1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twenty six, twenty twenty, season sixteen, 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: episode number fifty one. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: The Break. We're live from this s WBC Mortgage studios 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: at the Star. We are in a great mood this morning, 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: ready to get going, ready to talk about that Cowboys 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: game yesterday. Was not a good outcome for the Cowboys. 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: They lose twenty five five to three to the Washington 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: football team. But we're all here together and we're all 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: healthy and we get to talk football. So hey, there's 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: a bright side to everything. Right, how's everybody doing this morning? 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I was wondering what that butt was for. I was like, please, 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: don't try to throw something positive at me right now. No, 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: no, no no, that's You're right. We're all healthy at this 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: healthy and fine, So that's nice. At this point. The 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: positives are not about the Cowboys. For me, the positives 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: are not about football. My Texas long one to just 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: as bad. So right now, like that's not the positive. 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Positive in life is that we're all here, We're all alive. 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: None of us have COVID. That's a great thing, right, 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: so we should be happy about that. And let's talk 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: some football, right right, let's go, Nick, you just got 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: off a right, Nick, you just got off a plane. 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: I guess not just but you you were on a 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: plane yesterday coming back from Washington. We're gonna start with 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: some big picture storylines, but like you just to talk 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about what you saw from this team 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: postgame plane? Yeah, Like, because I think they're a lot 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: of people that are looking at this team like, man, 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: what was that and what is this team at this point? Well, 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the one thing I was happy to see was Andy 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Dalton able to just go go where's the bus? This way? 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Where we having to eat? And that's a good thing. 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so that that was good because he obviously 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: left the field and he needed help doing that, so 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: that it was a good sign. Don't know what that 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: means as far as this week, but I know that 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as it is. It you know, 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: obviously could have been. I was quiet flight back, you 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: know you I wasn't expecting, you know, a lot of 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: music or dancing or any of that stuff. I haven't 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: really heard that at all. Of course they have. They've 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: lost every road game this year, so maybe that Dave's 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: not on the plane anymore. So that helps. Why just 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: you don't have all the gambling and drinking and frivolous 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: stuff that happened. Always call him back there. Um. Anyways, 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: it just it was a bad I mean, it was 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: just a bad vibe because it was a bad game, 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: and it was it was, you know, the worst game 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: that I can ever I do sometime I don't remember 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: remember one like this where it was just so bad 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: green Bay. I don't know, No, that wasn't baby. It 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: felt like it to me a little bit, like I 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: don't know, yeah that was that was kind of that way. 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: But green Bay was good. That's the thing. Green Bay 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: went super Bowl that you're yeah, yeah that so that 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: was a good team. That was a good quarterback who 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: deserves to be a starting quarterback. Point So no, this 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: was this was a really really really really bad game 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: all right, Let's get some big picture storyline takes from 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Amber and Dave. Amber, I want to start with you. 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: I watched the game with you yesterday and with Dave, 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: and I could just see it the wheels turn into 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: your mind. I knew you had something for me, So 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: bring it. Let's go what you got Amber? Bring it well? 71 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm wearing black because I'm warning today 72 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and the season like, I am so over it, but 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: we gotta keep going. Um No, the big picture is 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: at this point, I look at it. Who do we 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: need to say bye too? Who are we saying bye 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: to this week? Is it a player? Is it a coach? 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: And there needs to be a major change or it's 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of hard to make major changes right now, but 79 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: there needs to be some type of change, some type 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: of repercussion. If you could, like lower someone's salary based 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: on their game performance, I wish you could do that, 82 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: but you can't. This is just terrible. It is absolutely terrible. 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: And the worst part of it is that after that game, 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: there's absolutely nothing that makes me feel a little sign 85 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: of hope, you know, like there's nothing whatsoever. The only 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: thing is maybe the kicker we haven't talked about Greg 87 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Sterling really missing a field goal or an extra point 88 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: except for that one long one a few weeks ago, 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: but other than that, there's nothing that seems very positive 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: at this point. Dave big picture. The big picture for 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: this team is that they are fundamentally broken. There is 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: something wrong in that building right now. I don't know 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: what it is. I wish we had better access. I 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: wish there wasn't a pandemic, so maybe we could get 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: a better grasp. But you cannot look at that result 96 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: yesterday and tell me that this is a cohesive team, 97 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: that this is a bought in team, that this is 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: a team that cares about each other. Drastically, for lack 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: of a better way to put it, they got run 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: out of the building by arguably the worst team in 101 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: the league. Like they didn't lose. This wasn't like a scrappy, 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: ugly game like I thought it was gonna be. You know, 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be this terrible, scrappy, you know, 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen game. It wasn't that at all. They got 105 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: run out of the building by arguably the worst team 106 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: in the league. They do not look like they care, 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: and like I said, like I don't know if the 108 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: players hate the coaches. I don't know if the players 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: hate each other. But there's something there's something wrong. You 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: cannot convince me otherwise. I pulled up the quote from 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence yesterday. He said we need more belief, which 112 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: shouts out to Nick for getting it. I really appreciate you, man, 113 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: because that can't be fun. No, that cannot be fun 114 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: being down there with those guys. Um. He says, we 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: need more belief, more high spirits around this team, and 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: really more fight. That's one of our weaknesses. We need 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: to build a stronger backbone. I mean, is that not 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: just the most damning quote you've heard in a long 119 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: freaking time. Yeah, it's kind of interesting because we I'll 120 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: speak for myself. I made fun of happening to I 121 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: made fun of all of the you know, the fight 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: shirts and all that kind of stuff that we're a 123 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: part of the Garrett era. But the one thing, and 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: it was up until last year. Last year was the 125 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: first time I ever saw at a Garrett led team 126 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys that didn't have that level of fighting him. 127 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: You remember back to the season when he took off 128 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: halfway through the season, they were all but did. But 129 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: they played didn't play like it like they played down 130 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: the stretch as as good a football as you could 131 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: expect from a bad team, right and throughout throughout his 132 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: time here with the Cowboys, that's what we got accustomed 133 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: to seeing with the Cowboys, even when they were bad, 134 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: you rarely left games saying, man, they just didn't feel it. 135 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: They didn't feel like that team was was really in 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: the game. It felt like yesterday and it felt like 137 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: for a while now this team is just not in it. 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Do you guys think that maybe what's happening here is 139 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: you lose so many players that you just don't have 140 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: that cohesion, You don't have that that real brotherhood for 141 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: lack of a better word, that sometimes you need in 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: order to kind of go through what you have to 143 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: go through as a football team to be successful. Nick, 144 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah, I mean that that's not 145 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: their guy dying down there, you know. And that's that's 146 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the sad part. Is it used to be I thought, 147 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, put it on the uniform, in the star 148 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: and the helmet and all that stuff, that was that 149 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: was the team. But I mean, if DA got hit 150 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: like that, do you think everybody do you think anybody 151 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: does anything. I don't know what we talked about just 152 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago how this team acted. Yea, when 153 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Dak was laying on the field, it was very different. Right. 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Let me also say this though, and I wrote this 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: in the column kind of down at the bottom. Maybe 156 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: should have led with it. They they did a video 157 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: that said, let's win, let's win for Dak. Let's do 158 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: it for Dak, d for Dak. God. I hope not. 159 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: I hope this isn't doing it for Dak. This this really, 160 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: this is it, Like, this is what you like, We're 161 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna do it for him. He deserves more than that. 162 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: The fans deserved more than that. All right, So let's 163 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk a little bit about some of 164 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: the moments that mattered. And quite frankly, I think all 165 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: those moments happened in the first half. I think this 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: game was a game in the first half, and I 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: think by halftime it was over. Yeah, can you just 168 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: start with me, because no one's play, nobody's play is 169 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: going to be before mine. First play the game, first 170 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: play the game, handoff to Peyton Barber. I mean, who's 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: that Peyton Barber against the ball, gets a one yard, 172 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: gets hit for one yard, kept going, kept fighting, he's spuned. 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: He got five yards on that play should have been 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: stopped for one. That was the tone of the entire game. 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: It was that. It was this, they're there, they're in 176 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: the position, but they just can't make the play. And 177 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: you can't give Washington better field position, I mean better situations. 178 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: You need to keep them in third and nine, third 179 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: and eight. And it was just plays like that, that's 180 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: just lack of effort, tackling, what technique whatever. It was 181 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: first play of the game that set the tone right there, 182 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: and then they were able to do whatever they wanted 183 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: to run in the ball. And but what was your 184 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: moment that mattered well? To me, it was okay, you 185 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: see the Washington offense moving along, then the defense he's 186 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: able to stop them from getting a touchdown right there, 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, all right. Then the next way, 188 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: Colways got the ball. First play, okay, a little rush 189 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: by um um, oh my god, Andy Dalton. I forgot 190 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: his name for a second, for Dalton. Then the next 191 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: one the Colways getting huh, I said, so did he 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: but sorry, we're good. So he's good. Anyways, they get 193 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: pushed back and then they end up Washington gets up, 194 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: ends up getting the safety, and right there, it's like, 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: right at the beginning of the game, basically you realize, man, 196 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those games just by 197 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: that play. I mean, nothing else after that looked good whatsoever. 198 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: They just couldn't get anything moving. The defense could not 199 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: stop them at all. But it was that specific play 200 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: that's safety, that just told you what kind of game 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: that was gonna be. Dave, what was the moment that 202 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: matter for you? I don't know what's more embarrassing. The 203 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys are my internet connection, but I all one in 204 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: the same, Dave, all one in the same. It's just 205 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's just that kind of year, man. Um. 206 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: The moment, the moment, honest, this is gonna sound this 207 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: is gonna sound revisionist. Um. But when they when when 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Pollard had that kick return, it ran three plays and 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: kicked the field goal and just looked completely flaccid doing so, 210 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be bad. Like, yeah, 211 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry, poor choice of words, but like 212 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: that that it was so so unimpressive, so uninspiring. They finally, 213 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, an element of their team other than the 214 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: offense finally moved the ball and that was what they 215 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: came up with. Uh, and you just kind of made 216 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: you think today's gonna be rough, and it was, Yeah, 217 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of how the rest of this thing's 218 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna roll. I think is there's gonna be moments like 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: that when where choice will probably be a little bit questionable. Um, 220 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: go ahead, day. What were you saying? I just I 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: feel like y'all problem covered it while I was dealing 222 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: with my WiFi. What I'm gonna say is all these 223 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: same problems year when they were slugging away to eight 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: and eight, but you had your Dak Prescott's and your 225 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith's drownedgging you along the way, and those guys 226 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: aren't there now, and what's left is really uninspiring. And 227 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: I just I don't think they have it from a 228 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: mental standpoint, and that what concerns me is again, like 229 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I keep using twenty fifteen as an analogy, that was 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: just that was a team that cared but didn't have 231 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: the talent. You know, they lost a lot of games 232 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter because they didn't have a good quarterback. 