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Speaker 1: And Dan and Ty.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Rubber boys and Girls. My
Speaker 2: name's Ty Hildebrant. I am joined as always, but I'm
Speaker 2: a good friend, colleague and co host over there in
Speaker 2: beautiful New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good?
Speaker 3: I both had a good and bad sign as I
Speaker 3: was walking back to the CLO office from the office,
Speaker 3: and I don't know what it portends for this show,
Speaker 3: but I'm willing to hear you out if I tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, what's the show about? Honesty? As you know,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the show.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about my answers to this sort of
Speaker 3: very specific and non college football Q and A. And
Speaker 3: as I'm walking by a subway station, out of the
Speaker 3: station emerges I'm a perfectly lovely looking woman wearing an.
Speaker 1: Oregon Dux hat.
Speaker 3: Okay, And I said, I said, hot, damn, this is
Speaker 3: gonna be a good show. What a great sign. I'm
Speaker 3: walking home to do this podcast with tie in my clofice,
Speaker 3: my closet office. That's a great sign that we're gonna
Speaker 3: do a good show. And then on my way home
Speaker 3: and I walk by a popular butcher here in Brooklyn, Okay,
Speaker 3: and I was I was like, oh, I'm grilling tomorrow
Speaker 3: for the fourth of July. We're recording this on Wednesday,
Speaker 3: the third, and I'm thinking about going full time butcher
Speaker 3: instead of getting my my ground meat, my sausages, steaks,
Speaker 3: whatever I'm going to grow from, you know whatever, Trader
Speaker 3: Joe's or a local grocery store here, and they're fine,
Speaker 3: but you might as well support a more local business
Speaker 3: and higher quality. They're they're grinding the meat right there
Speaker 3: on the area.
Speaker 2: It's very pro butcher continue And so I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna pop in and get some some
Speaker 2: meat for some burgers tomorrow. And it's it's basically, if
Speaker 2: you've ever seen a subway in a very very crowded
Speaker 2: rush hour international city, people are like pressed up against
Speaker 2: the tour yearning to breathe free the day before the
Speaker 2: fourth of July to grab their their are sorted grilling meats.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to go out later, and the
Speaker 2: butcher's gonna be closed to some grocery store and slummet
Speaker 2: with grocery meat instead of fresh, locally butchered ground meats.
Speaker 2: We've got We've got a I don't know about, I
Speaker 2: don't know fifteen twenty minutes from here called Dietrichs Meats.
Speaker 2: And I took solid wife Cayden there. Oh gosh, must
Speaker 2: have been two years ago, and she was mortified because
Speaker 2: on the walls it's like Deliverance. You've got a lot
Speaker 2: of things hanging that, a lot of local taxidermy on display.
Speaker 3: They do do they do sort of obscure meats.
Speaker 2: Oh, they'll do anything, anything you can imagine. There's a
Speaker 2: counter all the way in the one corner where you
Speaker 2: can find pretty much whatever you're looking for.
Speaker 3: This place is offering camel patties. Yeah, okay, maybe not
Speaker 3: camel patties.
Speaker 2: You can get rattlesnake at this place. Okay, Now, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe that's a Brooklyn thing.
Speaker 3: Yet it might be, well, it doesn't sound like a
Speaker 3: Brooklyn thing. Perhaps Here's here's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say it's a good sign people are
Speaker 3: enjoying the outdoors tomorrow. People are gonna enjoy grilling meat
Speaker 3: and that all wraps together with a nice little bow
Speaker 3: into college football. And we have a very specific Q
Speaker 3: and A that we're I don't know what the title is,
Speaker 3: but basically we asked people to fit their circular questions
Speaker 3: into this this little peg or the peg into the
Speaker 3: hole whatever. We said, what'll it take for blank to happen?
Speaker 3: And you got to fill in the blank. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: we have all sorts of great fill ins here from everywhere,
Speaker 3: fans of every Witch team. You know, we have NJK
Speaker 3: saying what's going to take for Cincinnati to get national respect?
Speaker 3: I know you've been deep diving the Bearcats for a
Speaker 3: few weeks now, so.
Speaker 1: The floor months on these Yeah, you're no, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: we talk about Cincinnati if you'd like to.
Speaker 2: But what'll it take for We've We've got an astounding
Speaker 2: number of questions here that we're going to delve into moments.
Speaker 3: Do you have time to really get to you know,
Speaker 3: we also have a bunch of non college football.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wing this one tonight, Dan, now.
Speaker 3: I know, but do you have you do you have
Speaker 3: a heart out at any time?
Speaker 1: I don't have a heart out. No great, okay, you
Speaker 1: think a three hour show? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
Speaker 3: I'm good if you are, I'm gonna have to take
Speaker 3: an intermission and get some water at a certain point.
Speaker 1: But otherwise all right.
Speaker 2: Well, before we get into yeah, this wonderful assortment of
Speaker 2: questions that have been sent to a a few very
Speaker 2: important housekeeping things that we need to discuss first and foremost.
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Speaker 1: We're really excited about it. We're going to do fantasy things.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean we're it's still unconfirmed Big twelve location,
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, at least for now, we've got one
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Speaker 3: As an addendum, tie a phrase selling like hotcakes originated
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Speaker 1: Before they went cold. Thank you, Daniel, no problem. Random factoid.
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Speaker 3: We hope to see you, know if you ended up
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Speaker 3: the Union Stage, Tye Union Stage on August the eighteenth.
Speaker 3: We are quite excited to do a show in a
Speaker 3: new locale and so this is our our annual show
Speaker 3: that we have a ton of fun doing. It's multimedia
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Speaker 2: All right, Dan, where do we want to start here
Speaker 2: with these questions that were sent in?
Speaker 3: All right, let's start that. Let's start with.
Speaker 1: Bup up, up, up up.
Speaker 3: Let's start with Kevin. Okay, what'll it take for the
Speaker 3: full back position to make a comeback? Let's start here
Speaker 3: with the forgotten fullbacks of.
Speaker 2: Your the forgotten fullbacks of your Yeah, college football, well
Speaker 2: sports in general, but especially college football, it seems very cyclical.
Speaker 1: Disagree, I mean a little bit.
Speaker 2: Even though offenses have changed a great deal and gone
Speaker 2: in entirely different direction than they were when fullbacks were
Speaker 2: still a very prominent position within college football. I would expect,
Speaker 2: and I've said this forever, at some point in time,
Speaker 2: with everyone going smaller and faster and more versatile and
Speaker 2: taking better advantage of space, eventually, at some point it's
Speaker 2: going to swing in the other direction and there's going
Speaker 2: to be this renaissance back to the future. At that point,
Speaker 2: potentially the fullback could make a comeback.
Speaker 1: Is there anything?
Speaker 3: And I understand that teams have used concepts that you
Speaker 3: harken back to the single wing or the veer and
Speaker 3: stuff like that that are inspired by, but at the
Speaker 3: same time it's almost injecting those concepts into more modern frameworks.
Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine seeing programs dead kate a position
Speaker 3: to blocking to help open up lanes and occasionally sort
Speaker 3: of squirt out for third and three passes kind of thing.
Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine that we are going to revert
Speaker 3: to that kind of athletes. That said, the H back
Speaker 3: is taking a lot of you know, in spread systems,
Speaker 3: the H back, which is more of a fullback tight
Speaker 3: end hybrid, you know, on those sort of wham running plays,
Speaker 3: going out for passes, leading the way in sort of
Speaker 3: power sets, even if they're even if a team is
Speaker 3: playing the spread. I don't I can't imagine full time
Speaker 3: fullbacks are going to come back everywhere.
Speaker 2: So you think that the modern fullback is a guy
Speaker 2: like Jalen Samuels.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think you're going to see guys you need
Speaker 3: to be able to offer me two or three quality
Speaker 3: things with speed in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: because that's just that's where high schools have gone, that's
Speaker 3: where colleges have gone, and that's where more and more
Speaker 3: pro I mean, we see a lot of fullbacks. I
Speaker 3: know the forty nine ers I think just paid a
Speaker 3: ton of money for a fullback weirdly, but mostly where
Speaker 3: you see where the sport is going. It's hard to
Speaker 3: imagine saying I need that five two and twenty pound
Speaker 3: guy who's not super fast, who doesn't offer me much
Speaker 3: as the game goes out open wide. But here's the caveat.
Speaker 3: I think you're right that defenses will continue to evolve
Speaker 3: to play against these spread and guys that are offenses
Speaker 3: that are using the full width of the field. I
Speaker 3: imagine that we're going to see more two way players
Speaker 3: that aren't necessarily fullbacks in the way that was it
Speaker 3: Owen Mari Sick for Stanford played linebacker and full back
Speaker 3: in a couple of games. I don't think we're going
Speaker 3: to see that kind of full time two way play.
