1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid verbal call that for me. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for dake Ado State? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Is that whoo whoom? 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: And Dan and Ty. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Rubber boys and Girls. My 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: name's Ty Hildebrant. I am joined as always, but I'm 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: a good friend, colleague and co host over there in 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: beautiful New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: are you? 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm good? 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: I both had a good and bad sign as I 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: was walking back to the CLO office from the office, 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: and I don't know what it portends for this show, 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: but I'm willing to hear you out if I tell you. 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, please, what's the show about? Honesty? As you know, 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the show. 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: I was thinking about my answers to this sort of 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: very specific and non college football Q and A. And 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: as I'm walking by a subway station, out of the 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: station emerges I'm a perfectly lovely looking woman wearing an. 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Oregon Dux hat. 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Okay, And I said, I said, hot, damn, this is 25 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: gonna be a good show. What a great sign. I'm 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: walking home to do this podcast with tie in my clofice, 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: my closet office. That's a great sign that we're gonna 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: do a good show. And then on my way home 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: and I walk by a popular butcher here in Brooklyn, Okay, 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: and I was I was like, oh, I'm grilling tomorrow 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: for the fourth of July. We're recording this on Wednesday, 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: the third, and I'm thinking about going full time butcher 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: instead of getting my my ground meat, my sausages, steaks, 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: whatever I'm going to grow from, you know whatever, Trader 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: Joe's or a local grocery store here, and they're fine, 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: but you might as well support a more local business 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: and higher quality. They're they're grinding the meat right there 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: on the area. 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: It's very pro butcher continue And so I'm like, all right, 40 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna pop in and get some some 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: meat for some burgers tomorrow. And it's it's basically, if 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: you've ever seen a subway in a very very crowded 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: rush hour international city, people are like pressed up against 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: the tour yearning to breathe free the day before the 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: fourth of July to grab their their are sorted grilling meats. 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to go out later, and the 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: butcher's gonna be closed to some grocery store and slummet 48 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: with grocery meat instead of fresh, locally butchered ground meats. 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 2: We've got We've got a I don't know about, I 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: don't know fifteen twenty minutes from here called Dietrichs Meats. 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: And I took solid wife Cayden there. Oh gosh, must 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: have been two years ago, and she was mortified because 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: on the walls it's like Deliverance. You've got a lot 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: of things hanging that, a lot of local taxidermy on display. 55 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: They do do they do sort of obscure meats. 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: Oh, they'll do anything, anything you can imagine. There's a 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: counter all the way in the one corner where you 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: can find pretty much whatever you're looking for. 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: This place is offering camel patties. Yeah, okay, maybe not 60 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: camel patties. 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: You can get rattlesnake at this place. Okay, Now, maybe 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: maybe that's a Brooklyn thing. 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: Yet it might be, well, it doesn't sound like a 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: Brooklyn thing. Perhaps Here's here's what I'm going to say. 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to say it's a good sign people are 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: enjoying the outdoors tomorrow. People are gonna enjoy grilling meat 67 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: and that all wraps together with a nice little bow 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: into college football. And we have a very specific Q 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: and A that we're I don't know what the title is, 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: but basically we asked people to fit their circular questions 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: into this this little peg or the peg into the 72 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: hole whatever. We said, what'll it take for blank to happen? 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: And you got to fill in the blank. Yeah, and 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: we have all sorts of great fill ins here from everywhere, 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: fans of every Witch team. You know, we have NJK 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: saying what's going to take for Cincinnati to get national respect? 77 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: I know you've been deep diving the Bearcats for a 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: few weeks now, so. 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: The floor months on these Yeah, you're no, it's I mean, 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: we talk about Cincinnati if you'd like to. 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: But what'll it take for We've We've got an astounding 82 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: number of questions here that we're going to delve into moments. 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: Do you have time to really get to you know, 84 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: we also have a bunch of non college football. 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wing this one tonight, Dan, now. 86 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: I know, but do you have you do you have 87 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: a heart out at any time? 88 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: I don't have a heart out. No great, okay, you 89 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: think a three hour show? What are we doing here? 90 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: What are we doing? 91 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: I'm good if you are, I'm gonna have to take 92 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: an intermission and get some water at a certain point. 93 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: But otherwise all right. 94 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: Well, before we get into yeah, this wonderful assortment of 95 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: questions that have been sent to a a few very 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: important housekeeping things that we need to discuss first and foremost. 97 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: If you didn't get the newsletter, if you didn't see 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: the newsletter, if you haven't been listening to our show 99 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: or following us on social media, surprise, surprise, We are 100 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: doing our next live show, or I should say a 101 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: live show a of August, August the eighth. It's a 102 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: Sunday night. The show starts at seven point thirty. The 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: doors open at six at a place called Union Stage 104 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: and Awesome Venue on the Waterfront in Washington, DC. So 105 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: we would urge everyone to get out there solidverbotickets dot 106 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: com is where you can go if you want to 107 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: get in on tickets. We've got it posted a number 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: of different places out on social media. Very excited. Tickets 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: the first day went like hotcakes. There are still some left. 110 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: We would urge you that if you're going to be 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: in the DC area, if you're close to the DC area, 112 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: if you can get to the DC area, it's going 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: to be a fun show Sunday, August the eighteenth. 114 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: We're really excited about it. We're going to do fantasy things. 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean we're it's still unconfirmed Big twelve location, 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: still working on it. 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, at least for now, we've got one 118 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: live show that is locked up in DC. So if 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: you got any questions, hit us up. But in the meantime, 120 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: DC show is happening August the eighteenth. Please get your tickets. 121 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: We'd love to meet you and say hello. 122 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: As an addendum, tie a phrase selling like hotcakes originated 123 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: in the eighteen hundreds when simple cornmeal versions were sold 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: at church bake sales and snapped up by the congregation. 125 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Before they went cold. Thank you, Daniel, no problem. Random factoid. 126 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: Secondly, we've got t shirts out there, which you can 127 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: find at solidverbal dot com slash store, four of them 128 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: to be exact. We're still working on getting some of 129 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: our older favorites activated, but that's going to happen in 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: very short order. As we said on our last show, 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: We have changed up the ordering process a little bit, 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: and instead of having to wait weeks on end for 133 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: the pre order to finish up and then for the 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: shirts to be printed, we now do it differently and 135 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: if you order, you're going to get them in like 136 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: one to two weeks or somewhere in that vicinity. 137 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, on demand printing, on demand printing. 138 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: If you order it now, you'll have it in time 139 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: for the season, which all too often has been a 140 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: sticky point, no longer a problem. Get on out there, 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: go to solid verbal dot com slash store for more 142 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: information on what we've got to. 143 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Be a no. I think that's it. 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: We hope to see you, know if you ended up 145 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: in DC after college or for work, or because a 146 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: loved one brought you there, we hope to see you 147 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: and bring your loved ones and pals who enjoy college 148 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: football and weird college football shows to the what is 149 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: the Union Stage, Tye Union Stage on August the eighteenth. 150 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: We are quite excited to do a show in a 151 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: new locale and so this is our our annual show 152 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: that we have a ton of fun doing. It's multimedia 153 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: and tie is so much taller in person than you 154 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: think I am so don't pass up that opportunity. 155 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, where do we want to start here 156 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: with these questions that were sent in? 157 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: All right, let's start that. Let's start with. 158 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Bup up, up, up up. 159 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: Let's start with Kevin. Okay, what'll it take for the 160 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: full back position to make a comeback? Let's start here 161 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: with the forgotten fullbacks of. 162 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Your the forgotten fullbacks of your Yeah, college football, well 163 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: sports in general, but especially college football, it seems very cyclical. 164 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Disagree, I mean a little bit. 165 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: Even though offenses have changed a great deal and gone 166 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: in entirely different direction than they were when fullbacks were 167 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: still a very prominent position within college football. I would expect, 168 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: and I've said this forever, at some point in time, 169 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: with everyone going smaller and faster and more versatile and 170 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: taking better advantage of space, eventually, at some point it's 171 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: going to swing in the other direction and there's going 172 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: to be this renaissance back to the future. At that point, 173 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: potentially the fullback could make a comeback. 