know thinks 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: they can dump twenty thousand mile oil in it and 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: they get a twenty thousand mile filter and they start 131 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: their oil change in January, and they put air in 132 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: their tires and they do their fluids and off they go. 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Spring comes, temperature changes, weather changes, tpm s, light's gonna 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: come on. It's gonna vary. And then they go through 135 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: the sun or and you know, they've got to get 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: their tire pressure checked again. And they go on the 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: fall and they've got to get their tire pressure checked again, 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: just on TPMs Tire pressure monitoring system issues. Who's gonna 139 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: pay for all that? How is the independent repair shop 140 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna get paid? Is a dealer? And and maybe some 141 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: of them do. And I'm reading reports that some of 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: them do do that. You know, are are we going 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: to start giving away free service? Is that what this 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: is gonna come back to? Because somebody still has to 145 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: check tire pressure, somebody still has to check fluid levels, 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: and an oil change is still going to be the 147 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: place where most mechanics guys with something between their ears. 148 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Not the hackers are going to catch the problem the 149 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: wheel before it, the tire before it goes bad, the 150 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: oil leak before it becomes major, the belt before it 151 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: fails on an older vehicle. Where where? How are we 152 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: going to do that in the name of just trying 153 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: to get our oil changes to go longer? And who's 154 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: gonna pay for it? When I get that from my 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: long trip, I intend to go back to the regular changes. 156 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: This is more like a one time thing. If I 157 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: could get ten thousand miles out of it, I'd be 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: comfortable doing that, and then just maybe doing the testing 159 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: on it. You're you're probably more. You'll probably get twenty 160 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: thousand miles out of it. If Mobile one says it, 161 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: you'll probably get it. My wife's driving is entirely different. 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: She drives one mile, turns the car off, drives home 163 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: one mile turns a car off. I think that's where 164 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: its case for oil and my my driving here is 165 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: going to be long distance highway with oil, proper oil. 166 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: My last question would proper oil changes and lubrication. How 167 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: many miles do you think I could get out of 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: the Honda? Can I go to fifty? They're going to 169 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: fifty now, They're going to now with care and maintenance. 170 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: But again that's the cars that you know, oil change 171 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: interval aside, are getting regular scheduled maintenance, real regular scheduled maintenance. 172 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: And when I say real, regular scheduled maintenance, not dealer fantasy, 173 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: not you know, not what the guy needs to sell 174 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: in order to make his lawn chair payments. Um, you 175 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: know that's that's realistic, that's real world stuff. Well, thank 176 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: you for taking my call. I will get back to 177 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: you at the end of this trip. And when I 178 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: get the oil sampling done, I'll do it at ten 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: thou miles just because the laboratory said they'd like to 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: see it. I guess I'm kind of a guinea pig 181 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: here that first one out and the they want to 182 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: compare the oils used, so I'll probably do a sample 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: on that. Thank you very much for your time. You're 184 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: very welcome, Marie. Thank you in safe travels. I I 185 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: think we're all missing the point though, and I just 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: want to comment on this before we pull over for 187 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the pause. Can oil go twenty thousand miles? If they 188 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: say it can, I'm sure it can. Can the filter 189 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: go twenty thousand miles if they say it can, I'm 190 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: sure it can. Would I use it? No, absolutely not. 191 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't see the point in it. I don't see 192 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the value in it, and I don't think we're ready 193 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: for it as a society. Who's going to check tire pressure, 194 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: who's going to look under the hood, who's going to 195 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: verify the actual operating condition of that vehicle. I don't 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: understand the fascination with trying to drag out an oil 197 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: drain interval, when in fact an oil change, when done 198 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: properly by a real mechanic, does more good for the 199 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: car than harm. Don't understand it. I wish everybody well 200 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: in good luck with it. Zero nine zero nading the 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: car doctor coming right back after this. Hey, welcome back 202 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: the car doctor rolling along at zero. One last thought 203 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: on the oil change, and we'll never have this question again. 