Speaker 3: But more to what Ian Boyd talked about way back
Speaker 3: when on this show, where we see four minute offenses
Speaker 3: to just ram the ball and use up clock, give
Speaker 3: the give some of the defense some rest, but bringing
Speaker 3: an outside linebacker, bringing a defensive end. All this you're
Speaker 3: playing with heavy sets, you're draining clock, and you're just
Speaker 3: trying to get five yards at a time, and I
Speaker 3: think guys like that will start assuming some of the
Speaker 3: responsibilities of fullback without dedicating a scholarship to generally a
Speaker 3: guy named Joe.
Speaker 2: So you're thinking more Miles jacks out there, more Miles Jackson,
Speaker 2: not necessarily carrying the ball, but yes, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's you know, three guys in the backfield, two of
Speaker 2: whom are sort of an h back positions and one
Speaker 2: of them is Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 3: That kind of thing. And it's not just in the
Speaker 3: red zone. It's not just on the goal line, but it's, oh,
Speaker 3: we're up five with three point fifty two left and
Speaker 3: we want to kill clock, but we still want to
Speaker 3: be aggressive about it and creative about it instead of
Speaker 3: just going straight at defenses. And maybe there's misdirection, and
Speaker 3: maybe there's misdirection with power. I think I hope, My
Speaker 3: hope is that we see more of that to get
Speaker 3: more of the best athletes on a team, not just
Speaker 3: on offense, on the field.
Speaker 2: So in conclusion, yeah, Moose Johnston ain't walking through that
Speaker 2: door anytime soon.
Speaker 1: It's tough to see that. It's tough to see it.
Speaker 2: It's either going to require a dramatic slow evolution of
Speaker 2: college football back to its power roots, let's say of
Speaker 2: the old Nebraska days three yards and a cloud of dust,
Speaker 2: or it's going to require some hybrid version like the
Speaker 2: h back, two way players something like that to take
Speaker 2: hold in college.
Speaker 3: I mean, is there is there another sport in which
Speaker 3: all of the sudden, somebody who is not offering an
Speaker 3: advanced athletic option making like are we going to see
Speaker 3: baseball players that look like kent Herbeck ever?
Speaker 1: Again? Probably not? Probably, I mean the NBA is a
Speaker 1: good example.
Speaker 3: The NBA's are great, Like, are we going to see
Speaker 3: power forwards just like settling for ten footers and playing
Speaker 3: with their back to the back.
Speaker 2: Everyone can shoot now, everyone can dribble. It's it's a
Speaker 2: different game. Things have changed.
Speaker 3: It's and I understand, you know, size in every sport,
Speaker 3: and I understand, you know, the sort of quote unicorn
Speaker 3: nature of different players in different sports. But it's hard
Speaker 3: to imagine we're going to go back to seeing many
Speaker 3: teams say we're going old school and succeeding doing it.
Speaker 1: Kent her back, Okay, is that guys? That is a
Speaker 1: twins he was.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to slander in's first basement Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was the first like nineteen ninety three player I could
Speaker 2: think of who's probably not built like a god. He
Speaker 2: pulled a guy off the bag in the World Series,
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly. Okay, we got to move on here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we've got a question from someone named Jet. I'm just
Speaker 2: going to assume that Jet is Jet Toner former kicker Stanford.
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe.
Speaker 2: Okay, he says, and that's thematic here because he said,
Speaker 2: what will it take for DoD the PAC twelve to
Speaker 2: be relevant again?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I did have a chance to deep drill
Speaker 2: this one. My guess is that my opinion is in
Speaker 2: as turbo charged as yours. I vary with mine, but
Speaker 2: continue in the short term. The thing that has really
Speaker 2: haunted the Pac twelve is they just they need a
Speaker 2: team with a lot of credibility coming out of the
Speaker 2: regular season and to perform better in the playoff. You
Speaker 2: need to get a team in the playoff, and Washington
Speaker 2: has been that team in recent years that hasn't performed
Speaker 2: as well as maybe we hoped coming out of the
Speaker 2: regular season. But they need they just need a team
Speaker 2: to go undefeed it and that's a very easy starting point.
Speaker 1: I think that's correct. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: If people look at the PAC twelve and say, oh,
Speaker 3: Oregon went undefeated, Washington went undefeated, that conference is in
Speaker 3: good shape. I think it's a good thing for the conference,
Speaker 3: and I think it's a good thing financially for a
Speaker 3: team to make the playoff and to have you know,
Speaker 3: as many teams as possible playing playoff games or New
Speaker 3: Year's was New Year six games. That's great. That's wonderful
Speaker 3: financially for the financial health of the conference and payouts
Speaker 3: to other teams, you know, rising tide, et cetera. I
Speaker 3: think in terms of when I see the word relevant,
Speaker 3: I think I think about reputation. I think about what
Speaker 3: somebody in Ohio thinks, somebody in Florida thing, somebody in
Speaker 3: Texas thinks, somebody in New Mexico things. Shout out to
Speaker 3: all our New Mexicans. You got to win big and
Speaker 3: the winnable September non conference games. Last year, we saw
Speaker 3: Washington come close but not beat Auburn. That game came
Speaker 3: down and probably a questionable no call on the Jake
Speaker 3: Browning hit. Oregon has Auburn to start the year off
Speaker 3: at Jerry World. They need to win that game. For
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve in terms of talking about relevance and reputation,
Speaker 3: they need to win those games, and they need to
Speaker 3: win the winnable games. You feel like, can't lose to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I know it's Cincinnati's good. I know it was Chip
Speaker 3: Kelly's first game that was a winnable game that they lost.
Speaker 3: They need to win all of those games. They can't
Speaker 3: lose dumb games, and they need to win the big games.
Speaker 3: I know that might be asking a lot, but this
Speaker 3: is a conference with resources, good quarterbacks, with good coaches,
Speaker 3: and so they need to establish that early on. So
Speaker 3: in week five you're thinking to yourself, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will watch Oregon Arizona.
Speaker 1: Because Oregon beat Auburn and I want to see what
Speaker 1: they look like.
Speaker 2: Now here's something else that I think could be important. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're talking about PAC twelve real events. Let's look at USC. Sure,
Speaker 2: a lot of people who aren't in PAC twelve country.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're just moonlighting as PAC twelve fans watching a
Speaker 2: game late night on a Saturday, they look at the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve, they think of USC.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: USC has been very so so over the last couple
Speaker 2: of years. Now, if USC can rise under Clay Helton
Speaker 2: or anybody else, really we rise and more become a
Speaker 2: threat in the PAC twelve and on the national stage.
Speaker 2: I think that helps. That helps the reputation of the conference.
Speaker 3: Again, totally true. I think the two teams who have
Speaker 3: really branded themselves well in terms of success in the
Speaker 3: PAC twelve or USC in Oregon, even though Washington has
Speaker 3: been really good recently. I don't know how much national
Speaker 3: interest there is, and maybe I'm wrong here is if
Speaker 3: USC is the bell Weather, which I think is a
Speaker 3: pretty good case, they open the season Fresno State at
Speaker 3: home ten thirty pm. Kick Week two, Stanford at USC,
Speaker 3: which it's a pretty light week in terms of games
Speaker 3: that potentially could have natural national interest. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: Stanford USC is at the top of that list the
Speaker 3: same week as Texas, LSU, and I think A and
Speaker 3: M Clemson, but Stanford USC the premier game in the
Speaker 3: conference that week.
Speaker 1: Ten thirty pm Eastern.
Speaker 3: So if the case is to be made that USC
Speaker 3: is the bell weather of how the conference is doing
Speaker 3: health wise, that's how they're opening the season. You taught
Speaker 3: USC week four, nine pm Eastern. I think it's a
Speaker 3: Friday night game and then other random games early on
Speaker 3: that just to me sound interesting, like I would want
Speaker 3: to watch that if I.
Speaker 1: Liked college football.
Speaker 3: Texas Tech Arizona Week three, ten thirty pm kick Khalil
Speaker 3: Tait new coach for Texas Tech, but you know, returning
Speaker 3: quarterback British comedy legend Alan Bowman, and then Wazoo Houston
Speaker 3: Mike Leach Dana Holgerson Week three, nine to fifteen pm
Speaker 3: Eastern time kick. I think it's in Houston, but not
Speaker 3: at Houston. So that's Those are all interesting sounding games
Speaker 3: to me, potentially, and if you are living any in
Speaker 3: Central time East Coast time, probably not seeing the end
Speaker 3: of potentially a really good game.
Speaker 2: Oh well, Joel writes in what will it take for
Speaker 2: Adrian Martinez to win the Heisman Day? And Adrian Martinez, Yeah,
Speaker 2: exciting quarterback. Young quarterback for Nebraska was really the first
Speaker 2: big recruit that Scott Frost was able to capture after
Speaker 2: he took the job in Lincoln.
