1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: eighteen and we're back for another Rut Fresh radio episode 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: in which we are getting the latest intel from across 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: the country on the progress of the RUT, current deer activity, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: and how you as a hunter can have success. Right now, 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, brought to you 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: by on X. We are back here Spencer and myself 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: for another Rut Fresh radio episode. That means we're talking 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: about the latest updates and intel from across the country, 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: as far as the progress of the RUT, as far 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: as deer activity, as fair as current conditions, and what 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: all this means for us as hunters when this comes out. 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: We're entering heck it, what is the third week of 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: November somewhere in there, give or take. So if if 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: you guys are like me, you might be worn down. 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: You might be a little bit exhausted from the marathon 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: that is the first couple of weeks of November and 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: all that crazy rut hunting. Hopefully you have to spend 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: a lot of time in the woods. Um. But I'm 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: here to tell you Spencer that there's still some good 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: stuff to come, right, There's there's still reasons to listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: I think for sure. Um. And And recently, Mark, in 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: our white Tail weekly newsletter that comes out every Monday 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: from Meat Eater, you had written in there that the 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: end of October for some hunters is the preferred time 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: to kill a mature buck. Can you go into a 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: little bit more details as to why that would be? 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: And you mean November not October, I'm sorry, the end 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: of the end of November. Yes. And the basic gist, um, 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: is that you know, many of us think about the 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: first two weeks of November being that most exciting period 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: because that's the build up to peak breeding. But if 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: you live or hunt in an area where you don't 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: have the middle of November fire arm opener, if you've 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: got a spot where you can keep on bow hunting 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: without that added gun pressure right through the month of November, 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: that third week can sometimes be the very best when 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: it comes to that really old, big, old giant buck. 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: Because those old guys, they're experienced enough to know that 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: there will still be some does coming into heat. So 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: I've heard from folks. I remember reading from Don Higgins 45 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: talking about this a while back, and a number of 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: other people too that hunt in some states like that, 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: that right around Thanksgiving, give or take, is a dynamite 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: dynamite time. And I remember thinking this to myself maybe 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: seven eight years ago. I was hunting down in Ohio 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: and they don't have that gun season until December, so 51 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I remember being down there excited to finally be able 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to hunt in that like November twenty five period and 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: and not have it all be a bunch of hunters 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: and orange and was hoping for some of that late 55 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: November activity And as sure as ship got it when 56 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day a buck I've been after, 57 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I was calling him Glenn at the time he can 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: cruising through even And then an hour and a half later, 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: the other buck I was after, I called him Jawbreaker. 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: He came through a one thirty, just cruising right in 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: the middle of the day looking for does still and 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: it was November, I think. Um, And that's something that 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: you hear from, you know, time and time again, from 64 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: guys that are pretty experienced and stick it out. It's 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: something you can you can count on, So I don't 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: get that luxury. In Michigan, our firearms season opened on 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the fifteenth and and everything kind of goes out the 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: window after that. Um. Not to say you can't still 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: have success, but it's just different behavior. Um. But if 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: you're able to keep going, if you have the time, 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: if you can kind of summon the energy to keep 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: after it, good things can happen. Yeah. And this is 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of an awkward time as a bow hunter to 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: decide where to be because we're coming between peak rut 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: and post rut. And so if if I were picking 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: a place to hunt during this time of year, I'm 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: thinking that I would still be looking for the same 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: stuff that you were looking for like a week ago, 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: dough betting and buck betting, pinch points funnels, those kinds 80 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: of places. But if I was gun hunting, I think 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: right now I would look more to field edges where 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: you can take advantage that extended um you know, shooting 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: distance of two yards whatever that is, and try to 84 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: catch those doughs coming out in the evenings and hopefully 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: there's a buck following. What what would your set up 86 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: look like if you were bow hunting or god hunting 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: right now, Mark, Yeah, well, I would say I would 88 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: echo what you just said, that being the fact that 89 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: does are still the ticket at this time of year. 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: If you're looking for that old cruiser, he's still going 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to be checking those dough hotspots. So the dough betting areas, 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: dope feeding areas, um so, so plant yourself right there. 