1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rutt Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: your hosts Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is rut Fresh 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortex Optics. I'm your host, Casey Smith, 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: and one of the most anticipated weeks of the year 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: is here. We talked to hunters this week across the 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: country who are doing their best to deal with the 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: hot weather and still get on big bucks. Welcome to 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: the rut Fresh Radio podcast, brought to you by Vortex Optics. 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: On the phone. Right now. I've got the one and 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: only Mark Kenyon. We have not been able to spend 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: much time with him lately, as you can imagine. We've 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: all been in different directions, and I've got sitting here 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: on the couch with me Casey Smith. We are just 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: chilling and fixing to go out again on the road. Mark, 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: You're out somewhere in the middle of nowhere, is what 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: I hear? Yeah, yeah, buddy, I am in Parts Unknown, Nebraska, 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: all right, excited Unknown Destination Stern movie from Mecca in 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: the nineties and then what that was called Parts Unknown 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, it might be it's private parts, um, 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, you guys. I'm I'm about to kick off 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: my vocation here and we're filming season two of one 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: week in November, so I'm excited about that. We just 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: got here like half hour hour ago something like that, 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: so we're just kind of unpacking, organizing our gear. We're 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna get out and do some scoulting this evening and 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: then start hunting tomorrow. So look deary right now, Mark, Yes, 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's you know, it's you know what Nebrassa 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: is like. There's a lot of places that don't look deary, 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: like at least white tailly right. I'm in an area 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: where there's a lot of open country where you're thinking, 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: oh man, there's you at least here. But I don't 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: know about why tales, But as soon as you find 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: these little patches of cover, these little Heidi holes, these 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: little rivers and creeks and stuff like that, you're in 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: some good white tail stuff. So um, that's that's what 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: I'll be hunting here. Um. But I gotta tell you 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: guys something real quick before you before you ask me 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: anything else. I haven't I haven't been on rough Fresh 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: in a while, because you guys have been traveling over 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: the world doing all this stuff, and I just want 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: to publicly say it feels great that my baby has 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: been in good hands. You guys have been doing a 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: good job. I've been listening every week like that parent 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: who's like got their ear to the door and listen 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: to what the kids are doing in the room next door. 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: You know that's what I do. And you guys haven't 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: been breaking anything, you haven't been fighting, you have been 49 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: doing anything too bad. Um, so parental parental approval is here. 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Are the next Wisconsin guy that comes up behind me 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: in a dark camp will for though, So let's not 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: let that head. It's uh, it's been it's been fun. 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying what you guys are doing, and uh, I'm 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: glad to be back. They'll gladdy back on here and 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: get the chat with you guys before all sorts of 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: exciting stuff breaks loose. Because guess what. I don't know 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: if you guys realized it, but it is November. The 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: podcast drops right O. Man, it's the best time of 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: a year. Man, It's like, you know, they wrote that 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: song the most wonderful time of the year. They wrote 61 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: about Christmas, but they should have written in about the 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: first two weeks in November for sure, for sure, And 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: if if only I knew a musician who also loved 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the deer hunt, who might be able to write a 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: song like that? Do you know anyone like that? I'm blanking, man, 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm blanking on it. Who also has recording equipment at 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: the house? Right, so we should be listen. I'm an 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: ex musician, Okay, I don't get to play guitar anymore, 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: right us the Most Wonderful Time of the Year edition, Dude. 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I've I've thought about this, actually thought about, you know, 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: making a music catalog for deer hunting shows on the 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: outdoor networks you know, um TV, because I could do 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: it easy, dude, and it would be you know, you 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: just gotta write corny songs about trucks, just like country music, 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: but you gotta put a little bit of some deer 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, anecdotes and and uh references in there. So 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: it's it's easy. Man. I think a bone collector did 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: at one point, you know, and I think I could 79 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: do the same thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean it sounds like, ah, 80 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: I think something we should release on the Wired to 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Hunt platforms for sure. Sure, Yeah, you know what you 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: catched me on the right day, I might say it 83 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: so that in all seriousness, Bone Collector did release an 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: album like that, right, There's this called the Bunk collect 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Brotherhood or something like that, and I had I have 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: it downloaded back when it came out ten years ago. 87 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: I downloaded it and pie it or did you you know, 88 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: I legitimately legitimately downloaded. So and still this is on 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: top of my mind though right now, because my two 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: year old and four year of boys are like all 91 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: eight up with anything hunting, and so they to hear 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: some hunting music. So like I put on like the 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Dirty Point Buck, and I put on fred Bear and uh, 94 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and then I pulled up that one. And there's a 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: song on that album called bucks Fever, and it's a 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: good old you know jam about buck fever and stuff. 