174 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Is there anything? 175 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: And I understand that teams have used concepts that you 176 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: harken back to the single wing or the veer and 177 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: stuff like that that are inspired by, but at the 178 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: same time it's almost injecting those concepts into more modern frameworks. 179 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine seeing programs dead kate a position 180 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: to blocking to help open up lanes and occasionally sort 181 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: of squirt out for third and three passes kind of thing. 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine that we are going to revert 183 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: to that kind of athletes. That said, the H back 184 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: is taking a lot of you know, in spread systems, 185 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: the H back, which is more of a fullback tight 186 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: end hybrid, you know, on those sort of wham running plays, 187 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: going out for passes, leading the way in sort of 188 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: power sets, even if they're even if a team is 189 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: playing the spread. I don't I can't imagine full time 190 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: fullbacks are going to come back everywhere. 191 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: So you think that the modern fullback is a guy 192 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: like Jalen Samuels. 193 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 3: Yes, I think you're going to see guys you need 194 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: to be able to offer me two or three quality 195 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: things with speed in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, 196 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: because that's just that's where high schools have gone, that's 197 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: where colleges have gone, and that's where more and more 198 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: pro I mean, we see a lot of fullbacks. I 199 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: know the forty nine ers I think just paid a 200 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: ton of money for a fullback weirdly, but mostly where 201 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: you see where the sport is going. It's hard to 202 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: imagine saying I need that five two and twenty pound 203 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: guy who's not super fast, who doesn't offer me much 204 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: as the game goes out open wide. But here's the caveat. 205 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: I think you're right that defenses will continue to evolve 206 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: to play against these spread and guys that are offenses 207 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: that are using the full width of the field. I 208 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: imagine that we're going to see more two way players 209 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: that aren't necessarily fullbacks in the way that was it 210 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: Owen Mari Sick for Stanford played linebacker and full back 211 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: in a couple of games. I don't think we're going 212 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: to see that kind of full time two way play. 213 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: But more to what Ian Boyd talked about way back 214 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: when on this show, where we see four minute offenses 215 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: to just ram the ball and use up clock, give 216 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: the give some of the defense some rest, but bringing 217 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: an outside linebacker, bringing a defensive end. All this you're 218 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: playing with heavy sets, you're draining clock, and you're just 219 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: trying to get five yards at a time, and I 220 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: think guys like that will start assuming some of the 221 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: responsibilities of fullback without dedicating a scholarship to generally a 222 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: guy named Joe. 223 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: So you're thinking more Miles jacks out there, more Miles Jackson, 224 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: not necessarily carrying the ball, but yes, all of a sudden, 225 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: it's you know, three guys in the backfield, two of 226 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: whom are sort of an h back positions and one 227 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: of them is Christian Wilkins. 228 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: That kind of thing. And it's not just in the 229 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: red zone. It's not just on the goal line, but it's, oh, 230 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: we're up five with three point fifty two left and 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 3: we want to kill clock, but we still want to 232 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: be aggressive about it and creative about it instead of 233 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: just going straight at defenses. And maybe there's misdirection, and 234 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: maybe there's misdirection with power. I think I hope, My 235 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: hope is that we see more of that to get 236 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: more of the best athletes on a team, not just 237 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: on offense, on the field. 238 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: So in conclusion, yeah, Moose Johnston ain't walking through that 239 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: door anytime soon. 240 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: It's tough to see that. It's tough to see it. 241 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: It's either going to require a dramatic slow evolution of 242 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: college football back to its power roots, let's say of 243 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: the old Nebraska days three yards and a cloud of dust, 244 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: or it's going to require some hybrid version like the 245 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: h back, two way players something like that to take 246 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: hold in college. 247 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: I mean, is there is there another sport in which 248 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: all of the sudden, somebody who is not offering an 249 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: advanced athletic option making like are we going to see 250 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: baseball players that look like kent Herbeck ever? 251 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: Again? Probably not? Probably, I mean the NBA is a 252 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: good example. 253 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: The NBA's are great, Like, are we going to see 254 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: power forwards just like settling for ten footers and playing 255 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: with their back to the back. 256 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Everyone can shoot now, everyone can dribble. It's it's a 257 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: different game. Things have changed. 258 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: It's and I understand, you know, size in every sport, 259 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: and I understand, you know, the sort of quote unicorn 260 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: nature of different players in different sports. But it's hard 261 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: to imagine we're going to go back to seeing many 262 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: teams say we're going old school and succeeding doing it. 263 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: Kent her back, Okay, is that guys? That is a 264 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: twins he was. 265 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't mean to slander in's first basement Yeah, he 266 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: was the first like nineteen ninety three player I could 267 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: think of who's probably not built like a god. He 268 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: pulled a guy off the bag in the World Series, 269 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly. Okay, we got to move on here. Yeah, 270 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: we've got a question from someone named Jet. I'm just 271 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: going to assume that Jet is Jet Toner former kicker Stanford. 272 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I believe. 273 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: Okay, he says, and that's thematic here because he said, 274 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: what will it take for DoD the PAC twelve to 275 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: be relevant again? 276 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Dan? 277 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I did have a chance to deep drill 278 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: this one. My guess is that my opinion is in 279 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: as turbo charged as yours. I vary with mine, but 280 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: continue in the short term. The thing that has really 281 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: haunted the Pac twelve is they just they need a 282 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: team with a lot of credibility coming out of the 283 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: regular season and to perform better in the playoff. You 284 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: need to get a team in the playoff, and Washington 285 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: has been that team in recent years that hasn't performed 286 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: as well as maybe we hoped coming out of the 287 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: regular season. But they need they just need a team 288 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: to go undefeed it and that's a very easy starting point. 289 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: I think that's correct. I don't know. I don't know. 290 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: If people look at the PAC twelve and say, oh, 291 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: Oregon went undefeated, Washington went undefeated, that conference is in 292 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: good shape. I think it's a good thing for the conference, 293 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: and I think it's a good thing financially for a 294 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: team to make the playoff and to have you know, 295 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: as many teams as possible playing playoff games or New 296 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: Year's was New Year six games. That's great. That's wonderful 297 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: financially for the financial health of the conference and payouts 298 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: to other teams, you know, rising tide, et cetera. I 299 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: think in terms of when I see the word relevant, 300 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: I think I think about reputation. I think about what 301 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: somebody in Ohio thinks, somebody in Florida thing, somebody in 302 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: Texas thinks, somebody in New Mexico things. Shout out to 303 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: all our New Mexicans. You got to win big and 304 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: the winnable September non conference games. Last year, we saw 305 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: Washington come close but not beat Auburn. That game came 306 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: down and probably a questionable no call on the Jake 307 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: Browning hit. Oregon has Auburn to start the year off 308 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: at Jerry World. They need to win that game. For 309 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve in terms of talking about relevance and reputation, 310 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: they need to win those games, and they need to 311 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: win the winnable games. You feel like, can't lose to Cincinnati. 312 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: I know it's Cincinnati's good. I know it was Chip 313 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: Kelly's first game that was a winnable game that they lost. 314 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: They need to win all of those games. They can't 315 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: lose dumb games, and they need to win the big games. 316 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: I know that might be asking a lot, but this 317 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: is a conference with resources, good quarterbacks, with good coaches, 318 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: and so they need to establish that early on. So 319 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: in week five you're thinking to yourself, you know what, Yeah, 320 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: I will watch Oregon Arizona. 321 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Because Oregon beat Auburn and I want to see what 322 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: they look like. 323 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: Now here's something else that I think could be important. Yeah, 324 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: you're talking about PAC twelve real events. Let's look at USC. Sure, 325 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people who aren't in PAC twelve country. 326 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Maybe you're just moonlighting as PAC twelve fans watching a 327 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: game late night on a Saturday, they look at the 328 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: PAC twelve, they think of USC. 329 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 330 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: USC has been very so so over the last couple 331 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: of years. Now, if USC can rise under Clay Helton 332 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: or anybody else, really we rise and more become a 333 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: threat in the PAC twelve and on the national stage. 334 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: I think that helps. That helps the reputation of the conference. 