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: I know we won't. We're putting way too much emphasis 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: on this stuff, folks, all right, you know, chances are 206 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: if the manufacturers say the oil or filter is good 207 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: to X y Z, go ahead. You notice no car companies, though, 208 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: and somebody proved me wrong. Please, no car companies have 209 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: said the oil filter will go twenty thousand miles or 210 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: ten thousand miles or fifteen thousand miles. Maybe coming soon 211 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: to a dealership near you. I'm not sure, but I 212 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, and at what additional cost? And 213 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: I still come back to you know, this is like 214 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: they never put up the traffic light until somebody has 215 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: an accident at the intersection. I still look at it 216 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: and still say that we're we're gonna go for thirty 217 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: thousand mile oil changes and maybe fifty thousand mile oil 218 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: changes until cars start breaking to the point that people 219 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: aren't doing the maintenance on them. And then what how 220 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: expensive and complicated do you want to make the car? 221 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: It's already way too complicated. Just my opinion. I'm allowed 222 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: to have that. I think I'm still an American citizen. 223 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Barry pots down. P A. Barry, 224 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: how are you, sir? Welcome to the car doctor. What's 225 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: going on? Hey, listen, I call to get a quick 226 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: diagnosis as to what could be wrong with my car? 227 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: All right now, listen. I have for the expedition and 228 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: lately has been hitting a lot of you know, off rows, 229 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: little potholes, railroad tracks, and I've been feeling a shimmy 230 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: all week. It started light that I can feel it 231 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: on the way home, and then it was smooth out. 232 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Then it will kind of shimmy again, and I'm wonder 233 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: what the heck is going on here? When when when 234 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: you say when you say shimmy, Barry, you know, do 235 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: you feel it in the steer wheel? Do you feel 236 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: it in the seat of your pants? Is it? Is 237 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: it speed? The wheels more like the tires, so you're 238 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: you're you're feeling it more in the seat of your pants. Yeah, 239 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: what what any particular speed? Um? Actually when when when 240 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: you begin to accelerate, you kind of feel it, and 241 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: then as you progress it and go a little faster, 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of you know, smooze out. But when you're going 243 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: slow you can kind of feel it, so then it'll 244 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: smooth out. But I'm like, what the heck is going on? 245 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: So you're really kind of talking about. You're talking about, um, 246 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: a misfire or a bucking or a shimmy sensation under load, 247 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: low speed, you're pulling away from a stop sign and 248 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe from ten to forty miles an hour, you just 249 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: feel it kind of jerk every now and then. Is 250 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: that what you're describing? No, I feel the shipp me 251 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: like the cars like shaken the car itself is the 252 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: car itself is starting to waddle? Would that be like 253 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: like like you feel like the like it's it's it's 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: a it's a drive train shimmy. Okay, I'm just and 255 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get a sense of what this is. 256 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: Is that an accurate description? Um, Like I said it is, 257 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: I can feel it, uh when I'm going and then 258 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: I don't smooth out what you can kind of feel 259 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: a shimmying. Well, that's why I call you to kind 260 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: of get a quick diagnoses to kind of pinpoint what 261 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: they Well, yeah, first, I'm just trying to get a 262 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: symptom um because what you're describing to me is kind 263 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: of vague and it could be a lot of things. 