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: And my kids love it. But my son for some reason, 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: thinks it's called deer Sick. So instead of buck Fever, 99 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: called it dear Sick. So from now on, if I 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: ever like miss a deer get to Jinger, I'll like, 101 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: oh man, guys, I got some I got some beer sick. 102 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: We also we have another musician on the staff now, 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that or not. But Greg, 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: the guy I've been running around with, he is uh 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: it was a tearing musician and kind of the uh, 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what you call the genre, but definitely 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: rocking out real hard, you know. And uh he's also 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: um one of the guys hard progressive. He's gonna be 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: hunting with this down in Texas when you come down 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: with us and him and I've been scheming on how 111 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: to get you on buck man. So I'm excited. Yeah, 112 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: we're pretty excited too. Yeah. Supposedly deer sightings are gonna 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: be good and so pretty much from here until the end, 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: we just see deer every day, dude, can you believe it? 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: But well, the thing is, Mark, you're gonna you're gonna think, Man, 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: why are these guys seeing so many deer and I'm 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: not seeing anything but goats. That's what you're gonna think, 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: because they're gonna be about your buddy. Josh just sent 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: us some trail camera pictures of like I think they're moose, 120 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: but they have whitetail antlers and white tails. Um from Kansas. 121 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: No in uh, Michigan. I just can't believe the size 122 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: of the animals up there. Man, it's so cool to 123 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: travel the country and just see the discrepancies, you know, 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: in in white tail. But then they're all especially in 125 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: Marks book, they're all just white tails. So just deer. Yeah, 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean you're deer, just dear too. They're all the group. 127 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: When you guys make these lumpers and splitters, do you 128 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: think anybody knows what in the world they're talking about? 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: But it's okay, inside jokes of the best jokes they are. 130 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: We do this for us, Mark, not for thee. Yeah. 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: So are we talking about We're talking about hunting bucks 132 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: in the rut man. That's uh, that's what's going down 133 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody is hype. We've had a lot of people, 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: uh just go wild about the numbers that they want 135 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: to give for what kind of week it's gonna be. 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: And I understand, right because hyping is fun. I know 137 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: that you're probably participating in some of it. We're doing 138 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: quite a bit of it right now, honestly, we Uh, 139 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us are in the mode 140 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: of like the buck who's been chasing like crazy and 141 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: had to stop and take a break for a couple 142 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: of hours and then just get right back after it. 143 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of how I feel at least, Um, 144 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: have you heard much. I don't know how many guys 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: you've gotten to talk to you yet so far, But 146 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: have have folks been talking about this forecast though that 147 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: we've got for a lot of country because at least 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: up in the Midwest, in my neck of the woods 149 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: in Michigan or even here in Nebraska, it's really hot. 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: It's early part of November. Um, And I'm always, you know, 151 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: bummed out when I see that, because that's not ideal. 152 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: But then I gotta remind myself it's still the rut. 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: We're still doing the thing. You don't need to get 154 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: too crushed about it. Um. But is that something that 155 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: is a theme this week? In fact, we talked to Uh, 156 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: you're a good friend, Josh with first lot up in Michigan. 157 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: He is actually mentioned that quite a bit. Uh. We 158 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: talked to Michael Hunt Sucker in Colorado. Uh, he's talked 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: about the weather a little bit as well. Play nucom 160 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: who you were about to UH be doing some texting 161 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: with for the next week for one week, I'd imagine. 162 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: We talked to him about Arkansas, and then we talked 163 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: to Chris B. About Ohio and whether it is a 164 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: um big factor in all that because it's like the 165 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: it's this is when he's one of your favorite words 166 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: here where it's a balancing thing. Uh, it's the first 167 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: week in November, so they're going to do the thing. 168 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: But it's not ideal weather. So what does that look like? 169 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: And there's some really interesting theories in there of just 170 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, how guys hunt around the weather because say 171 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: it's late October, you can just say, oh, it's not 172 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: worth it, but right now it's worth it. Like no 173 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: matter what the temperature is, what the weather is, it's 174 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: worth being in the stand, which is exciting, right, but 175 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: you there's certain ways to to manipulate that to your favor. 176 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: And I would be interested in Mark Kenyon's first impulse 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to maybe a hot weather situation in 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: early November. You know, it's it's mostly sticking to the 179 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: normal plan, right. I mean, mornings especially are going to 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: be just as good as any other time. You know, 181 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: mostly that's the coolest part of the day. You're gonna 182 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: have a longer stretch of time that's gonna be cool 183 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and comfortable. So those bucks are the cruise and there 184 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: will be chasing right, and whatever they would have been doing, 185 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: they should still be doing in the morning. So I'm 186 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: hunting the same kinds of spots in the morning. Um, 187 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: I think the gas place at the hot weather impact 188 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: by rut hunts is that mid day kind of action, 189 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: because you know, when you've got like a twenty or 190 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: thirty degree thirty degree super cold day, I can hunt 191 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: the betting area and feel pretty confident there's gonna be 192 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: bucks cruising through that, you know, late morning, midday, early afternoon. 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: When it's on November three or fourth, you know, I'm 194 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna have much much lower expectations for that kind of 195 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: thing happened, So you know, I might feel honestly a 196 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: little bit less bad about taking a mid day off 197 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: and get some lunch or doing something creative midday, like 198 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, take advantage of mid days if you're not 199 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna sit all day because there's not much moving at noon. 200 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: You know, maybe then you do some more scouting and 201 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: walk around and check out stuff, or you know, one 202 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: of the things I'm gonna do here in open country 203 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: is I'm not gonna stre sit at noon or one o'clock, 204 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get out of the tree, and I'm 205 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna go drive around and walk around and glass in 206 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: this open country and see if I can't get eyes 207 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: on a buck with a dough you know better with 208 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: the dough locked on a dough, do that kind of thing, 209 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: and see if I can't, you know, get lucky and 210 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: spot something to make a move on it. Um. So, 211 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: So that's the way I'm gonna try to take advantage 212 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: of those hours that might be slower because of the temperatures. 