Speaker 3: By the way, did you see Bruce Feldman's piece today
Speaker 3: about Nebraska's quarterback coach? Really good? Go go to the
Speaker 3: Athletic and read it. He's just like a sort of mercurial.
Speaker 3: Interesting dude, not in fully Mike Leachway his name I forgot,
Speaker 3: I don't have his name at the top of my head.
Speaker 3: But really good piece about the development of Adrian Martinez
Speaker 3: and in line if you're interested in Joel's what'll it
Speaker 3: take worth reading?
Speaker 2: We know the Heisman Trophy generally goes to a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, all right, so he's got that going for him,
Speaker 2: which is nice. We also know he's a dual threat guy,
Speaker 2: so presumably if he gets things going in the right direction,
Speaker 2: he's going to rack up both passing and rushing yardage.
Speaker 2: He needs Nebraska to genuinely challenge for that big ten West.
Speaker 2: That might not even be enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. It's hard for me to
Speaker 3: look at I think JD. Spielman's back, Stanley Morgan's gone
Speaker 3: at receiver. He might be asked to do a lot.
Speaker 3: I think the defense will take a step forward, but
Speaker 3: there's I still have a bunch of questions with that defense.
Speaker 3: Nebraska has to win games, and they have to beat Colorado.
Speaker 3: They have to make up for last year. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get their schedule in front of me. It's going
Speaker 3: to take a super star year from him, because I
Speaker 3: just I don't see Nebraska at the very very high
Speaker 3: end winning eight games, and he will have to be okay,
Speaker 3: I have their schedule in front of me.
Speaker 1: They go to Colorado.
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't say this year in his question.
Speaker 2: He just says people would take for him to win
Speaker 2: the Heisman and that probably doesn't happen this year. But
Speaker 2: moving forward, what is it take to win? What does
Speaker 2: it take to get in the conversation. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's all that complicated Joel it it just needs
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 3: Right he gets Ohio State early on in the season
Speaker 3: this year if we are talking about this year, which
Speaker 3: who knows. So he has to have another killer game
Speaker 3: against the Buckeyes and to close like he has a
Speaker 3: tougher November Purdue, Wisconsin, Maryland, Iowa and has to finish strong.
Speaker 3: If if they are flirting with nine wins, I don't
Speaker 3: think the context will be good enough. But that's going
Speaker 3: to be crazy impressed from Nebraska and Adril Martinez. And
Speaker 3: if it's a down year and he's putting on you know,
Speaker 3: if he has thirty eight touchdowns to three interceptions at
Speaker 3: a certain point. My favorite phrase it's going to be
Speaker 3: impossible to ignore a player like that.
Speaker 1: All Right, what will it take four.
Speaker 2: Florida State to return to the top of the ACC consistently?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How do you feel about this?
Speaker 3: Kendall Briles is going to have to be everything advertised
Speaker 3: and that he's been these you know at Houston and
Speaker 3: what he did at Baylor.
Speaker 1: On the field.
Speaker 3: I think they're going to I mean, the incoming class
Speaker 3: is quite good. They're going to have to put together
Speaker 3: top five classes for two. They're gonna have to put
Speaker 3: together two and a half like top five classes, especially
Speaker 3: along the lines, because they look very good at skill
Speaker 3: positions right now. On offense, their incoming class has a
Speaker 3: ton of promising defenders. But if we're talking about returning
Speaker 3: to the top of the ACC, so we're matching and
Speaker 3: getting past Clemson, we're talking about somehow surpassing the gold
Speaker 3: standard right now nationally. So it's going to take huge classes,
Speaker 3: and it's going to take retaining coaches. Taggart hitting on
Speaker 3: this latest defensive coordinator higher. I it's going to take
Speaker 3: more than I can see happening. But I can see
Speaker 3: them returning to competing for the top of the ACC.
Speaker 2: Right It's it's gonna take all of those things that
Speaker 2: you said, quarterback, recruiting, all of those things that you
Speaker 2: just said, plus some sort of coaching turnover at Clemson. Yes,
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe it's reventable as leading.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Clemson right now has so much momentum in the right direction.
Speaker 2: It will I think require something to change that. His
Speaker 2: question again says top of the acc consistently, you could
Speaker 2: do that two years from now, even a year from
Speaker 2: now with great recruiting, with a well coached game against
Speaker 2: Clemson that you just happen to win by like three points.
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem too far fetched to me. Clemson could
Speaker 2: be gettable, sure, but consistently, consistently you need some sort
Speaker 2: of ce change right now. That's that's the only thing
Speaker 2: that comes to mind, because they've got that program loaded
Speaker 2: for bear for years to come. They've just done so
Speaker 2: well on the recruiting front. They're not going to be
Speaker 2: recruiting all duds at Clemson. They're too good for that
Speaker 2: at this point. So I think you got to look
Speaker 2: at coaching turnover. That could be Dabo Obama. Dabo Obama, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dabo Obama help, Daboa Obama helps or Dabbo to the
Speaker 2: NFL or whatever helps uh and then yes, hiring somebody
Speaker 2: at a coordinator spot that always gets the grown for
Speaker 2: good reason, whether it's Andy Ludwig or Scott Leffler or
Speaker 2: Ted Rue for any of those types where they're just
Speaker 2: like keep getting jobs and keep putting out below average
Speaker 2: units that you know Dabbo has some sort of personal
Speaker 2: connection to. I just can't see that specific scenario happening.
Speaker 2: He's just too good at hiring and too good at
Speaker 2: iding coaching talent. But yeah, something.
Speaker 3: Like that where I don't know, he just really really
Speaker 3: whiffs on three crucial hires and something changes within that program.
Speaker 3: But right now it's you're not surpassing Clemson the acc
Speaker 3: outside of something dramatic.
Speaker 2: In that same vein, Mark says, what will it take
Speaker 2: for someone other than Clemson or Alabama to be ranked
Speaker 2: number one at any point in this season? This is
Speaker 2: another question that to me doesn't seem all that complicated.
Speaker 1: Right. The rankings are stupid.
Speaker 2: We've come to that, Kik, I've done a full line.
Speaker 2: They're fine, but we were in some agreement here that
Speaker 2: rankings to a large extent are kind of dumb. So really,
Speaker 2: if Clemson loses a game, if Alabama also loses a game,
Speaker 2: they would both have to lose. It stands to reason
Speaker 2: that they would drop them because when a team loses,
Speaker 2: they almost always drop. Someone else would bubble up and
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be long before Clemson or Alabama found their
Speaker 2: way back to the top. But it would really require
Speaker 2: both of them losing in somewhat close proximity throughout the
Speaker 2: course of the year and for there to be a
Speaker 2: team with a better record below them.
Speaker 3: Well, we see fluctuations in September, right, We sees that
Speaker 3: sometimes people overreact to result the time, all the time,
Speaker 3: and so I could see I don't believe Ohio State
Speaker 3: has anybody huge early on. I mean, I'll due respect
Speaker 3: to Cincinnati and your bear Cat's deep dive since it's
Speaker 3: Florida Atlantic, Cincinnati, Indiana, Miami of Ohio early on in
Speaker 3: their non conference schedule. So Ohio State is probably not
Speaker 3: going to beat anybody. But what if LSU goes into
Speaker 3: Austin and beats Texas forty seven to fourteen, and they're
Speaker 3: ranked number four or five in Week two, they just
Speaker 3: completely obliterate Texas in Austin, Maybe.
Speaker 1: That they just leap frog.
Speaker 3: They leap frog a Clemson team who say struggled with
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. So, yes, Clemson has a very
Speaker 3: losable game in Week two. Alabama, I think they're fine
Speaker 3: early on in terms of opponents that seem like a threat.
Speaker 3: But what if Georgia is number three in the country
Speaker 3: and undefeated Clemson and undefeated Alabama ahead of them, and
Speaker 3: I think it's late September, you would probably know better
Speaker 3: than I. Georgia just demolishes Notre Dame. They demolish a
Speaker 3: big time consensus top seven to twelve team, and Georgia
Speaker 3: beats them fifty five to ten. They're gonna get votes.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get votes. They're not gonna jump both though, No,
Speaker 2: they could jump one of them. They could jump one
Speaker 2: of them, but they're not jumping both. I still think
Speaker 2: it takes well. Maybe in a scenario like that, let
Speaker 2: me let me rephrase. I think if it's that flattening,
Speaker 2: if it's if it's a situation where one of these
Speaker 2: two teams has a loss and Georgia has a great
Speaker 2: flattening like that, potentially there could be a jump up.
Speaker 1: I still think we're just talking early September. But the
Speaker 1: most likely way to.
Speaker 2: Do it is both teams have a loss and someone
Speaker 2: like Georgia just lurks.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, I think the only way to jump one
Speaker 3: of those teams without them losing is by a statement
Speaker 3: win early on. If we're talking specific to early, let's
Speaker 3: go you want to do South Carolina? Yeahs are South
Speaker 3: Carolina next? Okay, so we have how does South Carolina
Speaker 3: get to? This is from Andy? How what'll it take
Speaker 3: for South Carolina to ascend to Florida levels? Which is
Speaker 3: sort of a very vague and up for interpretation quality.