233 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: But you know they really they never truly just got 234 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: their doors blown off. I think this is gonna get 235 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: a whole lot worse somebody fixes whatever's going wrong. From 236 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: an intangible standpoint, like this team is not together, and 237 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: until that changes, I would imagine they're gonna get their 238 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: ass kicked like this a lot. Yep. And I don't 239 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that they can solve the problems that 240 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: they have right now. I don't know that they can 241 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: solve those problems this year. The way I look at 242 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: it is, at this point, this coaching staff, this front office, 243 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to figure out what players they want 244 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: to keep and what players they want to discard, and 245 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: they need to start thinking about next year, because you're 246 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: not gonna get better like right now. Big part of 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: the problems is just not good. Like the players that 248 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: are out there are just not good. You can look 249 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: at other years where you're like, Okay, well you miss 250 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: your quarterback, but you still got your offensive line, you 251 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: still got your running game, you still got an average defense. 252 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: If you play really hard, you might be able to 253 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: make yourself look average. Right right now, their players are bad, 254 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: and that's why it's looking so poorly. I think right now, 255 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's it's even worse when 256 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: you put on top of that the fact that I 257 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: don't think the coaches are really doing them any favor. 258 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: We'll go to the poem at the moment that mattered 259 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: for me, and it was Washington's up nine to three. 260 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: It's ten forty eight left in the second quarter. Dallas 261 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: as the ball fourth and one at the Washington forty 262 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: five fourth and one, and they decide they're gonna throw 263 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: the ball down field. In completion, they give the ball 264 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: back to Washington with great field position, mind you, for 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: a defense that hasn't been able to stop anyone. Two 266 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: plays later, fifty two yard touchdown to McLaren, and that 267 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: to me was into the ballgame. Like when they when 268 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: they jumped up there at that point it was at 269 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: fifteen to three. My thought was, there's no because they 270 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: don't have the power offensively to be able to come 271 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: back in those kinds of games, and and they're in 272 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: that particular instance, that to me was about coaching. That 273 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: is a bad decision. Knowing you have fourth and one, 274 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: you have a defense that can't stop anyone. If you 275 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: don't convert this, you got one or two options. You 276 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: can use a punt it, or you do something that's 277 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: a much higher percentage play than what you decided on. 278 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: But they opted to go for a lower percentage play 279 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: and put their defense in a horrible situation. To me, 280 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: that's bad coaching. Yep, And I'd like to see that play. 281 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't really want to watch the game at all, 282 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: but that's the one player I would have liked to 283 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: see him again. In the third down, I thought he 284 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: got that first down. I did too. I thought it 285 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: kind of thought he got over thinking maybe they should 286 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: have challenged that. Yeah, but that just kind of shows 287 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: this is why, like in high school football, the one 288 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: A two A teams don't play the six A teams 289 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: because as the offensive line, they don't have the big 290 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: guys to do it. This is what it felt like 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: to me. That was the JV against the varsity. They 292 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: can't move the ball. They showed that because they were like, well, okay, 293 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: we can't run the ball if the middle was zeke. 294 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: So we've already drawn them off sides once. That won't 295 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: work again, let's just try it. I mean, like running 296 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: that I would have punted. Now, who knows where that 297 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: ball would have gone, but I would have would have 298 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, I would have tried to punt. I guess 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: at that point, if you don't think you can get 300 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: a yard, then I would take forty. Yeah, I would 301 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: with the punt. But but the one thing you could 302 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: say in the scattering report, at least of this Washington 303 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: team is the one area up front where they tend 304 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: to be a little more vulnerable was in stopping the 305 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: run and typically running right at them. So to me, 306 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: you at least have to test it out and try 307 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: it right. You have to at least test them if 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: you're going to go for it on fourth and one, 309 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a higher percentage play. Then deciding that 310 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: you're just gonna throw a ball down field trying to 311 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: get a screen. I'm not saying yeah, and it didn't work, 312 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: and it didn't work, Go ahead, Dave. I'm not saying 313 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: you're wrong, But those guys were getting ragged alled all day. Absolutely. 314 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't know if charging up 315 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: the gun on Jonathan Allen and Deron Payne's gonna work. 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: Maybe not. I'm saying it is a higher percentage play. 317 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: You could do the exact same thing as what you 318 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: did the play before, and as Nick said, I thought 319 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: they got the first down on the play before try 320 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: it again. I think that is a higher percentage play 321 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: than anything else you could call in your playbook against 322 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: that front on a fourth and one. Maybe I'm wrong. 323 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our first break. When we 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna dive a little deeper into the offense, 325 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: the pass offense, the rush offense, and we also have 326 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: to talk about this defense when we come right back. 327 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. We're back in 328 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: a tasty treat that's sweeping airwaves and taste buds. It's 329 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: new Doctor Pepper and creep Soda. 