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: And then the evening. You know, I think you know 214 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna see on average, you know, that action is 215 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: going to be closer to dark than maybe it would 216 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: be on a nice cold day in November, but it's 217 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: still gonna happen. So I would say my biggest takeaway 218 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: for the hot rut time period is stay the course, 219 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: keep the faith. It's still possible. There's still rutting. You know, 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: if you've got some water sources, like some little water 221 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: holes ponds back in the cover, that kind of thing 222 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: can be particularly good on these hotter days. Um. I know, 223 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: those things would be pretty good even a normal weather days, 224 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: let alone a hot day during the rut. So he's 225 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: got that. That's one of the things to think about 226 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: adding to your stand set up kind of rotation. But 227 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: that's my quick two sense and I planned, dude, you 228 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: really put this thing together. Oh I'm I've been chomping 229 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: at the bit man for a while. So yeah, I'm 230 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: ready to make it happen. I'm ready to uh, I'm 231 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: ready to just dive into November full force and see 232 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: what happens. Listen. I um, I know Casey, you know 233 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: it's pretty teasy with his pictures, but I don't need 234 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: any of I don't have time for any of that. 235 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: So when you shoot Buck in Nebraska, just straight up 236 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: to send me the hero shot. That's all I want. Well, 237 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: I absolutely oh Casey back though, so like Casey that 238 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to send it to the group, direct 239 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: to you and then to Casey like I'm gonna send 240 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: him a foot and send him a pale. I'm gonna 241 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: send him like a haunch because not only has been 242 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: like one of those, but you guys have killed like 243 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: nineteen deer this year, done that every single one of 244 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: the tiers, So I've got a lot of payback, that's true. 245 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: Definitely send that to you know his way, um first, 246 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: that way, you know, I don't have to. I don't 247 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: want him to be sitting in the truck with me 248 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: and me like, oh Mark killed the buck, you know, 249 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: and then he's gonna make me show him. So yeah, 250 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: go to him first for sure. So yeah, man, it's 251 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: it's it's an amazing time. I'm super excited. I'm I'm 252 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: sorry for you guys and for everyone listening. Uh, this 253 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: is you know, these are some of the best episodes 254 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: of Rough Fresh every year, because you know, stuff changes 255 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: so fast this time of year two. Everyone's excited. Everyone's 256 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: just hoping to hear that a little bit of good news. 257 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: So well, I'm ampt to get into it. I'll be 258 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: listening here. Yeah cool, dude. Well, I hope that things 259 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: go well for you out there in Nebraska. And like 260 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: I said, Sindis pics whenever you get done, and um, 261 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: we'll get to the interviews now. Sounds good? All right? 262 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Now on the phone is Cris b everybody's favorite YouTuber 263 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: at least mine. What's going on? Chris, Well, I pay 264 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: you to say that. Yeah. Yeah, it's the first one 265 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: I've been paid doing that kind of hunting stuff. Good, 266 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: it's good man, just just traveling around shooting box trying 267 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: to at least. Yeah, dude, you've been shooting him lately 268 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: a couple of different states. Uh, recently. Actually, we just 269 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: found out, like today pretty much that you shot a 270 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: deer in Ohio and he looks like a toad? Is 271 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: he a toad? Yeah? He's really nice. He's he's goofy. 272 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: I really don't even know how he's you know, score wise, 273 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: not that I really care, but he's just so goofy. 274 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, but he's cool. He's big, dude, 275 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: So what what kind of tactics were you using to 276 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: get close to this book? Um? So there's these rare 277 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: um yellow acorns that drop, you know, these really weird piles. No, 278 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: but my tax case really went back to Um. I 279 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: picked up this new piece of property like during season 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: uh end of September, and it was just like time 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: to get intel. So in Ohio obviously you can you 282 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: can bait and it can be for you sometimes it 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: can be against you. Like it definitely hurt hurt me 284 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: earlier in the week hunting because it just kept getting 285 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: busted and stuff. But I got some intel and uh, 286 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: there's sparks showed up and kind of hung around. But 287 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: he daylighted for the first time three days ago. So 288 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: I actually jumped in the truck, drove all night, hunted 289 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: that morning that night, didn't see him. Hunted yesterday morning 290 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: and night didn't see him. And I think my access 291 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: is bad. Um. So there was like some clear cuts 292 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: and weird stuff going on, and I was kind of 293 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: bombing through it on my e bike and thinking that 294 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I could just like ripped through it and it'll be 295 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: different than walk in and they won't really scare. But 296 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I like totally flipped my my whole perspective over access 297 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: from a completely different area but still hunting roughly the 298 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: same spot. And um, yeah, man, he came in like 299 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: right at first light this morning. Um, and I think 300 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: I was ten minutes past legal time. Like I was 301 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: like checking my phone, you know, and being like okay, well, 302 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: like I'm good, there we go, you know. And it 303 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: was it was good man. He uh shot him, found 304 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: him about an hour later, and it was just kind 305 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: of textbook it all happened. That's awesome, dude. Congrats on that. 306 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: By the way. Um Man, I've always appreciated your just 307 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: candidness with the the abating thing because a lot of 308 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: people think it's taboo and um, you know, people from 309 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: from states that don't do that, don't you know, they 310 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: have their opinions about it. But as you know, we're 311 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: from Texas and uh we are probait, um and you know, 312 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: pro whatever you however you want to do it. Man, 313 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: it's deer hunting. It's fine, it's legal, you know, so 314 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: um yeah, but that's also always seems like that, like 315 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: what you said, it's like Kentucky, Ohio, everyone's a hundred 316 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: percent for it. But as soon as it's like a 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: guy born and raised in you know, Michiganaigan and even 318 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just like they just put people down 319 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,359 Speaker 1: about it, and I'm just I'm just not about that man. Um. 320 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: It's a really good way to get on deer, particularly 321 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: in a place that, um, it can be difficult otherwise. 