335 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: Again, totally true. I think the two teams who have 336 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: really branded themselves well in terms of success in the 337 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: PAC twelve or USC in Oregon, even though Washington has 338 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: been really good recently. I don't know how much national 339 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: interest there is, and maybe I'm wrong here is if 340 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: USC is the bell Weather, which I think is a 341 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: pretty good case, they open the season Fresno State at 342 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: home ten thirty pm. Kick Week two, Stanford at USC, 343 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: which it's a pretty light week in terms of games 344 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: that potentially could have natural national interest. I'm not saying 345 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: Stanford USC is at the top of that list the 346 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: same week as Texas, LSU, and I think A and 347 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: M Clemson, but Stanford USC the premier game in the 348 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: conference that week. 349 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Ten thirty pm Eastern. 350 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: So if the case is to be made that USC 351 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: is the bell weather of how the conference is doing 352 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: health wise, that's how they're opening the season. You taught 353 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: USC week four, nine pm Eastern. I think it's a 354 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: Friday night game and then other random games early on 355 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: that just to me sound interesting, like I would want 356 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: to watch that if I. 357 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Liked college football. 358 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: Texas Tech Arizona Week three, ten thirty pm kick Khalil 359 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 3: Tait new coach for Texas Tech, but you know, returning 360 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: quarterback British comedy legend Alan Bowman, and then Wazoo Houston 361 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: Mike Leach Dana Holgerson Week three, nine to fifteen pm 362 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: Eastern time kick. I think it's in Houston, but not 363 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: at Houston. So that's Those are all interesting sounding games 364 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: to me, potentially, and if you are living any in 365 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: Central time East Coast time, probably not seeing the end 366 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: of potentially a really good game. 367 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: Oh well, Joel writes in what will it take for 368 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: Adrian Martinez to win the Heisman Day? And Adrian Martinez, Yeah, 369 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: exciting quarterback. Young quarterback for Nebraska was really the first 370 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: big recruit that Scott Frost was able to capture after 371 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: he took the job in Lincoln. 372 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: By the way, did you see Bruce Feldman's piece today 373 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: about Nebraska's quarterback coach? Really good? Go go to the 374 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: Athletic and read it. He's just like a sort of mercurial. 375 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: Interesting dude, not in fully Mike Leachway his name I forgot, 376 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: I don't have his name at the top of my head. 377 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: But really good piece about the development of Adrian Martinez 378 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: and in line if you're interested in Joel's what'll it 379 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: take worth reading? 380 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: We know the Heisman Trophy generally goes to a quarterback. 381 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, all right, so he's got that going for him, 382 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: which is nice. We also know he's a dual threat guy, 383 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: so presumably if he gets things going in the right direction, 384 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: he's going to rack up both passing and rushing yardage. 385 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: He needs Nebraska to genuinely challenge for that big ten West. 386 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: That might not even be enough. 387 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. It's hard for me to 388 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: look at I think JD. Spielman's back, Stanley Morgan's gone 389 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: at receiver. He might be asked to do a lot. 390 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: I think the defense will take a step forward, but 391 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: there's I still have a bunch of questions with that defense. 392 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: Nebraska has to win games, and they have to beat Colorado. 393 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: They have to make up for last year. I'm trying 394 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: to get their schedule in front of me. It's going 395 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: to take a super star year from him, because I 396 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: just I don't see Nebraska at the very very high 397 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: end winning eight games, and he will have to be okay, 398 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: I have their schedule in front of me. 399 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: They go to Colorado. 400 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't say this year in his question. 401 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: He just says people would take for him to win 402 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: the Heisman and that probably doesn't happen this year. But 403 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 2: moving forward, what is it take to win? What does 404 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: it take to get in the conversation. I don't know 405 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: if it's all that complicated Joel it it just needs 406 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: to happen. 407 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: Right he gets Ohio State early on in the season 408 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: this year if we are talking about this year, which 409 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: who knows. So he has to have another killer game 410 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 3: against the Buckeyes and to close like he has a 411 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: tougher November Purdue, Wisconsin, Maryland, Iowa and has to finish strong. 412 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: If if they are flirting with nine wins, I don't 413 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 3: think the context will be good enough. But that's going 414 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: to be crazy impressed from Nebraska and Adril Martinez. And 415 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: if it's a down year and he's putting on you know, 416 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: if he has thirty eight touchdowns to three interceptions at 417 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: a certain point. My favorite phrase it's going to be 418 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 3: impossible to ignore a player like that. 419 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: All Right, what will it take four. 420 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: Florida State to return to the top of the ACC consistently? 421 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? How do you feel about this? 422 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: Kendall Briles is going to have to be everything advertised 423 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: and that he's been these you know at Houston and 424 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: what he did at Baylor. 425 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: On the field. 426 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: I think they're going to I mean, the incoming class 427 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: is quite good. They're going to have to put together 428 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: top five classes for two. They're gonna have to put 429 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: together two and a half like top five classes, especially 430 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: along the lines, because they look very good at skill 431 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 3: positions right now. On offense, their incoming class has a 432 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: ton of promising defenders. But if we're talking about returning 433 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: to the top of the ACC, so we're matching and 434 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: getting past Clemson, we're talking about somehow surpassing the gold 435 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: standard right now nationally. So it's going to take huge classes, 436 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: and it's going to take retaining coaches. Taggart hitting on 437 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: this latest defensive coordinator higher. I it's going to take 438 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: more than I can see happening. But I can see 439 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: them returning to competing for the top of the ACC. 440 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Right It's it's gonna take all of those things that 441 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: you said, quarterback, recruiting, all of those things that you 442 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: just said, plus some sort of coaching turnover at Clemson. Yes, 443 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe it's reventable as leading. 444 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. 445 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: Clemson right now has so much momentum in the right direction. 446 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: It will I think require something to change that. His 447 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: question again says top of the acc consistently, you could 448 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: do that two years from now, even a year from 449 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: now with great recruiting, with a well coached game against 450 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: Clemson that you just happen to win by like three points. 451 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem too far fetched to me. Clemson could 452 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: be gettable, sure, but consistently, consistently you need some sort 453 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: of ce change right now. That's that's the only thing 454 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: that comes to mind, because they've got that program loaded 455 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: for bear for years to come. They've just done so 456 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: well on the recruiting front. They're not going to be 457 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: recruiting all duds at Clemson. They're too good for that 458 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 2: at this point. So I think you got to look 459 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: at coaching turnover. That could be Dabo Obama. Dabo Obama, Yeah, 460 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: Dabo Obama help, Daboa Obama helps or Dabbo to the 461 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: NFL or whatever helps uh and then yes, hiring somebody 462 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: at a coordinator spot that always gets the grown for 463 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: good reason, whether it's Andy Ludwig or Scott Leffler or 464 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: Ted Rue for any of those types where they're just 465 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: like keep getting jobs and keep putting out below average 466 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: units that you know Dabbo has some sort of personal 467 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: connection to. I just can't see that specific scenario happening. 468 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: He's just too good at hiring and too good at 469 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: iding coaching talent. But yeah, something. 470 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: Like that where I don't know, he just really really 471 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: whiffs on three crucial hires and something changes within that program. 472 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: But right now it's you're not surpassing Clemson the acc 473 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: outside of something dramatic. 474 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: In that same vein, Mark says, what will it take 475 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: for someone other than Clemson or Alabama to be ranked 476 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: number one at any point in this season? This is 477 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: another question that to me doesn't seem all that complicated. 478 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: Right. The rankings are stupid. 479 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: We've come to that, Kik, I've done a full line. 480 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: They're fine, but we were in some agreement here that 481 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: rankings to a large extent are kind of dumb. So really, 482 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: if Clemson loses a game, if Alabama also loses a game, 483 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: they would both have to lose. It stands to reason 484 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: that they would drop them because when a team loses, 485 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: they almost always drop. Someone else would bubble up and 486 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be long before Clemson or Alabama found their 487 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: way back to the top. But it would really require 488 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: both of them losing in somewhat close proximity throughout the 489 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: course of the year and for there to be a 490 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: team with a better record below them. 491 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: Well, we see fluctuations in September, right, We sees that 492 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: sometimes people overreact to result the time, all the time, 493 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: and so I could see I don't believe Ohio State 494 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: has anybody huge early on. I mean, I'll due respect 495 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: to Cincinnati and your bear Cat's deep dive since it's 496 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: Florida Atlantic, Cincinnati, Indiana, Miami of Ohio early on in 497 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: their non conference schedule. So Ohio State is probably not 498 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: going to beat anybody. But what if LSU goes into 499 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: Austin and beats Texas forty seven to fourteen, and they're 500 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: ranked number four or five in Week two, they just 501 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 3: completely obliterate Texas in Austin, Maybe. 