264 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: This could be an engine performance issue, this could be 265 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: a drive train issue, This could be tires, this could 266 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: be transmission, this could be what it could have should have. Um, yeah, 267 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: so you know that being said a sensation when the 268 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: vehicle is starting to shimmy or shake under a light 269 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: to moderate load pulling away from a stop sign. Is 270 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: that a fair description? Okay? Well, I first thing I 271 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: would do, even though it's not gonna turn up anything, 272 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: but I crossed it off the list, is i'd scan 273 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: it for codes. I would just go through trans an 274 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: engine controller and just make sure there's no fault occurring there, 275 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: all right. And then and then when it's when it's happening, 276 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: i'd want to start to look at fuel trim. I'd 277 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: want to start to look for potential misfires. Okay, Do 278 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I have an engine condition that's creating this? Do I 279 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: have a trans condition that's creating this? Because then you're 280 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna tell me it's intermittent, right, it's not all the time. Yeah, 281 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: And you know I can't see tires being out of 282 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: balance causing this. It's not moving fast enough, alright, Tires 283 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: don't really come into effect at low speed like that 284 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: on an inconsistent basis, on a consistent basis, different conversation. Okay, well, 285 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I don't know if it's 286 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: nothing serious. Eventually it's going to get more serious. You know, 287 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: it was it was serious enough for you to notice it, right, 288 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: And actually I'm going to take it to my guy, 289 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to kind of get a quick 290 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: diagnosis as to what if, you know, you have a 291 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: number of things that could be wrong with it. And 292 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, you know what I would probably 293 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: do is the next time it happens while you're accelerating 294 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: with your right foot, tap the brake pedal. Does that 295 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: change anything? And I'm curious to see if the tour 296 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: converters coming on early in the trans I'm curious to 297 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: see if it's got something to do with the way 298 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: that trans shifts. If you manually shift the trans from 299 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: first to second to third and so on, does does 300 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: the problem occur? Or do you change how it affects 301 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: or how it happens? And then and then my last 302 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: thought would be, if you were rolling along at twenty 303 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: miles an hour, does it start to do it by itself? 304 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Does it start to do it by itself? Uh? Well, 305 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: apparently that's what has been happening. And like I said, 306 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: now all the time on when we put out of work, 307 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: we got close to the house, I could feel well, no, 308 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I could feel a little to me on the way home, 309 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: some more close to going to home on this this 310 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: irregular irregularity going on there, you macept. I want to 311 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: take it to mcgrats first thing Monday. I'll just trying 312 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: to get a figure what's going on. But you don't. 313 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: You don't live on a dirt road or work on 314 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: a dirt road or anything. Do you bury? No? I don't, Okay, 315 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about mud, the tires and stuff. 316 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: I've seen mud do some funny things, um creating a 317 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: tire and imbalance. But it doesn't sound like that to me. 318 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like more this is a drive train issue, 319 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: and and I would I would have it looked at, 320 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: just out of curiosity. Any dashboard warning lights on, no 321 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: check engine light, no service anything like an Okay, okay, 322 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: then yeah, well I did have a differential change last 323 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: year though. Well yeah, but let's you know, let's let's 324 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: do a little diagnosed, let's do a little looking around. 325 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: This one's a little tough just because of the description 326 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: on error. But let's um, let's get your mechanic to 327 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: look at it. Let them scan things. Let's look at 328 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: fuel trim, try and split it up and decide as 329 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: an engine is a transwhich is it? And then if 330 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: you need more information, give me a call back when 331 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you can pinpoint a little tighter than that. Barry, I 332 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: appreciated the call. I'm not on any of the car Doctor. 333 00:17:50,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: We are back right after this. 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Also, let's let's kick the garage 352 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: doors back open. Let's go over to Matt Columbus, Ohio 353 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: ninety four Buick Roadmaster. Hey Matt, welcome to the car doctor, sir, 354 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: how can I help? Oh? Hey, Ron, thanks for having 355 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: man love the show. You're welcome. Um, Okay, I have 356 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: a Roadmaster and the problem is, and it only seems 357 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: to happen about maybe five minutes into driving, so it's 358 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: slightly warmed up between the speed is about forty miles 359 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: an hour and seventy when I give it slight throttle 360 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: but just barely, it seems to like kick and kind 361 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: of bucked. The best way I can understand, I can 362 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: explain it. You know what I mean. It's it's not 363 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: a it's not a smooth acceleration, no, not at all. 364 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: But it seems