322 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's like the weather that's going on 323 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: or the access or what have you, you can make 324 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: a deer move in ways that maybe they wouldn't if 325 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: you're just hunting travel outs and stuff. Uh. And I know, 326 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: like with the upcoming weather for the first week in November, 327 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: everybody is really concerned. How do you feel like, um 328 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: that you know this hot streak we're gonna have the 329 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: first week in November is going to translate your honey woods. 330 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: So that's kind of why I So I live in Iowa, 331 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: and that's kind of why I left because the weather 332 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: wasn't great there, and I left and came to Ohio, 333 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: um to kind of wait out the weather back home. Um, 334 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm taking these days to kind of 335 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: get some more cameras out, maybe hang a couple more stands, um, 336 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: and still like utilizing those days and and still hunting, 337 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: but really not getting my hopes up too much. But 338 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: it's November now, dude, Like it's just anything can happen, um, 339 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: And it's just you gotta you gotta, you know, use 340 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: those warm days, warm windy days in your advantage. But 341 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: maybe reset or you know, get more intel and just 342 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: don't get down about it because I think I'm like 343 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: the fifth, it's gonna like freaking turn right back on 344 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hot. So yeah, so you're you're 345 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: gonna hunt just guessing here you're gonna be sitting in 346 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: funnels in Iowa on the fifth. Yeah, just you know, 347 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: pinches and and just all everything rut related. Man, it's 348 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: just it's just game on. So a lot of be 349 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: bopping around and try and trying to make it happen, 350 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: rattling and just dude, it's just everything next week. That's awesome. 351 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Um, we're a guy who had like 352 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: semi flexible schedule, and you're trying to decide if you're 353 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna take your your long weekend here safe November one 354 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: through seven, or if you're gonna wait later in hope 355 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: that a front room moves in. Would you rather push 356 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: it and try to make it happen in the first 357 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: week or wait and see next week. I for sure 358 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: would push it if I if I had one week, 359 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: I'd wait till like seven, seven through fifteen, somewhere in 360 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: that window. Just these first few days, you know, and 361 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: they start getting lockdown like to like getting those local 362 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: doughs bread and I mean first few days or good 363 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: and then as soon as they get on that lockdown 364 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: and and and chill out, it's not until you know, 365 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: the ninth or ninth or fifteen when they really started 366 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: back up. Yep, those are good dates. Man. Well, I 367 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Um, congrats on that big buck, dude, and uh, 368 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be able to check back with you sometime 369 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: this season to see how things are going. First, before 370 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: we get out of here, though, I want you to 371 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: give me a one to ten rating on buck movement. 372 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: You're predicted buck movement in the next week. Beginning of 373 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: the week like a three. End of the week is 374 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: going to be ten. Oh yes, man, I'm telling you. Yeah. 375 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: Remember remember the fifth November. That's right. I've killed on 376 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: the fourth A couple of dayre on the fourth, I 377 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, it's good dates in there. Man, All right, well, 378 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: best of luck this year, dude. Thanks man, appreciate you. Guys. 379 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: We're on the phone with one and only Clay Nukem. 380 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: He's been doing a little unting up in Arkansas. I 381 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: do believe Clay. What's going on? Man? Hey man, I'm 382 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: doing good and yeah, you're right, I've I've been in 383 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: Arkansas going to Oklahoma today. Actually we actually were just 384 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: told about a little bit of that to uh. We're 385 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: trying to decide where to head because it's such a 386 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: good time of year. Things are right for the picking. 387 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: But we we do want to talk about what's going 388 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: down in Arkansas. What have you been seeing up there 389 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: in the uh in the hills. Man. Yeah, so this 390 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: week I hunted I think three mornings and afternoons, and 391 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: I saw bucks, let's see four four of six sits. 392 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: I saw bucks cruising, just just moving through with their 393 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: heads down. And I saw I saw a buck that 394 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: was a good buck, I mean a three and a 395 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: half year old plus type buck that was chasing those 396 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the afternoon when I was walking 397 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: into a stand. So, I mean, I would I would 398 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: say that it's that it's the last week of October 399 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: here in the Ozarks. Is really just really good? Man, 400 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: It sounds like, man, yeah, yeah, it is. And uh 401 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: that being said, I've also got cameras on on some 402 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: feed and that's always really interesting because you you start 403 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: losing pictures of bucks when they start roaming, you know, 404 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: they're kind of like it on a feed pattern, and 405 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: then they then when you quit getting pictures of deer 406 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: on your feed, usually that means they're really cruising and 407 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: that that seems to that happened really last week. Yeah. 408 