502 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: That they just leap frog. 503 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: They leap frog a Clemson team who say struggled with 504 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: Texas A and M. So, yes, Clemson has a very 505 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: losable game in Week two. Alabama, I think they're fine 506 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: early on in terms of opponents that seem like a threat. 507 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: But what if Georgia is number three in the country 508 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: and undefeated Clemson and undefeated Alabama ahead of them, and 509 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: I think it's late September, you would probably know better 510 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: than I. Georgia just demolishes Notre Dame. They demolish a 511 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: big time consensus top seven to twelve team, and Georgia 512 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: beats them fifty five to ten. They're gonna get votes. 513 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna get votes. They're not gonna jump both though, No, 514 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: they could jump one of them. They could jump one 515 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: of them, but they're not jumping both. I still think 516 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: it takes well. Maybe in a scenario like that, let 517 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: me let me rephrase. I think if it's that flattening, 518 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: if it's if it's a situation where one of these 519 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: two teams has a loss and Georgia has a great 520 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: flattening like that, potentially there could be a jump up. 521 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: I still think we're just talking early September. But the 522 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: most likely way to. 523 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: Do it is both teams have a loss and someone 524 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: like Georgia just lurks. 525 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: Well, yes, I think the only way to jump one 526 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: of those teams without them losing is by a statement 527 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: win early on. If we're talking specific to early, let's 528 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: go you want to do South Carolina? Yeahs are South 529 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: Carolina next? Okay, so we have how does South Carolina 530 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: get to? This is from Andy? How what'll it take 531 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: for South Carolina to ascend to Florida levels? Which is 532 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: sort of a very vague and up for interpretation quality. 533 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: What does Florida levels mean? What does government mean to you? 534 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: What does Florida mean to you? 535 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: So? What does that? What does that mean? 536 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: That means like a threat, a significant threat to the 537 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: to the SEC East, but not a favorite. 538 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: I would assume. So the last time that. 539 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: I would say South Carolina was truly a threat in 540 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: the SEC, truly deeply a threat to like win. 541 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: The SEC, truly madly, deeply. You got to go back 542 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: to the Steve Spurrier days. 543 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: He told us not to set to bring up Steve Spurrier, 544 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, I apologize, It's okay. Steve Spurrier had three 545 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: straight seasons where he won eleven games, right, was that 546 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: was pretty good. They haven't quite gotten back to that. 547 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: They had that one nine win season with the Bowl 548 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: win and the outback ball under mush Champ. 549 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: I guess two years ago, but. 550 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, I think you can see you need to 551 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: start by consistently getting to nine wins. Yeah, that will help, 552 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: and that regular season build regular season wins, yes, thank you. 553 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: That will build momentum moving forward. The problem right now 554 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: for South Carolina is they've got to contend with both 555 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: Georgia and Florida in the SEC East and that makes 556 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: life really difficult. 557 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: So if we're talking specific to Florida, what we currently 558 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: believe about Florida as a significant threat to the SEC East, 559 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: South Carolina needs to probably and they've recruited well under 560 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: will Musham, but it's consistent. I want to say top 561 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: twenty classes if you're good, they've been twenty four to seven. 562 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: The problem is that's like ninth or eighth in the 563 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: SEC that there's just so many recruiting heavyweights ahead of them, 564 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: both in their division and their conference. So they need 565 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: to probably start recruiting on a Tennessee Auburn type level, 566 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: which are a couple of the teams just ahead of them. 567 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: So that's adding two, three, four or five more blue 568 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: chips to each class, which is tough because recruiting locally. 569 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: South Carolina has a good amount of talent. But that's 570 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: not a regional brand. I hate that word, but I'm 571 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: using it anyway. Like the other team, you know, competing 572 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: against Florida and Georgia, and you know, Tennessee is a 573 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: bigger name, Auburn's a bigger name, and Florida State and 574 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: obviously Clemson in their region. So they're going to need 575 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: to really get aggressive and however, you gotta do it. 576 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: You got to do it. And then they need to 577 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: lift their floor on the field. And last year they 578 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: take a really impressive step forward on offense. You know, 579 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: they give away the Florida game, Texas A and M 580 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: was within their grasp, but defensively they just took such 581 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: a huge step back that they can't be any worse 582 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: than average on either side of the ball, and on 583 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: special teams, they can't give things away because of being 584 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: just well, we can't stop the run for these three weeks. 585 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: They just can't happen. 586 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: If they're going to threaten the division, especially with now Florida, 587 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: presumably improving from where they were under Jim mcawain. So 588 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: they have to raise that floor, and they have to 589 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: they have to take another step forward and put together, 590 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: you know, because of a rough November means depth top 591 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: thirteen twelve classes, I've maybe even top fifteen classes, and 592 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: I could see them as being that threat because we 593 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: saw them against Georgia last year. Threat would not be 594 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: one of the words to describe South Carolina's twenty eighteen 595 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: game against the Dowgs. 596 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: What about Kirby smart deep fakes. 597 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 3: Kirby smart deep fakes. Yes, if we're going negative, if 598 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: we're going opoh, always really. 599 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: Strong misinformation campaign could help the game Cocks. Just throwing 600 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: that out there. 601 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: I could see Will Muschamp wanting to do the voice 602 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: himself though. 603 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: Ye, this is. 604 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: Definitely Kirby and not Will must Champ. Yeah, it's not 605 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: going to work. Let's do Yeah, I think it's possible. 606 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: It's just it's gonna be a lot. 607 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: Let's do a few more of these here, we got 608 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: so many good ones. How about Andrew Joe moorehead, your guy, 609 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: Joe Moorehead. Okay, he says, what will it take for 610 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: Joe Moorehead to have a big second season at Mississippi State. 611 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: How did you feel about year one under Joe Moorehead. 612 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: High ceiling, low floor. There were really impressive moments That 613 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: defense had such a high ceiling that that I've always 614 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: liked Bob Shoop. I know we had a rough time 615 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: at Tennessee, but going back to where what he did 616 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: at Penn State and what they look like up front 617 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Simmons and Montes sweating with Jonathan Abraham who 618 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: was great, uh, sort of playing center field for Mississippi State, 619 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: what they look like on defense had me convinced that 620 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: they're going to be a really tough out and they 621 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: should be. They should have a ceiling of nine probably 622 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: nine wins under Morehead. And so this season specifically, a 623 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: lot of variables replacing a lot on defense, especially up front. 624 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: I like their receivers a whole bunch. I think Kylon 625 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: Hill is one of the more underrated names at running 626 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: back nationally with how he played last year and some 627 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: of those bigger games for Mississippi State, Basically they need 628 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: to start four and oh this year. That includes Kentucky. 629 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: I believe in Starkville they need to split LSU at 630 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: home and they go there against A and M on 631 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: the road. They had a real rough time with LSU 632 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: last year, but under Dan Mullen, always competitive, won some loss, 633 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: some generally close split the road games Auburn, Tennessee both 634 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: on the road. 635 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: That's fine. I think that's totally respectable. 636 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: The need to beat Arkansas, Ole Miss and Abilene Christian, 637 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: all of this sounds realistic and all of that. If 638 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: that happens, if those splits and those wins at the 639 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: end happen, they go nine to three. Okay, I think 640 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: it's probably Tommy Stevens. Yes, that was gonna be my 641 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: point here. So before Tommy Stevens came onto the scene 642 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: and grad transferred away from State College and pick Starkville, 643 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: it seemed like it was going to be between Keyton Thompson, 644 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: who we saw a little bit last year when Nick 645 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: Fitzgerald was out, and Garrett Trader, who's a freshman. 646 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: That would seem to be. Yeah, that seemed to be 647 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback battle. 648 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: But now through Tommy Stevens in the mix, I don't 649 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: know if Tommy Stevens is going to be the guy 650 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: or not. Joe Morehead will make that decision. But I 651 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: do think it helps. 652 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: That would be a weird transfer. 653 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: If it was a transfer, wouldn't be the first time 654 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: that something like that's happened. I like the fact that 655 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: Tommy Stevens is familiar with the Joe Moorehead system because 656 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: last year points in the year for Mississippi State just 657 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: seemed like the offense was out of sync. So to 658 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 2: bring in a guy like Stevens who knows what Morehead 659 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: wants to do, He's got a lot of familiarity with it, 660 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: that certainly benefits them in the short term. I think 661 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: it's going to take someone Stevens to be the starter 662 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: to really have a good grasp with what more Head's 663 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: trying to do to give them a chance to have 664 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: that big season. 