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: I would tell you, though, if you hunt in a 94 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: state with heavy gun hunting pressure, and if you're in 95 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: an area where there's a lot of other hunters around you, 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: you're probably going to see a change in behavior as 97 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: far as how deer relate to openings in fields. Because 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you're in Michigan and six hundred or 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand hundreds have just been blasting at you 100 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: for the last three days, you might be avoiding a 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: wide open field. You might now want to stick to 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: the cover. And that's not always the case. There's if 103 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: there's pockets of pressure or pockets of unpressured land, those 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: deer can still behave normally, but if you know that 105 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: your ground has just been pounded, you might want to 106 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: start thinking about that security cover. Try to find those 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: escape zones, those little sanctuaries where bucks are going to 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: get away from all the other hunters. It's a very 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: different approach than targeting your typical rut areas. Um. But 110 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: that is one thing you can do is take advantage 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of that gun hunting pressure, because you know that they 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: pushed them out of all the normal spots. Find that 113 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: safe zone where they escaped to, and if you can 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: slip in there and detected, you might be able to 115 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: catch a buck that thinks he's got all figured out. 116 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: But but I'm benknownst to him. He'll be there. Um. 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: So that's one other thing to think about. Yeah, and 118 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: this is like a tough time of year to stay 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: optimistic if you still have a tag and you're still 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: bow hunting. But um, I think you've said a lot 121 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: of things that they made sense, Mark, and I think 122 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: that listeners will get a lot of good intel from 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: the people that we talked to this week as well. 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: I want to hear who those people are. But before 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: we do, can I give you a special hot piece 126 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: of intel. Absolutely, this is no one gets well. I 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: guess the people follow me on social media they'll know 128 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: this beforehand. But for podcast listeners, you're gonna get an 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: update before anywhere else about some news related to my hunts. 130 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: I got a sighting of Tran last night. He made 131 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: it through the opening weekend of gun hunting season. So 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the buck up and after all year is still alive 133 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: and on that property can hunt. They just start picking 134 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: the corn last night too, So the standing corns coming down, 135 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: my target buck is still alive, and I'm going out 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: there right now to try to get a shot at them. 137 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: So I've got a very You spoke about how it's 138 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: hard to have optimism sometimes. Well, I just got a 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: huge boost of optimism because when you get that corn 140 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: coming down, there's nothing that's gonna pull dear, and like 141 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: that it's in a little secluded spot, and uh man, 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I all of a sudden feel really good about my 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: chances at this buck again. And are you carrying a 144 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: gun with you? I am. I'm gonna go in there, 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: and and I am an equal opportunity when it comes 146 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: to weapons, So whatever is legal at the time, I'm 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna use. So try and better watch out and something 148 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that I'd like to take advantage of. When you do 149 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: have that harvest, harvest springs with it a lot of chaos. 150 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: There's combines in the fields. There's pickups in the field, 151 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: there's grand cards in the field. UM, take advantage of that. 152 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: And if you have a gun tag um, or if 153 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: you want to hang another tree scene, like drive an 154 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: a TV into the field with tree stands on and 155 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: set that up. Or drive your pick up into the 156 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: field and drop your ground blind off there and set 157 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: up a ground blind. That's not going to look that 158 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: out of the place following a harvest when there was 159 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: all this chaos of machinery and noise and foreign objects 160 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and farm implements there. So a ground blind really isn't 161 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: going to look that out of the ordinary. UM. I 162 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: love to take advantage of those fresh harvests like this. Yeah, 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: that's a really good point. And I'm planning on doing 164 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: exactly that. I'm gonna hunt heading there and hunt tonight. 165 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out tonight, uh, the next day, 166 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use I'm gonna finally be able to drive 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: my truck back there. I'm gonna go and set up 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: a couple more cameras to be able to observe some 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: spots I haven't been able to get too easily without 170 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: making an impact. I might rearrange a tree stand might 171 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: throw up a ground blind a few of the different 172 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: things you talked about. I've got a one day window 173 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. It might be a one or two day 174 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: window while this is all happening, to take advantage of 175 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: that cast. Like you said, so, I'm gonna swing for 176 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: the fences. See if we can't make some late season 177 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: or all late action happened. Alright, Mark, Well, besides your 178 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: report in Michigan, we're also gonna hear from Keith Thompson 179 