below that, like first, second gear seems 365 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: to go just fine. So you're saying, you're saying, once 366 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: you're into third and fourth gear, because this is an 367 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: LT one is a five seven P motor. Yes, um, 368 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: general condition of the ignition system you think I have 369 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: had the car two years and allegedly that the plugs 370 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: and wires were changed about four years ago. Okay, so 371 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: they're they're due twice. Um. Let me let me tell 372 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: you the story about owning a five seven L T 373 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: one P motor had one. Um. I loved every minute 374 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: of it. I was more thrilled when I got rid 375 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: of it. The spark plug wire and spark plug replacement 376 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: is like a labor of love. Have you have you 377 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: gotten under the hood to see where the wires and 378 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: the plugs are? It seems like a whole lot of 379 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: work to get to the passenger side. Stude, it's it's 380 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: a blood letting. Have you have you seen where the 381 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: distributor is on this car? Yeah? You have to take 382 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: the water pump off right right. Yeah, this is a 383 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: genius idea. This is General Motors that their finest GM 384 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: giant mistakes. So you know, having owned one of these cars, 385 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: I got the scars on my hands that I I 386 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: can tell you what it was like working on this 387 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: thing that before I attempted any diagnosis, I always made 388 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: sure a basic general ignition. Ignition is the downfall on 389 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: this car and my experience that I can tell you 390 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: anything but a you've got to use a good quality wire. 391 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: Here's a case where I can make an argument for 392 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: a C. Delco. Well back then, I'm not so sure 393 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: about a C Delco today, but a C Delco back 394 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: then it was it was Delco plugs and wires all 395 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: the way. And then all right, take a look at 396 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the water pump. Does the water pump look like it's leaking? 397 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: And be absolutely yeah? Well, okay, conversations over, because here's 398 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: what's happening. The water pumps dripping on the distributor cap. 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: The distributor cap can only take cool and dripping on 400 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: it for so long it gets perosity and it's actually 401 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: leaking on the inside. Ever have an older car with 402 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: a wet distributor cap. Yes, I'm driving a mail truck 403 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: right now. The kind of rain, right, how's that? How's that? 404 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: How's that run for you? It kind of runs like 405 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: your ninety four Buick Roadmaster, right and not even as 406 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: that right, So it's it's my wife had this car, 407 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: all right. I love my wife and kid, all right. Um. 408 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: I love buying the car. It was great. I knew 409 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: what it was the minute I saw it. My wife 410 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: was kind of turned off by it because it was 411 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: a wood grain Chevy station wagon. She said, I don't 412 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: think I can drive that. I said, oh, yes, you can. 413 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: We took that thing out for a ride. I hit 414 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: second gear before we got to the first traffic light 415 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: on the highway. I said, we're taking this. This was 416 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: the fastest station wagon on the block, I think. But 417 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: when it came to maintenance, all kid around a side 418 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: matt once every eighteen months to two years. Susie put 419 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty thousand miles a year on that car, 420 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: all right, So around thousand miles, I was always doing 421 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: plugs and wires. It got to the point where it 422 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: was easier for me at the At the second go around, 423 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: i'd hang a water pump because the water pumps were 424 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: always failing also, so it became plugs, cap rotor wires, 425 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: water pump, cooling service, therm stat upper, lower, radiator hoses. 426 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: Car drove the two and thousand miles. I had to 427 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: do it four times, five times um. But and I 428 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: learned the lesson the hard way because after I went 429 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: through the first time where the water pump started the 430 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: leak at thirty eight thousand miles and the cap got wet, 431 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I went well we're not going through this again, um, 432 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: because there's there's no way you can diagnose that car. 433 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing to hook up to that car. Is is 434 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: an event. Um yeah, I can scope the distributor and 435 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: I can you know, maybe get a scope lead on 436 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: the ignition wires to try and look at something. But 437 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: trust me, dude, just you know, find a day when 438 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: it's real cold out when you haven't run the car 439 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: getting up in the air, pull the tires. I think 440 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: I did most of my passenger side stuff through the wheelhouse. 