WEBVTT - What It'll Take For... 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome to the Solid verbal call that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.680 I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.680 I want to be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.000 You want to be happy for dake Ado State? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:14.480 Is that whoo whoom? 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.960 And Dan and Ty. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.400 Welcome back to the Solid Rubber boys and Girls. My 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.400 name's Ty Hildebrant. I am joined as always, but I'm 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.240 a good friend, colleague and co host over there in 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.440 beautiful New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:30.760 are you? 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.080 I'm good? 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.640 I both had a good and bad sign as I 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.840 was walking back to the CLO office from the office, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.440 and I don't know what it portends for this show, 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.320 but I'm willing to hear you out if I tell you. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.519 Yeah, please, what's the show about? Honesty? As you know, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:48.880 I was thinking about the show. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.920 I was thinking about my answers to this sort of 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.680 very specific and non college football Q and A. And 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.600 as I'm walking by a subway station, out of the 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:03.880 station emerges I'm a perfectly lovely looking woman wearing an. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:04.640 Oregon Dux hat. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.080 Okay, And I said, I said, hot, damn, this is 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.399 gonna be a good show. What a great sign. I'm 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.319 walking home to do this podcast with tie in my clofice, 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.199 my closet office. That's a great sign that we're gonna 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.000 do a good show. And then on my way home 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.039 and I walk by a popular butcher here in Brooklyn, Okay, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.640 and I was I was like, oh, I'm grilling tomorrow 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.560 for the fourth of July. We're recording this on Wednesday, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.920 the third, and I'm thinking about going full time butcher 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.840 instead of getting my my ground meat, my sausages, steaks, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.400 whatever I'm going to grow from, you know whatever, Trader 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.119 Joe's or a local grocery store here, and they're fine, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.920 but you might as well support a more local business 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.720 and higher quality. They're they're grinding the meat right there 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:48.320 on the area. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.920 It's very pro butcher continue And so I'm like, all right, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.520 I'm gonna I'm gonna pop in and get some some 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:59.000 meat for some burgers tomorrow. And it's it's basically, if 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:04.000 you've ever seen a subway in a very very crowded 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.880 rush hour international city, people are like pressed up against 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.080 the tour yearning to breathe free the day before the 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.959 fourth of July to grab their their are sorted grilling meats. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.200 So I'm gonna have to go out later, and the 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.960 butcher's gonna be closed to some grocery store and slummet 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.440 with grocery meat instead of fresh, locally butchered ground meats. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.679 We've got We've got a I don't know about, I 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.040 don't know fifteen twenty minutes from here called Dietrichs Meats. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.480 And I took solid wife Cayden there. Oh gosh, must 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.400 have been two years ago, and she was mortified because 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.880 on the walls it's like Deliverance. You've got a lot 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:48.320 of things hanging that, a lot of local taxidermy on display. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.200 They do do they do sort of obscure meats. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.640 Oh, they'll do anything, anything you can imagine. There's a 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.600 counter all the way in the one corner where you 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.200 can find pretty much whatever you're looking for. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.640 This place is offering camel patties. Yeah, okay, maybe not 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:04.639 camel patties. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.000 You can get rattlesnake at this place. Okay, Now, maybe 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:09.200 maybe that's a Brooklyn thing. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.639 Yet it might be, well, it doesn't sound like a 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.919 Brooklyn thing. Perhaps Here's here's what I'm going to say. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.600 I'm going to say it's a good sign people are 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.120 enjoying the outdoors tomorrow. People are gonna enjoy grilling meat 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.679 and that all wraps together with a nice little bow 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.880 into college football. And we have a very specific Q 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.760 and A that we're I don't know what the title is, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.840 but basically we asked people to fit their circular questions 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.520 into this this little peg or the peg into the 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.880 hole whatever. We said, what'll it take for blank to happen? 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.600 And you got to fill in the blank. Yeah, and 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.000 we have all sorts of great fill ins here from everywhere, 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.120 fans of every Witch team. You know, we have NJK 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.400 saying what's going to take for Cincinnati to get national respect? 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.360 I know you've been deep diving the Bearcats for a 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:56.360 few weeks now, so. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.480 The floor months on these Yeah, you're no, it's I mean, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.600 we talk about Cincinnati if you'd like to. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:06.520 But what'll it take for We've We've got an astounding 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.600 number of questions here that we're going to delve into moments. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.560 Do you have time to really get to you know, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.440 we also have a bunch of non college football. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:16.960 I'm gonna wing this one tonight, Dan, now. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.800 I know, but do you have you do you have 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:19.960 a heart out at any time? 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.719 I don't have a heart out. No great, okay, you 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.280 think a three hour show? What are we doing here? 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:25.839 What are we doing? 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.360 I'm good if you are, I'm gonna have to take 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.280 an intermission and get some water at a certain point. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.560 But otherwise all right. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.359 Well, before we get into yeah, this wonderful assortment of 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.600 questions that have been sent to a a few very 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:43.080 important housekeeping things that we need to discuss first and foremost. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.320 If you didn't get the newsletter, if you didn't see 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.000 the newsletter, if you haven't been listening to our show 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.680 or following us on social media, surprise, surprise, We are 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.960 doing our next live show, or I should say a 0:04:56.120 --> 0:05:00.560 live show a of August, August the eighth. It's a 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.320 Sunday night. The show starts at seven point thirty. The 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.200 doors open at six at a place called Union Stage 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.880 and Awesome Venue on the Waterfront in Washington, DC. So 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.479 we would urge everyone to get out there solidverbotickets dot 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.080 com is where you can go if you want to 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.240 get in on tickets. We've got it posted a number 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.719 of different places out on social media. Very excited. Tickets 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.599 the first day went like hotcakes. There are still some left. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.680 We would urge you that if you're going to be 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.680 in the DC area, if you're close to the DC area, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.720 if you can get to the DC area, it's going 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.400 to be a fun show Sunday, August the eighteenth. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.960 We're really excited about it. We're going to do fantasy things. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.679 Yes, I mean we're it's still unconfirmed Big twelve location, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.080 still working on it. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.400 Yeah, but yes, at least for now, we've got one 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.400 live show that is locked up in DC. So if 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.640 you got any questions, hit us up. But in the meantime, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.200 DC show is happening August the eighteenth. Please get your tickets. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:58.479 We'd love to meet you and say hello. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.520 As an addendum, tie a phrase selling like hotcakes originated 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.000 in the eighteen hundreds when simple cornmeal versions were sold 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:10.400 at church bake sales and snapped up by the congregation. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.880 Before they went cold. Thank you, Daniel, no problem. 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I think that's it. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.800 We hope to see you, know if you ended up 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.599 in DC after college or for work, or because a 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.599 loved one brought you there, we hope to see you 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.440 and bring your loved ones and pals who enjoy college 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.200 football and weird college football shows to the what is 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:20.160 the Union Stage, Tye Union Stage on August the eighteenth. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.560 We are quite excited to do a show in a 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.160 new locale and so this is our our annual show 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.520 that we have a ton of fun doing. It's multimedia 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.080 and tie is so much taller in person than you 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.920 think I am so don't pass up that opportunity. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.440 All right, Dan, where do we want to start here 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.760 with these questions that were sent in? 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.320 All right, let's start that. Let's start with. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.320 Bup up, up, up up. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.120 Let's start with Kevin. Okay, what'll it take for the 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.440 full back position to make a comeback? Let's start here 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.520 with the forgotten fullbacks of. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:08:00.160 Your the forgotten fullbacks of your Yeah, college football, well 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.720 sports in general, but especially college football, it seems very cyclical. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.320 Disagree, I mean a little bit. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.840 Even though offenses have changed a great deal and gone 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.680 in entirely different direction than they were when fullbacks were 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:18.720 still a very prominent position within college football. I would expect, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.120 and I've said this forever, at some point in time, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.560 with everyone going smaller and faster and more versatile and 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.880 taking better advantage of space, eventually, at some point it's 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.400 going to swing in the other direction and there's going 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.160 to be this renaissance back to the future. At that point, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.440 potentially the fullback could make a comeback. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:41.280 Is there anything? 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.839 And I understand that teams have used concepts that you 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.760 harken back to the single wing or the veer and 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.640 stuff like that that are inspired by, but at the 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:55.040 same time it's almost injecting those concepts into more modern frameworks. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:00.960 It's hard to imagine seeing programs dead kate a position 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:07.080 to blocking to help open up lanes and occasionally sort 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.520 of squirt out for third and three passes kind of thing. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.840 It's hard to imagine that we are going to revert 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.600 to that kind of athletes. That said, the H back 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.880 is taking a lot of you know, in spread systems, 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.440 the H back, which is more of a fullback tight 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.559 end hybrid, you know, on those sort of wham running plays, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.000 going out for passes, leading the way in sort of 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.280 power sets, even if they're even if a team is 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.280 playing the spread. I don't I can't imagine full time 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:35.920 fullbacks are going to come back everywhere. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.000 So you think that the modern fullback is a guy 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:40.280 like Jalen Samuels. 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.839 Yes, I think you're going to see guys you need 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.280 to be able to offer me two or three quality 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.600 things with speed in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.120 because that's just that's where high schools have gone, that's 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.000 where colleges have gone, and that's where more and more 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.560 pro I mean, we see a lot of fullbacks. I 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.040 know the forty nine ers I think just paid a 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.160 ton of money for a fullback weirdly, but mostly where 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.640 you see where the sport is going. It's hard to 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.280 imagine saying I need that five two and twenty pound 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.800 guy who's not super fast, who doesn't offer me much 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:20.040 as the game goes out open wide. But here's the caveat. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.400 I think you're right that defenses will continue to evolve 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.840 to play against these spread and guys that are offenses 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.640 that are using the full width of the field. I 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.240 imagine that we're going to see more two way players 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.480 that aren't necessarily fullbacks in the way that was it 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.079 Owen Mari Sick for Stanford played linebacker and full back 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.800 in a couple of games. I don't think we're going 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.200 to see that kind of full time two way play. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.480 But more to what Ian Boyd talked about way back 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.760 when on this show, where we see four minute offenses 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:54.440 to just ram the ball and use up clock, give 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.520 the give some of the defense some rest, but bringing 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.600 an outside linebacker, bringing a defensive end. All this you're 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.320 playing with heavy sets, you're draining clock, and you're just 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.560 trying to get five yards at a time, and I 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.040 think guys like that will start assuming some of the 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.840 responsibilities of fullback without dedicating a scholarship to generally a 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:15.760 guy named Joe. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:20.920 So you're thinking more Miles jacks out there, more Miles Jackson, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.000 not necessarily carrying the ball, but yes, all of a sudden, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.840 it's you know, three guys in the backfield, two of 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.920 whom are sort of an h back positions and one 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.600 of them is Christian Wilkins. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.320 That kind of thing. And it's not just in the 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.560 red zone. It's not just on the goal line, but it's, oh, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.880 we're up five with three point fifty two left and 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.719 we want to kill clock, but we still want to 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.640 be aggressive about it and creative about it instead of 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.600 just going straight at defenses. And maybe there's misdirection, and 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.480 maybe there's misdirection with power. I think I hope, My 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.640 hope is that we see more of that to get 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.680 more of the best athletes on a team, not just 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:57.920 on offense, on the field. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.160 So in conclusion, yeah, Moose Johnston ain't walking through that 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:03.280 door anytime soon. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.559 It's tough to see that. It's tough to see it. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.800 It's either going to require a dramatic slow evolution of 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.840 college football back to its power roots, let's say of 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.480 the old Nebraska days three yards and a cloud of dust, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.160 or it's going to require some hybrid version like the 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.439 h back, two way players something like that to take 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:23.000 hold in college. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.520 I mean, is there is there another sport in which 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.400 all of the sudden, somebody who is not offering an 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.240 advanced athletic option making like are we going to see 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.880 baseball players that look like kent Herbeck ever? 