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: So I have some friends at hunt up in the 409 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: Arkansas area. Stuff kind of south you though, but uh, 410 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: for them, bears are an issue when it comes to uh, 411 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, dear fee and they mess up their situations 412 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: up there. But you know, for a guy like you, 413 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: that might be a dual purpose feed situation. Is that 414 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: how you treat it? Or do you have problem with bears? Man? 415 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Where I where I'm deer hunting, we don't really have 416 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: many bears at all? Really? How about that? Yeah, because 417 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: you took care of already, didn't you. Well, my situation 418 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: where I'm I'm doing most of my deer hunting is 419 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: really kind of like suburban hunting. Honestly. A lot of 420 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: what I'm doing up here where I live now. Now 421 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I go to and and there's just not bears right here. 422 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: But I do quite a been hunting in in on 423 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: big public land, you know, and there's definitely bears there, 424 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: but you can't hunt a feed so on the private 425 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: land parcels where they're small parcels, which is what I'm 426 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: hunting a lot of. I mean, it's hard to be 427 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: successful without being in the feed game when every everybody's 428 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: got feed out, you know. So it's kind of a 429 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: necessary evil in some ways if you want to if 430 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: you want to play, sure, Yeah, So what when when 431 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: the bucks kind of you know, get to roman like this, 432 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: What are you focused on? Do you still stay on 433 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: the feet and just hope there's enough does around or 434 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: what are there other attributes are different kind of uh 435 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: landscape features. No, I'm not. I'm not hunting the feet 436 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: as much as I am just natural pinch pinch points 437 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: and funnels. And you know, there's just places over the 438 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: years where in the Ozarks, you know, you're just using 439 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: topography that's funneling the here. You know, back edges of 440 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: fields with hollas that come up. I mean, there's just 441 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: every little spot that I do hunt like that that's 442 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: just a funnel, transition area, travel area. Each has its 443 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: own little unique reason why they're coming through there, you know. 444 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: And and really some of those places to you would 445 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: never in your I wouldn't pick them out on on 446 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: and think, man, that is gonna be a good travel area, 447 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: But just having hunted places for a long time, you're 448 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: just like that's where they're going to be. Sure, it's 449 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: sometimes not as distinct as we'd like to hope that 450 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: a travel area would be. So with that, like are 451 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: their native food sources that you look at in the 452 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: next week or so that are going to be really 453 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: a good thing for you know, keeping those around when 454 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: you're looking at funnels between maybe betting or uh feeding 455 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: areas for those, man, it's it's all about the acorns 456 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: right now for us and and probably for almost everybody 457 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: in the eastern deciduous. For us, the white oaks are 458 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna be starting to tail out about right now, even 459 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: though they are white oaks on the ground that are good. 460 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: But if there's red oaks that have made the red 461 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: oaks seem to hold a little bit longer. And so yeah, 462 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: acorns are big, man, and acres it'll pretty widespread this year. 463 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Just to me, like at least for a Hunton, it's 464 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: seems to be we were up in Illinois and it 465 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: was the same thing going on up there, man, Just 466 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 1: lots of acrens on the ground. So if you were 467 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna focus on one tactic for the next week, man, 468 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: what's it gonna be? Just funnels, just places where you're 469 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: gonna see deer movement does and then if you can, 470 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: you can grown them in this time of year or two, 471 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, yep, yep. So if you're if you're in 472 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: a funnel that's a little wider, and some of the 473 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: places I hunt, it feels like you know, within about 474 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: seventy yards where they're gonna be. And uh, but this 475 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: time of year that works pretty good because if you 476 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: can see them, you know they're around. Sometimes you can 477 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: grown them in yep. So if you're gonna rank deer 478 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: movement for this first week in November, buck moving in 479 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: particular from a scale of one to ten. In Arkansas 480 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: what you're gonna call it the Northwest Arkansas, it's as 481 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: good as it gets the first week, but the temperatures 482 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: are gonna be seventy three degrees, so that's gonna put 483 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: a damper on it. But they're still gonna be doing it. 484 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: Just early in late it's gonna be good. Probably mid 485 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: day is gonna be good too, because there yeah, yeah, 486 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when the daylight movement isn't real good, 487 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: mid day is good because they've been bedded since earlier 488 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: in the day. Real cold, it's real cold. They might 489 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: be really move until ten o'clock, just kind of on 490 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: their natural pattern. But you know, if it's warm and 491 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: they they've got a belly full of food and the 492 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: does aren't moving much, they might bed down closer to 493 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: daylight and then but then get up in the middle 494 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: of the day, so man, you know in all days 495 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: good too, even when it's hot. Sorry, scaled one of team. 496 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: What is it perfect? I'm not saying all right now 497 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: a whole on case. Are we talking about with the 498 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: specifics of the weather, or just in general the first 499 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: seven days of November, whichever answer is the most optimistic, 500 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: like just I want to go with it, man, it's personal, man, 501 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: my man, Clay Nucom thanks for the report from Arkansas. Dude, 502 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: you bet all right now on the phone, I've got 503 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: Michael Hunt Sucker from Hartland bow Hunter. We recently talked 504 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: to you. But you're in a different state here that 505 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: not many people hunt for white tails. This is Colorado 506 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: you've been in recently, right, you had some success there? Yeah, man, 507 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: we had a I mean a picture perfect trip. You 508 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't draw it up any better, to be honest, Man, 509 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: it's awesome. That's uh. That buck looks awesome. He's so heavy, dude, 510 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: And just I love when this is one of the 511 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: nd measurables. But like when a deer has times that 512 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: are thick and heavy, you know, like you don't you 513 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: can't measure that, but it's shows for sure when you 514 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: look at a buck and that's one of those bucks 515 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: like that. Man. Yeah, I mean definitely, you know, a 516 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: deal of a lifetime, this unbelievable character, and um, the 517 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: whole story behind it really is what makes it even 518 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: more special. Yeah yeah, So, um, what kind of what 519 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of patterns were you hunting while you're out there? 