441 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: I think I pulled the wheel well out and that 442 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: made it a whole lot easier. But you know, just 443 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: be just be prepared, good quality stuff. Wait to see 444 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: the price of the distributor cap if you're priced out 445 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: the distributor cap yet for a good one, which was 446 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: I think a missabuci uh the optical I it was 447 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: about almost well no, no, no, the distributor, not the 448 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: just not no, not not the distributor, the distributor cap. 449 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: The cap. I think the cap was like a buck 450 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: in a quarter, a buck and a half hundred fifty bucks. 451 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: It was. It was stupid money. Um, real need system, 452 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: very expensive to work on, all right. The the the 453 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: optical eyed distributor was have you ever have you ever 454 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: seen the inside of that distributor only on a YouTube video? Okay, 455 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: the plate, the optical eyed plate has three hundred sixty 456 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: slots in it, about the size of the eye of 457 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: a needle. Tell me, tell me what that thing is 458 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: subject to with you know, with dirt and and and 459 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: contaminant floating around inside. About how how accurate that has 460 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: to be? So you gotta go through, gotta go through 461 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: basic ignition. I can tell you the primitive way I 462 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: would I would diagnose that car met is go down 463 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: to the hardware store by an atomizer bottle, you know, 464 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: a little fushhush bottle, Fill it up with water, and 465 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: give the ignition wires a good soaking. Start the car 466 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: up if you can, all right, see how it runs, 467 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: if it runs worse, if there's any change in the 468 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: way that car runs, plus cap rotor wires to start, 469 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: especially if the water pumps leak, and put a water 470 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: pump on it too. Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, you're done. Yeah, 471 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: you're done. And and and if you're gonna buy the 472 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: water pump, buy the Delco. It's twice the money. But 473 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: if Delco is still doing it the same way now. 474 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: It's it's it's ten years since I've owned that car. 475 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: I can still remember it. My body's going through with 476 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: draws and tremors thinking about it now. But if if 477 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: they still make it the same way, you buy the 478 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: upgrade or the better version of the Delco pump. It's 479 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: gonna come with the thermostat and the housing built right 480 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: into it, which I thought was kind of kind of neat. 481 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, thermostat water pump. You get to do it 482 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: all in one shot. So that was the deal, real 483 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: real deal fixing cars. That's the way it was back 484 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: in back in then, and these in the early two thousands. Yeah, 485 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: so well that's I get started on that then. Yeah. 486 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: But um, that's where I would go. All right, kiddo, 487 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: and watch out for that number seven cylinder. Make sure 488 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: it's not burning any oil. Take a careful look at 489 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: that plug when you pull it out. Seven Yeah, five 490 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: and seven were the worst, alright, kiddo. Yeah, have fun. 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: When I hear the screams, I'll know it's you, Matt 492 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: and Columbus, Ohio. Well, yeah, it's just the way it is. 493 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: It's it's just it was a horror show. I would 494 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: tell Susie, but you know, I call her up Tuesday night, 495 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, five thirty. I'm staying late at the shop tonight. 496 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: She goes, what are you doing to go? Plugs, caprola, wires, 497 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: water pump on the wagon. She goes, okay, see about 498 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: one am, you know, and it would be like, oh good, 499 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you'll have fun. All right, Matt, let 500 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: me get going. The clock is gonna take me. But 501 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the conversation. Good luck, and keep me posted. 502 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: And there may be more besides that, but we'll let 503 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: you start there. Five zero nine zero. The car Doctors 504 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: coming right back. Don't go away, Welcome back the car doctor. 