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.719 Again? Probably not? Probably, I mean the NBA is a 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:40.280 good example. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.360 The NBA's are great, Like, are we going to see 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.600 power forwards just like settling for ten footers and playing 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:47.400 with their back to the back. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.800 Everyone can shoot now, everyone can dribble. It's it's a 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.360 different game. Things have changed. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.480 It's and I understand, you know, size in every sport, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.000 and I understand, you know, the sort of quote unicorn 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.560 nature of different players in different sports. But it's hard 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.920 to imagine we're going to go back to seeing many 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.440 teams say we're going old school and succeeding doing it. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.719 Kent her back, Okay, is that guys? That is a 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:11.640 twins he was. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.400 I don't mean to slander in's first basement Yeah, he 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.920 was the first like nineteen ninety three player I could 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.640 think of who's probably not built like a god. He 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.400 pulled a guy off the bag in the World Series, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.440 if I remember correctly. Okay, we got to move on here. Yeah, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.959 we've got a question from someone named Jet. I'm just 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.600 going to assume that Jet is Jet Toner former kicker Stanford. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:34.120 Yes, I believe. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.640 Okay, he says, and that's thematic here because he said, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.920 what will it take for DoD the PAC twelve to 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:41.800 be relevant again? 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:42.040 Dan? 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.280 So, yeah, I did have a chance to deep drill 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.240 this one. My guess is that my opinion is in 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.280 as turbo charged as yours. I vary with mine, but 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:54.520 continue in the short term. The thing that has really 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.960 haunted the Pac twelve is they just they need a 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.840 team with a lot of credibility coming out of the 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.120 regular season and to perform better in the playoff. You 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.840 need to get a team in the playoff, and Washington 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.880 has been that team in recent years that hasn't performed 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.680 as well as maybe we hoped coming out of the 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.920 regular season. But they need they just need a team 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.600 to go undefeed it and that's a very easy starting point. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.840 I think that's correct. I don't know. I don't know. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.640 If people look at the PAC twelve and say, oh, 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.080 Oregon went undefeated, Washington went undefeated, that conference is in 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.600 good shape. I think it's a good thing for the conference, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.520 and I think it's a good thing financially for a 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.560 team to make the playoff and to have you know, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:39.760 as many teams as possible playing playoff games or New 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.280 Year's was New Year six games. That's great. That's wonderful 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.520 financially for the financial health of the conference and payouts 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.400 to other teams, you know, rising tide, et cetera. I 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.000 think in terms of when I see the word relevant, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.480 I think I think about reputation. I think about what 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.360 somebody in Ohio thinks, somebody in Florida thing, somebody in 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.840 Texas thinks, somebody in New Mexico things. Shout out to 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.400 all our New Mexicans. You got to win big and 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.160 the winnable September non conference games. Last year, we saw 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.840 Washington come close but not beat Auburn. That game came 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.320 down and probably a questionable no call on the Jake 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.640 Browning hit. Oregon has Auburn to start the year off 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.680 at Jerry World. They need to win that game. For 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.840 the PAC twelve in terms of talking about relevance and reputation, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.760 they need to win those games, and they need to 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.600 win the winnable games. You feel like, can't lose to Cincinnati. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.800 I know it's Cincinnati's good. I know it was Chip 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.960 Kelly's first game that was a winnable game that they lost. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.280 They need to win all of those games. They can't 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.640 lose dumb games, and they need to win the big games. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.280 I know that might be asking a lot, but this 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.720 is a conference with resources, good quarterbacks, with good coaches, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.680 and so they need to establish that early on. So 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.560 in week five you're thinking to yourself, you know what, Yeah, 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.880 I will watch Oregon Arizona. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.040 Because Oregon beat Auburn and I want to see what 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:55.480 they look like. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.560 Now here's something else that I think could be important. Yeah, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:04.280 you're talking about PAC twelve real events. Let's look at USC. Sure, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.440 a lot of people who aren't in PAC twelve country. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.280 Maybe you're just moonlighting as PAC twelve fans watching a 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.160 game late night on a Saturday, they look at the 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.360 PAC twelve, they think of USC. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:16.160 Yeah. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.480 USC has been very so so over the last couple 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.560 of years. Now, if USC can rise under Clay Helton 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:29.640 or anybody else, really we rise and more become a 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.920 threat in the PAC twelve and on the national stage. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.600 I think that helps. That helps the reputation of the conference. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.960 Again, totally true. I think the two teams who have 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.680 really branded themselves well in terms of success in the 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.080 PAC twelve or USC in Oregon, even though Washington has 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.800 been really good recently. I don't know how much national 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.640 interest there is, and maybe I'm wrong here is if 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.320 USC is the bell Weather, which I think is a 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:55.720 pretty good case, they open the season Fresno State at 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.880 home ten thirty pm. Kick Week two, Stanford at USC, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.040 which it's a pretty light week in terms of games 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.960 that potentially could have natural national interest. I'm not saying 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.240 Stanford USC is at the top of that list the 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.240 same week as Texas, LSU, and I think A and 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.520 M Clemson, but Stanford USC the premier game in the 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.560 conference that week. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:16.600 Ten thirty pm Eastern. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.359 So if the case is to be made that USC 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.280 is the bell weather of how the conference is doing 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.120 health wise, that's how they're opening the season. You taught 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.080 USC week four, nine pm Eastern. I think it's a 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.199 Friday night game and then other random games early on 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.520 that just to me sound interesting, like I would want 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:34.320 to watch that if I. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.040 Liked college football. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.399 Texas Tech Arizona Week three, ten thirty pm kick Khalil 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.160 Tait new coach for Texas Tech, but you know, returning 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:45.399 quarterback British comedy legend Alan Bowman, and then Wazoo Houston 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.720 Mike Leach Dana Holgerson Week three, nine to fifteen pm 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.480 Eastern time kick. I think it's in Houston, but not 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:56.200 at Houston. So that's Those are all interesting sounding games 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.480 to me, potentially, and if you are living any in 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.280 Central time East Coast time, probably not seeing the end 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:05.640 of potentially a really good game. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.160 Oh well, Joel writes in what will it take for 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:15.080 Adrian Martinez to win the Heisman Day? And Adrian Martinez, Yeah, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:20.639 exciting quarterback. Young quarterback for Nebraska was really the first 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.000 big recruit that Scott Frost was able to capture after 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:26.440 he took the job in Lincoln. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.040 By the way, did you see Bruce Feldman's piece today 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.399 about Nebraska's quarterback coach? Really good? Go go to the 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.560 Athletic and read it. He's just like a sort of mercurial. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.760 Interesting dude, not in fully Mike Leachway his name I forgot, 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.359 I don't have his name at the top of my head. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.000 But really good piece about the development of Adrian Martinez 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.760 and in line if you're interested in Joel's what'll it 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.359 take worth reading? 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.160 We know the Heisman Trophy generally goes to a quarterback. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.560 Mm hmm, all right, so he's got that going for him, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.880 which is nice. We also know he's a dual threat guy, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.000 so presumably if he gets things going in the right direction, 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.560 he's going to rack up both passing and rushing yardage. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:10.000 He needs Nebraska to genuinely challenge for that big ten West. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:11.840 That might not even be enough. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.840 Yeah, I think that's right. It's hard for me to 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.120 look at I think JD. Spielman's back, Stanley Morgan's gone 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.080 at receiver. He might be asked to do a lot. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.400 I think the defense will take a step forward, but 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.040 there's I still have a bunch of questions with that defense. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.359 Nebraska has to win games, and they have to beat Colorado. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.359 They have to make up for last year. I'm trying 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.720 to get their schedule in front of me. It's going 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.320 to take a super star year from him, because I 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.640 just I don't see Nebraska at the very very high 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.640 end winning eight games, and he will have to be okay, 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:46.720 I have their schedule in front of me. 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:47.879 They go to Colorado. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.240 I mean, he doesn't say this year in his question. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:52.879