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: in Montana from Montana White Tails, and then Kelsey Young 180 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: from Knee Deep Outdoors in Kentucky, and then we go 181 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: to Florida and from the Florida Outdoor Experience, we talked 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: to Ryan Knitts, and then we go to Derek Nelson 183 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin from Matthews Archery. Good luck on your haunt 184 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: with trand Mark, and we will talk to you next week, alright, 185 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: and enjoining us online next is Keith Thompson in Montana 186 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: from Montana White Tails. Keith in Montana, what would you 187 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately? On a scale 188 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd give it a nine. It's 189 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: really popped off here the last few days, surprisingly because 190 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: it's been getting into the mid fifties during the day, 191 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: but it hasn't seemed to slow it down at all. Um. 192 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Definitely bucks on their feet cruising for sure. So it's 193 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: a good sign for us coming for the next two 194 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. So what phase of the route 195 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: would you say that most of Montana is in for 196 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: white tails? Definitely Here where we're at in southwest Montana, 197 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: they're they're definitely seeking. Um. I've been glass in some 198 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: fields here the last three or four nights and there 199 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: has not been a single dough in the field that 200 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: has not got her asked by every single buff that 201 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: came through. I mean, it's it's the time to be 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: in the woods around here, that's for sure. What kind 203 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: of fields are you glassing? I'm staying food source out 204 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: here is gonna be out out fields. Um, there's you know, 205 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: it's just it's basically the only food there is around here. 206 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: And you've got some brows, but that's kind of weak 207 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: this year. So the out fassil fields has just been 208 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: getting hammered and it's just it's been a dough frenzy, 209 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: so the bucks have been really keying in on that. 210 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Would anything change for you with the food sources. If 211 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: we've got some snow in that area, would it stay 212 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: the same. It'll basically stay the same. Like I said, 213 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: there's there's really not much else for them here. So 214 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: as long as we don't get a super hard iced 215 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: over snow here we can, we'll still target pretty much 216 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: the same fields. If we're in that seeking and chasing 217 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: phase in Montana that are you seeing some midday movement 218 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, definitely. Um. I had a bow hunter 219 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: this week kill one at Bunk was by himself said, 220 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: his noses in the ground the whole time. He walked 221 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: right to the base of the tree, hunting some Western 222 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: open country like that. How do your set ups change 223 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: with gun hunters versus bow hunters during this phase of 224 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: the rock Obviously the a little bit easier. Well, we 225 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: with our bow hunters, we we target the river bottoms, 226 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: will hunt a lot of neck down points where the 227 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: river might bend and it pinches him down to you know, 228 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: maybe a forty to sixty wide yard gap, um, compared 229 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: to like you said, with the rifle, we can we 230 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: can cover a lot more ground. And you know, there's 231 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: different fingers that branch off some of the creeks that 232 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: I'll generally walk with the gun hunter and we'll kind 233 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: of do some spot and stalks for the white tails 234 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: for that. Are your hunters seeing any fresh signing camp? Definitely? Yeah. 235 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: I had, Uh one of my hunters came in. He 236 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: haunted to stand yesterday and I took him in this morning. 237 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: He hunted it all day to day. Here at dinner 238 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: we were talking about he said that there was two 239 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: new scrapes in there, but then forty of the tree 240 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: that definitely weren't there yesterday. So are you concerned with 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: the moon phase at all when you're hunting white tails 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: in Montana? I mean everybody has their own theory, but 243 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: basically at this time of the year, and I think 244 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: if you can get some decent weather and just be 245 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: in the woods, I think it's going to happen eventually 246 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: for you. So where are you running your trail cameras 247 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: right now? Um? I have a theme set up on 248 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: scrapes still, they're they're super active. I just want to 249 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: pull two cards tonight and I had three new bucks 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: show up that I haven't had a year long. And 251 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean these the deer have been pretty much homebodies 252 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: all season, and these are three new ones this to 253 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: the first. I've got new deer in probably a month, 254 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: so that's encouraging to see. If we got quite a 255 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: bit of snow, you'd expect that to drive some elk 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: out of the mountains and change up where they're hanging out. 257 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: We got quite a bit of snow. Would that change 258 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: anything for the white tails though? Or do you think 259 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: they'd still be doing the same stuff. I think it'll 260 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: probably stay the same way because they're they're kind of 261 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: isolated into the river bottom here where we're at, so 262 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I know it would definitely help though if we got 263 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: some because it's going to push some of them dear 264 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: out sooner into the outbat field little be a little 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: bit easier to target them that way, I think going forward. Then, 266 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: in the sixt week or so, what do you think 267 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be on a scale 268 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Montana? I would I would 269 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: have to say, I hope it goes up. I mean, 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: it's it's been so productive with mid fifty degree temperatures. 