665 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: But do you think if he were good and he 666 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 3: had a grasp of that system, just at least big 667 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 3: picture wise, he would have kind of easily won the 668 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: Penn State job. I don't know what this is that 669 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: much experience and familiarity. Obviously it's shifted. 670 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: I don't know what the system looks like now. 671 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it'd be night and day. 672 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that way. 673 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: But keep in mind there's been a lot of turnover 674 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 2: with a personnel at Penn State. Yeah, on the offensive side, 675 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: so sure, you know they like Sean Clifford and state. 676 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: He's younger, Yeah, yeah, he's younger. He maybe he gives 677 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 2: them more upside with what they're trying to do. Stevens 678 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: saw an opportunity to go to a place where he's 679 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: familiar and took the opportunity. So I think it's win 680 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: win for Joe moorehead time will tell what it means 681 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: for Tommy Stevens. I think though his grasp of that 682 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: system could help Mississippi State if they want to try 683 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: and become, you know, a better entity in twenty nine ten, 684 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: if they want to have that quote unquote big year. 685 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: And here's the other thing that should be remembered about 686 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: Tommy Stevens and the Mississippi State offense, Nick Fitzgerald completing 687 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 3: pastes downfield against pretty good teams was ugly twenty eighteen, 688 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 3: and so the bar is very low right now that 689 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 3: even if Tommy Stevens is fine, even if he's Joe Burrow, 690 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: which is not supposed to be an insult, and I 691 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 3: know it's what it sounds like. That's great because there's 692 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: a lot at Mississippi State right now to be excited 693 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: about both from the coaching I know there's a little 694 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: bit of turnover on offense and the coaching staff. But 695 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: if he's fine, they're probably better than they were last 696 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: year with a good amount of defensive experience in the 697 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: back half of that defense. So yes, even if Sean 698 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: Clifford was clearly the guy at Penn State, Tommy Stevens 699 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: can very well be a fine guy. 700 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your definition of a big year? 701 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: They made it up to like fourteenth or fifteenth in 702 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: the AP pole if memory serves. Yeah, it was one 703 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: of the best, probably eight defenses in the country, finished 704 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: eight four with the regular season, really good defense. So 705 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: he was starting from a point where he had a 706 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: lot to work with. The offense was obviously a bit 707 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: of a work in progress. But now as we move 708 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: forward into twenty nineteen, a big quote unquote year is relative. 709 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent true. And if you need a reminder, 710 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: the worst passing team in the SEC was probably Mississippi 711 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: State last year. I mean it was Arkansas, but after that, 712 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: of teams that were competitive, it was Mississippi State, and 713 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: they were competitive in spite of where they were at 714 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: quarterback throwing the ball. So it's a good position to 715 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: be in. 716 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: MJ writes in with a very interesting question, what will 717 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: it take for Oklahoma to not make the Big Twelve Championship? 718 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: Let me this as well. Will it be enough if 719 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: the Jalen Hurts experiment explodes to keep Oklahoma out of 720 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: the Big Twelve Championship? So you're saying that he's just okay, 721 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: what if he shows up and he's just a total flop, 722 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: He's a disaster. 723 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: I don't think that's all. 724 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: He's a disaster. Oh no, I don't think that'll I 725 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: think that's highly unlikely. 726 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: But what happens if he shows up he's not good 727 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: in the offense, the whole experiment goes bust. Is that, 728 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: in and of itself enough to keep Oklahoma out of 729 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,479 Speaker 2: that game, knowing that they've got a ton of talent 730 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: behind him? 731 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 732 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: Because the Heisman winner was at times pretty bad against 733 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 3: Texas last year, threw a couple of bad picks early 734 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 3: on and they lose that game. The Heisman winner, Jalen 735 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 3: Hurts is not the throwing quarterback that Kyler Murray was, 736 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: and I don't anticipate he'll be particularly close. But yeah, 737 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 3: it's turnovers, and not that Jalen Hurts is a turnover 738 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 3: prone quarterback. But yes, I think I'm basically I think 739 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: we can break it down even easier than that. They 740 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 3: lose Bedlam in the shootout because the defense by then 741 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: is stressed and even though they're improved, that's the I 742 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: think it's the final game of the year this year. 743 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: So they lose Bedlam and then they lose red River. 744 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 3: That's a second loss, and things get weird against Iowa 745 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 3: State again or I mean the road stuff is actually 746 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 3: really nice. Bedlam's on the road, but otherwise it's Baylor 747 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 3: with an improving Baylor, a brand new Kansas State and 748 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: Kansas so road wise in the Big Twelve, it's a 749 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: pretty ideal year for Oklahoma. But they lose red River, 750 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 3: they lose Bedlam, and they lose some sort of toss 751 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: up to Iowa State or TCU. 752 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, two more of these dan 753 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: only only two more? Run along? 754 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: Man, we got a well, you agreed to do a 755 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 3: mega show tie. 756 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: What will cake for a team like Alabama, Penn State 757 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: or Clemson to where it alternate uniform for a game. 758 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Well, what qualifies as an alternate uniform, Dan. 759 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: I have breaking news here for Okay, our question asker, Okay, 760 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 2: Penn State is actually going to wear something they call 761 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 2: the Generations of Greatness Special Throwback uniform. 762 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh, on October the fifth. 763 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking it up now, which includes numbers on the helmets. Okay, 764 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: they did back in like the late fifties and so bold. 765 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. There are a few other 766 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: tweaks here and there. 767 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 3: I could see one of those schools if they were 768 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: honoring some kind of legend who passed away, and they 769 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 3: were saying, Okay, this person had such a great game 770 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: against Auburn that for the Iron Bowl, we're wearing this look. 771 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: Or this guy had such a good game against Michigan 772 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,959 Speaker 3: he just passed away, this legend, we're wearing this look 773 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: for this game to honor him instead of just a decal, 774 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: instead of just you know, putting his initials above the 775 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: Nike swoosh. I could see that it would have to 776 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 3: come together pretty quickly, or that person would have to 777 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 3: be honored months and months in advance, if it happened 778 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 3: over spring or something like that, for the following season. 779 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 3: I could see that, like what Michigan did, and horrifically 780 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 3: so with those the windowed uniforms, the windowed numbers, or 781 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 3: the giant M when they played it was the giant 782 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 3: M was under the lights. I believe I could see 783 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: a more subtle version of that for one of those schools. 784 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm not counting on it, but it could happen. 785 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: Dan, What would it take for the Big Ten to 786 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: kick out and or replace Rutgers. 787 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: It would have to be some sort of off field 788 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 3: scandal that they would use as an excuse. 789 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: Rutgers is of course, it's an official school of New 790 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: York City. 791 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: It's a Rutgers town for sure, and this place would 792 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 3: be shut down with anger. But it would be something 793 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 3: off field. I can't imagine that the Big Ten would 794 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: want to do that. 795 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: It would you know, what it would have to take. 796 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 3: It would have to take some sort of complete reorganization 797 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: of the posts eason so that you know, I don't 798 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: know when this has happened. It would have to be 799 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, another round of realignment when TV deals are 800 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 3: up or whatever, where there would have to be some 801 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 3: sort of complete rejiggering of the sport where we're saying, okay, 802 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: we're we're doing five super conferences or three super conferences 803 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 3: or four super conferences, And like, who's gonna be left 804 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: standing when the music stops? Well, friends, it's gonna be Rutgers. Well, 805 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: it's gonna be Rutgers and probably a couple other schools. 806 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: So it happens. 807 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 2: If Rutgers gets really good in basketball and is extended 808 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: an invite from the ACC, they become like the twenty 809 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: eighth team in the ACC? 810 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: Could they be coach? 811 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: Are they approachable candidate if they get excellent at basketball? 812 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: Probably not, because just not generating enough revenue. I'll go 813 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: to the Big East. 814 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: The Big East just added Yukon, Right, Yukon is no 815 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 3: longer an AAC school, I think football wise, I think 816 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: that's so it'll just be like that. What will Okay, 817 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 3: So what'll it take for Purdue to win the Big 818 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: Ten West? 819 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: So here's what I have. 820 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it takes as much as people might think. Okay, 821 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 2: what do you have? 822 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 3: So Iowa has a double body blow ahead of Purdue. 823 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 3: It's it's in Iowa City the Purdue game. I think 824 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 3: I have Michigan and Penn State leading up to it. 825 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 3: Northwestern definitely has a tough stretch and a new starting 826 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 3: quarterback in Hunter Johnson or Johnson. So Hunter Johnson leading 827 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: an offense that at times was disastrously bad, but they 828 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 3: did find Isaiah Bowser and then improve things. And then 829 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 3: Wisconsin also has a tough stretch leading up to the 830 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 3: Purdue game. It's like in Madison, but you know, is 831 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 3: Jack Cone good? Is it Graham Ertz whatever? Graham Mertz. 