505 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: By the way, get out on Facebook, check us out 506 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: Ron and any in the car doctor. And um, I 507 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: gotta get some videos up there. It's been uh actually 508 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: I was actually gonna shoot a video this week. I've 509 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: been working on a what is it? Honda Odyssey? All 510 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: right again, all you people, all you handle lovers. I 511 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: don't get it. So, um, Jerry brought his wife this 512 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: Honda Odyssey, and um it had a water league and 513 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: going through and diagnosing it, it looks like and we're 514 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: not done with it. Yet I'm pretty about I'm comfortable 515 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: enough to talk about it here on here to tell 516 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: you that it's it's getting close. And I know when 517 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Jerry here's the podcast, he's a podcast, right, know, he's 518 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna jump up and down and get excited because we've 519 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: only had it for four weeks. And uh, well, it's 520 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: hard to fix a water league when it's it's called 521 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: out because when the water freezes, uh, you know that 522 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: don't work. And you can't do it in the shop 523 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: because hitting it with a hose doesn't duplicate the problem. 524 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: But I say this story tell you to tell you 525 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking about doing a video on this and 526 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: then I lost track of time. But it's just a 527 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: good repair, Evan. You ever look at the top of 528 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: a Honda Odyssey minivan, the part where the roof rack is. Well, 529 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: I never realized it before, but that's actually two pieces, 530 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: the center strip where the sun roof and the roof 531 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: rack is, and then they attached the upward body panels 532 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: by visa via spot weld right down the trough where 533 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: the trim sits. So evidently the Odyssees have an issue 534 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: where the spot welds. And I think the spot welds 535 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: are either poor quality or there's something else that happens. 536 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: As a result, they react and they start to rust, 537 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: and they create an air gap and they start to leak. 538 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: So you have to take the roof rack apart. You 539 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: have to take the calking up. Not to mention the 540 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: caulking also goes bad to the calking in Jerry's case 541 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: also had little tiny cracks in It was getting porosity 542 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: and it drips inside the car and it finds itself 543 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: into all these different places. The actual, the actual problem 544 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: with Jerry's car was the b pillar. The passenger side 545 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: seat belt assembly was getting like a couple of ops 546 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: of water. And unfortunately Jerry's wife, you know, she has 547 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: a reaction to mildew. So we had a you know, 548 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: clean it up. Um, we're going through all this and 549 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: you're saying to yourself, can they come up with a 550 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: better idea than to put two halves together and then 551 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: just spot Weldon seem clock it so, but yeah, just 552 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: a terrible way to do it. Anyway, Let's get back 553 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: to the phones, but we will do a video not 554 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: of that, but of something else coming up shortly. Let's 555 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: cover to the phones. David and iowa some comments and questions. Yes, David, 556 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: how can I help? So? Hey you all right, what 557 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: a pleasure it is to talk to you, Ron. I 558 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: want to thank you number one before we get started 559 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: on the information you give the public. And I think 560 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful service that you do. And I tell 561 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: everybody if you want to know something, just get over that. 562 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: I looked you up on the internet and I saw you, 563 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: and I thought I was looking at my dad. Oh 564 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: boy behind the microphone. I mean, you're two guys who 565 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: favored each other. Like it's I'm believable. I'll send you 566 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: a picture of him and if you do that, yeah, car, 567 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: doctor show dot com or work. Yeah, right, anyway, I 568 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you a couple of questions, and then 569 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: I like to of course, I like to talk to 570 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: tell you something. First, I learned to drive, not dry, 571 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: but a steer car when I was three years old. 572 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I remember stating on my grandfather's lap and he's told 573 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: me to steer it and he would take his hands 574 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: off the wheel. And I remember that to this day 575 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: and every since I've been a card not okay, I've 576 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: had so many cars, all the old plastics and everything 577 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: they've come and gone. And Uh, one of the main 578 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: questions I wanted to ask you about these cars to 579 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: go from like uh sixty there and two seconds. Shouldn't 580 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: we tried to try to put those on the track 581 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: and like any five and let people see what they 582 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: do and maybe that'll discourage I might discourage a few 583 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: of them, of course, for you probably that they want 584 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: to drive one of those, okay, and see what they 585 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: do and see how you know, the safety majors and 586 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: everything you have to take with them, and you know, 587 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: really do some research on this stuff first. You know, David, 588 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: it's you look at the cars that they're producing today, 589 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's staggering the horsepower. It's it's how quick 590 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: they are, and how the acceleration and handling and the performance. 