271 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: If we can get it down in the twenties and thirties, 272 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: I think it's really going to be good. I mean, no, 273 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: nine and a half to ten, I would have to 274 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: hope anyways. Alright, Keith, with good luck to your hunters 275 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: in camp. Thanks for joining me, Thank you alright and 276 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: joining us on the line. Next is Kelsey Young in 277 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Kentucky from Knee Deep Outdoors. Now, Kelsey in Kentucky, what 278 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: would you say the bucket activity has been lately on 279 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten um to say, in 280 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the past couple of days, it's heated up quite a bit, 281 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: So for Big Bucks, I'd probably say it's about it, 282 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: really close to nine or even maybe a pm. Um, 283 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: we've got a very odd year with the heat and weather, 284 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: so it's thrown the rough back really probably a week 285 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: or two. And in the past couple of days, um, 286 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: the Big Bucks have really been up to daylight chasing 287 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: the dose quite aggressively. So what phase of the road 288 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: do you think most of Kentucky is in right now? 289 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: For the most part, I'd say they're really in the 290 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: chasing properly, almost peak rout phase. I mean, we're in 291 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: central Kentucky, so things maybe a little bit different more 292 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: towards the western part of the state or northern part 293 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: of the state. But for the most part, the deer 294 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: is really the dose are starting to come and heat, 295 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: and the deer's really starting to chase and get on 296 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: the tails a lot. So what is your preferred set 297 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: up at this phase of the rout Um I've had 298 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: to go to set up, it's probably really just in 299 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: a natural travel corridor for dose because they're really starting 300 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: to come to heat. At any minute, a big buck 301 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: could be right behind them, So I would probably have 302 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: to say I would set up just in a natural 303 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: corridor travel travel area where you know does come through frequently. 304 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: If you think that that part of the country is 305 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: a little bit behind with the rut right now, are 306 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: you still seeing some relevant signmaking then oh yeah, they've been. 307 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: The bucks have been wanting to rut for a couple 308 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: of weeks now. They've been making a lot of scrapes. Um. 309 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I've actually been up to call a few small bucks 310 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: in by rattling and grunting, So they've been ready for 311 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: a little while. Was that they was kind of waiting 312 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: on the doors to get kicked into gear. So here, um, 313 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: probably these next coming days. I mean, if you can 314 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: get in the woods, you really need to because it's 315 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna get good. So where are your trail cam is 316 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: that right now, I try to possess my trail cams 317 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: this side like where I really when I'm hunting on 318 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: the natural travel ways, where does come through frequently? Because 319 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a hot dough and they're 320 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: walking through that pathway, a bucks won't be behind them 321 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: any minute. So it's just a good way to kind 322 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: of get an inventory of what bucks you still have alive. 323 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: And new bucks show up any day, so it's a 324 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: good way to figure out what new bucks have came through. 325 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Gun season has been open for about two weeks now 326 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: in Kentucky. How do your setups change when de you're 327 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: responding to that pressure. Yeah, then for at first we 328 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: again even second weekend, there's a lot of hunters out 329 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: that's normally not out there, so the deer kind of 330 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: go nocturnal on us. So we try to just stick 331 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: it out. I mean, you never when they're rutting, you 332 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. But for the most part, 333 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: um which I get as close as we can to 334 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: bed and areas without bump them out because they try 335 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: to hunker down and stand there, and every once I 336 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: want to slip out and mess up force. As we 337 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: get into the later part of the month and we 338 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: get into post what food sources are you going to 339 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: be focused on in Kentucky the real bad dry weather 340 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: and heat. Um, most of our big kind of act 341 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: fields have been cut already, so deer's kind of um 342 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: going to natural brows. I mean, if there's still acrons 343 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: on the ground or some kind of nut on the 344 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: ground that you can see that deer's coming to and 345 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: feed on. That's gonna be the best case scenario for 346 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: where your um. That's really with the agg fields cut 347 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: and everything else, that's if you can get to a 348 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: natural browser, you know, dear is gonna be that's part 349 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: of your best option. Right now, you've mentioned the heat 350 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: and the drought a few times. Does that mean that 351 