832 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 3: I believe it's a tough, tough name to blend into 833 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 3: each other. So yes, Wisconsin has the best running back. 834 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 3: It looks like in college football if everybody's putting nine 835 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 3: in the box and Wisconsin struggles again and they have 836 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 3: to deal with injury issues and offense of creativity issues, 837 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 3: producing a pretty good place the defense will it has 838 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 3: to be better than what it looked like the last 839 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 3: time we saw them against Auburn. I want to say, 840 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: Jared Stidham threw for like four hundred yards, possibly all 841 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: to Darius Slayton. 842 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 2: I was very very against the grain going with Purdue 843 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 2: in that game, and they got It's okay. 844 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's I mean, you're at Jared Stdam's now 845 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback, Darius Slayton's in the league. There's a 846 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 3: tough team when they're on. So I don't think anybody's 847 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 3: going to have an offense like that. 848 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: In the West. 849 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, they have potentially the best weapon in Rondelle 850 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: Moore outside of Jonathan Taylor touchdown. So yeah, they could 851 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 3: get lucky with some body blows and get better on 852 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 3: defense and have things work out. 853 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: Whether it's I think it's Cindelar is probably the guy 854 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: and have him improved. That's the time in. 855 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: The system, board, the Cindularity, the singularity, So yeah, I 856 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: don't think it's crazy. No, We've got another question here, Dylan, 857 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: what will it take for mel Tucker's first year in 858 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 2: Colorado considered a promising success? So if you take to 859 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: the side the great run that Colorado had maybe two 860 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 2: years ago, three years ago, I found Oh it's more 861 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, it's the year under my back and tire. Yeah, 862 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 2: it really has been since two thousand and three. 863 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, a bunch of great dbs. 864 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, since two thousand and three, we've only seen that 865 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,959 Speaker 2: one winning season for Colorado Buffalo. So to start, he's 866 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 2: got to get a young core of players assembled. You've 867 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: got to feel somewhat hopeful about the future of the program. 868 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: That might not happen until after his first season. In 869 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: the interim, you need to feel like the team plays hard. 870 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: You need to feel like they improve from start to finish. 871 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's more complicated than that. In the 872 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 2: short term, there's a lot of room to grow in 873 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve, a ton of room. So you got 874 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: to start so where. You got to establish your roots 875 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 2: by recruiting well, but you also need to establish a 876 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: culture by fielding a team that looks like it is 877 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: playing hard and hungry every single down. 878 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: What a way to live, live hard and hungry. 879 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 3: God, But that's it feels like you're doing sidework for 880 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 3: Mountain Dew, the new energy bar. I don't know what 881 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to say. Okay, their schedule's fine. The road 882 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: stuff is not the best. 883 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: I think they're at Oregon at Wazoo, but they have 884 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 2: Stanford and Washington at home and they miss who do 885 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: they miss from the north? I think they missed Cal 886 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: which is fine, and unfortunately they miss Oregon State, so 887 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 2: that would have been nice. But if they start three 888 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: and oh that include a win over Nebraska at home, 889 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: which they did it last year, they have If if 890 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 2: Leviska Chhanault is not the best receiver in the country. 891 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: It's Jerry Judy and it might still be Leaviska Chenault. Otherwise, 892 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: you start three and oh you go two and two 893 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 2: at home. So that's splitting USC, Stanford. 894 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: Washington, Arizona. 895 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: So say they beat I don't know, Stanford and Arizona 896 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 3: and then they just they basically have to win when 897 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 3: Steven monte excuse me, Stevie Montese is good. Last year, 898 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 3: they start out undefeated, Colorado fans get upset at us 899 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: for not respecting them, and then what do they lose 900 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 3: their final seven and he was really good against teams 901 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 3: that weren't all that good, and they still managed to 902 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 3: lose that Oregon State game in the Arizona game. So 903 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: they win those two games, they're making a bowl that's something, 904 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 3: and so make a bowl that's that would be considered successful. 905 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 3: They weren't bad at anything last year. They were bad 906 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 3: at not being better against bad teams. They were fine 907 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 3: on defense. They got healthier than where they were the 908 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 3: year before. They you know, Leviscus Channault's injury definitely hurt 909 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 3: them in terms of offensive momentum. But I think the 910 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 3: staff is fine. If defense is about effort, I think 911 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 3: melt Tucker's probably going to get a little more effort 912 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 3: out of this this team, and so maybe they finished 913 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 3: in the fifties or forties instead of the seventies and 914 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 3: they make a Bowl. I think six and six is 915 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 3: a wildly successful year for this Colorado team given the 916 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 3: sort of upheaval these past couple of years. 917 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: All Right, you get to pick out our final question 918 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: before we move on. 919 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 3: Okay, we already talked about the Big Ten West a 920 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 3: little bit. We talked about Jeff Brohm. What'll it take 921 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 3: for you to believe that Matt Campbell is staying in 922 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 3: ames long term? 923 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: Long term? 924 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 3: Okay, So that means in football ease, in college footballs 925 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 3: long term. As we do this in early July twenty 926 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 3: nineteen or five years, I was gonna say, if he's 927 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: if he is the coach of Iowa State in twenty 928 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 3: twenty two, right now, that feels long term. At the 929 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 3: end of the twenty twenty two season. So that's for 930 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: full season. I don't believe it. 931 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: So what course of actions will make you a believer? 932 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 2: I will be made a believer if they make him 933 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 2: a top five highest paid coach in college football. 934 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: Okay, do you think it's about the money for him? 935 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: Doesn't cost a lot from what I understand to live 936 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 3: healthy and hungry or what did you say, hard and hungry? 937 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 3: Hungry and hard in ames Iowa. 938 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's about the money, but the 939 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: money is there. 940 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pride thing. Money is a point 941 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 3: of pride. 942 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: It's right, it's the only one of the only ways 943 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: to show respect, unfortunately in the sport. So I think 944 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 2: that's got to be a component. But within five years 945 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 2: there are certainly a lot of jobs that could come open. 946 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 2: We've had this discussion about Matt Campbell before in the past. 947 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 2: I think there's a chance he could leave for the NFL. 948 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: That's a possibility when you're a coach of his magnitude, 949 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 2: of his caliber. At this point, he's going to be 950 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 2: building up his brand enough where the NFL might be 951 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: an attractive place for him. So it's not just college 952 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: football that I always say it has to contend with. 953 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't see it happening, But if it's gonna happen, 954 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna need to pay him handsily. 955 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 1: Sure, So. 956 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 3: If in the next three years, both Michigan schools, Notre Dame, 957 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 3: and Penn State all open, and they come and go. 958 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 3: In terms of Matt campbell interest or his interest whatever, 959 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 3: I'll be a pretty firm believer. Here's here's my sort 960 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 3: of my sub question that goes against a lot of 961 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 3: the logic and common sense of coaching hires and coaching 962 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 3: lives that we've seen, you know, since the dawn of 963 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: college football. 964 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: Basically, if he. 965 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 3: Ends up making I don't know whatever, four or five, 966 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 3: six million dollars, he keeps going to bowl games, he 967 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 3: you know, keeps recruiting well, developing quarterbacks, putting together exciting offenses, 968 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 3: developing guys and putting them in the NFL. Do you 969 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 3: think we will ever get to a point where guys 970 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 3: like Matt Campbell and Jeff Brahm, We've seen it with 971 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 3: some coordinators like Brent Venables at Clemson are just to themselves. 972 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 3: I like it here, family likes it here. I believe 973 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 3: Matt Campbell is mayor with a bunch of kids, three 974 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 3: or four kids, that you know what, I've got it good. 975 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't have the pressure i'd have elsewhere. I know 976 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 3: that these guys are crazy competitive and they want to win. 977 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 3: At the biggest places over the biggest places. And I 978 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 3: know that's what the fallacy is in all of what 979 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But do you think that there are people 980 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 3: other than Brent Venables out there who basically will say 981 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 3: to themselves, life's pretty good. Can win the Big twelve here. 982 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,959 Speaker 3: I'm making a lot of money. Family likes it here. 983 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: It's a fun it's fun to be at Iowa State 984 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: and beat Oklahoma. 985 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: Are there people out there like that? Sure? 986 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know if Matt Campbell's that guy. Yeah, 987 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: I think he is. I don't think Jeff brom is 988 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 2: that guy. Jeff Brohm had an opportunity to go to 989 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 2: Louisville and decided not to for one reason or another. 990 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: But Louisville's a probable upgrade over Purdue, but not a 991 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Louisville is definitely light years ahead. 992 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: And I understand the personal we have. 993 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 2: I don't think we've gotten to a point yet with 994 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: either of those guys where there have been really high 995 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 2: level programs that have come after them, And we probably 996 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 2: can't make that assessment right now. But until someone like 997 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 2: Matt Campbell turns down Notre Dame program like that, it's 998 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: tough to say. 999 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 3: There are some and this is a this is kind 1000 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 3: of a flawed example. Who's who's the star of ncis 1001 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 3: Mark Harmon? 