591 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: And like you, I was brought up in the sixties. 592 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's muscle cars and performance like that and 593 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: you know, just just white knuckle rods. I think, I 594 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: think getting kids involved in cars to really find that 595 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: next generation to work on the cars is I think 596 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: in large part going to be due to how we 597 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: approach and handle the performance issues and getting kids interested. Um, 598 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more Well, we're we're kind of considered antiques, 599 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: aren't we. I mean, it's pretty difficult to stay up 600 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: with all this stuff, and that's why I admire you 601 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: for your your research, your expertise. But uh, you know, 602 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: you're helping a lot of people out there. And but 603 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, with that kind of horsepower, I don't think 604 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be too far. They're probably working on cars. 605 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna fly, okay, if they can just keep it 606 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: on the on the script or whatever, you know where 607 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: they put it. Yeah, I'll tell you what, David, David, 608 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: hold that. David, hold that thought. Let me pull over 609 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: and take a pause. We'll pick this up when I 610 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: come back. I'm on any of the car Doctor. We'll 611 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Welcome back the car Doctor. 612 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Rolling along and I was talking to David and iowa, David, 613 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir. I'm here before the clock takes me. 614 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: I got about two and a half minutes. You're a kid. Also, 615 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: let's get some closing thoughts. What are your comments? Okay, Well, anyway, 616 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: I I was pointing, you know, like I said, Uh, 617 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: the technology, technology is moving so fast, you know, Uh, 618 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: do be having predictions on how long it's gonna take 619 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: before we run into that kind of a situation. I mean, 620 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: as fast as it's going, do you have any idea 621 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: what do you mean, what do you mean flying cars 622 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: and all? Oh, yeah, all this it's doing so quickly, 623 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's the advancements and stuff, and I think 624 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: we're going to be limited by our imaginations and the 625 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: economic constraints, you know. And I think it's a lot 626 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: of I think it's a lot bigger factor than we 627 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: all realize. I look at the shop, and I look 628 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: at which I look at the changes in the last 629 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: five years. And this will sound really silly, all right, 630 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: but I no longer have a drum of conventional green 631 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: anti freeze in the corner that I mixed because I 632 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: used to mix my own cooling. I no, I no 633 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: longer do that because every car today takes a different cooling. 634 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: I used to have a roll around drum of decks 635 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: Ron three trans fluid. I no longer do that because 636 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: cars today just everybody takes a different trans fluid. And 637 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, there's a couple other things that we've 638 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: gotten rid of in the shop over the past five years. 639 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: And Danny and I look at each other, and we 640 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: start thinking about how it's changed and how fast it's changing, 641 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: and it's just every year exponentially it increases. I don't 642 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: know when flying cars are gonna come about. I think 643 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: there's a national security issue associated with that for obvious reasons. 644 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: I think that the technology is here. The problem is 645 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: the skill set the skilled people to fix it are 646 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: not And until the school system and the education systems, 647 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: not every kid can go to college. A lot of 648 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: kids are gonna have to go to trade school and 649 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: learn how to work with their hands as well as 650 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: their minds. And yeah, you're gonna have to be an 651 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: electrical engineering and you're gonna have to get deeper into it. 652 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: Until that all happens, I don't think we're gonna see 653 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and if we do, it's gonna 654 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: be forced down upon us. David. I appreciated the conversation. 655 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm running any of the car, 656 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: doctor mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it