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: you at a premium on water sources this time of 352 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: year or is that still not something you're really concerned 353 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: with during the rout. No, water is a very important 354 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: thing during the rut um. I mean the big buck 355 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: turk who's also they got miles at the time. So water, 356 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: if you can find water in an area they're using, 357 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: that's a key place to set in on. Luckily, where 358 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: we where we hunt, um, there's a creek that runs 359 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: right to the middle of it, so it's kind of 360 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: water always there for them. But if you can find 361 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: a water source that they are frequently a lot, then 362 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: that's the place you need to be too. Going forward. Then, 363 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: in the sex week or so, what do you think 364 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: that buck activity is going to be on a scale 365 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Kentucky by this weekend? I'm 366 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna say it's still gonna be about a nine or 367 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: tena but I've give it probably if you give five 368 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: more days, the bucks are gonna start walking down with 369 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: the does, and it's gonna get a lot tougher. Um. 370 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: The younger bucks call still be trying to chase and 371 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: find some dose so and may tamper off about a 372 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: six or something about five or so days. All right, Kelsey, 373 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: good luck to you and everyone else from Knee Deep Outdoors. 374 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Thank you have a good alright 375 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: and joining us online. Next is Ryan Knits from Florida 376 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: from the Florida Outdoor Experience Narayan in Florida. What would 377 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity has been lately on a 378 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten. Right now this time of year, 379 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: we're looking out about an eight um and that's mostly 380 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: because it's not degrees anymore. We're starting to feel the 381 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: cold weather. And I mean with a flip of a switch, 382 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: the bucks are out on their feet. What phase of 383 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: the road would you say that different parts of Florida 384 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: are in right now? Well, I'll start. I'll start in 385 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: the bottom where I am, um, South Florida, and that's 386 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: typically I would say Orlando at South Um. As far 387 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: as the rut goes, I would say the main part 388 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: of it is over um. You know that that part 389 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: is usually the beginning of bow season in September. That's 390 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: when we see are really good rut here um. And 391 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: like I always tell everybody that the Florida should be 392 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: broken up into two parts. South Florida is a totally 393 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: different part. In the North Florida. It's a lot warmer 394 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: down here. Are temperatures stay a lot warmer down here 395 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: than that than it does up in the Panhandle in 396 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: North Florida. So are right here, um can be anywhere 397 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: from September, which I think is the best part, till January, 398 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: and it could be any time at any point in 399 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: time in between. You could catch a dough and heat 400 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: getting chased by a buck. Um as you move your 401 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: way north central Florida, and in northern central Florida, I 402 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: think right now until Thanksgiving is going to be the 403 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: time to be Um. The cold fronts are heating up there, 404 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: and um, you know, the oaks are dropping. Um, not 405 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: many people. You know a lot of people who use 406 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: corn to bait and deer. They're not seeing them on 407 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: their corn piles. That's very typical this time of year 408 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: because the acorns are dropping. Once those acorns dropped, you're 409 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: not going to get them on the corn. It's just 410 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: not what happens. And then you got the panhandle of Florida, Um, 411 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: your talahasty and that is not gonna get good. I 412 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: think until December and January. It's very consistent with Alabama. 413 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: So that whole part of the state that touches Alabama, 414 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: you're not gonna see much activity. I mean, you know 415 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: you might start seeing it right now. Um, I'm not 416 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: sure as a sign up there. But down here in 417 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: the South, all our rugs are old. You know, they're 418 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: not bright orange anymore. You can see they're about a 419 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: month old. And so that's pretty much where we are 420 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: with the phase of the rut. You mentioned acorns briefly, there. 421 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: What other food sources should Florida hunters keyed in on 422 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: right now? Well, if you're a private land hunter, um, 423 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: like I said, even if if you have protein in there. 424 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: The deer now that it's starting to get colder, so 425 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna start thinking about food again. A lot of 426 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: stuff down here in Florida is starting to die. It's 427 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: not green anymore. So whatever is green, the deer down 428 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: here will eat it. Does not matter what it is. 429 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: There's nothing you know down here in the South. If 430 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: you're a public land hunter, Um, there's not much to 431 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: work with, and the deer don't really have much to 432 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: work with either. So if you can find anything green, 433 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: and most of the times that's gonna be flag ponds, canals, 434 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: anything like that, Um, the deer will eat it. I've 435 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: seen him eat twigs. So whatever you can find that 436 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: is green and looks lush, those deer are gonna be 437 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: hitting it. What does a typical post rut set up 438 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: look like for you in your part of the state, Well, 439 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: post rut. So where I'm at in the South, we 440 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: do get a second rut, and is it's just as good, 441 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: if not better than the first one? I think, Um, January, 442 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: early January. Down here in the South, we always get 443 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: a good rut. I've seen bucks fighting to the death 444 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: the first week of January. UM. So down here in 445 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the South it's wild, wild West. You can be hunting 446 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: rutting bucks up until January. But I do think that 447 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: post right, you're gonna maybe start um hitting the food sources. 