Speaker 3: What does Florida levels mean? What does government mean to you?
Speaker 3: What does Florida mean to you?
Speaker 1: So? What does that? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: That means like a threat, a significant threat to the
Speaker 3: to the SEC East, but not a favorite.
Speaker 1: I would assume. So the last time that.
Speaker 2: I would say South Carolina was truly a threat in
Speaker 2: the SEC, truly deeply a threat to like win.
Speaker 1: The SEC, truly madly, deeply. You got to go back
Speaker 1: to the Steve Spurrier days.
Speaker 2: He told us not to set to bring up Steve Spurrier,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I apologize, It's okay. Steve Spurrier had three
Speaker 2: straight seasons where he won eleven games, right, was that
Speaker 2: was pretty good. They haven't quite gotten back to that.
Speaker 2: They had that one nine win season with the Bowl
Speaker 2: win and the outback ball under mush Champ.
Speaker 1: I guess two years ago, but.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you can see you need to
Speaker 2: start by consistently getting to nine wins. Yeah, that will help,
Speaker 2: and that regular season build regular season wins, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: That will build momentum moving forward. The problem right now
Speaker 2: for South Carolina is they've got to contend with both
Speaker 2: Georgia and Florida in the SEC East and that makes
Speaker 2: life really difficult.
Speaker 3: So if we're talking specific to Florida, what we currently
Speaker 3: believe about Florida as a significant threat to the SEC East,
Speaker 3: South Carolina needs to probably and they've recruited well under
Speaker 3: will Musham, but it's consistent. I want to say top
Speaker 3: twenty classes if you're good, they've been twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: The problem is that's like ninth or eighth in the
Speaker 3: SEC that there's just so many recruiting heavyweights ahead of them,
Speaker 3: both in their division and their conference. So they need
Speaker 3: to probably start recruiting on a Tennessee Auburn type level,
Speaker 3: which are a couple of the teams just ahead of them.
Speaker 3: So that's adding two, three, four or five more blue
Speaker 3: chips to each class, which is tough because recruiting locally.
Speaker 3: South Carolina has a good amount of talent. But that's
Speaker 3: not a regional brand. I hate that word, but I'm
Speaker 3: using it anyway. Like the other team, you know, competing
Speaker 3: against Florida and Georgia, and you know, Tennessee is a
Speaker 3: bigger name, Auburn's a bigger name, and Florida State and
Speaker 3: obviously Clemson in their region. So they're going to need
Speaker 3: to really get aggressive and however, you gotta do it.
Speaker 3: You got to do it. And then they need to
Speaker 3: lift their floor on the field. And last year they
Speaker 3: take a really impressive step forward on offense. You know,
Speaker 3: they give away the Florida game, Texas A and M
Speaker 3: was within their grasp, but defensively they just took such
Speaker 3: a huge step back that they can't be any worse
Speaker 3: than average on either side of the ball, and on
Speaker 3: special teams, they can't give things away because of being
Speaker 3: just well, we can't stop the run for these three weeks.
Speaker 1: They just can't happen.
Speaker 3: If they're going to threaten the division, especially with now Florida,
Speaker 3: presumably improving from where they were under Jim mcawain. So
Speaker 3: they have to raise that floor, and they have to
Speaker 3: they have to take another step forward and put together,
Speaker 3: you know, because of a rough November means depth top
Speaker 3: thirteen twelve classes, I've maybe even top fifteen classes, and
Speaker 3: I could see them as being that threat because we
Speaker 3: saw them against Georgia last year. Threat would not be
Speaker 3: one of the words to describe South Carolina's twenty eighteen
Speaker 3: game against the Dowgs.
Speaker 1: What about Kirby smart deep fakes.
Speaker 3: Kirby smart deep fakes. Yes, if we're going negative, if
Speaker 3: we're going opoh, always really.
Speaker 2: Strong misinformation campaign could help the game Cocks. Just throwing
Speaker 2: that out there.
Speaker 3: I could see Will Muschamp wanting to do the voice
Speaker 3: himself though.
Speaker 1: Ye, this is.
Speaker 3: Definitely Kirby and not Will must Champ. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 3: going to work. Let's do Yeah, I think it's possible.
Speaker 3: It's just it's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 2: Let's do a few more of these here, we got
Speaker 2: so many good ones. How about Andrew Joe moorehead, your guy,
Speaker 2: Joe Moorehead. Okay, he says, what will it take for
Speaker 2: Joe Moorehead to have a big second season at Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about year one under Joe Moorehead.
Speaker 3: High ceiling, low floor. There were really impressive moments That
Speaker 3: defense had such a high ceiling that that I've always
Speaker 3: liked Bob Shoop. I know we had a rough time
Speaker 3: at Tennessee, but going back to where what he did
Speaker 3: at Penn State and what they look like up front
Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Simmons and Montes sweating with Jonathan Abraham who
Speaker 3: was great, uh, sort of playing center field for Mississippi State,
Speaker 3: what they look like on defense had me convinced that
Speaker 3: they're going to be a really tough out and they
Speaker 3: should be. They should have a ceiling of nine probably
Speaker 3: nine wins under Morehead. And so this season specifically, a
Speaker 3: lot of variables replacing a lot on defense, especially up front.
Speaker 3: I like their receivers a whole bunch. I think Kylon
Speaker 3: Hill is one of the more underrated names at running
Speaker 3: back nationally with how he played last year and some
Speaker 3: of those bigger games for Mississippi State, Basically they need
Speaker 3: to start four and oh this year. That includes Kentucky.
Speaker 3: I believe in Starkville they need to split LSU at
Speaker 3: home and they go there against A and M on
Speaker 3: the road. They had a real rough time with LSU
Speaker 3: last year, but under Dan Mullen, always competitive, won some loss,
Speaker 3: some generally close split the road games Auburn, Tennessee both
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I think that's totally respectable.
Speaker 3: The need to beat Arkansas, Ole Miss and Abilene Christian,
Speaker 3: all of this sounds realistic and all of that. If
Speaker 3: that happens, if those splits and those wins at the
Speaker 3: end happen, they go nine to three. Okay, I think
Speaker 3: it's probably Tommy Stevens. Yes, that was gonna be my
Speaker 3: point here. So before Tommy Stevens came onto the scene
Speaker 3: and grad transferred away from State College and pick Starkville,
Speaker 3: it seemed like it was going to be between Keyton Thompson,
Speaker 3: who we saw a little bit last year when Nick
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald was out, and Garrett Trader, who's a freshman.
Speaker 1: That would seem to be. Yeah, that seemed to be
Speaker 1: the quarterback battle.
Speaker 2: But now through Tommy Stevens in the mix, I don't
Speaker 2: know if Tommy Stevens is going to be the guy
Speaker 2: or not. Joe Morehead will make that decision. But I
Speaker 2: do think it helps.
Speaker 1: That would be a weird transfer.
Speaker 2: If it was a transfer, wouldn't be the first time
Speaker 2: that something like that's happened. I like the fact that
Speaker 2: Tommy Stevens is familiar with the Joe Moorehead system because
Speaker 2: last year points in the year for Mississippi State just
Speaker 2: seemed like the offense was out of sync. So to
Speaker 2: bring in a guy like Stevens who knows what Morehead
Speaker 2: wants to do, He's got a lot of familiarity with it,
Speaker 2: that certainly benefits them in the short term. I think
Speaker 2: it's going to take someone Stevens to be the starter
Speaker 2: to really have a good grasp with what more Head's
Speaker 2: trying to do to give them a chance to have
Speaker 2: that big season.
Speaker 3: But do you think if he were good and he
Speaker 3: had a grasp of that system, just at least big
Speaker 3: picture wise, he would have kind of easily won the
Speaker 3: Penn State job. I don't know what this is that
Speaker 3: much experience and familiarity. Obviously it's shifted.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the system looks like now.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it'd be night and day.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that way.
Speaker 2: But keep in mind there's been a lot of turnover
Speaker 2: with a personnel at Penn State. Yeah, on the offensive side,
Speaker 2: so sure, you know they like Sean Clifford and state.
Speaker 2: He's younger, Yeah, yeah, he's younger. He maybe he gives
Speaker 2: them more upside with what they're trying to do. Stevens
Speaker 2: saw an opportunity to go to a place where he's
Speaker 2: familiar and took the opportunity. So I think it's win
Speaker 2: win for Joe moorehead time will tell what it means
Speaker 2: for Tommy Stevens. I think though his grasp of that
Speaker 2: system could help Mississippi State if they want to try
Speaker 2: and become, you know, a better entity in twenty nine ten,
Speaker 2: if they want to have that quote unquote big year.