520 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: So when we got there, you know, I used to 521 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: get there and I'll run cameras and check, um kind 522 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: of see what's been going on. And um, it's it's 523 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: kind of a river river system, and so there's a 524 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: lot of natural pinch points and so that's where the 525 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: cameras kind of are all in national natural pinch points. Um, 526 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, fence crossings, gate gaps, levy crossings, just stuff 527 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: that kind of funnels them down more so than they 528 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: already are, you know, being on the river channel. And 529 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: so um, a big thing for me was right when 530 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I got there, was to start shifting some of those 531 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: two scrapes because I realized, you know, right when I 532 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: got there, I mean, scrapes was blown up everywhere. It 533 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: seemed like the bucks were starting to you know, lay 534 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: down scrapes, check those scrapes and just kind of getting 535 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Nancy for the for the rut to come. Yeah. So 536 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: were they were big deer you in those scrapes? Yeah? Yeah, 537 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: absolutely they they Once we did find some of these scrapes, 538 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: I put a camera on one of them and there 539 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: was probably I don't know five six bucks using it 540 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: and two of them two or three maturity are using 541 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the same scrape. So a little bit territorial in this 542 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: going on there or whatever you whatever you want to 543 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: call it. Technically they're not territorial. I guess we're scrapes, 544 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. Yeah, those uh, those 545 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: communal scrapes get they get hot this time here. Yeah, 546 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: so were they you Did you actually shoot your buck 547 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: over a scrape? Uh? Yeah, I only just made after 548 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: I called him in Oh my good. So I know 549 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: that's a big part of what you'll do in general, 550 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: is the calling thing, right, is it? Uh? Did you 551 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: have to kind of adjust that song because of it 552 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: being late October when you're out there? Is it the normal? 553 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: You know, just see a button getting to hear you. Yeah. So, 554 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a huge fan of calling in certain 555 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: areas Colorado, Eastern Colorado, Western Kansas. Little they kind of similar, um, 556 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, really good, really competitive rep situations. They got 557 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: great buck the door ratios and good good age structure, 558 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: um naturally such as it makes for a great time, um, 559 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, for for calling and grunting. But yeah, so 560 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, we're hunting that basically last 561 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, oh ken days or so of October, and 562 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: it's got one of those deals. I think we got 563 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: there like the eighteenth or something like that. So really 564 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: you know, the third week of October really and so 565 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: it could be you know a little little early for 566 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: a ton of activity. But um, so I'm not blind 567 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: calling by any means, but um definitely had the rattling 568 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: was packed and definitely had they grunt to with me, 569 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: and um it's what it's what killed my dear. Um 570 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, I I I've seen him just kind of 571 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: creeping through We we basically hunted this this basically known 572 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: betting thicket area that that we thought, okay, you know 573 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: a lot of your bed here blocks are going to 574 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: be cruised through here, um, kind of checking for dos. 575 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: And we were able to sneak in um to that spot, 576 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: uh you know, early in the morning, catch him kind 577 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: of coming back in there. And actually that deer was 578 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: literally the first year we saw. It was the first 579 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: thing in the morning, and he was actually heading away 580 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: from us. Um and so had I not grunted got 581 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: his attention and he was interested in come check it out. 582 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: He actually probably a hundred yards away, walking kind of 583 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, catty corner away from us, and I hit 584 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: the ground two. We put this head up and looked 585 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: our way, and it started stiffly walking right to us. 586 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: He got halfway and he held up in the trees 587 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: and he was kind of out of sight from us, 588 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: and I'm watching him and I'm looking for him, looking 589 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: for him, listening for him. I'm like, what the heck, 590 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't hear him, I don't see him. But he 591 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: slipped out on us. What happened? I only hit him 592 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: again with the grunt two, so really soft, just a 593 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: couple of grunts and doing here he came. And so 594 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: he came be lined right to us. And it was 595 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: one of those mornings, super calm, and so you hate 596 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: to call too loud or overcall, because I mean he 597 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: literally pinpointed exactly where that grunt was. Luckily it's super 598 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, that area is super thick, and so they 599 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: were you know there there would be a situation where 600 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, he could hear the ground but not see 601 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: the deer. Dude, that's insane. So if you were going 602 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: to be up there again this week, would you be 603 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: using similar tactics or would you hunt different spots? Would 604 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: you use different tactics and your calling or you know 605 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: what do you think that you would use? Yeah? Pretty similar, 606 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Pretty similar tactics, maybe a little more aggressive. I mean 607 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: it's getting to the points where, um, I running camera's 608 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: notice and the deer starting to break break some times. 