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That's a forty seven percent 367 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: completion rate. He had seventy five passing yards, He had 368 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: zero touchdowns, he had one interception, a thirty six point 369 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: one quarterback rating, and was sacked three times. Dad to that, 370 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: Ben Denucci came in and he went two of three 371 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: and at thirty nine yards, zero touchdown, zero interceptions, and 372 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: he two was sacked three times. We talked all last 373 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: week about how good this Rossington front was, but did 374 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: you expect the Cowboys to get dominated as much as 375 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: they were dominated yesterday? Nick? No, I mean, and there's 376 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: no excuses to anything, but the rain absolutely messed up 377 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: any chance that they had to do anything because of where, 378 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: of how they are built. I mean, it just they 379 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball. They're not physical enough affront to run. 380 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: The only way you're gonna be able to do that 381 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: is the quick passes get the ball out. Gallup didn't 382 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: have a catch, CD didn't have a catch even though 383 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: he had plenty of chances. I mean, he had his 384 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: worst game of his career, and it just the passing 385 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: game needed to be there to offset that. So you 386 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: can't do that, and now you have to run and 387 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: you're not strong enough to run the middle. You know 388 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: it's bad when you can't. You're not strong enough to 389 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: run up the middle, you're not fast enough to run 390 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: to the outside, and the ball's not going to be caught. 391 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: In the passing game, Well, you're gonna get three points 392 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: based off your long kickoff return and that's it. Amber. 393 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly didn't expect it to be this 394 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: bad the way that he ended up happening. But there's 395 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: such a lack of chemistry. I mean, we keep talking 396 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton trying to get rid of the ball 397 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: quicker and that's gonna help them offensively, but at the 398 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: same time, the lack of chemistry I mean, you can't 399 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: really do that when you don't have that connection with 400 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: your wide receivers as opposed to what we're used to 401 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: seeing with Dad and the receivers that sometimes, I mean, 402 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: the guy just needs to turn around and then Dad 403 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: knows exactly where he's gonna be, where he's gonna get 404 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, and then the guy's gonna catch it, 405 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to Andy Dalton. I mean, they're really lacking that. 406 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: There's no flow or just connection there. There's no like, Okay, 407 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: I know exactly where you're gonna run and where you're 408 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna be, and I'm going to you like in this place. 409 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna throw it to you. So it's 410 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: it's it's bad because when there's not when you don't 411 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: have that, there's no way that you can keep asking 412 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton to get rid of the ball faster so 413 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: that the defensive players are just not like completely attacking 414 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: him and throwing him on the ground. Dave, I mean, 415 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: I picked Dallas to win this game, so I can't. 416 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say I told you so 417 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: too much. But yeah, I mean I did think that 418 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: the Washington Front was gonna really be tough for them, 419 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: that it's the most important thing and it's their biggest 420 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: strength against the cowboy's biggest weakness. I had a feeling 421 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: it might look kind of ugly, but the thing for 422 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: me is, and you know, I need to go back 423 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: and watch it again. But I didn't get the sense 424 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: that it looked the offense looked different, Like it didn't 425 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: really look like they tried to change what they would 426 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: normally do, which is a mistake. Like you should be 427 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: going into that game thinking we're gonna really have to 428 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: pull some tricks out of the box and play a 429 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: different style of offense than what we've been doing. Like 430 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: you can't roll out there with the same core plays 431 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: from when you thought you had all your guys and 432 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: expected to work. You know, CD Dalton Dalton probably has 433 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: another fifty sixty passing yards if CD Lamb plays another 434 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: better game. I mean, that's neither here nor there. I 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: don't know if that means they win, but certainly didn't 436 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: get any help from him. And then was Gallop even 437 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: targeted once? If he was targeted, it was like it 438 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: was one time, one time. Actually it says on the 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: thing it says twice, but I remember once because I 440 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: ask you when he when the one time when I 441 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: remember I asked you, Dave, I was like, as he 442 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: is that the first time he's been targeted. I don't 443 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: remember him being targeted a second time, but yeah, it 444 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: says two. It just didn't feel like they were all 445 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: in plays to offset the fact that they didn't have 446 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: an offensive line. In my opinion, like a lot of 447 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: slow developing stuff, a lot of the you know, a 448 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff we've seen in the first 449 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: six weeks, which is fine when everybody's healthy, but they're not. 450 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: Didn't feel like they adapted very well and they paid 451 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, you know. One of the challenges was, 452 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't know even if it was slow developing stuff 453 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: as much as like over there on the right side, 454 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: dared still. So many times I saw saw guys just 455 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: run right around him and literally it was almost as though, 456 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, in practice they have those those big dummies. 