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing that should be remembered about
Speaker 3: Tommy Stevens and the Mississippi State offense, Nick Fitzgerald completing
Speaker 3: pastes downfield against pretty good teams was ugly twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: and so the bar is very low right now that
Speaker 3: even if Tommy Stevens is fine, even if he's Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: which is not supposed to be an insult, and I
Speaker 3: know it's what it sounds like. That's great because there's
Speaker 3: a lot at Mississippi State right now to be excited
Speaker 3: about both from the coaching I know there's a little
Speaker 3: bit of turnover on offense and the coaching staff. But
Speaker 3: if he's fine, they're probably better than they were last
Speaker 3: year with a good amount of defensive experience in the
Speaker 3: back half of that defense. So yes, even if Sean
Speaker 3: Clifford was clearly the guy at Penn State, Tommy Stevens
Speaker 3: can very well be a fine guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your definition of a big year?
Speaker 2: They made it up to like fourteenth or fifteenth in
Speaker 2: the AP pole if memory serves. Yeah, it was one
Speaker 2: of the best, probably eight defenses in the country, finished
Speaker 2: eight four with the regular season, really good defense. So
Speaker 2: he was starting from a point where he had a
Speaker 2: lot to work with. The offense was obviously a bit
Speaker 2: of a work in progress. But now as we move
Speaker 2: forward into twenty nineteen, a big quote unquote year is relative.
Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent true. And if you need a reminder,
Speaker 3: the worst passing team in the SEC was probably Mississippi
Speaker 3: State last year. I mean it was Arkansas, but after that,
Speaker 3: of teams that were competitive, it was Mississippi State, and
Speaker 3: they were competitive in spite of where they were at
Speaker 3: quarterback throwing the ball. So it's a good position to
Speaker 3: be in.
Speaker 2: MJ writes in with a very interesting question, what will
Speaker 2: it take for Oklahoma to not make the Big Twelve Championship?
Speaker 2: Let me this as well. Will it be enough if
Speaker 2: the Jalen Hurts experiment explodes to keep Oklahoma out of
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve Championship? So you're saying that he's just okay,
Speaker 2: what if he shows up and he's just a total flop,
Speaker 2: He's a disaster.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's all.
Speaker 3: He's a disaster. Oh no, I don't think that'll I
Speaker 3: think that's highly unlikely.
Speaker 2: But what happens if he shows up he's not good
Speaker 2: in the offense, the whole experiment goes bust. Is that,
Speaker 2: in and of itself enough to keep Oklahoma out of
Speaker 2: that game, knowing that they've got a ton of talent
Speaker 2: behind him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because the Heisman winner was at times pretty bad against
Speaker 3: Texas last year, threw a couple of bad picks early
Speaker 3: on and they lose that game. The Heisman winner, Jalen
Speaker 3: Hurts is not the throwing quarterback that Kyler Murray was,
Speaker 3: and I don't anticipate he'll be particularly close. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's turnovers, and not that Jalen Hurts is a turnover
Speaker 3: prone quarterback. But yes, I think I'm basically I think
Speaker 3: we can break it down even easier than that. They
Speaker 3: lose Bedlam in the shootout because the defense by then
Speaker 3: is stressed and even though they're improved, that's the I
Speaker 3: think it's the final game of the year this year.
Speaker 3: So they lose Bedlam and then they lose red River.
Speaker 3: That's a second loss, and things get weird against Iowa
Speaker 3: State again or I mean the road stuff is actually
Speaker 3: really nice. Bedlam's on the road, but otherwise it's Baylor
Speaker 3: with an improving Baylor, a brand new Kansas State and
Speaker 3: Kansas so road wise in the Big Twelve, it's a
Speaker 3: pretty ideal year for Oklahoma. But they lose red River,
Speaker 3: they lose Bedlam, and they lose some sort of toss
Speaker 3: up to Iowa State or TCU.
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, two more of these dan
Speaker 1: only only two more? Run along?
Speaker 3: Man, we got a well, you agreed to do a
Speaker 3: mega show tie.
Speaker 2: What will cake for a team like Alabama, Penn State
Speaker 2: or Clemson to where it alternate uniform for a game.
Speaker 1: Well, what qualifies as an alternate uniform, Dan.
Speaker 2: I have breaking news here for Okay, our question asker, Okay,
Speaker 2: Penn State is actually going to wear something they call
Speaker 2: the Generations of Greatness Special Throwback uniform.
Speaker 1: Oh, on October the fifth.
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up now, which includes numbers on the helmets. Okay,
Speaker 2: they did back in like the late fifties and so bold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. There are a few other
Speaker 1: tweaks here and there.
Speaker 3: I could see one of those schools if they were
Speaker 3: honoring some kind of legend who passed away, and they
Speaker 3: were saying, Okay, this person had such a great game
Speaker 3: against Auburn that for the Iron Bowl, we're wearing this look.
Speaker 3: Or this guy had such a good game against Michigan
Speaker 3: he just passed away, this legend, we're wearing this look
Speaker 3: for this game to honor him instead of just a decal,
Speaker 3: instead of just you know, putting his initials above the
Speaker 3: Nike swoosh. I could see that it would have to
Speaker 3: come together pretty quickly, or that person would have to
Speaker 3: be honored months and months in advance, if it happened
Speaker 3: over spring or something like that, for the following season.
Speaker 3: I could see that, like what Michigan did, and horrifically
Speaker 3: so with those the windowed uniforms, the windowed numbers, or
Speaker 3: the giant M when they played it was the giant
Speaker 3: M was under the lights. I believe I could see
Speaker 3: a more subtle version of that for one of those schools.
Speaker 3: I'm not counting on it, but it could happen.
Speaker 2: Dan, What would it take for the Big Ten to
Speaker 2: kick out and or replace Rutgers.
Speaker 3: It would have to be some sort of off field
Speaker 3: scandal that they would use as an excuse.
Speaker 2: Rutgers is of course, it's an official school of New
Speaker 2: York City.
Speaker 3: It's a Rutgers town for sure, and this place would
Speaker 3: be shut down with anger. But it would be something
Speaker 3: off field. I can't imagine that the Big Ten would
Speaker 3: want to do that.
Speaker 1: It would you know, what it would have to take.
Speaker 3: It would have to take some sort of complete reorganization
Speaker 3: of the posts eason so that you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know when this has happened. It would have to be
Speaker 3: you know, another round of realignment when TV deals are
Speaker 3: up or whatever, where there would have to be some
Speaker 3: sort of complete rejiggering of the sport where we're saying, okay,
Speaker 3: we're we're doing five super conferences or three super conferences
Speaker 3: or four super conferences, And like, who's gonna be left
Speaker 3: standing when the music stops? Well, friends, it's gonna be Rutgers. Well,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Rutgers and probably a couple other schools.
Speaker 1: So it happens.
Speaker 2: If Rutgers gets really good in basketball and is extended
Speaker 2: an invite from the ACC, they become like the twenty
Speaker 2: eighth team in the ACC?
Speaker 1: Could they be coach?
Speaker 2: Are they approachable candidate if they get excellent at basketball?
Speaker 1: Probably not, because just not generating enough revenue. I'll go
Speaker 1: to the Big East.
Speaker 3: The Big East just added Yukon, Right, Yukon is no
Speaker 3: longer an AAC school, I think football wise, I think
Speaker 3: that's so it'll just be like that. What will Okay,
Speaker 3: So what'll it take for Purdue to win the Big
Speaker 3: Ten West?
Speaker 1: So here's what I have.
Speaker 2: I don't think it takes as much as people might think. Okay,
Speaker 2: what do you have?
Speaker 3: So Iowa has a double body blow ahead of Purdue.
Speaker 3: It's it's in Iowa City the Purdue game. I think
Speaker 3: I have Michigan and Penn State leading up to it.
Speaker 3: Northwestern definitely has a tough stretch and a new starting
Speaker 3: quarterback in Hunter Johnson or Johnson. So Hunter Johnson leading
Speaker 3: an offense that at times was disastrously bad, but they
Speaker 3: did find Isaiah Bowser and then improve things. And then
Speaker 3: Wisconsin also has a tough stretch leading up to the
Speaker 3: Purdue game. It's like in Madison, but you know, is
Speaker 3: Jack Cone good? Is it Graham Ertz whatever? Graham Mertz.
Speaker 3: I believe it's a tough, tough name to blend into
Speaker 3: each other. So yes, Wisconsin has the best running back.
Speaker 3: It looks like in college football if everybody's putting nine
Speaker 3: in the box and Wisconsin struggles again and they have
Speaker 3: to deal with injury issues and offense of creativity issues,
Speaker 3: producing a pretty good place the defense will it has
Speaker 3: to be better than what it looked like the last
Speaker 3: time we saw them against Auburn. I want to say,
Speaker 3: Jared Stidham threw for like four hundred yards, possibly all
Speaker 3: to Darius Slayton.