609 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: And actually, so after I shot my buck, you know, 610 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: one of the biggest year, and when you were talking 611 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: about the giant with the double drop times, you know, 612 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: we we would really obviously he had been super regular 613 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: all year, and my buddy Tony, Um, you know, he 614 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: actually had some history with this deer, so he had 615 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: shot him last year. So I I kind of stayed 616 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: stayed clear with that deer, go to the hunt I got. 617 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I was able to kill my buck, you know, the 618 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: third day of our hunt, and then he was coming 619 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: in like the fourth day or fifth day, and so 620 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: I got to hunt with him, um the next few days, 621 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: and we actually decoyed that buck in with the with 622 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: the decoy and so um, it's just seemed to be 623 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: that time man, we had we had seen him. We 624 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: hunted the night before and Brandon was scouting um and 625 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: he Brandon laid eyes on him, um, and he came 626 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: out and like bumps and does made a scrape. Um. 627 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: He ended up meeting up with a little spike buck 628 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: and kind of got progressive towards him, and then the 629 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: spike buck obviously back down and then they were kind 630 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: of just being buddies. But it's it was just like 631 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: I told brand I was, we're gonna sit there where 632 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: you saw him last night. We're sitting there with the decoy. Um. 633 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: And mainly because he was coming out and doing alfalfa 634 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: field and it's a just a big field and so 635 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: the odds of him like walking right past us. I 636 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: was like, I don't really like our odds is our 637 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: last night going to be there? And so we we 638 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: deployed the decoy, and I didn't didn't work textbooks to 639 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: the to the decoy, you know what the decoy situation 640 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: would normally work. But it worked. So that's awesome. So 641 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: if you were gonna put a number on it on 642 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: a scale from one to ten, for eastern Colorado for 643 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: the first weekend November coming up here? What's the buck 644 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: movement gonna be like? Man, I honestly haven't looked at 645 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: the weather, but I'm gonna say I'm gonna give it 646 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: an eight right now. And I want to give it 647 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: a zero because I'm a bow hunter and I can't hunt. 648 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: But it's hilarious, all right. If you got a tag 649 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: for rifle out there, you know it's a zero. Mon 650 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: Sucker said, there's no reason to go. It's hilarious. Man. Yeah, 651 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: it's a great time of the year. We're all excited 652 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: about it. Mike. Thanks for the great information, dude. Yeah, 653 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: you bet. We have got Josh Hilliard with First Lot 654 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: on the phone right now. He has been hunting in Michigan. Josh, 655 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: what's been going on date? Well, hey, guys, thanks for 656 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on first Um. Man, it has 657 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: been uh, it's been slow going for me here in Michigan. 658 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: Um last week or so, um hunting a hunting a 659 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: few times under last week and finally started to see 660 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: some uh, some young bucks starting to cruise and and 661 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: and moving, um, you know, a little later into the morning. 662 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: But other than that, man, it's been it's been real 663 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: slow for me here in Michigan. St. Yeah, I can 664 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: sympathize with you. Had some slow hunts here in the 665 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: light October two, and I think that's the way it goes. 666 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: But traditionally, do you see good movement in light October 667 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: in Michigan. I think it's pretty car. I think it's UM. 668 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: I think it just kind of depends on on where 669 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: you're at. Like I've seen some some good movement in 670 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: late October on this little piece that I hunt, and 671 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: it's also been slow like this um as well. So 672 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: I think it's all just kind of dependent on you 673 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: get a if you get a dough that comes in 674 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: to ask just a little early and you can really 675 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of get them get them picked up. But UM, 676 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: with that being said, I've actually had a couple of 677 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: different um mature bucks move into my little, my little 678 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: lease here in the last like two days. So that's 679 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: that's a positive that I'm just kind of buying my 680 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: time to get out. Um just with family stuff going, 681 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to get out the last two 682 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: days unfortunately, So UM tomorrow tomorrow, start hitting it hard 683 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: on some of these some of these beers. First couple 684 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: of shooters I've had in cameras since like September one, 685 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: So it's just been a wittle year for for this 686 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: little piece of property that a hunt. But there's usually 687 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: a good, good one or two that that strolled through 688 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: here this time of year. So looks like it's starting 689 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: to happen. That season long date is is very healthful, 690 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine, and I bet that there's some benefit 691 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: to Michigan being a high pressure state. From what we 692 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: hear from everybody, I don't know, you all seem to 693 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: kill a bunch of big bucks, so I feel like 694 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fluff because Mark killed a big 695 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: one my first weekend. But all things considered, you staying 696 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: off the property because there's not a ton of shooters 697 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: there early I bet can benefits you later as November 698 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: pushes on. Yeah, I think that's kind of been my 699 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: game plan. I always tell myself every you're like, okay, 700 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be aggressive, like early season. Um, there's there's 701 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: quite a few years that get killed um in that neighborhood, 702 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: like early October. Um. So every year I tell myself 703 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that, and then this year, of course, 704 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm gone on a on a trip first week of October, 705 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: so I really only hunted a handful of times, just 706 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: been pretty selective about when I'm going out there. Um 707 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a small piece of forty acres, 708 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: so it can get blown up pretty quickly and a 709 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: lot of hunting pressure around. So I've just tried to 710 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: do my best to be patient and stay often until 711 