457 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: It looked like the weebele wobble you have when you 458 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: were a kid. You punch it and it kind of 459 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: pops back up. Like it looked like he was just 460 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: that He's just like a stanchion that they just kind 461 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: of put in a certain spot and the guy just 462 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: needs to run around it to get to the quarterback 463 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: and kind of hit the arm of the thing and 464 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: then he's at the quarterback. That's what it looked like. 465 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: And so I don't even know if if the play 466 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: calling was necessarily the problem. And by the way, they 467 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: also had some plays yesterday where they had to tight 468 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: end stay into block and they got run around too. 469 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: So I don't even know. And that's a question I 470 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: have for you. And he got completely run over. Yeah, yeah, 471 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's I don't even know at this point, 472 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: but I have the question for you, guys, So figure 473 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: it out. Um, what could Dallas do differently? Where could 474 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: they maybe help themselves a little bit? Knowing that you're 475 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: so completely overmatched between your offensive line and their defensive line, 476 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: what else could they do at this point? Dave, I mean, 477 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I'm not sure. I'm not sure 478 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: there's a great answer, And and you know it's I 479 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: look back on a day like today and I'm I'm 480 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: mad at myself because I'm like, you saw the indicators 481 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: that this was a bad matchup, and you went with 482 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys anyway, Maybe it was almost like blind hope 483 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that, I mean, that's tough, Nick, 484 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: Nick said it, and I agree, Like you know, I've 485 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: covered a lot of bad high school football in my life, 486 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: and that's what that looked like. Like when you're when 487 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: you're overmatched like that, it's hard to even play what 488 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: resembles actual football, you know, And it's I mean, I'm 489 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: not convinced there was a lot more they could have done, 490 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: Like like I said, you know, maybe maybe if CD 491 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: plays a better game, they move the ball a little 492 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: bit better and they kick another field goal. But I 493 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: don't know that there's a lot they could have done 494 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: to drastically improve what we saw. Nick, you know, I mean, 495 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: you know I said, I said the stat in the pregame. 496 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, they Jordan Mills was on the practice squad. 497 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: They brought him up. I mean, he's got eighty four starts. 498 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: The reason why I brought that up is because the 499 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: combined starts for the five guys was seventy seven. So 500 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is is that combined for the five 501 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: five five forty two from camp, twenty seven for for 502 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: the Connor too, for be honest, zero for McGovern and 503 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Steele has six and I just feel like they. I mean, 504 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: why bring Jordan Mills here if he's not I mean 505 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: he's He's faced some really good players in his career. Now, 506 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: I know it's not been pretty. People that have said 507 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Bears fans will tell you, man, he was not good. 508 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: But he's been in the league eight years. They said 509 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the same thing about Colombo willing to give it a shot. 510 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens, right, I mean, Kenny get 511 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: me worse, it will be my question. I mean, no 512 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: other than me and other than the four of us 513 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: to play on the line. No, yeah, right, that could 514 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: get worse. It's bad. It was just it was bad. 515 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I wouldn't have put Andy Dalton 516 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: in the in the under center so much. You know. 517 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: I tried to mention it in a meeting today. I 518 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: asked the question about Looney and like, oh we are 519 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: now we're waiting on Joe Looney come back. Well, yeah, yeah, 520 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: I'd rather Joe Looney than be Oddish. And I don't 521 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: think I don't think they'll do that because they, you know, 522 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: looking for the future. But I'm be honest, doesn't have 523 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: it right now. He's not he's not ready. I mean, 524 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: get Zach Martin back, you get Looney back, you got 525 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: Connor cam Irving, maybe you have a better right tackle. 526 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Maybe Brandon I can come back at some point. I 527 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: know he's on ir I mean, they're gonna have to 528 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: pieces together. You can't just look at next year. You 529 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't Zack Martin. You have to 530 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: come back. He comes back, and then you know what 531 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I think I would do, And I'm the guy that 532 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm the guy that didn't want to do this when 533 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: things were a little more normal. But when Zach and 534 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: when Zach and Joe are healthy, I'm putting Joe at 535 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: right guard and Zach at right tackle because that gives 536 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: me a chance to function at least, which is more 537 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: than we've been able to say for the last couple 538 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: of games. You know, if you have a side, you 539 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: can at least get some level of reliability with right 540 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: You know what I thought you were gonna say is 541 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: move Connor to write tackle. Would I would look at that. 542 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: If they don't want to do that, that's fine, Yeah, 543 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I would look at that too, That's but they gotta 544 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: do something. I leaned towards Zach because I've seen him 545 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, man. That doesn't mean Connor can't do 546 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: it though, but I would be happy if they take 547 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: Connor and put him at one tackle and they take 548 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Zach and put him at the other tackle. You can 549 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: figure out what you're gonna do. Maybe Looni's at guard, 550 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: and maybe you stick with McGovern at the other guard, 551 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: and you got be honest in the middle. I just 552 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: feel like right now, right now, yesterday you saw a 553 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: turnstyle at both tackle spot, like there was there were 554 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: there were times when it was like the two defensive 555 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: ends were like, okay, I get to the quarterback before 556 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: you can, and then they get there and like give 557 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: each other a high five at the quarterback. Like It's 558 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: just you need to at least shore up that part 559 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: of it. And if you can show up that part 560 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: of it, then I think in the middle at least 561 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: there's some help because a lot of times that center 562 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: can kind of go one way or the other and 563 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: kind of help out with a guy. You got a 564 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: little bit more flexibility of how you can help in 565 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: the middle than you can on the outside. Most of 566 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: the times those guys are isolated. I take what at 567 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: this point I guess we all would probably agree are 568 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: your two best offensive linemen lineman they have both played 569 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: tackle in college. Put about there and let's see what happens. 570 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? I don't know. You look 571 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: at I don't disagree. Well, who's the quarterback? Well, it's 572 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to be Andy, Okay. How tall is he? 573 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Six one? Tall enough? Foot? Now? I know, I know, 574 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: But what I'm asking is is that do you take 575 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: the only six foot I don't know, six two sixty three. Really, yeah, 576 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't know he's tall enough. You're right. The reason 577 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: why I'm asking is that do you take the Saints approach? 