448 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: It's nothing but food source, food source, food source, food source. 449 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: UM and those cold temperatures you can catch I catch 450 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: a lot of deer working bag ponds. And if you 451 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: don't know what flag pon is, it's just an open 452 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: area and a pine flat that's filled with water. And 453 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: you'll catch those deer in a cold winter morning, just 454 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: sitting in those flag ponds. Whether they're just maybe the 455 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: water is a little warmer, but they're also eating the 456 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: little bit of what, whether it's an algae or whatever 457 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of greener he's coming from that water. You'll catch 458 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: them a lot of times in those flag ponds. Do 459 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: you plan for the moon at all this time of year? 460 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't. UM. I've never really been a moon guy. Um. 461 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: If you know I'm out there, I don't care if 462 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: it's overhead, underhead, how big it is, I'm out there. Um, 463 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: of course, you know the full moon. You know, I 464 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: sit all day and I do see a lot of 465 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: big deer on their feet midday on a full moon, 466 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: I see it a lot. So, Um, you know, a 467 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: couple of days after a full moon I think can 468 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: be really good if you can sit all day. Um, 469 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: that's just how it is. But I've never really been 470 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: wanting to pay attention to the moon too much going 471 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: full were then in the sext week or so, what 472 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: do you think that bucket activity is going to be 473 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Florida. I 474 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: think it's gonna get even better. I'm gonna say and 475 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: give it a nine next week. Um. The temperatures are 476 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: staying pretty consistent, which is good. You know Florida, the 477 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: winter can be very hit or miss here. You get 478 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: a cold front for three days and then it's back 479 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to ninety. And that hasn't been the case yet. It's 480 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: been cold. It's staying, you know cold. And when I 481 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: stay cold, fifty degrees to seven degrees instead of seventy 482 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: to ninety. Um. So if it stays consistent as far 483 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: as temperature wise, which it has, it's just gonna keep 484 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: getting better. Um, you know those big bucks, now, I 485 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't think you're gonna be killing them necessarily, 486 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: maybe so much of the right, it's just mostly the 487 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: temperatures and the days are getting shorter. Um, so if 488 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: you get a nice cold morning, good chances are that 489 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: buck is going to be out there. All right, Ryan, 490 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: good luck with that cold front. Thanks for joining me, 491 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: all right, thanks alright and joining us on the line. 492 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Next is Derrek Nelson in Wisconsin for Matthews a tree Now, 493 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: Derek in Wisconsin. What would you say the bucket activity 494 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: is Ben Lanley? On a scale of one to ten, 495 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: I put it right right around a seven probably. Um. 496 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people have been 497 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: experiencing this last week. Um, you know kind of what's 498 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: known as you know lockdown. Um, a lot of these 499 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the bucks that blea bensie and you 500 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: know they haven't been seeing they have been getting photos 501 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of you know, like a lot more nocturnal stuff, um, 502 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: you know with those so um, you know, it was 503 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: kind of it was going pretty heavy kind of from 504 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, probably the fourth through about the tenth and 505 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: then you know we have we've had a a few 506 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: days where it seems like it's been slowing down a 507 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: little bit, but um, it's kind of starting to break 508 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: loose again from you know what I've seen, what a 509 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: lot of my coworkers have been seeing in these last 510 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: few days, especially this last weekend. What's your strategies for 511 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: setups during the lockdown phase and then coming out of 512 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: that lockdown phase going into post rud Um. Well, I'm 513 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: mean what I've been trying to do, and um, what 514 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: a few of my friends you have been trying to 515 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: do is is you know, hunting a lot closer to 516 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: betting than food and doe betting in particular. Um, it's 517 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: something you know, I've been hunting a lot of public 518 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: up here. Um, and you know, when we don't really 519 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: have you know, unpressured food sources to hunt, you kind 520 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: of gotta figure out where deer betting and try to 521 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: get as close as you can safely to those and um, 522 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: you know, so if you can get in where you know, 523 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: traditionally there's been a lot of dope betting, there's been 524 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: a lot of buck activity on you know at the 525 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: edges of that, and um that's been you know, turning 526 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: up decent results for a lot of people recently. So 527 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: are you still seeing any signmaking in Wisconsin? So? Um, 528 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: on my pieces that haven't been it's actually funny. I'm 529 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the truck right now. We're on our 530 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: way back. We just pulled one of my buddies just 531 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: pulled the camera off of one of his pieces, and um, 532 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: it was funny because his camera was set up on 533 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: um like a big community scrape that he was he 534 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: was pulling his his camera down because there's actually other 535 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: guys are gonna come in and gun hunt that piece. 