1002 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: Does that sound right? Yeah? 1003 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 3: Who are the people on like CSI We're talking Mark 1004 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 3: Helgenberger that are on these long, long running shows. David Caruso, 1005 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 3: Well see David Cruso's goes against it. David Caruso left 1006 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 3: NYPD Blue after the first season because he thought he 1007 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: could be a movie star. He was the one who 1008 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: had the ambition. So what I'm saying is, are we 1009 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: going to have more Franz Dennis Franz than Caruso at 1010 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: any point? As it's a very volatile profession, I just 1011 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 3: don't think. 1012 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 2: So, it's not it's not where the coaching world is 1013 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 2: at right now. Well, I mean it's it's the coaching 1014 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 2: world is at. You go to one of these top places, 1015 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: if you don't win within three years, we fire you. 1016 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 2: There's a golden parachute at the end of that. Usually, 1017 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: so financially they're going to be in a good place. 1018 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 2: I just don't But what if they're happy and making money, 1019 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 2: what if they want to Fronzi? If they want to 1020 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 2: Fronzi by all means Franzi. Yeah, I just don't see 1021 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: it happening as a commonality. 1022 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 3: It's a flawed example because NYPD Blue was like a 1023 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 3: top five or ten TV show ratings wise on ABC, 1024 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 3: a huge one of the three huge networks at the time. 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Visit lightstream dot com 1070 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 2: slash solid for more information. 1071 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: Do it all right? Dan? Give me non college football? 1072 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: So do you want to? 1073 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 3: We got to We have a string of food questions 1074 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 3: because it is the fourth and people have food on 1075 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 3: their mind. Do you want to start with a string 1076 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 3: of food questions or do you want to conclude with them? 1077 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: People are going to their July fourth. 1078 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 2: Picnics, barbecues. I know people get upset about the Thursday 1079 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: or Friday, or Saturday or Sunday, I don't know, probably 1080 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: all weekend, long weekend. Let's start, but we got to 1081 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 2: go rapid fire. We got a lot of these questions. 1082 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, a bunch of them. Let's wrap 1083 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 2: it fire, let's do it. 1084 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 3: What'll it take for tater tot nachos to supplant the 1085 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 3: traditional tortilla chip nachos. 1086 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm protat tots, protat tots absolutely, but I'm more 1087 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 2: of a traditionalist when it comes to nachos. What will 1088 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 2: it take Probably a clever marketing campaign from some chain restaurant. 1089 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 3: I like tater tots, I like dipping tater tots. You 1090 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 3: get tater tot nachos, it turns into one giant mess 1091 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 3: of fried potato and gloppy toppings. I would say we 1092 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 3: need to turn the traditional shape of a like a 1093 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 3: McDonald's style hash brown, which you can you can pictures 1094 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 3: like the size of like a big belt buckle tie yep. 1095 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: Turn that into like a smaller surfboard shape. We dress 1096 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 3: each one of them individually with whatever charizo, cheese, onion, 1097 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 3: salce or whatever, and you get a much better vehicle 1098 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 3: for whatever toppings you're interested in. I'm totally pro the 1099 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 3: fried potato and especially a hash brown type mini surfboard 1100 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 3: as a nacho replacement vehicle. It needs to be crispy. 1101 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 3: I think that's one crispy, a deep golden brown. What 1102 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 3: food do you not like what wish. 1103 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: You did for me? 1104 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 2: It's sushi? Okay, I'm not pro sushi. It seems like 1105 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 2: everyone in the world is. 1106 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 1107 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 3: Have you had sushi outside of the Greater Allentown, Bethlehem 1108 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 3: Northampton area. 1109 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna it may be too strong for 1110 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 2: me to say that I don't like it, Okay, but 1111 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 2: it's just it's not something that I ever look at 1112 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 2: and say, oh, I have to have that. Like, I'll 1113 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 2: eat it if I have to, but generally it's not 1114 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 2: something I'm going to order. 1115 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 3: Are you open to the possibility that if you and 1116 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 3: solid wife Kate ended up in Osaka that you would 1117 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 3: be fully mind changed. 1118 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: When in Rome in Osaka? 1119 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure you try it, but are you open to like, 1120 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 3: oh wow, this is Yes, this is spectacularly good. 1121 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm I'm open to that. Yes, I 1122 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: wish I liked raw tomatoes. I just don't. 1123 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 3: I really wish that that umami natural MSG. You got 1124 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 3: the brusquetta, you have, salsa's you have. You know they 1125 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 3: add to burgers definitely, But I just, for whatever reason, 1126 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 3: rubs me the wrong way. 1127 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: All right? 1128 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 3: Next question, when hankering for a fish taco, what's your 1129 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 3: fish of choice? I don't like life is allergic to 1130 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 3: fish tacos. I like a white fish. I don't it 1131 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 3: can be blackened, grilled, fried, whatever. I want a non 1132 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 3: gloppy batter for my for my fried fish taco, and 1133 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 3: probably either a thick corn tortilla or flour, not a 1134 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 3: thin corn. It's got to stand up to a heavier, 1135 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 3: heavier protein like a fried fish would be. Okay, Yeah, 1136 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan best dessert item to bring to 1137 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 3: a pot luck style barbecue or cookout party. 1138 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: So when they say pot luck style, dam what is 1139 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: that means? 1140 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 3: Everybody brings a separate dish. Somebody's in charge of cooking 1141 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 3: the meat, and they're probably the host. But then, okay, 1142 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 3: why don't you bring chips, Why don't you bring fruit salad? 1143 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 3: Why don't you bring dessert? Why do you bring drinks? 1144 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 3: Kind of thing where the host is not responsible for everything? 1145 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I like a good strawberry shortcakes. 1146 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 3: I mean, let's be specific to summer, because I mean 1147 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 3: you are right now strawberry shortcake. 1148 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 2: I like strawberry shortcake. It's usually it's usually light enough 1149 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: that will. 1150 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: You make the shortcake though? Oh well, I mean in 1151 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: the past, I haven't. 1152 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: There's no saying that I couldn't, right, But if you've 1153 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 2: got to take something and you're maybe not in the 1154 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 2: mood to bake it, I think that's a good option. 1155 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 3: So what would you make if you were tasked with 1156 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 3: actually preparing something homemade? 1157 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: If it's for the July fourth holiday? I think it's 1158 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 2: got to be something cool. Yeah, and I mean that 1159 00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 2: literally got to be something cool. So by is there 1160 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 2: some sort of like. 1161 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: Ice cream dessert that we can You would make ice cream, 1162 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm not. 1163 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 2: Making it, but you can buy ice cream to assemble 1164 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: as part of a larger dessert item. 1165 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 3: I'd go with a berry crumble. They're really easy. You 1166 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 3: don't have to like make like a pie crust type thing. 1167 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 3: You just mash up a bunch of berries, or you 1168 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 3: can do peaches something like that, a fruit crumble, peaches 1169 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 3: or berries, and then the crumble is just generally like butter, flour, 1170 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 3: some some oats, sugar. That's what I tend to do. 1171 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 3: Can we just put it on top? 1172 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: Can we get rid of this question the same way 1173 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 2: we got rid of coach questions? Why every time this 1174 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: question comes in? I never have an answer for it. Well, 1175 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 2: you gotta start cooking, man, I do cook. You gotta 1176 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 2: start baking. 1177 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't go to enough picnics where I've got to 1178 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: do this thing. I never have an answer for it. 1179 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: You have to you have to have go to recipes 1180 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: for dessert, cookies, whatever. I don't know. 1181 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 3: Let's get you going, get that. It's science. Tw you 1182 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 3: love science. I'm done with this question, okay, Menophic. Next topic, 1183 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 3: best road trip car snacks. 1184 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: I gotta say combos here, Dan combos, Okay. Why you 1185 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: like the variety? I like the variety. 1186 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't like the ones that have the crazy spices 1187 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 2: on them, because if we're talking long car trip, the 1188 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,439 Speaker 2: crazy spices could have other plants for your stomach. 1189 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 3: Sensitive sensitive tom tum. 1190 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 2: Just the plain old fashioned combos gives you the nice 1191 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 2: variety of the pretzel. Get your carbs, get some of 1192 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 2: that cheese flavor in there. 1193 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: M m yeah, That's where I'm going with it. 1194 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 2: Give me some somehow altered pretzels, you know, seasonally, whether 1195 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: it's like a honey pretzel, whether it's some some sort 1196 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: of seasoned pretzel for savory and then sweet. I'll just 1197 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 2: if I can get a big old chilled bag like 1198 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 2: I would chill it the night before, put in the 1199 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,479 Speaker 2: freezer or the fridge of Reese's pieces, I'm pretty happy. Also, 1200 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 2: just a giant water yeah, some sort of giant water. 