578 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, because Drew Brees has played there forever, he's 579 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: not the tall quarterback ever. They look at it like 580 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: they protect the end side, you know, center a guard 581 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: the outside of the tackles that they kind of rotated 582 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: them basically to give him a lane to throw the 583 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: ball and to look over. And I just kind of 584 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: wonder maybe maybe they need to work on the middle, 585 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, and keep the outside because you can kind 586 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: of help chip them in a little bit. I know. 587 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: But if you've been thinking about it, if you have 588 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: three guys on the interior that can't do anything, then 589 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: you can't run you can't. I mean, I don't know. 590 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good approach. I guess 591 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: I just look at it like this. I think right now, 592 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: to me, as far as performance is concerned, the guy 593 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: that and this is saying a lot, the guy that 594 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: is the worst of the bunch is Terrence Steel. I 595 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: think you gotta get somebody different at right tackle. He's 596 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: a problem for you right now. And and so I 597 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: think you need to take either Connor or Zach and 598 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: put them over there. And then I look at the 599 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: other side, and I'm like, Okay, you could probably make 600 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: that one a little bit better too. Maybe you're right. 601 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you go ahead and stick with cam Irving just 602 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: because he has experience and you and you keep him 603 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: in that spot and hope that you know, with back 604 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: at guard, maybe you get a little bit better. Who knows, 605 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't get I don't know, but I just look 606 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm like, yesterday the tackles were a real, 607 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: real problem. Most of the past rush, in my opinion, 608 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: was coming from the outside yesterday. And and so that's 609 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: where I feel like you kind of have to clean 610 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: this up a little bit. For no. I good, We'll 611 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: pick one. Sorry, I agree with what you said I 612 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: and I get Nick's point. I do like protecting the 613 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: front of the pocket is important. The Saints have a 614 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: couple of really badass tackles though, so like they that 615 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: might not look as good if you didn't have Ron 616 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Armstead and Ryan Ramschick so I and oh it was 617 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: they were just it was so bad. Yeah, like the 618 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: pressure was on top of Dalton before he could do anything, 619 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: and not from the interior. I mean it was the 620 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: game was long over, but like one of the last 621 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: snaps of the game, Ryan Kerrigan basically picked Terrence Steele 622 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: up and carried he carried him to the quarterback. It's 623 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: just it's it's rough, and that's why I think I trust. 624 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I think I trust the backups on the interior to 625 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: hold their own more than what we're looking at at tackle. 626 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: And maybe maybe it's not a season long thing, like 627 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: maybe when Brandon Knight comes back, you can do that, 628 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: but at least until some more guys are available, Like 629 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: if Zach Martin can play at this point, I would 630 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: try to play him at tackle. That's I just I 631 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: just maybe it's desperation, but it seems like it would 632 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: give you a better chance than what you're seeing right now. 633 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: Desperate times call for desperate measures. Amber, what do you think. 634 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: I think if it was up to me, I would 635 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: definitely want to move Connor Williams to tackle. I mean, 636 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: this is something we've been talking about for a couple 637 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: of years now. He's not necessarily the best guard, and 638 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: we've talked about the possibility of having him at tackle, 639 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: which is a position that not only is troublesome this year, 640 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: but it's going to be in the future as well. 641 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Even if your starters come back, we know they have 642 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: been dealing with health issues and injury, so there's you 643 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: need to address the position regardless. So I would rather 644 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: use this year and right now, given the fact that 645 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: the old line is just a mess right now, so 646 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: you're not really gonna get a whole lot worse, So 647 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: just try it. Move Connor to tackle, give him some 648 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: in game experience. So let's trying him out, because it's 649 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: totally different giving him practice, like watching him at tackle 650 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: during practice, then giving him some actual in game experience. 651 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: I would rather go ahead and do that. Now. Let's 652 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: get that out of the way and try to get 653 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: a better feel of what that would look like or 654 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: could look like, and that will give you a better 655 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: idea of whether that's the route you would want to 656 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: take for the future. And I'm not saying, oh, let's 657 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: go ahead and start thinking about the future and tank 658 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: the season or any of that, but I do think 659 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: that this is a good chance for you to at 660 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: least try different things because it's not working out. Clearly 661 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: it's not working out, So you're not gonna lose much 662 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: by actually giving him a tackle. Yeah, that's actually that's 663 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: the point. Amber. I think you hit it on the 664 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: head that whatever they're doing right now isn't working, so 665 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: try some other things. If you keep doing the same thing, 666 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: expect different results. That's lunacy, right, So try something different. 667 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: I think maybe he becomes a guy. And Nick, I 668 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: think you mentioned this a couple weeks ago too, that 669 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna need a good swing tackle. You've 670 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: been needing a good swing tackle for a while. If 671 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: you find out this year that he can play well 672 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: in relief at tackle, then maybe going into next year, 673 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: you look at this and you say, that's our swing tackle. 674 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: And if one of those two guys that are the 675 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: starters are not ready to go for whatever reason or 676 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: get injured. We feel like we're in a really good 677 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: position with him as a guy that can that become 678 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: a swing tackle and maybe that's a better fit for 679 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: him than guard. All Right, we're gonna take our final break. 