536 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't want to get his stuff getting stolen, but he's 537 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: who and grabbed it and got back in the truck. 538 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: He's like, man, that scrape is still wide open. Um. 539 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: Which I've had a you know, a few cameras on 540 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: scrapes on a couple of my pieces and they kind 541 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: of you know, um, they hadn't been hit you know, 542 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: recently at all, but apparently they're still getting hit in 543 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: some spots. So with that gun opener coming up this weekend, 544 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: what's your strategy. He's a public land bowl hunter. When 545 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: you're trying to account for that extra hunting pressure, Um, 546 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: that's a tough one, you know. I Um. I've hunted 547 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: on public um during the gun opener a couple of 548 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: times and thought, you know what, I'm just gonna get 549 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: as deep as I can and um, you know, try 550 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: to hit some overlook spots. And I haven't had a 551 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: ton of a ton of luck with um getting away 552 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: from people. UM. I mean there's more hunters in the 553 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: in the woods you know, this week again than like 554 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: anywhere else in the country ever. So UM, it can 555 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: be a little tricky. UM so UM. You know, I'm 556 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: not sure I really have an awesome answer for that yet, 557 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: but I'll let you know if I find one. Are 558 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: you doing any calling or decoying during that lockdown phase 559 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: at the rut? Um? Yeah? Calling actually, UM kind of 560 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: this um the tail end of the rout when you know, 561 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: kind of this like desperately seeking phase. I know a 562 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: few of the guys that work we're just talking about 563 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: how rattling can be. UM. Like. Some of the most 564 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: effective rattling you can have is right now. And you 565 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: know my boss actually two days ago, UM like rattled 566 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: in a good buck right to the base of his tree. Um. 567 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: On Friday. Um before this past weekend, I rattled in 568 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: a buck UM and so it's been it's been decently 569 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: effective um right now, just kind of got to be 570 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. You talked 571 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: about when you're hunting public land, how it's a challenge 572 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: to find those destination food sources, but what is the 573 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: food that you are focused on when you are hunting 574 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: those pieces been kind of um primarily focusing on on 575 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: you know, corn as it's getting cut um has been 576 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: I guess the most effective um for me um actually 577 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: on you know, I hunt a lot of public um, 578 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: but I've also got you know, one little private piece 579 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: that you know, I've had access to as well, and 580 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: it was mainly all corn um this year, and it 581 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: could there's actually this one little this little kind of 582 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: secluded corn field just probably like four acres up on 583 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: the top of this ridge that just got cut um 584 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: last week. And I was in there like two days 585 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: after it got cut and I saw a lot of 586 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: activity up on that cut corn and you know, in 587 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: the kind of the fields um surrounding my piece. It 588 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: all kind of came out probably a week before that, 589 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: and you could tell there's a lot of like nighttime 590 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: movement out in the in the corn. But on my 591 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: cameras that were on the edge of that. I was 592 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: getting a lot of activity right dark and after dark, 593 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: just um dear pouring into that stuff. So, um, that's 594 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of been what I've been keeting on going forward. 595 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so, what do you 596 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a 597 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Wisconsin only think? Um, 598 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: I think the gun season is gonna have a little 599 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: bit of an effect on it. Um, But I think 600 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: kind of here they're coming out of out of lockdown 601 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: a little bit, and you're those bucks are looking for 602 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: the last few days that are that are coming in. Um. 603 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna spike a little bit, 604 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: but I probably put it, you know, around a seven 605 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: or and eight against all Right, Derek, I hope you 606 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: get a chance to use that new VX are good 607 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: luck and thanks for joining me. Appreciate it man. And 608 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: that concludes this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks 609 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: to Keith, Kelsey, Ryan and Derek for joining me, and 610 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. 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