Speaker 2: I was very very against the grain going with Purdue
Speaker 2: in that game, and they got It's okay.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's I mean, you're at Jared Stdam's now
Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback, Darius Slayton's in the league. There's a
Speaker 3: tough team when they're on. So I don't think anybody's
Speaker 3: going to have an offense like that.
Speaker 1: In the West.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they have potentially the best weapon in Rondelle
Speaker 3: Moore outside of Jonathan Taylor touchdown. So yeah, they could
Speaker 3: get lucky with some body blows and get better on
Speaker 3: defense and have things work out.
Speaker 1: Whether it's I think it's Cindelar is probably the guy
Speaker 1: and have him improved. That's the time in.
Speaker 2: The system, board, the Cindularity, the singularity, So yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's crazy. No, We've got another question here, Dylan,
Speaker 2: what will it take for mel Tucker's first year in
Speaker 2: Colorado considered a promising success? So if you take to
Speaker 2: the side the great run that Colorado had maybe two
Speaker 2: years ago, three years ago, I found Oh it's more
Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, it's the year under my back and tire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really has been since two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a bunch of great dbs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, since two thousand and three, we've only seen that
Speaker 2: one winning season for Colorado Buffalo. So to start, he's
Speaker 2: got to get a young core of players assembled. You've
Speaker 2: got to feel somewhat hopeful about the future of the program.
Speaker 2: That might not happen until after his first season. In
Speaker 2: the interim, you need to feel like the team plays hard.
Speaker 2: You need to feel like they improve from start to finish.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's more complicated than that. In the
Speaker 2: short term, there's a lot of room to grow in
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve, a ton of room. So you got
Speaker 2: to start so where. You got to establish your roots
Speaker 2: by recruiting well, but you also need to establish a
Speaker 2: culture by fielding a team that looks like it is
Speaker 2: playing hard and hungry every single down.
Speaker 1: What a way to live, live hard and hungry.
Speaker 3: God, But that's it feels like you're doing sidework for
Speaker 3: Mountain Dew, the new energy bar. I don't know what
Speaker 3: I'm going to say. Okay, their schedule's fine. The road
Speaker 3: stuff is not the best.
Speaker 2: I think they're at Oregon at Wazoo, but they have
Speaker 2: Stanford and Washington at home and they miss who do
Speaker 2: they miss from the north? I think they missed Cal
Speaker 2: which is fine, and unfortunately they miss Oregon State, so
Speaker 2: that would have been nice. But if they start three
Speaker 2: and oh that include a win over Nebraska at home,
Speaker 2: which they did it last year, they have If if
Speaker 2: Leviska Chhanault is not the best receiver in the country.
Speaker 2: It's Jerry Judy and it might still be Leaviska Chenault. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: you start three and oh you go two and two
Speaker 2: at home. So that's splitting USC, Stanford.
Speaker 1: Washington, Arizona.
Speaker 3: So say they beat I don't know, Stanford and Arizona
Speaker 3: and then they just they basically have to win when
Speaker 3: Steven monte excuse me, Stevie Montese is good. Last year,
Speaker 3: they start out undefeated, Colorado fans get upset at us
Speaker 3: for not respecting them, and then what do they lose
Speaker 3: their final seven and he was really good against teams
Speaker 3: that weren't all that good, and they still managed to
Speaker 3: lose that Oregon State game in the Arizona game. So
Speaker 3: they win those two games, they're making a bowl that's something,
Speaker 3: and so make a bowl that's that would be considered successful.
Speaker 3: They weren't bad at anything last year. They were bad
Speaker 3: at not being better against bad teams. They were fine
Speaker 3: on defense. They got healthier than where they were the
Speaker 3: year before. They you know, Leviscus Channault's injury definitely hurt
Speaker 3: them in terms of offensive momentum. But I think the
Speaker 3: staff is fine. If defense is about effort, I think
Speaker 3: melt Tucker's probably going to get a little more effort
Speaker 3: out of this this team, and so maybe they finished
Speaker 3: in the fifties or forties instead of the seventies and
Speaker 3: they make a Bowl. I think six and six is
Speaker 3: a wildly successful year for this Colorado team given the
Speaker 3: sort of upheaval these past couple of years.
Speaker 1: All Right, you get to pick out our final question
Speaker 1: before we move on.
Speaker 3: Okay, we already talked about the Big Ten West a
Speaker 3: little bit. We talked about Jeff Brohm. What'll it take
Speaker 3: for you to believe that Matt Campbell is staying in
Speaker 3: ames long term?
Speaker 1: Long term?
Speaker 3: Okay, So that means in football ease, in college footballs
Speaker 3: long term. As we do this in early July twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen or five years, I was gonna say, if he's
Speaker 3: if he is the coach of Iowa State in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, right now, that feels long term. At the
Speaker 3: end of the twenty twenty two season. So that's for
Speaker 3: full season. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: So what course of actions will make you a believer?
Speaker 2: I will be made a believer if they make him
Speaker 2: a top five highest paid coach in college football.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you think it's about the money for him?
Speaker 3: Doesn't cost a lot from what I understand to live
Speaker 3: healthy and hungry or what did you say, hard and hungry?
Speaker 3: Hungry and hard in ames Iowa.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's about the money, but the
Speaker 1: money is there.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pride thing. Money is a point
Speaker 3: of pride.
Speaker 2: It's right, it's the only one of the only ways
Speaker 2: to show respect, unfortunately in the sport. So I think
Speaker 2: that's got to be a component. But within five years
Speaker 2: there are certainly a lot of jobs that could come open.
Speaker 2: We've had this discussion about Matt Campbell before in the past.
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance he could leave for the NFL.
Speaker 2: That's a possibility when you're a coach of his magnitude,
Speaker 2: of his caliber. At this point, he's going to be
Speaker 2: building up his brand enough where the NFL might be
Speaker 2: an attractive place for him. So it's not just college
Speaker 2: football that I always say it has to contend with.
Speaker 2: I don't see it happening, But if it's gonna happen,
Speaker 2: they're gonna need to pay him handsily.
Speaker 1: Sure, So.
Speaker 3: If in the next three years, both Michigan schools, Notre Dame,
Speaker 3: and Penn State all open, and they come and go.
Speaker 3: In terms of Matt campbell interest or his interest whatever,
Speaker 3: I'll be a pretty firm believer. Here's here's my sort
Speaker 3: of my sub question that goes against a lot of
Speaker 3: the logic and common sense of coaching hires and coaching
Speaker 3: lives that we've seen, you know, since the dawn of
Speaker 3: college football.
Speaker 1: Basically, if he.
Speaker 3: Ends up making I don't know whatever, four or five,
Speaker 3: six million dollars, he keeps going to bowl games, he
Speaker 3: you know, keeps recruiting well, developing quarterbacks, putting together exciting offenses,
Speaker 3: developing guys and putting them in the NFL. Do you
Speaker 3: think we will ever get to a point where guys
Speaker 3: like Matt Campbell and Jeff Brahm, We've seen it with
Speaker 3: some coordinators like Brent Venables at Clemson are just to themselves.
Speaker 3: I like it here, family likes it here. I believe
Speaker 3: Matt Campbell is mayor with a bunch of kids, three
Speaker 3: or four kids, that you know what, I've got it good.
Speaker 3: I don't have the pressure i'd have elsewhere. I know
Speaker 3: that these guys are crazy competitive and they want to win.
Speaker 3: At the biggest places over the biggest places. And I
Speaker 3: know that's what the fallacy is in all of what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But do you think that there are people
Speaker 3: other than Brent Venables out there who basically will say
Speaker 3: to themselves, life's pretty good. Can win the Big twelve here.
Speaker 3: I'm making a lot of money. Family likes it here.
Speaker 3: It's a fun it's fun to be at Iowa State
Speaker 3: and beat Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Are there people out there like that? Sure?
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know if Matt Campbell's that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he is. I don't think Jeff brom is
Speaker 2: that guy. Jeff Brohm had an opportunity to go to
Speaker 2: Louisville and decided not to for one reason or another.
Speaker 2: But Louisville's a probable upgrade over Purdue, but not a
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Louisville is definitely light years ahead.
Speaker 1: And I understand the personal we have.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've gotten to a point yet with
Speaker 2: either of those guys where there have been really high
Speaker 2: level programs that have come after them, And we probably
Speaker 2: can't make that assessment right now. But until someone like
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell turns down Notre Dame program like that, it's
Speaker 2: tough to say.
Speaker 3: There are some and this is a this is kind
Speaker 3: of a flawed example. Who's who's the star of ncis
Speaker 3: Mark Harmon?