680 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: When we come back, we do have to talk about 681 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: the defense and what their day looked like. Yesterday. There 682 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: were some guys that played a little bit more and 683 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm wondering did it make a difference. Maybe it did. 684 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's hard to see through all the bad stuff 685 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. We'll talk about that when we come 686 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: right back. 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Yeah, it's gave 734 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: up and only gave up three points. In the second half. 735 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: All right, that all being considered, can I'm gonna challenge 736 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: each of the three of you to Washington, to Washington, 737 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: make sure you point that out to Washington, right yeah, yeah, Okay, 738 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna challenge each of the three of you 739 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: come up with at least one thing that maybe you 740 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: could glean from that game that was a positive about 741 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 1: this defense. Nick, go first, Um, they had a goal 742 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: line stand. Ah, that's a good one. That's a really 743 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: good one. Okay. And the guy that did that was 744 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: there right in the middle, Dontarry Poe, which, by the way, folks, 745 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: we have a really good video of Dontari Poe getting 746 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: the team together and really kind of getting in their face. 747 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: Really yeah, what do you say, I'm going to play better? 748 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he he had that. And then 749 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: there was a fumble. I guess they called it a fumble. 750 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: Was it a fourth down stop or did they actually 751 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: get a fumble because Worley got the ball? Yeah, it 752 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: was Worley and Poe, those two right there. I'm not 753 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: sure if it was a turnover rundown or if it 754 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: was it was actually a stand. It turned out to 755 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: be a five point stand. Because they gave up here 756 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: of a safety. But yeah, let's go line stand that's positive? Okay, 757 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: uh Amber, give me something positive? Are you kidding me? 758 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: Just anything? Question? Is that? Why are you being asking 759 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: that work? Because because are you gonna get any posi? 760 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: Here's the point. Here's the point. If you look at 761 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: how this defense has played all season, and you look 762 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: at the fact that yesterday they were able to at 763 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: least only give up twenty three, and they only gave 764 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: up three after halftime, is there anything that's positive about that? 765 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: Is my question? Is there anything was better? No? No, no, 766 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: cero Sato, Sato, Sato positive Sato. Now that you keep 767 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: talking as if this was like the Steelers, the the 768 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: Seattle you're playing against Seattle Wall when they stopped them 769 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: twenty three to point. No, this was against Washington. There 770 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: was absolutely nothing positive. I thought the first player, like 771 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: in the first series, where they stopped that touch them, 772 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was a positive if you want to 773 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: look at it positive. Okay, maybe they didn't give up 774 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the first few seconds of the game. Good, great, 775 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: great for him for them, But no, there's absolutely nothing positive. 776 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: The worst part to me is that I don't know 777 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: how you really try to change things around at this point. 778 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you actually do to make it better? 779 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: Do you? And I know people keep talking about, oh, 780 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: come back this week fire, Mic Nolan, Are you gonna 781 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: do that? I mean, there's some blame on the players. Again, 782 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: this is not just a coaching thing. It's also a 783 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: thing about the players and the way that they're performing. 784 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: They just don't seem to care enough. And there's just 785 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: a lack of chemistry, a lack of enthusiasm, a lack 786 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: of desire of actually wanting to win because there's I 787 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: don't see any energy. Little things that you keep talking about, Okay, 788 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: maybe like for example, Jayleen and Smith, how do you 789 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: slip a tackle like that? Those things should not be happening. 790 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: So no, there's absolutely no positive from the defense side 791 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: of the ball. So don't ask me again. I don't 792 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: want to hear any word positive along in the same 793 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: sentence as the defense. You did see it up nicely though. 794 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: For tomorrow tomorrow show, I'm going to ask to ask you, 795 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: to ask you the question of do you think that 796 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: if you look at the players at the Cowboys lost 797 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: this last year, do you think that those guys have 798 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: accounted for that much of a difference in the result 799 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: that we're seeing this year, or maybe, just maybe could 800 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: it be the loss of one man end at being 801 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli. We're gonna talk about that tomorrow because I 802 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: think that's a very interesting conversation. Dave. Was there anything 803 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: positive that you glean from this defense yesterday? I know, 804 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: like you're asking this with your tongue firmly planted in 805 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: your I'm still we do have shows we gotta get 806 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: through for the rest of this season. I'm just saying 807 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: I'm still. I'm still a fin especially like, okay, they 808 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: allowed three points after halftime that Like that reminds me 809 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: in high school. I used to go out and play 810 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: basketball with my dad in the driveway like every night 811 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: after dinner, and he would beat my ass until he 812 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: had a comfortable lead, and then he would just start 813 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: chunking shots at the backboard so that it would stay 814 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: close and I wouldn't get discouraged, you know, Like that's 815 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: that's what that looked like to me. Is Washington was like, 816 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: all right, you know, it's twenty five to three, Like 817 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: we've done what we need to do. Like I don't 818 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: I don't give them any credit for not allowing a 819 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: touchdown after halftime because the touchdowns they allowed before halftime 820 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: three of them, by the way, which is more than 821 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: Washington has scored all year, and one of them is 822 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,959 Speaker 1: a go ball where they just decided not to cover 823 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin for the fourth week in a row. And 824 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: then the other one is Logan Thomas scoring because Jalen 825 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: Smith didn't couldn't tackle him. Well, it was it was atrocious. Um, 826 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: if I'm looking for positives, I thought Donovan Wilson made 827 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: a really nice play to break up the two point conversion. 