1201 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going with the I'm not going with some 1202 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 2: sort of juice because that'll make it pee quicker, more sugar, 1203 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, giant water. I have some sort of altered 1204 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 2: pretzel in Reese's Pieces, and I think you can probably 1205 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 2: get both in the same package. Now, next question, I 1206 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 2: think we're out of food questions. Which big relief. Wife 1207 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 2: and I just bought a house and we'll move in 1208 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 2: in September. It's a three bedroom with an open concept kitchen, dining, 1209 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 2: living room. Ooh, fancy my wife. My wife doesn't care 1210 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 2: about football. Should I A turn the office into my 1211 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: football viewing room complete with couch, whiskey cabinet, mini fridge, 1212 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 2: giant coffee table, or b dump that extra money into 1213 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 2: the actual living room to take advantage of the large 1214 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 2: entertaining space and watch games in there. He feels like 1215 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 2: a no brainer to me. 1216 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Be feels like it's probably the no brainer. 1217 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because football season is pretty finite. 1218 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Right, That's my point. If you dump the extra money 1219 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 2: into the living room and really make it into a 1220 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: cool place to view anything, it seems like you're killing 1221 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 2: two birds with one stone. 1222 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Mm hm oh yeah. Somebody asked about a good surround sound. 1223 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 3: I think what's the new Dolby? Is it at most Atmosphy? 1224 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 1225 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Do you have a surround sound movie recommendation? 1226 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 2: Uh? 1227 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 3: No, because you got you got all fancy set up there. 1228 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: No, I've got the Saunos soundbar and two Saunos play 1229 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 2: ones that I have synced up. 1230 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Are they behind the couch? 1231 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 2: They are not behind the couch. No, they're on either side. 1232 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: They're in either corner of my living room as you 1233 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: look towards the television. Okay, that's been my way of 1234 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 2: achieving some kind of surround sound. I know it's not 1235 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 2: as deluxe as you're doing one eighty. Yeah, but that's 1236 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 2: where I'm at right now. I don't have any recommendations 1237 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 2: for it, is the same movies anything? 1238 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 1239 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 2: I will say that would be good to watch on it. 1240 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 2: The Our Planet series on Netflix is pretty damn cool. 1241 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Question surround sound? Yeah. 1242 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 3: The best thing I think I've watched in surround sound 1243 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 3: might be Band of Brothers the HBO. I could see 1244 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 3: that it was terrific and surround really. I mean, it's 1245 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 3: already an incredible mini series, but with that sort of experience, 1246 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 3: it was it was something else. When on a business 1247 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 3: trip and sharing a room with a colleague, do colleague, 1248 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 3: do you a try to go to sleep as early 1249 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 3: as possible, even to the point of faking sleep. B 1250 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 3: stay up and have the good night conversation with someone 1251 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 3: you don't really know. I've had that conversation. I know 1252 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 3: exactly what he's talking about. Or see, stay at the 1253 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 3: bar drinking much later than you normally would to make 1254 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 3: sure your roommate will be asleep by the time you return. 1255 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: What kind of business trip is it where they're making 1256 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: you room with a colleague? 1257 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 2: Oh, Ty, you've never worked for a startup? Have you 1258 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 2: rooming with a colleague? 1259 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely? 1260 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 3: Wow, Ti, technically our live shows are business trips and 1261 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 3: we've roomed together. This is also true. Okay, like we 1262 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 3: know each other quite well. He's sort of saying he 1263 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 3: doesn't know this person. 1264 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 1265 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 2: All right, so you've clearly been in this situation. Dan, 1266 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Do you have a recommendation here? 1267 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Go to sleep? Yeah, go to sleep. 1268 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 3: Well, now, I don't sleep nearly as much as i'd 1269 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 3: like to because of the solid baby, so I would 1270 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 3: take every opportunity and use it as an excuse. Hey, 1271 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to turn in early. I don't get a 1272 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 3: full night's sleep basically, ever, so I'm doing that, so 1273 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 3: use that as an excuse. I would also say, as 1274 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: a backup, maybe try and get to know the person 1275 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 3: at the bar instead of when the lights go out, 1276 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 3: so at least you are having a conversation. Maybe they 1277 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 3: become a new friend. 1278 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1279 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. Cashing your chips as early 1280 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 2: as you can. Yeah, at all costs, avoid the awkward conversation. 1281 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 3: Have the good night conversation at seven pm the hotel bar, 1282 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 3: over dinner, whatever. Next question will be, Okay, this will 1283 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 3: be our final one? Is this is really steering into you? 1284 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 3: I would love to hear tis thoughts on the US 1285 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 3: men's national team. Oh boy, super appropriate now that the 1286 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 3: women are the story and have like the best selling 1287 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 3: jersey ever very Nike. 1288 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: When is the Championship Championships on Sunday? 1289 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 2: For both the Sunday who play in the Gold Cup 1290 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 2: presumably provided a win tonight, they'll be in the Gold 1291 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Cup final against Mexico. 1292 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Okay, and the women who play I believe earlier in 1293 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: the day over in France. How is the game? 1294 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 3: Last week in Philadelphia? You watched the US team take 1295 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 3: on Kurisou. 1296 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: That's right? 1297 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 3: Is it ridiculous? How expensive tickets are? Are the current 1298 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 3: players good enough? Songs? Pulisic and maybe a handful of others. 1299 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 3: Is the system bear Halter, Burholter, Yeah, Burhlter is a system. 1300 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 3: Bur Halter is trying to install working, going to work. 1301 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Wow, this is a loaded question. 1302 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 3: Is the us WNT the best American thing we currently have? 1303 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: This is a loaded follow a loaded, loaded question from 1304 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 1: top to bottom. Okay, what's your current state of the USMNT. 1305 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Well, so here's my thing with soccer. Okay, and I've 1306 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: said this before. I did not play soccer at any 1307 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: point in my life. 1308 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm terrible. 1309 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 2: I learned pretty much everything I know from playing the 1310 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 2: FIFA video game and getting interested in international and professional 1311 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 2: soccer with that as a starting point, and then reading 1312 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 2: and researching and learning about it from that point forward. 1313 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 2: I believe Will Leech once referred to this as hipster patriotism, 1314 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's about right, at least for me. 1315 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm very into it. I follow it as closely as anybody. 1316 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 2: I can't speak much to the tactical elements of the 1317 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: international soccer scene. I'm just not knowledgeable with that, but 1318 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: it does seem like what I saw on Sunday evening 1319 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia was a very lousy, uninspired effort. Whoa by 1320 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 2: the US team, especially in the second half, did not 1321 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 2: look good. 1322 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: They were lucky to. 1323 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Escape that game against Cursow as of one nil, one nil, Yeah, 1324 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 2: first goal early in the game. Header from Weston McKinney. 1325 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm excited about a lot of the young players that 1326 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 2: the United States has not the least that is Christian Polissic, 1327 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 2: who is a native Pennsylvanian here. But there are plenty 1328 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: of young guns that I think could be really good 1329 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 2: by the time the next World Cup rolls around. But 1330 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 2: at least in the short term, they need to turn 1331 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 2: in more inspired efforts for me to feel good about 1332 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 2: what Craig Berhalter, the new coach, is trying to install 1333 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 2: on the team, because thus far it hasn't been all 1334 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 2: that promising. 1335 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 3: Do you ever find yourself involuntarily moving your thumbs like 1336 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 3: you're holding a PS four controller while. 1337 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 2: You watch the US? Okay, no, I've currently quit FIFA again. 1338 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 2: I know, oh you quit again. I was back into 1339 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 2: it for a while, but I've since quit again. I 1340 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 2: bumped the difficulty up. I'm just not good at it. 1341 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 3: Can we bring the show full circle at our conclusive 1342 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 3: at our conclusion time. Yes, I'm pretty bullish on Cincinnati 1343 01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 3: this year. Ah, I'm pretty bullish. I know they go 1344 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 3: to Houston its first year, Hulego trying to retool a 1345 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 3: pretty bad defense of the Cougars. They get UCF with 1346 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 3: your guy, your notre Dame QB. They get Yeah with Wimbush, 1347 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 3: they finished out. You know, Temple could be tricky. I 1348 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 3: know they have a new coach. I'm just I like 1349 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 3: Mikey Warren, I like Desmond Ritter. I like the back 1350 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 3: half of their defense. I like how much better they 1351 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 3: got going from twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. That I 1352 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 3: can't help but feel very good about Cincinnati going against 1353 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 3: an American schedule with a lot of questions Yukon is 1354 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 3: going to be terrible, I'm not. I don't feel particularly 1355 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 3: great about South Florida again, Temple first year coach, Memphis, 1356 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 3: they get Brady White's ninth year whatever however long he's 1357 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 3: been eligible. I'm it's a good year for Cincinnati to 1358 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,519 Speaker 3: have a lot in place, even traveling to Columbus to 1359 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 3: play Ohio state early on, and I think you is 1360 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 3: going to look a lot better than they did last year, 1361 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 3: in which you which sincey snuck out a win to 1362 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,799 Speaker 3: open the season, I think they're still going to threaten 1363 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 3: double digit wins and if things break right, be a 1364 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 3: top twenty five team. 1365 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 1366 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,719 Speaker 2: Okay, how about that good way to bring things full circle. 1367 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 2: So again, thank you to everyone out there who wrote in. 1368 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 2: Soliverble at gmail, dot com, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, all the 1369 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 2: usual hotspots. 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In the meantime, thanks as 1389 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 2: always for downloading. Enjoy the rest of your week, all 1390 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 2: your weekend. 1391 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: In the meantime, say summer peace.