Speaker 1: Does that sound right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who are the people on like CSI We're talking Mark
Speaker 3: Helgenberger that are on these long, long running shows. David Caruso,
Speaker 3: Well see David Cruso's goes against it. David Caruso left
Speaker 3: NYPD Blue after the first season because he thought he
Speaker 3: could be a movie star. He was the one who
Speaker 3: had the ambition. So what I'm saying is, are we
Speaker 3: going to have more Franz Dennis Franz than Caruso at
Speaker 3: any point? As it's a very volatile profession, I just
Speaker 3: don't think.
Speaker 2: So, it's not it's not where the coaching world is
Speaker 2: at right now. Well, I mean it's it's the coaching
Speaker 2: world is at. You go to one of these top places,
Speaker 2: if you don't win within three years, we fire you.
Speaker 2: There's a golden parachute at the end of that. Usually,
Speaker 2: so financially they're going to be in a good place.
Speaker 2: I just don't But what if they're happy and making money,
Speaker 2: what if they want to Fronzi? If they want to
Speaker 2: Fronzi by all means Franzi. Yeah, I just don't see
Speaker 2: it happening as a commonality.
Speaker 3: It's a flawed example because NYPD Blue was like a
Speaker 3: top five or ten TV show ratings wise on ABC,
Speaker 3: a huge one of the three huge networks at the time. So,
Speaker 3: but also Dennis Franz perhaps knew that he would not succeed.
Speaker 1: As a movie star.
Speaker 3: Is I just wonder I wonder if Jeff Brown is
Speaker 3: secret Dennis Franz without the butt stuff, because Dennis Franz
Speaker 3: did show his.
Speaker 1: He did and he did do that.
Speaker 2: All right, before we move on, Yeah, I want to
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Speaker 1: Do it all right? Dan? Give me non college football?
Speaker 1: So do you want to?
Speaker 3: We got to We have a string of food questions
Speaker 3: because it is the fourth and people have food on
Speaker 3: their mind. Do you want to start with a string
Speaker 3: of food questions or do you want to conclude with them?
Speaker 1: People are going to their July fourth.
Speaker 2: Picnics, barbecues. I know people get upset about the Thursday
Speaker 2: or Friday, or Saturday or Sunday, I don't know, probably
Speaker 2: all weekend, long weekend. Let's start, but we got to
Speaker 2: go rapid fire. We got a lot of these questions.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, a bunch of them. Let's wrap
Speaker 2: it fire, let's do it.
Speaker 3: What'll it take for tater tot nachos to supplant the
Speaker 3: traditional tortilla chip nachos.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm protat tots, protat tots absolutely, but I'm more
Speaker 2: of a traditionalist when it comes to nachos. What will
Speaker 2: it take Probably a clever marketing campaign from some chain restaurant.
Speaker 3: I like tater tots, I like dipping tater tots. You
Speaker 3: get tater tot nachos, it turns into one giant mess
Speaker 3: of fried potato and gloppy toppings. I would say we
Speaker 3: need to turn the traditional shape of a like a
Speaker 3: McDonald's style hash brown, which you can you can pictures
Speaker 3: like the size of like a big belt buckle tie yep.
Speaker 3: Turn that into like a smaller surfboard shape. We dress
Speaker 3: each one of them individually with whatever charizo, cheese, onion,
Speaker 3: salce or whatever, and you get a much better vehicle
Speaker 3: for whatever toppings you're interested in. I'm totally pro the
Speaker 3: fried potato and especially a hash brown type mini surfboard
Speaker 3: as a nacho replacement vehicle. It needs to be crispy.
Speaker 3: I think that's one crispy, a deep golden brown. What
Speaker 3: food do you not like what wish.
Speaker 1: You did for me?
Speaker 2: It's sushi? Okay, I'm not pro sushi. It seems like
Speaker 2: everyone in the world is.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Have you had sushi outside of the Greater Allentown, Bethlehem
Speaker 3: Northampton area.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna it may be too strong for
Speaker 2: me to say that I don't like it, Okay, but
Speaker 2: it's just it's not something that I ever look at
Speaker 2: and say, oh, I have to have that. Like, I'll
Speaker 2: eat it if I have to, but generally it's not
Speaker 2: something I'm going to order.
Speaker 3: Are you open to the possibility that if you and
Speaker 3: solid wife Kate ended up in Osaka that you would
Speaker 3: be fully mind changed.
Speaker 1: When in Rome in Osaka?
Speaker 3: I'm sure you try it, but are you open to like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, this is Yes, this is spectacularly good.
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm I'm open to that. Yes, I
Speaker 1: wish I liked raw tomatoes. I just don't.
Speaker 3: I really wish that that umami natural MSG. You got
Speaker 3: the brusquetta, you have, salsa's you have. You know they
Speaker 3: add to burgers definitely, But I just, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: rubs me the wrong way.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Next question, when hankering for a fish taco, what's your
Speaker 3: fish of choice? I don't like life is allergic to
Speaker 3: fish tacos. I like a white fish. I don't it
Speaker 3: can be blackened, grilled, fried, whatever. I want a non
Speaker 3: gloppy batter for my for my fried fish taco, and
Speaker 3: probably either a thick corn tortilla or flour, not a
Speaker 3: thin corn. It's got to stand up to a heavier,
Speaker 3: heavier protein like a fried fish would be. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan best dessert item to bring to
Speaker 3: a pot luck style barbecue or cookout party.
Speaker 1: So when they say pot luck style, dam what is
Speaker 1: that means?
Speaker 3: Everybody brings a separate dish. Somebody's in charge of cooking
Speaker 3: the meat, and they're probably the host. But then, okay,
Speaker 3: why don't you bring chips, Why don't you bring fruit salad?
Speaker 3: Why don't you bring dessert? Why do you bring drinks?
Speaker 3: Kind of thing where the host is not responsible for everything?
Speaker 2: Okay, I like a good strawberry shortcakes.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be specific to summer, because I mean
Speaker 3: you are right now strawberry shortcake.
Speaker 2: I like strawberry shortcake. It's usually it's usually light enough
Speaker 2: that will.
Speaker 1: You make the shortcake though? Oh well, I mean in
Speaker 1: the past, I haven't.
Speaker 2: There's no saying that I couldn't, right, But if you've
Speaker 2: got to take something and you're maybe not in the
Speaker 2: mood to bake it, I think that's a good option.
Speaker 3: So what would you make if you were tasked with
Speaker 3: actually preparing something homemade?
Speaker 2: If it's for the July fourth holiday? I think it's
Speaker 2: got to be something cool. Yeah, and I mean that
Speaker 2: literally got to be something cool. So by is there
Speaker 2: some sort of like.
Speaker 1: Ice cream dessert that we can You would make ice cream,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: Making it, but you can buy ice cream to assemble
Speaker 2: as part of a larger dessert item.
Speaker 3: I'd go with a berry crumble. They're really easy. You
Speaker 3: don't have to like make like a pie crust type thing.
Speaker 3: You just mash up a bunch of berries, or you
Speaker 3: can do peaches something like that, a fruit crumble, peaches
Speaker 3: or berries, and then the crumble is just generally like butter, flour,
Speaker 3: some some oats, sugar. That's what I tend to do.
Speaker 3: Can we just put it on top?
Speaker 2: Can we get rid of this question the same way
Speaker 2: we got rid of coach questions? Why every time this
Speaker 2: question comes in? I never have an answer for it. Well,
Speaker 2: you gotta start cooking, man, I do cook. You gotta
Speaker 2: start baking.
Speaker 1: I don't go to enough picnics where I've got to
Speaker 1: do this thing. I never have an answer for it.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to have go to recipes
Speaker 1: for dessert, cookies, whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Let's get you going, get that. It's science. Tw you
Speaker 3: love science. I'm done with this question, okay, Menophic. Next topic,
Speaker 3: best road trip car snacks.
Speaker 1: I gotta say combos here, Dan combos, Okay. Why you
Speaker 1: like the variety? I like the variety.
Speaker 2: I don't like the ones that have the crazy spices
Speaker 2: on them, because if we're talking long car trip, the
Speaker 2: crazy spices could have other plants for your stomach.
Speaker 3: Sensitive sensitive tom tum.
Speaker 2: Just the plain old fashioned combos gives you the nice
Speaker 2: variety of the pretzel. Get your carbs, get some of
Speaker 2: that cheese flavor in there.
Speaker 1: M m yeah, That's where I'm going with it.
Speaker 2: Give me some somehow altered pretzels, you know, seasonally, whether
Speaker 2: it's like a honey pretzel, whether it's some some sort
Speaker 2: of seasoned pretzel for savory and then sweet. I'll just
Speaker 2: if I can get a big old chilled bag like
Speaker 2: I would chill it the night before, put in the
Speaker 2: freezer or the fridge of Reese's pieces, I'm pretty happy. Also,
Speaker 2: just a giant water yeah, some sort of giant water.