828 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: I believe it was in the back of the end zone. Um, 829 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh played the whole game and he got hurt 830 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: for a second, but I guess it wasn't serious, so 831 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: you know that's nice, I guess. Um. I am befuddled 832 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: at how like why did why was Randy Gregory even 833 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: up if he only got six snaps? And why is 834 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: why is Bradley and I are going to be inactive 835 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: if this is what you're getting from the defensive line, 836 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying tank, but like, let's let's get 837 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: some of these young guys some looks like because what 838 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: what has what you've been doing hasn't been working anyway. 839 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, though those are my positives, which is to say, 840 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: really not any Yeah, and you entered you mentioned, you know, 841 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: get some of these young guys opportunities. Yesterday, what we 842 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: did see was Gallimore and Hamilton played more defensive tackle 843 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: than Poe or Wood or Crawford. They both played over 844 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the defensive snap, both Hamilton and Gallimore. 845 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that we saw a different result overall, 846 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: because they gave up obviously two uttered eight rushing yards, 847 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: which is a huge amount to give up to a 848 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: team that hadn't rushed very well. Antonio Gibson had one 849 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight yards on twenty carries. His previous 850 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: high before that was thirteen carriages for fifty five yards 851 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: at Arizona. So I don't think the results necessarily showed 852 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: anything different. But did you as you watch those players play, 853 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: did you get a sense that maybe they were a 854 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: little better than the guys that they maybe were replacing Nick? 855 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: Not really, I'm sorry, and I know where you're going 856 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: with this, but I can't. I just can't. There's just 857 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: nothing really to get excited about it at all I mean, 858 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: I just said to Antonio Gibson's gonna rush for thirty 859 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: seven yards next week, and Carol Allen's gonna have a 860 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: rating of about sixty eight. I mean, like, I just 861 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: think that those guys were getting tired of getting beat 862 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: up on, and they got to beat up on the Cowboys. 863 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: And that's the real embarrassing part of this is that 864 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: there are a few nice plays here and there. No, 865 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: there were like two plays here and there. Yeah, you 866 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: know what, Layton and Jalen had twelve tackles each. Cool 867 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: should have been nineteen each. I mean, like, I don't 868 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: think Layton played that well. I mean he had a 869 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: really costly penalty too that led to seven points. So 870 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, somebody told me a long 871 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: time ago about a play. Yeah, yeah, he led the 872 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys and you know, tackling and they can't tackle, so 873 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: somebody has to do it, you know, and it's Jalen 874 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: Smith and Layton Well. I mean, I do think that 875 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: as you as we go through the rest of the season, 876 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: it really is and probably will be for the Cowboys 877 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff front office as well. It's really gonna be 878 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: about player evaluations. The results won't matter because I think 879 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: the results are going to be similar to what you 880 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: saw yesterday. I think what they're looking at is is 881 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: an individual player playing well enough that we want to 882 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: keep him around for next year? You know, I think 883 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: you know that's where you start looking at it. And 884 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: that's that's why I asked the question about Gallimore and 885 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: Hamilton specifically, is because it really is going to be 886 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: about player evaluation for each of those individual guys. Were 887 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: there any individual performances? Now I'm not gonna say that 888 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: we're good, because in the twenty five to three loss, 889 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: nobody was good. But were there any moments that you 890 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: looked at and you said, Hey, I like what this 891 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: guy was doing here. This is the kind of thing 892 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: that they're gonna need a little bit more of Amber. 893 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I can't think of anyone. Honestly, I 894 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: there was so much bad that it completely blinded my 895 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,240 Speaker 1: side for any slight of good that there could possibly 896 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: have been in that game. There was not a single 897 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: player that necessarily stood out to me for doing good. 898 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: So and I know that what we're looking at is 899 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit better, Like, Okay, did this 900 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: players do a little a little better where maybe we 901 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: a little something something, but that little something something just 902 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: got completely washed away from everything else. So I just 903 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't give you a better answer to that. 904 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: But on his there was nothing that I really saw, Dave, 905 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm with her even you know, I mentioned a couple, 906 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple like positives, and I don't know. 907 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Donovan Wilson's fault that there 908 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: was no safety help on the McLaurin play. I haven't 909 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: seen it back, so I don't want to blame him 910 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: for that. But my point is Donovan Wilson makes one 911 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: great play, but like you still see all of the 912 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: same systemic problems like that. That obviously what makes this 913 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: so frustrating and terrible is like there is no growth 914 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: from week to week. Ye, there is none. They do 915 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: the same awful stuff every time they go out, and 916 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: this time they did it against literally the worst offense 917 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So cool, Maybe a handful of guys 918 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: made some nice plays, but like who cares right now? 919 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: That's just it is what it is, all right, That's 920 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: gonna be a rap Tomorrow. What we will do is 921 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: we will talk a little bit more about some of 922 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: those bigger picture areas where maybe the Cowboys can identify 923 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: some issues that maybe they can tackle this year. Some 924 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: of them are about tackling issues for next year. We're 925 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna talk specifically about coaching and what's happening right now 926 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: with this coaching staff, both at the head coach as 927 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: well as the coordinators, and how much blame do you 928 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: put on those guys from what we're seeing right now 929 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to this team each and every Sunday. 930 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: We'll do that when we come back tomorrow to them. 931 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: For Nick Eatman, Dave helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Hilton. 932 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 933 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 934 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,479 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.