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: I know, um, you know, either time frame like this 712 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: time of year, um with the rut kicking off, or 713 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: if I've got one that's that's consistently showing up kind 714 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: of that late October and then make a strike. But 715 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: I just haven't had that, so I've tried to just 716 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: be selected when I'm going out there. Right, So in 717 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: this next week, the first week in November, here are 718 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: you what are you focusing on? Like what tactics are 719 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: you gonna be using to try to get in front 720 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: of bucks? So I'm just trying to get between some 721 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: betting areas and this this piece of property I've got 722 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: like um a standard like Conifers that's like ten acres 723 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: and it's some of the best betting in the area. Um. 724 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: But there's a couple of other betting areas on neighboring properties. Um. 725 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of different travel corridors that these 726 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: bucks traditionally used to get back and forth between these 727 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: these betting areas. So I'm just trying to get on 728 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: the downland side of these these betting areas pretty pretty standard, 729 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, rut um tactics, trying to get trying to 730 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: get myself between these betting areas where there's these bucks 731 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: are gonna be traveling. Um. It's kind of a it's 732 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of a piece of property that has some good 733 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: topography for like southern Michigan, um, so it kind of 734 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: dictates some of the travel There's I've got a couple 735 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: of stands where a couple of different ridges kind of 736 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: converge and dump into uh, pretty heavily used travel corridor. Um. 737 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: To get into this this pine stand. That's I've had 738 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: multiple opportunities that here and that spot and a couple 739 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: other spots too, um that are very similar. So they 740 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: seem to be from from some of the data I've 741 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: got with cameras out there right now, they seem to 742 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: be hitting one side of these pines pretty heavily right now. 743 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: So I'm just I was going to go this morning, 744 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: but I had a horrible win for that location. So 745 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: trying to trying to be patient and get out there 746 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: tomorrow and get after him when things kind of turn 747 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: him off. Favor smart man making smart moves. I like it, dude. 748 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see how it plays though. Uh 749 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: we like to say we'll see what happens. You know, 750 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: we actually have a role where that costs you five 751 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: dollars if you said so, way to go, Josh. You 752 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: avoided that. Um, So looking forward, Um, the first week 753 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: in November, we all know is to be like this 754 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: is what we want to hunt, right, yeah, for real? 755 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl, the World Cup, whatever you call it, right, 756 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: World Series? Man? That the Astros World Cup? Is that? 757 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: Is that the way you look at it too? In 758 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: Michigan with yeah, I think for sure, Like it's kind 759 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: of first two weeks in November are are just usually 760 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: pretty darn good up here, and you're kind of running 761 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: up against our rifle season starts November first, No, so 762 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: you're kind of down to the wire here. Um, if 763 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get it done with the bow, like now 764 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: now is the time, you know it's it's once those 765 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: done start cracking off here in Michigan, there's there's a 766 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of them out there in 767 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: the woods from November, so it just gets exponentially harder. Um. 768 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, these these first two weeks in November specifically, 769 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: I I really like the first week. Um, start to 770 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: get a little later in the November, you start to 771 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: experience in the lockdown all that good stuff. So now 772 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: now is the time and and uh, man, if you 773 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: can get out in the woods, be in the woods 774 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: right now, well put a number on between one and ten, 775 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: which you expect buck movement to be like this week? Man, Um, 776 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: I hope it's a ten, right. Uh. I don't think 777 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: it will. I mean, we're I don't know about you guys. Um, 778 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't like this time of year. I'm not as 779 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: concerned about weather and temperatures. But man, we're supposed to 780 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: be up into the seventies, um, like high sixties, low 781 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: seventies by the weekend, which is you know, abnormally warm 782 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: for up here this time of year. So um, you 783 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: know they're still gonna be rotten, they're still gonna be moving. 784 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: I think that may impact a little bit about like 785 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: daylight movement, what you're seeing, Um, just just with the 786 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: competrys I'm gonna say, like a seven point five alright, 787 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: ill like it still passing grade. Sounds good, dude, I 788 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: used to I used to shoot for that in college 789 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot man. Yeah, that's good stuff, Josh hoping you 790 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: went up on a big one out there. Man. We 791 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: appreciate the info. Well, thanks, guys. Appreciate you guys having 792 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: me on. It is time to make this a November 793 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: to remember. Guys. The deally is the bucks are gonna 794 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: chase the doughs and they're gonna do the thing, no 795 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: matter what the weather, what the pressure, what's going on. 796 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: So be excited because we live for this time of year. 797 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: It is the most exciting time of the year as 798 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: a deer hunter. If you need some motivation or some 799 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: inspiration of what you should be doing in the woods 800 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: or why you should get in the woods at all, 801 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: you should check out episode five nine one of the 802 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast. It's about patterning bucks during the rut. 803 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: And then also Tony Peterson has a cool article about 804 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: five mistakes that hunters make during the rut. If you 805 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: want to see some hot Texas pre reaction, the Element 806 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: went down to some good old river bottoms here in 807 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: East Texas and actually try to scratch one out. Got 808 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: really close. You just need to watch the video and 809 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: see what that's about. We'll put the links to that 810 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: stuff in the description below. This is rough fresh, Keep 811 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: it fresh.