Speaker 2: I'm not going with the I'm not going with some
Speaker 2: sort of juice because that'll make it pee quicker, more sugar,
Speaker 2: But yeah, giant water. I have some sort of altered
Speaker 2: pretzel in Reese's Pieces, and I think you can probably
Speaker 2: get both in the same package. Now, next question, I
Speaker 2: think we're out of food questions. Which big relief. Wife
Speaker 2: and I just bought a house and we'll move in
Speaker 2: in September. It's a three bedroom with an open concept kitchen, dining,
Speaker 2: living room. Ooh, fancy my wife. My wife doesn't care
Speaker 2: about football. Should I A turn the office into my
Speaker 2: football viewing room complete with couch, whiskey cabinet, mini fridge,
Speaker 2: giant coffee table, or b dump that extra money into
Speaker 2: the actual living room to take advantage of the large
Speaker 2: entertaining space and watch games in there. He feels like
Speaker 2: a no brainer to me.
Speaker 1: Be feels like it's probably the no brainer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because football season is pretty finite.
Speaker 2: Right, That's my point. If you dump the extra money
Speaker 2: into the living room and really make it into a
Speaker 2: cool place to view anything, it seems like you're killing
Speaker 2: two birds with one stone.
Speaker 3: Mm hm oh yeah. Somebody asked about a good surround sound.
Speaker 3: I think what's the new Dolby? Is it at most Atmosphy?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, Do you have a surround sound movie recommendation?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, because you got you got all fancy set up there.
Speaker 2: No, I've got the Saunos soundbar and two Saunos play
Speaker 2: ones that I have synced up.
Speaker 1: Are they behind the couch?
Speaker 2: They are not behind the couch. No, they're on either side.
Speaker 2: They're in either corner of my living room as you
Speaker 2: look towards the television. Okay, that's been my way of
Speaker 2: achieving some kind of surround sound. I know it's not
Speaker 2: as deluxe as you're doing one eighty. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: where I'm at right now. I don't have any recommendations
Speaker 2: for it, is the same movies anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I will say that would be good to watch on it.
Speaker 2: The Our Planet series on Netflix is pretty damn cool.
Speaker 1: Question surround sound? Yeah.
Speaker 3: The best thing I think I've watched in surround sound
Speaker 3: might be Band of Brothers the HBO. I could see
Speaker 3: that it was terrific and surround really. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: already an incredible mini series, but with that sort of experience,
Speaker 3: it was it was something else. When on a business
Speaker 3: trip and sharing a room with a colleague, do colleague,
Speaker 3: do you a try to go to sleep as early
Speaker 3: as possible, even to the point of faking sleep. B
Speaker 3: stay up and have the good night conversation with someone
Speaker 3: you don't really know. I've had that conversation. I know
Speaker 3: exactly what he's talking about. Or see, stay at the
Speaker 3: bar drinking much later than you normally would to make
Speaker 3: sure your roommate will be asleep by the time you return.
Speaker 1: What kind of business trip is it where they're making
Speaker 1: you room with a colleague?
Speaker 2: Oh, Ty, you've never worked for a startup? Have you
Speaker 2: rooming with a colleague?
Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Wow, Ti, technically our live shows are business trips and
Speaker 3: we've roomed together. This is also true. Okay, like we
Speaker 3: know each other quite well. He's sort of saying he
Speaker 3: doesn't know this person.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: All right, so you've clearly been in this situation. Dan,
Speaker 2: Do you have a recommendation here?
Speaker 1: Go to sleep? Yeah, go to sleep.
Speaker 3: Well, now, I don't sleep nearly as much as i'd
Speaker 3: like to because of the solid baby, so I would
Speaker 3: take every opportunity and use it as an excuse. Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going to turn in early. I don't get a
Speaker 3: full night's sleep basically, ever, so I'm doing that, so
Speaker 3: use that as an excuse. I would also say, as
Speaker 3: a backup, maybe try and get to know the person
Speaker 3: at the bar instead of when the lights go out,
Speaker 3: so at least you are having a conversation. Maybe they
Speaker 3: become a new friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. Cashing your chips as early
Speaker 2: as you can. Yeah, at all costs, avoid the awkward conversation.
Speaker 3: Have the good night conversation at seven pm the hotel bar,
Speaker 3: over dinner, whatever. Next question will be, Okay, this will
Speaker 3: be our final one? Is this is really steering into you?
Speaker 3: I would love to hear tis thoughts on the US
Speaker 3: men's national team. Oh boy, super appropriate now that the
Speaker 3: women are the story and have like the best selling
Speaker 3: jersey ever very Nike.
Speaker 1: When is the Championship Championships on Sunday?
Speaker 2: For both the Sunday who play in the Gold Cup
Speaker 2: presumably provided a win tonight, they'll be in the Gold
Speaker 2: Cup final against Mexico.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the women who play I believe earlier in
Speaker 1: the day over in France. How is the game?
Speaker 3: Last week in Philadelphia? You watched the US team take
Speaker 3: on Kurisou.
Speaker 1: That's right?
Speaker 3: Is it ridiculous? How expensive tickets are? Are the current
Speaker 3: players good enough? Songs? Pulisic and maybe a handful of others.
Speaker 3: Is the system bear Halter, Burholter, Yeah, Burhlter is a system.
Speaker 3: Bur Halter is trying to install working, going to work.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is a loaded question.
Speaker 3: Is the us WNT the best American thing we currently have?
Speaker 1: This is a loaded follow a loaded, loaded question from
Speaker 1: top to bottom. Okay, what's your current state of the USMNT.
Speaker 2: Well, so here's my thing with soccer. Okay, and I've
Speaker 2: said this before. I did not play soccer at any
Speaker 2: point in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible.
Speaker 2: I learned pretty much everything I know from playing the
Speaker 2: FIFA video game and getting interested in international and professional
Speaker 2: soccer with that as a starting point, and then reading
Speaker 2: and researching and learning about it from that point forward.
Speaker 2: I believe Will Leech once referred to this as hipster patriotism,
Speaker 2: and I think that's about right, at least for me.
Speaker 2: I'm very into it. I follow it as closely as anybody.
Speaker 2: I can't speak much to the tactical elements of the
Speaker 2: international soccer scene. I'm just not knowledgeable with that, but
Speaker 2: it does seem like what I saw on Sunday evening
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia was a very lousy, uninspired effort. Whoa by
Speaker 2: the US team, especially in the second half, did not
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 1: They were lucky to.
Speaker 2: Escape that game against Cursow as of one nil, one nil, Yeah,
Speaker 2: first goal early in the game. Header from Weston McKinney.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about a lot of the young players that
Speaker 2: the United States has not the least that is Christian Polissic,
Speaker 2: who is a native Pennsylvanian here. But there are plenty
Speaker 2: of young guns that I think could be really good
Speaker 2: by the time the next World Cup rolls around. But
Speaker 2: at least in the short term, they need to turn
Speaker 2: in more inspired efforts for me to feel good about
Speaker 2: what Craig Berhalter, the new coach, is trying to install
Speaker 2: on the team, because thus far it hasn't been all
Speaker 2: that promising.
Speaker 3: Do you ever find yourself involuntarily moving your thumbs like
Speaker 3: you're holding a PS four controller while.
Speaker 2: You watch the US? Okay, no, I've currently quit FIFA again.
Speaker 2: I know, oh you quit again. I was back into
Speaker 2: it for a while, but I've since quit again. I
Speaker 2: bumped the difficulty up. I'm just not good at it.
Speaker 3: Can we bring the show full circle at our conclusive
Speaker 3: at our conclusion time. Yes, I'm pretty bullish on Cincinnati
Speaker 3: this year. Ah, I'm pretty bullish. I know they go
Speaker 3: to Houston its first year, Hulego trying to retool a
Speaker 3: pretty bad defense of the Cougars. They get UCF with
Speaker 3: your guy, your notre Dame QB. They get Yeah with Wimbush,
Speaker 3: they finished out. You know, Temple could be tricky. I
Speaker 3: know they have a new coach. I'm just I like
Speaker 3: Mikey Warren, I like Desmond Ritter. I like the back
Speaker 3: half of their defense. I like how much better they
Speaker 3: got going from twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. That I
Speaker 3: can't help but feel very good about Cincinnati going against
Speaker 3: an American schedule with a lot of questions Yukon is
Speaker 3: going to be terrible, I'm not. I don't feel particularly
Speaker 3: great about South Florida again, Temple first year coach, Memphis,
Speaker 3: they get Brady White's ninth year whatever however long he's
Speaker 3: been eligible. I'm it's a good year for Cincinnati to
Speaker 3: have a lot in place, even traveling to Columbus to
Speaker 3: play Ohio state early on, and I think you is
Speaker 3: going to look a lot better than they did last year,
Speaker 3: in which you which sincey snuck out a win to
Speaker 3: open the season, I think they're still going to threaten
Speaker 3: double digit wins and if things break right, be a
Speaker 3: top twenty five team.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about that good way to bring things full circle.
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